Great overview. As much as I appreciate the current ThinkPads, I've changed my living will to have my 2005 American built IBM ThinkPad T60 buried with me when I pass away. That's how amazing older ThinkPads were and the loyal following they still have. Blown away by the increase in battery times with the FHD+ model. Ravi Peiris M.D.
I love my x1 carbon. I bought it with a 25% student discount so the price wasn't that bad. For any other Linux users out there, it works perfectly except for the lack of fwupd. Even the fingerprint reader works!
Thank you for the wonderful and thorough comparison, the hard work you put into your content is always appreciated. But I do have some questions - 1. At the 4:16 mark or so, when you discuss thermals, I'm unsure from which laptop you've drawn these temps? I'd assume the i5 would run cooler than the i7 and I'd be curious to see if in fact that's true, and if so, by how much. 2. At 9:45 or so when you discuss battery life, I'm curious if the nearly double life of the i5/FHD+ model is due to the screen or processor? Or are we to assume it's a combination? Anyways I really enjoyed this comparison, thank you for working so hard on this!!!
I ordered a 5G model, core i5, 256GB of storage, 16GB of RAM, IR webcam and Touch Screen FHD+ for $1,581. I tried some I7 11th laptop from Asus but they are easy throttled at 100C. It make a high performance processor look useless in every thin laptop. Thank for the review. I hope I can get mine soon
Hi! Good review but I noticed on your videos that it gets repetitive especially in the pros and cons and final thoughts. Maybe make it one part? It will save your time and effort in making the vid and our time in watching your vids also.
Nice PC. Good keyboard layout for a PC of this screen size. Webcam was fair. Image looked better on this compared to the video you did about a month ago. 1080p should be the minimum not 720p. Microphone sounded a little muffled but still usable. Display was very good. Does this work with a pen? Port selection was good but a micro SD slot would be nicer. Nice looking PC on the outside. No matter how good these machines look on the outside functionality should always be number one in deciding to purchase any PC. Anyway as always another great review.
Hello Andrew! Thank you for your review. You compared the Core i5, FHD+ configuration battery life (14h, 2') vs. the Core i7, UHD+ configuration battery life (about the half, 7h 48'), but what about the weight "starting at 1.13 kg"? Thank you in advance!
Are all X1 carbon Intent Evo certified? Great review by the way! and great editing. Subscribed! To be honest, my usage is between High to Heavy. Its high but not heavy. So, I am a little confused between X1 Carbon and P15 gen 1. Any comments?
Thanks! Yes, X1 Carbon are evo certified. All models. P15 Gen 1 will be much more powerful than the X1 Carbon Gen 9. It is a mobile workstation with discrete graphics whereas the X1 Carbon Gen 9 is an ultraportable laptop meant for mobility and longevity in terms of battery life.
@@andrewmarcdavid Appreciate your reply. Thank you so much. I think both are good. It's just that P15 is not portable and will demand more battery. Whereas, X1 Carbon will be more battery efficient. I think from "future proofing" POV, I might go with X1 Carbon. :)
Thanks for another great review Andrew. Is the camera quality on the IPS panel version the same as the UHD version? Others have mentioned the trackpad is not a great experience? Is it similar to the X1 Nano trackpad? Thanks!
Great review Marc. Can you suggest a X1 model for me right now looking to buy but confused. Want I7 UHD no touch screen. What model should I be looking at for Christmas 2022?
Hi just want to share that I faced the same problem of my old thinkpad (company laptop) dropping to 0.4 ghz. Processor was i5 8250u. Was pretty frustrating to use as it happens randomly. Didn't really get to the bottom of the issue since i left the company early this year
Love the review. But why is the battery life on this laptop so varied. When just josh review of the laptop (FHD vs 4k) was only a half hour difference or so?
I use a custom test which is used by the industry and those are the actual results from continuous web surfing test over wifi at 150 nits. I don't know which tests Just Josh uses. I can only give you my results.
Other tests confirm Andrew's finding that there is a big difference. NotebookCheck ran tests on the FHD+ i7 model and the UHD+ i7 model. The FHD+ model reached 11:40 (150 nits) and 9:32 (full), while the UHD+ model reached 7:22 (150 nits) and 5:00 (full). Those results are consistent with Andrew's results. I had a look at Just Josh's review, and his test involved streaming a Netflix video on each machine until they both died. I am not sure that is a reliable testing method, and it doesn't give much of an indication of battery life in everyday use. It would have been more useful if he had run separate tests for WiFi and (non-streaming) video playback.
Have you tried screen sharing by video conferencing with Google Meet, Teams or Skype? Connected to the power with the battery selector at maximum performance the laptop is unusable. In my tests I have seen that the system does not have the ability to properly dissipate the heat generated and the performance is very low. Ahh... and I have the latest version of the BIOS. What can you tell us about this?
What is it with the power issues. I just bought one. States battery only has one hour 52m with 75 percent. Also when I shut it down it blinks. The red light and the white power button. I do have the lte version. So what is it with all these people saying 8 to 9 hours of battery. I also don’t understand why Lenovo hasn’t fixed the bios issues with these power standby issues. Never do I have issues with my Dell. Can anyone help
Dear Lenovo, get rid of the Thinkpad X1 Carbon YOGA line and engineer this hinge so it can turn 360 so you can keep the laptop under 2.5lbs. Then call it X1 Carbon Gen360. Thank you.
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Hi, can anyone tell me if this laptop with 16 gb ram and a Intel Iris Xe graphics card is a good choice if i want to use it to run simulations in MatLab, LabView, maybe programming and solidworks, of course im not gonna use all of this programs at once but maybe two at the same time, at most three
reviewer Just Josh just did a side-by-side comparison of all the latest ThinkPads. His conclusion: Yoga Gen 6 > Nano > Carbon Gen 9 > Titanium Yoga Most surprisingly, the Nano battery lasts longer than Gen 9 Carbon and shows similar benchmark test results. The Carbon Gen 9 is a clear disappointment in the display, battery and keyboard.
I saw the comments in the Lenovo website and seems this laptop suffers from throttling a lot, you pay a lot for something that does not work as it should... I was planning to buy it but paying a lot to have a throttling machine, no than you, and even worse because is Intel. I will look only for AMD laptops when they become available and doesn't suffer from the nefarious throttling
Disappointed that you just glossed over the TrackPoint. For many of us it's a necessity and a major driver for using ThinkPads since Lenovo is the only manufacturer still offering keyboards with nubs. As I posted on your unboxing video, cursor drift from using the TrackPoint has been a significant problem for many years. I asked there that you include this in your full review and have waited for your full review before making a decision to purchase the Gen 9. When users post about the problem on the Lenovo site, Lenovo ignores the concerns. Apparently you have chosen to do Lenovo's bidding by avoiding this issue as well by not conducting a full test of the TrackPoint.
It worked fine for me. Sorry can't include everything unless you want a 30+ minute video in which case most people would click away as being too long. My videos are long enough as it is. And the only bidding I do is for the channel, not for the brands.
Still I don't like the Trackpad.... The size is too small... I would expect the Trackpad extending to both ends of the Palmrest.. Then Lenovo should provide a stretcher for keeping the wrist elevated for productivity works like occasional typing, ... I am a too lazy WOKE you know? I buy expensive laptops just to watch RUclips, Netflix, stupid gaming, wasting time watching on somebody making money then steal it ... 😂😂😂😂 the new trend in US😂😂😂😂 A wrist stretcher will prevent accidental touch on the Trackpad for jumping the cursor, screen zooming etc... Oh! May be manufacturers are waiting for Apple to introduce 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I prefer to be like an Apple Woke😂😂😂😂 remove, then add, then remove...😂😂😂
mac with intagrated ssd and all in is just not acceptable. Calculate how much is 16 gb ram and 512 ssd and whatever happen all is integrated in motherboard so no go. Not to mention ancient bezels and smaller 13.3
@@popokatapetl6995 Macbook = better build qualitty, touchpad, display (sRGB, aRGB, P3 coverage), speakers, mic, camera, keyboard backlight stages, battery life, m1 is much more efficient and faster than any intel cpu, apple ecosystem, stability. Should I continue? Btw I had X1 carbon 5th gen it sucked. Terrible display, speakers camera and mic, medicore touchpad, basic build qualitty, paint stripping, hinges lost it's strength after some time, inconsistent keyboard press feeling (mushy keys, sticky, etc...) Nice 2K laptop.
@@PUK1SVA ask Louis Rossman about inside build quality of Apple, I see you hate Intel, I am not fan of them as well but the end of the day X1 Carbon is one hell of compact and decent business laptop. I hve gen 6 and I like it. Dell has latirude 7420 but only Intel no Amd and stays on 16:9.. m2 Mac and 14 inch model maybe took my attention only if ssd be removable othervise no go..
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Great overview. As much as I appreciate the current ThinkPads, I've changed my living will to have my 2005 American built IBM ThinkPad T60 buried with me when I pass away. That's how amazing older ThinkPads were and the loyal following they still have. Blown away by the increase in battery times with the FHD+ model.
Ravi Peiris M.D.
Wow. That's a huge difference in battery life between the FHD and UHD models.
Think its worth going UHD?
I love my x1 carbon. I bought it with a 25% student discount so the price wasn't that bad. For any other Linux users out there, it works perfectly except for the lack of fwupd. Even the fingerprint reader works!
Hey was this on the lenovo website? The student discount
Thank you for the wonderful and thorough comparison, the hard work you put into your content is always appreciated. But I do have some questions - 1. At the 4:16 mark or so, when you discuss thermals, I'm unsure from which laptop you've drawn these temps? I'd assume the i5 would run cooler than the i7 and I'd be curious to see if in fact that's true, and if so, by how much. 2. At 9:45 or so when you discuss battery life, I'm curious if the nearly double life of the i5/FHD+ model is due to the screen or processor? Or are we to assume it's a combination? Anyways I really enjoyed this comparison, thank you for working so hard on this!!!
I ordered a 5G model, core i5, 256GB of storage, 16GB of RAM, IR webcam and Touch Screen FHD+ for $1,581. I tried some I7 11th laptop from Asus but they are easy throttled at 100C. It make a high performance processor look useless in every thin laptop. Thank for the review. I hope I can get mine soon
Hi! Good review but I noticed on your videos that it gets repetitive especially in the pros and cons and final thoughts. Maybe make it one part? It will save your time and effort in making the vid and our time in watching your vids also.
Great review. Thank you for your hard work putting these excellent videos together. Well done.
Thanks really appreciate it 👊
İ am not buying this expensive laptop, but i am here to affect algorythm and support channel😀
Thanks really appreciate it 👊
@@andrewmarcdavid just keep going!
Nice PC. Good keyboard layout for a PC of this screen size. Webcam was fair. Image looked better on this compared to the video you did about a month ago. 1080p should be the minimum not 720p. Microphone sounded a little muffled but still usable. Display was very good. Does this work with a pen? Port selection was good but a micro SD slot would be nicer. Nice looking PC on the outside. No matter how good these machines look on the outside functionality should always be number one in deciding to purchase any PC. Anyway as always another great review.
Thanks! No pen support. For pen support Yoga Gen 6
Andrew, you have the best Review Channel! Congrats!
Thanks!
Here again praising this channel the best Thinkpad review ever! Nicely done!
Thanks really appreciate it 👊
Nice review as always Andrew!
Thanks really appreciate it 👊
Good Video! Thank you! Camera looks nice and clear, audio is just OK.
Glad you liked it!
Very good review!
Hello Andrew! Thank you for your review.
You compared the Core i5, FHD+ configuration battery life (14h, 2') vs. the Core i7, UHD+ configuration battery life (about the half, 7h 48'), but what about the weight "starting at 1.13 kg"?
Thank you in advance!
Wow great review Andrew!
Any plan to do a comparision video between X1 yoga Gen6 and X13 yoga Gen2 - the two 2 ThinkPad convertibles?
I wish USB C ports were in two sides of the laptop rather having them next to each other.
Just got my 32GB i7 UHD. I only got 256GB SSD. Bought a 2TB SSD on Amazon to upgrade. This should last me for a long time.
Nice!
My X1 carbon gen1 with 8gb ram 256gb ssd,still works well.
Man this is high quality reviews vid keep up the good work!! .
Thanks really appreciate it 👊
Amazing review, thanks a lot. Helped me decide
Are all X1 carbon Intent Evo certified? Great review by the way! and great editing. Subscribed!
To be honest, my usage is between High to Heavy. Its high but not heavy. So, I am a little confused between X1 Carbon and P15 gen 1. Any comments?
Thanks! Yes, X1 Carbon are evo certified. All models. P15 Gen 1 will be much more powerful than the X1 Carbon Gen 9. It is a mobile workstation with discrete graphics whereas the X1 Carbon Gen 9 is an ultraportable laptop meant for mobility and longevity in terms of battery life.
@@andrewmarcdavid Appreciate your reply. Thank you so much. I think both are good. It's just that P15 is not portable and will demand more battery. Whereas, X1 Carbon will be more battery efficient. I think from "future proofing" POV, I might go with X1 Carbon. :)
Is the ninth gen battery appreciably better than tenth? If battery is the primary concern, is ninth gen a better deal?
great review. This is a really attractive option as I look for a new laptop, this is a front-runner for sure
Thanks for another great review Andrew. Is the camera quality on the IPS panel version the same as the UHD version? Others have mentioned the trackpad is not a great experience? Is it similar to the X1 Nano trackpad? Thanks!
Great review Marc. Can you suggest a X1 model for me right now looking to buy but confused. Want I7 UHD no touch screen. What model should I be looking at for Christmas 2022?
Hi just want to share that I faced the same problem of my old thinkpad (company laptop) dropping to 0.4 ghz. Processor was i5 8250u. Was pretty frustrating to use as it happens randomly.
Didn't really get to the bottom of the issue since i left the company early this year
Great review.
Which would you prefer: thinkpad x1 carbon vs Acer Swift 5
Thanks, waiting your full test samsung book 360 :-) I think it could fight this Lenovo, don't you ?
I bought the 3 best gens of this series and looks like this is another winner: don't change the keyboard!
Love the review. But why is the battery life on this laptop so varied. When just josh review of the laptop (FHD vs 4k) was only a half hour difference or so?
I use a custom test which is used by the industry and those are the actual results from continuous web surfing test over wifi at 150 nits. I don't know which tests Just Josh uses. I can only give you my results.
@@andrewmarcdavid I see now. Thanks!
Other tests confirm Andrew's finding that there is a big difference. NotebookCheck ran tests on the FHD+ i7 model and the UHD+ i7 model. The FHD+ model reached 11:40 (150 nits) and 9:32 (full), while the UHD+ model reached 7:22 (150 nits) and 5:00 (full). Those results are consistent with Andrew's results.
I had a look at Just Josh's review, and his test involved streaming a Netflix video on each machine until they both died. I am not sure that is a reliable testing method, and it doesn't give much of an indication of battery life in everyday use. It would have been more useful if he had run separate tests for WiFi and (non-streaming) video playback.
@@p.a.5148 Yeah I learned about that a while back ago aswell.
Have you tried screen sharing by video conferencing with Google Meet, Teams or Skype? Connected to the power with the battery selector at maximum performance the laptop is unusable.
In my tests I have seen that the system does not have the ability to properly dissipate the heat generated and the performance is very low. Ahh... and I have the latest version of the BIOS. What can you tell us about this?
Solved with the new BIOS version...
Any plans for gen10 review?
Yes, waiting for Lenovo to send a review unit to me
What is it with the power issues. I just bought one. States battery only has one hour 52m with 75 percent. Also when I shut it down it blinks. The red light and the white power button. I do have the lte version. So what is it with all these people saying 8 to 9 hours of battery. I also don’t understand why Lenovo hasn’t fixed the bios issues with these power standby issues. Never do I have issues with my Dell. Can anyone help
I'm confuse on getting lenovo x1 carbon gen 9 or the dell xps 13 9310
is it better than the dell xps 13 and hp elitebook 1040 g8
does the yoga slim 7 pro have a touchscreen and pen support? as it is a yoga
How do you compare with XPS 9510 oled? 😀
Dear Lenovo, get rid of the Thinkpad X1 Carbon YOGA line and engineer this hinge so it can turn 360 so you can keep the laptop under 2.5lbs. Then call it X1 Carbon Gen360. Thank you.
As far as I can tell, there is no such thing as a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Yoga.
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Ive heard of an issue about cpu throttling on this computer, have you experienced this?
Did you watch the video?
@@andrewmarcdavid I just rewatched it, it must've gone over my head. Guess this laptop is perfect for work use! Thanks!
If I buy i7 FHD, how will be the battery back up time ? Will be same as i5 FHD !!!
Battery life will always be better with FHD+ over UHD+ no matter which processor you choose.
Where is the T14 GEN 3 review 🤔
Just great 👍
Hi, can anyone tell me if this laptop with 16 gb ram and a Intel Iris Xe graphics card is a good choice if i want to use it to run simulations in MatLab, LabView, maybe programming and solidworks, of course im not gonna use all of this programs at once but maybe two at the same time, at most three
Good for video editing ??
I would say 1080p video editing.
Coming up... :)❤️
reviewer Just Josh just did a side-by-side comparison of all the latest ThinkPads. His conclusion: Yoga Gen 6 > Nano > Carbon Gen 9 > Titanium Yoga
Most surprisingly, the Nano battery lasts longer than Gen 9 Carbon and shows similar benchmark test results.
The Carbon Gen 9 is a clear disappointment in the display, battery and keyboard.
@@JanSuchomel watch it and decide for yourself. I think his comparisons are fair and objective.
Comin up!!!!!!!!
I saw the comments in the Lenovo website and seems this laptop suffers from throttling a lot, you pay a lot for something that does not work as it should... I was planning to buy it but paying a lot to have a throttling machine, no than you, and even worse because is Intel. I will look only for AMD laptops when they become available and doesn't suffer from the nefarious throttling
Disappointed that you just glossed over the TrackPoint. For many of us it's a necessity and a major driver for using ThinkPads since Lenovo is the only manufacturer still offering keyboards with nubs. As I posted on your unboxing video, cursor drift from using the TrackPoint has been a significant problem for many years. I asked there that you include this in your full review and have waited for your full review before making a decision to purchase the Gen 9. When users post about the problem on the Lenovo site, Lenovo ignores the concerns. Apparently you have chosen to do Lenovo's bidding by avoiding this issue as well by not conducting a full test of the TrackPoint.
It worked fine for me. Sorry can't include everything unless you want a 30+ minute video in which case most people would click away as being too long. My videos are long enough as it is. And the only bidding I do is for the channel, not for the brands.
Tell 'em Andrew!!!!
It's a fingerprint magnet, had to return mine, going to buy Yoga Gen 6 instead.
What’s your view on the pulsing throttling issue.
watch the video
@@andrewmarcdavid I did. It just said there was an issue. Not your view as lots are complaining about it and returning machines.
Would happen occasionally. Didn't affect everyday tasks. From what I understand a firmware update will fix this.
Another few years, another port layout that makes docks incompatible.
That horrible webcam again. I was silently hoping that we would see already some better webcams in those new laptops.
but at least we have a webcam :D
Carbon fiber weave FTW
Andrew a friend of mine is after your email address, can your provide it?
Still I don't like the Trackpad....
The size is too small...
I would expect the Trackpad extending to both ends of the Palmrest..
Then Lenovo should provide a stretcher for keeping the wrist elevated for productivity works like occasional typing, ...
I am a too lazy WOKE you know? I buy expensive laptops just to watch RUclips, Netflix, stupid gaming, wasting time watching on somebody making money then steal it ... 😂😂😂😂 the new trend in US😂😂😂😂
A wrist stretcher will prevent accidental touch on the Trackpad for jumping the cursor, screen zooming etc...
Oh! May be manufacturers are waiting for Apple to introduce 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I prefer to be like an Apple Woke😂😂😂😂 remove, then add, then remove...😂😂😂
MacBook Air M1 eats this for breakfast and it is less $$ :) Unfortunately, Thinkpad is not what it used to be.
Yup, m1 is just beast.
mac with intagrated ssd and all in is just not acceptable. Calculate how much is 16 gb ram and 512 ssd and whatever happen all is integrated in motherboard so no go. Not to mention ancient bezels and smaller 13.3
@@popokatapetl6995 Macbook = better build qualitty, touchpad, display (sRGB, aRGB, P3 coverage), speakers, mic, camera, keyboard backlight stages, battery life, m1 is much more efficient and faster than any intel cpu, apple ecosystem, stability. Should I continue?
Btw I had X1 carbon 5th gen it sucked. Terrible display, speakers camera and mic, medicore touchpad, basic build qualitty, paint stripping, hinges lost it's strength after some time, inconsistent keyboard press feeling (mushy keys, sticky, etc...) Nice 2K laptop.
@@PUK1SVA ask Louis Rossman about inside build quality of Apple, I see you hate Intel, I am not fan of them as well but the end of the day X1 Carbon is one hell of compact and decent business laptop. I hve gen 6 and I like it. Dell has latirude 7420 but only Intel no Amd and stays on 16:9.. m2 Mac and 14 inch model maybe took my attention only if ssd be removable othervise no go..
@@popokatapetl6995 aaah those days when both processor and ram were removable easily
Great review, thank you for the work.