Have you seen the new Koga Denham handlebar? It is pretty exactly what you were trying to do with your setup. btw. I used a 70cm wide 9° MTB flatbar and put the bar ends (the ones you have in your video) on the inner side between shifters and brakes and some Specialized S-Works Roubaix tape around it. It works perfectly! Excellent for MTB trails and including a nice aero position.
@@toastyrides hey guys what you both are saying is really inspiring, currently on my fattie I have a Kyote with ergo barend grips (that has a good backsweep so at least hands don't get numb) but as I do gravel and I love drops, and really want to try them on a fattie, I can't wait for the Corner to actually be released...! Toasty it's the first video of yours I'm finding, sorry if I missed some previous story (will catch up and I like your diy here too), but may I ask you where you got them from, pleeeeeeez? 😁 from Italy gotta say many i hear are skeptical about the weight and i would indeed prefer alloy (and in the Philipines a serious rider already already did some replica/copy very popular therel but well i'd rather go surly of big tested brands really) but just can't wait and noone knows any actual release dates (roughly of course)... cheers :) !
@@dorianblue4229 hey! Thank you! 🤙 the Kyote bar is very comfortable, I just put mine onto my newest build (the Jamis Dragon) as they had been sitting for a while not used. yeah I would hope they’ll do a version 2 and make some adjustments and offer an alloy version, too. I got mine from BlueLug, Japan, but they are now sold out. They released in some countries last month I think, but in small numbers and most places sold out quickly (my country sold out before the release date! 😂). Yeah definitely with Surly I have no worries about strength 👌 especially being steel! Haha. I hope you like the other videos, if you do watch them sometime! Greetings from New Zealand!
@@toastyrides hey mate, i'm back after this couple of days because i'm actually left with one more question... in the Philippines they're full of surly corner replicas, but what is interesting is that some of these copies (that's how they openly call them) are said to be alloy - and lighter. Not that they're so much close to you either, but have you heard of those? (You easily find clips around yt as well). Since you have "the real McCoy" i may guess you'd favour yours, but it's still worth asking :) take your time. Thanks always!! :)
I just modded my knockoff aluminum corner bars exactly like you did. I used an old set of Bontrager race lite magnesium bar ends and cut them so a little bit of the curve remained. I used the We The People Supreme bar end plugs, and filed the bar ends to fit just like you did. It worked awesome and was pretty easy to do. Thank you for the great tip!
I am with you on this. I'm a little concerned about the reliability of this mod. I wish Surly would just leave them long and then let the customer or shop cut to length.
Make a foam form for the desired extension shape. Cover with CF & epoxy. Vacate form, & extend CF/Epoxy into Surly's horn ends, which should bond well. Yep, then you'd have your custom-fit extension done-right :-)
I have a set of old school drops that I cut down to make Bullhorns. If I can get bar ends clamped at the bend the Geo would not be dissimilar to your set up but a truck load narrower. 🤔 Hmmmm. Nice hack. 👍 I'm off to bodge😃
You could I think! If you file the inside of the clamp out it should be fine, if there’s enough material 👌 good idea! Would love to see the end result 👍 thanks heaps!
I gave it a go with some Uno Advanced Project bar ends. I managed to shove one on but the clamping bolt is too short to tighten it up, I believe that if you were going off road the shorter reach with more leverage would be great but not having the brakes to hand is , yeah well. I enjoyed messing around, thanks for the inspiration 👍.
Cheers! Thanks heaps, it’s heaps of fun this 😁 super comfy, fast and wheelie-able haha. Look forward to some trips with it after lockdown, just need a tent and sleeping setup 👌
One might actually then just go with bullhorn bars. You would have to turn the levers around so the brake lines run backwards along the bar. And the thumbshifters would have to be swapped left-right.
Hi there, this is such a cool bike and looks so versatile. I was wondering if you could do a video on this bike alone? A review, why you picked this bike, how you set it up and why?? Cheers! Great channel!
@@toastyrides hi, sorry for the multple comments and questions :) but you can be flattered, your video really intriguing :) ok i'll just stay chill now, greets from Italy (which we always see as a New Zealand just upside down and split, it's freaky how similar they look :D cheers!)
@@dorianblue4229 no problem at all! It’s nice to have conversations and have this community 👌 I’m very flattered, thank you!! Hahaha that is true!! 😯👌 nice to meet you!
Could you provide a link to the "scooter" handlebar extensions you were referring to? Not sure if I want to go through the work of make-shifting the bar ends like you did lol. Thanks!
Thank you! Here’s the link, cheap and comfy. Slightly softer than an ODI longneck (the standard, haven’t tried the new “soft” ones) www.wiggle.co.nz/seal-bmx-switch-grips-limited-edition
I need to know if theres a way to extend it like you did. If theres a proper attachment because I personally trying to find a way to extend that part because i find it a good hand position.
Do you have any tips to tidy up the cable with this setup? my cable are really messy.. I switch from flat bar to corner bar and back again to flat bar because of the messy cable routing.. thanks for the video..
Thanks for the video, I have never used drop bars but was looking for possible bar options for extra hand positions/comfort on my Kona Dew and might give this Surly bar a shot.
Thanks for checking it out! Sounds like a good plan, this isn’t too different like dropbars would be. There are also bars like the VeloOrange crazy bar, or Jones Loop bar that you might be interested in 🤙 the Koga Denham bar looks comfy, too!
I put the surly corner bars on my kona dew fs - but I also switched the front forks to rigid carbon ones. I used an adjustable stem to raise the bars up and inwards for a shorter reach and more upright ride. I love them. I also switched to a hollowtech bb and went microShift 1x10 with a 40 to 11-48 drive.
@@ronwhite8503 no worries, happy to help! That’s cool to hear, I’m really enjoying putting the content out there 😁🤙 interesting and comfy bikes 😎 haha. Have fun and happy riding!
Really appreciate what you did here. About the extension: Why not use a suitable bolt with the extender nuts from an old quill stem instead of that pricey extender lock? Too big for the space? Too much weight? As soon as I saw the lock nut I thought of extender nuts on a quill. Thanks.
Thanks! Yeah one of those could work, if you modified it a bit as it’s too large. But then you have to also make a piece for it to spread/wedge up against that fits the inside diameter of the handlebar. It would’ve been possible, and complicated, but the barend I used was perfect for the job👌
Zniino makes the chinese version of those cornerbars. way more affordable, and actually build to modern standards, do'nt know why surley would charge 140$ for theirs. you can also build your own with a cruiser handlebar and so mtb extensions.
Why nobody puts brakes and shifters on the top bar (flat) ... and use corners/drop just for handling .... like your extension - it would be even better if they would be slightly bent up like the one you cut :)
I would love to see some more detail on how you made the extensions. I understand the concepts but I can figure out how you attached the clamp to the extension bar. You mentioned JB weld but I’m unsure of how you used it. Any help would be much appreciated!
My criticism of the Surly bar is that it slips in the handlebar clamp because it's only 25.4mm and it's steel. The Chinese knock off doesn't do that because it's 31.8mm and aluminum.
That sounds like there’s a tolerance issue with your stem, I haven’t had that problem at all. But fair enough I guess, would be annoying if it happened to me too.
@@toastyrides It did happen with the steel bar but it's never happened with the alu bar, same stem. Once it happened I felt uneasy about using it. I don't worry at all with the alu bar. Cheers!
If you use a shim, the bar is 22.2 so would need a 1.6mm shim to fit the 23.8 road shifter. I don’t know if the road shifter would suit the curve of the bar, I think it would be too aggressive. It’s meant to convert mtb’s to “dropbar” with mtb components
The outer ends...do your hand ever go there? Seems you could trim 5cm each side. I run a simple inverted trekking bar and it's damn near perfect. I will give it a go to ovalive the near-the-stem position that I seem to use most for aero reasons but numb up my hands. I did a little test with some strips of foam stacked up to the fore and aft faces of a section of bar. On top of that, a rubber grip cut open like you have in this video, and then a cork bar wrap of sorts.
Hey! It’s a 35 degree stem from memory and I think it’s the 75/80mm version (it has no measurements on it). But because of the angle it only equals about 65mm of reach.
Hello! I have a huge question! I want to change from a flat bar to a drop bar but that means change shifter, brakes etc... Does this corner bars can be adapted to the original brakes and shifter for my flat bar? Nice build on your bikes man!!!
Hi Sir I am using the same kind of corner bar as you do. I'm just wondering if what is the size of stem that you used? The high rise stem? Thank you sir
@@guol1806 i dont use it anymore but its not the bar's fault. Its just too much work on my current bike to fit it (longer brake hoses). I went back to my Klunkers for my MTB
I think they did a great job but they could’ve made it near perfect. They can definitely make it better in version 2 👌 I think they tried to keep it simple, for flatbar riders but they compromised haha
Yup Surly tried. At least they’re the 1st company to address the desires of flatbar riders who longed to convert to drops but were intimidated by the cost. Still could’ve tested the form factor first before launching but they were probably under a deadline to release it.
@@dorianblue4229 hmm it’s tough to say 🤔 definitely the “hood” or “nub” extension like I did. I think the angle and drop are a good medium for people. And I like how it doesn’t change reach by much, especially compared to regular drops! One with a bump in the drop, like Ritchey Venturemax, would be lovely 😂 I love that bump!!
@@toastyrides ok. Great to have one more view on the reach cos indeed i wished to spare more swapping/adjusting of the stem too hehe. And yeah i have an aussie Walmer 60-75 on the graveller and a funn g-wide 50 on the basic tourer, but i know all my local friends are crazy for that drop bump! They just love it, even "waving" looks :))) ok it all makes sense, thanks :)
Hey everyone! Leave a comment with your questions and I’ll try answer. Cockpit parts list in the description 🤙
Have you seen the new Koga Denham handlebar? It is pretty exactly what you were trying to do with your setup. btw. I used a 70cm wide 9° MTB flatbar and put the bar ends (the ones you have in your video) on the inner side between shifters and brakes and some Specialized S-Works Roubaix tape around it. It works perfectly! Excellent for MTB trails and including a nice aero position.
@@DilbertMuc hey, yeah that looks like the VeloOrange crazy bar! Would be a nice setup. Oh cool, smart idea, sounds great! 😁👌
@@toastyrides hey guys what you both are saying is really inspiring, currently on my fattie I have a Kyote with ergo barend grips (that has a good backsweep so at least hands don't get numb) but as I do gravel and I love drops, and really want to try them on a fattie, I can't wait for the Corner to actually be released...! Toasty it's the first video of yours I'm finding, sorry if I missed some previous story (will catch up and I like your diy here too), but may I ask you where you got them from, pleeeeeeez? 😁 from Italy gotta say many i hear are skeptical about the weight and i would indeed prefer alloy (and in the Philipines a serious rider already already did some replica/copy very popular therel but well i'd rather go surly of big tested brands really) but just can't wait and noone knows any actual release dates (roughly of course)... cheers :) !
@@dorianblue4229 hey! Thank you! 🤙 the Kyote bar is very comfortable, I just put mine onto my newest build (the Jamis Dragon) as they had been sitting for a while not used.
yeah I would hope they’ll do a version 2 and make some adjustments and offer an alloy version, too. I got mine from BlueLug, Japan, but they are now sold out.
They released in some countries last month I think, but in small numbers and most places sold out quickly (my country sold out before the release date! 😂).
Yeah definitely with Surly I have no worries about strength 👌 especially being steel! Haha.
I hope you like the other videos, if you do watch them sometime!
Greetings from New Zealand!
@@toastyrides hey mate, i'm back after this couple of days because i'm actually left with one more question... in the Philippines they're full of surly corner replicas, but what is interesting is that some of these copies (that's how they openly call them) are said to be alloy - and lighter. Not that they're so much close to you either, but have you heard of those? (You easily find clips around yt as well). Since you have "the real McCoy" i may guess you'd favour yours, but it's still worth asking :) take your time. Thanks always!! :)
I just modded my knockoff aluminum corner bars exactly like you did. I used an old set of Bontrager race lite magnesium bar ends and cut them so a little bit of the curve remained. I used the We The People Supreme bar end plugs, and filed the bar ends to fit just like you did. It worked awesome and was pretty easy to do. Thank you for the great tip!
I am with you on this. I'm a little concerned about the reliability of this mod. I wish Surly would just leave them long and then let the customer or shop cut to length.
Just fit steel tubes over those horns, it will last a life time
Good idea with extensions I definitely like you’re idea of welding a longer piece on with an outward sweep though
Thanks! Yeah it would be cool to experiment with a couple styles 👌
Thinking of welding this as mentioned, had any ideas on sweep etc? I don’t know where to begin (friend will do the welding)
I had this same idea, managed to find the handlebar extensors on Amazon, cool to see
I really liked this video especially the extensions made to the end where the break levers and the shifters were. Nice! 👍
Reverse evolution of Campy Ergos
Ingenious mod! I have the same handlebar and was thinking of extending the hoods as well. 👌
Make a foam form for the desired extension shape. Cover with CF & epoxy. Vacate form, & extend CF/Epoxy into Surly's horn ends, which should bond well. Yep, then you'd have your custom-fit extension done-right :-)
Woah that’s a cool idea! 👏
I have a set of old school drops that I cut down to make Bullhorns. If I can get bar ends clamped at the bend the Geo would not be dissimilar to your set up but a truck load narrower. 🤔 Hmmmm. Nice hack. 👍 I'm off to bodge😃
You could I think! If you file the inside of the clamp out it should be fine, if there’s enough material 👌 good idea! Would love to see the end result 👍 thanks heaps!
I gave it a go with some Uno Advanced Project bar ends. I managed to shove one on but the clamping bolt is too short to tighten it up, I believe that if you were going off road the shorter reach with more leverage would be great but not having the brakes to hand is , yeah well.
I enjoyed messing around, thanks for the inspiration 👍.
Very clever - well done 👏
Nice video beautiful handlebar
Nice mods mate! And the bike as a whole looks sick! 👌
Cheers! Thanks heaps, it’s heaps of fun this 😁 super comfy, fast and wheelie-able haha. Look forward to some trips with it after lockdown, just need a tent and sleeping setup 👌
Controltech makes a 22.2mm bar end extensions 20mm each side that would increase the length for extra room for your hands at hoods.
Yeah there weren’t any around at the time, and 20mm isn’t much but MGP do some longer ones (that also weren’t in stock haha)
Sweet whip.
Ooh I wanna do this when I get mine
looks really nice!!!
Great adaptation!
for the extender, i think i be using grip rings and slotted them in,. it won;t be looking glorious but i hope that will work.
This is brilliant!
Thanks heaps, Brad! 😁🤙
Cool Video! I use Moloko Bars on my ECR Surly! Time For A Ride 👍.
Awesome content as always 🤙🤙
Thank you 😄🤙
One might actually then just go with bullhorn bars. You would have to turn the levers around so the brake lines run backwards along the bar. And the thumbshifters would have to be swapped left-right.
Brilliant. Why didnt Surly just make them this way!
I have replica from china and I must say very comfy position's and you can feel while driving that there is less air resistance
I was thinking about those as well - are they holding up?
thanks for this... what extensions were you referring to that would've taken 4 weeks for delivery?
Also want to know :)
wow...very nice mod... i'll give it try
Hi there, this is such a cool bike and looks so versatile. I was wondering if you could do a video on this bike alone? A review, why you picked this bike, how you set it up and why?? Cheers! Great channel!
Hi there, I could do yeah! Thanks heaps 🤙
this reminds me the jone h bar (one with rise) i fitted upside down to my bike.
Haha nice! 👌 sounds fun
Wayne Wang PLEASE tell me you uploaded some pics/videos/reviews here or on the socials, i really want to see that :) thanks :)
@@dorianblue4229 yeah I would love to see it, too! 🤩
@@toastyrides hi, sorry for the multple comments and questions :) but you can be flattered, your video really intriguing :) ok i'll just stay chill now, greets from Italy (which we always see as a New Zealand just upside down and split, it's freaky how similar they look :D cheers!)
@@dorianblue4229 no problem at all! It’s nice to have conversations and have this community 👌 I’m very flattered, thank you!!
Hahaha that is true!! 😯👌 nice to meet you!
i think surly have to consider this mod as next version build
Looks great.
Mods to extend huds what I was looking for
Try using a dish sponge and electrical tape for the hood padding!
Oh.It's great!!!!
Rad, dude.
I want a titanium version of the Surly bar. Not willing to go steel (I have a Ti Razorbar).
Sand down some 20mm dowel and insert inside of modifying bar ends.
Could you provide a link to the "scooter" handlebar extensions you were referring to? Not sure if I want to go through the work of make-shifting the bar ends like you did lol. Thanks!
Very nice!
Great video Toasty. What are those colourful grips?
Thank you! Here’s the link, cheap and comfy. Slightly softer than an ODI longneck (the standard, haven’t tried the new “soft” ones)
www.wiggle.co.nz/seal-bmx-switch-grips-limited-edition
@@toastyrides chur brur
You got any old Shimano Dual Action shifter/brake levers try them, they work perfect for this bar. Like mountain STI !
I need to know if theres a way to extend it like you did. If theres a proper attachment because I personally trying to find a way to extend that part because i find it a good hand position.
Control tech Terminator is one, but it’s only 20mm long. MGP Tight As Bar extender for scooters is about 50mm. But a DIY one can be any length 🤌
There are copy bars in the Philippines and elsewhere, But none of them made improvements to address the cons of the corner bar.
I love the mod, and if you're still using them, I'm interested in an update video.
I want to give this a try myself.
Cool bike
Do you have any tips to tidy up the cable with this setup? my cable are really messy.. I switch from flat bar to corner bar and back again to flat bar because of the messy cable routing.. thanks for the video..
Thanks for the video, I have never used drop bars but was looking for possible bar options for extra hand positions/comfort on my Kona Dew and might give this Surly bar a shot.
Thanks for checking it out! Sounds like a good plan, this isn’t too different like dropbars would be. There are also bars like the VeloOrange crazy bar, or Jones Loop bar that you might be interested in 🤙 the Koga Denham bar looks comfy, too!
I put the surly corner bars on my kona dew fs - but I also switched the front forks to rigid carbon ones. I used an adjustable stem to raise the bars up and inwards for a shorter reach and more upright ride. I love them. I also switched to a hollowtech bb and went microShift 1x10 with a 40 to 11-48 drive.
Nice set up, two questions, whats stem is that and where did you get that K head tube sticker!?
Hello dear toasty, what is your fork packing setup?
thanks!
It's a good mod for that position, but wondering how string. I guess their design is just to mount the brakes , not have a top position there..
I was thiking at this point the mod gives you the on the hood drop bar position but why not just use drop bars
What are the scooter extensions you were talking about?
if corner have 75-80 degrees, not 65- will be the best bar ever. waiting for corner2.0 with 75-80 degrees and 31.8.
Is it just me (probably) but I can't get the link for those grips.....gotta have 'em.
I got you 👍
www.wiggle.co.nz/seal-bmx-switch-grips-limited-edition
@@toastyrides Cheers fellah! Keep up the cracking videos. They're like a real world Dream Build.....with more interesting bikes!
@@ronwhite8503 no worries, happy to help! That’s cool to hear, I’m really enjoying putting the content out there 😁🤙 interesting and comfy bikes 😎 haha.
Have fun and happy riding!
Surly should make the bar with longer extensions.
Did you have to raise the bar a bit to get the drops into a more comfortable position? Thanks.
Really appreciate what you did here. About the extension: Why not use a suitable bolt with the extender nuts from an old quill stem instead of that pricey extender lock? Too big for the space? Too much weight? As soon as I saw the lock nut I thought of extender nuts on a quill. Thanks.
Thanks! Yeah one of those could work, if you modified it a bit as it’s too large. But then you have to also make a piece for it to spread/wedge up against that fits the inside diameter of the handlebar.
It would’ve been possible, and complicated, but the barend I used was perfect for the job👌
THANKS
Nice video and great idea on extending the hood! Can you tell me the length of the extension that you use? Thank you✌️
Given they’re super hard to get I’d like to get the right size the first time. Any tips on sizing and stem changes going from a flat bar?
Zniino makes the chinese version of those cornerbars. way more affordable, and actually build to modern standards, do'nt know why surley would charge 140$ for theirs. you can also build your own with a cruiser handlebar and so mtb extensions.
Have you got a link to the extension you couldn’t wait for please
Why nobody puts brakes and shifters on the top bar (flat) ... and use corners/drop just for handling .... like your extension - it would be even better if they would be slightly bent up like the one you cut :)
I would love to see some more detail on how you made the extensions. I understand the concepts but I can figure out how you attached the clamp to the extension bar. You mentioned JB weld but I’m unsure of how you used it. Any help would be much appreciated!
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Who makes those aftermarket extenders that were shown in the video?
My criticism of the Surly bar is that it slips in the handlebar clamp because it's only 25.4mm and it's steel. The Chinese knock off doesn't do that because it's 31.8mm and aluminum.
That sounds like there’s a tolerance issue with your stem, I haven’t had that problem at all. But fair enough I guess, would be annoying if it happened to me too.
@@toastyrides It did happen with the steel bar but it's never happened with the alu bar, same stem. Once it happened I felt uneasy about using it. I don't worry at all with the alu bar. Cheers!
DO use it to break like at 4:43 ? Is it comfortable to do that?
Hello. Is that a 45 degrees stem? May I ask where you got one? Thanks.
is it possible to fix a road shifter on this bar
If you use a shim, the bar is 22.2 so would need a 1.6mm shim to fit the 23.8 road shifter. I don’t know if the road shifter would suit the curve of the bar, I think it would be too aggressive.
It’s meant to convert mtb’s to “dropbar” with mtb components
The outer ends...do your hand ever go there? Seems you could trim 5cm each side.
I run a simple inverted trekking bar and it's damn near perfect. I will give it a go to ovalive the near-the-stem position that I seem to use most for aero reasons but numb up my hands. I did a little test with some strips of foam stacked up to the fore and aft faces of a section of bar. On top of that, a rubber grip cut open like you have in this video, and then a cork bar wrap of sorts.
Please .. how can it buy ??? Because I can't finding in Eu also . Can you send to Link please .. thx 😊
heh it should be in stock))
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Thanks!! 😁🤙
hey man! just wanted to ask ,what size /degree is your stem that you are using?thanks
Hey! It’s a 35 degree stem from memory and I think it’s the 75/80mm version (it has no measurements on it). But because of the angle it only equals about 65mm of reach.
What if you had revert the handle bar in 'up" position? I do find the drop handle below gets the grip hold in the way. I always ignore the norm.😜
Hello! I have a huge question! I want to change from a flat bar to a drop bar but that means change shifter, brakes etc...
Does this corner bars can be adapted to the original brakes and shifter for my flat bar?
Nice build on your bikes man!!!
Yes, it is its purpose. To give you a sorta road bike handlebar that you can use with normal shifters
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What stem are you using in this video?
Hi Sir I am using the same kind of corner bar as you do. I'm just wondering if what is the size of stem that you used? The high rise stem? Thank you sir
I bought one of these out of hype and didnt even realize my right shifter has a gear indicator so my right hoods are totally unusable lol
Do you still use your corner bar? What do you, don't you like about it?
@@guol1806 i dont use it anymore but its not the bar's fault. Its just too much work on my current bike to fit it (longer brake hoses). I went back to my Klunkers for my MTB
where did you buy it?
From Blue Lug, Japan. It was out of stock in my country before it was even for sale 😂
Seemes better to use a titec j-bar or jonesbar from the start instead
Yes they are better with a extension, I’d go to a machine shop get them to mill me 2 up , and use a grub screw to secure
You can't just casually show us a 'Nitto Monkey Banana' and not explain anything about it!! 😂
Bahaha but I did 😂 it’s just a sweet little foam piece for mellowing curves in bars 👌
What grips are those?
Details in the description 🤙
There’s also a link on someone else’s comment 😎
Wow this sounds like Elon Musk talking about his Corner Bar setup
Three steering grip options, but the steering looks monstrous. A gravel steering wheel is better, with a complete replacement of the transmission.
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Yeah Surly really screwed this up. Heavy steel and not enough extension for what is the most widely used part of a dropbar: riding on the hoods.
I think they did a great job but they could’ve made it near perfect. They can definitely make it better in version 2 👌
I think they tried to keep it simple, for flatbar riders but they compromised haha
Yup Surly tried. At least they’re the 1st company to address the desires of flatbar riders who longed to convert to drops but were intimidated by the cost. Still could’ve tested the form factor first before launching but they were probably under a deadline to release it.
@@toastyrides is there any other mod you would suggest to the Surly designers? (else than, i suppose, the longer ends like you did diy here :) ) )
@@dorianblue4229 hmm it’s tough to say 🤔 definitely the “hood” or “nub” extension like I did. I think the angle and drop are a good medium for people. And I like how it doesn’t change reach by much, especially compared to regular drops!
One with a bump in the drop, like Ritchey Venturemax, would be lovely 😂 I love that bump!!
@@toastyrides ok. Great to have one more view on the reach cos indeed i wished to spare more swapping/adjusting of the stem too hehe. And yeah i have an aussie Walmer 60-75 on the graveller and a funn g-wide 50 on the basic tourer, but i know all my local friends are crazy for that drop bump! They just love it, even "waving" looks :))) ok it all makes sense, thanks :)
Bro u sound like Elon musk!
This is madness, you could literally use a wald handlebar n put it upside down😡
Not literally, there’s no Wald like this, but welcome to try it and see how that goes! ..But why are you mad about it? 🤷♂️😂
its ugly