How Much MONEY Do Landscapers REALLY MAKE ?!? 4 k
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- LETS FIND OUT!! First we will do a mid sized landscaping job and then break down the pricing. Start to Finish Paver installation, Grading, draintile and boulder wall with Pricing breakdowns and estimating help.
TAKE A GUESS WHAT THIS JOB IS WORTH! WATCH THE BUILD AND BEFORE THE BREAKDOWN STARTS- TAKE YOUR GUESS!!
That was enlightening. As a DIYer, when I start projects it's easy for me to underestimate how long it will take me and how many problems I will run into. Knowing that you charged $250 per
piece of equipment which would cost me $300 per day to rent, I wouldn't think twice about giving you the job rather than doing it myself.
I hope that you spend 3-5 minutes of every future video explaining the costs.
I was going to say $12.5k… do you add a terrorism risk surcharge in MPLS now? I grew up there.
$20,000
wow i was way off i thought the sq footage was more it looked larger than 375 sq ft. must be that fancy 4k !
I would say around $15,500
Oh man what I wouldn’t do to have been able to see this video 10yrs ago. I’m positive there’s a ton of people out there who can benefit from this kind of content you should do more.
Thanks for the feedback. I think I will. 🙏
I love this series! SO helpful for someone new to the industry! Happy Wednesday! Have a great week!
Much appreciated- Have a great Week!
I have been glued to my phone watching this. Loved it. I guessed a price and wasn't too far off. I think everyone really loved this. Thank you.😊🙏👍
very cool! Much appreciated.
Yes, please do more of the price break downs. Great video and information! Thank you for sharing Stan!
Will do!
This is helpful, this spring having a deck torn off, smaller composite installed that will step down to a paver patio, covered seating area, fireplace, and built in grill/bar. After getting over the sticker shock of our project ...what you outlined makes sense. Those little things you don't think about, equipment, disposal, electrical, gas lines, etc...adds up quickly.
Glad it was helpful. All those details take time which adds up fast like you said.
This is amazing that you’re putting this information out there!! Most people are so guarded most of the time when it comes to this .
So true!
Yes! More of these please. This type of video has helped me immensely in my landscaping business. That, and it keeps me from being “Chuck with a truck”. Thanks Stan!
You got it!
@@Dirtmonkey Thanks again Stan. I was hoping to run into you at the GIE last week to tell you thanks for all your help in person, but our paths never crossed. God Bless
You are by far, the best landscape construction channel I've seen so far.
Please keep sharing the cost breakdowns. Very helpful for those of us getting started. Not just to understand our numbers better but for the confidence to stand behind them when bidding jobs.
You got it!
I am a carpenter that just started my own company about 8 months ago. Your videos are one of the main reasons I decided to start my own company. Very rewarding! Thanks so much for all your insight!
Thanks David and best of luck with the new Business 👊👍
@@Dirtmonkey hey Stan, Im a Landscaper out in MA, down on Cape Cod. Would you be comfortable discussing with me what some of your labor costs? I'm just getting started with my own business and I noticed that the price of the jobs that you are quoting are spot on with what it would be out here. So I'd be interested to know what kind of ranges you routinely see when dealing with guys. Obviously each situation is different but I'd still like to hear from you on the subject
For example: what kind of hourly do or would you look to pay for a guy with literally no experience?
How about someone with journeyman-type experience (a few years exp but still has PLENTY to learn)? What if said guy had no license?
Would you even hire a guy with little to no experience and no license?
What would you expect to pay crew leaders? Or crew leaders with no license?
@@jacobdaus3835 massive variables on what you people pay v their skill set. I am in similar position to you. It’s super hard working out what is fair. My advise, get good guys, pay them more, charge more money, have better tools, better work, better life etc. I’ve been going ten years, for last 5 I’ve had people working for me.
@@jacobdaus3835 it sounds like you have a good heart. Must remember we get into business to make money and although we would like to customer to be happy we cannot sacrifice any part of our objectives settling for Less.
If you know beyond the reasonable doubt that a non-experienced person wants to learn is willing to do so at a lower rate that's fine but only limited to one person.
Getting good help that are knowledgeable about safety, various plants, trees and seeds, local ordinance is exceptionally valuable! One mistake can cost the loss of a client and other clients as people like to complain more than reward.
Best of luck
I keep thinking about it. But going from an office to landscaping is somewhat scary.
Great vid Stan. I really enjoyed this series and would love to see more of job break down videos. I have been landscaping for about 8 months and I really enjoy it. God Bless
You got it. Have an awesome week and see you on Friday.
I loved the final breakdown of the price. As a home owner, if I ever want something like this done, I know what to expect. My initial estimate when looking at the patio was around $5,000. After watching the video I realize there's more to it than laying down some bricks.
problem is you might find someone for $5,000 that JUST lays down the bricks without all the other steps.
that is the most AWESOME patio I've ever seen, Stan you and your crew do amazing work!
mannn i dont have a plow yet but watching ure videos made me go out and do scrap metal runs all day still saving for a western plow thanks for all the inspirational videos
you can do it! I saved a long time for my first plow.
@@Dirtmonkey definitely my own question that i need to ask you is i bought a rear wheel drive truck i know 4x4 id ideal have you ever had to run a rear wheel drive plow truck if i had more money id buy a 4x4 whats your opinion maybe you could make a short video on plowing in rear wheel drive just a short clip and some tips would help alot of people out have an amzing day
I had to watch it twice just so I didn't miss anything. Yes very helpful video and educational, breaking down the numbers. Yes please more videos with price break down.🙏
Thank you- Glad you liked it!
very helpful, we currently don't do any heavy landscaping but might look into it more on our down time. we just normally find stuff on the farm todo if we aren't mowing. SW MN
Enjoy the videos !!!
Glad it was helpful! and thanks for tuning in!
We charge roughly the same rates in Silicon Valley California.
I charge a 20% markup for curves.
Paver installation $16 front yards, $18 back. Plus $8.50 for excavation or concrete demo.
Here suppliers don't accept returns, so any paver purchased is charged to the job.
Please keep making these video's of you breaking them down! Helps someone like me that just started my business!!
Very helpful and informative. Especially for a new...ish business owner of a small excavation business. Thank you!
Love to hear it! Thanks Kelli & God bless 😊
Keep 'em coming Stan. The pricing breakdown was very informative. Thank You !
Grateful you’re here bud 👊
Just looking at getting into small hardscaping. This was very helpful and would love to see more videos like this. I also appreciate the size and price range of this job. Definitely something the majority could do!
Yes please break down more jobs
These are my favorite videos
Thanks Stan
God bless you and your family 🙏
Glad you like these.
Man,talk about working hard for your money. Amazing to watch!! Thanks 😊.
Ya got it 👊👍
Plus 1 fan here! Well thought and made video! Kudos to the creator's hard work to bring us awesome video to watch!
Much appreciated!
work for a hardscapes company in Kansas City and i do all the installing. our pricing is really dependent on what materials they choose. that patio you just did would go up in price with a unilock or techo bloc paver. we also pour a concrete base for all of our paver patios
You pour a concrete base? interesting. Are you in a frost zone? I would worry about that cracking and breaking up unless its a thick pour which would add into the project cost.
@@Dirtmonkey pour our bases 3-4” thick….air entrained 4,000 psi mix with small fiber.
Thanks for sharing the video. I very much appreciate you sharing you price model I find this very helpful as a person just starting to do projects like this. Please do more videos like this.
Gotchu brother thanks for the feedback 👊
Top notch as always. Great video and good looking patio. You guys rock!
Thanks again!
I loved this, made the breakdown on pricing easy to understand. the only thing I was a bit fuzzy on was the stone still palleted. Is this an agreement that you as the contractor and the stone distributor have before delivery is taken? But loved this series and can't wait for the next video. Stay safe!
No agreement- but its how we work. If we have a little left over still palletized and easily re-used- or returned we do
love the breakdown!!! We got snow !!! Would love your snow plowing breakdown!!!! Hope you got to check out the loon video ! Thanks again!
Great video DM, very interesting, love watching. Great job !
Much appreciated sir and thanks for tuning in. Thats a Taryl fixes all picture- are you part of that channel in some way?
@@Dirtmonkey No I am not associated with Tarly . I learn from his channel as I do from yours. You guys are great.
Great breakdown of job.
Glad you think so 👍
Awesome video. Just my opinion, landscape designs/installs should really include raingardens so that rain water does not have to be moved off the property as run off. Its a precious resource that if directed and used properly could boost the aesthetics of the job and most importantly the ecological functioning of the space.
Can’t argue with ya there! Love you’re thinking 👊
thanks stan that did help makes sense and you can explain to the client what they are getting for their money
Glad it helps
Awesome info! The breakdown is very nice to hear. I was looking for you at GIE!
Glad it was helpful!
Love this kind of video as a owner of a landscape business in Utah. Can you make a detailed video about finding the lines and slopes for paver jobs? Patio, driveway etc.
the formula we use is 1 inch of drop per 8 feet of run.
These are so helpful please make more
Yes I would like more Video's like this. I have been charging a hourly rate. People around here get freaked out. Then I tell them I have Insurance, Truck, Tractor, payments. Then I would like pay for me. They think I am ripping them off. The reason being there are people in the area that work for less. I am One guy just trying to get by. They think my price is high this year wait till 2022. If Gas prices keep going up!!!
I think a good landscaper should make as much as a good mechanic on an hourly basis
Thanks for sharing your "rates". Some people in our industry are so afraid to talk $. Like your gonna steal a job from them. I have tried to engage with other yard guys and just get the ol stink eye, or brushed off. BUT!, the few that I get to open up too, we now share bid prospects and even pass jobs off to each other. Yes we are the little guys, but we stay busy doing our thing and helping each other out. Kinda sad that some can't see the benifits of truly networking.
Great point. You and the other "little"guys together will have an advantage
How are you? More bidding please. Have a great week stan!!!
Love your vidoes!!!!!!
More to come! Thank you and have an awesome week bud!
That looks like such a fun job.
Please keep doing these kind of videos I really take a lot out of them!
I guessed 10k range. But I have zero experience with patios, minus your breakdowns, and actually installing them. I'm on the prep side of backyard transformations right now. I'm the first in to cut the property in most cases. BUT... I'd love to expand my business to tackle a few patios and such. The only thing I don't want to do is cut grass again. I'm beyond burnt out on that part.
Yes- cutting grass gets old once you have started putting in hardscapes. What I mean is hardscape installation offers a unique set of challenges on each site. Which means you are always experiencing something new, fresh. Cutting grass is more repetetive. Which is good for many people- but not me.
@@Dirtmonkey I started a neighborhood lawn service with a go cart and a home built trailer at 10 years old. It grew to 7 guys and 2 trucks along with my truck, tractors, and equipment. I sold the lawn service off and kept with the tractor work for that reason. Now I've been getting requests for more hard scapes, walls, paths, etc. I'm gaining as much information as possible until a client works with me and understands that it's my first time for a client. They'll get a super discount on the labor and I'll gain hands on experience.
@@Dirtmonkey for me it's creating beautiful artwork and functionality. God bless.
This is an excellent video !!
Should use an inch to one and one half inches of 1/4" Chip Stone ontop of your (compacted and graded) A-gravel, and use bars as well as a variety of levels to grade your pavers with. Super fast, accurate and level. You can pack down your pavers afterwards with a rubber mat attachment on your tamper as well to flatten and even everything out before you sand with polymeric.
Using sand under pavers isn't very efficient because it washes away over time, leaving low spots everywhere after about 2 to 3 years, even sooner if you're in an area with lots of rain throughout the year or an area with snow and frost during winter season.
In Oz, your down pipes must direct rain water into a stormwater system (street gutter, pipes, etc). Piping all that water to your foundations, strange.
It gets piped to the bacl of the property- not the foundation. Thats why we dug that long trench
Kool: I just see so many down pipes in the US stop at the ground, right next to the house. It is against code in OZ, so cannot be done (theoretically). Even the pipe to colle tor box to flex pipe... we go with pvc from gutter to curb.
Imagine needing council for any fill/cut higher/lower than 300mm. I'm surprised we can now OUR lawns without permits-probably on its way.
Beautiful patio work.
Thank you very much!
Stan like the drain boxes below the downspouts I do that when I can get away with it but some twp require to have a y pipe with clean out I don’t like black corrugated pipe had to many problems with tree roots growing through the pipe always use SDR 35 👍
We like how flexible it is but also use the hardpipe for other style drains.
That was very helpful Stan. Keep the video coming
Thanks, will do!
What a great video. Yes please do more videos like this. I learned a lot from just this one.
Chicago public bidding is in the 20 to 35% gross margin, while working as an estimator in another area of the country I was getting 45 to 65% gross margin. Large jobs (up to $5 million) where still in the 50% gross margins. Control of your labor expenses, your largest single expense is key to making money.
So correct!
Great video. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Great video but something to point out in the uk we would have the disc cutter going opposite direction as not to possibly damage windows if any chips came off block paving while cutting them
As a business owner knowing the per unit numbers is crucial both for inputs and outputs.
It for sure is and your labor costs associated with that
Great video Stan 🇺🇲
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks Stan!!!
😄👊
Great pair of vids. More like this.
Thank you- will do
Great informative video and usual🤙
We are in North Bay, Ontario 🇨🇦
And we would come in at around the same price
God Bless🤙
Right on! Good to know we are in the same ballpark.
I would love to see lots more videos about bidding & self worth on a job.
Hey man, weird question but where do you get your pants from that you always wear? Love the look of them and they look extremely durable for outdoor work
fjall raven
Good stuff Stan 👍
Thanks 👍
I can’t believe your guys are cutting those pavers dry without water. The risk of inhaling that dust is REAL.
They have on face masks and are blowing the dust out of the work area.
@@Dirtmonkey I wasn’t actually referring to your guys since they always work safe. It was more about the cloud that gets blown out as a result. I work in more densely populated areas though so I’m just super conscious of it.
Was there a guidline for that cut that we could not see or was he free handing it. If he was, that's remarkable precision to make it that even.
Looks great nice video. God bless brother.
Thanks for watching
Yes. We would love to see more. I would like to see more mowing trimming job pricing breakdowns.
You got it!
Thanks Stan! Love these vids
My pleasure!
Please do brake some more of these jobs down for us I found this video extremely interesting. I might want to go in grading when I get out of high school and open my own grading company.
👍😃
Thank you appreciate this ☝️😁
Excellent.
$25/sf with your crew's attention to detail.... Can you guys come to San Diego for a few weeks?
Im thinking prices in San Diego would be considerably higher. These are midwest prices.
@@Dirtmonkey I recently got $85/sf quote. That’s why I’m here learning from you 😬
Stan can you do a break down in the future on a medium size fill/level and grade job. I’m curious what a fair price would be to do a job I have in mind
I will start to include more info on my videos. Appreciate the feedback.
Stanley I would be more interested in knowing how you work out your pricing to cover your new machinery costs. We all know about the consumable items as in grease fuel. But incorporating all this to include your profit margins. Thank you.
Aussie Jeff Moore
I was thinking about doing that in a an upcomig video.
@@Dirtmonkey your a very intuitive soul stay safe. Aussie Jeff
You can know your own worth but if your prospective customers don't you don't get to work. It's why a 1/4 acre lot is $30 and hasn't gone up for years in my area and a 1/2 acre lot goes to $35. I have switched off of focusing on mowing because of this. When you can aerate a lawn for $125 put in the same amount of time and you are dealing with customers That actually care about their lawns and willing to pay to make them look nice.
well said.
I think you should enter the consulting business, and just go wherever to tell people what to know, what to look for, and how to get the right people.
I think I can help a larger number of people through videos. Hopefully, maybe.
Excellent information! Beginners question: do those pavers come randomly mixed like this or do you have to ask the stone guy to mix them up a certain way? Also can you just lay them in any order?
Those are a random pattern so we pull off the different pallets and mix them as we go.
Unless you special order your pavers mixed for use with a paver installing machine, your going to get pavers of like sizes per pallet. Other point is to mix up pallets of pavers so color lots blend in. Nothing worse than a paver patio with off colors, as paver manufacture mixes old lots with new lots.
yep- Very good point.
Thank you
Welcome!
Out here in Florida guys are charging 7-25$ sf 🤣….. I really like to get 12-15$ for walkways patios
20$&up for driveways
Obviously price varies with works , brick choice etc
But there’s too many guys out here doing cheap work
12-15$ just for labor or including materials? Thanks
For most flat work with basic pavers we charge $25 sq. ft.
Im right there with you
I'm at $25sqft too for most jobs, but with mostly mega arbel patios going in.
Big like!! Awesome presentation 👊😎 Returning viewer here!
Big thanks and glad to have you on board!
Oh wow, wish we could have same pricing in Toronto, ON. Doing estimates same way, but the price starts at $15 per sf
Nice job Stan. This is very interesting how you described the breakdown of the end-user pricing. Do you charge an additional percentage for profit beyond this estimate? Allows for a little fudge factor and additional profit to invest into the company's growth. Thanks for the video Stan...
This breakd won is pretty much what the customer would be charged plus tax
How much do you have to pay your guys to work for you on average? I'm a landscape contractor here in Wisconsin and we have to pay more and more every year, and now people wont even show up!!
I keep my wages private but I pay them well and respect them more than anything else.
Please can we have some more like this.
Can you please explain how to bid snow plowing/ removal
can do!
Can you do a video more on pricing finish grading? Thanks!
Sure thing!
CAN YOU MAKE AN UPDATE ON THE RETAINING WALLS PRICES ? THANKS FOR SHARING WITH US!
I called Brycen at sno power he sent me the vid weird day at work 😁
glad he hooked you up with the video
Could you you do some bids break downs for commercial snow plowing using LMN?
I have one in the works now on bidding snowplowing.
Hey man can't find where you get back blade cutting edges I remember a video you made I think for a short iron thank much!
its in the video- weird day at work
~~ I would've guessed closer to perhaps $16K? So that's pretty fair&they're getting what they paid for too. I'd include fuel as well especially w/jobs miles away&within reason like 30% of $ per gallon x miles roundtrip?
~~ What find interesting is every so often see a customer who maybe assumed the job would perhaps take,say,at least 7 days? You finish it up nice&tight even better than one might normally get in 3 or 4 days? Instead of being pleased w/it being finished that much sooner? They'd rather accuse&think you're ripping them off somehow simply because you finished sooner than they thought it'd take???
Yep- I have had them complain about us getting their project done to fast. No joke and they have been pissed. Pissy people will always find something wrong- including doing their work to good to fast. trolls are everywhere.
Should be 20k with inflation of labor, materials and equipment costs but I guarantee it isn't more than that...
it probably will be that much with the way things are going
An I always wondered why I saw the boxes instead of direct connection but here in Atlanta I still don't know why they do it🤷
Now you know why they do it up north. But atlanta has some freezing days- ie you get snow.
Thank you! For the "restoration" portion of the project do you reseed grass in the spring, elect for sod, or limit reseeding restorations until the fall?
Awesome job!
Is the $11-18 per lineal foot for the drain tile just for corrugated pipe and not pvc right
Maybe I’m missing something here but why did they start that radius cut with the big saw and then switch to the smaller saw? Wouldn’t the smaller saw have produced the same results?
The smaller saw lets them get a tighter cut without doing the bulk of it.
Another great informational video please keep it up! Two questions, first compared to last years prices how mush has your costs gone up because of COVID? Second, I understand charging to grade the land around the project but do you charge for returning the access area to the job site back to the way it was before you started?
Yes- we don't include restoration in our flat rate patio prices. That is all additional.
Great video
Thank you!
Very informative nice
Thanks for liking it👊
Cool I just saved myself 5k minimum with $25/ square foot and 300 sq feet of pavers