MASSIVE CHANGES | New Warframe | Inaros & Yareli Buff | Eclipse Nerf | New Augments!

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  • MASSIVE CHANGES | New Warframe | Inaros & Yareli Buff | Eclipse Nerf | New Augments!
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    What's good folks?!
    I'm here with a look at the new changes that came with the recent dev stream.
    Enjoy!
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    00:00 - Introduction
    00:50 - Dante Perks + New Mission
    02:44 - Dante Abilities
    07:37 - Eclipse Nerf
    10:12 - Eclipse Mechanics + Issues
    12:35 - Eclipse Changes Not Bad
    15:21 - Khal Mission Changes
    16:09 - Netracell Changes
    17:48 - Inaros Rework
    25:52 - New Augments
    28:09 - Yareli + Loki Buff
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  • @KnightmareFrame
    @KnightmareFrame  3 месяца назад +26

    For those who watched the vid or the Devstream, what are you excited or not happy about?

    • @kira47to47
      @kira47to47 3 месяца назад +8

      Not excited at all since half my gear is modded for eclipse for eidolon hunts.

    • @kira47to47
      @kira47to47 3 месяца назад +2

      Most of the community they don't play eidolon, there are literally players who only play this game, for eidolon hunts, now they fcked up years of builds depending on eclipse, now with the community lost eidolon hunters gl buying cheap energize, if its mathematically this bad as they claiming it to be, gonna delete my account and i know most of my friends who play this game from 2013 and we do eidolon hunts together with vectis rubico snipetron some rifles knell vasto now all this wont work the same it was for many years.
      well, last patch and coming patch its just killing the diversity of the game and the whole point why old players still sticking to the game, there gonna be now more revenant users for endurance, and now for eidolon to be even able to do efficient run you. Can only play volt with probably a god of god sniper roll riven and it wont even be as good as it was. I like to be able to use multiple frames to play my favorite game mode i like to play eidolon with anyframe or weapon and yet it's still fun and effective, we invested in the game money time we got them more players and kept other players around. And how they treat us is just by taking our comfort zone... it's a big deal for people who spend their free time to play a mode they got used to play for many years.

    • @jagmbaksvshsh
      @jagmbaksvshsh 3 месяца назад +6

      are you interested in making a video about the official " eclipse feedback forum post" where people voted with toggle because DE said only the helminth will get nerfed not mirage herself?
      You are a big youtuber you can spread this message because this is just unfair.. how they treat us and lie and nerf Mirage ontop when they said they wouldn't do that..
      I try to contact more youtubers but no one seems to notice the forum post

    • @firby7341
      @firby7341 3 месяца назад +2

      excited for dante himself, not happy aka destroyed inside after eclipse changes. my first thought was: why would i play eclipse over roar now? i havent come up with an answer yet...and i dont think i will

    • @arta616
      @arta616 3 месяца назад

      im excited to piss some sweaty pubs while doing 99% of damage dealt to 50 enemy in some mission with chroma+glaivep

  • @chasekidd
    @chasekidd 3 месяца назад +13

    I don't understand how Pablo can think that the Eclipse nerf isn't huge.

    • @jagmbaksvshsh
      @jagmbaksvshsh 3 месяца назад

      GUYS DE REVERTED THE MIRAGE CHANGES ONLY HELMINTH GETS NERFED ! ❤

  • @alghazi4243
    @alghazi4243 3 месяца назад +9

    My Egyptian heart is in tears, finally...inaros will be less dog shit
    I will finally get less death threats and pipe bombs in my mail when i use him

  • @BarbiePerret
    @BarbiePerret 3 месяца назад +4

    The pacing is so well-calibrated; it's like a journey with no bumps, just smooth brilliance.💝

  • @gawrgurafan31
    @gawrgurafan31 3 месяца назад +7

    "We can change Eclipse to work more reliably, but may need to reduce its effectiveness when used as a Helminth ability by reducing its power, duration, or other factors.
    Eclipse is already the 2nd most popular Helminth ability, so removing its main barrier to entry (reliability) would mean a rebalance is in order. This effectiveness reduction would not affect the ability for Mirage, only when applied from the Helminth." - [DE]Juice
    (from Eclipse Feedback Megathread)

    • @stephenschneekloth1535
      @stephenschneekloth1535 3 месяца назад +4

      So what you're say is they fucking lied

    • @sarynfart3453
      @sarynfart3453 3 месяца назад +4

      @@stephenschneekloth1535 yeah.. check forum thread. They fkn lied

    • @FluffyWing07
      @FluffyWing07 3 месяца назад +2

      So wither they lied in the thread or in the stream.

    • @jagmbaksvshsh
      @jagmbaksvshsh 3 месяца назад

      GUYS DE REVERTED THE MIRAGE CHANGES ONLY HELMINTH GETS NERFED ! ❤

    • @FluffyWing07
      @FluffyWing07 3 месяца назад

      @jagmbaksvshsh yea, many ppl, including me, were screaming in the wf forum. If enough ppl conplain, they usually listen. Thank god they listened...

  • @mileserwin
    @mileserwin 2 месяца назад +6

    Stynax, Kulervo, Rhyno, and now Inaros. The Revenant-ification of warframe has started...

  • @Jynogre
    @Jynogre 3 месяца назад +3

    Just another thing on the Exalted Grimoire for Dante, you don't have to actually ever draw it as you can summon a floating "Copy" *Word specifically used by Rebb) of Noctua, so if it's a copy and not just a arbitrary book it should in theory proc all the mods you have on it without you ever having to actually use it essentially :D

  • @knicklichtjedi
    @knicklichtjedi 3 месяца назад +3

    Eclipse Nerf in very very very very very rough calculations:
    Base Stats: 1000 damage, serration, split chamber, 85% crit rate, 3.5x crit damage, 150% elemental damage, p. merciless, 200% strength eclipse
    Before: 1000 * (1 + 0,3 * 12 + 1,65) * 1,9 * (0,85 * (1 + 3,5)) * (1 + 1,5) * 4 = 454218
    After: 1000 * (1 + 0,3 * 12 + 1,65 + 4) * 1,9 * (0,85 * (1 + 3,5)) * (1 + 1,5) = 186229
    Or without Serration:
    Before: 1000 * (1 + 0,3 * 12) * 1,9 * (0,85 * 4,5) * (1 + 1,5) * 4 = 334305
    After: 1000 * (1 + 0,3 * 12 + 4) * 1,9 * (0,85 * 4,5) * (1 + 1,5) = 156251
    So if you do not change your builds at all, we can roughly say your damage will ~50% less. Buuut this is only true, as long as we have 100% buff eclipse. As soon as eclipse drops to 40-50% of its value, the new eclipse with the same builds - which you won't do, you would go for more multiplicative scaling - is suddenly equal or even better than the old one.

    • @knicklichtjedi
      @knicklichtjedi 3 месяца назад

      So, yeah I agree. The nerf sounds harder than it probably will be.
      And we get the upside of having the option to run some fun new arcanes we never ran before!

    • @jagmbaksvshsh
      @jagmbaksvshsh 3 месяца назад

      GUYS DE REVERTED THE MIRAGE CHANGES ONLY HELMINTH GETS NERFED ! ❤

  • @randomthepyro2058
    @randomthepyro2058 3 месяца назад +5

    (i main yareli, so biased of course)... everyone seems to hate on muralina because kdrive.. but just like playing titania, you learn to adjust and can still be just as fast. if not faster, than most frames doing their best parkour.
    yes, some tile sets are a bit annoying due to the bigger hitbox. but having 90% damage reduction is HUGE when in comes to surviving.
    yareli and titania actually share a lot of similarities, so if you like titania and can adjust to using the kdrive. try yareli out, she's surprisingly versatile and can dish out a lot of damage with certain builds

    • @Male_Parent
      @Male_Parent 3 месяца назад +3

      Merulina is tanky as hell. They can tank multi thousand level enemies when I was playing steel path circuit.

    • @chicomaroto
      @chicomaroto 3 месяца назад

      I like her but sucks that you can't use primaries and helminth abilities while riding merulina

    • @chicomaroto
      @chicomaroto 3 месяца назад +1

      I suppose you lose knockback resistance since you're not riding merulina

    • @randomthepyro2058
      @randomthepyro2058 3 месяца назад

      @@chicomaroto if youre going to helmith, go with duration based abilities, roar/nourish/xata whisper, etc
      if the augment keeps the 90% DR and muralina's health bar buffer... its a S+ augment. and makes the frame one of the best all-around frames

  • @morgan79737
    @morgan79737 3 месяца назад +4

    The archimedean circuit mode sounds like everything I've ever wanted. Hard to complain about this devstream tbh.

    • @Jean-gf3dj
      @Jean-gf3dj 3 месяца назад +2

      Only big complaint most have is eclipse changes which I get cause they they wouldn’t nerf it on mirage but that seemed to be a lie

  • @Exodia.404
    @Exodia.404 3 месяца назад +5

    Protea has a universal Aura mod slot

  • @_kal_storm4785
    @_kal_storm4785 3 месяца назад +4

    1:40 protea has a universal polarity too

  • @joaopvcamacho
    @joaopvcamacho 3 месяца назад +4

    1:44 Protea also has a universal aura polarity

  • @ragedkoala6158
    @ragedkoala6158 3 месяца назад +104

    This kills mirage as a frame other than her weird little ESO builds. This really didnt need a nerf imo

    • @jagmbaksvshsh
      @jagmbaksvshsh 3 месяца назад +77

      DE said in the forum post that they will ONLY nerf the helminth variant but NOT Mirage herself.
      They scammed us people.. we voted in that post because they said ONLY Helminth was nerfed.
      Absolutely disgusting behavior from DE

    • @ragedkoala6158
      @ragedkoala6158 3 месяца назад +20

      @jagmbaksvshsh exactly, i dont see why they couldnt just nerf the number either. Like wtf why change how it works its so lame

    • @jagmbaksvshsh
      @jagmbaksvshsh 3 месяца назад +19

      @@ragedkoala6158 yea exactly.
      they said if they make it toggle they have to reduce the effectiveness on the helminth only.
      the people say "yes alright do it toggle"
      What does DE do?
      change it entirely and also nerf it insanely for Mirage herself, which they literally said they wouldn't do..

    • @shib5267
      @shib5267 3 месяца назад +13

      ​@jagmbaksvshsh brother, it's a game. Calm down and play something else

    • @GabeHowardd
      @GabeHowardd 3 месяца назад +38

      ​@@shib5267maybe he invested something into it, when people invest on things they will be upset when they get shitted on, it's normal.

  • @peepeepo111
    @peepeepo111 3 месяца назад +3

    Glad to see Inaros is getting a fix, shame they had to completely gut mirage :/ i was working on farming her prime, hopefully they get around to that soon
    Also side note: Protea was first frame with a universal polarity

  • @Stardust_Seraph
    @Stardust_Seraph 2 месяца назад +4

    I feel like the Yareli augment should be how the base ability works and you just push interact to mount Merulina optionally instead but it's a nice augment anyways I guess

  • @pathfindersavant3988
    @pathfindersavant3988 3 месяца назад +1

    Decoy is Loki's Helminth. I wanna see how well the Loki Augment pairs with Revenant or Nyx.
    Also, since the effect supposedly procs from enemies attacking the decoy, I wonder if it would still be worthwhile using it with my current Banish Loki setup.

  • @yurygrazzini4912
    @yurygrazzini4912 3 месяца назад +6

    why they do this Nerf?? They should rework Chroma, Better Vex Armour and traasform the first ability similar to toxic lash of Saryn where u can chose the Element u will add to your weapon letting him separate from fusion with other element as toxic Lash DO. JUST THIS WILL TRASFORM CHROMA IN THE MOSTER IT SHOULD BE, UNLEASH THE CHROMA POWER: What u think about this This? Do U Like this Idea?

  • @FluffyWing07
    @FluffyWing07 3 месяца назад +6

    Nerfing eclipse as a helminth is fine by me but it nerfs our lady mirage a lot. She already that squishy, why not let us keep her dmg😢

    • @diosbizarreadventure7383
      @diosbizarreadventure7383 3 месяца назад +1

      Mirage is definitely not a glass canon but yeah the nerf to damage buff is pretty harsh , i really liked the clussy but she might become unplayable in steel path as good as she was previously.

    • @jagmbaksvshsh
      @jagmbaksvshsh 3 месяца назад

      GUYS DE REVERTED THE MIRAGE CHANGES ONLY HELMINTH GETS NERFED ! ❤

  • @Babobenni_
    @Babobenni_ 3 месяца назад +3

    Decoy is a helmith ability btw.

  • @noahedenborg4221
    @noahedenborg4221 3 месяца назад +2

    yareli augment = sea snare free healmtih slot?
    baruuk augment could be used with a duration strength baruuk which then gives u more helmith options
    citrine could spread the spread which would spread again and again

  • @KartyrOfficial
    @KartyrOfficial 3 месяца назад +4

    THEY REVERTED THE ECLIPSE NERF so consider the eclipse complaints outdated

    • @matts8281
      @matts8281 2 месяца назад

      But only on mirage right? Not the helminth version

  • @TheJimothy_
    @TheJimothy_ 3 месяца назад +2

    I literally just got my mirage prime cooking in the foundry and then i hear about what is happening to her ability. How unfortunate yet fortunate

    • @TheJimothy_
      @TheJimothy_ 3 месяца назад

      welp I'm back after the dev shorts. and just gotta say: LETS GO ITS A TOGGLE AND THEY ARENT COMPLETELY NERFING THE ABILITY YIPPEEE

  • @stephenwang9623
    @stephenwang9623 3 месяца назад +3

    eclipse has to be implemented on every new map they decide to release. Its a pain in the ass to program the lighting system in the new maps so they just got lazy and decided to destroy the ability instead. For example if you dont understand what i mean, on netracell runs, the eclipse only gives a default 75% shadow cast even though there are areas with light and what not. its quite annoying to see my favourite damage buff be nerfed so hard.

  • @Kullervo456
    @Kullervo456 3 месяца назад +1

    They should have gave players the ability to swap between riding Yareli's Maralina and using it as a companion using tap/hold functionality.

  • @kaimeraprime
    @kaimeraprime 3 месяца назад +7

    I'm just glad every dam build I see from CC's won't have nourish on it by default. Will have people actually trying some other builds.

  • @EcchiOtakuTM
    @EcchiOtakuTM 3 месяца назад

    Almost forgot to mention, I'm kinda excited to come from a warframe break and try aznvasion's inaros build with the rework.

  • @MasterAarott
    @MasterAarott 3 месяца назад

    So I've just assumed that eclipse was additional damage all this time, because that's in line with most every other buff in the game. So the only thing I'm mad about is that there's been yet another detail on an otherwise entirely straightforward ability that has important minutiae secreted in the wiki.

  • @TeosRedent
    @TeosRedent 3 месяца назад +1

    I was farming another mirage to subsume eclipse for my Wisp... Oh well she's gonna keep empower.

  • @DudeStrudl
    @DudeStrudl 3 месяца назад +9

    not gona lie dante will be just mastery fodder for me

    • @thenightingale7405
      @thenightingale7405 3 месяца назад +2

      With the new activity requiring certain frames to increase your loot, I think it's worth setting a goal of getting every frame in the game up to a baseline playable level.

    • @devar7502
      @devar7502 3 месяца назад

      ​@@thenightingale7405I did set that as my goal and knowing this feels good since I've got a few frames left. But...

  • @ericksamirmartinez4430
    @ericksamirmartinez4430 3 месяца назад

    I'm pretty happy about the above that you're at least getting I've been using her for a long time and I like her a lot one of my favorite warframes🎉🎉🎉

  • @infamoswordz
    @infamoswordz 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm so grateful that we still have Volt. All the new frames from 2023 to 2024 have been mild

  • @Leon-eq6ei
    @Leon-eq6ei 3 месяца назад +1

    I think the chroma augment could be really good because you can get rid of combat discipline and also you can get rid of one healing slot. This frees 1 slot. And also the vex armor duration buff is nice. And to be honest the damage reduction is good because your bad teammates wont die in archon hunts and drag you down.

  • @fatalfever7781
    @fatalfever7781 3 месяца назад +2

    Can you convince dev to, where we can save aircrafts to loadouts to match frames

  • @unknownuser4604
    @unknownuser4604 3 месяца назад +2

    Definitely finna main Yareli after this

  • @IVIunir
    @IVIunir 3 месяца назад

    Crazy how we had the same response bar for bar when they said its like chromas buff😂

  • @nitto420s
    @nitto420s 3 месяца назад +2

    They need make Universal exilus so can put any polarity

  • @alcorthewise3512
    @alcorthewise3512 2 месяца назад +2

    Rip mirage I guess? I suppose it makes modding a bit more involved, so no more "one and done with eclipse" builds.
    Nourish, no matter the tweak or nerf, is king for a good reason, damage and energy returns is something EVERYONE wants, so of course the margins are so high. That helminth chart showed that, though what surprised me is the lack of substantial silence users since you can slap that on a frame and max it in one run of like 4 minutes

  • @itzcheeze8647
    @itzcheeze8647 2 месяца назад +1

    6:40 anyone else notice this is literally Christmas music? Is that in the game or on his stream? lol

  • @nickrobinson5715
    @nickrobinson5715 3 месяца назад

    I will say that the merulina could be easier to ride it with the changes to the grippy corners in the same update. Being forced to use secondary and not being able to use helminth abilities does still suck

  • @exotixkdm
    @exotixkdm 3 месяца назад +1

    arcanes tier list nice vid but i need that list rn rn

  • @michaelfrazier1632
    @michaelfrazier1632 3 месяца назад +4

    I’m a 2 year player working on 3 and don’t use the ability that’s getting nerfed and changed I just don’t like that because it’s popular it gets nerfed that means any ability that becomes to popular it’s going to get nerfed that’s a dumb way to do things but a it’s not my game it’s De game

  • @christiangonzales3337
    @christiangonzales3337 3 месяца назад +4

    Hopefully the nourish nerf will not be bad

    • @diosbizarreadventure7383
      @diosbizarreadventure7383 3 месяца назад +4

      * Flashbacks to AOE nerf *

    • @stephenschneekloth1535
      @stephenschneekloth1535 3 месяца назад +1

      Funny thing is, DE doesn't tend to understand why things are popular, so they will probably just nerf the damage and no one will care.

    • @lag00n54
      @lag00n54 3 месяца назад +1

      @@stephenschneekloth1535 i mean pablo knows even if they nerf it people will still use it eitherway

    • @Solzen_
      @Solzen_ 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@stephenschneekloth1535in the devstream, they mentioned how nourish was popular because of the viral application and energy gain.
      They know. And they know what makes other things overpowered. They just choose not to nerf those aspects most of the time, as doing so would damage the fundamental appeal.

  • @datmd100
    @datmd100 2 месяца назад

    dante reminds me of protea with the universal aura slot

  • @325figgy
    @325figgy 3 месяца назад

    Love the new Frame already and cant wait to get my hands on him. Looks like Harrow, Wisp, Kullervo, and Equinox all had a baby.
    Excited to see what Pablo did to Inaros now that he got put back into the oven.
    ...while I'm happy that Eclipse got reworked, i gotta say that dmg nerf in exchange is likely to make Mirage go the way of the dodo bird tbh.

  • @sikacaks
    @sikacaks 3 месяца назад +2

    protea is the first warframe has universal aura polarity

  • @animeking-fc7pd
    @animeking-fc7pd 3 месяца назад +9

    So roar is officially better than eclipse now

  • @wagaapoy9219
    @wagaapoy9219 3 месяца назад +2

    I guess roar is just the only way to go now

  • @Yesuhey
    @Yesuhey 3 месяца назад

    Wow love the changes, so many possibilities

  • @Zibit21
    @Zibit21 3 месяца назад +1

    New Inaros looks great 👌
    I'm looking forward to trying him out 😁

    • @alghazi4243
      @alghazi4243 3 месяца назад +2

      We eating good this year

    • @alghazi4243
      @alghazi4243 3 месяца назад

      We will get less pipe bombs in our mail when we use him now

    • @3rdeyemang
      @3rdeyemang 3 месяца назад

      ​@@alghazi4243Not funny

  • @Logan31337
    @Logan31337 3 месяца назад +3

    I’m a chroma main and this update makes me so sad. Like I’m excited for Dante, but gutting eclipse and making it a free/EZ vex armor edges chroma out of the already tiny niche he has. The augment seems like it COULD be good and make him better, but that mod almost requires gloom now if he’s just constantly eating team damage. RIP Dwagon

    • @Nerthiril
      @Nerthiril 3 месяца назад

      Ngl even before eclipse changes it was still better vex armor. Just one required light and the other requires damage. But this just screws chroma hard as not only is it free damage instead of ramping like chroma. But also it is higher than chroma’s too and easier. There is a new augment apparently for chroma that makes it so you take health damage whenever your squad takes damage. You heal when they kill, and vex armor duration refreshes when they kill. But that isn’t going to save the fact eclipse is 350 additive and VA is 275

    • @Logan31337
      @Logan31337 3 месяца назад

      @@Nerthiril oh no I completely agree, I just have trouble at times coming to terms w how trash chroma really is. Lol cope is real.

    • @Nerthiril
      @Nerthiril 3 месяца назад

      @@Logan31337 yah was a chroma main since I got them and then when chroma prime came out I got it asap. Played when VA was multiplicative and was completely gutted when they nerfed it. The last chroma rework was a slap in the face like DE was thinking “yah no one plays chroma anymore, let’s just let him change elements and jump more to make them feel like we care” he is rn only used for credit farm on pt. How the mighty have fallen.

    • @Logan31337
      @Logan31337 3 месяца назад

      @@Nerthiril I pour one out for old VA. I tip my hat to you, from one legend to another.

    • @Nerthiril
      @Nerthiril 3 месяца назад

      @@Logan31337 all the chroma players should just have a mass exodus from chroma. Don’t even use it for PT or subsume over vex, tank their popularity so low it makes caliban look popular. Maybe then DE will finally take a proper look at them. I swapped chroma for voruna and honestly that showed me what an actual frame looked and played like and makes me wish chroma could be like that too in its own way.

  • @Cathidy
    @Cathidy 3 месяца назад +7

    as a yareli player, im super disappointed.
    There are literally like 6 yareli players, why does DE think we play yareli and DONT enjoy merulina? im tight

    • @AlvinEarthworm
      @AlvinEarthworm 3 месяца назад +4

      It's an optional augment. You don't need to use it.

    • @Cathidy
      @Cathidy 3 месяца назад +2

      @@AlvinEarthworm I know, I'm not going to use it. I'm just sayiing calling this a yareli buff when it's an augment that only helps people who don't like yareli makes no sense

  • @F-Fer
    @F-Fer 3 месяца назад

    I like the font of your chat, what is it called?

  • @dicgrase4719
    @dicgrase4719 3 месяца назад +3

    Dont be mentioning roar too much
    they might just make that an additive damage increase too

  • @empatheticfrog2052
    @empatheticfrog2052 3 месяца назад +1

    I dont see how the yarelie agument is mandatory? Even if theres areas you need to hop of her pets insanely cheap and the movements fun.

  • @daguy462
    @daguy462 3 месяца назад +1

    Protea has a universal slot too

  • @Dortoc
    @Dortoc 3 месяца назад +3

    he said damage looks mid when they didn’t build the frame😭

  • @plaguedr.crowvin3349
    @plaguedr.crowvin3349 3 месяца назад +5

    ROAR-lords Unite!

  • @Aros-pr2xr
    @Aros-pr2xr 2 месяца назад +2

    This guy looks interesting… but they are using him I think minimally modded (or just poorly modded)

  • @LeaderTaurus
    @LeaderTaurus 3 месяца назад

    ripkas with hunters bonesaw might actualy be decent now with inaros? :P

  • @SleazyRoseWalker
    @SleazyRoseWalker 3 месяца назад +3

    I've mained Chroma ever since i first got him, but was shattered and frustrated when he got his Prime, since they changed Vex to be additive. But with time, i accepted it and rolled along. I still enjoy playing him.
    But now seeing Mirage getting the same nerf, i'm laughing.
    Every Mirage main will feel the same pain as Chroma mains did xD

    • @Nerthiril
      @Nerthiril 3 месяца назад +1

      It isn’t even as bad as chroma’s nerf. Chroma still needs to be damaged to get their buff and is only at base 275% eclipse can toggle between a better 350% base and 90% dr depending on what they need. For those who say chroma is better cause they get armor bonus and damage probably don’t play chroma. No one runs chroma for the armor bonus as it’s negligible. All it does is make steel fiber not needed and I just run adaptation instead as it’s better than all the armor in the world VA could give me. Mirage gets a free always up adaptation for all elements while chroma gets some slight damage reduction that scales poorly in later areas

    • @SleazyRoseWalker
      @SleazyRoseWalker 3 месяца назад

      @@Nerthiril for what is better will always be completely subjective. It comes down to what a player enjoys playing. You got casual players, and the sweats who don't use something that's not capable of standing against level cap

    • @Nerthiril
      @Nerthiril 3 месяца назад

      @@SleazyRoseWalker I know that better is a matter of opinion but I’m going by a strictly numbers point of view. 275% additive that requires you taking 100hp of damage to get is lower than 350% that only requires you to press a button.

    • @SleazyRoseWalker
      @SleazyRoseWalker 3 месяца назад

      @@Nerthiril yes, but i don't see what that has to do with the original comment? All i said was, if i rephrase it: "yes it sucks to have your fav frame's dmg skill nerfed to the ground, just like it happened to Chroma."
      But you came explaining that Mirage is better than Chroma and that nobody plays him because of the armour. Why this elitist mindset? Do know that not everyone cares about going only for the best in slot option, or only pick frames that can turn invincible or have 95% DR when it comes to wanting to be tanky

    • @Nerthiril
      @Nerthiril 3 месяца назад

      @@SleazyRoseWalker sorry if I came across as elitist, that wasn’t my intention at all, Imo it’s probably because I am upset at how far chroma has fallen and really want him to be back in the spotlight for anything except using his 4 for pt credit farm. And I have seen plenty of posts saying that they will just subsume eclipse/roar over vex armor. Just want chroma to have a win once in a while and thinking about your posts and others, yes chroma’s armor and eclipse do have their own uses and advantages, because you can either have both at lower or one and the other at higher so chroma is more reliable in the fact you can not die as easily, and eclipse is just instant one or the other but looses out on tankyness or damage
      Though thinking of it the reason why chroma’s armor may be lower amounts is unlike eclipse it is an aoe. Just from my personal experience going str/range makes it a slog to play chroma due to how much you have to press vex armor and blind rage makes it unsustainable unless you have an energy gen frame on your team. Though his new augment may put an end to both issues making narrow minded not as needed to keep vex armor up and we can play a proper aoe support/tank chroma

  • @malikmuhleek8834
    @malikmuhleek8834 2 месяца назад

    We share the same name, no way I can be talked out of not farming him

  • @zentwo_
    @zentwo_ 3 месяца назад

    More chances to get shard is nice, but i rather would like to see them doing something with you need a billion of red shards and couple of other.

  • @Ocerkin
    @Ocerkin 3 месяца назад

    the yareli augment should be innate with the OPTION to ride it like the velocipods on deimos

  • @Bluesklues19
    @Bluesklues19 3 месяца назад +2

    I disagree it’s not a bandaid fix for Yareli although most don’t like the k drive factor about her there some that prolly do including me I think it’s fun and she is powerful enough with her survivability that one mod slot will not affect her to much

    • @noahedenborg4221
      @noahedenborg4221 3 месяца назад +1

      well it also might completely free up her 1 as a helmith slot cus the board would cast it

  • @erenyeager3952
    @erenyeager3952 2 месяца назад

    I used to be a chroma main in 2017 now when I look at him it's like he's one of the forgotten children like inaros😂

  • @cheesejuice_
    @cheesejuice_ 3 месяца назад +1

    Lavos casually getting 7% dmg per abi str with Eclipse now.
    Of any element he wants.

  • @masterrhyno
    @masterrhyno 3 месяца назад +1

    If they just added an Augment slot beside the exilus slot i wouldnt care about these mandatory augments

  • @dayle1341
    @dayle1341 2 месяца назад +1

    Why couldn't it be the same numbers etc but if you cast in light you get the buff for that amount of light when cast and same for darkness, would have been better in my opinion

    • @angelhunter1901
      @angelhunter1901 2 месяца назад

      imo it didn't need to be changed at all, just needed the switch to a toggle

  • @ShibiPlaysVtube
    @ShibiPlaysVtube Месяц назад

    They could has change her critic to every gun since your not stuck on secondary weapon anymore.

  • @sanh3864
    @sanh3864 3 месяца назад +2

    Did DE fired the Mirage's original designer ?😮

  • @cursedomen46
    @cursedomen46 3 месяца назад +3

    Can i just say mirage legerdmain can trigger melee influence. Do with this info what you will.

  • @user-gp1xh7vj8z
    @user-gp1xh7vj8z 3 месяца назад

    Protea has this type of aura slot goo

  • @Venus_Raven
    @Venus_Raven 3 месяца назад

    As a returning player after 2 years id love to get this guy but id probably have to play catch up for a month or longer just to go get his parts ughhhhhhhhhhh

  • @brainslayergaming3753
    @brainslayergaming3753 2 месяца назад +1

    Could you do a build for the fulmin prime. Seen you don't have one. If you do apologizes. Send the link

    • @noahedenborg4221
      @noahedenborg4221 2 месяца назад +1

      when he streams go there and type !fulmin

    • @brainslayergaming3753
      @brainslayergaming3753 2 месяца назад

      thank you will do @@noahedenborg4221

    • @KIEFINATOR420
      @KIEFINATOR420 2 месяца назад

      ​@@brainslayergaming3753he doesn't need to be online you can go to his offline chat and check if he has a fulmin build

  • @levifoote7786
    @levifoote7786 3 месяца назад +5

    Dang mirage was already like not good though lol

    • @thenightingale7405
      @thenightingale7405 3 месяца назад +1

      That's the hilarious part. They are putting so much effort into nerfing MIrage between the patch last week and the next DLC and she is mid tier at best. Next they'll be spending multiple patches nerfing Nyx.

    • @doughnutt4978
      @doughnutt4978 3 месяца назад +2

      What crack are you smoking? She has 2 steel path nukes that don’t use eclipse.

    • @jagmbaksvshsh
      @jagmbaksvshsh 3 месяца назад

      GUYS DE REVERTED THE MIRAGE CHANGES ONLY HELMINTH GETS NERFED ! ❤

  • @James-9999
    @James-9999 2 месяца назад +2

    Having a whole Tennocon based around kahl just to have him be a useless, forgotten and not fun is so sad.

  • @loganbenedict9044
    @loganbenedict9044 3 месяца назад +1

    And i just built her prime too.....

  • @telechiandrei3124
    @telechiandrei3124 2 месяца назад

    Arcane Grace finally has a meaning

  • @usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052
    @usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052 3 месяца назад +2

    as a yareli main, the new augment does indeed make me cream my jorts, but fucking hell why do i need to use an augment to have any reason to use one of my abilities

    • @thenightingale7405
      @thenightingale7405 3 месяца назад

      I toggle it off when I need to move large distances, but Merulina is fantastic for survivability.

  • @jaycarl1477
    @jaycarl1477 3 месяца назад

    I uses one and on steel path. It's better than his third.

  • @Extrey
    @Extrey 3 месяца назад

    i don't understand will kullervo get a good mod or not? looks good, but i dont know is it worth it

    • @VideoKingist
      @VideoKingist 3 месяца назад

      Kullervo is perfectly fine with the mods he currently has anyways

  • @kamoia
    @kamoia 3 месяца назад

    love me some cresskendo and duplicathi

  • @laharlkent
    @laharlkent 2 месяца назад +1

    So is this another unit that can't have a skill helminthed to him since he would lose more than half his power?

    • @4ncientGu150
      @4ncientGu150 2 месяца назад +1

      Guess so

    • @bobbobbington4426
      @bobbobbington4426 2 месяца назад +7

      Good because a frame should be an entire kit fuck helminth

    • @funnystranger3380
      @funnystranger3380 2 месяца назад

      Did thus update happen already

    • @laharlkent
      @laharlkent 2 месяца назад

      @@funnystranger3380Not that I know but they did say it drops this month

    • @funnystranger3380
      @funnystranger3380 2 месяца назад

      @@laharlkent ok thanks on a trip can't play just wanted to know when I get back

  • @paradym777
    @paradym777 3 месяца назад

    Can we nerf enemy effective hp scaling so I don't have to spend 3 business days melting a single mob without eclipse

  • @Ncktoriouz
    @Ncktoriouz 3 месяца назад +1

    I think they have lied about, that Eclipse is not working in the new tileset.. I think its just too powerful to let it work there :')

    • @ruinardark6363
      @ruinardark6363 3 месяца назад +1

      In the previous devstream they showed how it wasn't working well💀

  • @allenbassemier3722
    @allenbassemier3722 3 месяца назад

    The religious faith of harrow and the physical build of Atlas, noice

  • @Mechanaut
    @Mechanaut 3 месяца назад

    i dont see disrupt aura (or how it named) at necramech demolist. so, mby, we can gloom him

    • @Mechanaut
      @Mechanaut 3 месяца назад +1

      F for eclipse

    • @stephenschneekloth1535
      @stephenschneekloth1535 3 месяца назад

      He was moving so slow I don't think that will be necessary, Voidrigs are just tanky as fuck.

  • @chilX3467
    @chilX3467 3 месяца назад +2

    Really happy Loki got looked at, his 3 and his passive is still pretty bad though. If they made it so that you no longer need a target to cast teleport, it would be a pretty good fast travel ability. Also there’s no reason to switch places with an enemy, all it does is relocate the enemy while putting you in a potentially dangerous position. Please DE, add a useful effect when switch teleporting an enemy.

    • @ValanxWF
      @ValanxWF 3 месяца назад

      Augment.

    • @chilX3467
      @chilX3467 3 месяца назад

      @@ValanxWF Rolling guard.

    • @zachcate7102
      @zachcate7102 3 месяца назад

      10 seconds of invulnerability that you can refresh indefinitely isn’t a good ability?

    • @ValanxWF
      @ValanxWF 3 месяца назад

      Augment is arguably better than RG.@@chilX3467

    • @chilX3467
      @chilX3467 3 месяца назад

      @@zachcate7102 Just use revenant, if you need 10 seconds of invincibility on a stealth frame that can disarm enemies, that’s a skill issue

  • @nickfox233
    @nickfox233 3 месяца назад +1

    rip eclipse F in da chat homie

  • @mariano8992
    @mariano8992 3 месяца назад

    When will we see these updates in game?

    • @slingodeluxe
      @slingodeluxe 3 месяца назад +1

      I think with the Dante update in march

    • @mariano8992
      @mariano8992 3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks dude preciate it

  • @post6597
    @post6597 3 месяца назад +2

    So inaros is good now? I really cant tell i haven't played the game in 3 years

  • @Zacubiz
    @Zacubiz 3 месяца назад

    What they need to do is buff EB base status chance “im a excal main”

  • @abdelghanyibrahimhindawy4484
    @abdelghanyibrahimhindawy4484 3 месяца назад +3

    It's sad to realise that Mirage is going to be just another forgotten frame next to chroma. Idk , but i can see that this nerf is gonna hit Mirage herself harder than just any other "Eclipse" loadouts or play styles , she is going to be totally wasted and forgotten just like what happened to chroma. Another dead WF

    • @noahedenborg4221
      @noahedenborg4221 3 месяца назад +1

      but she wont be the most forgotten
      caliban

    • @thatonepenguinperson618
      @thatonepenguinperson618 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@noahedenborg4221who

    • @MasterAarott
      @MasterAarott 3 месяца назад

      Mirage'll be better off than Chroma. She still has a multiplicative method to increase her damage via clones, and she still has great nuking abilities, at high level with prism and at low levels with EL. Meanwhile, what else could Chroma do besides poop out damage? Crappy breath, overpriced turret of do nothing and a double jump.

    • @jagmbaksvshsh
      @jagmbaksvshsh 3 месяца назад

      GUYS DE REVERTED THE MIRAGE CHANGES ONLY HELMINTH GETS NERFED ! ❤

    • @thatonepenguinperson618
      @thatonepenguinperson618 3 месяца назад

      @@jagmbaksvshsh is that what they said? I thought they said they'd bring it in line with Rhino's Roar... And I interpreted that as overall. There's no way they're going to keep the 150-200% end multiplier damage buff now that it's actually free. I would prepare to set the numbers jump down to at least 50-100%, which is still very good, just not as good (which is fine honestly).

  • @SABRE_Reaper
    @SABRE_Reaper 3 месяца назад

    Let’s goooo a frame Witt my nammeeee that’s minty as fook

  • @yorick27
    @yorick27 3 месяца назад +2

    The yareli buff and eclipse nerf both remove all the uniqueness from their respective warframe. They couldve just fixed helminth ability casting on Merulina/some other Merulina issues instead of just removing her entire core concept with a mod that buffs her.

    • @thatonepenguinperson618
      @thatonepenguinperson618 3 месяца назад

      Yareli's "buff" is an optional Augment though which kind of goes in like with the nezha augment that removes his slide boost and the zephyr augment that normalizes her gravity. I'm confused about why this is a problem now when this has been their solution to 2 previous Warframes.

    • @yorick27
      @yorick27 3 месяца назад

      @@thatonepenguinperson618 It just shows that they have no idea how to actually make yareli good/more fun without turning her "just another default warframe". This buff is also very obviously made to drive sales on Yareli prime which is likely the next prime release. (They still haven't adressed issues like helminth ability casting on Merulina.)

    • @thatonepenguinperson618
      @thatonepenguinperson618 3 месяца назад

      @@yorick27 the next prime is Protea, Rebecca leaked it on stream. And I would agree with you if the Augment wasn't optional. The problem with Yareli was always the bugs that occur while riding Merulina. A playstyle such as hers would only be refined IF they remake every level in the game to accommodate indoor kdrive riding which... Is a lot of work for 1 Warframe, so I can understand why they took the easier route given how low Yareli's usage rate is compared to other frames

    • @yorick27
      @yorick27 3 месяца назад

      @@thatonepenguinperson618 yareli is after protea probs autumn ´24

    • @jagmbaksvshsh
      @jagmbaksvshsh 3 месяца назад

      GUYS DE REVERTED THE MIRAGE CHANGES ONLY HELMINTH GETS NERFED ! ❤

  • @deckerdc3422
    @deckerdc3422 2 месяца назад +2

    Wtf , thats kill all tha point of yareli wtf ??????

  • @lag00n54
    @lag00n54 3 месяца назад

    eh Nekros Despoil isn't mandatory now
    with the Equilibrium changes

    • @DarkaiXeno
      @DarkaiXeno 3 месяца назад

      You’re forgetting the fact the augment turns nekros despoil from a carpel tunnel inducing spam ability to a chill passive one that u can set and forget. So yes, still mandatory

    • @lag00n54
      @lag00n54 3 месяца назад

      @@DarkaiXeno ? all it does is uses your health instead of energy
      with the recent equilibrium changes you still get energy anyway if u have full health
      so I can just turn that on and leave it be and still have no problem with energy wdym?

    • @lag00n54
      @lag00n54 3 месяца назад

      @@DarkaiXeno and i looked at patches which was like 2016? and Desecrate is a toggle ability eitherway even without it so?

  • @alesztra937
    @alesztra937 3 месяца назад +2

    He gave away my secret plat farm 😠

  • @sunrugon5369
    @sunrugon5369 3 месяца назад +3

    F for Eclipse