Gil's Arena Debates The Bigger Star - Wemby or Caitlin?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Gil's Arena Battles Over Basketball's BIGGEST Rookie as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew debate who will have the bigger impact between Victor Wembanyama & Caitlin Clark when the dust settles on their rookie seasons. While many think the Iowa phenom is already changing the WNBA thanks to her Nike deal & popularity, Gil argues that the 2 superstars are NOWHERE CLOSE when it comes to roles in changing the game.
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If women themselves watched the WNBA, the media rights would bring in a boatload of money. Women need to support women's sports if they want female athletes to be better valued
nobody wants to watch those butches play ball.
Facts like if women actually watched or supported the wnba they would have nba salaries forsure but they don’t even support they own ppl
Exactly. I'm tapped out on sports. I don't have time for the wnba. I'll watch a few Caitlin games, but if she's not cooking like that I'm out
We been trying to tell them that now they finally seen it and still won't support them
Angel's impact in the wnba may be bigger than Caitlin's because her inflence may attract more women to watch and attend games which will cause more men to watch and attend. Angel showing girls that its cool to be a girly girl and still hoop.
Gil keeps calling the Washington Mystics the Washington Wizards. 😂
🤣🤣
And dude played for the Wizards too LMAO he knows damn well she don't play on the team he used to play for. At some point it was clearly intentional to piss off Lexie
@@tommyjones6866or he used to sayin the wizards lol. It’s like when the skins changed to the commanders. We still called em the redskins outta habit.
I'm just mad cuz nobody knows his name he's retired and washed up he had his 15 minutes of fame and over with I will I don't remember him having a sneaker deal
@@MarkHarper-ek8sshas a deal with adidas, that’s why he’s always repping Adidas
Caitlin Clark has 2.1 million Instagram followers..A'ja Wilson has less than 900K..of course Caitlin is gonna have a signature shoe.
Clark’s game is appealing aja and a lot these other females respectfully play like girls👎🏿Chelsea gray juju Watkins Simone Augusta Cynthia cooper Diana play like dudes🔥💪🏿
And Wemby has 4 MILLION FOLLOWERS
@@terrenceboone5206Wemby was 3rd in social media highlights right behind Steph and Lebron. Some clown said Luka and Jokic are more popular lol.
@@takeover5478they both are white
And? Who said 2.1 million was the standard threshold to get a shoe deal. Some of you say the silliest shit. Angel Reese has 3 million, now what?
You can see the anger in Lexie’s eyes when she hears Caitlyn Clark’s name😂
Caltlin is not a Goat
Not true
@@bobby12348she will be eventually 🤡🤡🤡✌
Gill face at the end was like ya fuck this conversation 😂
Anytime Lexi face is on the thumbnail I know she on some shit 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
And today it was some bullshit😂
just another woman disagreeing with facts because of her feelings
@@mikedison7081exactly!!!!
@@AnDiMsOfLypretty much!!!
She complaining about comparing the NBA to WNBA but don’t mind comparing salaries
It’s about marketing which crazy considering Lexi went to Duke
Lexi realizes that the WNBA is not putting in the work. But expects the revenue to increase not putting in the work
@@GradyBrown-i3mthis is why I can’t respect people who defend the WNBA. They literally CONTRADICT themselves… every. Single. Time.
@@TobiramaSenju212 true
This woman speaks in circles the moment she says it's not an anomaly I know she didn't know what she was talking about😂😂😂
Lexie kept thinkin Gil was bashin Clarke and women when he said they "dropped the ball" by not always having her shoe ready but he wasn't. He was sayin NIKE dropped the ball... And he's saying they been dropping it by not learning yet.
She was right they’ve never done this for any NBA player. She just took it a little too personal
exactly, I think by then she was mad and not listening
Clark**
What was the NBA after the first 20 years?
@@JoyrdRaisedMeBecause no other WNBA has popped like this
Cause she know he right
Gil is speaking from being a parent of teenagers. He’s telling the podcast that youth can garner more eyes in the product due to the overwhelming number that a kid fanbase will bring. Lexi is speaking very protectively of the WNBA due to the lack of respect that has been delivered to them up until recently.
Gil is just wrong lol. Catlin was getting bigger views than any college or nba ganes were getting.
@@SamuelMills-ez4jo Wemby added 500 million to a storied franchise. Out of the gate it’s not the same tier of conversation. Breanna Stewart won 4 of 4 NCAA Women’s Basketball Championships. Gil isn’t wrong in his assessment from the view of a parent of teenagers in real time. He’s literally being told by them their preferences. The information he gave is also available online. Yall just want Caitlin to be viewed like Lebron when, in actually, she’s just a bucket. We’ve seen those before.
They just want female to be equally on whatever a men does
@@hyaashiredd Turns out he was wrong.
@@eroccha I disagree heavily
The MYSTICS!!! 😂😂 that came from the depths of her soul lol
Wemby has an international presence. It’s gonna be hard to match.
Lexie so upset that anything Gilbert say pisses her off. she can’t even debate
Got mad at my man because he said Nike failed to capture the biggest marketing moment 😅😂
Like Norm Macdonald said. The next wnba game I watch will be the first wnba game I watch.
Lmao!
But guess what, you will watch
But guess what your corny 💀
@@cosmicinsight3255and *YOU’RE a retard so I guess it even out 💀💀
@@cosmicinsight3255 gotem
Lexie attitude is what's wrong with the WNBA. Gil was a superstar and a franchise player, we didn't know Lexie until the pod because we don't watch the W like that, hence the reason he might know more than her how this work
Facts.
And her pops was in the league,,still had no clue about her
She doesn’t have an attitude lol. They were having a debate and she shared her insight/thoughts. Just because Gilbrick was a franchise player for a bit doesn’t mean he’s always right (as we’ve seen plenty of times). Gilbrick has an attitude when people don’t agree with him as you can see when Cole disagreed. On another note, I watch the WNBA (been a fan since day 1 since I like ball) and knew her from her Duke days.
Superstar?
@@christopherchilton8931she’s not gonna go out with you relax
Wemby’s Nike contract is rumoured to be 100M and if it’s true, its the biggest rookie shoe deal ever, and he got that contract even before he was drafted.
That’s only 10m more than the gave a hs kid in 03, kinda weird actually
@@AdamEdnlebrons rookie deal back then is worth 200m+ now if it was offered
Lexie been emotional since Gil said she was shaking elbows and knees 😂😂😂
lol what does he mean by that?
Gil is right about Nike’s marketing team dropping the ball on not launching Kaitlin’s signature shoe on the day of the draft…It would have definitely sold out a few minutes into the draft
💯a lot of people rocked the Sabrina kicks🔥🔥🤙🏿
She's going to play in the Olympics
Does his opinion and that's your opinion they never did it before it is what it is the bottom line is the other girl ain't got no shoe good Caitlin Clark does that's how it should be😮
ain't no men buying them shoes, LOL. women hardly wear basketball shoes. they are doing this for the coverage.
crazy & it seems like such a no brainer to have done that
Wemby is international… and Clark is national. She not going to pull Wemby’s numbers internationally or nationally also Wemby got Louis Vuitton on his side as well.
I would think your reason is why Clark may have more of an impact in the us we tend to like to watch American born players now I agree she may not make an impact internationally even tho the game is more watched overseas seas than here “atleast for now” but Clark is such a wildcard now there’s no telling till the end of her season
@@SLIMDIESAL23 I’m happy for this comment I was waiting for someone to talk about me saying I don’t even watch the women’s game but in retrospect I love watching the WNBA my favorite player was Maya Moore I have her Lynx Jersey and all but I feel like the international game is growing in the Women side of things. So hopefully she grows but I feel like the number 3 draft pick will grow the game internationally and nationally.
you would be surprised how big she is in the french and filipino community
Forget money. The NBA has been world wide for years. It's Caitlyn because there's simply more impact to make.
@@killzzzz_I'm french born & live in Paris, nobody cares about Caitlyn Clark & the WNBA...
Forbes reported that Wemby added 500M to the franchise he will be drafted in. Just now, NBA posted the top-selling jerseys this season and Wemby is top 4 overall. He is top 2 in jersey sales in Europe. And the Spurs are even in the top 10 franchise’ merch sales this season.
I’m guessing Caitlyn Clark will do the same if not better for her team, but there’s levels to this. It’s easier to make an impact in a small pond, compared to the ocean.
They making gil sound smart as hell. The nba is not a finished product or you would start it in your prime. What was gainnis, jokic, embiid etc when they first got drafted. Not half the players they are now. Your prime comes a few years after being drafted that’s why they want them as young as possible
Shoes are about popularity Lexie. wtf are you talking about?😂
She argues using emotion everytime
That's why Shaq shoe didn't sell well and he was popular and dominant at his time.
@@donaldpowell6725actually it did , his shoes are just cheap , they were in every Walmart , Payless, target
@@visualvandal3986 Yes, I know. I speaking at the time of his prime.
She doesn’t know what she’s talking about. She is showing typical energy when it’s something toward women. When in reality he’s talking about the brand and not the WNBA players.
End of Lexi is coming 😂
*fingers crossed* 😂
She is bland. Get Sue Bird, plum, or Cheryl Miller.
Gil is wrong and Norris Cole is trying to tell him.
😂😂😂 at this point I'd rather hear Miko
@@stanleed.harold5457yea Plum or Skyler Diggins would be legendary
lexi embodies emotional fragility
I'd still hit
Lol we need to give arenas credit for his patience 😂😂
The fact that Wemby is from France and was a household name. Wemby has/had the bigger impact.
The fact that people actually watched college basketball and probably the WNBA is crazy!!! Ricky Rubio was a household name before he came…
@@msgentertainment2478 Ricky Rubio was not on the level of Wemby
@@samueldotson2809 I 100% agree. My point is that just being from overseas and being a household name doesn’t explain Wemby’s impact enough. Caitlyn has had the biggest IMPACT. Wemby had the biggest hype ( rightfully so)
Hype is not impact. Wemby was a hyped up player like many that came before him, Clark is responsible for the highest rated basketball games in 6 years. Where they end up is yet to be seen but Wemby is nowhere close to the impact Clark has had so far.
@@JoePesos honestly Angel is who had the impact. Nobody knew Carlin until Angel gave her a taste of her own medicine. That’s when the media hype took off.
Lexi is a hater. She tries so hard not to seem like one, but you clearly tell it’s in her heart.
Lexie is a whole KAREN
😂😂😂😂
Dude the wemby effect FLOWS through the city of San Antonio everything is growing 10x the speed since wemby 😊
Gill right . Lexie acting like gill don’t got his own shoe
Gil is wrong. Overseas they turn pro at 15.
And don’t nobody buy his shoes 😂😂😂😂
@@bighoodie5326 speak for yourself
@@bighoodie5326cap lmao 😂😂😂
@@stanleed.harold5457 so Gill is right lol. Overseas probably have a better system for the players to help them develop. if you watch most of these new overseas players like Giannis, Luka, and Wemby, Most of them already have the pro experience overseas playing against full-grown men at a young age and the pro attitude. So it is almost a typical day in the office when they get drafted by the NBA at 18-21. They are ready to put in the work. Lamelo came to the NBA with pro experience at 19
You can't compare Caitlyn to Wemby and then get mad when someone compares the NBA to the WNBA.
Seems like y'all only want the comparisons when it benefits you and then cry when they don't
😂😂🎉
Its women bro yes they can 😭😭
Because they are arguing about impact. The difference is that one impacts the whole league . The other impacts a team. Obviously the one that improves everyone instead of just a small market has the bigger impact.
What a valid point right here...
@@kennethsmith6367incorrect. You do realize by Wemby being French an international market now follows the Spurs, but has to support the NBA as a result. NBA League Pass subscriptions, jersey sales, game attendance… All of this leads to more eyeballs which the NBA will charge advertisers and tv networks to broadcast their games nationally more frequently. If you think about it really it’s not a fair comparison because of the establishment that the NBA is.
lets stop it wemby is known worldwide i guarantee every basketball fan around the world knows wemby i still know americans who dont know who caitlin clark is she may move the needle but she not bigger than wemby.
ps this is not sexist this is just honesty
And she’s already peaked in popularity, Wemby is basically just getting started.
Facts
@@takeover5478 I AINT EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT😭🫡
The fact that you had to add the ps at the end shows the problem. Folks are too emotional
He from France no shit they know him outside of the US..
John Wall’s shoe was available on draft day, right after he got drafted there was a shoe commercial
Gil it’s great having this platform thx. Take your time putting your premises together.
It’s not even close. Wemby is international. He will be a superstar
Known about wemby since he was 15 16 yrs of age.
I’m good off Lexi on this show. At first she was refreshing after the Miko fiasco, but now she just comes off as either hating or making everything a personal attack. I’m not tryna hear her takes anymore man
Keep women off male shows period we don’t care what they think when it comes to men sports
Nah fr 🤣
so dont watch? u wont be missed?
@@ilykepink nah you might have to stop watching and find her somewhere else because theres a growing consensus that this girl is a straight up Biiiiatch.
@ilykepink. He's exactly right. Stop lashing out with insecurity and not even denying what he said, because you know he's right.
Cole always agree with Lexie 🤣
He's trying to smash 😅
He a simp
My boi tryna hit lol
😆
Always i just noticed that😂
Gil is crazy funny. He casually near the end said: "I don't know nothing about marketing!" 😂😂😂😂
The fact this is even a discussion is the proof Caitlin is having bigger impact. When have we ever debated a female in any convo with a stud Male player..... it's all relative. But she will have a bigger impact on her much smaller sport than Wemby will on his already super established one.
Mark my words, Lexi will be the reason why Gilbert and the rest of the fellas get canceled this year. Anytime someone critiques the WNBA she turns it into a personal attack/bowling situation. They will get canceled.
Not sure about canceled but I agree that it could hurt their show’s performance
Naw cause all Gil has to do is no longer talk about the WNBA and the problem is solved. He had an NBA show, so that’s all they have to talk about.
He’s done far worse, lol and came back from it
@@TheDirtyBucket facts I sometimes agree with her about 80% of what she says, but then when it comes to the WNBA, she turns into a disingenuous individual. She fits her own narrative into a narrative that didn’t need her own narrative in the first place.
@@howarddickersonjr.6994 I actually agree with you on that. Lexi has issues anytime when someone is trying to give advice to help the WNBA. It’s like when ice cube offered Kaitlyn Clark $5 million for only eight games and two postseason games. Lexi was offended by that and it had nothing to do with her.
Became a Lexi fan after the shootout and she just seemed legit cool. But now it's so clear she's just a biased bitter jealous WNBA player trying to cut a younger person down. Disappointing really
I think Aja Wilson will have a shoe. In that Nike event where they revealed Wemby’s prototype shoe, there are also shoe prototypes for other athletes like Mbappe and Shacarri Richardson. Aja Wilson also has a shoe prototype in that event. Wemby and Aja’s shoes are actually the most normal-looking ones compared to the rest.
Nike probably thinking put Clark on promo tour, where she’s promoting her shoes signing autographs taken pictures, more sales, ppl are buying her shoes, jerseys t-shirts whatever, better marketing if C.Clark starts her shoe promotion in Lowa the amount of fans would be crazy
its wemby and its not close
Dude has a whole assss Louis Vuitton deal 😂
@@whatitdomyhighpointofview3924 clark is more famous then him .. period ..
Everyone knows this,but everything has to be Walter Disney and hype
@@thegoatudontknowno she not.
cap
"NBA is different from the W"......but one's money is used to sustain the other one
It’s easier to make an impact in a small pond compared to an ocean. WNBA is a small pond in comparison to the NBA. But the WNBA now have the chance to expand that pond with this new draft class, they just have to do a great job at marketing everyone. Create narratives and make rivalries, because the drama is what makes people watch and it will keep people interested.
I’ve been Lexi is talking the truth. People have to be patient and give the WNBA time they’re not at the level of drafting women out of high school we’re trying to push them to where the NBA and it’s just not time, the WNBA is on the right trajectory and every time we try to speed it up I think that’s what hurts the game. The women are talented and time goes on. The league will be filled with multiple great players let’s just fall back and let the course, play out.
Gil’s right again
Fuck no 😂
His take was dumb.
Of course he is right, and it is even more so with the women's game because half of them want to have kids, which cut careers short in their primes. They need to get in the W as soon as possible.
Nike gave Caitlyn clark $20m lost 2 championship 😂
@@breonmitchell2443matters none ain’t nobody watch mya Moore Brianna Stewart Candace Parker non of them broads😜
I agree with Gil on this. He’s talking business and growing the brand. It’s not ridiculous that A’Ja doesn’t have a shoe. She is a phenomenal basketball player, but from a business aspect is she putting butts in seats or bringing views to the screen.
Exactly! Caitlin and Angel she did record number while in college!
Fax think about this Wembanyama’s already getting a signature shoe it took a lot of players a couple years into their career to even get their first signature shoe I mean Steph Curry it took him like 7 years to get a signature shoe he didn’t really get a signature shoe until his team was dominating and he rose with popularity some players that are popular get shoes /endorsements early
This is the kind of thing that happens when the professional journalist is removed from talk shows and its just the athletes. Only ONE does any homework on the topics at all, and everyone else is just stammering along for the rest of the segment. No one in the room was ready to have a meaningful discussing with Gil on this at all
There is some truth to that. Moderators and journalist do clean up a television shows flow abit
I mean Gil himself is one of the ppl you’re talking about. I genuinely feel like the ppl that always co-sign Gil has a brain the size of a peeble and if you’re one of em then hey 🤣🤷🏾♂️
And you really ain’t pay attention to the video cause cole was giving good answers and Gil really wasn’t trynna go back and forth with Cole
Big facts!! I think about this shit all the time when arguments like this happen on sports podcasts! It’s why I get so mad at Josiah because they’ll be arguing numbers and his ass is sitting there with the computer not looking shit the fuck up!!
@@li_moody0038yeah that’s true for Gil at time too but Gill is actually willing to look shit up or a lot of times already knows the numbers whereas everyone else especially McCants’ dumbass gets mad when Gil brings up numbers or facts! So it’s not that people always agree with Gil but he’s not afraid to provide actual evidence! Lexie didn’t attempt to look up shit lol she basing her shit off of being in the WNBA which only takes you but so far in these discussions!
Nice conversation and no one speaking over everyone else 👌🏽
So we acting like Wemby don’t have a whole country behind him and everybody in the states knows this kid is great. He’s only going to international superstar
Most basketball fans in the world know him
He is black!!!! Like when Britney Spears grabbed his arm and his security pushed her off that was a problem with white media! It don't matter where he is from they still see a NIGGA!! just like Eminem.. White media say he is the goat of rap😂😂 look at the Travis haircut white media said he made that when black men been doing since the 70s... White media will white wash the sheep!!!
He is not great. His stats are average. He is 7 ft 4, he should be average 28 points not 19.
@@Michael-of6zf stfu idiot he’s a rookie and clearly you don’t watch basketball b*tch he already having great performances against elite competition
@@Michael-of6zf not great ? Did you even watch any of the spurs games ? Lol
What people are not understanding is that no one cares about great players of the past or other great current players. This is a business. Whoever moves product and attract eyeballs gets a shoe.
They keep trying to shoe horn in other players when talking about Caitlin Clark or JuJu Watkins. This ain't about talent, this is about popularity. This would be like when Bird, Magic, and Jordan came into the league, and people kept talking about Wilt, Bill and Oscar or let's talk about Kareem and Pistol Pete they're great too. Embrace the players that can elevate the paper of everyone and lean into it like the NBA did with Jordan.
this episode dropped before the episode when Lexi addressed what Gil's talking about with the fanbases of young stars. The WNBA has always been the place rookies go to die. Clark and her draft class are the first bunch of rookies that got starting spots. WNBA players lose their fans when they are lost on the bench their first years in the league.
Being on “Gil’s Arena” and challenging Gil’s knowledge on marketing is incredible
Naming a show after yourself doesn’t make you a marketing genius my guy lol.
It’s named after him because he is the biggest draw on the show which is the marketability of the show, she has platform because of his notoriety
@@ConcernedXGamerhe literally marketed hisself to get more money from a shoe brand.
Gil's right there's a couple of women's college basketball players that are better than The W players but have to wait 3-4 yrs. to play get the talent early + Gil funny AF saying he's not a good at marketing 😂😂
Lol going to the WNBA is a demotion Caitlin and Angel went from making millions to a office job salary
6:08 Given JuJu's success, could she be a 1 & done type of player?
Kobe in the g league is crazy 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Imagine if they had KG, Kobe, LeBron and Dwight wasting a year in college let alone three lol. They were gambles but were ready at 18 and not to mention the many one and dones
League was built up already, they can afford to gamble on high school talent.
I appreciate u for mentioning Dwight. Some people act like he wasn’t one of the greatest players to come out of high school
I loved that Gil stated that simple fact....I gotta buy one for my daughter.
Where's MCcants when you need him. WNBA doesn't need 1 and done.
She gets too triggered
It’s a debate😑
She is a wnba player, how would you feel if someone kept saying the wrong name of one of your franchises and you already corrected the person
@@dionpace22like he said it triggers her, she lets it. You know Gil is a troll why let someone have control over your emotions
Womannnnn
@@dionpace22bra she a career bench player that we only know because of this show😭
Relatively speaking to how big the WNBA & NBA is I’d say Caitlin is probably bigger but generally speaking Wemby had a bigger impact
Caitlin will be a bigger percentage growth, because doubling the audience for the W takes much less than a 5% increase in the NBA. But Wemby will make more in salary than five entire WNBA teams because he hold more value.
@@LionelLordOfTheThundercatsCaitlyn is national, Wemby is international
@@LionelLordOfTheThundercats you kinda slow huh bro? There's going to be a whole international wave of ppl rooting for wemby plus the kids here .
@@Donn_G So you can't read? I said the Wemby will be a far more lucrative asset than Caitlin, but last year the highest viewed game in the WNBA was under a million viewers. Caitlin's last game was 16m, if she can bring in half of that for a game, she has more than doubled the views for the WNBA for a year. Nothing Wemby can do can have the percentage change for the NBA the way she will for the W.
Let me break it down to you like this, if you have a million dollars, and I give you another 200K that is a 20% increase. But if you have 100k, and I give you 100k, that is 100% increase. Yes 200K is more than 100K, but the percentage increase is more, when you have less. Get it?
Great point. It’s all relative
I can agree to an extent that when an18 year old coming onto the league vs a college graduate coming into the league, if the 18 year old has some meaningful playing time but if the 18 year old does not get that meaningful playing time , I don't know if the 18 year old would automatically be better. A college player could get much more meaningful playing time that would develop her game more.
I think the bigger star is Wemby, However I think Caitlin as a WHOLE is a much bigger star. She is going to drive alot of revenue into the WNBA. She's going to make a bigger impact than Wemby overall. As long as she keeps playing and doing like we've seen so far. Wemby also has international support as well, so that goes really far...
Caitlin will be no more popular than she is now, she’s already peaked. Wemby is just getting started and will be a larger than life figure for the next 15 + years.
@@takeover5478 well it depends on what she does from here on. We’ve seen people even in the nba who did what she did and it didn’t translate to anything special. So it really depends. She has the potential to make something great of it. But Wemby is a freak of nature. He will definitely be a one of a kind thing we may never see again.
Thank you Gil for not folding to the lies. The wnba is trash and Catlin wont change that fact. The hype will be rhere that first season. But, when she comes out and averages under her college numbers it'll die out.
How do you know what her numbers will be? Maybe she comes in the league on some Lebron shit for all we know. Why are you so mad?
That’s not what gil was saying at all😭😭😭 if anything he’s been saying Catlin is gonna make the league better with her style of play
this hate
You right
Do yall she gonna go back to avg 31 a game no her numbers are gonna drop because they gonna get real defenders just like South Carolina and shut her ass down
No Clark does not move the needle for the game of basketball like Victor does , and you got sick delusional mf on how the wnba is on the rise are sick in the head , you guys are not even gonna watch the season , there’s a reason why the women’s college numbers are better it’s because it’s more competitive and it don’t look like a bunch 8th graders just running around doing bad passes and airballin shots
Facts.
I don’t know about everybody else but Caitlin Clark ( Angel Reese and JuJu too) is the reason I added espn+ back to my Hulu account just to watch the women’s tournament. She’s also the reason I’m going to watch a actual WNBA game for the first time. It’s just her style of play it’s entertaining to watch for a change. So if she got a die hard nba fan paying attention that’s something special.
That’s why Steph is top 5💯😜
That’s cool, but let’s see how long that lasts.
@@Dipset415 he’s not
@@takeover5478 I’m not saying it will last forever but i wanna see
@@JoyrdRaisedMe he is though lebron is not 💯Kareem mj magic Kobe curry💪🏿in my lifetime
Nike got a logo and shoe for Wemby too. How much did they give him, cuz they gave her 20mill evaluation. She ran out of jerseys, but Wemby performed. The Chi Shy is trying to pull a Shaq/Kobe while Clark is pulling a loyalty card. This is basically an anime
Whats driving the sport is the rivalry between angel reese and catlain clark.
Lexie missed the plot on the shoe convo. She was just ready to be combative at that point, but Gil was right. Nike dropping a shoe on the same day she got drafted would’ve went SO CRAZY.
I see Gil’s point, but Nike did with Clark what they have done with all players and they are the most profitable basketball shoe company. Why would they change what’s been working?
@@tgee1007girls basketball is different tho.
Wemby impact is international discussion over.
But CC is about to breakthrough onto the world scene with Team USA. Then, we’ll see. Give her a chance to play in the Olympics on the world stage.
Lexi is unbearably annoying!
Y all mothers should ve loved u more, coz the way y all hate women just because they re women is crazy. Sorry y all were never loved by a woman
Yall change up quick
@@jcchambers7896the facts the wnba haven’t made a profit in 30 years of its existence!!!
@@jcchambers7896These new guys hate women 😂
Lol! She's a woman and she has to defend women sports
Lexie Needs To Sit Out These Conversations Her Emotions Spills On The Floor 😂😂
We know why a 2 time WNBA Champion Aja Wilson that's proven don't have a signature shoe, Black
athlete's don't get the love and credit they deserve because they already expect for them to be good.
When a white players comes out balling, it's rare, new and exiting and It's marketable. Once again nobody
Is talking about the team that beat Caitlin's team, or the Champions, Is any of them that actually beat
her getting any big deals? Caitlin is great and deserve all she get's, but she hasn't won any chips,
and she already has the crown. When have they ever done this for women's Basketball because
we had some great female players, Champions and Hall of Famers who will never get the love
and credit they deserve. Her fan base is huge because she reminds you of Steph Curry, It's great
for the WNBA, but will they do it again next year for another female college player? 😍👍🔥🔥
lexi in the thumbnail look like that lebron mean mug vs the celtics in game 6
What you also have to understand is womens bodies are different. 28 yr old female in wnba is like 38 in nba
Hell nah. Women don’t rely on as much athleticism, which is why Candace Parker was still killing as an old head. And Diana.
There is much more room to move the women's game, so it's not really a fair comparison. In terms of impact on their respective leagues, Caitlyn should have the bigger impact. In terms of individual player legacies, that favours Wemby as he has great skill along with freakish physical gifts, whilst Caitlyn has great skills but a pretty standard physical profile for a WNBA player.
Just one question about fan base, what’s bigger wemby impact worldwide or Caitlyn Clark’s? cause nba is a BUSINESS FIRST
Gil is the Joe Button of the sports podcasts 😂
Budden*
This will be the most watched season of the WNBA up until the start of the Olympics and football season. Then, as always, interest will disappear.
I’m with Gil. Caitlin is fresh off the tournament hype right into the draft. Once she starts playing we won’t care as much as we do now cause she will be playing a lot and it won’t be that special to us anymore. We only talked about Wemby once he started playing when he had an amazing stat line or highlight. PS yall can’t have a woman on here because they don’t know how to be objective
Damn wanted to see the rest of the show after this segment 😂
Lexie is so emotional with how she debate and besides her being cute she brings nothing else to the show
How is she emotional and Gil scream anytime someone don’t agree with only person who he don’t get loud with is Kenyon
@@k-way8471because he knows Kenyon would discontent his head from his body 😂
She’s literally cool and laid back.
Don't worry bro, she has no idea who you are and you will never be important to her.
Lol!!! Everybody on that stage was emotional while they was debating.
Get rid of Lexie please like damn he's giving you a scenario a freaking hypothetical shut up and just answer the question. If you disagree then that's okay 11:57
I agree with Gil. You got to strike while the iron is hot. The main thing is to push the wnba so they can capitalize on these opportunities to expand not only the game but their pockets. Proper marketing grew the NBA which then led to bigger contracts
Gil is giving so much free advice! Btw lebron had a Nike deal before his rookie year but not a signature shoe! The real time is key!
She proving the reason why we even having to have these conversations about the nba and wnba
Gil’s side eye at 3:24 is hilarious
All I could hear was "Who"? With his eyes😅
A women’s prime is like 19-23, it’s when they are strongest and fastest
Not really, most of wnba stars are older players
@@snippyduda no they should all be lmao, women forced to stay four years before entering the league
Misogyny 🫵🏿😭
Gil has a point. When we were young and in high school, we followed the guys our age a lot closer. When I got a little older I began to appreciate Kobe so much more, but for me it was Lebron. I remember him at St Vincent St Mary, playing Carmelo, the Slam magazine covers. I wasn't checking for Tim Duncan, Shaq, etc. I knew they were good, but I was watching people I related to. JuJu def has that appeal. Caitlin Clark is an aberration. She popped because she plays in such a unique way that we all had to pay attention, but no one cared until she was winning and hitting shots from the logo. There have been many great female college players, none of them played like that in the game so none of them had major recognition or support from fans. It's similar to Carmelo at Syracuse or Steph at Davidson, we didn't know until we knew...once we did though, they had a fan base. Caitlin is the same way.
To fucking think Wemby hasn’t already had a bigger impact and wont continue to is pure idiocy. Wemby is gonna be the LeBron if the new generation of Basketball players
Giving Asia a shoe, with no fan base is crazy/BAD BUSINESS.
A'ja has no fanbase says whom, you?
@user-jg4ci4mf8w Are you really suggesting she has a fan base large enough for a major shoe company to invest in her a shoe? HELL NAH!!! If she did, she'd have a shoe. Says basic business principals. And thanks for helping me spell her name correctly.
@@rowhi1339 Again, who says she doesn't have a fanbase and what metric and business principals are you using to assess that?
And she’s a big man with a big man game. Jokic is a 2x mvp big and he doesn’t have a shoe man
@user-jg4ci4mf8w You must be...
You can't be serious or smart. BASIC BUSINESS PRINCIPALS...SUPPLY AND DEMAND! No supply, cause ain't no damn demand. Why I feel like Kevin Samuels right now. "Can't make this ish up"
This was a very good debate bro !!
If we are judging impact solely on the basis of money made then Gil is right but because the question was about IMPACT it's definitely Caitlin Clark...it's easier to impact a smaller culture and company than a bigger one...of Wemby doesn't exist the NBA is pretty much unaffected. Caitlin Clark is already changing the way the media and everybody is looking at Women's basketball. It's actually not that close. Unless she completely flops in the WNBA, that shit is gonna change.
Lexi just wanna keep her job just like the nba vets. Let these young girls enter the league and eat
Exactly. She knows if next year they started drafting out of HS or 1 year after college. Gils arena would be her only job 😂.
@@itsruffoutchea6636you make. I sense you can’t bring a high school girl and put her in the w and Lexi is right they would be out the league ain’t no team waiting 4 years for a player to develop in the wnba
Y'all don't get it. Majority of young players, both in the WNBA and NBA, aren't not completely matured, which is why you have veterans...to help that them to get update but veterans are the stabilizers of their teams.
@@j-us-t_be-in-g Cole said it best you have to be a Kobe lebron or kg type player coming out of high school. Teams these days aren’t waiting 4 years for you to develop. And if you watch women basketball look at how small these high school girls are ain’t no way in hell they can play in the wnba they bodies are not developed. Amit of these kids don’t even lift weights till they get in college
These convos make me miss Kobe. He was the huge advocate for women's basketball.
Yea too bad they just drafted a man #1
Mann that shit was trash yall need to stop with this shit
@@blackmist1981?
@@blackmist1981 She is not a man, she just has a manly face, and manly body.
Cause he had 4 daughters he had no choice 😭
If 75 percent of first round players end up in the G league, then one and done doesn’t benefit the basketball business. NFL does it right and that’s why you can get talents in multiple rounds. Contracts were raised when college players like Magic, Bird, Jordan, etc made the league popular.
Hey Gil, there's a phenom PG playing for the Knicks. He played four years and his time at Villanova made him a smart and killer player. Brunson is a beast and guys like you would overlook him in the draft. Like so many others did. Don't dismiss experience so easily. And yes, A'ja should have her own shoe. But I've followed A'ja for a couple of years. Two years ago when I typed in A' in google, I got all kinds of weird results. Type in A' now, and google already fills it in with A'ja Wilson. Just try for yourself. Drawing attention to the WNBA players is bad thing now?
Well idk if Lexie made the greatest argument. Because gill technically would be right because wemby’s numbers of impact has been greater than Clark. 4th highest jersey sales in the NBA year one after Steph, Lebron, and Tatum. Third most viewed player on social behind Lebron and Steph. International fanbase. Gill was accurate that spurs valuation increase and Spurs also 34% jump and viewership and the NBA as a whole has had one of its biggest jumps in viewership in a while as a whole. That’s Wemby’s impact on the much larger NBA.
However if Lexie argument her point of Caitlin Clark’s impact relative to it’s current state than she would be right. Clark has had increases which include 8x the viewership on the draft. Over 307% increases of tickets sold of fever tickets although they did start at 4200, it’s still impressive relative to where it began. Even though Wemby sold out a summer league ever has happened before with about 17k, increased like that on the women’s game hasn’t happened before. Clark’s jersey has been fanatics most sold jersey of all time so that does move the needle. Her jersey outsold the cowboys jersey sales last year. She demand is forcing the move of a number of team arenas which is also unprecedented so again Lexie would be right “relative” to where the WNBA was before.
So if you want to say impact with actual numbers of viewership and value Wemby would take the edge but if you say impact relative from the start of the leagues value, Clark takes that by a landslide.
the fact that Caitlin's brand is more hyped right now than it has EVER been, and the WNBA and Nike have not done anything out of the ordinary in order to capitalize on that is Gil's point. You got one of the hottest product on the market in ALL of sports, and you haven't created any special products to capitalize on that momentum? And you're gonna wait MONTHS to do so? Y'all fumbling the bag
Gil is right on his NCAA/NBA Senior vs Freshman take......RJ is a perfect example of that his 21 ppg for UNC means nothing to Kentucky 2 back up Dillingham and Sheppard 15 &12 who are being evaluated as lottery picks
Nike gave Wilson a PE for the Cosmic Unity 3 - how many bought it?
If Nike launches Clark's and Wilson's signatures sneakers tomorrow, and you can only buy one pair, which will you buy?