@@karl17abucay I have no real evidence to back this up, but I think it's an ego thing with Dana. PRIDE FC has a very large die hard fan base who refuse to let Dana forget that during the time of its existence the UFC was number 2, or potentially even 3. Dana appears to from my perspective really freaking hate that Chuck threw in the towel in 03. And that he proved the UFC's best at the time was not even good enough to make it to the Semi Finals of a PRIDE Grand Prix. Anything remotely related to PRIDE FC he seems to dislike and try to avoid if at all possible. The only reason the UFC seems to sell PRIDE FC merch, is becuase they know it will sell.
The only way to stop eye pokes is to completely close the fingers up like a boxing glove. Even a boxing glove can poke an eye if the thumb grases your eye. Great video
Many fighter go their whole career without eye pokes, headbutts, and groin shots... these fighters that fight dirty need to be penalized. a strict fine will do what the gloves couldn't.
They can make great gloves if they take the principles of how they design their training gloves which are very comfortable and adapt it to the pro gloves it could work.
What about Trevor Wittman's gloves? I mean I'm sure u can poke with those too but I want to know how they compare to all the others! That's such a cool collection of gloves u have there dude, awesome
It’s really sad how you had to sit there and take that long to explain the obvious but at least I learned a bit about how the manufacturing of gloves works. Thanks dude!
people just have to accept that eye pokes are always going to be in the UFC there is no way to eliminate it other than take a point for every eye poke with a zero tolerance
If the refs actually deducted points instead of giving warnings nearly every time you would magically see eye pokes almost entirely disappear overnight.
At the end of the day, there's a few issues with this video. First and foremost, the new (now old) UFC gloves were *NOT* designed to reduce eyepokes; they were designed to reduce hand breaks and lacerations from the stitching, and they pretty openly were like "sure, I guess they might reduce eyepokes due to the hand being more natural, but that was not the goal" during the launch press conference. Second off, the argument is not that new gloves will eliminate INTENTIONAL eye pokes (you're saying you can simply open your hand and poke people in any fingerless glove), the argument is rather that the resting position in the UFC gloves is an open hand, making you need to manually close your hand if you DON'T want to risk eye pokes, whereas it should be the opposite (like with the Rizin gloves, which look outstanding), where we have the resting position of the hand being curved down. So, once again, at the end of the day, the concern is not being able to eliminate intentional Jon Jones style eye pokes, it's about being able to reduce the amount of unintentional "sorry man, my hand was open" eyepokes. At the end of the day, it was good to hear from someone with experience of all these gloves, but at the end of the day, the entire video is based off of false premises.
Sorry for the late response friend, At the end of the day, I appreciate you bringing up these points because they open up a larger discussion, but let me clarify where I completely disagree with the premise of your comment. First, you’re correct that the gloves were marketed to reduce hand breaks and lacerations-that’s a valid point. However, for years, the primary public outcry regarding UFC gloves has been about eye pokes, and that’s exactly why these gloves were introduced. If you look at the press conferences surrounding UFC 302, multiple fighters, including Dustin Poirier, Islam Makhachev, Sean Strickland, Paulo Costa, and Kevin Holland, openly questioned how these gloves were supposed to stop eye pokes. Randy Brown even made a video on his RUclips channel, explicitly stating that he didn’t see how they addressed the issue of eye pokes, which was a clear selling point of their release. Second, your argument about the glove’s resting position being the issue (open vs. curved) is something I also discussed in the video. I mentioned that no fingerless glove can eliminate intentional eye pokes and that the design of these gloves fails to address even unintentional eye pokes effectively. If anything, the “natural” hand position these gloves claim to support hasn’t prevented incidents-if anything, they’ve stayed the same. Finally, I disagree that the video is based on 'false premises.' My goal was to critique the gloves from my experience, and based on that, I feel the redesign fell short in every meaningful way, whether it’s hand protection, reducing lacerations, or addressing eye pokes. At the end of the day (yes, I say it a lot), I’m sharing an opinion grounded in firsthand experience with these gloves, and I stand by my assessment.
I absolutely value the firsthand experience, and let me make this clear: saying that this video was made under false premises was not, in any way, implying that you were being deceitful/disingenuous. I will reiterate that I very much enjoyed hearing your perspective, as you have much experience with many glove types, and I do not. The false premises are rather #1, the statement that the gloves were *"designed to"* prevent eyepokes, and #2, the "missing the point" so to speak of the outcry for the UFC to have a more curved glove to prevent *unintentional* eyepokes. They were not *designed* to prevent eyepokes, they were designed to prevent hand breaks, with eyepoke reduction being a possible "bonus" so to speak. Again, they specifically said this during the launch. I do think they SHOULD have worked on them with the intent of reducing eyepokes, but they did not. I agree that the gloves fell short, I'm with you on that- but in the video, you put a lot of emphasis on showing how you can still poke someone "if you want to", but nobody has ever argued that we can make fingerless gloves which completely eliminate eyepokes, we all simply want gloves that don't force your hands into an open position when resting, dramatically increasing the probability of an unintentional eyepoke. At the end of the day (this is me genuinely using that term now), we're all on the same team, I think you're being completely genuine, but they did not make the gloves to prevent eyepokes (even though they should've), and having a glove that doesn't force your hand open absolutely WOULD prevent unintentional eyepokes.
For the video, I expected as such- the UFC gloves were so far behind they caught up to modern consumer MMA gloves and still look like they suck. ONX was working on mma gloves too
ONX was trying to provide UFC with new gloves, but theyd wanted to own the design to cover their ass when it comes to production. Whittman would basically have had UFC pay for the production for him.
27 going on 40, my dude-must be all the wisdom and protein shakes aging me like fine wine. What's your secret for staying so youthful? Asking for a friend... 👀
@@combat_corp Brother, what do you think of current boxing gloves? There is a man who wants to propose and popularize the idea of using smaller gloves with a design similar to those used to hit the bag.
really? they are back in use this past weekend. they only got discarded because of Jon Jones and that one card. UFC sucks and we should all just stop watching it.
It a general consensus that pride had the best gloves but Dana’s ego won’t let him adopt that style of glove 😂😂😂
ever heard of the RIZIN FF gloves?
@@Zolified984 Are rizen really that good?
@@0b100 RIZIN is the best next to PRIDE gloves, RIZIN is the best MMA a promotion rn imo
Which is weird considering they literally already own them 😂
@@thegipper1215 The gloves are made by some other JP company I believe, might own the design too
RIZIN has the best gloves imo, basically PRIDE FC gloves but improved in many small ways.
I agree!
Hell yeah, how Dana didn't notice this best mma gloves
@@karl17abucay I have no real evidence to back this up, but I think it's an ego thing with Dana. PRIDE FC has a very large die hard fan base who refuse to let Dana forget that during the time of its existence the UFC was number 2, or potentially even 3. Dana appears to from my perspective really freaking hate that Chuck threw in the towel in 03. And that he proved the UFC's best at the time was not even good enough to make it to the Semi Finals of a PRIDE Grand Prix. Anything remotely related to PRIDE FC he seems to dislike and try to avoid if at all possible. The only reason the UFC seems to sell PRIDE FC merch, is becuase they know it will sell.
Trevor Wittman has some decent gloves too
The only way to stop eye pokes is to completely close the fingers up like a boxing glove. Even a boxing glove can poke an eye if the thumb grases your eye. Great video
Thank you!
Many fighter go their whole career without eye pokes, headbutts, and groin shots... these fighters that fight dirty need to be penalized. a strict fine will do what the gloves couldn't.
THANK YOU
They can make great gloves if they take the principles of how they design their training gloves which are very comfortable and adapt it to the pro gloves it could work.
They’re so bad that they’re going to keep using them in the apex.
Makes no sense.
What about Trevor Wittman's gloves? I mean I'm sure u can poke with those too but I want to know how they compare to all the others! That's such a cool collection of gloves u have there dude, awesome
It’s really sad how you had to sit there and take that long to explain the obvious but at least I learned a bit about how the manufacturing of gloves works. Thanks dude!
a voice of reason in the sea of casuals. great video man
Thank you!
Rev gear has great gloves
Agreed!
If only they used sanabul ufc gloves
people just have to accept that eye pokes are always going to be in the UFC there is no way to eliminate it other than take a point for every eye poke with a zero tolerance
AGREED
Even better, they have to stand still for a second while the ref pokes them in the eye too to equall it out. People only respond to pain.
Exactly take away a point regardless of intention it’s still fair since an eye poke often effects the fighter for the rest of the fight too
@@tigadirtit should be a spec of pepper lol
If the refs actually deducted points instead of giving warnings nearly every time you would magically see eye pokes almost entirely disappear overnight.
Certainly Venum, the UFC clothing sponser makes a good mma glove they sell to the public. Just rebrand the best one they got
That was the VERY first thought. There may be a manufacturing deal though
Hmmm. Have you ever had a chance to try the newer everlast bellator mma gloves? They were apparently proven to reduce eye pokes
They should just partner with viper to make gloves
I hope they keep the gold gloves for the championship fights
At the end of the day, there's a few issues with this video. First and foremost, the new (now old) UFC gloves were *NOT* designed to reduce eyepokes; they were designed to reduce hand breaks and lacerations from the stitching, and they pretty openly were like "sure, I guess they might reduce eyepokes due to the hand being more natural, but that was not the goal" during the launch press conference. Second off, the argument is not that new gloves will eliminate INTENTIONAL eye pokes (you're saying you can simply open your hand and poke people in any fingerless glove), the argument is rather that the resting position in the UFC gloves is an open hand, making you need to manually close your hand if you DON'T want to risk eye pokes, whereas it should be the opposite (like with the Rizin gloves, which look outstanding), where we have the resting position of the hand being curved down. So, once again, at the end of the day, the concern is not being able to eliminate intentional Jon Jones style eye pokes, it's about being able to reduce the amount of unintentional "sorry man, my hand was open" eyepokes. At the end of the day, it was good to hear from someone with experience of all these gloves, but at the end of the day, the entire video is based off of false premises.
Dana officially said they were created with the intent to stop finger pokes. Your are wrong...
Sorry for the late response friend,
At the end of the day, I appreciate you bringing up these points because they open up a larger discussion, but let me clarify where I completely disagree with the premise of your comment.
First, you’re correct that the gloves were marketed to reduce hand breaks and lacerations-that’s a valid point. However, for years, the primary public outcry regarding UFC gloves has been about eye pokes, and that’s exactly why these gloves were introduced. If you look at the press conferences surrounding UFC 302, multiple fighters, including Dustin Poirier, Islam Makhachev, Sean Strickland, Paulo Costa, and Kevin Holland, openly questioned how these gloves were supposed to stop eye pokes. Randy Brown even made a video on his RUclips channel, explicitly stating that he didn’t see how they addressed the issue of eye pokes, which was a clear selling point of their release.
Second, your argument about the glove’s resting position being the issue (open vs. curved) is something I also discussed in the video. I mentioned that no fingerless glove can eliminate intentional eye pokes and that the design of these gloves fails to address even unintentional eye pokes effectively. If anything, the “natural” hand position these gloves claim to support hasn’t prevented incidents-if anything, they’ve stayed the same.
Finally, I disagree that the video is based on 'false premises.' My goal was to critique the gloves from my experience, and based on that, I feel the redesign fell short in every meaningful way, whether it’s hand protection, reducing lacerations, or addressing eye pokes. At the end of the day (yes, I say it a lot), I’m sharing an opinion grounded in firsthand experience with these gloves, and I stand by my assessment.
I absolutely value the firsthand experience, and let me make this clear: saying that this video was made under false premises was not, in any way, implying that you were being deceitful/disingenuous. I will reiterate that I very much enjoyed hearing your perspective, as you have much experience with many glove types, and I do not. The false premises are rather #1, the statement that the gloves were *"designed to"* prevent eyepokes, and #2, the "missing the point" so to speak of the outcry for the UFC to have a more curved glove to prevent *unintentional* eyepokes. They were not *designed* to prevent eyepokes, they were designed to prevent hand breaks, with eyepoke reduction being a possible "bonus" so to speak. Again, they specifically said this during the launch. I do think they SHOULD have worked on them with the intent of reducing eyepokes, but they did not.
I agree that the gloves fell short, I'm with you on that- but in the video, you put a lot of emphasis on showing how you can still poke someone "if you want to", but nobody has ever argued that we can make fingerless gloves which completely eliminate eyepokes, we all simply want gloves that don't force your hands into an open position when resting, dramatically increasing the probability of an unintentional eyepoke.
At the end of the day (this is me genuinely using that term now), we're all on the same team, I think you're being completely genuine, but they did not make the gloves to prevent eyepokes (even though they should've), and having a glove that doesn't force your hand open absolutely WOULD prevent unintentional eyepokes.
Wonder if Trevor Wittmans would prevent it?
It could! They arent released to the public though
For the video, I expected as such- the UFC gloves were so far behind they caught up to modern consumer MMA gloves and still look like they suck.
ONX was working on mma gloves too
ONX was trying to provide UFC with new gloves, but theyd wanted to own the design to cover their ass when it comes to production. Whittman would basically have had UFC pay for the production for him.
Dude I’m sorry you said you’re 27 lmao??? You literally look 40 years old….
27 going on 40, my dude-must be all the wisdom and protein shakes aging me like fine wine. What's your secret for staying so youthful? Asking for a friend... 👀
great insight ,suybscribed
Great video!
You never reviewed the Shooto gloves. What makes you prefer the Rizen gloves over the Shooto ones?
Shooto gloves are basically the same except theyre less curved and has a thumb guard.
As a fan, i dint like them because of the looks 😂
“At the end of the day”
My wife says I have "catch phrases" and calls them "Alisms" 🤣
Shot for every time he says “end of the day”
@@almarro5643 lol
@@almarro5643 your videos are great
I've never had any of the UFC gloves but I do have a pair of Bellator gloves and I think they are f****** great
Everlast power locks are awesome! I have fought in them a few times and they are one of my favorites
Ufc must partner with ISAMI
That would be the best move
Poke
POKE!
@@combat_corp Brother, what do you think of current boxing gloves? There is a man who wants to propose and popularize the idea of using smaller gloves with a design similar to those used to hit the bag.
really? they are back in use this past weekend. they only got discarded because of Jon Jones and that one card. UFC sucks and we should all just stop watching it.
U do u