2021 Vital MX 250 Shootout
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Which is our pick for the best 2021 250cc motocross bike? It's Shootout time between the 2021 Honda CRF250R, Husqvarna FC 250, Kawasaki KX250, KTM 250 SX-F, and Yamaha YZ250F. Unfortunately, the Suzuki RM-Z250 was omitted because the unchanged 2021 model was not in the country at the moment. However, we still had a stacked field of bikes for our 2021 Vital MX 250 Shootout, so take a seat, click play, and enjoy.
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When 250f bikes came out first 2003/2004 some were far far better then others then slowly but surely they started catching up with eachother. Performance reliability etc... Literally just pick a color these days . It's a great thing really
Besides the Honda, they're really hitting the physical limit of what a 250f can do on pump gas. Now it depends more on the tune and setup you want from the bike.
I still think the Japanese edge out the Ktm group for reliability. I've found Honda and Yamaha to generally last if you want to go the distance with these machines.
@@richr161 yes I agree 💯 regarding the pinnacle off power now they have reached. Reliability . I wouldn't agree I mean I don't think the gap is as big as you say. It's about maintenance . Simple as
Where was Suzuki. Everyone knows the bike hasn't changed but should still be included. And Gas Gas as well it's a new generation bike
Yes Suzuki should be in there as well. But the were to late.
Not everyone looks at the description
And @74 CYCLES he asked about gas gas the description does not explain that and not everyone one looks. You don’t have to be a d bag and if he’s watching this he probably rides and isn’t lazy. People can’t ask questions and if he’s wasting time then don’t read the comments or don’t watch the video.
Suzuki isn’t in the country yet and their aren’t too many gasgas yet either, so all the industry figured that suzuki finished the last few years so they’d just leave it out and that ktm and husky would represent gasgas.
no point in gas gas lol then there's 3 ktms in the lineup
I’d absolutely kill to be able to say, “gotta couple long days ahead...so let’s get to the track and get to work.”🤯😳😳 Good on ya guys though. Deserved. 👍
They are all great bikes it's mostly personal preference
yes i like honda
@@jonbob3497 me too I like all dirtbike Brands
Except for Suzuki 😂 jk jk
Even Suzuki. All the money you save compared to other bikes can be used to make it better.
@@the-bt6lc I personally don’t like the Suzuki four strokes but their old 2 strokes are killer
Comment section
10% "talking about review"
90% "Suzuki who?"
It’s so crazy how to get a lil bit of performance change out of your bike back in the day the minimum was changing sprockets, reed valves, exhaust system and potentially much more work.
Now you hit a button on your cell phone and the bikes performs differently.......
maybe it’s just me but that is insane! And quite impressive...!!
Great test as usual and nice that it is recognized that none of these bikes are going to hold a rider back. Amazing how good bikes are these days. As an old guy approaching 50 I can remember the days where there used to be bikes that genuinely stunk. Now pick your color and have fun. My KTM 150 is like a works bike compared to anything I was running back then and more fun to ride as well.
It all comes down to personal preference. I’ve ridden two strokes all my life so the Honda was the best bike for me, and personally it feels very fast still. The suspension is great, and it feels very nimble. Great bike
Same, always rode 2 strokes. I am looking at the Honda as well....
Man U wish someone would do a woods bike shoot around
@74 CYCLES Yes people do want that. Their is more buisness in the woods market in today’s times then mx.
@@smeig5116 id say thats not right
Try Dirt Bike or Dirt Rider Magazines..
A what the heck you say??
@@jamesagnew3213 yea Dirt Rider is good all around .
They should start doing shootouts on east coast tracks too and see how they handle softer, deeper, perhaps rougher tracks...
Yea I agree tracks are way more gnarly here
You haven’t felt rough until you go down mount St.Helen on race day at glen helen trust
Alex Sandoval not at all east coast tracks are even worse than that all the time
@@arnoldmassey2747 have you actually ridden any tracks anywhere else? If so which ones
Being from Scotland, I'd also like to see them in different conditions instead of those perfectly groomed hard pack tracks.
I ride mainly sand (real european sand, not hard pack with loose stuff on top). And, because the weather here is sh......shockingly bad we ride A LOT of mud.
Suzuki has left the chat...
Right I thought they had a new one with WiFi
I have a1978 rm 250 that I'm in the middle of restoring
🤣🤣🤣
They’ll be back. Spent loads of money on their MotoGP program. Luckily they will put more money back on their motocross bikes now that they won the GP championship
Suzuki is still the best. Kickstart for life.
I remember when they tested in Dirt Bike and posted LAP TIMES!.......A bike would get rave reviews and then they would see the time and it stunk! In Moto, lap times DO matter and the ''Feel'' of a Bike may be great but if it is slow around the Track is that the one to pick? Depends if you ride for fun or compete.
Mike Sleeter said himself that a ktm 125 is faster than the Honda 250. Apparently those things are slow I think they might be sugar coating. But he did say everything else was amazing
I have one and my friend has the new yz250f. They aren’t that much different. Also the wide ass shrouds on the yamaha are too wide for me
Damn crazy how Suzuki ain’t even on the shootout for 2021😢
we know what place it would’ve gotten🤣
Lol not even sad bro
Well suzuki is always last in everything. The bike isnt even out. We have basic info about it and whats new in the bike. But like last year suzuki came last out of the box so why wait
Yes really sad
Yes it is sad
Shoutout to you guys, you make my life way easier find out more on the bikes with pros!!
rode my buddy’s yz250f and his crf250r. Still would pick my rmz250 any day. turns amazing and has good power.
I agree I have 2 rmz450s and they handle like trains
Lmao I got the yz250 the rmz is trash Yamaha all fuckin day
Lmfao
"We are going to beat around the bush and tell you pointless pros and cons that balance themselves out about each bike. Ultimately we will leave you with no answer, still wondering which bike works for you."
My buddies have the new kawi and honda. Imo the Honda feels good and connected. Lacks in power. The kawi is much more powerful but maybe lacks in feel compared to Honda. Both good bikes. Ide pick the kawi. I personally ride a 250 sx smoker so I feel I am unbiased. My bike is better than both lol
I cannot believe you guys got Ferrandis to review the YZ!! Hahahaha
Boniface
K @@dali2277 look ii.g
K I okay intuit the 8
Injurious
12:39 man o man... its just something about that yz blue!
Im between Kawi & Yamaha for my next 250. Tho KTM & Gas Gas are intriguing. Closest dealer to me has Honda/Kawi/Suzuki. Getting new bike in 2wks! - NH Ohio
I love how everybody has mint tech 10 boots on and this guy in the far right has the crustiest white boots I’ve seen in a while ( maybe tech 1 or 8)
Nah one has deus tech 7s
@@dasnicenoob6140 they look like Tech8s and they last for ever!
@@Husasmith no they are definitely tech 7s they don’t make dues tech 8s
Das Nice Noob maybe I’m mixing them up🤷♂️ long time since I’d that model sticking with tech6s now them tech10s are like bricks zero feel in them!
@@dasnicenoob6140 there is tech 8 I believe they are for enduro
If dude on the left mentions he’s a “smaller guy” one more time
Yamaha go go . I picked the right bike for me yz250F
1st Place Rank!
@John Kramer The YZ250F Is a nice looking bike I remember back in 2001 This bike came out.
@John Kramer Ricky Carmichael went back to Kawasaki after 20 years
@John Kramer oh Nice this year the KX450 Ranked 1st.
@John Kramer 👍
To the guys talking about brands and what beats what, until you hit the level of being the top 1% or so of racers, you are not even riding the bike to its fullest potential. Other than creature comforts and brand loyalty, the bikes really don't perform much different if setup correctly at an amateur level. I am a die hard Suzuki guy and wanted nothing more than to buy a new 2021 RMZ250 but they cant seem to get their shit together so I bought a Honda as they are readily available, sexy and electric start.
No one can ride them to full potential
Great review guys!
I’m getting a new bike this month
Going with the Yamaha!
Thanks guys
I just got the 2021 YZ250f. Amazing bike
Great choice!
Thanks Vital, lots of great information to help us make a decision on which bike to buy. Great work guys.
Where is suzuki at this year surely they can get another years sales out of that 2006 technology they run
Not in the US yet. Read the description. Thats why it isn't in the shootout
Suzuki is in the 6th place.
No RMZ this year? Sad times for Suzuki. Great video, thanks. 👍
Yes so sad😭
It's not the same without a yellow bike. Yet we know it would get last.
Most comfortable/best handling bike always
Being left out of the shootout altogether might be the motivation they need to finally improve their machine
The 2021 bike isn't in the country yet. Read the description
Thanks for this shootout format, very helpful. One thing- It would be nice if you listed the testers names in the vid description. But great job, guys!
I am looking to buy a yz250f what do you think
id say John short is proving Suzuki is a viable weapon.
Sad days! no Suzuki
😭
Excellent shootout, as usual. You have the most objective opinions, impartial review. Thanks 🙏
Clean KTM 🧡
I’m 5ft 6 70kgs would any theses bikes suit my size or would they be too big ??? Any advice would be appreciated
250f fits the common man. You'll be grand
Love the Yamaha
0:38 Big changes for Yamaha. You now need to keep a ballpeen hammer in your tool kit.
Good catch lol
Excuse me where is susuki ?
well, well done - super shootout with great documentation - BIG THX
The stash is back 🤘🤘
What would be the best bang-for-buck upgrades you can get for $1400 for the 2021 Suzuki RM-Z250?
I'd say using that money to buy a better bike. Zuks are lacking
@@mattnemeth1333 Well, for an extra 1400, you can buy the KTM. But im just wondering if there's much you can get for the Zuk for 1400 that'll bring it up nera the KTM's level of perf.
@@Corteum if you're going to add aftermarket parts to the bike I wouldn't get a suzuki. Just doesn't make a ton of sense to me since you're trying to save money. It's a good fun bike but I'd just ride it stock everything because you'll spend more than $1400 trying to get the bike on par with something a little better than if you had spent the money up front. You really can't go too wrong these days because they're all good bikes. But if you get a suzuki you should probably just keep it stock or just get a different bike.
Suzuki is still the best. Kickstart for life.
hello guys can you help me? i have an rmz250 2010 and i want a new bike from this 3 which is better and reliable, crf 2017, rmz 2018, or ktm 2014? I want it for amateur use
Fantastic Fellas.. You couldn't have given us a better format to collect and apply that data/info to ourselves.. Much Respect and Thnk U.. ✌ Old G
I like pick a color!
I’ve been waiting for this!!!!
me too!
Me too😂
Do a KTM group 250 shoutout (just ktm gas gas and husky) !!!
im looking start riding again on the track. how ever i am just a weekend warrior who is just having fun since i am
most def not the fastest guy around... what bike would have the best karakter for me? who can help me out?
They are all really good bikes, what kind of dealers you got locally? Pick your best dealership with good service , supply and friendly staff and buy from them whatever they sell. You'll need be happy with any of these sleds.
@@droptuned83 ktm is my local dealer, great guys as well ...but i cant buy one since dont hve any. because of the corona delay
With everything soooo good these days, it comes down to ease of basic maintenance. The Austrian bikes stand far apart from the others in that category for me. Every time I put a wrench to a Japanese bike I just feel frustrated by corner cutting or over-engineering. The components feel a little more China as well. The new Kawi had my interest peaked. They'd probably get my money if I was going to part from Austria.
Am I the only one that noticed that the Honda was a 2020 not a 2021
It’s a 2021, the new style is only out for the 450s right now. The 250s will be updated in 2022.
Jawson Lawarence 338 in the interview from the left ...lol thats him
Can you please do Tm Racing in it next time?
ktm sxf250 or crf250r? im getting one of them but cant choose, so im gonna let yall pick for me
Choose reliability always, HONDA!
Honda all the way
Honda
Easy...pick the one who makes F1 engine.
thanks for the insight bros..
Kinda confused how last year the Honda was said to have great hp and now it's underpowered??? How much more hp are these 250's making to make the Honda to lose so badly in power lmao!?
Maybe honda flattened the powerband
@@jackmasterdick my buddy bought a 21 and my 2010 pulls a lot harder then it it’s a lot more softer in power other than that feels amazing
😂😂😂😂🙌🏽
@@jackmasterdick it’s the exact same bike as 20.
@@jared6163 This explains why Yamaha got 4th in the 450 shootout ... SMH
Was waiting for this one👍🏻🔥
Is Husqvarna good fit for taller guys also ? I am 6,4 and i like the new Husky a lot. By the way great video 👍🏻
All the same size
@@romangeorge4401 yeah but the Husky is set lower than the others
@@EarthSurferUSA do you think in the next 5-10 years the seat height of a full size dirt bike will increase .5 to 1in or more?
Ok. You guys need to focus on the younger riders. My son is almost 15 and will come off a 2020 kx100 and jump on a 250. Kids fast, but I want him on the most comfortable bike in the motor department. Feedback on your opinion will help me make my decision. I’m leaning towards the Honda. But not sure. What do you think?
Lap times would have been great. Plenty of people love Honda's or whatever... and then they post faster lap times on orange. Unless you're play riding or freeriding, feel is subjective. Lap times are objective. Short shifting a Yamaha a 50 times a lap is probably slower than overrevving a Husky. Not saying this is true, but we'll never know.
Bummed you didn't test all!
With air forks, could you put nitrogen instead of air since nitrogen’s pressure doesn’t fluctuate with temperature?
Yes you can but with air you can change the pressure with a std pump. I don’t notice much change with air temp too busy jetting my Tc250
Imagine not putting Suzuki in this video
@@Tv-nv7st no they really don’t. everybody i know has never had a problem with their suzuki (including me) i’ve had my 14 rmz250 for a year and have beat the shit out of it. Regular oil changes and air filter and they’re all good bikes.
Should I get a Kx250 or a crf250 r ?
Kx
No Suzuki?
Suzuki isn’t in the country yet and their aren’t too many gasgas yet either, so all the industry figured that suzuki finished the last few years so they’d just leave it out and that ktm and husky would represent gasgas.
Again no Suzuki, no wonder they don’t sell many, they just aren’t in the game anymore!
Gas Gas is coming to the shootout next year in America
The 2021 suzuki isnt evrn on the market or made for the public yet. We have info thats all.... been waiting for the RMZ corner slaying machine
Yo read the description, Suzuki has a 2021 RMZ250 but it was not in the United States at the time they made the video! Either way it probably still would have been last because its the same as last years and last year it was last... Not hating on the Suzuki, I would gladly ride any one of these bikes!
Were is The suzuki?????
Suzuki isn’t in the country yet and their aren’t too many gasgas yet either, so all the industry figured that suzuki finished the last few years so they’d just leave it out and that ktm and husky would represent gasgas.
What this Suzuki rmz 250????????
SUZUKI FOR LIFE! Smokes them all. 💪💪💪👊👊👊
which one was first i’m confused
Missing the yellow .......... already
I’m confused who won????
If you didn't watch the whole vid , they said the Yamaha was #1 , but all bike are really good. It's more down to what you are like as a rider and what your local shop is like.
Ping in FlyRacing...? wooow...
So at the end, they said you pretty much can't go wrong and it just comes down to knowing what each bike excels at and then comparing that with your preference. Since the Suzuki isn't in the video, would I be wrong for buying one to save $500? Is it that much worse?
Edit: I just read the description & see that it WOULD'VE been there if the 2021 model was available. *ALLEGEDLY!*
So now I think for a casual trackday ride & hare scrambler who just wants a reliable bike, it could be worth $500 to just get the tried and true kickstart kooter. More research required.
Wheres the Suzuki??
Suzuki isn’t in the country yet and their aren’t too many gasgas yet either, so all the industry figured that suzuki finished the last few years so they’d just leave it out and that ktm and husky would represent gasgas.
The Kwaka has hydro clutch and is cheaper, its ALOT thinner at the shrouds, and more stable in corners, and the KYB suspension is as good as the Yamis
We are happy with our 2021 450 and 250!!!!!!!
No do not compare the suspension. Everything else might be comparable but not the suspension. Yamaha is leaps ahead in that department since like 2007
@@jedimastergrogu3140 actually they're not that far ahead now especially for the average joe it's hardly noticeable then the guys who race will revalve anyway
Ride a 2019 YZ250F and love it but picking up my new 2021 Kawasaki KX250 Saturday and can’t wait! They’re using the the same KYB forks and rear shock/suspension as the Yamaha. Yeah chassis will play a role in how the two bikes handle but based on many reviews to include AJ Cantazaro doing an 2021 YZ250F vs KX250F you can’t go wrong with either bike 👊🏼
@@midnightrider723 kudos to kawi, judging from what you guys are saying it seems like a big competitor for Yamaha next season in the 250 class. Although I take Aj cantazaro’s opinion with a grain of salt. I’ll agree
No gasgas??
Be 3 ktms in the list then lol
@@ja51onpip ya well those commie bikes rip
Please do a 125 2 stroke shoot out.
really wish u guys woulda put the gasgas in place of the suzuki😕
Honda wouldn’t be last of Suzuki was in the line😂
Honda should’ve been the best funnest bike to ride
When i get my honda crf250r i hope they fixed horse power
Do you know in all the years I have been aware of these shootouts it's never influenced what we have bought. Everyone we know agrees it's all about personal preferance the demeanor of the rider everyone throws aftermarket kit on them like pipes suspension bars etc and certainly here in my local race scene more and more people are buying older 2 strokes and totally rebuilding them and racing them. KTM probably out numbers ownership of those with new bikes by about ten to one. Just wish the industry was more open with the people who support it as well.
GASGAS?
Ping hates green….clear back to his banger days
How do they compare to a 21 yz125?
What happened to the Suzuki or do they only make 450s
They make both
They are done with MX.
The guy with the mustache is definitely not a sheep farmer
Team Yellow or Team Green.. everything else can smd
I’m a new rider looking for a bike. Any advice on which one of these bikes is best for a new rider ?
I just bought a used ktm 2014 sxf and haven't ridden it much but it is a great bike. I had a 2012 kx250f fuel injected and it was also a great bike. Can't go wrong with any of them. Could always probably test ride each at deanships.
@@jacob2483 thanks brotha I will look into that.
@@andrewjuarez8211 yeah anytime man. Once I really ride the Ktm I’ll try to let you know if I can remember. Should be soon.
Honda is the most reliable if you're going to keep the bike for several years.
Any of these bike would be fine. They are so easy to ride, and will develop with you as a rider as you get better.
Pick a colour and enjoy!
ello people should i get rmz250 or crf
where's the Suzuki?
27.27 mins that fella the orange/white humper !
Do you think I could ride a 250 four stroke I’m 6’1 and 210lbs
Aye, nae bother. I'm about the same build and have no problems
Yes you can..im 204 lbs, A level and the Honda slightly modded works just fine
You're good send it I'm 5'7
GasGas?
Wasn’t many in the country yet at the time, same with Suzuki
Kawasaki made a kx250xc for the first time in 2021....
when did valteri bottas started doing motocross reviews??
These round table shoot outs are definitely not as good as the old ones just from last to first
We all know Suzuki comes in dead last every year, so I don’t blame the manufacturer for not sending a bike to the shoot out. Ive ridden most of the other models and they are all better than Suzuki. Yamaha and Honda have awesome machines. My Kawasaki was a lot fun too. But I’m back riding Suzuki. It’s a weekend warrior, fun dirt bike and alot cheaper than the rest. It doesn’t do anything great. Smooth power band, great handling and the bike always starts.