Can I ask a question? Why is your motor at an opposing angle to your pulley? Should it not be horizontal to it? Maybe the back of the motor needs to be lifted at the ESC end? I am new to this so that's why I'm asking? Thank you
probabbly the center differential mind did the same a month ago turns put the gears in the centre diff where not touching becuase the bolts on the whole diff housing where starting to come loose.
@@lilnash7 yeah I’m still deciding if I’m gonna try the belt drive out again….I think the tension of the belt is what stripped out my spur gear cover screws
What i’ve learn on xmaxx is if you upgrade your motor to a better one you have to make sure you upgrade you esc and when you upgrade those you differentials front and back and mid will fill that more power so you better be ready to replace because trust me, i experience all of that. Also i put the steel rings for my drive cuffs to.
Shimming those diffs and locking up the center (earplugs typically) really helps that extra power not tear them to pieces. Metal housings for those 3x diffs is a good idea too. As for the drive cups, yeah, those rings are good. Vitavon makes replacement cups that are way beefy and have 4x slots so when you wear one set out you have another to use.
Here is a test, as is lift up the back of your xmaxx now push it forward and pull it backwards while your holding the rear up. Now if the rear has so much delay to spin or not spinning at all it means your center diff is going bad or stripped.
My belt drive has been great minus running max 6 little bit of over heating. May have to switch to max 5 or maybe castle xlx. You have some other issues going on.
I wonder if the motor bearings are failing or is it the belt drive. The Mod 1.5 seem like a good upgrade they're is a german company on facebook that makes a cush drive compatible mod 1.5 spur gear. Cool video either way.
Upgrade the fan on that ESC. The ESC is a bit small for that motor. Running it hot = you'll kill it eventually. You already see the stock fans just die without warning and make matters even worse.
Yea I learned a long time ago that esc fans need upgraded immediately. I’ve burned electronics in just a couple minutes because the damn esc fan stops… I mean most of those stock plastic fans can be stopped by a blade of grass 🤣
The belt drive system does pull up on that out-drive much more so than the original geared drive version, so I can see where those missing screws would lead to that problem. Question is, do you have to now replace the entire housing? Or can you install larger diameter screws and get by? You've been more than fair to this belt drive system and from what I'm seeing in the comments, others have not had much luck with this system either, so maybe you're right, its time to move on to something better suited to the power you're using... Either way, this series has been quite interesting to watch and you've provided a lot of useful information in these Nolan! Thanks Brother! :)
No problem man! I don’t know if I’ll be able to use bigger screws or not…..I might just replace the entire rear bulkhead and center diff and then put in a 1.5 mod gear
@@mikegrzincic6235 it’s gotta be a very fine line…..I already had a lot of issues with not having enough tension……now there might be too much…..I’m not sure if there is gonna be a happy medium unfortunately
Those screws clamp down on the bearing. You need all 4 in 100%> good video man. I thought belt drive was for me but it's not after watching what pain you have had to go through.
The stock gears will typically evaporate when using big motors and such. Even the stock power will kill them. Traxxas gears are made of "monkey metal". Hardened steel 1.5 gears are the way to go.
man youre having a lot of bad luck with the belt drive when I ran a belt drive on my x maxx for almost 2 years it was perfect bought the pullies and the belt from china for 10 dollars, only problem i encounter was when i wanted to remove the pullies they wouldnt come off lol had to cut them off and decided not to run belt drive again. but i really enjoyed belt drive really really quiet compared to my mod1.5. just bought vitavon gears 3030 and will be trying those.
@@onemansvideos2134 oh I think it’ll have the same issue…..it appears the actual threads might have stripped out of the plastic bulkhead probably from the tension of the belt
Bro that is pretty weird I thought the 3rd time was going to be the charm it actually sounds like your death is stripped or has a tooth out of it when you are doing your launches and you have it full throttle and the front wheels are up in the air when it comes back down on just one of your front wheels that puts a tremendous amount of strain on your diffs I do believe I am not sure But I am sure that you will figure this out...
Exploded diff.. I could tell straight away that the diff or final gear in your box has just Exploded. Yes you have taken teeth of the crown gear that's what that noise is 😅
@@RCKnockout my old savage project did exactly the same thing, that's how I could tell 👍 Uprate the gears to steel ones (preferably hardened) and you won't have that issue again. Cast gears won't have enough strength to deal with the power of that brushless set-up. You can easily do it with the motor brakes aswell as the whole drive train locks up but the truck still moves and its gotta give somewhere... Hope this helps you with your RC'ing 🤘
Hmmm I’d say go back to normal gearing and accept some shredded gears before you kill those electronics 😅. I mean surely someone’s figured out how to preserve the xmaxx gears right?
I don’t think I will be going back to stock gears…..if I do swap back over to traditional gears I’ll be putting in some 1.5 mod gears……those should definitely hold up to the power
Brushless is becoming almost as unreliable as nitro. At least with nitro you get the sound and smell. And when tuned right they run all day. No diff problems. No potential explosive battery fires. Better in my opinion.
Pinion pulley is way to big esc will just cut power due to excessive amp draw per KV selection. You need a 15t Pinion pulley with the 30t spur pulley
Thanks for the recommendation
Can I ask a question? Why is your motor at an opposing angle to your pulley? Should it not be horizontal to it? Maybe the back of the motor needs to be lifted at the ESC end? I am new to this so that's why I'm asking? Thank you
Motor is straight. It's the fan housing that's sitting wonky and making it look uneven.
The fan is making it look out of line…..it’s completely in line
lmao
probabbly the center differential mind did the same a month ago turns put the gears in the centre diff where not touching becuase the bolts on the whole diff housing where starting to come loose.
Yeah the Input gear is completely stripped and the center diff ring gear is also missing some teeth
@@RCKnockout well at list you know it's not the belt drive now. Hopefully all goes well next run
@@lilnash7 yeah I’m still deciding if I’m gonna try the belt drive out again….I think the tension of the belt is what stripped out my spur gear cover screws
What i’ve learn on xmaxx is if you upgrade your motor to a better one you have to make sure you upgrade you esc and when you upgrade those you differentials front and back and mid will fill that more power so you better be ready to replace because trust me, i experience all of that. Also i put the steel rings for my drive cuffs to.
Shimming those diffs and locking up the center (earplugs typically) really helps that extra power not tear them to pieces. Metal housings for those 3x diffs is a good idea too. As for the drive cups, yeah, those rings are good. Vitavon makes replacement cups that are way beefy and have 4x slots so when you wear one set out you have another to use.
Yeah it’s definitely a trickle effect lol
For XMAXX stuff, look up exocaged rc! He has ALOT of good information and I believe he ran the belt drive and didnt like it!
Thanks! I’ll have to check out his videos
I can get that esc to overheat in a 10th scale car running an 1/8th scale motor.. what hope does it have pushing that beast around
Stock fan and it's mounted deep in the chassis. Yeah, its got no hope on hot days. Combine that with what amounts to 25/30 gearing and it's a bbq.
13% chance lol 😂
Here is a test, as is lift up the back of your xmaxx now push it forward and pull it backwards while your holding the rear up. Now if the rear has so much delay to spin or not spinning at all it means your center diff is going bad or stripped.
That’s true…..Thanks for the tip 👍😉
Appreciate yo sharing Nolan. Mod 1.5 you won’t look back .
No problem! That might be the next move to make
Almost sounds like a
Diff sound.
Maybe who knows
My belt drive has been great minus running max 6 little bit of over heating. May have to switch to max 5 or maybe castle xlx.
You have some other issues going on.
Yeah definitely got a few other things that need to be figured out
Try spiral gears and put a silicone earplug in center diff. Really puts the power down.
Ok thanks for the tip!
Mod 1.5 gears- no issues- just bashing time to enjoy
I’ve switched to 1.5 mod….I’ve still had a few issues with it….definitely more carefree than this though
Omg nolan, injust fix the same issue i got!!! Center torque biasing diff is done!
Part # 7796 is a complete assembly. I change mine today and it runs great again. Make sure you put a 20 mil diff fluid. Part # 5054
Yeah I’ll have to tear into it to see if the center diff is in fact the issue
I wonder if the motor bearings are failing or is it the belt drive. The Mod 1.5 seem like a good upgrade they're is a german company on facebook that makes a cush drive compatible mod 1.5 spur gear. Cool video either way.
Thanks bro! Next move might be the 1.5 mod gears
It might just be the camera but it looks like your motor shaft is bent down. Like the belt system is putting to much tension on your motor shaft.
I know what you mean…..it looks like it but it’s not bent…..it’s an illusion
I might of said this before but your video quality is off the charts 👏 👌
Thanks! Glad it’s looking good! 👍😉
Upgrade the fan on that ESC. The ESC is a bit small for that motor. Running it hot = you'll kill it eventually. You already see the stock fans just die without warning and make matters even worse.
Yea I learned a long time ago that esc fans need upgraded immediately. I’ve burned electronics in just a couple minutes because the damn esc fan stops… I mean most of those stock plastic fans can be stopped by a blade of grass 🤣
The belt drive system does pull up on that out-drive much more so than the original geared drive version, so I can see where those missing screws would lead to that problem. Question is, do you have to now replace the entire housing? Or can you install larger diameter screws and get by?
You've been more than fair to this belt drive system and from what I'm seeing in the comments, others have not had much luck with this system either, so maybe you're right, its time to move on to something better suited to the power you're using...
Either way, this series has been quite interesting to watch and you've provided a lot of useful information in these Nolan! Thanks Brother! :)
No problem man! I don’t know if I’ll be able to use bigger screws or not…..I might just replace the entire rear bulkhead and center diff and then put in a 1.5 mod gear
@@RCKnockout maybe try the least amount of tension possible like stated above its not designed to be pulled together by a belt
@@mikegrzincic6235 it’s gotta be a very fine line…..I already had a lot of issues with not having enough tension……now there might be too much…..I’m not sure if there is gonna be a happy medium unfortunately
Those screws clamp down on the bearing. You need all 4 in 100%> good video man. I thought belt drive was for me but it's not after watching what pain you have had to go through.
Thanks! Yeah I think the tension from the belt drive is what stripped the screws out and in turn caused the input gear to strip
Good thing u have so many rcs, cuzz this one isn't cutting it atm
It’s a work in progress lol 😂
Not sure what's wrong with regular spur and pinion gears....the belt drive in theory sounds good but doesn't seem to work to well.....good luck👍
The stock gears will typically evaporate when using big motors and such. Even the stock power will kill them. Traxxas gears are made of "monkey metal". Hardened steel 1.5 gears are the way to go.
Yeah the stock gears are garbage…..but the belt drive hasn’t worked as flawlessly as I would have hoped lol
man youre having a lot of bad luck with the belt drive when I ran a belt drive on my x maxx for almost 2 years it was perfect bought the pullies and the belt from china for 10 dollars, only problem i encounter was when i wanted to remove the pullies they wouldnt come off lol had to cut them off and decided not to run belt drive again. but i really enjoyed belt drive really really quiet compared to my mod1.5. just bought vitavon gears 3030 and will be trying those.
I’m glad to hear you had better luck than I’ve had lol
I would ask other people who run this setup and make sure u setup the ESC the second choice for auto shutoff I believe 225
I put it at the higher setting…..it might be 225…….I thought it was 257 though
gotta have an aluminum cover on that with belt drive cause heat will cause it to stretch
Aluminum cover on what part?
@@RCKnockout on the spur gear shaft gear cover
@@onemansvideos2134 oh I think it’ll have the same issue…..it appears the actual threads might have stripped out of the plastic bulkhead probably from the tension of the belt
@@RCKnockout the reason I stuck with gears the belt drive just a big headache 😫 I've got one sitting in one my 20 parts drawers
@@onemansvideos2134 yeah so far that’s been the experience for me
Might as well go back to the stock setup
You’re not wrong
That bottom shaft sure does move a lot. I'm no expert,but that doesn't seem right. Unless you loosened it prior to filming.
That’s just play in between the bearings the clearances aren’t very tight
Wow it actually sounds like an engine Now
It’s not supposed to though lol 😂
but seems your making good progress on this
Two steps forward one step back
Bro that is pretty weird I thought the 3rd time was going to be the charm it actually sounds like your death is stripped or has a tooth out of it when you are doing your launches and you have it full throttle and the front wheels are up in the air when it comes back down on just one of your front wheels that puts a tremendous amount of strain on your diffs I do believe I am not sure But I am sure that you will figure this out...
The engineers at traxas get paid big dollars for a reason that's probably why the spur gear and opinion works best
Yeah the main gear of the center diff is missing some teeth and the output 20t gear is completely stripped
Yeah gears do probably work best……not their cheap gears though lol 😂
Its your center diff will about to go bad soon.
Yeah the center diff gear is missing some teeth on it too
Exploded diff..
I could tell straight away that the diff or final gear in your box has just Exploded.
Yes you have taken teeth of the crown gear that's what that noise is 😅
I’m missing some teeth off of the main center diff gear…..haven’t dug into the center diff yet
@@RCKnockout my old savage project did exactly the same thing, that's how I could tell 👍
Uprate the gears to steel ones (preferably hardened) and you won't have that issue again.
Cast gears won't have enough strength to deal with the power of that brushless set-up.
You can easily do it with the motor brakes aswell as the whole drive train locks up but the truck still moves and its gotta give somewhere...
Hope this helps you with your RC'ing 🤘
@@m4d_mark_xtr3me79 thanks! Are there hardened steel upgrades available for the Xmaxx center diff?
The sound Look like diff problem
I’ve still gotta dig into it some more
Lol let us know I’m interested now
You should contact me since we both ran on same issue after upgrading our esc its so funny
Hmmm I’d say go back to normal gearing and accept some shredded gears before you kill those electronics 😅. I mean surely someone’s figured out how to preserve the xmaxx gears right?
I don’t think I will be going back to stock gears…..if I do swap back over to traditional gears I’ll be putting in some 1.5 mod gears……those should definitely hold up to the power
good try man
Thanks man!
motor is stripped !!
:)
Brushless is becoming almost as unreliable as nitro. At least with nitro you get the sound and smell. And when tuned right they run all day. No diff problems. No potential explosive battery fires. Better in my opinion.
Bad diff
No good ..too slow…