TOP 5 WORST WARFRAMES

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  • @KnightmareFrame
    @KnightmareFrame  Год назад +103

    Who is the worst WF in your eyes and why?
    Useless Warframe Passives: ruclips.net/video/HviFlkp8v3o/видео.html
    CALIBAN The Forgotten Warframe: ruclips.net/video/MjDqKuQMfLA/видео.html

    • @MaxMustermann-kz8zv
      @MaxMustermann-kz8zv Год назад +20

      As you said inaros is by far the worst 😂 only reason to use him is to get those keys of baro when you talk to him with inaros prime and then switch back to something usable:D

    • @danielemarchetti9544
      @danielemarchetti9544 Год назад +23

      Inaros at least have health, useful in normal chart.
      *where is caliban on this list*

    • @fatpigeon2908
      @fatpigeon2908 Год назад +7

      Caliban and Inaros by far

    • @kiro3779
      @kiro3779 Год назад +9

      I was thinking I would see Oberon on the list over Valkyr, but guess we could put him as an honerable mention 6th. Yes, Inaros is #1 doodoo water.

    • @devinbahm
      @devinbahm Год назад +4

      Yo I'm so sorry to do this but valkitty is so overpowered in steelpath circuit!!! But yes warcray needs to be able to refresh at will.

  • @NahIdontthinksoatall
    @NahIdontthinksoatall Год назад +67

    Oberon: ass is grass
    Gara: ass is glass
    Wisp: massive ass
    Chroma: passive's ass

    • @thatguyintherain3168
      @thatguyintherain3168 Год назад +6

      You have such a way with words

    • @heavenly2k
      @heavenly2k 11 месяцев назад +2

      You're an artist

    • @NahIdontthinksoatall
      @NahIdontthinksoatall 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@heavenly2k i take my crass very seriassly

    • @FocusedReaction
      @FocusedReaction 3 месяца назад

      @@NahIdontthinksoatall Loki’s passive…

    • @NahIdontthinksoatall
      @NahIdontthinksoatall 3 месяца назад

      @FocusedReaction loki has a fire passive, on the jackel boss fight tiu can hang on the ceiling while your wait for the lasers

  • @jeansantana1339
    @jeansantana1339 Год назад +459

    There's so much they can do with an Inaros rework. He can be a consumer or spell caster. He can get his passive to be as good as Nidus' passive since they're technically supposed to be the same.

    • @tomzdeluxe
      @tomzdeluxe Год назад +24

      They are no where near the same. Nidus gains stacks from his 1st ability. After so many stacks, he then gets a revival mechanic. Inaros has a last stand mechanic, which can then revive himsef.

    • @TheRagnus
      @TheRagnus Год назад +37

      ​@@tomzdeluxe... And is a worse version of Sevagoth's last stand passive given it has 0 scaling

    • @jr9529
      @jr9529 Год назад +10

      And y'know what? They don't really have to do that much. Just have his abilities actually scale with something like power strength or enemy level or a bit of both. That'd make him so much better alone.

    • @OliveOil01
      @OliveOil01 Год назад +10

      Never let bro cook again your wasting my oil bro

    • @jr9529
      @jr9529 Год назад +4

      @@hellkaiser1366 so like a health hildryn. Interesting

  • @oysteivi
    @oysteivi Год назад +24

    The one nice thing about Inaros is that the Zariman mode that disables your skills isn't a debuff.

  • @PrabhDhillon-x2g
    @PrabhDhillon-x2g 10 месяцев назад +42

    Crazy that Loki used to be the most op warframe on every list when I used to watch like 7 years ago

    • @ironmooss1946
      @ironmooss1946 10 месяцев назад +8

      Just started playing again a few weeks ago after a roughly 7 years hiatus, booted up my MR15 account to my loki prime and then did some googling on what’s good now and shed a tear when I realized my boy was shit 😂

    • @0Rosanna
      @0Rosanna 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@ironmooss1946 pain

  • @crispycream7159
    @crispycream7159 7 месяцев назад +34

    As a new warframe player thank you fat Kanye west for the advice

    • @Percdragoon
      @Percdragoon 7 месяцев назад +1

      Kanye south

    • @Needs_Tzel
      @Needs_Tzel 5 месяцев назад

      Please don’t listen to him. These frames are actually insanely strong if played correctly. Even Banshee is good if played into her niche. Yes some need a good understanding of warframe but the risk is worth the reward. Chroma for instance is the best if not one of the best DPS tanks in the whole game and has been for years. He just needs a tad bit of setup and he’s completely immune to ALL damage. Loki is the ONLY frame that can abuse AI pathing in a way that COMPLETELY TURNS THEM OFF. Single handedly the BEST defense frame because decoy has higher agro than defense objectives. With safeguard switch augment his decoy is immune to ALL damage for up to 12 seconds which is INSANE. No setup needed just pop decoy then pop s3 and boom invincible decoy that turn AI off with good placement.

    • @ryangerfen7489
      @ryangerfen7489 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Needs_Tzel "don't listen to him" but came here to listen to him. Right.....

  • @noodlenoms1569
    @noodlenoms1569 5 месяцев назад +11

    As a yareli main I have a few things to point out:
    1. sea snares and riptide are more than "decent" sea snares gives a ton of damage vulnerability to enemies caught in them and riptide is great at grouping enemies.
    2. merulina takes 90% of damage for Yareli and can have its health refilled if using the "merulina guardian" augment which in my experience makes you practically immortal.
    3. merulina is actually pretty fast and most of what you talked about it being slow or clunky is just a matter of you not driving it right.
    4. auqablades has no reason to need to scale with range, considering that Yareli is mostly based on movement you will be constantly be running into enemies.
    5. the real bread and butter of yarelli in my opinion is her passive of +200% crit chance to secondaries while moving, my secondaries to consistantly orange or red crit while having insane fire rate from merulina guardian
    6. I will admit K-drives are a bit...𝒲𝒶𝒸𝓀𝓎 it can also be used in your favor to invalidate certain things like defixio debuffs in abyssal zone or netracell keyglyph debuffs.
    TLDR: Yareli Is a great frame that can DOMINATE with a good crit secondary weapon while providing decent crowd control. merulina can be a bit glitchy at times but otherwise gives great survivability and utility

  • @Ray-ko1po
    @Ray-ko1po 11 месяцев назад +19

    To be fair Loki is just a relic of the past that did a lot of thing that warframe could not do back in the old days. They have the league of legends syndrome where they need to stop realizing new champions and update the old ones

  • @TheRagnus
    @TheRagnus Год назад +21

    Inaros has:
    1) Worse radial blind that requires line of sight as well as the enemy facing you at the time of casting, and for some reason has lifesteal on it despite having zero damage scaling whatsoever.
    2) Single target lifesteal that locks you in an animation unable to do anything. This one actually does have scaling, it's just so low that it's barely worth mentioning.
    3) Crowd control that throws enemies around making it harder for allies to shoot them, locks you in an animation unable to do anything, reduces your visibility, slows you down, does no meaningful damage, and is capped at 50% dr for no reason. Somehow they took Assimilate from Nyx and made it worse.
    4) An armor buff that's capped at only ~200 extra armor. It also can be thrown out to heal you and nearby allies overtime, but does hardly any damage (a recurring theme in his kit), has very bad base spread range, and a very low heal over time if you don't hit a lot of enemies.

    • @darkz1456
      @darkz1456 Год назад +1

      gotta feel sad for the inaros defenders

    • @pixledriven
      @pixledriven Год назад +2

      and no shield gate

    • @michalduchac4506
      @michalduchac4506 Год назад +1

      Put HP mods to inaros to make 9k HP then give him arcane grace and arcane guardian.... Then go to SP survival... Let him stand 20 minutes in same locacion... Then came back ... Whatt you will see? Live inaros with full HP

    • @pixledriven
      @pixledriven Год назад +2

      @@michalduchac4506 I don't believe the point here is whether Inaros' gimick works or not, but that there's many frames that can carry a gun and not die. Inaros is supposed to be a casting frame, but there's no reason to ever use his abilities.

    • @DientjeLaloan
      @DientjeLaloan Год назад +1

      ​@@michalduchac4506arcane grace and energize is very expensive, i can use revenant without rank 5 arcanes and still not be able to die in 5 hour survivals

  • @Alexander_Kaa
    @Alexander_Kaa 11 месяцев назад +13

    I still want Hydroids Puddle ability back. Latch it to his second ability. You tap 2 it's a wave, you hold 2 it's a puddle. Rework it somehow ofcourse.
    The ability to dissolve into puddle of water and drag your enemies into the deep, to drown them is awesome and terrifying as a concept. The implementation was shite.
    So gimme back my puddle but make it work!

  • @ImDaRealBoi
    @ImDaRealBoi Год назад +32

    To be fair to inaros, they got his concept down perfectly.
    He's an ancient ass relic and should be buried

  • @devonleonard6926
    @devonleonard6926 5 месяцев назад +15

    Valkyr's ripline was a godsend in the early days, back when bullet jump was one of Excalibur's abilities and cost 75 energy

  • @deicide7216
    @deicide7216 Год назад +14

    I just think that people aren't building Yareli properly. I literally do not die in Steel Path with her while red crit'ing with kitguns.
    One solution for her is just like Titania gets smaller in her pixie form, also reduce Yareli's size while on the k-drive so she doesn't get stuck on everything and would help her manoeuvre on certain tiles. Also let her use abilities and primary while on the k-drive.

    • @KnightmareFrame
      @KnightmareFrame  Год назад +6

      2:40

    • @jasonrouse8215
      @jasonrouse8215 Год назад

      It's not that she isn't built right, her kit just kind of sucks... it fits thematically, but that's about it, it's not cohesive. If merulina had, let's say, better movement and granted a buff ( resist knockdown + increases skill range), that might have made a difference, but I agree with what KnightmareFrame said, she has knockbacks and a close ranged aoe skill with mediocre damage. She needs a lot of TLC to be good, though she's still better off than Loki or Inaros, as it's just "some" of her kit, and not the whole thing that sucks.
      She's like a discount Gyre/ Zephyr hybrid with a mental disability. I don't like the frame visually (too many frills 'n shit), but her kit is sorely lacking, which is my main reason for disliking her.
      To all Yareli lovers, you're entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong. :P
      Jk. You love what you love, aint no one gonna tell you how to enjoy YOUR time playing a game.

    • @hothstorm
      @hothstorm Год назад +1

      ​@@KnightmareFramehe did say "do not die" rather than just "do" but mostly valid point.

    • @Saffimaru
      @Saffimaru Год назад +1

      Yup, everyone else is the problem, it couldn’t possibly be that the frame sucks

    • @faithfulfollower980
      @faithfulfollower980 Год назад

      @@Saffimaru nah, the quest behind her just sucks, so no one even has her to begin with

  • @jaeinoushryuk2743
    @jaeinoushryuk2743 Год назад +7

    How to fix Inaros:
    First ability: Increase AoE and make it decrease enemy's armor and apply corrosive status
    Second ability: Select an enemy and gain ability strength, armor, and extra health based on enemy level
    Third Ability: Make him invulnerable, scale with how many corrosive effects are within enemies trapped in it and heal based on damage dealt
    Fourth Ability: Gain damage reduction (not armor, limit 95%) and store 50% of damage received (scaling with ability strength) and be able to recast and deal AoE damage to enemies around you
    Passive: When dying, enter a frenzy state (with scaling duration) in which you'll only be able to use your Melee, but every hit applies viral on enemies. When killing an enemy with both viral and corrosive status effects, revive with half your health
    I like using Inaros, but I have to admit his abilities (except for his 4th which still isn't that good) are useless. He's just a tanky weapon stand that doesn't really have any synergy not even within his own kit. Yeah, his abilities are all based on sand, Caliban's abilities are all based on sentients, that doesn't make them synergize.

  • @NunDragonfly
    @NunDragonfly Год назад +14

    Alternative title: top 5 most outdated warframes

  • @IshimuraaYT
    @IshimuraaYT 5 месяцев назад +14

    What’s even worse about valkyr’s passive making landing soft…if you just tap the slide button before you land you will have no land animation 🤣

  • @viktorstabface2074
    @viktorstabface2074 10 месяцев назад +721

    The warframe can't instantly delete all of the enemies in a 10 mile radius after I press a single button, it's so bad guys.

    • @surtrgow-8260
      @surtrgow-8260 10 месяцев назад +96

      Inaros main right?

    • @tennoo160
      @tennoo160 10 месяцев назад +52

      Inaroa main spotted

    • @treyedwards2914
      @treyedwards2914 10 месяцев назад +86

      I mean…..when the rest can do that, yeah it is probably bad 😂

    • @awesome7732
      @awesome7732 10 месяцев назад +25

      In a horde shooter that kind of matters lol. Your sole objective is to kill as many enemies as possible as quickly as possible. If you can't do that, then what are you contributing to the team/mission? Healing someone? If you killed all the enemies with one button then no one will take damage in the first place so healing isn't worth the damage sacrifice. Blasting sand at people? Why do that when you can kill them? Do you see the problem now?

    • @theurbanreanimator7244
      @theurbanreanimator7244 8 месяцев назад +48

      ​@@awesome7732this is such a bad mind set and would kill the game if DE actually used it

  • @DBD120
    @DBD120 Год назад +12

    Loki main since 2013 still waiting for them to give him much needed love.

  • @caticusgaming9691
    @caticusgaming9691 10 месяцев назад +16

    I used to like Inaros.... then I tried Zephyr and Wukong and now wonder, why did I like Inaros again?

  • @PatrackaAff
    @PatrackaAff 11 месяцев назад +8

    Iranos is really a big life stone, that's all. Everything Valkyr does, other Frames do better. I've always dreamed of a rework in Valvyr, but it seems to be a frame that is invisible to DE's eyes. Loki was useful in the game's past, but as the operator gained new uses, Loki became obsolete. Loki is still useful for running drone escorts on the Plains of Eidolon. It's also worth remembering that after the eximus rework, a lot of things in Warframe are no longer useful. I'm surprised you didn't include Banshee on this list, after the nerfs she serves practically nothing in the game

  • @heavenly2k
    @heavenly2k 11 месяцев назад +5

    6:45 being able to bullet jump twice in a row is awesome tbh.

    • @notbread299
      @notbread299 10 месяцев назад

      With infested mobility it is quite useful

  • @NTrophy-
    @NTrophy- Год назад +12

    For anyone still coping, grendel has more ehp than inaros and has a shield gate. Inaros is not even a good health tank

    • @0Rosanna
      @0Rosanna Год назад +1

      In the old days he used to be

    • @DientjeLaloan
      @DientjeLaloan Год назад +2

      ​@@0Rosannayeah before steel path when everything was so easy u could take squishy frames and also not die

  • @GameAssassinReviews
    @GameAssassinReviews 5 месяцев назад +8

    Valkyr being the first on the list breaks my heart. As a Valkyr main I have invested a lot of forma into her, to make her a tank without needing to use her 4. I even have a second Valkyr prime that I have made to just use her 4, ironically enough using your build to have basically infinite hysteria, the reason I don't really like those types of builds is because they aren't flexible, you have to use her 4 and nothing else.
    I do agree she needs a big rework to make her good, because I remember loving playing with her when i got her in the past. when I was first starting out and still rather new to the game I remember seeing a vid on Valkyr and at that time I had her in my foundry and after I claimed it everything after that became a blur. Like I don't remember anything after and I just remember that I was getting more and more powerful faster.
    Now I don't know if it was just me loving playing her, but it just kills me that she is basically not useful anymore. I mean DE even nerfed her 3rd that I used to use with her augment to pull enemies in close, but now because her 3rd has impact damage when you cast it a second time with the augment the enemies just go flying and that's why I had to use ensnare that I got from khora via helminth.
    I really hope that DE reworks her soon and that Pablo manages a miracle with her rework because I now don't trust anyone but him to be able to help my main become great again.

    • @aikidodude05
      @aikidodude05 4 месяца назад +1

      honestly he is being little unfair to Valkyr she is not super amazing but her tool kit has a purpose and can be useful. like ripcord is fantastic for exactly what he dismissed it for getting you into position and since you can use while in zerking instead of dive rolling I will use 1 to more accurately move around and faster than I can with with the slide leap.

    • @ryangerfen7489
      @ryangerfen7489 4 месяца назад

      I haven't played her in years, because she just can't keep up with other frames. But somehow prime and original are both still in my top 10 most used frames. So I'm right there with you.

    • @aikidodude05
      @aikidodude05 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ryangerfen7489 I mean just off the bat seriously nyx is not on the list yea its a obvious pick but dude its nyx she everything she can do can be done by others but better same with Caliban completely well known to just be a bad frame the concept of what its trying to do is just bad and pretty much all his kit is done better by other frames.

    • @chaoshonako9780
      @chaoshonako9780 4 месяца назад +2

      As a player since 2014 with 3000 hours, (70.2% of those hours been played as Valkyr); whatever she lacks, I make up for in skill, or compensate with weapons, equipment, focus schools etc.
      I’ve seen so many changes to her and I honestly wish she would get a rework. She’s the only warframe that hasn’t been **fully** reworked; they just constantly make small tweaks to her 4 and other abilities, but overall they have remained the same since her release.
      Given how ridiculous the powers some of these newer frames have, I believe it’s fair to make her current augments as part of her default abilities. (endless warcry, hysterical assault, paralysis, rip line augment.)
      The only augment that shouldn’t be default is her enraged hysteria.
      After making these augments apart of her default set-up, change the augments into something else useful.

  • @NathanTruby
    @NathanTruby Год назад +9

    I really do hope Valkyr gets a great rework. As it stands, she has 2 useless abilities, 1 good one and an Exalted weapon that needs an update.
    Maybe they could integrate the Tennokai system into something thats unique for her since her Prime form is supposed to be a controlled rage (similar to modern-day Kratos), but we'll have to wait and see what dark magic Pablo works on her.
    I just want my old main to be good...

    • @michalduchac4506
      @michalduchac4506 Год назад +1

      Valkyr is probably best melee frame ... Just your modding is bad ..

    • @NathanTruby
      @NathanTruby Год назад

      @michalduchac4506 no, that would probably go to Gauss or Kullervo. She's not even the best Exalted frame since Baruuk nullifies her existence via Serene Storm and its augment. I love her just as much as you seem to, but she's not the best at anything right now.

    • @xenogengas9693
      @xenogengas9693 9 месяцев назад

      Idk, getting her talons to red crit is already possible, she may not need a rework, just needs the right build.

    • @NathanTruby
      @NathanTruby 9 месяцев назад

      @xenogengas9693 red crits aren't everything. You need a good base kit to go with it, and as it stands, Valkyr only has 2 abilities that you'd want to use regularly.

    • @xenogengas9693
      @xenogengas9693 9 месяцев назад

      @@NathanTruby Lvl cap isnt everything either. But all i hear is people trying to brag about it. Besides valk is not a bad frame, she has a solid base. Tho i will say a rework would be nice, shes one of the last frames id ask for a rework for.

  • @gogetsomevitamind
    @gogetsomevitamind Год назад +9

    Inaros mains: Inaros is so tanky, and can life steal to stay alive
    Revenant: Tanky, can life steal and take shields, can make a puppet army in one button press. Inaros, but way better

    • @patricklukcy13
      @patricklukcy13 11 месяцев назад +1

      I don't disagree and am an inaros main. My next two favorite frames are Ivara and revenant.
      Inaros just has a different vibe to him. He's more hectic and on the move. More offensive in his play. You have to be with him else he flunders hard.
      With revenant he plays can slower and does more control than tanking. Both are fun, but both also have their place.

  • @santohalim1355
    @santohalim1355 6 месяцев назад +11

    I wanna object Yareli, cause of 200% crit chance passive, 90% dmg reduction while on merulina. 200% reload & fire rate augment. and more than 200% dmg vulnerability.(how can yareli be worst????) I manage to build the secondary Gatling that can do million dmg each bullet(I know y know which weapon), while surviving easily(not moving much, except violence). using merulina is indeed need player skill(which can handled with some training). for other I totally agree

    • @Nephale
      @Nephale 6 месяцев назад +1

      This video is 7 months old. Loyal merulina turns her into better nezha. She is fine now. Only her 3rd skill is useless outside of low level missions. With some strength she spreads 300%+ dmg vuln everywhere while also having strong cc. Definitely not trash anymore.

    • @noodlenoms1569
      @noodlenoms1569 5 месяцев назад

      Fellow yareli enjoyer
      😎

  • @epic_afk9333
    @epic_afk9333 Год назад +9

    Loki is indeed good at a few things: mining, fishing, hunting and being lazy

    • @bitlessmind
      @bitlessmind Год назад +2

      No. That's Ivaras playground. You want(ed) to use Loki if you need(ed) invisibility in fast paced missions with energy drain (capture, spy, rescue) or if you want(ed) to fast farm for relics in Hepit or Ukko.

  • @garrymurphy7181
    @garrymurphy7181 Год назад +4

    as a chroma main with 52% usage on chroma prime out of the thousands of hours I put into the game I had hoped his previous rework would do more with the element part of his theme like double the effects status can afflict like how hydroid can now full armor strip with just corrosive, honestly at this point even a faster hit rate on his 1 would be a godsend cause 1 status proc per second is so damn terrible if i could replace 2 abilities it would take 0 thought into which ones it will be

  • @nicholasleroy5453
    @nicholasleroy5453 11 месяцев назад +9

    I mean aside from yareli, who isn't excluded from this conclusion, they were all warframes from the earliest warframe years when they were getting their feet wet, form over function, themes first balance later. Also I'm a yareli coper, don't listen to me.

    • @BoneheadPlays
      @BoneheadPlays 11 месяцев назад +1

      That’s true but that makes the neglect of these frames even worse as they have had sufficient time to rework them

    • @xenogengas9693
      @xenogengas9693 9 месяцев назад

      I will continue to play yareli, as i have since she released. With almost 1500 hours since i started in 2015, shes about to be my most played frame. Overtaking all of my previous mains.

  • @Fixti0n
    @Fixti0n Год назад +7

    Loki is a sad story, he went from the Undisputed top S tier frame, but slowly over time he has gone from S to A, then A to B, B to C and now he is all the way down here at the bottom.

    • @ryangerfen7489
      @ryangerfen7489 4 месяца назад

      @Fixti0n he's still s tier from a fashion frame perspective. Atleast, in my eyes he is.

    • @Fixti0n
      @Fixti0n 4 месяца назад

      @@ryangerfen7489 Loki is S tier in my hearth.

  • @yungamare4750
    @yungamare4750 Год назад +5

    Merulina isn’t slow. It just clips on objects. In raw speed you can dust almost anything that isn’t titania

  • @surriad1140
    @surriad1140 5 месяцев назад +3

    6:51 chroma has that passive because DE wanted him to feel like a flying dragon. Personally would have given him something more flight based as an ability. And made vex armor weaker, but the passive

  • @MEYH3M
    @MEYH3M Год назад +9

    for god sake no more yareli reworks! she received multiple reworks between 2021 and 2022. let's move on and show some love to other frames like Oberon or Caliban.

    • @mrwatermelontheexotic3448
      @mrwatermelontheexotic3448 Год назад

      Oberon
      Poor man has been shafted by power creep and its awful
      If anything caliban needs an actual 1,but he's a great at everything else,the shield buffs gave him justice

  • @excal_umba2164
    @excal_umba2164 9 месяцев назад +5

    Some people want a cheeseburger at 3am. Some people wanna use valkyr as scorpion

  • @franceschik1
    @franceschik1 Год назад +5

    Valkyre is good in the SP circuit as the decrees roll get bias for melee. She's invulnerable and her 1st can grab enemies throwing them off the isle, and at the same time you can use it to not fall down if you miscalculate a bullet jump.

  • @kittenkid2711
    @kittenkid2711 6 месяцев назад +7

    Just have fun use your fav and if people got a problem with it they can join a different squad.

  • @a.t.7764
    @a.t.7764 Год назад +5

    Maybe they can give Inaros some form of health gating as a new passive. Every 25% of his HP, he gains immunity for a few seconds, kind of like conculysts. That works well with his ability to keep healing himself and other arcanes that can heal. They can maybe make the health gating time scale with how much health he has up to a capped amount of time so you get rewarded for building high amounts of health. His 1 can maybe stay the same. But his 2 should be changed to something completely new. Maybe he makes a wave of sand that comes back to him pulling enemies into melee range. His 3 could be this finisher ability that works with his 1 and 4. His 1 and 4 could leave a mark on targets that allows him to summon sand clones with his 3 that do finishers for him on marked enemies based on his equipped melee. This ability can cost a flat amount of health per target that is reduced by ability efficiency. His 4 can stay the same but maybe give damage vulnerability to enemies affected by it. It also shouldn't have to be channeled and should cost energy, not health. I feel like this would make Inaros a good health tank that prefers to use melee but also has the option to play and heal/tank from range.

    • @RhomasTotevenaar
      @RhomasTotevenaar Год назад

      One of the better ways to balance him, what do you call it. Healthgating???

  • @surriad1140
    @surriad1140 5 месяцев назад +3

    9:07 I love the idea of spectral scream. I wish DE would up its numbers though. If it was a channel that had the range and damage of other abilities similar to it, it’d be great.
    Personally I’d switch Effigy and Scream, let effigy be the weaker skill, and scream a poweful channel like Wisp.
    Effigy could be better if it did more. Like this is the warframe equivalent of summoning a dragon. Maybe a Boost to numbers and an AoE Elemental ward for allies and damage for enemies could make it a great tool. Like Citrines Big rock does more elemental than both of these abilities. Kind of embarrassing for my baby boy.

  • @vel5724
    @vel5724 11 месяцев назад +7

    How has Limbo not been on this since the eximus rework. Eximus, boss, accolytes, or nullifiers = whole kit useless

    • @noahedenborg4221
      @noahedenborg4221 11 месяцев назад +2

      well for 1 nullys only really stop his 4
      2 eximus abiltiys can be taken care fo by silence or u know actually moving
      3 acolytes fucks most builds sometimes but only if u can react in time

  • @VexTrooper
    @VexTrooper Год назад +4

    I honestly so suprised that Caliban wasn't on here. Caliban is that warframe that most people probably forgot, even though he was added in with the quest that was in the works for years, the New War. Caliban doesn't seem to focus on special role either. He doesn't CC, he doesn't do high enough damage to be a DPS, he can't be a tank, and he sucks at support. He just exists...hell, Yareli is more useful then him

    • @loafofbread9400
      @loafofbread9400 Год назад

      Combat dis +nourish makes caliban pretty nuts, full shield armour strip his not bad at all

    • @DientjeLaloan
      @DientjeLaloan Год назад +1

      Watch his new video on him, caliban can be a nice shield tank ig, with other cool abilities

    • @beeleuazevedo8142
      @beeleuazevedo8142 Год назад

      He’s pretty decent now

  • @BeeBeeBeeLol
    @BeeBeeBeeLol Год назад +3

    I say it all the time. Allow Merulina to be toggleable. You gain 60% of the damage reduction benefits if you choose to not ride it and simply have it float around you the way Nova's Null stars do. SIMPLE and it works. So you give people who don't want to subsume abilities some basic functionality and utility. This not only allows you to retain some of damage reduction if you choose not to use it but ALSO allows you to use melees and your primary freely.
    I'm a yareli enjoyer. I have 5 tau shards on her and lots of forma and am eagerly waiting for her prime fashion and tennogen potential. She deserves more love than the little love they show k-drives, which they decided to make in the first place.

  • @Lumpz4k
    @Lumpz4k Год назад +5

    Nyx woulda made the list for me. She isn't remotely bad. Her kit just feels a lil dated and unfitting. Like her namesake is a ancient greek goddess of darkness who births some of the most terrifying beings and and the best thing she can do is armor strip and turtle? I understand the frames ten years old so i wont talk too much about her looking like a female excalibur but its also an issue lmao.

    • @J.MT71
      @J.MT71 Год назад

      Nyx hasn’t been useful since running LOR but we traded that game mode for pyrol farming instead 🤷🏻

  • @cryptisi5363
    @cryptisi5363 4 месяца назад +22

    If Yareli has a million fans, i am one of them. If Yareli has a hundred fans, i am one of them. If Yareli has five fans, i am one of them. If Yareli has one fan, its me and if she has none then i have surely perished

    • @CidDip
      @CidDip 4 месяца назад +2

      Ok

    • @chaoshonako9780
      @chaoshonako9780 4 месяца назад +2

      Add me on warframe, I would love to play with a Yareli main

    • @chaoshonako9780
      @chaoshonako9780 3 месяца назад

      @@cryptisi5363 add? 🥲

  • @Ms.Mayhem99
    @Ms.Mayhem99 11 месяцев назад +5

    Anyone else here after the devstream? Dude your streak continues!!

  • @FortressWolf97
    @FortressWolf97 Год назад +4

    I feel like Valkyr has started to grow on me for 3 reasons. 1) Warcry doesn’t just boost attack speed, but also movement speed and armor rating, plus it’s not an aura ability, meaning if you just pop it once near teammates, they will get the boost even if they move out of range. 2) Paralysis allows for free finishers, plus it acts as a good stun in disruption missions. 3) Her ult makes her invisible until you select the ability again, which will only deduct the percentage of damage indicated by the icon. This is useful to readjust yourself as you heal, as well as useful for hacking or reviving teammates while under attack.
    In essence, her abilities have far more utility than the descriptions lead on to be.

    • @FortressWolf97
      @FortressWolf97 Год назад

      On a side note, I’ve tested her out in Archon hunts and she’s pretty solid. It’s a bit of a reckless play style where you can put yourself in harms way in order to assist your teammates in any position. Think of her less like tiger and more like a honey badger.

    • @aldovk6681
      @aldovk6681 Год назад

      I agree

    • @FortressWolf97
      @FortressWolf97 Год назад

      @@aldovk6681 not to mention her augment mods do a lot for her. Hysterical Assault turns her into a tanky Voruna.

    • @Mr_Skeleton666
      @Mr_Skeleton666 Год назад

      Fr, I don't know what this dude is talking about. I've played Valkyr before, and I feel she is a great frame. Yeah, her ripline ability is weird, but nothing beats going into open world mission and casting it as you look down on the enemy while aim gliding.

    • @FortressWolf97
      @FortressWolf97 Год назад

      @@Mr_Skeleton666 just wish the bonus damage lasted a little longer. Kinda have to hit something while you’re flying by at crazy speeds.

  • @Alukard661
    @Alukard661 Год назад +5

    Loki main here.
    I have almost 7k hours in Warframe, and 44% of that time is on Loki.
    At one point i became so desperate to make him better i subsumed Thermal Sunder, and slapped an augment on it.... on top of building it for 240% strenght.
    New Archon Shards provided enough damage bonuses to return to more classic builds through range and efficiency, but damn....
    ....Please, DE, do something about it. Loki desperately need a rework.

    • @camm9b095
      @camm9b095 Год назад

      give Fire Blast a go with him
      75% strip at base strength. you only need to build the other 3 and not lower strength.

  • @caghynicolas14
    @caghynicolas14 5 месяцев назад +15

    I just hate the shit they did to wukong. Bro why my clone using my ammo

    • @theplaguedoctor794
      @theplaguedoctor794 5 месяцев назад

      THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

    • @zombine555
      @zombine555 4 месяца назад

      Because a boom gun like Bramma being both buffed AND having infinite ammo in the hands of the clone is alil too much. Blame afk farmers.

    • @caghynicolas14
      @caghynicolas14 4 месяца назад

      @@zombine555 on top of that the clone will just stand there half of the time meanwhile the greeneer gunner just shower you with bullets.

    • @caghynicolas14
      @caghynicolas14 4 месяца назад

      @@zombine555 P.S: they could've make it in a way that the clone has to pick up ammo by himself at least.

  • @SenseofNoneYT
    @SenseofNoneYT Год назад +2

    If they do rework these frames, I hope they use these existing abilities as basis for better abilities rather than completely eliminate their identity. Like, Inaros' theme is sand, mummies, and whatnot. I think the concepts for these frames should take priority over simply giving them some vanilla abilities that make them strong.

  • @LoneMaestro-
    @LoneMaestro- 11 месяцев назад +3

    Loki used to be Master Race remember those days. I do, but no one ever says that anymore because he isn't he is forgotten in time

  • @Wooskii1
    @Wooskii1 Год назад +3

    I still remember when I got to Fortuna and I had some challenge "Kill X enemies while on a K-drive", so I proceeded to run down Corpus and slowly stomp them to death by jumping up and down on them😂
    I had no clue you could use a secondary weapon, all I knew was that I couldn't shoot anyone when I got on and I had never seen anyone use a K-drive for anything besides movement or doing tricks to level.

  • @drguthrie7621
    @drguthrie7621 Год назад +4

    It is honestly shocking to me at this point that Inaros hasn't been reworked

  • @galetine5253
    @galetine5253 8 месяцев назад +3

    The start of this video made me sad because they nerfed the shit out of my favorite archwing stuff back in the day.
    They took Itzal’s blink away and gave a shittier version to every archwing, and they nerfed the infinite range and punch through of the fluctus. No more killing enemies across the map through every wall on the map, and no more blink spam.

  • @cloudwhitehart
    @cloudwhitehart 9 месяцев назад +7

    I have been playing the game a week. I brought Yareli as my first warframe after the mag lady. I dont care if shes bad~ I love being a creepy jellfish cthulu princess. She has brought me pure joy.

  • @ErrorhIL
    @ErrorhIL Год назад +3

    as a VALKYR player (34% in profile stat over 3k h) i'll say something before even starting watching it, THANK YOU finally someone recognises something I've been talking for years but always hear "she has her 4 she's fine" I'm so tired of that she has clear issues if I can press her 4 and forget about every over ability or just subsume gloom and forget about everyother ability, her oly usefull ability to me is her 1 something with wich a lot of people will disagree but it is the only thing that keeps me to her, in a world where you cant switch to your operator over when there is nothing under you and it will count as your warframe falling into the void her 1 is the only usefull mobility ability to me and her only ability I use in her kit at this point and it's just sad to me, I love her too much and it's the time for her to get some love

    • @FuiHakamura
      @FuiHakamura Год назад

      I agree with everything you say I used Valkyr for a lot of time and a QoL for her 4 is required (When swapping to the melee if you swapped off it should instantly apply the invulnerability rather having to go through the ready animation) but her kit needs adjusting her 1 is just well needs gone. I often forget what her 3 does and just swap it for silence.

    • @FuiHakamura
      @FuiHakamura Год назад

      Her 2 and 4 is great but it doesn’t fix her kit as a whole

  • @carbonmosa8641
    @carbonmosa8641 7 месяцев назад +8

    After loyal merulina came out saying yareli is one of the worst frames is just wrong. Merulina gives her great survivability while also giving her solid cc, aqua blades is very nice passive damage to just have going as ultimately Yareli is a gun focused frame, having good cc and survivability while giving amazing pistol buffs. You arent playing her for her ability damage lol.

    • @carbonmosa8641
      @carbonmosa8641 6 месяцев назад

      @GloriaMisztal just with the current meta there are so many solid side arm options that yareli severely buffs. And yeah cold damage used to suck, but now it's amazing for cc. Her armor bubbles make her hit so hard. I have a fairly okay build on her and I pretty regularly crit for 1.5 mill. On top of her great survivability.

    • @mia5847-j9i
      @mia5847-j9i 5 месяцев назад

      i agree, i use dual toxocysts incarnon and shreds lvl 300 sp missions easily while almost invicible by loyal merulina

    • @noodlenoms1569
      @noodlenoms1569 5 месяцев назад

      @@carbonmosa8641 1.5mil....teach me your ways😮

  • @The_Knight01
    @The_Knight01 7 месяцев назад +5

    I honestly didn’t have an issue with Inaros, It was actually pretty helpful in a few defense missions I did with some buddies cause we were being swarmed my enemies. So being able to become a sandstorm and gather all of the enemies and move them to a singular area where I can smite them all with one swipe of my sword came in handy. Definitely saved time and helped get through the mission faster.
    Loki also just seems more like a Stealth-Frame than a Warframe than anything. But useful nonetheless.

    • @entrope3670
      @entrope3670 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yo bro, just about the inaros KMFR was judging pre-rework, so now hes in a much better position than he was for the last years since release

  • @heyitsaces5969
    @heyitsaces5969 Год назад +3

    Yareli doesn't let you use primary on K-Drive cause it seems her kit is more focused towards using your secondary. Whoever designed her was smokin some high quality seaweed

  • @TimidNomad
    @TimidNomad Год назад +2

    Loki should be able to cast a bunch of illusions, make enemies fight each other, and shape shift into other frames depending on whose on your team and use its abilities as well. Fits better considering Loki is the trickster god

  • @nDVSTRY
    @nDVSTRY 4 месяца назад +6

    Since i came back to the game, i dont think I've ever seen an Inaros in a mission. Even with the rework in effect

    • @chaoshonako9780
      @chaoshonako9780 4 месяца назад

      Cause his powers are just…. Eh… even with the helminth incarnation the rest of his abilities just don’t do anything worth while.
      I haven’t checked his augments in a while, but as far as I remember, his rework makes it so he can heal allies, but it’s still not fluid enough to heal off the bat.
      With that being said, I would love to play with a Inaros fanatic that has mastered him and all of his flaws. Bonus points if you can write a detailed essay of all of his uses.

  • @wade1095
    @wade1095 11 месяцев назад +11

    Yareli with adaptation and rapid resilience is immortal on merulina

    • @beardedzeus1337
      @beardedzeus1337 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@Spinetap so immortal in literally 99.9% of content. Lol

    • @vibez2806
      @vibez2806 10 месяцев назад

      @@beardedzeus1337 you can use the same logic on most warframes...if you gotta waste extra mod slots then it will be less

    • @WhatWillYouFind
      @WhatWillYouFind 8 месяцев назад

      @@vibez2806 Except Yareli can just press a button for on command rolling guard and theres already 9999 videos up of her in Cascades. Yareli is uniquely good in ways that the meta will never reinforce. Yareli K-Drive with 2ndary incarnons is low key busted with 200/200/200 in basically free status with guardian augment. Loyal allows full loadout with 2 second damage augment in your general vicinity? Yareli is low key great now that people have so many options to build with or around her unique kit.

    • @vibez2806
      @vibez2806 8 месяцев назад

      @WhatWillYouFind so like I said a wasted mod slot.

  • @101inter-dimensional10
    @101inter-dimensional10 6 месяцев назад +9

    Ahhh, how good it is that Inaros was reworked, now he is an OP immortal vacuum cleaner.

  • @Orion-d7o
    @Orion-d7o 8 месяцев назад +18

    I still play Valkyr so I don’t give a sh*t

    • @ryangerfen7489
      @ryangerfen7489 4 месяца назад

      @user-ix9pf2sy4v that's the spirit! I still break her our for old times sake myself. We know she isn't that great anymore, but atleast we aren't defending defending our sexy emo girl frame like those innaros and loki mains.

  • @thatnobody915
    @thatnobody915 Год назад +2

    Valkyr rework idea
    Rip Line: must target a single enemy, however it'll chain nearby enemies to it and drag them in front of Valkyr. Enemy chain count is affected by strength and leaves enemies in a finisherable state.
    Warcry: slow is now an active field not affected by Ability Range. Melee kills grant shields while Hysteria kills grant double the amount of shields.
    Paralysis: no longer drains energy, instead draining shields only. Replaced knockback/ragdoll effect with armor stripping based on percentage of shield remaining. 100% shields strip 50% armor at base, and having 100% overshields strips 75% armor. Armor strip is affected by Ability Strength.
    Hysteria: No longer invincible, instead granting armor based on kills that will drain over time slowly. Grants 50% damage reduction.
    This makes Valkyr lean even more into melee centric gameplay while allowing her to have more modern means of survivability. I like the idea of having a Gloom-like ability on her because I recently played with a Garuda build centered on Gloom and it felt REALLY nice. Now this obviously doesn't have the health regen of Gloom but offers a shield regen instead. The Rip Line change came from Khora, but making it more consistent as it doesn't depend on the original target being alive. Paralysis came about because melee builds live or die by armor stripping. Sure you could just subsume Terrify then Rip Line them all but this incentives you keeping all of Valkyr's kit. I toyed around with the idea of having the shields on melee kill part of her passive but that would make Gloom even more OP on her, and it makes more Warframes wanting her subsume. Hysteria has the same philosophy as both the Nezha and Wukong change; trading brain-dead invincibility for a more modern survivability ability. You're already gonna get tons of shields and shield gating, there's no reason to keep the invincibility on top of that.

  • @lichtpopsicle772
    @lichtpopsicle772 Год назад +2

    I had a brilliant idea for a chroma rework:
    His 1 damage increase + ability to mod it/ innate faction damage. Unsure if augment change but literally anything would be better
    His 2 combine the effects of elemental ward and vex armor, vex armor buffs are regardless of the element and the ward buffs stay based on element which you now change with elemental ward. Augment gets changed to add +35% damage taken to health is converted to energy.
    His 3 dragons horde, the effigy flys off briefly collecting all elemental status in range, when it returns, after like a quarter second or maybe half, you get a bit of energy for every status and bonus energy for each unique, power afflicted status.
    His 4 honestly effigy just needs its jank removed, energy lowered and damage increased. If Agatha can have invincibility while casting a 4 that deals 15,000 viral and has the potential to ignore armor then chrima’s dragon should be able to out damage a horse. However I know de and the community really aren’t fond of turrets, so instead he should be a reverse Titania and grow in size (necramech) and gain modded spectral scream as an archgun.
    His passive, a weaker version of quick thinking.
    This guy is meant to fight DRAGONS let him be a strong and hard to kill frame.

  • @sirshay6156
    @sirshay6156 5 месяцев назад +5

    Damn i was thinking why is chroma here he's good lately.... Then i saw that this was posted 8 months ago

  • @seanmsw5977
    @seanmsw5977 Год назад +6

    TBF Ripcalw pretty useful for yanking in that last 4head teammate who refuses to get in extraction.

    • @gregorybower2759
      @gregorybower2759 Год назад

      Or just wait 60 seconds?

    • @seanmsw5977
      @seanmsw5977 Год назад +1

      @@gregorybower2759 or just respect other people's time?

    • @gregorybower2759
      @gregorybower2759 Год назад

      @seanmsw5977 could thing could be said vice versa, what if they're working on a nightshade l night wave, or trying to get that last bit of exp for to max it out to m9vr onto the next thing. Being rushy is arguably identical to slow poking around for one reason or another.

  • @konoko1002k
    @konoko1002k 7 месяцев назад +5

    As someone who is stuck with starter Loki, until my 2nd Warframe is build.... I kinda expected him to be on the list, but I didn't expect him to get demolished this bad.

    • @xdan-
      @xdan- 7 месяцев назад

      If you don't like Loki you can farm any boss to get a warframe. Even if you're completely new you must have access to a boss or two. And I think there's also Duviri now.

    • @konoko1002k
      @konoko1002k 7 месяцев назад

      @@xdan-
      Thank you. Yes, I am completely new, but Rihno and Mag are already being build right now.

    • @deathfromthedepths
      @deathfromthedepths 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@konoko1002kDon't sweat it too much playa. Take it as slow as you want

    • @isaacsmith5678
      @isaacsmith5678 5 месяцев назад

      Nah he just doesn't use him right Loki can stay permanent invisible if you get the right mods and can disarm enemies in an instant. This youtuber is a veteran of the game so I'll say this as one do not take our advice at all unless we are talking from a prespective of we have your mr and state he has a lot of stuff from Plat alone so yeah he's not the best advice for free to play look up Loki builds for this year and were to find the stuff and take your time cause that is what the games about time and fun he just probably able to access everything since he has a lot of money trust me money changes your view on warframe.

  • @ambi_ow
    @ambi_ow Год назад +6

    PLEASE I NEED TO SEE YOU RANT ABOUT LOKI AND FROST PASSIVES 😭😭

  • @austinquick6285
    @austinquick6285 10 месяцев назад +4

    If only they had never nerfed chroma being able to sling contagion twice per flight.. the good ole days.

  • @Smoovkillalot
    @Smoovkillalot 11 месяцев назад +8

    As someone who remembers when all these Warframes came out a lot of these used to be some of my favorite frames. It’s sad that they’re fodder now

  • @EdensDawn01
    @EdensDawn01 Год назад +5

    As a yareli Main, i am no longer in denial that she kinda sucks. A lot. But it is fun wiping out tons of enemies using aqua blades on the k drive and that’s literally the only abilites I use

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse Год назад +1

      Honestly she's pretty decent, I don't think she's bottom 5. Her 1 is a huge damage amplifier and her passive is really strong. Her 4 is good crowd control tool with decent damage. The only "bad" part about Yareli is K-Drive controls suck ass. Unfortunately Zephyr basically has all of the elements of her kit but better.

    • @EdensDawn01
      @EdensDawn01 Год назад

      @@hallyuniverse yea

  • @ShadowRacho
    @ShadowRacho Год назад +5

    Surprised to not see Oberon on this list. Truely think he’s worse then valk at the very least because at least she has her fourth. Oberon is actually terrible.
    His passive is cool. His first literally does nothing except for a very few niche uses as a helminth with the augment but not on Oberon. His seconds only advantage is the status cleansing but there are so many ways to do that. His third is healing. Again so many ways to do that. The armour buff from it is also trash compared to other armour buffs and it’s also just armour which its self is pretty bad. Even the health gate augment is bad worse then pretty much ever other health gate in the game. And the only thing his fourth does is armour strip but only if they are on his second making it inconsistent and again there are soooo many better armour strips.
    Only thing he’s got going for himself is cc from radiation but also nyx, a companion with manifold bond and rad or just an aoe primer modded for radiation. To add insult to injury now we are getting a new radiation frame with the next update making Oberon even worse.

    • @gangsta_pigeon8023
      @gangsta_pigeon8023 Год назад

      i get so bored playing oberon

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Год назад

      Valkyr in my eyes is placeholder for all older frames that dont need complete reworks but just buffs and polishing of their kit
      that includes Oberon, Limbo, Trinity, Vauban, Frost, and maybe 3-4 other frames that I cant remember now
      Frames that arent bad, just need way more to do less than average newer frame, and frames that have atleast 1-2 useless abilites or non existent passives

    • @noahedenborg4221
      @noahedenborg4221 Год назад

      And sometimes his 4 doesn't strip even tho enemy is on grass

    • @MrSpoonwarrior
      @MrSpoonwarrior Год назад

      His 1 can speed clear just fine 😁.

  • @AnonymoZero
    @AnonymoZero Год назад +4

    For years I mained Inaros cause of his tankiness, and yet when steal path came out and the sudden change to arcane grace which wont help with his health, he was indeed in need of a massive rework, but I remember that when Nezha got reworked for his upcoming prime version, he was useful, but as DE announced Inaros Prime, Inaros mains were finally hoping for a rework like nezha, but.... they decided to release him the same way, WITH NO TWEAKS OR REWORKS WHATSOEVER!
    That's why I had to switch to other frames that were more useful, it's been years since he didn't get a proper fix, I want to see them get the Hydroid Rework treatment, if DE can get off their ass and do it, which we know they won't.

    • @lagerfeuerstories4585
      @lagerfeuerstories4585 Год назад +2

      i dont know what your build is but my 10,9k hp inaros with grace can facetank 20 lvl 190 corrupted gunners without getting down to 8k hp, and thats just me basically standing there doing nothing

    • @michalduchac4506
      @michalduchac4506 Год назад

      @@lagerfeuerstories4585 exaczly arcane grace + guardian and negation swarm .... Ppl are just dump... And dont using brain... Just bad moding from bad yt videos inaros is perfect tank same as valkyr is immortal beast with bilions of dmg...

    • @DientjeLaloan
      @DientjeLaloan Год назад

      ​@@michalduchac4506try without arcanes lol, i can use octavia/revenant without arcanes and never die lol

  • @spaz_taz4910
    @spaz_taz4910 Год назад +2

    As a Valk main i really hope she sees a full rework some day like her 1 is almost tottal garbage if not for being a movment option (not a great one but its something), her 2 is okay but is kinda made irrelivant by an attack speed mod and any other frame can take her 2 and use it with a better kit, her 3 is a joke, and her 4 can do damage is you really like to slide attack. personally i want to see ripline reworked in someway as i do like the core idea but not implementation, maybe instead it pulls you to the enemy and gives a short buff like kullervo 1 does or something. her 2 just feels like it could be overhauled, its not bad exactly just not really amazing, her 3 needs replaced entirely, and her 4 could be fine with some different combos and some kind of unique mechanic to give range like other exalted waves or just iron staff having a long reach or make her hysterical assault augment a base thing like many augments should be (especially old ones)
    just prayin to lord pablo for a rework.

  • @aice336
    @aice336 6 месяцев назад +13

    finally my valkyr made it on a tier list !!

    • @crispyzuko3427
      @crispyzuko3427 6 месяцев назад +6

      Congratulations, so did my Loki. High five!

    • @ryangerfen7489
      @ryangerfen7489 4 месяца назад

      @aice336 as a valk main for my first 3 years of this game I literally laughed out loud and I rarely do that. Mostly I'll Crack a smirk and that's about it. This fucking sent me though

  • @darkknight-rf1br
    @darkknight-rf1br 3 месяца назад +8

    With the right build every Warframe is great. Except limbo when high level eximus comes your f*cked.

    • @mrbuIIets
      @mrbuIIets 3 месяца назад

      Playing with LImbo in normal starchart and so dominant... until an eximus or nullifier shows up. The nullifier straight bricks limbo, especially if you don't know excatly where he is.

    • @chrishatfield7421
      @chrishatfield7421 3 месяца назад

      Agree with dark

    • @AnymMusic
      @AnymMusic 3 месяца назад

      Quick Thinking, blast overguard away, you're controlling again. Anything else

    • @AnymMusic
      @AnymMusic 3 месяца назад

      ​@mrbuIIets given that banished enemies stay banished, nullies only fco cataclysm. You can banish with more than cataclysm

  • @darksteelmenace595
    @darksteelmenace595 5 месяцев назад +8

    Bruh valkyr is an immortal berserker who shreds even high level enemies like paper, what more do you want man?

    • @ryangerfen7489
      @ryangerfen7489 4 месяца назад

      As a previous valkyr main for literal years, I say this with all the respect in the world for her.
      I can do that with atleast 30 other frames and kill more people in the same amount of time than her and also not die. The game has outgrew her.

    • @darksteelmenace595
      @darksteelmenace595 4 месяца назад

      @@ryangerfen7489 maybe I'm bad at building warframes, but I don't have a single frame who can match both her damage output and her survivability at the same time with only their kit and no weapons

    • @ryangerfen7489
      @ryangerfen7489 4 месяца назад

      @darksteelmenace595 maybe not bad at modding. Many frames abilities just aren't as clear cut as they seem without really diving into them, and I have the advantage of having done that with just about every frame.
      Dante certainly fits the bills pretty easily.
      Revenant also if you mod for high enough strength. His leave can one shot literally any enemy in the game after you use his 1 on them.
      Vorunas 4 isn't given enough credit, even though building toward it isn't her best build.
      Those are just 3 off the top of my head that you don't need weapons for.

    • @darksteelmenace595
      @darksteelmenace595 4 месяца назад

      @@ryangerfen7489 Can't speak for Revenant, but Voruna and Dante definatly can't match Valkyrs damage, she goes through level 200+ enemies like butter, Dante needs to cast a lot to kill enemies at that point and Voruna does way less there.
      I also don't think they can match her survivability. Dantes overshield is great, but certain enemies can shred even through 40k-80k overshields while only few enemies can do sth about Valkyr at all

    • @ryangerfen7489
      @ryangerfen7489 4 месяца назад

      I don't intend for this to be mean, but I know some people will take it that way and hopefully you aren't one of them. If you're having trouble surviving or doing damage with Voruna or dante against level 200s it's a problem with your mod mod setup or a skill issue. I've taken them both way higher than that.

  • @thisguy3500
    @thisguy3500 Год назад +5

    Missing the real number one, Nyx. Her 4th ability has been bugged for years and no one talks about it because there's only 3 Nyx mains.

    • @MusicFreak0426
      @MusicFreak0426 Год назад +3

      How is it bugged? I played a lot of Nyx Prime and never had much issue, I mostly use her for easy peasy armor strip and some crowd control. Just cause I like her design 😅

    • @SenseofNoneYT
      @SenseofNoneYT Год назад +2

      Her 1 and 4 are situational and honestly questionable, but she's still more useful than any of these frames. She's viable even on level cap so she doesn't get the same talk. Literally solo-ed 80-90% of SP no sweat with Nyx (the rest was with Ivara). She could use a bit of rework but dude... Loki? Inaros? Valkyr? She's not "the real number one."

    • @thisguy3500
      @thisguy3500 Год назад

      @@SenseofNoneYTYou can subsume any of Nyx's abilities without missing out. Her kit is out of date and/or can be replicated better by other warframes. The only bad thing Loki deals with is a broken Decoy augment, otherwise he's still op. Inaros 2nd ability is garbage but he's suffering from success otherwise.

    • @thisguy3500
      @thisguy3500 Год назад

      @@MusicFreak0426Never noticed that her Absorb skill was nerfed or that it's been bugged for years now? Nyx still has the ability to self damage, did you know that at least? Anyway, she's supposed to be immune to status and damage while 'absorbing' but isn't completely--unlike other warframes with the same immunities. When subsuming status immunity abilities, they won't work along side her Absorb and this is intentional because it's supposed to provide status immunity already. As I said, it's bugged and I challenge you to discover the bug for yourself.

    • @Okina-Kev
      @Okina-Kev Год назад

      3 NYX mains🤣🤣🤣

  • @90rohancd13
    @90rohancd13 Год назад +2

    As a returning old timer from the days of Loki Master Race, that one hurt my nostalgia bone

  • @thawmmawia4663
    @thawmmawia4663 11 месяцев назад +4

    Bro looks so disappointed with chroma's triple jump 🤣

  • @WhatWillYouFind
    @WhatWillYouFind 8 месяцев назад +9

    Yareli was never a BAD warframe. Damage Amp on 1, ON COMMAND ROLLING GUARD on 2, SLASH AOE "scales and kills lvl 215 heavy easily with good str, and a grouping tool on her 4? Eat your own hat KF, the k-drive isnt a negative in the new tilesets. This was even before her rework and augments, all of which are both niche and useful.
    This is coming from someone who did the yareli quest on launch, got her, and immediately dumped her into helmith only to pick her up again years later due to picking her in duviri and loving it. Loyal and Guardian both have interesting builds and the LOYAL augment already has people who've hit 9999 without any problems. Theres a reason why I've never subscribed to you, bad takes waaaay to often.

  • @innerg_92
    @innerg_92 6 месяцев назад +3

    Inaros rework totally fixed him. way better frame now. the sandstorm tornado is OP with the right setup and I have it where I can permanently keep it up.

  • @darnellbrown6023
    @darnellbrown6023 6 месяцев назад +7

    Before she was nerf Valkyrie was the goat and it wasn’t close! Year 1 players know! 💪🏾😤

  • @nathonanderson
    @nathonanderson Год назад +2

    I got sad when valkyr was mentioned, but you’ve got a good point. I never use her one, her 3 is replaced, and only ever use the 2 to help allies with armor because her 4 keeps me up indefinitely. Not even mentioning her nearly useless passive that is ignored by her 4 or is useless if using primed sure footed. Still my main and can solo most content, but that really only uses her 4.

  • @zarko_mkd1780
    @zarko_mkd1780 Год назад +1

    Awesome explained to details what is wrong with the current frames that desperately need rework, thanks tenno i hope DE listened...
    Ahh i forgot to say that it would be very nice for Rhino's "Energy pool" to be increased without additive stuff like shards and mods, just his base please Pablo if possible some time in future!
    Thanks for the content KnightmareFrame.🤗

  • @kcboy219
    @kcboy219 Год назад +5

    Inaros getting shat on mid bullet-jump in the intro scene has me WEAK!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @bluewrldZ004
    @bluewrldZ004 3 месяца назад +7

    Every video he releases I question why people take what he says seriously, this dude never cooks lmfao

  • @archonnova20
    @archonnova20 Год назад +6

    Idk man Yareli shouldn't be on here, she has sooo many buffs for secondaries (200% crit chance, 200% Fire Rate, 200% Reload Speed) aswell as the strongest dmg vulnerability in the game with her 1. Also Cold Procs which have been buffed to also grant additional crit damage. She has grouping now finally with the second highest range right behind vauban. Give her a good toy to play with ... (incarnon dual toxocyst) just like you would do with Kullervo and you got yourself a rly good living nuke.
    Caliban should've been where Yareli is on this list, but hey I wouldn't blame you for forgetting him. Seems like DE forgott aswell that he exists.
    His passive is a worse Adaptation, His 1 is prob the worst ability in the game, his 2 lifts enemies so you cannot headshot them, his 3 doesn't scale and his 4 is a worse defense strip compared to something you could get from the helminth (tharros strike).

    • @breewoo145
      @breewoo145 Год назад

      Bad frame. Cope

    • @zaferoph
      @zaferoph Год назад

      Strongest damage vulnerability in the game doesn't help her when her main gimmick is completely useless and then also her third ability is also just bad. Caliban's passive is indeed worse than a mod but at least it does something compared to most of these passives (literally only Yareli has anything and even then it does not include 2 out of the 3 you listed) and if you want a more useless ability than Caliban's 1 try Loki's decoy, Valkyrs warcry or Yarelis aquablades (the only reason I use it is that her second is arguably even worse lmao). Remember what was said in the beginning? Just because you like a warframe doesn't mean they're good. Yareli is fun and has some potential but on her own half her kit is as useful as Loki's.
      Further, not only does Caliban's 2 not make headshots impossible (you just can't aim) but damage vulnerability in a radius generally beats a cone with 9m base range lol especially with sentient Wrath acting as a knock down too. Tharros strike isn't even that good generally anyway except for the fact that it heals you.

    • @archonnova20
      @archonnova20 Год назад

      @@zaferoph "You just can't aim" xD
      I mean true i cannot headshot someone through ones legs and ass to get a headshot. Would love if you can show me that technique.

    • @imajoker6859
      @imajoker6859 Год назад +3

      A fellow Yareli enjoyer these people in this comment section are delusional I swear they just hate the frame for what ever reason

    • @zaferoph
      @zaferoph Год назад

      @@archonnova20 lol

  • @RicardoAlmeidatm
    @RicardoAlmeidatm 11 месяцев назад +7

    Inaros is so cool. He's a robotic anubis that eats people. Why did he have to be so bad?

    • @joncedricbermudez3745
      @joncedricbermudez3745 11 месяцев назад +2

      because shield gating is op and he's the only character without shield

    • @donomiroftroy2043
      @donomiroftroy2043 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@joncedricbermudez3745 Theres two other shieldless frames

  • @mrkizu
    @mrkizu Год назад +12

    As a Yareli main, I know she may not be the best... but please don't change her 😭. I really enjoy her as is. For merulina I use it for tanking and not for speed... so cruising and shredding with secondaries is fun to me. I know no one will read this and my opinion doesn't matter 😅... but last time D.E. changed my favorite frame to "make them better", I never played that frame ever again lol

    • @shade_d_hades
      @shade_d_hades Год назад +4

      It’s ok, stranger, I too am a Yareli enjoyer. I understand

    • @mikoto.souh1872
      @mikoto.souh1872 Год назад

      ive been playing her lately and i like her but shes sooooo buggy her frames dont work half the time like u get on her board and she just like in a stuck animation but can still use abilitys only way to fix it is to get on n off her board tho i feel damage wise she really weak

    • @DientjeLaloan
      @DientjeLaloan Год назад

      What was ur favourite frame ?

    • @mikoto.souh1872
      @mikoto.souh1872 Год назад

      @@DientjeLaloan I main titania but I love ivara altho she's weak and I love wisp as well

    • @DientjeLaloan
      @DientjeLaloan Год назад

      @@mikoto.souh1872 I was asking the original commenter not you, also how is ivara weak ? Can't she nuke rooms with her augment, and is a really good camping frame ?

  • @neowolfgrimm4652
    @neowolfgrimm4652 11 месяцев назад +8

    I use Inaros so my dog can have over 10k health... Thats it.

  • @christopherjackson9741
    @christopherjackson9741 8 месяцев назад +4

    I do not think they're the worst, esp if the average clueless player can do level cap with them. What I'm gathering is this should've been titled "Top 5 Useless (or) Obsolete Warframes" as a warframes ability is supposed to be unique & if a weapon or arcane can do what the frame does, then in a way that frame is obsolete. Also to cope would mean that player has something available at the ready, there's a better option that person has.
    To me doodoo water means absolutely no way is it useful

  • @coleshovel8432
    @coleshovel8432 Год назад +4

    Disarm Loki used to be meta for LoR. The good old days. I think scarab armor should do slash instead of corrosive. Maybe if they made enemies effected by desiccation burst into sand blind nearby enemies. I don’t think there is a way to make devour good.

    • @2slowpoke929
      @2slowpoke929 Год назад +3

      I honestly don’t even get Loki’s bad rep either. His 4th and 2 are extremely good still unless you absolutely care about “le meta” strats. His 1 and 3 should honestly just merge like Vauban’s Bastille + Vortex and give him a completely new skill but Idt he’s nearly as “rework” needy as Inaros. Unless people want Radial Disarm and Nyx’s Chaos to just be another armor strip + viral + slash + nuke ability.

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Год назад

      @@2slowpoke929 He is so outdated its not even funny, I dont get why people get defensive of their favourite frames, I like Gauss and Volt which large amount of community consider near perfect in terms of abilites, and if they suggested a rework or wuality of life change beause the "are bad" Id be more than happy to accept it

    • @DientjeLaloan
      @DientjeLaloan Год назад +1

      ​@@nbassasin8092outdated how ? Hes like an og space ninja

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Год назад

      @@DientjeLaloan Video explains it pretty well, Wisp has first 3 of his abilities built in her 2 (i dont agree fully but I get the point, in a sense she really does), his 4 is cute, but is contradictory to his 2, because why disarm enemies if they cant see you in the first place, his 2 is his only really useful ability, his 1 is based on duration and has health, why not just make it a duraiton based ability
      and he just doesnt do anything or anything to be enough in any regard, he is only the invisibility guy and thats it, he really needs a heavy buff/rework/refreshment to his kit, hell if you are so bent on him staying the way he is, you can easily keep the abilities the same but give them some additional effects and quality of life changes so they dont suck as bad as they do now
      I didint think Loki being bad is a hot take, hes been bad for years now, Im suprised to see this many people not getting why he is bad, he only does 1 thing, which is a fine thing, but that is not a reason to say he doesnt need change, any frame that only does 1 thing needs to change

    • @DientjeLaloan
      @DientjeLaloan Год назад +1

      @@nbassasin8092 he is not that bad, he's like a budget revenant, people like to say revenant is a lot better because of his 3 and 1 but no one uses them anyways, they just mostly use his 2 just like how they did with loki, also I think if they rework him people will be mad, because then playing as a space ninja in spy missions can't be done anymore

  • @mrsnikeersneerph4nt0m13
    @mrsnikeersneerph4nt0m13 Год назад +2

    Chroma is my third most played warframe in the 2 thousand hours I've played this game and I never even realized he had a triple jump until this video lol

  • @Tripledashhh_
    @Tripledashhh_ 3 месяца назад +13

    After putting 1,113 hours 47 real life days. And taking a four year break and coming back now. I can say that there is no trash warframe. You just need to play them correctly at appropriate times. That’s including TEAM synergy. Remember warframe is a team game. You can do all that damage and shit but just end up looking like a try hard carry the whole time.

  • @kallsusae
    @kallsusae 11 месяцев назад +4

    Yareli requires a controller, like all l drives do.
    Which is silly. But it fixes all the movement issues.
    Also loki is legitimately un killable. Wot.
    Replace decoy or disarm with banshe's silence. Your welcome.
    Enjoy being able to solo steel path and level cap without an issue, indefinitely. As he has the best invisibility, and a huge damage boost.

    • @curts7801
      @curts7801 10 месяцев назад

      Loki sucks. I’m sorry.

    • @AnD1262
      @AnD1262 10 месяцев назад

      I disagree, i've spent 95% of my time with yareli on controller, had a way better time on mouse and kebord when I switched to PC. warframe is a lot of learning where you'll get stuck and avoiding getting stuck, yareli just gets stuck in different places

  • @myeyesarespiders
    @myeyesarespiders 11 месяцев назад +7

    I would love to see a Valkyr rework, love the idea of a melee focused lioness/cat themed frame but two of her four moves make no sense and could be replaced with something much more fitting

  • @Black_Screen_013
    @Black_Screen_013 11 месяцев назад +6

    I agree that chromas first ability isn’t that good but top 5 worst is crazy

    • @fes4861
      @fes4861 10 месяцев назад

      @Spinetapi predict it will come after inaros trust! He will be a real dragon one day..

  • @CajunJynx
    @CajunJynx 11 месяцев назад +2

    Intros was great when covert lethality killed everything in one shot. When they changed covert lethality, the frame became useless.
    -was an Inaros main back when that worked, haven’t played him since.

  • @boogieb5934
    @boogieb5934 Год назад +2

    I personally think DE just need to rework all OG frames to bring them up to the new bar. They worked once upon a time but the game has changed greatly since then