It would be cool if we got a reference or name-drop to Kang the Conqueror in one of the Spider-Verse films, but I don't think he will be a main villain for them. The Spot, being able to travel through the multiverse as well as the fact that he is literally made up of interdimensional portals opens the door for him to have encountered Kang before also. Shameik Moore transitioning to live action as Miles for Secret Wars would be epic also, so maybe Beyond the Spider-Verse has a post credits scene which teases this! Seeing Hailee Steinfeld play Gwen as well as Kate Bishop would be cool, and a scene where they meet each other face-to-face is a hilarious prospect! They could do the same for Oscar Isaac, Karan Soni and Chris Evans during Secret Wars as well, who have also played different Marvel roles so yeah.
I don't think Kang will be in the Spiderverse films at most probably a reference and Spot most likely take the spot of Kang and be the big bad of the Spiderverse sequel.
@@MrJakePaddy well apparently the Spot is gonna be the main villain of Across the Spiderverse and it's sequel probably more so the sequel considering Across seems to mainly be about Miguel not allowing Miles into the Spider society with Spot mainly being a side/minor obstacle for Miles
I still question if it's legally possible for Kang to appear in Across the Spider-Verse, but maybe behind the scenes Sony and Marvel did work out some contractual agreement.
I don’t buy the legality stuff. Fact is it about profit not continuity. They will do whatever makes the most bang for the buck. Heck don’t be shocked if/when Disney buys Sony (at least the media version not the electronic products version).
Of course it’s “legally possible”, just as it was for spider man to appear in Civil War. They just need to collaborate and get the necessary permissions. If he doesn’t appear, it’s not because it’s “not legally possible”, it’s because they didn’t want to collaborate on the cross over. I think it’s highly unlikely that he will appear in any way. At most it could be a reference or a post credit scene, but even that seems unlikely. Sony did amazing things without Marvel in the original. They don’t need Marvel now.
Oh they definitely did. I don't know it was regarding this character but going forward Sony and Marvel are working together on every project after Kraven. From what I was told they even helped them with that project as best they could considering how far along it was when they signed the new agreement.
Ryan keeps saying "catoregize" instead of "categorize" inverting the "r" and the "g" syllable. 7:03 7:21 7:41 8:03 8:18 8:32 , Having trouble there hehehe😅
Maybe try: cat•tigger•rise or cat•tigger•eyes 🐱🐯💹 or 🐱🐯👀 Just put the bouncy Winnie the Pooh character in the middle of it. Then lift it up and cat•a•gory If Doug doesn't like cats he can imagine cutting and slicing that thing into a bloody *_gory_* mess
@NeonApathy @NeonApathy You might be right. It resembles his name so closely that it's hard to imagine why he'd have so much trouble saying it! 🐱🥚@Arey @ryanArey
I have seen floating in the internet that Across the Spiderverse not only fixes No Way Homes plot holes (like why Venom & Electro showed up) but it also fixes Morbius’ post credit (reason why Vulture shows up in Sony verse). Are those theories true? If so please make a video about it! Ty
I think that Morlin should be the villain for Beyond the Spiderverse and Across the Spiderverse. Maybe Spiderman (TASM), Spiderman (Raimi) and Spiderman (MCU) formed an Avengers like Spiderman team to fight Morlin the first time. The Spiderman Avengers team consisted of Spiderman (TASM), Spiderman (Raimi), Spiderman (MCU), Ghost Spider (Gwen Stacy) (Marvel Rising), Lego Spiderman (Lego Marvel digitally released movies) and Spectacular Spiderman.
I think they could still do Morlin after this, like they could do Spider-Geddon trilogy or something which I think could bring the animated movies to big live action spiderman crossover but that’s just crazy hopeful wishing
@Screencrush In a number of interviews leading up to Ms Marvel, Iman Vellani refers to a dispute she has with the universe, saying Fiege refers to it as 616; but she believes it is 19999 (especially on red carpet)
Into the Spider-Verse: Miles is introduced to the Spider-Verse Across the Spider-Verse: Miles learns about how this Spider-Verse connects all Spider-People as he travels across it Beyond the Spider-Verse: Miles discovers that the multiverse is larger than, or goes beyond, the Spider-Verse *That’s just my guess*
Sony did the Multiverse first, so that's why the numbers are off. In ITSV, Peter B. Parker is from 616, which implies he's OUR Spider-Man from the future. The MCU just decided to go with what was introduced in Far From Home since it's simpler. Edit: this also reinforces that the MCU has been disregarding recent Marvel Comics decisions while Sony is paying homage to them.
Well yeah. Anyone who knows anything should imagine that kang is connected to any multiverse in marvel. But the Dr. strange spell may not have gone correctly. We saw it get disrupted 5 times. So, yeah. Just saying.
So, like, Beyond the Spiderverse is going end with Gwen threading the needle and ringing the bell to save Miles dad... and we get a replay of the bridge scene from Across where Gwen digs through rubble... but Gwen died saving miles dad creating his new canon event. But cause of spots powers the ripple effects are so massive the Spiderverse battle world is created for secret wars.
The reason why I like these movies is because it's not directly tied to the MCU I wish people would just stop with this like let these movies just be there own thing they are flawless works of art that doesn't need to be tarnished by the MCU
I actually dont like the idea the "spiderverse" universe to be connected to mcu. I want to be its own thing. And the big treat that Migel talks about can be Morlin.
Would love to see that the MCU is 616 in there own Multiverse. So that "the Web" is connected to the whole Marvel Omnivers, which uses our namings, but inside the MCM (Marvel Cinematic Multiverse) the Comics and the Videogames, these are there own separate Multiverses with there own 616s.
Doctor strange was mentioned in Spider-Man 2 Tobey Maguire universe. And remember there is a piece of venom in Tobey Maguire's universe The MCU and venom's own universe and remember k n u l l used the symbiotes to connect multiverse as well in The void
Lol you said categorized wrong twice bro 😂 between 7:00 and 7:26 lol . Idc just an observation. Great videos man!!!!! Keep up the great work. And your theory on Kang seems likely 👌🏾
@screencrush is having trouble with the crossover of vulture and venom. Let's ask the question, "What does it look like to bring one character to another universe?" It all depends on perspective and points of reference. Factors vary on how much is brought over it is quite possible for it to appear that one was brought over into the other when it was actually the other way around. Basically anytime it happens, it's a partial merger. Enough of the interjected source universe dominates the local area of the merger from the perspective of an individual observer despite the overall dominance of the greater universe is the reverse from what that same observer would recognize. Any reversal of a merging incursion can be imperfect as well
I came up with better vulture explanation: Adrian Toomes from the venomverse gets pulled into MCU, Police see him walking around, assume one of his old associates has broken him out of prison (given all the other wired stuff happening it makes sense to them) so arrest him, throw him back into prison where he meets the MCU Adrian who tells him all about whats been going on. They make a plan to get out and MCU Adrian gives Venomverse Adrian a copy of the vulture suit incase it doesn't work and one of them needs to free the other. Before that happen Venomverse Adrian gets pulled back into his own universe but now has the plans.
Sometimes I think Ryan just pronounces words wrong for engagement, so here’s your comment: the “g” is before the “r” in “category” so it’s generally pronounced the way that it’s spelled.
MORLUN! No one else; best opportunity to introduce THE TOTEM concept and the character. Make an amalgam of Ezekiel and an older Peter Parker (different voice actor, Sam Elliot maybe?)
Maybe the 616 and then 199999 are not just alternate Earth but also for alternate timeline because Miguel O'Hara isn't just from a alternate future but from a timeline where it is happening at the same time as regular Peter Parker's timeline. It's like the 838 Earth which is more advanced but it happens at the same time as the 616 earth maybe the 616 universe and the 199999 are in the same universe but two separate timelines happening simultaneously like what if episode 4. That could be why some projects seem like they should be happening in the main MCU Cannon but they're not like agents of shield or the Marvel's Netflix shows. Because a timeline has already been effected by Kang that's why I care just like me. Marvel who can time travel like Kang See's time in a loop or America Chavez who can travel not just through alternate universes but dimension too or Doctor strange who can travel those dimensions which are on the border of alternate universes and timelines that's why dimension travel is so dangerous like the quantum realm or the dark dimension there's only one of those dimension because thay are present in every universe that's why character s travel will be important against the fight against Kang. Even Spider-Man who is able to use spider Sense through alternate dimensions and no way home.
This is not the first time they mentioned Dr strange in a Spider-Man movie. Spider-Man 2 when they were trying to name Dr octopus what were they going to call him, Sam ramey's brother says Dr strange and then Jonah Jameson says it's good but already taken
Unrelated, but kinda related. Spiderman Far from home subtlety laid the groundwork for science being able to overcome magic if someone is smart enough. Meaning when Kang faces off with Doctor Strange at some point Kang will still be able to get the upper hand on him
Venom left a piece of himself behind so there's very likely going to be a payoff later on. We didn't actually need him in the film. He was just there because of the Klyntar multiversal hive mind. Hardy's Venom knows versions of himself have fought Spider-Man before and because a majority of Venoms know Peter Parker is Spider-Man due to Venom's comic book origin, that was passed along the Klyntar hive mind. It will soon pass to a potential MCU Venom either through the hive mind or if the symbiote left behind follows his comic book origins. Either way, don't write off Venom just yet. Hardy's Venom didn't have any stakes in that fight. There doesn't seem to be a Spider-Man in his universe and Hardy's Venom is a bit more...chill compared to some of his variants, thanks to his co-pilot relationship with Eddie.
But the thing is tho Sony probably already had their entire spiderverse trilogy planned out before we even knew there was gonna be a multiverse saga so unless they plan to do script rewrites I don’t think the two cinematic universes will be that connected
@4:17 That post-credit scene failed because the MOVIE SUCKED BALLS. but the implications were GREAT! Morbius is Spiderman's best villain, top #5. 5 to be exact. #1 going to SPider Carnage/Carnage Period. Marve has messed up there own Movies and comics.
and also crush the kang that got sucked into his ship will become the beyonder which in the mcu is the strongest kang variant he’s gonna kill all of the council of kangs badly
It would make since and would, I think, reboot the Kang character to the treat he needs to be right now. It would also be a way to get Miles into the MCU. However, I wouldn't hold my breath. Disney is the limiting factor here, and they are only tolerating their relationship with Sony right now. Of course, they would have notes on the MCU and Kang storyline moving forward, of course it could just be a nice Easter egg, which is what I think it is.
And those wristbands of the spider people have look oddly like the ones from the comic book series exiles not the ultraverse version The Marvel versions
I suppose it's also fair with the current references to the MCU as Earth 616, being determinations from a vacuum. I doubt the Illuminati of Doctor Steange has encountered any of the non-cinematic worlds
In regards to the 199999 quote, let’s not forget that they love to throw people off with “not completely true” trailers, and maybe he actually does say 616 in the movie. We’ll have to wait and see
Despite the connections between the Spider-Verse and the MCU, I highly doubt Kang will play any role in Beyond the Spider-Verse, mostly because Sony doesn’t have the rights to use him.
I really don't think Khang is going to pop up because you completely forget the whole Spot story line. If Khang was going to be the big bad, I'm sure they would have already hinted at him more in Across The Spider Verse.
i dont think kang will be the main villain but for sure ik in part 2 post credit scene will be kang but the kangaroo variant talking to miles about him wasting time and helping him get his family back and probably voiced by majors if he’s innocent which i hope he is
Mmm, it would be dope that all this time sony and marvel were working on really connect their worlds and not just those poor connections that we have seen lately 🙏🏼 (except NWH obviously), I hope your theory ends being true 🫶🏻🤩
This sounds to good that I think Marvel/Sony will drop the ball and miss the opportunity to connect it all together. Why? Because that's the what the fan really want. So I'll keep expectations low.
I still can't understand the decision to make the mcu 616. The mcu makes so many changes to the characters and stories that every time anyone complained they could say that it's earth 19999 instead of 616. Why would they get rid of that perfect explanation is beyond me.
“Caterogize” was kicking Ryan’s ass in this one
the "thanks Colton, shut up" did it for me lmfao
It would be cool if we got a reference or name-drop to Kang the Conqueror in one of the Spider-Verse films, but I don't think he will be a main villain for them. The Spot, being able to travel through the multiverse as well as the fact that he is literally made up of interdimensional portals opens the door for him to have encountered Kang before also. Shameik Moore transitioning to live action as Miles for Secret Wars would be epic also, so maybe Beyond the Spider-Verse has a post credits scene which teases this! Seeing Hailee Steinfeld play Gwen as well as Kate Bishop would be cool, and a scene where they meet each other face-to-face is a hilarious prospect! They could do the same for Oscar Isaac, Karan Soni and Chris Evans during Secret Wars as well, who have also played different Marvel roles so yeah.
What about Knull ?
@@ifiwantyoutofeelit was never mentioned
I don't think Kang will be in the Spiderverse films at most probably a reference and Spot most likely take the spot of Kang and be the big bad of the Spiderverse sequel.
Imagine if there was a kang Spiderman variant 😮
I can honestly see the Spot being more of a joke villain. I'd say an evil Spider-man or even a Spider-Kang would be more likely.
@@MrJakePaddy well apparently the Spot is gonna be the main villain of Across the Spiderverse and it's sequel probably more so the sequel considering Across seems to mainly be about Miguel not allowing Miles into the Spider society with Spot mainly being a side/minor obstacle for Miles
Finally Spot will be recognized and brought to the mainstream where he always belonged
After watching this movie, I can say. The references of the MCU is very deep. Knowing how they manager to use animation with life action
Miss Minutes in Loki should give you a decent idea.
The word categorized went 3-0 vs Ryan 😂😂
So early that they haven't noticed the error in their title yet
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Wonder what The error was?
@Dana White's Cocaine Dealer The
and they'll never correct the description
😂😂 ong knowin spot was the reason well him and miles being a anomaly
“Caterogize” is amazing. 😂
I still question if it's legally possible for Kang to appear in Across the Spider-Verse, but maybe behind the scenes Sony and Marvel did work out some contractual agreement.
I don’t buy the legality stuff. Fact is it about profit not continuity. They will do whatever makes the most bang for the buck. Heck don’t be shocked if/when Disney buys Sony (at least the media version not the electronic products version).
Of course it’s “legally possible”, just as it was for spider man to appear in Civil War. They just need to collaborate and get the necessary permissions. If he doesn’t appear, it’s not because it’s “not legally possible”, it’s because they didn’t want to collaborate on the cross over. I think it’s highly unlikely that he will appear in any way. At most it could be a reference or a post credit scene, but even that seems unlikely. Sony did amazing things without Marvel in the original. They don’t need Marvel now.
Oh they definitely did. I don't know it was regarding this character but going forward Sony and Marvel are working together on every project after Kraven. From what I was told they even helped them with that project as best they could considering how far along it was when they signed the new agreement.
They can share any characters they agree upon sharing.
@@JPexo no, that was separate and about streaming rights. The agreement we are referring to is the one in regards to sharing characters.
Dr. Selvig also wrote it down as 616 in Thor the Dark World.
Ryan keeps saying "catoregize" instead of "categorize" inverting the "r" and the "g" syllable.
7:03
7:21
7:41
8:03
8:18
8:32
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Having trouble there hehehe😅
Maybe try:
cat•tigger•rise or cat•tigger•eyes
🐱🐯💹 or 🐱🐯👀
Just put the bouncy Winnie the Pooh character in the middle of it. Then lift it up
and
cat•a•gory
If Doug doesn't like cats he can imagine cutting and slicing that thing into a bloody *_gory_* mess
He does it 4 times!
It isn’t Ryan…it’s a Skrull 😮
@NeonApathy @NeonApathy
You might be right. It resembles his name so closely that it's hard to imagine why he'd have so much trouble saying it!
🐱🥚@Arey
@ryanArey
TIL the word "categorize" is Ryan's kryptonite.
I have seen floating in the internet that Across the Spiderverse not only fixes No Way Homes plot holes (like why Venom & Electro showed up) but it also fixes Morbius’ post credit (reason why Vulture shows up in Sony verse). Are those theories true? If so please make a video about it! Ty
Kindaaa
The biggest plot twist would be that Miguel O'Hara could be working for Kang the conqueror.
I think that Morlin should be the villain for Beyond the Spiderverse and Across the Spiderverse. Maybe Spiderman (TASM), Spiderman (Raimi) and Spiderman (MCU) formed an Avengers like Spiderman team to fight Morlin the first time. The Spiderman Avengers team consisted of Spiderman (TASM), Spiderman (Raimi), Spiderman (MCU), Ghost Spider (Gwen Stacy) (Marvel Rising), Lego Spiderman (Lego Marvel digitally released movies) and Spectacular Spiderman.
Well I wish they could have a Multiversal Sinister Six or a Goblin verse or evil Spider people like the Batman who laughs kinda thing
I think they could still do Morlin after this, like they could do Spider-Geddon trilogy or something which I think could bring the animated movies to big live action spiderman crossover but that’s just crazy hopeful wishing
Ah yes, you must always watch out for that scrert villain! He is very ,very sneaky.
Caterogize!
Thought I was the only one for a second
It was driving me a little crazy and I didn't want to say anything. Some folks trip on certain words and I have to learn to let stuff go lol
But seriously…’caterogize’?? FOUR times??
Even the CW Flash Show has been doing the multiverse trend since around 2015
“Catoregize”
@Screencrush In a number of interviews leading up to Ms Marvel, Iman Vellani refers to a dispute she has with the universe, saying Fiege refers to it as 616; but she believes it is 19999 (especially on red carpet)
Into the Spider-Verse: Miles is introduced to the Spider-Verse
Across the Spider-Verse: Miles learns about how this Spider-Verse connects all Spider-People as he travels across it
Beyond the Spider-Verse: Miles discovers that the multiverse is larger than, or goes beyond, the Spider-Verse
*That’s just my guess*
Sony did the Multiverse first, so that's why the numbers are off. In ITSV, Peter B. Parker is from 616, which implies he's OUR Spider-Man from the future. The MCU just decided to go with what was introduced in Far From Home since it's simpler.
Edit: this also reinforces that the MCU has been disregarding recent Marvel Comics decisions while Sony is paying homage to them.
CaterGORize! Holy Crap... I'm dyslexic and Mr. Aery constantly saying CateRORgize fried my brain.
THANKS for this!!!! And you meant, "Is KANG The *Secret* ..." [AFTER FIXED] Thanks! Nice use of Pops!!!!
Well yeah. Anyone who knows anything should imagine that kang is connected to any multiverse in marvel. But the Dr. strange spell may not have gone correctly. We saw it get disrupted 5 times. So, yeah. Just saying.
IS IT POSSIBLE: When the Sacred Timeline was in tact, the Main MCU is Earth-616. Once broken & apart of MultiVerse it’s Earth-19999.
What btw is caterogizing? I couldn't get over that word, had to even check multiple times that he really said it, multiple times
Typo! Love the vids keep ‘em coming
He will be in Beyond the Spiderverse not this one, and it will most likely just be a cameo or a reference to him
A big reference 😁
It’s a pretty cool theory that we might see Kang in the post credit scene, knowing that Spider-Man 2099 mentions No Way Home.
Scrert villain, the best kind of villain
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Every single time Ryan mispronounces “categorize”:
7:03
7:21
7:41
8:03
8:18
8:32
I needed this comment - twas driving me crazy
“Caterogized” 😂.
“Scrert” Nice
So, like, Beyond the Spiderverse is going end with Gwen threading the needle and ringing the bell to save Miles dad... and we get a replay of the bridge scene from Across where Gwen digs through rubble... but Gwen died saving miles dad creating his new canon event. But cause of spots powers the ripple effects are so massive the Spiderverse battle world is created for secret wars.
The reason why I like these movies is because it's not directly tied to the MCU I wish people would just stop with this like let these movies just be there own thing they are flawless works of art that doesn't need to be tarnished by the MCU
I actually dont like the idea the "spiderverse" universe to be connected to mcu. I want to be its own thing. And the big treat that Migel talks about can be Morlin.
They gone do a cartoon to live action jump maybe that’s why it’s called beyond the spider verse
"Okay thanks Cole, shut up" 😂
kang as the main villain of "beyond the spiderverse" would be so sick! I would love to see that marvel and sony work together more.
Would love to see that the MCU is 616 in there own Multiverse. So that "the Web" is connected to the whole Marvel Omnivers, which uses our namings, but inside the MCM (Marvel Cinematic Multiverse) the Comics and the Videogames, these are there own separate Multiverses with there own 616s.
Doctor strange was mentioned in Spider-Man 2 Tobey Maguire universe.
And remember there is a piece of venom in Tobey Maguire's universe The MCU and venom's own universe and remember k n u l l used the symbiotes to connect multiverse as well in The void
I’m here for the Scrert
Lol you said categorized wrong twice bro 😂 between 7:00 and 7:26 lol . Idc just an observation. Great videos man!!!!! Keep up the great work. And your theory on Kang seems likely 👌🏾
@screencrush is having trouble with the crossover of vulture and venom.
Let's ask the question, "What does it look like to bring one character to another universe?"
It all depends on perspective and points of reference. Factors vary on how much is brought over it is quite possible for it to appear that one was brought over into the other when it was actually the other way around. Basically anytime it happens, it's a partial merger. Enough of the interjected source universe dominates the local area of the merger from the perspective of an individual observer despite the overall dominance of the greater universe is the reverse from what that same observer would recognize.
Any reversal of a merging incursion can be imperfect as well
You forget that in Thor: The Dark World , Dr. Erik Selvig states the universe as 616.
No, kang isn’t the villain of spider verse
I came up with better vulture explanation: Adrian Toomes from the venomverse gets pulled into MCU, Police see him walking around, assume one of his old associates has broken him out of prison (given all the other wired stuff happening it makes sense to them) so arrest him, throw him back into prison where he meets the MCU Adrian who tells him all about whats been going on. They make a plan to get out and MCU Adrian gives Venomverse Adrian a copy of the vulture suit incase it doesn't work and one of them needs to free the other. Before that happen Venomverse Adrian gets pulled back into his own universe but now has the plans.
Make it happen Ryan. I dig this theory
Sometimes I think Ryan just pronounces words wrong for engagement, so here’s your comment: the “g” is before the “r” in “category” so it’s generally pronounced the way that it’s spelled.
MORLUN! No one else; best opportunity to introduce THE TOTEM concept and the character. Make an amalgam of Ezekiel and an older Peter Parker (different voice actor, Sam Elliot maybe?)
The director of Guardians mentioned this was his fav movie as well..
Dang 15 minute ago! I got lucky today catching screen crush video this early 🎉
There are more universes for animated characters that’s why the comics and animated Spider-Man movies have the MCU as 199999
I think
didn’t someone officially say this spiderverse movie won’t connect to mcu spidey
Could be that 2099 is talking about an alternate earth where the Dr strange/spiderman event happened with little variation ie aunt may is a senior
Maybe the 616 and then 199999 are not just alternate Earth but also for alternate timeline because Miguel O'Hara isn't just from a alternate future but from a timeline where it is happening at the same time as regular Peter Parker's timeline. It's like the 838 Earth which is more advanced but it happens at the same time as the 616 earth maybe the 616 universe and the 199999 are in the same universe but two separate timelines happening simultaneously like what if episode 4. That could be why some projects seem like they should be happening in the main MCU Cannon but they're not like agents of shield or the Marvel's Netflix shows. Because a timeline has already been effected by Kang that's why I care just like me. Marvel who can time travel like Kang See's time in a loop or America Chavez who can travel not just through alternate universes but dimension too or Doctor strange who can travel those dimensions which are on the border of alternate universes and timelines that's why dimension travel is so dangerous like the quantum realm or the dark dimension there's only one of those dimension because thay are present in every universe that's why character s travel will be important against the fight against Kang. Even Spider-Man who is able to use spider Sense through alternate dimensions and no way home.
This is not the first time they mentioned Dr strange in a Spider-Man movie. Spider-Man 2 when they were trying to name Dr octopus what were they going to call him, Sam ramey's brother says Dr strange and then Jonah Jameson says it's good but already taken
Peter B. Parker is from 616 in the first Spider-Verse film.
Unrelated, but kinda related. Spiderman Far from home subtlety laid the groundwork for science being able to overcome magic if someone is smart enough. Meaning when Kang faces off with Doctor Strange at some point Kang will still be able to get the upper hand on him
You said hexagon without showing the Bees meme, your slipping :P
Venom left a piece of himself behind so there's very likely going to be a payoff later on. We didn't actually need him in the film. He was just there because of the Klyntar multiversal hive mind. Hardy's Venom knows versions of himself have fought Spider-Man before and because a majority of Venoms know Peter Parker is Spider-Man due to Venom's comic book origin, that was passed along the Klyntar hive mind. It will soon pass to a potential MCU Venom either through the hive mind or if the symbiote left behind follows his comic book origins. Either way, don't write off Venom just yet. Hardy's Venom didn't have any stakes in that fight. There doesn't seem to be a Spider-Man in his universe and Hardy's Venom is a bit more...chill compared to some of his variants, thanks to his co-pilot relationship with Eddie.
But the thing is tho Sony probably already had their entire spiderverse trilogy planned out before we even knew there was gonna be a multiverse saga so unless they plan to do script rewrites I don’t think the two cinematic universes will be that connected
@4:17 That post-credit scene failed because the MOVIE SUCKED BALLS. but the implications were GREAT! Morbius is Spiderman's best villain, top #5. 5 to be exact. #1 going to SPider Carnage/Carnage Period. Marve has messed up there own Movies and comics.
No
and also crush the kang that got sucked into his ship will become the beyonder which in the mcu is the strongest kang variant he’s gonna kill all of the council of kangs badly
It’s all confusing but I’m here for it
7:03 and 7:41 and 8:32 caterogize = categorize. Doug, you are typing the scripts wrong!
I just think that there can be more than Kang as multiverse threats. Aren't there Spidey villains?
Wasn't there going to be a Madame Web movie also?
I was thinking that there could have been the same sequence of events happen on 616 and 19999999999999+, just with different spider people.
It would make since and would, I think, reboot the Kang character to the treat he needs to be right now. It would also be a way to get Miles into the MCU. However, I wouldn't hold my breath. Disney is the limiting factor here, and they are only tolerating their relationship with Sony right now. Of course, they would have notes on the MCU and Kang storyline moving forward, of course it could just be a nice Easter egg, which is what I think it is.
Or Sony calls it 19999 specifically BECAUSE they can't say 616.
yep, Peter B Parker is their 616 spidey
Sony is calling it the right name.
@screencrush are you saying caterogize in stead of categorize?
The movie secret villain should be morbius and gets the ability of morbin time
It could just be there for the commercial and in the movie they actually say 616
Didn't Kang get sucked into a computer type thing at the end of Quantumania? Could be a way to write him into the animated universe?
That core could have sent him anywhere in the multiverse, so it's possible.
And those wristbands of the spider people have look oddly like the ones from the comic book series exiles not the ultraverse version The Marvel versions
I suppose it's also fair with the current references to the MCU as Earth 616, being determinations from a vacuum. I doubt the Illuminati of Doctor Steange has encountered any of the non-cinematic worlds
What IF: This multiverse story is just Misterio messing with Peter
In regards to the 199999 quote, let’s not forget that they love to throw people off with “not completely true” trailers, and maybe he actually does say 616 in the movie. We’ll have to wait and see
Despite the connections between the Spider-Verse and the MCU, I highly doubt Kang will play any role in Beyond the Spider-Verse, mostly because Sony doesn’t have the rights to use him.
Maybe 19999 is the cartoon version of 616?
Bravo!
I'd like to see Spider-verse go live action eventually. Wizard of Oz style
I really don't think Khang is going to pop up because you completely forget the whole Spot story line. If Khang was going to be the big bad, I'm sure they would have already hinted at him more in Across The Spider Verse.
i dont think kang will be the main villain but for sure ik in part 2 post credit scene will be kang but the kangaroo variant talking to miles about him wasting time and helping him get his family back and probably voiced by majors if he’s innocent which i hope he is
What if it is Earth 616 and Universe 199999? Would make sense the way Mysterio and Dr Paler referred to it...
I'm going to be so mad if this idea spoils it for me in the theater next week.
Didn't one or more of the actors confirm that behind the scenes Marvel refers to the MCU as 199999?
Cool idea. But i think the Director or writers said Spot is gonna be the overall villain
Mmm, it would be dope that all this time sony and marvel were working on really connect their worlds and not just those poor connections that we have seen lately 🙏🏼 (except NWH obviously), I hope your theory ends being true 🫶🏻🤩
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Kang isn’t gonna be in the movie. If anything, he’ll be in Beyond the Spider-Verse. A lot of people have no idea we’re getting a sequel next year
Maybe every mysterio throws out arandom number each time one does thats the label of their universe.
That would be a HELL NO!!
This sounds to good that I think Marvel/Sony will drop the ball and miss the opportunity to connect it all together. Why? Because that's the what the fan really want. So I'll keep expectations low.
I still can't understand the decision to make the mcu 616. The mcu makes so many changes to the characters and stories that every time anyone complained they could say that it's earth 19999 instead of 616. Why would they get rid of that perfect explanation is beyond me.
The mispronunciation of categorized is killing me. But great videos as usual
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