@@DrakonR Its still not worth double the price just because it has a longer warrantee dummy..duh. Think! The question is, does it provide double the performance to make it worth double the price, and the answer is an emphatic NO. You really think a longer warantee magically makes it worth double the price? Use you head. lol
@@donkey3187 perform all the mental gymnastics you'd like, you just sound like a goof that doesn't understand equations. You're literally arguing with statements I never made. Welcome to the mute list child.
Samsung has HDR10+, so its pretty much similar. Neither Dolby Vision or HDR10+ is used in gaming, only xbox series x has it and very few games support it anyway. Dolby Vision and HDR10+ is used in movies mostly. So you can easily get a 4K movie with HDR10+ if want.
@@TheEdmaster87 hdr10+ and dolby vision isn't really similar, dolby vision is the better format and more capable, but you are right when you said for gaming it's useless. For movies however, a whole different story!!
It's awesome, eh? I bought the 65 inch back in March, and once I calibrated it I was floored by how awesome it looked. Gaming is crazy. Do you find that you have any screen uniformity issues with yours, though? I've noticed some color banding and a bit of flickering during some shows and movies, but beyond that it's damn near perfect and well worth the money
nice son, no, its not worth the extra $1k. I have a A95L 55" and 3 LG OLED TVs, my C2 83" is just as fun to watch as the A95L. The A95L colors do get brighter, however, unless they are side by side, you would never miss or want it. Never once have I said I wish my C2 was brighter, heck even my LG B7 (a 7+ year OLED TV) looks bright enough.
Once calibrated QD OLED destroys WOLED in every way except that largest QD OLED caps out at 77 inch. WOLED is old tech and with S95D having a matte screen that destroys contrast of QD OLED that Leaves the S90D the undisputed king of OLED TV’s. Only thing close is Sony A95L but that price tag plus weaker gaming performance to me makes S90D king of 2024
I had 4 oleds. Panasonic fz950 55", traded for an lg c1 55", and thr in a huge discount i got an lg a1 65". Now i sold my lg c1 and got a samsung s90d. For having lg i havr no conplaines. Oled is fantastic. But thr samsung s90d is a step up. I know g4 is fantastic, but the price made me chose s90d that has better colors among other things.
Good choice! I almost grabbed the S90D myself, but I hate money and decided to burn all of it. Best of luck to both of us! I have a QD-OLED monitor for gaming, though 😎
S90D and C4 are slamming good deals right now. It really does get tough to justify spending more. In context, the A95L is nearly TWICE the price of the S90D. And both are QD OLED.
And the ONLY leg up the A95L might have on the S90D is processing power. Other than that the S90D is brighter, more colorful and offers SO much more in the way of inputs, gaming, etc. Only reason anyone should not buy a Samsung QD OLED right now is if they really, REALLY want an LG or a Sony due to brand loyalty, aka repeat buyers that want to go with what they know, and not step out of the comfort zone (and have money to burn, lol)
@@Whitewolf_1186 I own an A95L now and agree with what you’re saying. I’m in this thread because I’m considering getting a S90D at this point. It’s going to sound strange, but the A95L has a picture that “should” be the starting point for any television, however it’s boring. I was a long tv LG Owner, HD and 4K content would “wow” you with the detail and motion. I do like a bit of soap opera effect in my shows tuned down to my liking, the A95L fights that. In Gaming on my CX I would play out of game mode to add smooth motion processing to my games which made them look great. I think I’d have ALLM on and VRR off or some variety of that, however games played well and looked great with no apparent lag. On the A95L the way I played before seems impossible. Game play outside of Game Mode is unplayable due to lag. I also don’t like the fact there aren’t 4 HDMI 2.1 jacks which forces you to operate devices that require that type of connection from a switch. It’s a step back from what I’m used to. Generally I feel like it’s tamed and not allowed to be wild and free like Samsung televisions. I had and returned a S95B once that looked great but was kind of meh when upscaling regular hd content on Netflix. Hopefully this has been resolved with the new processor.
Both TVs, including the S95D, are great for gaming, especially on PC and 144hz mode. Gaming on HDR the G4 wins easily and is on par with S95D, but it comes down to if the game has proper HDR or you have to mod it using RTX HDR or reshade add-ons, it also depends on the black levels are 100% black. I have the G4 77" and it's amazing, it's so bright and responsive with very low input lag, but either TV will give you good gaming performance. I love my G4 simply because you can tune the HDR picture more because 4x 144hz HDMI ports and because it's very bright at 10% Window in HDR scenes, but like I said, you have to analyze the game's HDR first because many games have broken HDR and that does not look good on any OLED, but through mods and addons on PC at least you can fix this, or you can adjust the TV to fix this (LG is better with this)
@@TheEdmaster87WOLEDs HDR performance is not on par with QD-OLEDs HDR performance though. The lack of color volume on WOLEDs means QD-OLEDs will be able to produce more accurate colors in HDR, especially in REC 2020 color gamut.
The S90D is fantastic value on paper but Samsung's spotty quality control, and worse warranty makes me take a pause. Not to mention lack of DV and DTS (I have over 30+ TB of remuxed blu-ray files, a lot of which have DTS-HD MA). I'm also not a fan of Tizen which only has 1 year of support vs LG's WebOS which has 5.
@@Tidbitkid That'd be an easy warranty case, though, and so far it would seem to be just a one-off thing rather than a systematic issue. Make sure the store you buy from has a good return/replacement policy and it shouldn't be an issue.
@@MayaPosch Most warranties do no cover damage in shipping and logistics often citing you have to open the TV before leaving the store or first day of receiving for a creditable approved coverage if not it's considered the stores fault. Perhaps why ppl are buying directly from the manufacturers website instead of a bigbox chain due to denial of coverage from all chain before it ends up in the consumer hands.
For me Samsung is dead. I have experienced twice how TV was made worse with later updates. Example: S95B at the beginning 1300+ Nits with update to 13x firmware 1050 Nits
I just ordered the G4 from Best Buy 3 days ago.. I have a QD-OLED computer monitor and hope I'm not disappointed. It would have been nice to save the money, but I'm lucky enough that the G4 was still within my budget... sort of. It was about 30% more expensive for me than a S90D and even if it's only 5 - 10 percent better, and the lack of QD colors doesn't bother me, I'll consider this a win. Thanks for the updated video, I may have re(-re-re-re-re) considered the S90D again had I seen this before purchase. Enough thinking about what to buy, time to enjoy some movies!
Saved yourself because they failed to mention the pixel layout of the s90d for pc use. its a triangular pixel layout and not great for pc use according to thier own review on their website.
@@kachow5830 from a google search, it appears the pixel layout is the same. How noticeable it is might be different because it could be a smaller screen so may be less noticeable I do not know.
@kachow5830 I don't mind the text fringing on the Alienware 34 inch ultrawide (AW3423DWF?) and love the colors. TV will be 40% movies 40% TV shows 20% gaming, with most gaming happening on Alienware. I hope the image processing makes up for the lesser color volume. Hopefully, I don't notice a major difference in colors between the two.
I would buy a Samsung, but seeing quality issues year after year really keeps me away. Not to mention that I don't like the Tizen OS and the video processing is still below Sony and LG in my opinion. Waiting for a Black Friday discount to splash the cash on a G4.
Had the S89C 77in ( S90C with different stand) and it was bitter sweet. There's allot of quirks that I found out are kind of wide spread for Samsung. I didn't have to put up with on my 65in C1. I called in for warranty repair and the process took almost 2 months ending with a full refund but I missed that 3000 LG G4 with free soundbar deal ugh. This is not my first Samsung TV but It was my first big money Samsung TV. What I'm willing to put up with for a cheap TV does not translate to flagship type TV. Luckily The LG partner store had a great deal on the 77in C4 with a free soundbar (S90TR worth over $800). I heard about Samsungs quality control outside of Mobile devices witch I have like phone and tablet but I did not think Id have any problems. Even if the TV worked like it should there's allot that still bothers me using their TV. Picture processing wasn't as good as my C1 (We still have a 65in left in the house) I know there will be a dip in picture quality when the C4 gets here but I haven't observed a huge difference gaming and movie watching on this C1 65in while waiting on my C4.
Love my s90d. It's my first OLED. wish I could find some professional settings or better settings to maximize the tv. I just use stock on Standard. I watch sports, TV shows and movies here and there. I might buy a 2nd one for the basement room.
How strong is alpha 11 4k procesor compared to rtx gpu? When I watched some Max shows in HD SDR via app and then via my pc's browser using nvidia rtx upscaling and hdr via my 4080, it looked much better on via pc. Why is that? Shouldn't alpha 11 be more capable than that?
I actually see at big box stores a ton of Samsung reps even at Costco. Like so many times rarely do I see a LG rep but they do buy a good place on the floor to display them proudly.
@@Tidbitkid I haven’t seen a single Samsung advert for OLED or TVs in years. I have seen tons of LG ones and every Google search about Samsung TV or OLEDs comes up with sponsored LG OLEDs and Soundbar. Which lg had paid Google for obviously. Retail store is full of retail staff who is severely ill informed toxic Sony or LG fan boy idiots who spreading misinformation to customers.
I won't buy another Samsung. It's not so much the picture quality but the build quality. I tried to be a good Samsung FanBoy but no longer. After 5 tv's in 10 years that have all crapped themselves way too soon. No more.
I just bought a 65 inches G4 $2,000 in my country with 2 years warranty....while the 65 inhces S90D has a higher price with one year warranty, a no brainer choice
Maybe do the C4 or S90D against the A95L. And say how cost of the A95L is a terrible buy. Nope pick the G4 the best overall TV of 2024 instead. In my opinion.
To add to the DV complaint, most steaming services only offer single layer DV - meaning you get almost indifferent experience from Samsung. The key deal breaker are those BRs fully mastered with DV ( double - layer), like Matrix. Samsung can’t decode one of the layer so the color and pq are noticeablly different. Plus no DTs support from Samsung so audio is also worse. So if you home theater lovers with a lot of physical collections Samsung TV is definitely a no-go. But otherwise don’t be fooled by the names.
You're talking about Dolby Vision Profile 7 content with a Base Layer (BL) and Enhancement Layer (MEL or FEL). Yeah I totally agree. I have a bunch of 4K DV Profile 7 files that look absolutely fantastic on our LG G2. Much better HDR quality than those in other DV Profiles (ie. 5, and 8) and standard HDR10. Looking to get the G4 as our 2nd TV.
Are the 55" s90d's all equipped with a QD OLED if purchasing in US? I read somewhere that recently they all have just OLED's now, but have no idea where to confirm this information. Any help will be greatly appreciated.🙏
Could you please make a video comparing the smallest sized C4 vs the smallest sized S90D and maybe the smallest sized A95L? 40 to 43 inches is all I can barely fit and since the S90D only has WOLED for those than I can’t do QD-OLED anyway. So, I’d like a comparison between the three WOLEDS of C4, S90D and A95L. Thanks for the review BTW.
I went for the 77" G4 because I got it for just above 3000 dollars. Neither the S95D or 90D I could mount on wall completely flat to the wall like on the G series. and yes this TV performs well in every scenario!
G4 is easy win for me. Amazing HDR and SDR, full audio passthrough (I have a good Home Theater). LG Oleds are better in general. LG protection is better against burn-in (We have RTINGS tests about that) and support is very good with many firmware and softwares updates. I have 2 LG Oleds also, a 42" C2 and 55" C1.
I dipped my toe into OLED with a B9 and I'm surprised how far video processing has come with my S90D. I like the QD-OLED colors on HDR content too. It's a small but noticeable step up over WOLED.
The matte coating on the S95D is just massively superior to either. It is like the difference between HD and SD if there is any light in your environment.
Been watching your videos lately. Years ago I got antsy and purchased a Sony X90J. I like the TV but always regretted not waiting a little extra and getting an OLED. Now I',m planning on getting a new OLED TV for the main room in a few months and I have to say I'm leaning very heavily towards the Samsung S90D.
Once calibrated QD OLED destroys WOLED in every way except that largest QD OLED caps out at 77 inch. WOLED is old tech and with S95D having a matte screen that destroys contrast of QD OLED that Leaves the S90D the undisputed king of OLED TV’s. Only thing close is Sony A95L but that price tag plus weaker gaming performance and lower gaming HDR performance to me makes S90D king of 2024
I don't like LG G4 it's too much expensive and it's only WOLED panel is not brightness is only illumination of filter yellow and green to look more brightness is Kill the red color skin tone look more yellow and green 🤔👎🏻
Thanks for this real world comparison. Too many reviewers neglect the fact that most people would never see a meaningful difference between these fantastic TV’s. In my mind the only reason to pay the premium price for the G4 over the S90D is if flush wall mounting is very important to you. Otherwise it’s the Samsung every time.
TVS da LG tem as cores viva colorida com o tom de pele mais próximo da realidade etc LG tem qualidade durabilidade confiabilidade experiência é imponente etc LG melhor fabricante de TVS DISPLAYS etc do mundo LG capricha em tudo 👑🏆
Hi Abby & the RTINGS team, thanks for the comparison. Would you know why the LG TVs always look green when compared to samsung TVs in all reviews, and yet both are considered to be equally accurate and have a sub 3 deltaE? It feels like either one would be off when it comes to accuracy, no? I can't find any info on this and it drives me crazy. ps: I have a LG c1 and it doesn't "feel" green at all, however on youtube it always does...
@@Thryfte that can occur regarding details, resolution, it can occur flickering, you can lose in color space, green/magenta hues and white balance can also be off if not set correctly in camera... However this would occur on both televisions since you're filming with the same camera and hopefully the same settings. Also, I've noticed this on all channels comparing WOLED to QD OLED TVs, and it's not just these ones...
What you get for the price of the LG is the longest consecutively consumer producing OLED panel manufacturer and their latest flagship tv from them with incremental improvments every year vs flash in the pan Samsung with many reported instances of poor build quality and early panel degradation vs LG. LG had a decade of QC and investment in the tech which they have a mature product that comes out now with ever improving as well as yearly lowering the cost of its production for the consumer. I would buy a Samsung in a few years if they can keep up with the required output to be competitive ie having all panel sizes available and continue improving without cutting corners in production QC. Also little ridiculous Samsung is not supporting Dolby Vision or DTS even AVRs have support for all major codecs and metadata these days why cut any of these is beyond me as the consumer loses the ability to watch what they want how they want. Why put the consumer at a disadvantage for some stance in the industry unless the alternative is widely used or payed for to be used in place at the same rate.
Samsung needs to invest in color accuracy. I have Sony A80J and Samsung S95C, I have to say Sony just looks better in dark room. Especially skin color tone. Samsung looks cold.
LG has become disappointing since the C series used to be their flagship great value pick. Now they have made the G series their main focus with exclusive features, which leads to much higher prices that are closer to Sony. Samsung has always been the LCD value leader, but could never realistically compete with LG OLED with LCD. With the S95 series as their first OLED, they remain the value leader and can mostly compete with products closer to twice their price. Hard to justify buying an OLED for twice the price over QD-OLED. One is evolution and the other is innovation. I think Samsung needs to focus on their QC issues and improve their upscaling and motion. Their software and processing is holding back their amazing TVs. Their ABL also seems a bit too aggressive. LG and Sony are still miles ahead in the software and chipset.
Carefull guys, in some countries Samsung is selling s90d 77 inch model with woled panel. Does samsung mentioned it? No! Is it important? Very! Depends on the country and legislation but from my point of view, this is not acceptable. As much as I love the q990d soundbar from samsung, i went for the G4 for a tv.
Can you please do a comparison of SDR with Oleds and Mini LEDs? Anyone that’s been to Costco has seen the s90d next to the Bravia 7 or X90L and the S90C and D look like the panel died.
Never again am I getting shitsung til they stop using $2 parts in flagships. Thats never gunna happen because they only care about margins. Their panels are only worth getting if their in a different brand, eg sony a95l. Every samsung product, except smartphones, ive had endless issues with. I truly hope more and more people refuse to buy because of unreliability
I decided not to buy LG Evo 65G4 after asking a local retailer to provide me with a TV stand to put it on my TV shelf, but he told me that LG supplier don’t have any stand for TV LG Evo 65G4 but TV mount
Great stuff! But it would be helpful to actually demonstrate the difference in motion processing and color saturation side by side which is not possible for customers like us. Best Buy’s and other show rooms play their TV in showroom mode. I asked this question in rtings forum and recommendation was to go with G4 since I got LG partner pricing. In bright rooms, I think G4 is a killer with extreme brightness.
Anyone have a g4 and experiencing a problem going into and coming out of hdr on series x? Doesn't happen all the time but it will go to the source screen and I have to get up, unplug the hdmi and plug it back in. I turned off vrr and it didnt help. It's getting pretty old 🙏
The G4 comes with a built in 5 year warranty. So that should be considered on the price comparison.
no it shouldnt...this comparison is about tv and picture quality
@@donkey3187 they also asked whether it's worth double the price...
Extended warranty absolutely plays a part. Rub two brain cells together.
@@DrakonR Its still not worth double the price just because it has a longer warrantee dummy..duh. Think! The question is, does it provide double the performance to make it worth double the price, and the answer is an emphatic NO. You really think a longer warantee magically makes it worth double the price? Use you head. lol
@@donkey3187 perform all the mental gymnastics you'd like, you just sound like a goof that doesn't understand equations.
You're literally arguing with statements I never made. Welcome to the mute list child.
@@donkey3187 appropriate avatar for a literal donkey.
Excellent comparison review! Thanks.
But is the Bravia 9 better than the S90D? Yes... yes it is.
Confused OLEDs exceed in areas a full array LCD cant as it's able to have absolute blacks down to the pixel level control.
OLEDs contrast will be superior.... but Sony processing is better
@@kclaytree2734 remember Panasonic is coming to North American market and will have OLED offerings.
@@kclaytree2734 Panasonic is entering the North American market would probably see what offerings are available from them.
Ewwwww bravia 9!!? TCL Qm8 is way better and its cheaper
SAMSUNG NEEDS DOLBY VISION & A HEAT SINK IN THEIR OLEDS THEN I'LL BUY.
Samsung has HDR10+, so its pretty much similar. Neither Dolby Vision or HDR10+ is used in gaming, only xbox series x has it and very few games support it anyway. Dolby Vision and HDR10+ is used in movies mostly. So you can easily get a 4K movie with HDR10+ if want.
@@TheEdmaster87 hdr10+ and dolby vision isn't really similar, dolby vision is the better format and more capable, but you are right when you said for gaming it's useless. For movies however, a whole different story!!
I got the 55" S90D two days ago. I was blown away by the picture quality, both in movie watching and gaming. I love this TV.
It's awesome, eh? I bought the 65 inch back in March, and once I calibrated it I was floored by how awesome it looked. Gaming is crazy. Do you find that you have any screen uniformity issues with yours, though? I've noticed some color banding and a bit of flickering during some shows and movies, but beyond that it's damn near perfect and well worth the money
Got the 55 today too 💪 can't wait
LG has a five year warranty as well Samsung is one year!
i dunno, i still trust LG more with OLED durability. I'm saving up for the C series.
According to RTINGS burn-in stress test, S95C is doing noticeably better than the G3
Bro just get the s90D instead of c series it’s a no brainer
Bro get the s90d best tv on the market right now and it has a CRAZY sale
Watching this on my 77 G4. Almost went with the A95L, but it just wasn't worth the extra grand.
Hope you're enjoying it! 😄
nice son, no, its not worth the extra $1k. I have a A95L 55" and 3 LG OLED TVs, my C2 83" is just as fun to watch as the A95L. The A95L colors do get brighter, however, unless they are side by side, you would never miss or want it. Never once have I said I wish my C2 was brighter, heck even my LG B7 (a 7+ year OLED TV) looks bright enough.
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Once calibrated QD OLED destroys WOLED in every way except that largest QD OLED caps out at 77 inch. WOLED is old tech and with S95D having a matte screen that destroys contrast of QD OLED that Leaves the S90D the undisputed king of OLED TV’s. Only thing close is Sony A95L but that price tag plus weaker gaming performance to me makes S90D king of 2024
Yup. You know what youre talking about.
Especially the pantone validation on the samsung is huge!
Great review, Abby! Thank you!
Thanks for watching! 😄
I had 4 oleds. Panasonic fz950 55", traded for an lg c1 55", and thr in a huge discount i got an lg a1 65". Now i sold my lg c1 and got a samsung s90d. For having lg i havr no conplaines. Oled is fantastic. But thr samsung s90d is a step up. I know g4 is fantastic, but the price made me chose s90d that has better colors among other things.
Good luck watching Dolby Vision or with DTS audio
Good choice! I almost grabbed the S90D myself, but I hate money and decided to burn all of it. Best of luck to both of us! I have a QD-OLED monitor for gaming, though 😎
@@sms8717 you sound salty are you okay ?
@@DisplayNAudioTech just spiiting some facts lil ninja
Awesome how long have you had the S90D & do you like your picture bright & dynamic like me 😁
S90D and C4 are slamming good deals right now. It really does get tough to justify spending more.
In context, the A95L is nearly TWICE the price of the S90D. And both are QD OLED.
And the ONLY leg up the A95L might have on the S90D is processing power. Other than that the S90D is brighter, more colorful and offers SO much more in the way of inputs, gaming, etc. Only reason anyone should not buy a Samsung QD OLED right now is if they really, REALLY want an LG or a Sony due to brand loyalty, aka repeat buyers that want to go with what they know, and not step out of the comfort zone (and have money to burn, lol)
@@Whitewolf_1186 I own an A95L now and agree with what you’re saying. I’m in this thread because I’m considering getting a S90D at this point.
It’s going to sound strange, but the A95L has a picture that “should” be the starting point for any television, however it’s boring.
I was a long tv LG Owner, HD and 4K content would “wow” you with the detail and motion. I do like a bit of soap opera effect in my shows tuned down to my liking, the A95L fights that.
In Gaming on my CX I would play out of game mode to add smooth motion processing to my games which made them look great. I think I’d have ALLM on and VRR off or some variety of that, however games played well and looked great with no apparent lag.
On the A95L the way I played before seems impossible. Game play outside of Game Mode is unplayable due to lag.
I also don’t like the fact there aren’t 4 HDMI 2.1 jacks which forces you to operate devices that require that type of connection from a switch. It’s a step back from what I’m used to.
Generally I feel like it’s tamed and not allowed to be wild and free like Samsung televisions. I had and returned a S95B once that looked great but was kind of meh when upscaling regular hd content on Netflix. Hopefully this has been resolved with the new processor.
Why dont yall include gaming performance comparisons to many of us buy these tvs for gaming
Both TVs, including the S95D, are great for gaming, especially on PC and 144hz mode. Gaming on HDR the G4 wins easily and is on par with S95D, but it comes down to if the game has proper HDR or you have to mod it using RTX HDR or reshade add-ons, it also depends on the black levels are 100% black. I have the G4 77" and it's amazing, it's so bright and responsive with very low input lag, but either TV will give you good gaming performance. I love my G4 simply because you can tune the HDR picture more because 4x 144hz HDMI ports and because it's very bright at 10% Window in HDR scenes, but like I said, you have to analyze the game's HDR first because many games have broken HDR and that does not look good on any OLED, but through mods and addons on PC at least you can fix this, or you can adjust the TV to fix this (LG is better with this)
But they do... They mention if brightness is reduced in Game Mode, they also measure input lag. Take a look at their articles through Google.
@@TheEdmaster87WOLEDs HDR performance is not on par with QD-OLEDs HDR performance though. The lack of color volume on WOLEDs means QD-OLEDs will be able to produce more accurate colors in HDR, especially in REC 2020 color gamut.
@@verttisyrjala2897thats only situationel as explained by fomo and brian on their video’s. Not all colors are always better
Great content. I only found C4 vs S90D Reviews when searching for G4 comparision. Really happy with my S90D
Glad we were able to fill that gap! 😄
Oh wow, I’m early for once! Too bad I can’t afford either. Keep up the good work, Abby!
ME TOO! Loving Abby all the way from Logan Nigeria, and we cant afford Sony A95L's in Nigeria like all you rich Americans can. God bless you all.,
Samsung quality control issues still prevalent it looks like with the misaligned HDMI ports.
Would love to see a LG B4 vs C4 comparison! Or B4 vs C4 vs G4!
They have it on their website via the compare tool
I’m loving my G4 so far.
The S90D is fantastic value on paper but Samsung's spotty quality control, and worse warranty makes me take a pause. Not to mention lack of DV and DTS (I have over 30+ TB of remuxed blu-ray files, a lot of which have DTS-HD MA). I'm also not a fan of Tizen which only has 1 year of support vs LG's WebOS which has 5.
In Germany they costs nearly the same.
Got the G4 77 inch for 3.2 k EUR in Belgium (discount + 250 EUR cashback). Stellar tv. Great for gaming.
Enjoy, I bought it in Croatia before three months for 3400€, amazing TV!
This will help: ALL OLED IS GOOD OLED
ITS ONLY BRIGHTER WHEN SHOWING WHITE!!! Nobody cares about how bright the flash on their camera is.
Can you please test the WOLED variant of the S90D?
A lot of people want to know.
I tend to shop for the thing that's about 95% as good for about 60% of the price.
Unless your get a tv that has bent metal covering the ports and a screen that has a slight bend.
@@Tidbitkid That'd be an easy warranty case, though, and so far it would seem to be just a one-off thing rather than a systematic issue.
Make sure the store you buy from has a good return/replacement policy and it shouldn't be an issue.
@@MayaPosch Most warranties do no cover damage in shipping and logistics often citing you have to open the TV before leaving the store or first day of receiving for a creditable approved coverage if not it's considered the stores fault. Perhaps why ppl are buying directly from the manufacturers website instead of a bigbox chain due to denial of coverage from all chain before it ends up in the consumer hands.
For me Samsung is dead. I have experienced twice how TV was made worse with later updates. Example: S95B at the beginning 1300+ Nits with update to 13x firmware 1050 Nits
I just ordered the G4 from Best Buy 3 days ago.. I have a QD-OLED computer monitor and hope I'm not disappointed. It would have been nice to save the money, but I'm lucky enough that the G4 was still within my budget... sort of. It was about 30% more expensive for me than a S90D and even if it's only 5 - 10 percent better, and the lack of QD colors doesn't bother me, I'll consider this a win. Thanks for the updated video, I may have re(-re-re-re-re) considered the S90D again had I seen this before purchase. Enough thinking about what to buy, time to enjoy some movies!
Saved yourself because they failed to mention the pixel layout of the s90d for pc use. its a triangular pixel layout and not great for pc use according to thier own review on their website.
A monitor much dimmer than a TV. My S90C looks much better than my G80SD in all situations.
@@tiwer1he said he got a qd oled monitor though so that will have the same issues right??
@@kachow5830 from a google search, it appears the pixel layout is the same. How noticeable it is might be different because it could be a smaller screen so may be less noticeable I do not know.
@kachow5830 I don't mind the text fringing on the Alienware 34 inch ultrawide (AW3423DWF?) and love the colors. TV will be 40% movies 40% TV shows 20% gaming, with most gaming happening on Alienware. I hope the image processing makes up for the lesser color volume. Hopefully, I don't notice a major difference in colors between the two.
In my country g4 price is nearly same as s90d i used price compare tools 55 inch only about 100 euro difference
LG has much better quality control.
If you say that Samsung S90D is better?? Congrats! You're a fanboy
LG Cope is real…
S95c v 90d ?
I would buy a Samsung, but seeing quality issues year after year really keeps me away. Not to mention that I don't like the Tizen OS and the video processing is still below Sony and LG in my opinion.
Waiting for a Black Friday discount to splash the cash on a G4.
Agree on that
Had the S89C 77in ( S90C with different stand) and it was bitter sweet. There's allot of quirks that I found out are kind of wide spread for Samsung. I didn't have to put up with on my 65in C1. I called in for warranty repair and the process took almost 2 months ending with a full refund but I missed that 3000 LG G4 with free soundbar deal ugh. This is not my first Samsung TV but It was my first big money Samsung TV. What I'm willing to put up with for a cheap TV does not translate to flagship type TV. Luckily The LG partner store had a great deal on the 77in C4 with a free soundbar (S90TR worth over $800). I heard about Samsungs quality control outside of Mobile devices witch I have like phone and tablet but I did not think Id have any problems. Even if the TV worked like it should there's allot that still bothers me using their TV. Picture processing wasn't as good as my C1 (We still have a 65in left in the house) I know there will be a dip in picture quality when the C4 gets here but I haven't observed a huge difference gaming and movie watching on this C1 65in while waiting on my C4.
Any chance on Panasonic tv reviews now they have re-entered the usa market. Would like too know how they stack up in your review suite 🔥🔥🔥
The SD90D with the X990 sound bar is a hard package to beat . Together same price a the G4.
Do you mean Q990D sound bar?
@@OnBakePlatinum Yes fat fingers
Please compare LG c4 48 inch vs Samsung s90D 48 inch
Absolutely agree!
Love my s90d. It's my first OLED. wish I could find some professional settings or better settings to maximize the tv. I just use stock on
Standard. I watch sports, TV shows and movies here and there. I might buy a 2nd one for the basement room.
How strong is alpha 11 4k procesor compared to rtx gpu? When I watched some Max shows in HD SDR via app and then via my pc's browser using nvidia rtx upscaling and hdr via my 4080, it looked much better on via pc. Why is that? Shouldn't alpha 11 be more capable than that?
All the LG reps in chat trying to defend it. Don’t worry you still get your big bonus from selling it.
I actually see at big box stores a ton of Samsung reps even at Costco. Like so many times rarely do I see a LG rep but they do buy a good place on the floor to display them proudly.
@@Tidbitkid I haven’t seen a single Samsung advert for OLED or TVs in years. I have seen tons of LG ones and every Google search about Samsung TV or OLEDs comes up with sponsored LG OLEDs and Soundbar. Which lg had paid Google for obviously. Retail store is full of retail staff who is severely ill informed toxic Sony or LG fan boy idiots who spreading misinformation to customers.
I won't buy another Samsung. It's not so much the picture quality but the build quality. I tried to be a good Samsung FanBoy but no longer. After 5 tv's in 10 years that have all crapped themselves way too soon. No more.
I just bought a 65 inches G4 $2,000 in my country with 2 years warranty....while the 65 inhces S90D has a higher price with one year warranty, a no brainer choice
Maybe do the C4 or S90D against the A95L. And say how cost of the A95L is a terrible buy. Nope pick the G4 the best overall TV of 2024 instead. In my opinion.
No DTS support is a showstopper for me. Ridiculous choice by Samsung.
I have the Q990 soundbar with my S89C and it sounds amazing
Thanks rtings. Always appreciate your info.
Love my S90C
To add to the DV complaint, most steaming services only offer single layer DV - meaning you get almost indifferent experience from Samsung. The key deal breaker are those BRs fully mastered with DV ( double - layer), like Matrix. Samsung can’t decode one of the layer so the color and pq are noticeablly different. Plus no DTs support from Samsung so audio is also worse. So if you home theater lovers with a lot of physical collections Samsung TV is definitely a no-go. But otherwise don’t be fooled by the names.
You're talking about Dolby Vision Profile 7 content with a Base Layer (BL) and Enhancement Layer (MEL or FEL). Yeah I totally agree. I have a bunch of 4K DV Profile 7 files that look absolutely fantastic on our LG G2. Much better HDR quality than those in other DV Profiles (ie. 5, and 8) and standard HDR10. Looking to get the G4 as our 2nd TV.
Are the 55" s90d's all equipped with a QD OLED if purchasing in US? I read somewhere that recently they all have just OLED's now, but have no idea where to confirm this information.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.🙏
Could you please make a video comparing the smallest sized C4 vs the smallest sized S90D and maybe the smallest sized A95L?
40 to 43 inches is all I can barely fit and since the S90D only has WOLED for those than I can’t do QD-OLED anyway.
So, I’d like a comparison between the three WOLEDS of C4, S90D and A95L.
Thanks for the review BTW.
In France, the S90D is less common and both G4 and S90D are currently available in the 2200-2500€range.
So NOT double price.
I went for the 77" G4 because I got it for just above 3000 dollars. Neither the S95D or 90D I could mount on wall completely flat to the wall like on the G series. and yes this TV performs well in every scenario!
3:40 not surprising for anyone that's bought Samsung TVs before... Definitely lack build quality/qc
G4 is easy win for me. Amazing HDR and SDR, full audio passthrough (I have a good Home Theater). LG Oleds are better in general. LG protection is better against burn-in (We have RTINGS tests about that) and support is very good with many firmware and softwares updates. I have 2 LG Oleds also, a 42" C2 and 55" C1.
a95l also costs twice as much as g4, but is it twice as good?🤦👎
Yes, A95L is better than G4. A95L had the G4 beat in the tv shootout.
I dipped my toe into OLED with a B9 and I'm surprised how far video processing has come with my S90D. I like the QD-OLED colors on HDR content too. It's a small but noticeable step up over WOLED.
The matte coating on the S95D is just massively superior to either. It is like the difference between HD and SD if there is any light in your environment.
Been watching your videos lately. Years ago I got antsy and purchased a Sony X90J. I like the TV but always regretted not waiting a little extra and getting an OLED. Now I',m planning on getting a new OLED TV for the main room in a few months and I have to say I'm leaning very heavily towards the Samsung S90D.
Once calibrated QD OLED destroys WOLED in every way except that largest QD OLED caps out at 77 inch. WOLED is old tech and with S95D having a matte screen that destroys contrast of QD OLED that Leaves the S90D the undisputed king of OLED TV’s. Only thing close is Sony A95L but that price tag plus weaker gaming performance and lower gaming HDR performance to me makes S90D king of 2024
Is the Samsung S90D better than the Sony Bravia 8? Specially for streaming movies? Thanks
Please review the new Panasonic tvs - z95a, z85a and the w95a. Thanks!
S90D is about 200 euro more expensive here than the G4, size for size. Uuck.
I'd buy a Hisense mini LED long before I'd buy anything from Samsung. Samsung is overpriced mid tier at best.
Just got my s90d yesterday for $1400 through Samsung
Only for you guys, seems the s90d is woled in the uk from what I gather from fomo's video.
I don't like LG G4 it's too much expensive and it's only WOLED panel is not brightness is only illumination of filter yellow and green to look more brightness is Kill the red color skin tone look more yellow and green 🤔👎🏻
Hello are you interested in reviewing JIMMY product?
why is the HDR gradient on Samsung so reddish?
Thanks for this real world comparison. Too many reviewers neglect the fact that most people would never see a meaningful difference between these fantastic TV’s. In my mind the only reason to pay the premium price for the G4 over the S90D is if flush wall mounting is very important to you. Otherwise it’s the Samsung every time.
TVS da LG tem as cores viva colorida com o tom de pele mais próximo da realidade etc LG tem qualidade durabilidade confiabilidade experiência é imponente etc LG melhor fabricante de TVS DISPLAYS etc do mundo LG capricha em tudo 👑🏆
Thanks Abby!👍😉
The 77 inch S90D will be my next tv, I was going to buy the TCL QM8 but I'm saving up for the OLED instead.
Wise decision
@@tracer073fr. S90d even better than s95d
DV is such an irrelevant marketing gimmick on high end TV 😂😂😂
HEY! IT'S BASE IS TERRIBLE!! & CAN'T FULLY COUNTERACT INERTIA
I want Dolby Vision. G4 it is then.
G4 wins
Idk but to me lg tvs are the best puriod
No thank you to any LG products.
个人感觉三星的调色更讨喜
In canada the 83" g4 is $7400 and the 83" s90d is $6400. If you know where i can get a 83" s90d for $3700 please let me know
QD-OLED WINNERS 🏆
There is no perfect TV. Just pick one that you can afford and enjoy it.
That's correct, but we still try to get as much information for people out there for people to make the best decision!
i was here
S95D better
quand la Z95 pan
Unless one absolutely must have dolby vision, S90D is pretty good value here. Almost as bright and processing but has great colors
For sure, there's a reason we recommend the S90D as our current best TV!
I agree 100%, or the S90C if u can still pick one up, u will get a heck of a deal on a S90C, and ratings loved the S90C
It's way brighter in colour volume.
Dolby vision is a joke. HDR10 does the same dam thing. Have some sense people.
Hi Abby & the RTINGS team, thanks for the comparison.
Would you know why the LG TVs always look green when compared to samsung TVs in all reviews, and yet both are considered to be equally accurate and have a sub 3 deltaE?
It feels like either one would be off when it comes to accuracy, no? I can't find any info on this and it drives me crazy.
ps: I have a LG c1 and it doesn't "feel" green at all, however on youtube it always does...
Perhaps just from filming a screen.. like recording audio out of a stereo, it loses some quality ?
@@Thryfte that can occur regarding details, resolution, it can occur flickering, you can lose in color space, green/magenta hues and white balance can also be off if not set correctly in camera... However this would occur on both televisions since you're filming with the same camera and hopefully the same settings. Also, I've noticed this on all channels comparing WOLED to QD OLED TVs, and it's not just these ones...
Caleb of Digital Trends addressed this issue with rtings in his video release
@@kclaytree2734 His release video of the G4 you mean?
What you get for the price of the LG is the longest consecutively consumer producing OLED panel manufacturer and their latest flagship tv from them with incremental improvments every year vs flash in the pan Samsung with many reported instances of poor build quality and early panel degradation vs LG. LG had a decade of QC and investment in the tech which they have a mature product that comes out now with ever improving as well as yearly lowering the cost of its production for the consumer. I would buy a Samsung in a few years if they can keep up with the required output to be competitive ie having all panel sizes available and continue improving without cutting corners in production QC.
Also little ridiculous Samsung is not supporting Dolby Vision or DTS even AVRs have support for all major codecs and metadata these days why cut any of these is beyond me as the consumer loses the ability to watch what they want how they want. Why put the consumer at a disadvantage for some stance in the industry unless the alternative is widely used or payed for to be used in place at the same rate.
Samsung needs to invest in color accuracy. I have Sony A80J and Samsung S95C, I have to say Sony just looks better in dark room. Especially skin color tone. Samsung looks cold.
Could you please compare LG OLED83C46LA Ultra with LG 86QNED91T6A Ultra, thank you greetings from turkey
Unfortunately not available in 55" QD-OLED in the EU or Germany. Unfortunately there is no test of the Woled version on RUclips. What a pity.
LG has become disappointing since the C series used to be their flagship great value pick. Now they have made the G series their main focus with exclusive features, which leads to much higher prices that are closer to Sony. Samsung has always been the LCD value leader, but could never realistically compete with LG OLED with LCD. With the S95 series as their first OLED, they remain the value leader and can mostly compete with products closer to twice their price. Hard to justify buying an OLED for twice the price over QD-OLED. One is evolution and the other is innovation.
I think Samsung needs to focus on their QC issues and improve their upscaling and motion. Their software and processing is holding back their amazing TVs. Their ABL also seems a bit too aggressive. LG and Sony are still miles ahead in the software and chipset.
Carefull guys, in some countries Samsung is selling s90d 77 inch model with woled panel. Does samsung mentioned it? No! Is it important? Very!
Depends on the country and legislation but from my point of view, this is not acceptable.
As much as I love the q990d soundbar from samsung, i went for the G4 for a tv.
Can you please do a comparison of SDR with Oleds and Mini LEDs? Anyone that’s been to Costco has seen the s90d next to the Bravia 7 or X90L and the S90C and D look like the panel died.
Never again am I getting shitsung til they stop using $2 parts in flagships. Thats never gunna happen because they only care about margins. Their panels are only worth getting if their in a different brand, eg sony a95l. Every samsung product, except smartphones, ive had endless issues with. I truly hope more and more people refuse to buy because of unreliability
I decided not to buy LG Evo 65G4 after asking a local retailer to provide me with a TV stand to put it on my TV shelf, but he told me that LG supplier don’t have any stand for TV LG Evo 65G4 but TV mount
Great stuff! But it would be helpful to actually demonstrate the difference in motion processing and color saturation side by side which is not possible for customers like us. Best Buy’s and other show rooms play their TV in showroom mode. I asked this question in rtings forum and recommendation was to go with G4 since I got LG partner pricing. In bright rooms, I think G4 is a killer with extreme brightness.
Another great video! Thanks for thinking again in the cost x benefit factor, it's really not everyone that can just get some 55'+ Flagship OLED.
Anyone have a g4 and experiencing a problem going into and coming out of hdr on series x? Doesn't happen all the time but it will go to the source screen and I have to get up, unplug the hdmi and plug it back in. I turned off vrr and it didnt help. It's getting pretty old 🙏
Sony Bravia B9 for the 🏆
Dang, no comments
Yet 😎
Abby is a really great host, doubt I'd watch every video without someone so engaging.
still a nope for me... i aint buyin Samsung TVs anymore. no one can convince me otherwise.