Is CS2 on a Minimum Spec PC Playable?

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  • @andrasfogarasi5014
    @andrasfogarasi5014 9 месяцев назад +2995

    Imagine trying to benchmark under varied loads but being unable to do so because people keep picking Mirage. This truly is a Counter-Strike experience.

    • @white_mage
      @white_mage 9 месяцев назад +75

      getting shot down from the back or sides by someone who spawned from thin air is also a cs2 experience.

    • @Seaker71
      @Seaker71 9 месяцев назад +9

      W people

    • @riston7264
      @riston7264 9 месяцев назад

      @@Seaker71L as fuck

    • @gruffen2222
      @gruffen2222 9 месяцев назад +7

      And man will say comp means nothing so play premier 💀

    • @varsik289
      @varsik289 9 месяцев назад +1

      Not my fault Mirage and Dust2 run better than Nuke, Ancient and Anubis...

  • @Mar_Ten
    @Mar_Ten 9 месяцев назад +1

    Congratulations Philip on 1 million subs! I have been here for so long now. Hopefully your brothers will catch up with the growth too. 1 million is truly a lot man, and you deserve every single sub. Let’s go for the 2 million!

  • @Fejszi
    @Fejszi 9 месяцев назад +1

    Philip swearing is something that caught me off guard, I've been watching since 2019, but never heard it being this easily said :D Nice one Phil keep up the good work.

  • @VolcanicAsh1586
    @VolcanicAsh1586 7 месяцев назад

    Until a recent upgrade 2 weeks ago, I was running CS2 on just above the minimum requirements, with a i7 4790, 16GB DDR3 1600MHz, and a HD 7770 1GB! The GPU was a huge bottleneck - at lowest settings the game was around 40-50fps average for me with a lot of stuttering, so I'm surprised to see it running so well for you here.

  • @AntonioZL
    @AntonioZL 9 месяцев назад

    Caboosing, Mr. Fluffykins and hardware talk. Truly a Kliksphilip moment.

  • @joel06sk
    @joel06sk 9 месяцев назад

    I've got the i3 12100 and Rx 6500xt in my main rig with 16gb ram and I've never had any problems. The performance is great (coming from an i3-2310m and GeForce 410m) I've never had less than 100fps in cs2 with high-mid graphics settings

  • @GradoRam
    @GradoRam 7 месяцев назад

    Used to play on an i5-650 and a rx 570 build until recently and I used to play csgo a lot but until the overhaul I couldn't run it anymore, cs2 is one of the reasons why i upgraded my specs to a i5-12400f and a rx6600 lol

    • @crylune
      @crylune 7 месяцев назад

      Great upgrade. Best value CPU and GPU right there

  • @dziglis.mp4
    @dziglis.mp4 9 месяцев назад

    This guy has never seen a slavic computer.

  • @BasedParadise
    @BasedParadise 9 месяцев назад +2

    I'm playing on a stock 4690k(no hyperthreading) and rtx 2060 6gb with 16gb dd3 2133mhz ram. I know my cpu is terribly outdated but, i have been able to play every game i have tried so far without much issue. CS:GO ran at around 200+ fps on 1440p. CS2 barely gets 50-60 fps with constant stutters so i can't even play it anymore :(

    • @randomgamingin144p
      @randomgamingin144p 9 месяцев назад

      my i7 4790 is handling the game at 200+ fps on 1080p with a gtx 1650
      probably upgrade to a i7 tier xeon for the same socket, or if you can find one, a cheap i7 for the same socket

  • @jaxondabac8808
    @jaxondabac8808 9 месяцев назад

    It's my understanding all AMD gpus get a short period of super stutter when first running CS2, but funs better in 30 seconds and perfect after a few minutes

  • @bell6692
    @bell6692 9 месяцев назад

    RX 550 2gb 64bit, i5 3330, 8gb ram, HDD = constant 64 fps on 16:9, 1280 - 720 with dips to 50/high 40s

  • @krazed0451
    @krazed0451 9 месяцев назад +1008

    The 85gb install requirements are a holdover from when CSGO and CS2 were still installed in the same directory ;-)

    • @ikariameriks
      @ikariameriks 9 месяцев назад +4

      Now they install separately?

    • @forple8930
      @forple8930 9 месяцев назад +96

      @@ikariameriks They share a folder. The catch is, CSGO's assets are MIA unless you opt into playing it via the legacy build.

    • @krazed0451
      @krazed0451 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@ikariameriks Yes, separately :-)

    • @rickjames5998
      @rickjames5998 9 месяцев назад +2

      how can I get rid of the csgo files if csgo is dead then?

    • @kitrod
      @kitrod 9 месяцев назад +20

      @@rickjames5998 you don't have them unless you've opted into the legacy build on steam

  • @richjohns6132
    @richjohns6132 9 месяцев назад +804

    You know 3kliks.. You're a legend in the game man for quite a long time. I thank you for the vast amounts of knowledge you've bestowed upon this community for countless years. Thanks for all you do and all your work!

    • @FonikosGazmas
      @FonikosGazmas 9 месяцев назад +14

      ​@@3kliksphilipThis is the first time I have asked something from a youtuber. Im curious what is going on with Arc GPUs when it comes to this game. And I wonder what the 770 16GB could do with all that VRAM but with a "weak" cheapset when it cones to CS.

    • @Fabbyyy
      @Fabbyyy 9 месяцев назад +3

      bro has like 1 Billion views combined in all his channels. He's living from this and propably has made bank from it aswell. he doesn't need your thanks.

    • @hamishmatthews21
      @hamishmatthews21 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@FonikosGazmasi’d love to see that too!!

    • @rewindd
      @rewindd 9 месяцев назад +36

      @@Fabbyyywhat are you yapping about

    • @yoMXTT
      @yoMXTT 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@FabbyyyAlthough I do also appreciate the content, Lets not forget the dude is making an insane amount of money from doing so. I highly doubt all of these super in depth and painful videos would be done for free if he made 0 money from them.

  • @uphjo6969
    @uphjo6969 9 месяцев назад +185

    i love clicking phillips 3 times

    • @gunkh4n229
      @gunkh4n229 7 месяцев назад +1

      i just now realised that

    • @uphjo6969
      @uphjo6969 7 месяцев назад

      @@gunkh4n229 real

  • @s34l_
    @s34l_ 9 месяцев назад +903

    CS2 getting 60-90 on the minimum specs is honestly insane, I was expecting something under 30

    • @thighhighenthusiastic1268
      @thighhighenthusiastic1268 9 месяцев назад +33

      I don’t get what is the outcry about that people getting 30 fps, i know i have a rather strong videocard (rtx 3070) but when i played on 1080p low i had like 300 fps and the card was running on 40%

    • @xogmaster
      @xogmaster 9 месяцев назад +112

      @@thighhighenthusiastic1268 if ur card's only using 40% of its power then your CPU isn't strong enough to utilize 100% of the GPU's power for the game ur running

    • @mstgamescrafts
      @mstgamescrafts 9 месяцев назад +24

      i get 40 fps on all settings on low 1024x768 res on nvidia quadro 600 1gb 8 gigs ddr 3 ram and i3 2100

    • @besher532
      @besher532 9 месяцев назад +43

      ​@mstgamescrafts I am more amazed that it gets higher than 30, that cpu is being tortured every time you open the game

    • @mad_scientist5597
      @mad_scientist5597 9 месяцев назад +15

      @@thighhighenthusiastic1268 i used to be getting 30ish fps in games like csgo or even tf2, so I used resolutions such as 640x480 or 800x600 and other tricks. sure people get better computers over time but games also become more demanding, so I'm sure some people still walk the way of the toaster

  • @ZappasMudshark
    @ZappasMudshark 9 месяцев назад +171

    Hey man just wanted to thank you. Your videos got this ancient 39 year old to finally start playing cs (2 that is). Only doing casual to learn it but love it.

    • @dayne6475
      @dayne6475 9 месяцев назад +8

      Best of luck on your journey man!

    • @EthicalAllele
      @EthicalAllele 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@3kliksphilip Oh my god, this exactly describes why I have been having such a bad time with this game recently! I really love this game, but lately I haven't been wanting to pick it up anymore. I have been dreading losing and having no impact in my matches. I'll try readjusting my mentality, thanks for the tip!

    • @L0wSkiller
      @L0wSkiller 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@EthicalAllelethink of it this way, when you die or lose games, mistakes were made 😊 if you have the luxury of recording your gameplay and watching it back you can find some big issues in your own gameplay. Just think:
      Did I die to positioning error, or mechanical error? Why was I in the area I was in/ would I have positioned myself like that again if I had the same info? Was I exposed to too many things? How could I have played with a teammate in that scenario? Did I die with utility on my belt?
      Even just asking "what did I do wrong there" can be huge. Even if you win rounds. Yes it won the round, but these players might be bad, would this have been a way to win a round against better players that have better aim?
      Edit: Jocko Willink has a good motivational speech about it. I think it's the "good" speach? Like you lose a game because of bad aim? Good. You have room to improve. You lose a game because of bad mental? Good. Take a deep breath, get back on the horse, you have room to improve. It's worth a watch if you haven't seen it 😎

    • @EthicalAllele
      @EthicalAllele 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@L0wSkiller Got it, I'll try analyzing the replays that get recorded. I'll also find the speech you mentioned. 👍

    • @Bootymuncher23
      @Bootymuncher23 6 месяцев назад

      Bro is older than my dad

  • @512TheWolf512
    @512TheWolf512 9 месяцев назад +157

    Will you ever come back to making maps for the game, I wonder? Your series on de sparity is still the single most favourite thing you've ever done, to me

  • @imromano2448
    @imromano2448 9 месяцев назад +68

    This video reminds me of me growing up in Brazil playing every game on minimum spec and trying to squeeze every last frame from my games to have a playable 30fps haha. Makes me thankful for being able to afford high end stuff nowdays :) I am sure this video right now is helping someone somewhere who is just trying to have some fun with counter strike on their old hardware. Thanks Philip!

  • @Nolsjokes
    @Nolsjokes 9 месяцев назад +98

    kinda sad how the way he described the pc made it seem like it was from 1995 but it ended up running so much better than my pc

    • @fitmotheyap
      @fitmotheyap 9 месяцев назад +26

      Yeah, it has a 12th gen CPU when I still use a 4th gen 4770S, the CPU alone is carrying heavily

    • @eX1st4132
      @eX1st4132 9 месяцев назад +13

      this is a minimum spec DESKTOP pc. I would bet your pc is either really old, or a laptop for it to perform worse than this.

    • @Nolsjokes
      @Nolsjokes 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@eX1st4132 my gpu is like 13 something years old so yeah

    • @4lineclear
      @4lineclear 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@Nolsjokes There's probably people playing younger than your gpu lmao

    • @FuoZuo
      @FuoZuo 8 месяцев назад +1

      yea, im still using i3-5005u

  • @WhatWouldYouHaveYourArbiterDo
    @WhatWouldYouHaveYourArbiterDo 9 месяцев назад +48

    While both of those GPUs are definitely well selected terrible cards, I suspect the initial stuttering that goes away you mentioned is more to do with CS2 building its shader cache for previously unrendered content. This is behaviour that I have observed across a range of low/medium to high end hardware from both the green and red teams across my friend group, especially after driver updates.

    • @EthicalAllele
      @EthicalAllele 9 месяцев назад +8

      Yup, same here. I always use DDU when installing new driver updates, and CS2 is very stuttery in the menus and in the first minute of a game right after a clean driver install. It happens for a bunch of other games too. (6800XT)

    • @LPgmxDan
      @LPgmxDan 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@EthicalAllelemight wanna try the tool and has for doing it.
      With ddu it bugged unable to install new drivers until the AMD cleanup solved it

    • @EthicalAllele
      @EthicalAllele 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@LPgmxDan I have never had any issues using DDU. I don't think the stuttering is even an issue because I'd imagine clean installing drivers would always clear the shader cache regardless of if I'm using AMD Cleanup Utility or DDU. I'll definitely try it for my next driver update, but I'm not expecting it to change anything 😅

  • @hannanah8036
    @hannanah8036 9 месяцев назад +20

    why do I watch these videos when I stopped playing CS over 5 years ago? No idea.
    Are they as interesting as they were when I played? More so
    Your enthusiasm rubs off amazingly

  • @Randarrradara
    @Randarrradara 9 месяцев назад +177

    It feels like Philip is pushing some boundaries and becomes more weird-interesting-cynical with each video.

  • @bermuda333
    @bermuda333 9 месяцев назад +92

    Might have been interesting to test it on integrated graphics. I remember my first laptop ran CSGO at only 25 fps on integrated graphics. Would be interesting to see how well CS2 is ran on that.

    • @infinite7620
      @infinite7620 9 месяцев назад +8

      No…no it wouldn’t have been lol

    • @goshu123
      @goshu123 9 месяцев назад +18

      My core i3 has integrated graphics and it barely runs at 30fps and it freezes constantly

    • @Bassalicious
      @Bassalicious 9 месяцев назад +9

      It's below minimum spec and anything weaker than a 6500XT won't be competitive, as 3kliks concluded. The game might launch but performance won't be acceptable. This wasn't a "will it launch?" video, but a "how playable is minimum spec?" one and we've got our answer.
      If there are APUs roughly equivalent to the 6500XT then one of those would've been interesting but idk if they exist.

    • @socialist_elmo
      @socialist_elmo 9 месяцев назад +1

      expect to get less than 60 fps at 720p and fsr performance on the vega 8

    • @ShadowOnWiiU
      @ShadowOnWiiU 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@Bassalicious the amd strix point/halo iGPUs should perform like a 1050 ti, would be interesting when they come out

  • @ixamsod
    @ixamsod 9 месяцев назад +22

    that caboozing at 7:30 hits like a truck. i love it

  • @KingKush-420
    @KingKush-420 9 месяцев назад +4

    Tell me why your pc runs cs2 better then my 2080 ti, reyzen 5 5600 build lol

  • @manmansgotmans
    @manmansgotmans 9 месяцев назад +88

    Our humble king. He says he's bad at CS, yet he's put out years of CS content, even made maps. Thank you kliks

  • @Dmitrii8884
    @Dmitrii8884 9 месяцев назад +2

    Man. You literally run the game on a cpu (I3 12100f) that compares against i7 8700 in game comparisons and benchmarks paired with fast 3200 ram and you name that CS2 on minimum spec? Minimum spec PC for CS2 would be something like i3 6100 paired with ddr3 ram..

  • @InHUM44n
    @InHUM44n 9 месяцев назад +13

    You mentioned "infamous stuttering" at the end. For my friends and I, it happens quite often when using the AWP's scope.

    • @imperialwatch1966
      @imperialwatch1966 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, I stutter anywhere from a tenth to a quarter of a second when I scope in with the AWP, scout, AUG, or Sig. Tried changing a bunch of settings, mainly anti-aliasing, but nothing seems to fix it.

  • @12jn00gb
    @12jn00gb 7 месяцев назад +3

    It looks much better than mine 💀

  • @SoruxYT
    @SoruxYT 9 месяцев назад +4

    Mine doesn't meet the minimum requirements 💀

  • @Th3EpitapH
    @Th3EpitapH 9 месяцев назад +10

    4:25 super aliased, low res, and torn cs2 isn't a bad vibe honestly. the semi-photoreal clutter and texture detail with those effects and the saturated lighting make for a retro-adjacent look that i prefer to a lot of the retro 3d stuff that's been floating around the past few years

  • @BeconIsYeck
    @BeconIsYeck 9 месяцев назад +7

    Yeah... Me with my integrated graphics doesn't do so well with CS2. I struggle to get 40fps on the absolute lowest resolutions and settings. Completed killed playing CS for me.

    • @knipsi22
      @knipsi22 9 месяцев назад +2

      That sucks. But tbh you tryna game on integrated graphics? Yes of course your pc will struggle on any recent game.

    • @tostadorafuriosa69
      @tostadorafuriosa69 9 месяцев назад

      play css instead

    • @BeconIsYeck
      @BeconIsYeck 9 месяцев назад +1

      i do play css@@tostadorafuriosa69

    • @Tokenq
      @Tokenq 6 месяцев назад

      Go play games from 2005 if you wanna game on integrated graphics lol

  • @alfonsoserramartinez1344
    @alfonsoserramartinez1344 9 месяцев назад +7

    Currently playing on a 2016' laptop. A i5 7th gen, a gt 940m and 8gb of ram.
    I support playing at 40/50fps and sudden frame drops. I don't wanna accept my setup is bad

    • @min3craftpolska514
      @min3craftpolska514 3 месяца назад

      wtf?? i get 40/50 on lowest on an i5 1250p, 16gb ddr5 4800mhz, intel iris xe laptop

  • @C1maCat
    @C1maCat 9 месяцев назад +1

    the 85gB thing is for different platforms. Somehow on Ubuntu linux, counter strike takes up about 80gB.

  • @Jusu
    @Jusu 9 месяцев назад +4

    hello philip, i am still here and watching

    • @ceeeya
      @ceeeya 9 месяцев назад

      konaaa

    • @ahtomogger9969
      @ahtomogger9969 9 месяцев назад +2

      Harvinainen simpanssi tapahtuma alkaa tiistaina oletko valmis?

  • @RossWasTaken
    @RossWasTaken 9 месяцев назад +2

    i7 7700k can't pull a consistent 120fps even with a 4060 :/
    I get the 7700k is old now with poorer single core performance than something like a 12100, but really? I'm getting better framerates in Squad/Arma Reforger than in cs2? It's disheartening and haven't really bothered playing at all when i drop under 85 fps from a couple smokes (or even lower if on Ancient at CT side spawn when everyone starts moving - though there's no action but it's still painful).

  • @clementineshetheyfae8312
    @clementineshetheyfae8312 6 месяцев назад +16

    Generated art 💀

    • @flooku987
      @flooku987 Месяц назад

      ^AIrt is prob the Rick roll of this new gen with all these people fallin 4thebait

  • @mancavegamingandgardening9901
    @mancavegamingandgardening9901 9 месяцев назад +10

    Always nice to see that troublesome 6500 XT come into play Philip. Have you seen that new RTX 4060 Ti that has the m.2 slot? Now we need playing CS2 on minimum settings on the 6500 XT played through the 4060 ti

  • @m4righella85
    @m4righella85 9 месяцев назад +17

    The most disapointing thing in CS 2, for me, is how bad and grainy the game looks in 1024x728 res. I've played on this config for more than 5 years in CS:GO and now it is literally unplayable, you can't even see the enemies.

    • @walkergossett1345
      @walkergossett1345 9 месяцев назад +2

      hey, I had this exact same issue and you should try switching the anti aliasing above cmaa, turing off the "dynamic resolution" or whatever the dlss shit is, and upping your texture filtering to anisotropic 2-4x.

    • @walkergossett1345
      @walkergossett1345 9 месяцев назад +2

      also since ur also playing stretched id make sure ur display scaling properties on ur graphics card control panel/drivers is set correctly. cs2 reset all my settings on my Nvidia control panel so make sure to fiddle with whatever graphics settings u have there.

    • @tobyzk1730
      @tobyzk1730 9 месяцев назад +1

      you sure you dont have FSR enabled? it makes the game look horrible and doesnt even seem to help with performance like fsr should

  • @TotalTimoTime
    @TotalTimoTime 9 месяцев назад +9

    Hey Philip, please dont manually spin fans on PC components. They act as generators when spun manually and can fry your components. This goes extra for cleaning with compressed air during which you should hold the fan in place. Just be careful with your tech ❤

  • @Whiterabbit124
    @Whiterabbit124 9 месяцев назад +8

    I am now able to afford a PC a child-me would have probably fainted over, however, I want to emphasize how AMAZING these types of videos are. It is absolutely awesome that you do this kind of testing for those who have to make do with whatever they have (like I once had to). Not nearly enough youtubers and reviewers do this. Not everyone is running games on a streamer rig with all the latest gadgets.
    Thank you for your service, philip!

  • @jonathantaylor2584
    @jonathantaylor2584 9 месяцев назад +3

    Cat

  • @slendydie1267
    @slendydie1267 9 месяцев назад +2

    btw you have to remember a lot of cs players are from Eastern Europe and a lot are from Latin America. PC components are expensive in these parts of the world. So much so that it straight up says to one of my friends that he cant even start the game. Also "can be run" does not mean "playable" and "playable" means at least 60 with good visibility without freezing too often.

  • @Viritox
    @Viritox 9 месяцев назад +7

    Would be interesting to know how much difference the operating system makes. Could you maybe try a simple Linux install (something like Linux Mint, Fedora or Pop!_OS) with minimum spec and compare, since it's often said that Windows is bloated and Linux wastes way less resources if any.

    • @commisaryarreck3974
      @commisaryarreck3974 9 месяцев назад +5

      It's a fact Windows is bloated and only gets more bloated
      Hell it wastes power advertising to you, be it news, the weather or other irrelevant cr@p
      Depends on what Linux you use, but yeah. Wastes much less resources

    • @wclifton968gameplaystutorials
      @wclifton968gameplaystutorials 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@3kliksphilip With CSGO I tried both Windows via DirectX and KDE Neon (Ubuntu 22.04LTS) via OpenGL and saw a big performance improvement over OpenGL on Linux compared to DirectX on Windows 11 and I do not recall there being an option to use OpenGL on Windows, I am not sure if that is purely down to OS changes or just a change of API use from DirectX to OpenGL with driver differences between Windows & Ubuntu Linux.

    • @Kris-od3sj
      @Kris-od3sj 9 месяцев назад +1

      I've seen CS2 performance benchmarks on some subreddit, iirc the DX11 renderer performed better than the Vulkan renderer on Windows alone, the latter aligned with the Linux client's performance; suggesting that Source 2 is better optimized for DX11 than for Vulkan (if not being DX11-only, providing Vulkan through something like built-in DXVK).
      Nonetheless, @3kliksphilip I'd love to see a deep dive performance comparison between the two platforms and renderers.

  • @PixaXCVI
    @PixaXCVI 9 месяцев назад +5

    I demand more 3klikscat footage.

    • @Calamitous
      @Calamitous 9 месяцев назад +2

      Important distinction on 3-kliks-CAT, there

  • @lampionmancz
    @lampionmancz 9 месяцев назад +15

    This might legit be the first time I've ever heard Philip swear lol

    • @eX1st4132
      @eX1st4132 9 месяцев назад +1

      you haven't been around long then lol

    • @lampionmancz
      @lampionmancz 9 месяцев назад +4

      I've been watching all of his channels for over 7 years, but I still don't remember what other time Phillip swore lol

  • @EverythingPS5Pro
    @EverythingPS5Pro 9 месяцев назад +2

    You also get weirdly cold hands when gaming with mouse and keyboard?

  • @Ethanolic_
    @Ethanolic_ 9 месяцев назад +20

    I felt a huge, sudden shock when Phil said the GPU I'm currently still using was mid range at launch... Time flies by so quick, especially after 2020. And yet in 2020 I was still playing new games just fine? Granted though I have the 2GB overclocked-out-of-the-box edition (don't know how it's still kicking honestly). It's all such a haze. I still have only 8 gigs of RAM too, and it's starting to feel quite cramped here...

    • @Critical3rror
      @Critical3rror 9 месяцев назад +11

      2020 is almost 4 years ago and just after the launch of RTX and the push for higher graphical fidelity in games. its not a surprise that your GPU struggles. there is also the releases of the ps5 and new Xbox to consider as those consoles held the gaming industry back for so long

    • @Eingefallen
      @Eingefallen 9 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@Critical3rrorit's all going too fast man

    • @potatofuryy
      @potatofuryy 9 месяцев назад +5

      I just realized my graphics card is over 7 years old lol. Time flies

    • @marcowulliampopirers2216
      @marcowulliampopirers2216 8 месяцев назад

      I have an RX 580 and a 12 year old cpu and i play new games just fine at 60fps

  • @shayanakhavan6002
    @shayanakhavan6002 9 месяцев назад +3

    For some reason, I'm getting the same fps on a 8700k 1080TI. I think I would need to do a clean OS reinstallation

    • @bgtubber
      @bgtubber 9 месяцев назад +1

      I would also check if any hardware component is overheating.

  • @carbonatdcaffeine
    @carbonatdcaffeine 9 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Philip, is the caboosing track in this video a variation Steven made? Or is it just sped up?

  • @vishalbsws
    @vishalbsws 9 месяцев назад +3

    +1 for Linux and Vulkan.
    There aren't many tests on youtube using them.

  • @trashcleaner
    @trashcleaner 9 месяцев назад +2

    12:37
    Valve should patch Vulkan, it has the same stuttering issues while rendering the map as dx11 had with AMD GPUs when cs2 was "released"

  • @shane106
    @shane106 9 месяцев назад +5

    Good to see you're dressing the way you said you do in the winter months. Living frugal no matter your available means is always a fun experience, I hope your distant relative kliksphilip would make more videos like that.

  • @edragyz8596
    @edragyz8596 9 месяцев назад +1

    That CPU isn't really minimum spec, those cores are fast and modern while CS2 is asking for something more dated.

  • @dr.poptart
    @dr.poptart 9 месяцев назад +4

    I don't even play cs2 or csgo, I don't even have any clue about anything hardware related. I just love your videos they're really calming and well made, been watching your videos for years now and I love every single new video that comes out! keep it up!

  • @childmolester296
    @childmolester296 6 месяцев назад +2

    i fucking hate that they had to do this graphical update shit, i could barely play it at 25 fps then and now i cant even launch it, there should atleast be an option to make the graphics the same as the original

  • @marcowulliampopirers2216
    @marcowulliampopirers2216 8 месяцев назад +3

    Do kids nowadays really think 720p is unplayable?damn im getting old

    • @Tokenq
      @Tokenq 6 месяцев назад

      720p was great back in the Xbox 360 days but for PC nowadays, 1080 is minimum. But 1440p will problaly become standard in a few years

  • @aaakach
    @aaakach 9 месяцев назад +1

    my game keeps freezing (not responding) in task manager
    i dont know how to fix it
    should i change my gpu or cpu?
    its so frustrating

  • @EpicDonutDudeMemes
    @EpicDonutDudeMemes 9 месяцев назад +3

    Love the cat gameplay

  • @BringusStudios
    @BringusStudios 9 месяцев назад

    I recently ran CS2 on my PS4 that modded to run Linux. The game ran at like 60% speed. It's very strange.

  • @thefunbuns1
    @thefunbuns1 9 месяцев назад +5

    I would LOVE to see you do some tests on Linux vs Windows. I love linux but I do think there is a latency difference between linux and windows, at least on my PC, and I'd love to see that quantified.

  • @diogoamorim8885
    @diogoamorim8885 9 месяцев назад +1

    Using a fairly new CPU from Intel is the problem with this test. The game is a way to single Core to think that the threads can make a big Diference. Even the new thread reaper has problems playing cs2(bellow 60fps)

  • @Pdidit09
    @Pdidit09 9 месяцев назад +4

    Philip , thank you for providing us with such high quality content over the years . I've been obsessed with watching all your videos since the going low in "csgo" series and all your channels keep delivering . sincerely THANK YOU ❤

  • @blocky_luke
    @blocky_luke 6 месяцев назад +2

    Had a laptop what couldn't even run csgo at 30fps cant imagine getting it to play cs2

  • @Xilefian
    @Xilefian 9 месяцев назад +28

    Hardware threads refers to hyperthreading - and that really does use CPU hardware to achieve parallelism within a single core
    Multithreading is a programming concept, where you use many threads (potentially hundreds) to achieve something. CS2 almost certainly uses many threads, but ideally your CPU has 4 hardware threads across two cores to dedicate to the more busy threads

    • @dalmationblack
      @dalmationblack 9 месяцев назад +1

      thanks mr minecraft

    • @vibaj16
      @vibaj16 9 месяцев назад

      how does it achieve parallelism within a single core?

    • @Minecraftrok999
      @Minecraftrok999 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@vibaj16it's not "actual" parallelism, hyper threading basically means that you have 2 schedulers for that one CPU core taking advantage of any timeslots unallocated by the other scheduler.
      You won't have 2 tasks/processes running at the same time, but under the right circumstances you can run 20% more processes in the same time

    • @pesho9971
      @pesho9971 9 месяцев назад

      @@vibaj16 I think each core has an extra set of registers and instruction decoders(or execution units not sure) which allow more than one compute block to be used simultaneously. For example if a non hyper threaded core is currently doing an integer operation it cant use its FPU or other compute block until the integer operation is finished. But for a hyper-threaded core if the next instruction is a floating point type it can execute it in parallel with the integer one. In a way think of hyper-threading as a means for a better core utilization

    • @Xilefian
      @Xilefian 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@vibaj16 the idea is a core will have two schedulers processing two different instruction streams that use the same cache
      If one of the instruction streams stalls (accessing memory that is far away in cache or even RAM) then the other instructions stream can continue executing whilst the other is stalled
      There's some even lower level concepts, like when areas of the core go dark for one instruction stream the other can use it, so if one stream is doing a floating point calculation the other can do some integer math

  • @lausjay
    @lausjay 9 месяцев назад +31

    being a fan of 3kliksphilip is like playing cs2 on a 4 thread cpu with a radeon 260x

  • @sZejker_
    @sZejker_ 9 месяцев назад +1

    0:56 I think they left it when csgo had cs2 beta and both together needed a lot of space

  • @entity3329
    @entity3329 9 месяцев назад +4

    good job man! youre literally doing valve's job at this time, your testing will surely help the devs improve and optimize the game's experience on budget and low end pcs! cqnt imagine the time and money spent looking for those parts, keep it up!

  • @lagking1
    @lagking1 9 месяцев назад +1

    9:05 Amateur time philip you should check my queue time 😅 . I Tried to run cs2 but sadly it was to much for my 12 year laptop 😅

  • @jeffhyo1220
    @jeffhyo1220 9 месяцев назад +4

    phillip is really doing the middle finger to all the people who dislike caboosing

    • @proCaylak
      @proCaylak 9 месяцев назад +1

      what's up with caboosing? I've seen it being mentioned in previous videos, but I couldn't understand why it's become such a big deal.

    • @NEXUSsS11
      @NEXUSsS11 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@proCaylak on his (1)kliksphillip video about comments, Philip did notice how many people dislike the caboosing song as it gives people really strong hate or fear emotions, so Philip chooses that song for a funny/absurd parts of the video.

    • @proCaylak
      @proCaylak 9 месяцев назад

      @@NEXUSsS11 thank you very much for this explanation.

  • @majorchaos5000
    @majorchaos5000 9 месяцев назад +1

    if you think about it you could've saved about £100 by getting a refurbished 64gb steam deck for about £250 (probably cheaper on ebay), plus the dock thats about £300 in total. could make the case that building the pc opens the path to future upgrades but how much cheaper (and easier to get), its a no brainer

  • @dingo596
    @dingo596 9 месяцев назад +10

    I think this would be more interesting testing a selection of older hardware. Especially the i5-750 which it recommends which is from 2009 and has 4 cores.

    • @gaby232323
      @gaby232323 7 месяцев назад

      I5 3330 and GTX 1050 ti 8gb ram ddr3 freezes mid round even though I was having 60-120 fps when they added new updates I had around 50 fps on average especially on ancient

  • @pfannkuchengesicht42
    @pfannkuchengesicht42 9 месяцев назад +2

    I don't understand the discussion abou the threads. "Hardware Threads" does specify it very well and additional threads provided by HyperTheading are, as described by Intel themselves, logical/virtual. And virtual threads are by definition not hardware threads.

    • @Zolbat
      @Zolbat 9 месяцев назад

      I'm pretty sure these logical cores do require a little bit of hardware to work. Threads are basically always virtual, you can run a 16 thread application on a single core, it's about the cores and whether they're physical or virtual, and whether a thread can be assigned an actual physical core or a virtual one

  • @marleyperran9700
    @marleyperran9700 9 месяцев назад +3

    Better spec than m.ine and I’ll still be playing ☠️

  • @burger406
    @burger406 9 месяцев назад +2

    taking out my gpu bc of this video
    -burger40

  • @ubaft3135
    @ubaft3135 9 месяцев назад +3

    DDR5 has dual channel build-in each stick. So you could have bought two but used only one and still would get dual channel.

    • @7weco
      @7weco 9 месяцев назад

      Its not as good as "real dual channel" is. Its actually like strange hybrid rather than full blown dual channel

    • @crylune
      @crylune 7 месяцев назад

      Not true. You still need two DDR5 sticks.

  • @markhovscrch4050
    @markhovscrch4050 8 месяцев назад +1

    You know I am using RX 5700XT 8GB + 3200mhz of 4x8gb + R5 4600G somehow the CS2 Ultra settings hitting temp (repasted and cleaned) 82-84*c while on High settings was 78-82*c (stable mostly on 82*c). Adding before cleaning my GPU (oily and dusty board with melted cement of paste) ultra settings hits 87*c making my pc goes black screen and freeze everything. Shoutout to my uncle helping me removing the backplate while lecturing me about personal safety while walking travel.

  • @infinite7620
    @infinite7620 9 месяцев назад +10

    Yes it is 100% possible. I’m playing on an Alienware 15R2 laptop (8 years old). I7-6700hq (4cores-8threads) and an Nvidia Gtx 970m. Totally playable and never really dropping below my 144hz refresh rate. Usually about 180 FPS. But also my windows 11 is completely custom and stripped down. 54 process’ at startup, and about 70 process with steam, discord and game open. Never experience the laggy feeling that Philip is talking about. Always feeling snappy and real time responsiveness in cs2

    • @KrissFliss
      @KrissFliss 9 месяцев назад

      Do you call what we saw in the video "snappy and real time responsiveness" :/ BTW: I also doubt everybody have a custom and stripped down version of Windows 11.

    • @noobguy57
      @noobguy57 9 месяцев назад +5

      ​@KrissFliss you misread, nowhere in their comment did they say it was in the video. They said it was snappy and responsive due to their custom tweaking.

    • @АндрейКопылов-с1р
      @АндрейКопылов-с1р 9 месяцев назад

      I’m playing on a 2016 MacBook Pro, which has an I7-6820hq(4 cores 8 threads 2.7ghz base 3.6 turbo) and a Radeon pro 455(2 gig) and 16 gigs of 2133 ram. Been having a lot of microfreezing issues after switching from an ltsc version of windows(because cs2 stopped supporting it) can you tell where you got yours or which tool did you use to build it. Thanks

    • @GregorGorjan
      @GregorGorjan 9 месяцев назад

      nvidia GTX 970m has only 1 GB ram? i think it can use up to 4 or 6 GB ram.

    • @jeremyjhonson-0277
      @jeremyjhonson-0277 9 месяцев назад

      can u share ur settings man? i’m running a i7-11800H and RTX 3070 laptop, yet im only avg around 100-120 fps

  • @noobiemcgee5268
    @noobiemcgee5268 9 месяцев назад +1

    3kliks I had some issues with cs2 not shooting when pressing mouse 1 on occasion using a debian based linux distro. Can you show this error in your next video about cs2 on linux? It only happens in cs2 so I know it isn't an issue with hardware.

  • @kowa4ui_korm
    @kowa4ui_korm 9 месяцев назад +3

    My rig is almost 12.5 years old. In the past two years I have changed a gpu and bought an extra 16 gigs of ram.
    Here's the specs:
    Intel core i7 4770 3.4 GHz
    RTX 3060 12gb
    32gb ram 1666 MHz
    The game runs extremely bad at times, fps might drop down to 20, no matter what settings I choose. Its especially bad in deathmatch game mode, while in competitive fps swings around from 50 to130-150.
    😅

    • @HijackedAtomics
      @HijackedAtomics 9 месяцев назад

      u got like a 1 year gpu w a 10 yr old cpu in a cpu limited game
      silly boy
      sorry i am using my 10 year old youtube account lol

    • @MUSiCK9
      @MUSiCK9 9 месяцев назад

      Are you running on a SSD? Make sure both your OS and Games are on a SSD including your page files.

  • @DenizBT_
    @DenizBT_ 4 месяца назад +1

    I Upgraded my GPU from RX 580 to RTX 3060 Ti. But, because of my Ryzen 5 2600 I'm gettin max 120 FPS with drops (Sometimes it's stock on 60 fps and then goes up). Basicly DO NOT BUY A POWERFULL GPU IF YOUR CPU SUCKS!

  • @trauma._
    @trauma._ 9 месяцев назад +3

    what is he trying it with
    i have drops to 40fps average on a gtx1060 with lowest settings and its hardly playable

    • @elimiller9167
      @elimiller9167 9 месяцев назад

      Damn I thought I was the only one using that ancient ass GPU 💀 mf has been a trooper for 7 years now but I'm looking to retire it soon.

    • @_PsychoFish_
      @_PsychoFish_ 9 месяцев назад +2

      Then you definitely have some other issues with your system. A 1060 should easily get >100 fps.

    • @Baltic_Dude
      @Baltic_Dude 9 месяцев назад +1

      I'm using GTX 1660 and it hovers around 70 on lowest settings it's not competitive at all

    • @_PsychoFish_
      @_PsychoFish_ 9 месяцев назад

      @@Baltic_Dude Then how is this guy getting >100fps with a 1650, which is worse than the 1660?
      ruclips.net/video/FA47DkE0K_c/видео.html

  • @pangtundure
    @pangtundure 9 месяцев назад +2

    0:07 When u got that cute 🥺 thingies it's really hard to build any pc

  • @Bendwow
    @Bendwow 9 месяцев назад +4

    I''m still using most of my 2012 build (2500k, 8gb ram 1600mhz, 1060, no ssd) and I have over 100fps most of the time. I've been pretty surprised with how the game is somewhat playable with such an old build.

    • @TubeOfLaughes
      @TubeOfLaughes 9 месяцев назад

      I'm curious as to what settings you decided to settle on. Mine an old faithful build around that time as well and I want to calibrate it.

    • @Bendwow
      @Bendwow 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@TubeOfLaughes Sorry for the late reply, but 1280x960, all low settings except medium texture settings and 4-8x anisotropic filtering

  • @REDleaderOK2
    @REDleaderOK2 9 месяцев назад +1

    hi kliks! I think I have a problem with my cs2 I cant achive more than ~150/170fps with my 1660super I reinstaled cs2, Windows, Even I Back to W10 but nothing...
    I realized when I saw a Benchmark on youtube of a guy plaing at 300fps at my same in game settings! (1280x960 LOW)
    and I think is not My GPU cause I can play RDR2 normaly at ~50/70fps on Ultra settings (1080p-NO AA)
    annyways If you or someone try to help me those are my Build
    Ryzen 7 4750G
    16gb RAM (4x4)
    1660super
    SSD 240

  • @HampsterCS
    @HampsterCS 9 месяцев назад +2

    I have a 11400H and a GTX 1650 super. I get 55 fps on average ☠

    • @knipsi22
      @knipsi22 9 месяцев назад

      bruh I got 144 fps (limited) ez on a 1060.

  • @alexgryn85
    @alexgryn85 9 месяцев назад +1

    3:40 I remember when they introduced smokes way back in the day. And everyone on the server was shouting. NO SMOKE NO SMOKE! :D

  • @noributts8032
    @noributts8032 9 месяцев назад +2

    Fluffykins computer build supervisor

  • @iurilangmeira
    @iurilangmeira 9 месяцев назад +2

    what's up with the wall hacks

  • @Grick1337
    @Grick1337 9 месяцев назад +1

    @3kliksphilip my game becomes unresponsive every few rounds and i have to win+tab for new desktop to open the task manager and end cs2 processor to close the game, i found if i removed launch options the game would only blackscreen once a game (better than every few rounds) but this is driving me crazy cause i never have any other issues with any other games. i did a bios update, graphics card update, reinstalled cs2, reinstalled windows10, tried cs2 on another computer on the same network (no blackscreen freezing)
    specs: i3-4160, gtx 1050, ddr3 12gb, 512gb hdd.
    the game is playable its smooth i get an avg of 119 fps on 1920x1080p but my issue lies with the constant blackscreen freezes.

  • @user-ij8md2kc2v
    @user-ij8md2kc2v 9 месяцев назад +1

    ok, just for the sake of it, I'm one of the people that did experience the stuttering as well as constant crashes and freezes ever since cs2 launched, never had that in csgo.
    So, I used to have a pretty decent gaming setup but ended up selling it a few years ago as I just wasn't really utilizing it anymore, I still played csgo from time to time however and ended up getting my very old setup brought to life for that specific reason, it's basically the remains of an old alienware r51 r1, it has an old i7 3770k, an IEM gtx 660 1.5gb vram, and 16 gb of ram (ddr3 cause motherboard doesn't support better) and 250gb ssd.
    I know it's pretty pathetic specs nowadays but for my use it was very respectable, I played csgo from time to time in the weekends on it and got about 160fps on average, it wasn't as good as my 500+fps rig previously but I didn't feel too hindered by it.
    When cs2 dropped I expected a downgrade in performance, and that's fine, however I can confidently say now that it's just not "playable", I get 70fps on average which is fine, all low settings except for fsr that is disabled cause I can't stand the blurriness it brings. But the game feels so off, there's definetly more delay than in csgo, it stutters or plumets to 30fps randomly, and the worst of it is it sometimes just hard crashes the pc altogether.
    And yes I get it, clearly I need to upgrade the pc to keep enjoying the game from time to time, I just thought I would share my experience and specs with you so maybe you can finally find those dreaded renowned stutters you're looking for, as for me, I guess I'll return to cs:s for the time being 😅

  • @brokendoop
    @brokendoop 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm always reminded of PlanetSide 2 with videos like this and how that game that came out in 2012 would not be playable with these minimum specs for a game that came out in 2023.

  • @cheatoffchannel6320
    @cheatoffchannel6320 9 месяцев назад +1

    Minimum reqs. unplayable due to 1 second stutters when: you shoot, see explosions, smokes, when you breathe... Wtf is "amazing" with getting 60-90fps, but being unable to shoot when HE explodes on your screen.

  • @easton7978
    @easton7978 9 месяцев назад +1

    My friend plays on a surface pro, csgo he would get 30-60 fps. Cs2 he gets 12-20.

  • @iPuls3
    @iPuls3 5 месяцев назад +1

    Stuttering on CS2 only feels noticeable on a PC that could handle CSGO at 400+ consistently. At least in my experience.
    Hope that Valve gets around to fixing it.

  • @Zhevzh
    @Zhevzh 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm from Ukraine, I have a laptop that is about 10 years old, it can't even load steam properly, not saying anything about CS2. Maybe if u don't need those bad computer parts u can send them here so I could try running CS2 with 60 fps 😢

  • @XanderNiles
    @XanderNiles 9 месяцев назад +2

    I get the idea that Valve wanted since the release of CS2, to fully replace CSGO but they should have keep it as a separate game rather than switching to the beta depot of it so users with low-end PCs can still play the game in some sort of way.
    So, if people want to still want to play the game they either upgrade their rig or go back to play CS1.6 or CS Source. However, there's more options in the horizon like CS Classic Offensive and Legacy Strike so it's just a matter of time.

    • @perfectlyroundcircle
      @perfectlyroundcircle 9 месяцев назад +1

      100%. It's a shame more people are not bothered that CS:GO was replaced.

    • @AntiGrieferGames
      @AntiGrieferGames 9 месяцев назад

      Average overwatch moment.

  • @8-bitcentral31
    @8-bitcentral31 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is really good harware! I would like to see this on a pentium 4 or core 2 duo with a geforce 8400 and see it works! 12 gen intel is not low end in any way. Also the sudden frame drops are probally due to AMD's crappy driver support which it really sad. Some card that should still be perfectly useable are rendered useless which is why I only really go with intel cause I want to be able to use my PC for 10+ years.

  • @o74769
    @o74769 9 месяцев назад +1

    minimum spec Pc, are a waste of money, u never know when u will get screwed by valve again and then what? go for the next minimal spec? i would advise people getting a mid range PC with overhead upgrades, that would mean, they could upgrade to a better CPU or RAM in the future. a PC should last you 8-10 years.. not every year upgrade, unless u are very rich and stupid.

  • @ClaudioNoClip
    @ClaudioNoClip 9 месяцев назад +1

    Every single time when i'm booting CS2 i need to play quite a few matches of deathmatch or casual until my pc is simply frozen in CS2, and you could only reboot it, there's no other option. And it always happening at least twice...
    Otherwise it will block in competitive or premier and my mates are fuming already.