I put the 2.5" rise Jones bar on my Trek 920 back in 2019. That bar is staying on my bike forever. I don't drive an automobile so I'm on my bike everyday. Matter of fact, I just cleaned my chain & drivetrain earlier today.
I couldn't agree more. Comfort always has been my priority. In fact I have swapped my surly corner bar with the Jones bar on and off several times on my Surly Ghost Grappler. I finally decided to stay with the Jones bar. I also have it on my Salsa Fargo for long bikepacking trips. In the end it's my favourite bar.
After watching this video I raised my Jones bars by just one inch and my lower back pain and hand numbness is much better. Thanks for all the ideas for dialing these bars in.
Have been absolutely loving my jones bar with additional pole up front. In aero position (arms on bar, hands on gnarwall) i am still able to see and more or less maneuver my bike. And it's so good not to worry about bikepacking bags, which will interfere with cable routing. So good
I love my Jones 2.5 bars on my Surly Ice Cream Truck. Like you mentioned, it feels like riding a beach cruiser but I have been able to ride technical single track no problem with them too.
Have them on my surly and love the multiple hand and body positions available for long rides. I. An go from almost upright to fully stretched out. Handy for long days on the saddle! Good review, thanks!!
great vid, nice conclusion succinctly passed on. I've been unsure about these bars, but will try them out now as I'm after comfort and upright so I can see around. Thank you
Anyone here using Jones Bars on a Jones Bike? It steps up to another level of comfort and control. I just bought my 4th Jones LWB, and rarely ride my other bikes anymore.
I just put the 2.5 on my bearclaw thunder hawk gravel bike and I’m loving it. I have an adjustable stem as well so I’ve been tweaking it a little up and down to find the sweet spot. Injustice uploaded a video showing it in action.
I've been using the knock-off Planet X On-One Geoff handlebar for 2 years. I love it and the pros/cons you covered are spot on. I've made the decision a while ago that the rowdiest I'd ride are blue trails with medium drops; making these handlebars perfect for my plus tires hard tail.
Putting Jones bars on my Surly Wednesday was the best decision I've ever made. It became so much more pleasant to ride. Way better than the stock bars.
what Surly model ? I have a newer Bridge Club and find the "stock" bars VERY uncomfortable and not effective for bike packing and the more I look into the Jones bars I'm inclined to pick up a set ✌️
I love my jones bars!. They essentially have helped me get back to riding. I have a neck injury that limits my neck mobility and the h-bars put me in a more comfortable upright position 🙃
I never hear anyone mention having a split hand grip. I usually ride with my left hand forward and my right hand back and on the controls. Best of both worlds in my opinion.
I have the carbon H Loops and the shock absorption and light weight is fabulous. My wrists wish there was a 30 degree version, but out of the saddle climbing with these is superb.
I have the Jones H riser bars, it had improved my riding position and I'm able to enjoy longer rides and my wrists have benefitted due to the positioning too 😀
😂I've been using the 2.5" rise jones bar on my bike for about 5 years now,absolutely love it.I just bought a Salsa Marrakesh with a cowchipper drop bar.It looks really cool but for me it's not comfortable.I'm changing it out to a jones bar asap.
There's a few changes that are necessary to bring out the most potential from jones bars, stem length and backward tilt. most people that ive heard complain about not liking them are running them incorrectly and the bars are both flat and the stem wasnt changed out to bring the rider further forward. when done correctly the cockpit will be more centered in ALL POSITIONS including in the tucked aero position.
I think you got these bars just right. The positioning is so important to make the most of these bars. I didn’t understand them for the longest time until trying them on a Jones LWB and the system all of a sudden made a ton of sense to me. I wouldn’t recommend these bars unless folks really get them set up right.
The conversation with Jeff helped me understand them a lot more and made a huge difference. I may or may not have an LWB on the way to explore the "Jones philosophy" even more.
I run the Moloko Handlebar bag with the Jones bar. Fits perfect. Also I use the Ergo grips (ones designed for swept back bars). It's just such an amazing ride.
I love Jones Loop Bars and use them for everything except a dedicated trail bike. For pure trail riding the 45 degree sweep tends to make my hands and wrists tired as they try to slide forward under impact. Also, the flat Jones bars are definitely preferable to the risers if you can make them work with your geometry. The 3-way juncture of the sweeps and loop provide a supremely comfortable place to rest your hands, but not on the riser bars, where the back portion of the loop drops away.
I agree with your thoughts on the 45 degree back sweep. My wrists and hands start hurting at 10 miles. I'm 70, bars are level to seat, with short reach. Converting back to Race Face bars with more flex and some rise, and Ergon grips GP3 cork with bar ends. Also have a drop bar mtn bike for bikepacking, touring. My hands and wrists prefer "Neutral" hand position for less pain. ☮
love my Jones Bar on my rockhopper. Finally found just the right bar for casual biking where I do not need an aggressive stance. Biking is 1000x more enjoyable now :)
@@chubbymonkey6604 2.5 As an aging biker it feels excellent to be more upright, bombing down easy trails or cruising. And a Jones bag for easy access stuff is nice.
Pretty much on all of my 3 bikes the 2.5 rise Jones bars are of no use without longer cables. Didn't expect that hassle. But the no-rise Bend jones work great.
Good point! I tried them on one of my bikes and the cables were just a tad too short for comfort. New hoses/cables does make it more of an investment, but if you really want a comfy position it's probably worth it.
Thanks for review. I tried the butterfly bars, their ok. But im still looking at trying Jones, Moloko, or the corner bars. ?? I've no interest lately in fast riding, I'm older and looking at gravel, trails, touring types. I purcahased a Schwinn Paramount PDG, and like the comfort amd rack mounts and wider tires, just didnt like the straight bars..
I like the Jones bars a lot, but I have the advantage of running them on a Jones LWB, so in theory everything works better together from the start. I've been tempted to put them on my fat bike, but the setup seems like it might be a lot of trouble.
The set up is actually really simple because it’s mostly about minimizing the reach and increasing the stack (assuming you have a modern bike that’s long and low). In all likelihood you’d just need a shorter stem and then pick your rise of bar depending on the amount of stack you want/need to add.
Another solid review! I've had four versions of the 710 Jones bar (2.5 SG, the bend bar, standard 710 and a pair in titanium). They're great, but if they're not set up correctly then they're going to be strange. Also consider that, even for bikes similar to the Jones SWB and LWB, your effective top tube is likely going to be longer, which means to get the same fit as a Jones bar on a Jones bike, you'll be running a shorter stem. (Check out bikeinsights for a comparison). Sound advice- check out the Jones instructions directly. I also agree that the bars are great on a large variety of bikes and surfaces, but for mountain biking I like a wide straight bar. My ape index is negative and I still love an uncut Surly Sunrise bar on my RSD Middlechild...
been using a $10 stainless custom made loop bar I bought from someone for 5 years in my long touring rides and I'm not coming back to a straight bar unless I'm riding a heavy trail.
I think watching this video has finally convinced me to buy a set of thes bars I have a '23 Surly Bridge Club large size and the stock bars suck and are very uncomfortable and not effective for how I want to set up a bike packing/live off bicycle 😊
I put the Jones 2.5 on my Bridge Club - and even raced in the Salty 75 mile race in Wendover this last month. Make sure you buy a much, much shorter stem. I'm not entirely confident that I'm faster but comfort was key for that race.
Looking forward to the Duro Crux vid if you do one! Jones as far as I know have the only Tubeless ready 29 x 3.25 Crux tyres in the entire universe, I was going to get some sent over to the UK but it's stupidly expensive P&P + customs and all the rest of it, although the absolute dearth of 29+ tyres means it'll probably come to that sooner or later...
@@RideYearRound Me too, I rode my old Farley along some sand banks, and occasionally went up to the knee in sea water (excellent fun!) but the upshot of this was 3 days later everything was orange and non-spinable. I've subsequently learned the value of marine grease, but I'll tell you the biggest obstacle I found with those Crux tyres, was finding a frame to fit them in. Fine for most fats, but some will struggle, and they definitely won't fit underneath the brace of a Bluto, I don't think they fit underneath my standard Mastodon either, but can't remember.
I have Jones bars on 2 bikes. Carbon on my Kona Unit with a long steer tube for tall stack very comfortable also think the carbon helps for fatigue. My other set is aluminium on my Surly Bridgeclub with a lower stack height, no where near as comfortable. If i keep the bike I will try the 2.5 rise. Also have a 2023 Cutthroat and ultimately may convert to Jones. I noticed you have them on your Cutthroat any feedback on that application ? Thanks
Right now I have drops on my Cutthroat, but I loved the Jones with it. Definitely doesn’t feel as “racey” as with drops, but more relaxed/comfortable and a lot more control on singletrack and technical sections.
I bough the Tumbleweed Persuader bar. I wanted a more upright position due to a nagging collar bone issue. What I didn't realize was 800mm wide bars would make a big difference on tech downhill sections. Also the Tumbleweed stamp is fitting for the desert I live in. BTW, beautiful trails, what part of the country is this?
I've tried them, still have a pair in the shed, i like them, but i prefer home made versions of the Denham Koga bars with moveable inboard bar ends using a 25-30 degree generic backsweep bar. I also prefer the 35 degree On One classic Mary bars. Handlebars are like saddles, very subjective and personal taste. Each man's.....etc
Agree with you there...it'll depend on your preferences, where and what you're riding, your body type, and a whole bunch of other things. I've never tried the Denham bars, but the horns look like they mimic drop bar hoods which are a great position.
I have a Denham Koga handlebar and really like it, but for me it lacks enough room to mount brakes, shifter, ebike level controller, and throttle in a comfortable, user position on my ebike. Therefore, I've been thinking about purchasing a Jones bar, but have a concern about the substantial 35 degree sweepback. How did you find the sweepback over longer rides?
It's actually a 45 degree sweep on the Jones bars. I wasn't able to get in a ride over 2.5 hours, but I found the sweep to be really comfortable as long as you have the bars angled down correctly (between 10-15 degrees). If you go flatter or steeper your wrist can end up at a bit of an odd angle.
I used 2.5 inch jones all last season and I really miss the variety of backsweep options like on denham bar or crazy bar, even a flat jones could give me one more hand positions where you put your palms on two tubes at once and so for wrists it feels like on a flat bar. I don't use any bag to be able to grab the bar right next to the stem cause that's the only flat-like section, but leverage is crazy low in this position. But overall this bar is still better than any other, for me of course, and on this particular frame (26 inch jamis dragon pro with only 9 cm tall headtube)
Just ordered myself a pair with grips, do you have any suggestion for riser stems for it? I currently have a cheap $15 amazon stem (knockoff of a wake) with that 70mm with a 35 degree rise but want something better quality.
Try a Ritchey C220, which has a 25 degree rise/drop. They also have a cheaper one with 30 degree rise. I don’t remember the Jones or Ritchey clamp diameters, so check that shims are available if needed.
@@RideYearRound lol, it does look like the same stem, mine is branded with Qikour in white on the side. (might be same with different branding.) I will check out the Fargo one. Thanks :)
@@ericpmoss I was looking at thos but are sadly a bit more than i can afford, Also looking at a Funn but it is only 7 degree rise. Edit: I do see the Ritchey 30 degree now for 39, What length should i go for?
At trail speeds aero is not a decider, think about the math physics - aero forces are a velocity squared. Of course a stiff Great Plains headwind is a bitch for all use cases.
It's important to note that a extreme angle backsweep bar like this means it changes your reach, so using a short stem means your hands are much further behind the steerer, making the reach shorter than the frame was made for. This can create a more cramped position and very awkward steering. To get it back to the same reach as before, you need a longer stem.
I have my fat bikes set up with bar risers so its all day comfort riding. If i need to go fast on the flat i can put my elbows on the handlebar grips and i am in a very aero position. Down hill and up hill with a dropper post, a high handle bar position is just great. I can single track shread, go cross country and commute all day no worries. I tried Jones bars, not wide enough for me. They are very god though.
I put the 2.5" rise Jones bar on my Trek 920 back in 2019. That bar is staying on my bike forever. I don't drive an automobile so I'm on my bike everyday. Matter of fact, I just cleaned my chain & drivetrain earlier today.
I couldn't agree more. Comfort always has been my priority. In fact I have swapped my surly corner bar with the Jones bar on and off several times on my Surly Ghost Grappler. I finally decided to stay with the Jones bar. I also have it on my Salsa Fargo for long bikepacking trips. In the end it's my favourite bar.
After watching this video I raised my Jones bars by just one inch and my lower back pain and hand numbness is much better. Thanks for all the ideas for dialing these bars in.
Have been absolutely loving my jones bar with additional pole up front. In aero position (arms on bar, hands on gnarwall) i am still able to see and more or less maneuver my bike. And it's so good not to worry about bikepacking bags, which will interfere with cable routing. So good
I love my Jones 2.5 bars on my Surly Ice Cream Truck. Like you mentioned, it feels like riding a beach cruiser but I have been able to ride technical single track no problem with them too.
Have them on my surly and love the multiple hand and body positions available for long rides. I. An go from almost upright to fully stretched out. Handy for long days on the saddle! Good review, thanks!!
great vid, nice conclusion succinctly passed on. I've been unsure about these bars, but will try them out now as I'm after comfort and upright so I can see around. Thank you
I keep coming back to these bars. They just work for me.
Anyone here using Jones Bars on a Jones Bike? It steps up to another level of comfort and control. I just bought my 4th Jones LWB, and rarely ride my other bikes anymore.
I just put the 2.5 on my bearclaw thunder hawk gravel bike and I’m loving it. I have an adjustable stem as well so I’ve been tweaking it a little up and down to find the sweet spot. Injustice uploaded a video showing it in action.
I've been using the knock-off Planet X On-One Geoff handlebar for 2 years. I love it and the pros/cons you covered are spot on. I've made the decision a while ago that the rowdiest I'd ride are blue trails with medium drops; making these handlebars perfect for my plus tires hard tail.
I've just put some on my Big Dog with a 100mm stem for bike packing. Like em so much I've just left them on for trail riding too, very comfy!
Putting Jones bars on my Surly Wednesday was the best decision I've ever made. It became so much more pleasant to ride. Way better than the stock bars.
what Surly model ? I have a newer Bridge Club and find the "stock" bars VERY uncomfortable and not effective for bike packing and the more I look into the Jones bars I'm inclined to pick up a set ✌️
@@michaellorenzen8200 I have a 2021 Surly Wednesday. It came with some 750mm flat bars with just a slight amount of sweep.
I love my jones bars!. They essentially have helped me get back to riding. I have a neck injury that limits my neck mobility and the h-bars put me in a more comfortable upright position 🙃
Glad to hear they're keeping you out there on the bike!
Jeff and his staff are amazing. i want to bike pack from chicago to the shop to say hi and thank you for being so nice
I never hear anyone mention having a split hand grip. I usually ride with my left hand forward and my right hand back and on the controls. Best of both worlds in my opinion.
I have the carbon H Loops and the shock absorption and light weight is fabulous. My wrists wish there was a 30 degree version, but out of the saddle climbing with these is superb.
I have the Jones H riser bars, it had improved my riding position and I'm able to enjoy longer rides and my wrists have benefitted due to the positioning too 😀
Very interesting. I might get these bases on your video. Combining them with a super short stem seems like a great idea.
😂I've been using the 2.5" rise jones bar on my bike for about 5 years now,absolutely love it.I just bought a Salsa Marrakesh with a cowchipper drop bar.It looks really cool but for me it's not comfortable.I'm changing it out to a jones bar asap.
Im on this bars too. Definitely a very comfortable design eapecially for long rides.
There's a few changes that are necessary to bring out the most potential from jones bars, stem length and backward tilt. most people that ive heard complain about not liking them are running them incorrectly and the bars are both flat and the stem wasnt changed out to bring the rider further forward. when done correctly the cockpit will be more centered in ALL POSITIONS including in the tucked aero position.
I have the Ergotec Space bar, 630 mm and 34 degrees backsweep.
I think you got these bars just right. The positioning is so important to make the most of these bars. I didn’t understand them for the longest time until trying them on a Jones LWB and the system all of a sudden made a ton of sense to me. I wouldn’t recommend these bars unless folks really get them set up right.
The conversation with Jeff helped me understand them a lot more and made a huge difference. I may or may not have an LWB on the way to explore the "Jones philosophy" even more.
I run the Moloko Handlebar bag with the Jones bar. Fits perfect. Also I use the Ergo grips (ones designed for swept back bars). It's just such an amazing ride.
HAVE THE 2.5 RISE, SHORT LENGTH BAR, WITH ERGO GRIPS ON MY SURLY LHT.
VERY COMFORTABLE FOR TOURING
I just missed the rise version of this bar on marketplace for $125. Guess I should buckle down and order one.
I love Jones Loop Bars and use them for everything except a dedicated trail bike. For pure trail riding the 45 degree sweep tends to make my hands and wrists tired as they try to slide forward under impact.
Also, the flat Jones bars are definitely preferable to the risers if you can make them work with your geometry. The 3-way juncture of the sweeps and loop provide a supremely comfortable place to rest your hands, but not on the riser bars, where the back portion of the loop drops away.
I agree with your thoughts on the 45 degree back sweep. My wrists and hands start hurting at 10 miles. I'm 70, bars are level to seat, with short reach. Converting back to Race Face bars with more flex and some rise, and Ergon grips GP3 cork with bar ends. Also have a drop bar mtn bike for bikepacking, touring. My hands and wrists prefer "Neutral" hand position for less pain. ☮
love my Jones Bar on my rockhopper. Finally found just the right bar for casual biking where I do not need an aggressive stance. Biking is 1000x more enjoyable now :)
Considering this bar for my rockhopper 29. Did you go for the 0.5 or 2.5 rise?
@@chubbymonkey6604 2.5 As an aging biker it feels excellent to be more upright, bombing down easy trails or cruising. And a Jones bag for easy access stuff is nice.
Pretty much on all of my 3 bikes the 2.5 rise Jones bars are of no use without longer cables. Didn't expect that hassle. But the no-rise Bend jones work great.
Good point! I tried them on one of my bikes and the cables were just a tad too short for comfort. New hoses/cables does make it more of an investment, but if you really want a comfy position it's probably worth it.
Thanks for review. I tried the butterfly bars, their ok. But im still looking at trying Jones, Moloko, or the corner bars. ??
I've no interest lately in fast riding, I'm older and looking at gravel, trails, touring types. I purcahased a Schwinn Paramount PDG, and like the comfort amd rack mounts and wider tires, just didnt like the straight bars..
I like the Jones bars a lot, but I have the advantage of running them on a Jones LWB, so in theory everything works better together from the start.
I've been tempted to put them on my fat bike, but the setup seems like it might be a lot of trouble.
The set up is actually really simple because it’s mostly about minimizing the reach and increasing the stack (assuming you have a modern bike that’s long and low). In all likelihood you’d just need a shorter stem and then pick your rise of bar depending on the amount of stack you want/need to add.
The 2.5 inch rise bars are excellent :-)
Another solid review! I've had four versions of the 710 Jones bar (2.5 SG, the bend bar, standard 710 and a pair in titanium). They're great, but if they're not set up correctly then they're going to be strange. Also consider that, even for bikes similar to the Jones SWB and LWB, your effective top tube is likely going to be longer, which means to get the same fit as a Jones bar on a Jones bike, you'll be running a shorter stem. (Check out bikeinsights for a comparison). Sound advice- check out the Jones instructions directly.
I also agree that the bars are great on a large variety of bikes and surfaces, but for mountain biking I like a wide straight bar. My ape index is negative and I still love an uncut Surly Sunrise bar on my RSD Middlechild...
been using a $10 stainless custom made loop bar I bought from someone for 5 years in my long touring rides and I'm not coming back to a straight bar unless I'm riding a heavy trail.
The planet x/on one Geoff bars are similar but they have no rise. They are comfortable though.
my favorite handle bar for long rides. no stress in my shoulders i can do 200kms with loop bars. nice video share. new subscriber here sir. ride safe
I think watching this video has finally convinced me to buy a set of thes bars I have a '23 Surly Bridge Club large size and the stock bars suck and are very uncomfortable and not effective for how I want to set up a bike packing/live off bicycle 😊
I put the Jones 2.5 on my Bridge Club - and even raced in the Salty 75 mile race in Wendover this last month. Make sure you buy a much, much shorter stem. I'm not entirely confident that I'm faster but comfort was key for that race.
So I recently bought a Jones bike, and now I want a gps for my bike. Any ideas on a mount that will work for the 22.2mm with of the Jones bar?
I would really like to try these bars on both my mtb and hybrid bikes. Now looking for a supplier in the UK. No audio on the video?
Looking forward to the Duro Crux vid if you do one! Jones as far as I know have the only Tubeless ready 29 x 3.25 Crux tyres in the entire universe, I was going to get some sent over to the UK but it's stupidly expensive P&P + customs and all the rest of it, although the absolute dearth of 29+ tyres means it'll probably come to that sooner or later...
I'll have that coming in the next couple weeks. I've had a lot of wheel related issues recently which have delayed the review on those.
@@RideYearRound Me too, I rode my old Farley along some sand banks, and occasionally went up to the knee in sea water (excellent fun!) but the upshot of this was 3 days later everything was orange and non-spinable. I've subsequently learned the value of marine grease, but I'll tell you the biggest obstacle I found with those Crux tyres, was finding a frame to fit them in. Fine for most fats, but some will struggle, and they definitely won't fit underneath the brace of a Bluto, I don't think they fit underneath my standard Mastodon either, but can't remember.
I have Jones bars on 2 bikes. Carbon on my Kona Unit with a long steer tube for tall stack very comfortable also think the carbon helps for fatigue. My other set is aluminium on my Surly Bridgeclub with a lower stack height, no where near as comfortable. If i keep the bike I will try the 2.5 rise. Also have a 2023 Cutthroat and ultimately may convert to Jones. I noticed you have them on your Cutthroat any feedback on that application ? Thanks
Right now I have drops on my Cutthroat, but I loved the Jones with it. Definitely doesn’t feel as “racey” as with drops, but more relaxed/comfortable and a lot more control on singletrack and technical sections.
Hi great review. Curious what type of shifters are preferred on the loop bar?
Sonder conficius handle bar. Check that out
Love your videos. I want to come and ride with you!
It's pretty much a commuter handle bar as used in Europe, with a crossbar in front. Clever marketing.
another advantage is that I can slip and hold my tumbler through that loop
I bough the Tumbleweed Persuader bar. I wanted a more upright position due to a nagging collar bone issue. What I didn't realize was 800mm wide bars would make a big difference on tech downhill sections. Also the Tumbleweed stamp is fitting for the desert I live in. BTW, beautiful trails, what part of the country is this?
That’s another bar I’d love to try out. I’m in SW Montana and I’ll admit it’s a beautiful place!
I've tried them, still have a pair in the shed, i like them, but i prefer home made versions of the Denham Koga bars with moveable inboard bar ends using a 25-30 degree generic backsweep bar. I also prefer the 35 degree On One classic Mary bars.
Handlebars are like saddles, very subjective and personal taste.
Each man's.....etc
Agree with you there...it'll depend on your preferences, where and what you're riding, your body type, and a whole bunch of other things. I've never tried the Denham bars, but the horns look like they mimic drop bar hoods which are a great position.
I have a Denham Koga handlebar and really like it, but for me it lacks enough room to mount brakes, shifter, ebike level controller, and throttle in a comfortable, user position on my ebike.
Therefore, I've been thinking about purchasing a Jones bar, but have a concern about the substantial 35 degree sweepback.
How did you find the sweepback over longer rides?
It's actually a 45 degree sweep on the Jones bars. I wasn't able to get in a ride over 2.5 hours, but I found the sweep to be really comfortable as long as you have the bars angled down correctly (between 10-15 degrees). If you go flatter or steeper your wrist can end up at a bit of an odd angle.
I used 2.5 inch jones all last season and I really miss the variety of backsweep options like on denham bar or crazy bar, even a flat jones could give me one more hand positions where you put your palms on two tubes at once and so for wrists it feels like on a flat bar. I don't use any bag to be able to grab the bar right next to the stem cause that's the only flat-like section, but leverage is crazy low in this position. But overall this bar is still better than any other, for me of course, and on this particular frame (26 inch jamis dragon pro with only 9 cm tall headtube)
Great information I like your channel
Just ordered myself a pair with grips, do you have any suggestion for riser stems for it? I currently have a cheap $15 amazon stem (knockoff of a wake) with that 70mm with a 35 degree rise but want something better quality.
Pretty sure I have that exact stem haha. I don’t have any recommendations on that, unless salsa still has theirs they used to put on the Fargo.
Try a Ritchey C220, which has a 25 degree rise/drop. They also have a cheaper one with 30 degree rise. I don’t remember the Jones or Ritchey clamp diameters, so check that shims are available if needed.
@@RideYearRound lol, it does look like the same stem, mine is branded with Qikour in white on the side. (might be same with different branding.) I will check out the Fargo one. Thanks :)
@@ericpmoss I was looking at thos but are sadly a bit more than i can afford, Also looking at a Funn but it is only 7 degree rise. Edit: I do see the Ritchey 30 degree now for 39, What length should i go for?
At trail speeds aero is not a decider, think about the math physics - aero forces are a velocity squared. Of course a stiff Great Plains headwind is a bitch for all use cases.
It's important to note that a extreme angle backsweep bar like this means it changes your reach, so using a short stem means your hands are much further behind the steerer, making the reach shorter than the frame was made for. This can create a more cramped position and very awkward steering. To get it back to the same reach as before, you need a longer stem.
Do you know why they offer 2 sizes? Couldn’t the 710 be cut off to a 660 if that’s what a person wants?
yes, but you can't add to the 660 to make 710...
Do you have link for handlebar bag please
jonesbikes.com/jones-h-bar-pack/
I have my fat bikes set up with bar risers so its all day comfort riding. If i need to go fast on the flat i can put my elbows on the handlebar grips and i am in a very aero position.
Down hill and up hill with a dropper post, a high handle bar position is just great. I can single track shread, go cross country and commute all day no worries.
I tried Jones bars, not wide enough for me. They are very god though.
they are crazy expensive