We are trying to add some more states. I get a lot of calls from Georgie it’s crazy we are in texas. We have banks that will go as low as 500 credit score though you can try :). Www.kgmowers.com.
Nice video man👍 I agree with everything you said-i’ve been using Scag for my small landscaping business since 1995-i’d rather stand than sit-I have a turf tiger2 and let the other guy use it-the agility and visibility are so fantastic on the v- ride2 -it’s like riding an ATV -it makes mowing fun again✌️🇺🇸
My 52” has a 25 Kohler and it’s minty-pushes mountains of leaves like a bulldozer with a leaf plow in the fall 🍁 I could see where the 37 HP would come in handy if you were bagging etc-that engine is a beast- I have it on my windstorm👍
Serious Fall cleanups in New England 🍁 windstorm was a game changer- it’s like having 6 guys with big backpacks-but nobody’s whining😜 i’ve got a Scag truck loader as well, you probably don’t sell to many of those I’m guessing
It's crazy the stand on market just shot up this season in oklahoma. Nothing like insane crazy but no one had any of them and now out of no where all the dealers have them and you see them more often than not. Might but a hustler 34 in for the back of yards this month or right before next season starts.
We’ve never really sold any until 2 years ago. They are starting to take off with some of the $7k and less models coming out now. Very handy to have a small one for sure!!
Also, please place priority on suspension systems after cut quality. Obviously reliability is a thing, but, it's assumed at the price levels of commercial mowers. I'd like to see the suspension of Bad Boy in action and a good explanation of how it - and others - work to help fatigue.
I have the 36 inch bad boy revolt there's a lot of things that I don't like about it and I would not buy another one the reasons are it's not that comfortable it cuts lower when you're going reverse I replace the spindle bearings recently with 244 hours and I caught hell trying to get one off of the pulley and the deck catches the sidewalks are uneven ground when you're coming off of the yard very easily they should have put an anti scalp wheel on this thing I'm probably going to sell it within the next couple days and go buy a hustler Surfer Pro
Great review on the standers Kevin, I'm in the market for a 48"-54" deck. I've looked at the V-Ride, Bad Boy and Ferris. All are nice machines but I'm wondering if the pumps and wheel motors in the Scag will provide better longevity versus the integrated transmissions. I'm a home owner cutting 1.5 acres and want a machine that will out last me. The only shortcoming I see/feel with the Scag is the foot platform feels like my toes are pointed down, but I believe relocating the pucks further back under the platform may resolve the issue. I'm 6'-2" and 280 lbs. and am surprised that I don't flatten the platform to a horizontal position. The Ferris Z2/Z3 and Bad Boy Revolt feel flat when I stand on their platforms. Thanks for all the time and effort you put forth, God Bless you and yours.
John - the integrated transaxles are rated for 1500hr life while separate pump and wheel motors are rated at 2000 hours. On a 52/54” mower any FX or Vanguard engine is rated for 2000 hours and a FS or FT Kawasaki are closer to 1500hr rating. Based on your 1.5ac you fall into the “average homeowner” type use, which will be about 50hr/yr. The honest answer here (from a dealer) is… buy the mower you like best from the dealer you like best whom you feel like will support you. Any stander based on your usage is a 30-40 year mower and you’ll never hit the lifecycle of any component. Statistically you’ll get rid of the mower due to age in years and parts becoming obsolete at some point before the mower actually ever wears out.
Thank you Michael, I very much appreciate the insight. I currently have a 1996 Simplicity Broadmoor with a 14 H.P. Vanguard. The mower has been stellar, I just replaced all 4 tires 2 years ago and still have the original spindles on the deck. It's getting tired and the deck is starting to rust through. The standers are very appealing to me and I've been considering one for the last 2 years. Your information has shed new light on my outlook. I want to buy one mower for the rest of my life, and may be moving to a larger property within the next 3 years (optimally 50 acres or more with 3 acre lawn). With that being said I know my current lawn doesn't require a commercial machine, but I'd like to be prepared should my plans come to fruition. Looking at the makes I mentioned in my original entry and looking at the variables it seems to me that the motor, transmissions and deck build (thicknesd) are the major components. The Bad Boy Revolt seems to be the best bang for the buck at least for my use. I do have a full service dealer within 30 minutes of my home. The Kawasaki FX carburetorated motor is also plenty good for my purpose? The deck thickness is another positive trait along with the cut quality from what I can tell. Thanks for your comment and insight! 👍🏼
The surfer pro 34” is amazingly a good mower. I have some backyards that have 39” gates and it’s perfect. It goes about 6-7 mph. Doesn’t need to go any faster due to the size. The only thing is you have to be careful when putting in fuel due to where the cap is at.
@@kgmowers my dealer just happen to have one in and I had to snag it for the 4900.00 dollar price tag and on top of that I got a 200.00 military discount.
I bought mine, it fell off the trailer, insurance wouldn’t pay for it, bad boy heard about it and fixed my mower in 2007. It’s been a wild ride with them since then 🔥🔥
@@FOMHLMAO brake locked strap on the back and one on the front. I had a bagger system and it had a big weight on the front. As it moved up and down the edge of the weight ended up cutting the strap, then the back strap helped to pull it back. It was crazy I was doing about 80mph and it looked like a saw blade rolling down the road behind me 🙈🙈
The hustler xd or xdx raptor would be ok for you. On the surfer pro I’m afraid it would take you too long it has the transmissions of the dash xd. I would get something faster
Where are bad boy mowers made? And where do they source their steel. I’m looking for my first commercial mower. And I’m looking at scag hands down because they’re sourced and made in America. As far as I’ve found through my research.
I have 250 to bad-boy standards and I'm beyond impressed with them when I started my mowing company I had two bad boy lightnings and their absolute 🗑️ bad boys really step their game up on cut quality I've never ever had an issue with quality on those lightning serious I just cut like s*** those bad boys standards I have I'll put up against the skag anyday cut wise and reliability wise the only thing I don't like about the bad boy is the deck lift
Here’s my situation, I don’t have much yard, total of 3/4 an acre but I have a huge hill, enough that it will pull the front wheels on zero turn and I can’t go down the hill because it makes it smoke really bad. Do you think a stand on would be better?
I would highly recommend the stander. U can step off of it when it gets hairy. Best thing I’ve found to mow my yard. No hills but about the same size yard.
@@Bajaheat the bad boy 36 revolt is my favorite for my yard. If you’ll search that mower and my own yard on Facebook it should pull up pics I took of my personal yard being mowed with it
We have snap is no credit up to 5k and then we have a couple of banks now that will consider as low as 500 credit score. Hit me up I’ll shoot you some apps :)
@@kgmowers we are a Cub cadet fan he is using a Troy-Bilt mustang 42-inch right now had it for 4 years it is it 9:00 hrs and not had a problem out of it but he wants to grow so we are going to need a bigger mower
The way you work with people with no credit you are going to crush it and put every other business lawn mower that sells mowers down there you will be on top and sales
Man they are one of the hottest things around here. I think people buy them then stack on 20 to 30 hours a week on them and realize they are only designed for an hour a week. Then sell and get the $9k 32 Scag Vride or something more equivalent. One hour a week it’s a perfect tool for the job.
@@kgmowers I was going to trade my 36” stand on for a 48” hustler, but realized something was off when I saw numerous postings. My gut feeling told me to look elsewhere
Most of them yes. There is a few that will have to squeeze through. Most 36” are designed to be exactly 36. The 34 will of course go through all 36s withought “squeezing”
I hope Bad Boy puts Scag out of business. Scag relies on their past reputation instead of innovation. They can go the way of the Do-do for all I care. Along with eXmark...
Don't sell any 36 Scag standers they will be back the next day wanting their money back l bought one just a terrible cut and it's too long it handles like a barge that cost me 2000 dollars bad boy 36 looks great take care my friend 😁
That is your difference between Scag then every other manufacturer they cut quality stock right off the showroom floor also the way they were built that is why Scag is proud of their money
Commercially made pricing is a bit pricy. Only the most successful lawn care businesses can't afford this kind of overhead. They are to expensive for me for sure. Just because is a taxas write off if not more money in my pocket. I would have to max out my credit card to buy one or get a bank loan. Thats like buying a car.
I was mowing an acre with a push mower. It was horrible. We lived in a 25k house and was just barely getting by. I had a new dodge v6 single cab stripped down I had bought for $10900 I was driving. My wife had woke up one morning and said “you have good credit, just go buy a mower today, get the neighbor to let you mow the yard. Make sure you get enough to make the payment, and we have a free mower.” I was excited I loved being released to get something. I went to John Deere and eye balled the $3999 ZTR. The manager came out and knew me. He asked what I was gonna mow. I told him an acre, and maybe another acre or 2 mowing my neighbors yard. He explained these mowers were made for half acre very smooth yard and I would tear it up in the country. He showed me a green deck 757 and explained this is what I need to buy. I asked how much and he said $7500. I made sure I was hearing right. From 4K to 8k I was tearing up a mower mowing a few acres. I told him no offense, but If I was gonna spend that much i was going to get a mower I saw people using on the trailer. He got offended and said “what’s that”. I said a grasshopper, and he said “I don’t blame you that’s what we all own up here, we would never buy these”. My journey led me to ask our largest lawn care guy in the area which one to buy. He said his I would have it for life. He didn’t even know how much it was he said he never pays attention. I came home with a $13k grasshopper 722d kubota diesel mower. It was almost $400 a month. My first job was a cemetery mowing on Saturday when I was off it was $750 a week. I ended up clearing over 100k on that mower and quit my job working around 3 to 4 days a week. Don’t ever think anything like this is out of reach, all it takes is a little thinking. I have a Friend that bought a mcleran it was his dream car, but he didn’t make near enough money. He simply rents it out sometimes, and he has a free super car he never pays for. I never paid a cent on that 13k lawn mower, other people did. And my acre yard was a blast to mow with that beast over a stupid push mower. If banks are willing to hand people free stuff still I would grab all you can while they are being stupid. There will be a day we won’t be able to just get free stuff anymore. I will say it like the salesman at the dealership said it. “If you can’t go out and make $300 a month mowing someone’s yard to make this payment, there has to be something wrong with you.”
Idk they are my best seller by far. Definitely worth taking a look at. One guy from Houston today was so happy he drove here and drove and tested the bad boy side by side with the brand he was almost buying because it was waay better than he thought
Trying to decide between the Revolt and the V Ride!! Have just started looking into the BadBoy Mowers.
This is exactly what I need!! The price isn’t as high as I was expecting
My friend Niki Patterson Evans was an awesome Rep for BadBoy! It’s a great mower no matter what BadBoy you get!
You do a great job on your videos. Thanks.
Rent to own is a great option especially for Solo Operators just beginning! Rent to own Mowers needs to come to Georgia!
We are trying to add some more states. I get a lot of calls from Georgie it’s crazy we are in texas. We have banks that will go as low as 500 credit score though you can try :). Www.kgmowers.com.
@@kgmowers Thank you! I will keep checking to see if you add Georgia!
Nice video man👍
I agree with everything you said-i’ve been using Scag for my small landscaping business since 1995-i’d rather stand than sit-I have a turf tiger2 and let the other guy use it-the agility and visibility are so fantastic on the v- ride2 -it’s like riding an ATV -it makes mowing fun again✌️🇺🇸
52” 37hp efi vanguard Vride for the win 🥇
My 52” has a 25 Kohler and it’s minty-pushes mountains of leaves like a bulldozer with a leaf plow in the fall 🍁 I could see where the 37 HP would come in handy if you were bagging etc-that engine is a beast- I have it on my windstorm👍
@@srv3111 I wish people would get the windstorm here they are amazing. I’ve never sold one 🙈
Serious Fall cleanups in New England 🍁 windstorm was a game changer- it’s like having 6 guys with big backpacks-but nobody’s whining😜 i’ve got a Scag truck loader as well, you probably don’t sell to many of those I’m guessing
@@srv3111 never yet 🙈😢
It's crazy the stand on market just shot up this season in oklahoma. Nothing like insane crazy but no one had any of them and now out of no where all the dealers have them and you see them more often than not. Might but a hustler 34 in for the back of yards this month or right before next season starts.
We’ve never really sold any until 2 years ago. They are starting to take off with some of the $7k and less models coming out now. Very handy to have a small one for sure!!
Also, please place priority on suspension systems after cut quality. Obviously reliability is a thing, but, it's assumed at the price levels of commercial mowers.
I'd like to see the suspension of Bad Boy in action and a good explanation of how it - and others - work to help fatigue.
It’s absolutely amazing and I’m spoiled now to the rogue. I hate all other mowers now 🙈.
Beautiful machines 💯
Great information 🎉
I have the 36 inch bad boy revolt there's a lot of things that I don't like about it and I would not buy another one the reasons are it's not that comfortable it cuts lower when you're going reverse I replace the spindle bearings recently with 244 hours and I caught hell trying to get one off of the pulley and the deck catches the sidewalks are uneven ground when you're coming off of the yard very easily they should have put an anti scalp wheel on this thing I'm probably going to sell it within the next couple days and go buy a hustler Surfer Pro
I love mine I have 3/4 acre yard. I really don’t like the other 36s
Sad the Grasshopper 52" stand -on is not in. I have read really good things about it.
Great review on the standers Kevin, I'm in the market for a 48"-54" deck. I've looked at the V-Ride, Bad Boy and Ferris. All are nice machines but I'm wondering if the pumps and wheel motors in the Scag will provide better longevity versus the integrated transmissions. I'm a home owner cutting 1.5 acres and want a machine that will out last me. The only shortcoming I see/feel with the Scag is the foot platform feels like my toes are pointed down, but I believe relocating the pucks further back under the platform may resolve the issue. I'm 6'-2" and 280 lbs. and am surprised that I don't flatten the platform to a horizontal position. The Ferris Z2/Z3 and Bad Boy Revolt feel flat when I stand on their platforms. Thanks for all the time and effort you put forth, God Bless you and yours.
John - the integrated transaxles are rated for 1500hr life while separate pump and wheel motors are rated at 2000 hours. On a 52/54” mower any FX or Vanguard engine is rated for 2000 hours and a FS or FT Kawasaki are closer to 1500hr rating. Based on your 1.5ac you fall into the “average homeowner” type use, which will be about 50hr/yr.
The honest answer here (from a dealer) is… buy the mower you like best from the dealer you like best whom you feel like will support you. Any stander based on your usage is a 30-40 year mower and you’ll never hit the lifecycle of any component. Statistically you’ll get rid of the mower due to age in years and parts becoming obsolete at some point before the mower actually ever wears out.
Thank you Michael, I very much appreciate the insight. I currently have a 1996 Simplicity Broadmoor with a 14 H.P. Vanguard. The mower has been stellar, I just replaced all 4 tires 2 years ago and still have the original spindles on the deck. It's getting tired and the deck is starting to rust through. The standers are very appealing to me and I've been considering one for the last 2 years. Your information has shed new light on my outlook. I want to buy one mower for the rest of my life, and may be moving to a larger property within the next 3 years (optimally 50 acres or more with 3 acre lawn). With that being said I know my current lawn doesn't require a commercial machine, but I'd like to be prepared should my plans come to fruition. Looking at the makes I mentioned in my original entry and looking at the variables it seems to me that the motor, transmissions and deck build (thicknesd) are the major components. The Bad Boy Revolt seems to be the best bang for the buck at least for my use. I do have a full service dealer within 30 minutes of my home. The Kawasaki FX carburetorated motor is also plenty good for my purpose? The deck thickness is another positive trait along with the cut quality from what I can tell. Thanks for your comment and insight! 👍🏼
Nice Kevin wish we had a Bad Boy dealer in Florida Tampa area my buddy Joe Santangalo is the Rep in Ohio take care my friend 😊
My friend Derek Campbell is putting new dealers all over Florida. You should have some pretty close to you by now
Thanks Kevin God bless have a great year
Any tampa area dealers yet? I check bad boy site and find dealers but then i check the dealer website and no bad boy mowers to be seen. Weird
The surfer pro 34” is amazingly a good mower. I have some backyards that have 39” gates and it’s perfect. It goes about 6-7 mph. Doesn’t need to go any faster due to the size. The only thing is you have to be careful when putting in fuel due to where the cap is at.
Ty for sharing! I haven’t heard from anyone on these at all
@@kgmowers my dealer just happen to have one in and I had to snag it for the 4900.00 dollar price tag and on top of that I got a 200.00 military discount.
I have a BadBoy zero turn 30 HP. I LOVE MY BADBOY!
I bought mine, it fell off the trailer, insurance wouldn’t pay for it, bad boy heard about it and fixed my mower in 2007. It’s been a wild ride with them since then 🔥🔥
@@kgmowers you should have locked the brake and TIED IT DOWN! You can’t haul equipment without tying it down, chains and straps.
@@FOMHLMAO brake locked strap on the back and one on the front. I had a bagger system and it had a big weight on the front. As it moved up and down the edge of the weight ended up cutting the strap, then the back strap helped to pull it back. It was crazy I was doing about 80mph and it looked like a saw blade rolling down the road behind me 🙈🙈
Great video
I mow 2 acres once a week at my house. Alot of open and stuff to mow around. Would the Hustler handle this reliably?
The hustler xd or xdx raptor would be ok for you. On the surfer pro I’m afraid it would take you too long it has the transmissions of the dash xd. I would get something faster
How much is it to toil change what do the whole thing like the oil filter air box do that
I want to know who makes the string trimmer mounted on the Hustler rider parked next to the Surfer! Would it work on a 48" Scag Hero deck?
Yes I think it works on almost any mower that has enough room on the deck. Weedwolf.
Where are bad boy mowers made? And where do they source their steel. I’m looking for my first commercial mower. And I’m looking at scag hands down because they’re sourced and made in America. As far as I’ve found through my research.
Batesville, ar. Last I heard bad boy have their own steel setup installed, but not sure if they are doing their own metal yet.
Thank you very much we have one and we want a second one how much is your stand up lawn
$4949 to $13k or so. Until you jump to the 88” hustler it’s higher of course.
Okay
I have 250 to bad-boy standards and I'm beyond impressed with them when I started my mowing company I had two bad boy lightnings and their absolute 🗑️ bad boys really step their game up on cut quality I've never ever had an issue with quality on those lightning serious I just cut like s*** those bad boys standards I have I'll put up against the skag anyday cut wise and reliability wise the only thing I don't like about the bad boy is the deck lift
Can you please make more side by side videos?
I usually get heavier on those towards the end of spring.
Can you ship the push mowers to us if you buy one
Here’s my situation, I don’t have much yard, total of 3/4 an acre but I have a huge hill, enough that it will pull the front wheels on zero turn and I can’t go down the hill because it makes it smoke really bad. Do you think a stand on would be better?
I would highly recommend the stander. U can step off of it when it gets hairy. Best thing I’ve found to mow my yard. No hills but about the same size yard.
@@kgmowers which stander would you recommend? I’m not sure if I need a full on commercial unit but I also don’t want to buy junk. Buy once cry once
@@Bajaheat the bad boy 36 revolt is my favorite for my yard. If you’ll search that mower and my own yard on Facebook it should pull up pics I took of my personal yard being mowed with it
@@kgmowers what do you have the 54” revolt with evo engine priced at?
@@Bajaheat right under 9k cash plus tax
Nice ❤❤
I wish you would do Tennessee on the rent-to-own
We have snap is no credit up to 5k and then we have a couple of banks now that will consider as low as 500 credit score. Hit me up I’ll shoot you some apps :)
@@kgmowers we are a Cub cadet fan he is using a Troy-Bilt mustang 42-inch right now had it for 4 years it is it 9:00 hrs and not had a problem out of it but he wants to grow so we are going to need a bigger mower
@@kgmowers he really liked the 52 in Stihl you advertised the other day
We really like that Stihl 152
The way you work with people with no credit you are going to crush it and put every other business lawn mower that sells mowers down there you will be on top and sales
Skag is 🔥
Where is your shop at
Very beutifull
I see alot of people selling the surfer pro with low hours. I’m wondering what they don’t like about it
Man they are one of the hottest things around here. I think people buy them then stack on 20 to 30 hours a week on them and realize they are only designed for an hour a week. Then sell and get the $9k 32 Scag Vride or something more equivalent. One hour a week it’s a perfect tool for the job.
@@kgmowers I was going to trade my 36” stand on for a 48” hustler, but realized something was off when I saw numerous postings. My gut feeling told me to look elsewhere
@@thatonegirlazu9847 trade it for a Super S 48” Hustler stand on and your getting an army tank
does the 36 fit between a 3 foot gate?
Most of them yes. There is a few that will have to squeeze through. Most 36” are designed to be exactly 36. The 34 will of course go through all 36s withought “squeezing”
I hope Bad Boy puts Scag out of business.
Scag relies on their past reputation instead of innovation.
They can go the way of the Do-do for all I care. Along with eXmark...
Can you get a Cub cadet pro z 600 with a 54-in deck
We don’t do cub cadet sorry :(.
Don't sell any 36 Scag standers they will be back the next day wanting their money back l bought one just a terrible cut and it's too long it handles like a barge that cost me 2000 dollars bad boy 36 looks great take care my friend 😁
Ain't no scag costing 2000 dollars bud...sorry.
@@Browns4life l lost 2000 trading it back in
How much is the stand-on lawn mower
I said all the prices in the video. You can check out www.kgmowers.com for prices
Info on your store please
K and g mowers in Paris, tx
Where are you located?
623 n main st Paris Tx 75460
Where is shoe place at
623 n main Paris, tx
That is your difference between Scag then every other manufacturer they cut quality stock right off the showroom floor also the way they were built that is why Scag is proud of their money
Commercially made pricing is a bit pricy. Only the most successful lawn care businesses can't afford this kind of overhead. They are to expensive for me for sure. Just because is a taxas write off if not more money in my pocket. I would have to max out my credit card to buy one or get a bank loan. Thats like buying a car.
I was mowing an acre with a push mower. It was horrible. We lived in a 25k house and was just barely getting by. I had a new dodge v6 single cab stripped down I had bought for $10900 I was driving.
My wife had woke up one morning and said “you have good credit, just go buy a mower today, get the neighbor to let you mow the yard. Make sure you get enough to make the payment, and we have a free mower.”
I was excited I loved being released to get something. I went to John Deere and eye balled the $3999 ZTR. The manager came out and knew me. He asked what I was gonna mow. I told him an acre, and maybe another acre or 2 mowing my neighbors yard. He explained these mowers were made for half acre very smooth yard and I would tear it up in the country. He showed me a green deck 757 and explained this is what I need to buy. I asked how much and he said $7500. I made sure I was hearing right. From 4K to 8k I was tearing up a mower mowing a few acres.
I told him no offense, but If I was gonna spend that much i was going to get a mower I saw people using on the trailer.
He got offended and said “what’s that”. I said a grasshopper, and he said “I don’t blame you that’s what we all own up here, we would never buy these”.
My journey led me to ask our largest lawn care guy in the area which one to buy. He said his I would have it for life. He didn’t even know how much it was he said he never pays attention.
I came home with a $13k grasshopper 722d kubota diesel mower. It was almost $400 a month. My first job was a cemetery mowing on Saturday when I was off it was $750 a week. I ended up clearing over 100k on that mower and quit my job working around 3 to 4 days a week.
Don’t ever think anything like this is out of reach, all it takes is a little thinking. I have a Friend that bought a mcleran it was his dream car, but he didn’t make near enough money. He simply rents it out sometimes, and he has a free super car he never pays for. I never paid a cent on that 13k lawn mower, other people did. And my acre yard was a blast to mow with that beast over a stupid push mower. If banks are willing to hand people free stuff still I would grab all you can while they are being stupid. There will be a day we won’t be able to just get free stuff anymore.
I will say it like the salesman at the dealership said it. “If you can’t go out and make $300 a month mowing someone’s yard to make this payment, there has to be something wrong with you.”
It looks like a skeleton little bitty
Not sure the bad boy deserves to be in this comparison.
Idk they are my best seller by far. Definitely worth taking a look at. One guy from Houston today was so happy he drove here and drove and tested the bad boy side by side with the brand he was almost buying because it was waay better than he thought
Why not?