Meshuggah is for rhythm addicts. Not for just banging out to. You gotta first acknowledge what it is. It's meant to be confusing but simple enough to piss you off if you don't break it down.
I get what you're saying. But I don't think you have to understand it quite that much to enjoy it. You just gotta bang to the quarter notes and not get distracted by the snare. Meshuggah is groovy as hell, you just gotta find the pulse.
@@yoostburg I like what you said but usually the snare is the second most reliable part of Meshuggah (on the 2 and 4 or common backbeat), next to the hi-hat or crash, which is like you said on the 8ths or quarter notes.
@@Egoblivion I was over-simplifying for people who aren't used to complex drum patterns but you're right. But from my observation, it's when the kick/snare becomes syncopated that throws most people off. It's not "distracting" when it's simply falling on the backbeat.
First it sounds repetitive, then the more you listen you notice that there is nothing repetitive at all. But it takes a little time to get that. Another thing I like about meshuggah is that the guitar is so great. I listen to a lot of different music and Jazz among other things. Meshuggah is so much Jazz Fusion. Its complecated and it depands a lot of you.. very active listening to understand it. And last thing.. I put on Meahuggah.. in the car.. damn its difficult to drive slow.. when I train.. damn I lift so much heavier.. but also to relax.. sounds strange perhaps but when you sit down and really focusing.. it is really meditative
Same here. I listen to Meshuggah to lift weights and also for relaxation. You’re right, it can be very meditative, almost trance inducing. A friend of mine described their music as mesmerizing. I thought that was perfect. They can pump me up or chill me out depending on my mood…I even fall asleep listening to them on super low volume sometimes ;)
only a hardcore few are ready for Meshuggah (i certainly wasn't), but of serious musicianship, craftsmanship and jaw-dropping drops, these are the gods. the only way to embrace the cold machine is to let it conquer you piece by piece. it's well worth keeping dipping your toes in their waters.
Did you hear about the conspiracy theory that Tomas Haake is a machine sent back from the future to wipe out all humanity (especially John Connor), but got distracted by metal and instead became the best extreme metal drummer of our generation? I believe in it.
I completely understand you guys. It took me months to get into this band always going back listening to their albums because I found their super technical and complicated music still fascinating. Today Meshuggah is one of my top 5 favourite bands. Their live show is incredible and mesmerizing and I love how unique their sound is. Maybe check out their live performances. "Pravus" (live in Tokyo) is a good one and I am sure that will help you get into this band. You also gotta listen to "I" from Meshuggah! It is a 21 minute song of relentless heaviness/fastness and it is far from repetive! 😅
I saw Meshuggah open for SLAYER in 99, and I have been a big fan since. Seeing them live is a religious experience. Their new stuff is even better than the old stuff.
Meshuggah is definitely a rhythm focused band and it's perfectly normal for some people to not enjoy their music as much. BTW, Rob Scallon has an amazing cover of this song on his youtube channel. Played with a one-string shovel, and a clarinet for the guitar solo (naturally) And if Rob Scallon isn't somehow familiar to you, then you are in for a treat. Check out some live video, or an actual show if that's ever possible. The lighting guy is basically a rhythm master and follows the songs perfectly, and as usual the band plays as tight as an atomic clock.
Destroy Erase Improve, Chaosphere, Nothing, Catch 33, Obzen, Koloss, Violent Sleep of Reason.. some of the best metal albums ever. Not sure what the fuck you're talking about.
Meshuggah- New Millennium cyanide Christ is one of my favorite songs by them!! I listened to all their records earlier this year.. it's interesting... that's all I can say. I've been listening to them since 2010.. Edit: I like your Beelzebub band shirt.
future breed machine, so that you can listen to the very song that changed it all for so many bands. Meshuggah has probably inspired or influenced at least 60-70% of the bands you have reacted to
I was like you with Tool man, I couldn't find myself to like them for the longest time. Then I laid down in a quiet room, open minded and listened to their most popular bangers. I was hooked about 10 min in. Before I had this false notion that they were a "heavy" band so I kept looking for their heavy song and of course couldn't find it. This lead me to not really enjoy them for what they are. I wish you luck in opening your third eye!
One of the best feelings is bobbing your head to a Meshuggah polyrhythm and feeling the beat meet back up where you started. Try bobbing your head like the singer. One down and up movement for every two crashes. Also you can't see the drummer's feet, and it's hard to notice if no one tells you, but often times in their tracks, one strum of the rhythm guitar is one beat of the bass drum. In the video you're only seeing the 4/4 beat he's playing over some other ridiculous beat on the bass drums
Totally understand where you guys are coming from. I first heard meshuggah in 2008 when Obzen came out and liked a couple songs, but just couldn't get into it. And I really wanted to because they were so heavy and foreboding. I kept trying, still couldn't after a few years and their next album. Finally went back a couple years ago and tried a fresh listen, after listening to a lot of funk and jazz. Suddenly I totally understood and they clicked, now they are like my top 5 band for any genre. The key for me was realizing musically these guys are not death or thrash metal, if you listen with your metal ears on, you probably won't get it. You have to listen for groove and rhythm and it just blows your mind.
Meshuggah is one of my favorite bands ever, grooves out the ass, hope you guys check out the Demons Name is Surveillance at some point! I get from point a to point b 80% faster no matter what I'm doing listening to it!
Also, some of their songs have changeups every bar or every few bars to contrast with this song which stuck to a formula. Some of my other favorite songs by them are Break Those Bones Whose Sinew Gave It Motion, Rational Gaze, Swarm, Violent Sleep of Reason, Neurotica, Born in Dissonance, Clockworks, Stifled, Demiurge, Perpetual Black Second, Straws Pulled At Random, Into Decay, Obzen, Combustion!
Hey guys! Sorry to steal your line! The song that really got me into Meshuggah was "War." Meshuggah is not easy to get into because they don't conform to the normal rhythms/time signatures we're used. "War" is the song that bridges the gap between their unique sound and the more familiar sounds we're used to, i.e. blast beats, breakdowns, solos, etc. I'd love to see your reaction to it and see if it bridges the gap like it did for me. Cheers! 🤘
U see them live you will flip out. Check out Deimurge by meshuggah or the album Koloss by meshuggah. Im huge fan of the band but i can understand the opinion. Fyi...they rarely ever will play new milenium christ live.
I have always loved Meshuggah, every since I heard my first song by them, Future Breed Machine. It's nothing to do with the band, but you guys just do not get into the rhythmatic metal that they do. Repetitive is part of this style. I get lost in long stanzas of repetition. They were incredible live. Saw them twice many years ago.
their songs seems to be repetitive and go in circles is because the patterns are so long, by the time it comes back around, it's been a long pattern. they do a lot of 1 2 1 3 1 2 1 4 patterns. check the snare drum for this you will see what i mean.
@@APREACTS Perhaps its the EQ of the video render then. Never said you touched the song specifically. Just sounds less full in the react than the original song link. Was curious! Love the videos! Looking forward to more!
I get you Pedro, my husband loves Tool, I just can't get into them. Some of their early stuff was more enjoyable, but recent stuff doesn't do it for me.
It took me years to get into Meshuggah, never got it and I definitely didn't like this track. The vocals, the style, it just sounded like a repetitive mess. After going down the Gojira and Tool rabbit hole and having a bigger appreciation for rhythmical arrangements I finally started to understand the appeal of Meshuggah. Not only now are they my favorite band but can appreciate Chaosphere in all of its glory. The rhythms are so tight and syncopated but also have weird time signatures, accents, and mutes. Just when you think you caught it and went a couple chugs longer than you thought it was going to or it dropped out and restarted again quicker than you thought. There is no melody in Meshuggah songs all parts are rhythm including the vocals, that is why Jens is always typically in the same key much like Gojira does. It isn't a style for everyone but when you get it, there isn't another band on the planet that comes close to these guys IMO.
Their music video songs are their worst IMO, this one included. Their true art is in their "deep cuts" such as Closed Eye Visuals, Pineal Gland Optics, Marrow, Stifled, etc.
Same here w/ Meshuggah. Incredible band and masters of their craft, but I have to listen to them in small doses. Although, it's really cool to see the reactions from folks while on my drive to/from work when I'm playing Meshuggah at a healthy volume!!! Polyrhythms and alternate time signatures really frak with people! It's awesome!!
Finally someone I can agree with. I've tried to get into these guys so much but it's honestly boring as fuck to me. Hey bro if you want a cool band to listen to check out orbit culture....listen to the North Star of nija, flight of the fireflies or the shadowing first to see if you like them.
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One of the most neck breaking song ever to step on Earth. Massive!
Meshuggah is for rhythm addicts.
Not for just banging out to.
You gotta first acknowledge what it is. It's meant to be confusing but simple enough to piss you off if you don't break it down.
I get what you're saying. But I don't think you have to understand it quite that much to enjoy it. You just gotta bang to the quarter notes and not get distracted by the snare. Meshuggah is groovy as hell, you just gotta find the pulse.
@@yoostburg I like what you said but usually the snare is the second most reliable part of Meshuggah (on the 2 and 4 or common backbeat), next to the hi-hat or crash, which is like you said on the 8ths or quarter notes.
@@Egoblivion I was over-simplifying for people who aren't used to complex drum patterns but you're right. But from my observation, it's when the kick/snare becomes syncopated that throws most people off. It's not "distracting" when it's simply falling on the backbeat.
@@yoostburg True but I guess I just wanted to emphasize that most of the time it does fall on the back beat.
Imagine stopping at a light and looking over and seeing this
This song and video made me love them. Air guitaring and drumming a complex song while he sings into a Bic pen. They just had fun.
I thought it was a twizzler
First it sounds repetitive, then the more you listen you notice that there is nothing repetitive at all. But it takes a little time to get that. Another thing I like about meshuggah is that the guitar is so great. I listen to a lot of different music and Jazz among other things. Meshuggah is so much Jazz Fusion. Its complecated and it depands a lot of you.. very active listening to understand it. And last thing.. I put on Meahuggah.. in the car.. damn its difficult to drive slow.. when I train.. damn I lift so much heavier.. but also to relax.. sounds strange perhaps but when you sit down and really focusing.. it is really meditative
Same here. I listen to Meshuggah to lift weights and also for relaxation. You’re right, it can be very meditative, almost trance inducing. A friend of mine described their music as mesmerizing. I thought that was perfect. They can pump me up or chill me out depending on my mood…I even fall asleep listening to them on super low volume sometimes ;)
only a hardcore few are ready for Meshuggah (i certainly wasn't), but of serious musicianship, craftsmanship and jaw-dropping drops, these are the gods. the only way to embrace the cold machine is to let it conquer you piece by piece. it's well worth keeping dipping your toes in their waters.
Did you hear about the conspiracy theory that Tomas Haake is a machine sent back from the future to wipe out all humanity (especially John Connor), but got distracted by metal and instead became the best extreme metal drummer of our generation? I believe in it.
I can get behind that theory
I completely understand you guys. It took me months to get into this band always going back listening to their albums because I found their super technical and complicated music still fascinating. Today Meshuggah is one of my top 5 favourite bands. Their live show is incredible and mesmerizing and I love how unique their sound is. Maybe check out their live performances. "Pravus" (live in Tokyo) is a good one and I am sure that will help you get into this band. You also gotta listen to "I" from Meshuggah! It is a 21 minute song of relentless heaviness/fastness and it is far from repetive! 😅
For me the meshuggah-bug bit when I didn't listen in "small doses". It's the whole that made it.
one of the best songs they ever made.
I saw Meshuggah open for SLAYER in 99, and I have been a big fan since.
Seeing them live is a religious experience. Their new stuff is even better than the old stuff.
This track made me a Meshuggah fan.
All praise to the heavenly mighty Meshuggah 🔥🔥🔥🤘
Meshuggah is definitely a rhythm focused band and it's perfectly normal for some people to not enjoy their music as much.
BTW, Rob Scallon has an amazing cover of this song on his youtube channel. Played with a one-string shovel, and a clarinet for the guitar solo (naturally)
And if Rob Scallon isn't somehow familiar to you, then you are in for a treat.
Check out some live video, or an actual show if that's ever possible. The lighting guy is basically a rhythm master and follows the songs perfectly, and as usual the band plays as tight as an atomic clock.
Meshuggah is a absolute boss you can’t even come close
the best "no money" video ever
Meshuggah - Gods of Rapture
Meshuggah - Future Breed Machine
Meshuggah - Rational Gaze
Yes!!! spot on with those tracks
It’s this slow relentless build just getting heavier and heavier until that final simple ass breakdown. Song just absolutely peaks
Destroy Erase Improve, Chaosphere, Nothing, Catch 33, Obzen, Koloss, Violent Sleep of Reason.. some of the best metal albums ever. Not sure what the fuck you're talking about.
That makes 2 of us because I also don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.
Meshuggah- New Millennium cyanide Christ is one of my favorite songs by them!! I listened to all their records earlier this year.. it's interesting... that's all I can say. I've been listening to them since 2010..
Edit: I like your Beelzebub band shirt.
future breed machine, so that you can listen to the very song that changed it all for so many bands. Meshuggah has probably inspired or influenced at least 60-70% of the bands you have reacted to
I was like you with Tool man, I couldn't find myself to like them for the longest time. Then I laid down in a quiet room, open minded and listened to their most popular bangers. I was hooked about 10 min in. Before I had this false notion that they were a "heavy" band so I kept looking for their heavy song and of course couldn't find it. This lead me to not really enjoy them for what they are. I wish you luck in opening your third eye!
Holy shit I watched you guys like a year ago and now coming back and your son looks 10 years older lmao
One of the best feelings is bobbing your head to a Meshuggah polyrhythm and feeling the beat meet back up where you started.
Try bobbing your head like the singer. One down and up movement for every two crashes.
Also you can't see the drummer's feet, and it's hard to notice if no one tells you, but often times in their tracks, one strum of the rhythm guitar is one beat of the bass drum.
In the video you're only seeing the 4/4 beat he's playing over some other ridiculous beat on the bass drums
If this song doesn’t break your neck, I don’t know what would. Now to get them to play it live again. Need to convince Tomas
maybe rational gaze or stengah might give you an in for getting into the shuggah
Totally understand where you guys are coming from. I first heard meshuggah in 2008 when Obzen came out and liked a couple songs, but just couldn't get into it. And I really wanted to because they were so heavy and foreboding. I kept trying, still couldn't after a few years and their next album. Finally went back a couple years ago and tried a fresh listen, after listening to a lot of funk and jazz. Suddenly I totally understood and they clicked, now they are like my top 5 band for any genre. The key for me was realizing musically these guys are not death or thrash metal, if you listen with your metal ears on, you probably won't get it. You have to listen for groove and rhythm and it just blows your mind.
Demiurge is definitely the gateway song.
The whole song is a Try not to headbang challenge
Always gives me a chuckle that they did this video over multiple takes like a full budget vid.
If you guys haven't checked out Do Not Look Down by Meshuggah, that ones also a heavy headbanger for sure
Haven't heard that one yet.
@@APREACTS it's gooooood. Also, been crazy to watch the little guy grow up over the years lol
He has grown too much if you ask me
When you get your instruments stolen but you still have to make a video. And this is what you get, genius
More Meshuggah
I swear babe....It’s not you, it’s me!!! Lol
Belzebubs!!! Guys thank you! Mešuge!!!
You guys need another Meshuggah song to get a better vibe of them. They're fucking great. Try out the song Suffer In Truth or Future Breed Machine!
Future Breed Machine is a great choice.
Suffer in truth is a tough ass song
I love how RUclips translate the song name as "El Cristo del Cianuro del Nuevo Milenio" wtf RUclips i said no more Spanish trolling
It took me a long time to wrap my head around Meshuggah, but once I did it was off to the races.
Meshuggah is one of my favorite bands ever, grooves out the ass, hope you guys check out the Demons Name is Surveillance at some point! I get from point a to point b 80% faster no matter what I'm doing listening to it!
Also, some of their songs have changeups every bar or every few bars to contrast with this song which stuck to a formula. Some of my other favorite songs by them are Break Those Bones Whose Sinew Gave It Motion, Rational Gaze, Swarm, Violent Sleep of Reason, Neurotica, Born in Dissonance, Clockworks, Stifled, Demiurge, Perpetual Black Second, Straws Pulled At Random, Into Decay, Obzen, Combustion!
That bass tone!
Hey guys! Sorry to steal your line! The song that really got me into Meshuggah was "War." Meshuggah is not easy to get into because they don't conform to the normal rhythms/time signatures we're used. "War" is the song that bridges the gap between their unique sound and the more familiar sounds we're used to, i.e. blast beats, breakdowns, solos, etc.
I'd love to see your reaction to it and see if it bridges the gap like it did for me.
Cheers! 🤘
One of the best bands live....ever
U see them live you will flip out. Check out Deimurge by meshuggah or the album Koloss by meshuggah. Im huge fan of the band but i can understand the opinion. Fyi...they rarely ever will play new milenium christ live.
I have always loved Meshuggah, every since I heard my first song by them, Future Breed Machine. It's nothing to do with the band, but you guys just do not get into the rhythmatic metal that they do. Repetitive is part of this style. I get lost in long stanzas of repetition. They were incredible live. Saw them twice many years ago.
I’m with you, it’s hard for me to get into them too
their songs seems to be repetitive and go in circles is because the patterns are so long, by the time it comes back around, it's been a long pattern. they do a lot of 1 2 1 3 1 2 1 4 patterns. check the snare drum for this you will see what i mean.
The problem for me regarding this band are: 1. the static song, 2. Lack of melodies. But, they always have crazy complex rythm.
Too bad they don’t play this live anymore 😢
Best band on the planet. The best song for beginners when it comes to Meshuggah is Demiurge. Try that one:)
With you on this one - not my cup of tea / coffee / beer.
Edit: I like your Judas shirt.
I really want to get into Meshuggah but I just never been able to really dig it.
I dunno what happened, but boy did the balls get cut out of the song for the video. Sounds like the lows are just turned down
we didn't touch the audio of the song.
@@APREACTS Perhaps its the EQ of the video render then. Never said you touched the song specifically. Just sounds less full in the react than the original song link. Was curious! Love the videos! Looking forward to more!
react to the new zenith passage!
I get you Pedro, my husband loves Tool, I just can't get into them. Some of their early stuff was more enjoyable, but recent stuff doesn't do it for me.
Embrace the GROOVE dudes! Tool - The Pot ;)
It took me years to get into Meshuggah, never got it and I definitely didn't like this track. The vocals, the style, it just sounded like a repetitive mess. After going down the Gojira and Tool rabbit hole and having a bigger appreciation for rhythmical arrangements I finally started to understand the appeal of Meshuggah.
Not only now are they my favorite band but can appreciate Chaosphere in all of its glory.
The rhythms are so tight and syncopated but also have weird time signatures, accents, and mutes. Just when you think you caught it and went a couple chugs longer than you thought it was going to or it dropped out and restarted again quicker than you thought.
There is no melody in Meshuggah songs all parts are rhythm including the vocals, that is why Jens is always typically in the same key much like Gojira does.
It isn't a style for everyone but when you get it, there isn't another band on the planet that comes close to these guys IMO.
Their music video songs are their worst IMO, this one included. Their true art is in their "deep cuts" such as Closed Eye Visuals, Pineal Gland Optics, Marrow, Stifled, etc.
Same here w/ Meshuggah. Incredible band and masters of their craft, but I have to listen to them in small doses. Although, it's really cool to see the reactions from folks while on my drive to/from work when I'm playing Meshuggah at a healthy volume!!! Polyrhythms and alternate time signatures really frak with people! It's awesome!!
At least we are not alone in our Meshuggah struggles
You're not alone ! Tool and Meshuggah are not in my wheel house either but appreciate the talent
I feel the same. I like them in small doses. While I recognize the talent,for me they are hard listen. Herd for me to make it through a whole album.
They are just dull and boring. The only thing that makes them stand out is their weird tempo and Im not saying that is a good thing.
Finally someone I can agree with. I've tried to get into these guys so much but it's honestly boring as fuck to me. Hey bro if you want a cool band to listen to check out orbit culture....listen to the North Star of nija, flight of the fireflies or the shadowing first to see if you like them.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion I guess.
@@FVMGRIMREAPER even if it’s wrong😂😂