The Most Tragic Characters in Game of Thrones
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- The Most Tragic Characters from Game of Thrones / ASoIaF books
From Ned Stark to Jaime Lannister to more unfortunate ones who
lives an entire existence of misery....
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The most tragic characters are the readers. Some say they are still waiting for the Winds of Winter...
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June 2020 my ass
I have been suffering since 1999 and ya know what...I am almost over it :-(
Watching this, I actually realized how Brianne and Cersei are foils of one another. Both are women are wish they could fulfill men's roles and feel held back by their gender, Brianne wants to be a knight more than anything and is willing to die to live up to her noble, selfless values while Cersei wants to be just like her father and wants to follow in his footsteps as the heir that he never had. The difference between them, however, is two-fold, Brianne is seen as ugly while Cersei is seen as beautiful, but Brianne is kind, selfless, and humble while Cersei is vain, power-hungry, and cruel. Really makes me wonder just how their two stories might wind up intertwined considering how they're both important women in Jaime's life.
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Brilliant analysis. Something even more tragic about Brienne is her possible future. We know that Brienne is known as Brienne the Beauty, both as a mockery of her lack of beauty and as a nod to her very beautiful blue eyes - the only part of her that is beautiful. But we also meet another unattractive character in the story named Pretty Merris. And I feel like Pretty Merris - with her chopped off breasts, earless face, slit nose and scars crossing both her cheeks and bruised body - could be an eerie nod to what could happen to Brienne if she doesn't go home like Randyll Tarly suggested to her. War is brutal to warriors and for a female warrior in those times, even moreso🕵🏾♂️
Its a test of character no doubt.
A man burdened by hopeless romanticism, in everything he does.
Will he choose the easy, vain, beautifully hideous love? Or the difficult, humble, hideously beautiful love?
Its a test as old as time itself. GRRM has just found a grand Shakespearian way of unfolding it. Much like everything else for that matter.
Never thought about it that way. Great job and well played Ser!
That being said, they still refer to their gender in a different way. While Cersei is just insanely salty about not being a man (Even Jaime aknowledges that what Cersei loved about him was that he was a reflection of herself, as a male) Brienne seems to be less desperated about it.
Obviously she knows that thing would be easier if she was a male, but she also dreams of herself as a regular good looking noble lady.
Basically, if we were to rank female character about how ok they are being a woman, girls like Arianne, Catelyn or Even Asha would be 10 and Cersei would be 1, while Brienne would "only" be a 3 or 2
That one about Tysha actually loving Tyrion fucking crushed me, I'm in the second book and haven't got that far yet but I've seen the show, that was one of the saddest scenes in the first season and the fact that she actually loved him makes it ten times sadder
I'm jealous you are only on book 2. There is 100 times more emotion in the book
You've probably read them all by now, but if you haven't a word of a advice - don't watch those videos until you read all the books. There are so many things that weren't in the show and the videos may spoil some to you.
Elia Martell is the most tragic also the end that happened to her is the reason I want mountain to be tortured nor dead.
dhaval desai I have much respect for Elia Martell. She was very kind. I love kindhearted characters.. unfortunately, the kind people usually suffer in books and real life.
@@Lily_of_the_Forest Yeah... unfortunately Westeros is not the place for kind people...
And now a pretender will avenge her death when he marches on King's Landing after taking Storm's End.
Of course
Fuck Rhaegar and Lyanna
G filmer Martin is cruel for introducing this side story. I soooo wish the pretender was really baby Aegon. Dorn would have had a piece of their beloved Princess Elia back. Ugh! Martin, he tortures us so!
Hodor! No one ever thinks of Hodor. He was robbed of his entire existence by Bran.
His existence would have been shoveling shit at its best 😂
@@PoutingScout still an existence.
Catelyn Stark easily. Lost her father, her husband, thought she lost her youngest sons, lost her firstborn, believed her youngest daughter was killed, betrayed and had her neck sliced and had her body thrown into a river. Now her existence is trapped inside a zombie that only thrives off revenge and hate. Let her rest Martin, let her rest peacefully
Legitimately gets me angry at how fucking unfair the story goes, with the Lannister’s being rewarded over and over for cruelty and idiotic brutality whilst our heroes are held at a razor wire constantly needing to be careful not to fall into pit falls which ultimately captures them
That's not how Martin works, but who knows.
@@jbkeown1 to be fair, Tywins dead,. Cersei is getting surrounded by enemies and is held prisoner by the faith, Jaime lost his hand, and Tyrion got kicked out of Westeros
Don’t forget originally she was supposed to marry Brandon who was killed
Also lysa kind of betrayed her i can imagine that not being nice
How can there not be any mention of princess Shiren? She is just a kid who suffered from greyscale, has no friends but Patchface, she has Stannis fucking Baratheon as her father and she might or not have been burned at the stake so that her father would win a battle he proceeded to lose.
I can't be the only one that thinks that is a tragic backstory.
He seems to be talking about book characters and Shireen is not dead in the books.
Sheerine not dead in book tho
@@josiahdavistv1216 she’s definitely Rhollor fry in TWOW , but her mother will kill her because she is a fanatic
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Likely while Stannis is gone. I just can't see him of all people allow something like that..
@@aravinds3846 Most likely sadly. With Davos looking for Rikon, and Stannis about to battle the freys she has nobody to protect her. And with Jon dying, she’s probably going to be sacrificed to bring him back. The sad thing is Stannis is going to take back winterfell and he’ll probably find out what happened afterwards when he sends for his family to be brought to winterfell.
The small folk are the most tragic by far.
You know, I've been wondering. Should Lady Stoneheart be told that Jon isn't Ned's child, but Lyanna's? That all her hate for the boy kinda helped his cover. That Ned, for all his faults, had lied to his wife to protect his Nephew?
I think Lady Stoneheart is inevitably going to find out, yes. Maybe it'll bring a stirring of the old Cat back. I just hope the Blackfish never ends up encountering her, I think that'd break my heart.
What really blew my mind about Catelyn was the realization that she could have turned Robb into the next Tywin and prevented everything that occurred after the North rose, if only she had called Robb out in front of his Lords, as she had intended. Instead she did not want his bannermen to "mock him in their cups", so she stayed silent. Look what an embarrassing father helped Tywin accomplish...
R+L=J isn't confirmed in the books and there's the whole situation with Varys and Young Griff who could end up being the real son or a blackfyre pretender. Plus there's the fact that Jon is dead in the books, so.
I hope stoneheart and Howland meet in WW bc she might aid jon and spare Brienne and podrick
This video was great! I think Elia Martell is the most tragic. She had to witness her 2 kids die and then her own murder. All that after she had been betrayed but the man she loved and all the dangerous complications she had with her 2 pregnancies and the rough births she endured. Such a sad storyline. But great video!
May Rhaegar and Gregor burn in seven hells for what they did to Elia!😤😡🤬
Gregor also raped Elia before killing her.
@@PedroLucas-mg5je and also lyanna stark too
Jeyne pool aswell
@@PedroLucas-mg5je even the mad king sent away his pregnant wife and his son when the rebels came for him. Rhaegar straight up didn't care about his family, he was dumb and careless enough to leave them with his mad father
I really hope for a little "Happy-Ending" where Catelyn finds out that both of her daughters and youngest sons are still alive. After that she may die because her Zombie status is not worth living for. But please George, let her know before that not all of her children are killed.
I dont remember too much about it now, but i think since her revival, she cares more about revenge than about her daugthers.
Like, i think she knows 'arya' is at winterfel marrying ramsey bolton but rather than going there to help, sje prefers to keep hanging people with her group of outlaws.
I remember hearing something like that in some video but i cant remember wich video or from who
@@macer9054 I think it was sansa who married ramsey, not arya
@@pinkidebbarma980 In the books, the Lannisters give Jeyne Poole (Sansa's friend in Series/Book 1) to the Boltons, and tell everyone that it is Arya (to give legitimacy). Sansa (as of yet) is still doing stuff in the Vale in the books
As stephen says, it is 'arya' in the books. I dont mention the series version with sansa because lady stoneheart isnt there to begin with
@@macer9054 What we hear about her in the books is from the people around her or third parties. She seems cold and revengeful... not much has been given towards her actively looking for her kids anymore. Perhaps the part she lost in her death was her empathy? perhaps she lost more then we think due to the time she spent dead.
Anyway the Cat we knew and loved (or loathed, I never liked her as she seemed to fixated at the wrong things) is gone, what is left is "lady stoneheart".
I know Theon was hated because of the decisions he made. But between being cast aside by his father, overshadowed by his sister, and most of all his treatment and loss of identity by the hands of Ramsay Bolton makes him the most tragic character in my mind.
Theon your a good man, Thank you.....suddenly dusty in here.
*reek*
Well yes, but actually no. What you are referring to is tragic, but it's not a backstory - it's his current story.
In mine's too, he was also mistreated by Stannis and a hostage by Eddard.
Theon's life was aweful. Poor kid never had a chance. Loses all but one sibling at a young age, is a hostage through his childhood, ridiculed by his father and sister upon his return, does his best to be a true Ironborn (kills "the Stark boys" and invades Winterfell) to be abandoned by his men, and then to top it all he is turned into Reek by Ramsey Bolton and made to keep Jayne Poole as Ramsey's bride...... I mean he did have an arrogant streak for a bit, but when you have nothing but your pride to defend yourself, you can build a pretty big ego...
In the books, Lollys Stokeworth is the most tragic character to me. She’s spent her life being made fun of for being “simple” and during the riot in King’s Landing, she’s raped by 50 men then becomes pregnant and has severe PTSD. She’s a minor character but definitely one of the saddest. Another tragic character to me is Tysha, Tyrion’s first wife. I feel so awful for this young girl who actually loved Tyrion and then is seemingly betrayed by him and is raped by Tywin’s men as well as by Tyrion. Her story is so tragic to the point that I almost wish she had been using Tyrion the way that Tywin thought (even though I doubt it since of course Tywin would never be able to believe someone could love his youngest son just the way he is with no ulterior motives) because I can’t even begin to fathom how awful it was for her if she truly loved Tyrion and not his money.
What about Gilly and her sisters.
Boom. Bang on answer. Being raped by ur father/husband then watching the same happen to ur sisters, mothers, aunts and daughters. While knowing all sons, brothers and uncles are being sacrificed to the scariest fuckers in the world. Easily one of the top 3, fucked up tragic lives.
Right?!
The most unfortunate characters are the plebeians that are mostly off-screen. Everything that happened to the high-born, happened to the poor - but ten times worse.
Nah fuck them. They idolize humans too much
People don’t talk enough about how terrible it has to have been to be a normal person born in kings landing especially while Joffrey was king
Rhaegar didn't deserve Elia. She should have married someone like Ned. Elia and her Children deserved better. Damn I hate Rhaegar.
Yeah I he more or less is responsible for her rape and murder as well as his childrens.
She should have married Lord hightower. If there a Velaryon had a lady then the prince would haved wed but then again she may end in tragic because of the prince's actions
THANK YOU!!! The guy was a straight up “F**kb*y...A sickly Wife and kids at home but you want to run away with a Sidepiece?!?
LORD SNOW Rhaegar was a hoe!
He was a selfish ass
Varys is a pretty tragic character to me, but at least he turned it around
Only to get caught committing treason in the least Varys-like way possible smdh.
@@calebwinfield1403 Thanks to Dumb and Dumber for the demise of GoT. Diehard fan of the books, and after seeing *"Sir Bariston the Bold"* getting killed by the *Sons of Harpy's* in season 6 is where the downfall of this show started imo.
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Littlefinger too - in his past, when he was littlefinger. The little guy who can't fight well in a world where physical fighting is a much bigger part of life than it is to us today. Even today the small guy is unlucky despite it not mattering anymore, there's still a residual disliking to small men. So imagine what it must be like if that disliking is much bigger.
He makes up for it or overcomes it and does very very well for himself when it comes to power and influence.
But still, the woman he's always loved never loves him, and is married to a man she does love. So he has that too, which is very mildly tragic i guess.
@@JefeDeJefes8484 between the massive wait for Winds of Winter and how dirty they did the books via the show I wonder if I'll ever pick up the remaining books. George did great with the world building and lore so ASOIAF will always have a soft spot in my heart while I read those growing up, just sort of burnt out at the idea of picking up the last two books (if they ever come out) and they suck as much as the show lol.
Elia Martell 😭.
Anyone who has to deal with Ramsey is a tragic character.
Even Ramsey himself is tragic. Not like that changed anything.
Tysha a character that everyone forgets and ashara dayne too
What happened to them?
@@miaya.micronis google it they just sad story but side characters that does serve a role in prequel
@@miaya.micronis Tyrion married Tysha who was a commoner. When Tywin found out he made Jamie lie and tell Tyrion that Tysa was a whore, then he made a fuck ton of Lannister soldiers rape Tysha and pay her a copper, he made Tyrion go last and pay her a gold piece. This is why Tyrion killed Tywin. As with Ashara Dayne, she was the sister to the sword of morning, Arthur Dayne. It is said that she had Brandon Starks child. The child died (or still born I don't remember which), she also died and she threw herself off a tower
@@miaya.micronis Tysha was Tyrions first wife and was gang raped by Tywins men and Tyrion. Her fate after that is unclear.
Ashara Dayne was Sir Arthur Daynes sister. It is rumoured that either Brandon or Ned Stark impregnated her at the tournament at Harrenhall. But of course Brandon got killed by the mad King and Ned went on to marry Catlyn. After "Ned" kills her brother, he brings her his sword and its believed that her grief over her brother being killed, either her lover being killed or her lover marrying another woman and a stillbirth led to her killing herself by throwing herself off a cliff.
I go back and forth on Ned. Protecting Jon? All respect. His choices regarding Cersei and the succession? Dumb as a box of rocks. He failed to protect his family, and he failed to protect the realm. He weighed his honor against their safety and chose his honor. Holy shit, dude. I mean...I like Ned, I understand why he did what he did, and he's a badass fo sho. But jeebus man...
I wonder why everyone forgets about Sansa telling Cersei all about Ned's plans.
@@abrarbw Ned literally told Cersei himself what he was going to do Sansa just said her father wanted to leave should she have done that no but its not like it would have changed the outcome if she didn't. NED himself told her everything hold your male favourites accountable its coming off sexist.
Ned to me is the in-world example of why people like Stannis don't work. Besides the fact that I completely see him masking his greed and climb behind slogans like "justice", justice simply wouldn't have the good outcomes that people would want.
@@abrarbw Because I'm not sure if that little part was in the show. The books, yeah, Sansa played a critical role in Ned's downfall, but he was still an idiot for telling Cersei to begin with.
To be fair, I’m pretty sure that’s at least partially because of his experiences in Robert’s Rebellion. He saw a woman raped and murdered, with both her children slaughtered like pigs, while Robert applauded the death of “dragon spawn.” He had the chance to prevent something very similar from happening again, and he took it. Was it smart? Absolutely not. But decisions influenced by trauma rarely are.
whycreate Thank you I needed this during this crazy time. I appreciate your great content on GoT.
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@@whycreate Appreciate it. Really do with all your hard, thorough work. We fans appreciate that.
@@whycreate you forgot ashara dayne
ELIA MARTELL IS THE MOST TRAGIC ONE.
Jayne Pool? She had it pretty rough.
@LagiNaLangAko23 Exactly.
Jeyne
Jeyne, Jeyne, it rhymes with pain
She is in the video
@@gerardjagroo ?
Jeyne Poole, Theon and Arya in my opinion. Especially Arya. Just look how dark her heart has become and she is just 12... And she killed 8 people... Seriously when I read her chapter I just want to cry. "There is a hole where my heart should be."
And Jeyne's and Theon's abuse omg. Their mental health is ruined forever. Ramsay Bolton is the worst guy we got to meet through someone's PoV in the Seven Kingdoms. I cannot even imagine what they have seen besides what is mentioned...
Let's hope that, at least Arya, gets a happy ending, marries someone out of love and finds peace and I wish the same for Sansa, Bran, Jon (I'm 100% certain he'll be ressurrected) and Rickon!
Erm it's a book mate. Nothing else happened, apart from what was written 😁😁😁
HBO handled the Hodor reveal so well I felt like I was reading it. Tragically it was among the final great moments before d&d said fuck it and torpedoed the series.
Elia Martell for sure ❤️
Rhaegar didn't deserve Elia Martell
Her childrens and layer her brother. I think if she had wed someone else instead of the prince, the story would still be the same the rebellion and the fall of the dynasty
Elia Martell was so beautiful, it's so sad what happened to her. I hope we get to see the trinity of Queen Raella Targaryen, Elia Martell, and Joanna Lannister in any future productions. They were all three best friends even though Elia and Joanna waited on their queen.
How do u know that? We never got to see her in the show. She was raped and butchered by the mountain before the series ever starts.
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1. D&D
2. Dany’s “break the wheel” and “I did not come to be queen of the ashes” to “HaHa DrAgOn MaKe CiTy Go BoOm.”
3. Jon Snow: tons of buildup no payoff.
4. The people who had the misfortune of watching all 8 seasons and desperately praying that HBO does a season 9 and have S8 be a dream of Bran’s or GRRM saves it
#2 made me really lol
You mean the last 3 seasons right?
Grrm can't save it . He's the one that messed it up
5. The actors who literally developed mental health issues and or alcohol problems, because the characters they had loved and built up so much meant to them, and then series 8 completely annihilates all of them.
I'm not exaggerating btw, if you're curious. Both the actors for Jon Snow and Daenerys developed issues coping with the ending for their characters. Kit Harington admitted himself to rehab so as to get his drinking under control, and Emilia Clarke also developed issues with depression and alcoholism following the ending for her character.
I'm under the impression that pycelle was killing older infants as to ensure that rhaegar couldn't be disinherited if he were to be married to Cersei
You mean Aerys the “Mad King”’ children? Well if so that is a good theory and is supported by the fact how much of a Lannister Rat Pycelle is but there’s a counterargument to this and it that Pycelle could’ve change Aerys’s mind about Tywin when the two were hating each other and Pycelle did nothing there and let the 7 kingdoms go to ruins and let the friendship weaken and that led to Aerys declining Tywin’s offer to marry Cersei to Rhaegar and if you say Pycelle doesn’t have influence but we have seen he really does have influence as a Grand Maester.
Everyone even no matter what position or shown loyalty, there is always betrayal in people’s behind their clothes.
Errr?? Say what now???
wdym?
Tormund losing almost all his son's
Lady of High heart
I think that Queen Rhaella and Queen Naerys could easily be on this list. Both were forced to marry monsters and were practically bred to death
Ned's story was sad but at least he didn't live to see his children die on top of his siblings and parents as Catelyn did. She was literally betrayed by so many more that she genuinely loved like Little Finger and her sister. Then to think all her children died and watch Robb die and then become a Zombie Martin did her so dirty. I think Ellia got off a little easier and that's saying something.
What do you mean by "Ellia got off a little easier". She watched her beloved children died and got raped by the murderer. I think that might be the worst death imaginable to a mother
elia had it way worse that cat. cat actually deserves everything for starting the damn war of the five kings.
WTF? What happened to Elia is worse
Wtf ? Elia was was betrayed by her husband imprisoned by her father in law and she had to pay for her husband’s actions seeing her babes been brutally murdered before been raped and murdered by the same killer ! She’s one of the few characters in ASOIAF that have done nothing to deserve her fate on the other hand catelyn stark literally started the war of the five kings by abducting Tyrion !
@@shaman1v120 Alot of character is ASOIF have been raped. Elia just had both things at the same time and it really al happened in one day. Cat suffered for a long time things would just get worse and worse until she died too. Just to come back as a zombie. Its all personal opinion that's just mine.
I'd rather be a dwarf born into the lannisters or any noble family over being born a typical commoner- hell I bet most would
Not if Tywin was my father
Yeah, people bag on Cat a *lot*
Some of its justified, though you pointed out very, very well that she went through a lot of really horrifying shit.
I agree
Helaena Targaryen, Aegon II's queen, who was forced to choose between her two sons by two assassins. The one she named was spared and the other killed right in front of her. Then the son who was spared was killed while they attempted to sneak him out of King's Landing. She then committed suicide and threw herself off the Red Keep, just like her daughter who married Aegon III would do.
I still wonder why lyana stark fell for reagar while she knew he was a married man in the show.
If R+L=J becomes Canon by the 2nd time in the books, let's hope that this is explained better!
Reek is the most tragic one for me.
Og Reek? Never
person of no importance wdym og reek?
Do you mean the one who was friends with Ramsay when he was young?
@@thedeadnightking9975 yeah like he was rapist and deranged af so you have to mean Reek as Theon?
person of no importance especially as he was in the show, ramsay broke him
person of no importance yeah but I thought you meant the OG Reek that was friends with Ramsay.
*Confusion LVL 100*
Jorah is really pathetic but I can’t help but love him.
I think Cercei is a super tragic character. The only ones she loves are her children, and she got a prophecy at ten years old that she would outlive them all.
I think this is about the books not the show Cersei doesn’t love her children in the books
Every actor who had to act their character's destruction in the last few seasons.
Finally man. Been checking your channel everyday. Best asoiaf lore on youtube
When you mentioned Aegon III, his storyline heavilly echoes Bran's storyline due to the fact that they both wear the moniker "The Broken", and both characters survived tragedies and saw their close family members dying in war, to which I mentioned this several times that GRRM gave us his ending in the form of the Fire&Blood book, more preciselly The Dying of the Dragons.
Sandor Clegane? Disfigured for life by his own brother just to have his dad brush it off as "the bedding caught fire". The Hound is one of the very few characters in the series to acknowledge the hypocrisy of knighthood; mostly brutish, violent men, more interested in self-preservation than protecting people.
He can see it's more than "a few bad apples". The whole orchard is rotten.
Jeyne Poole for me. Her father was killed. Then she had to work in Littlefinger’s brothels, then Ramsay, and even after Theon rescued her, she gets frostbite and broken ribs. Give her a fucking break George!
Thank you, Ser ! Thank you very much for your analysis!
Alot of the characters that already have sad or tragic storylines, get even worse when you put them at their book ages. That conversation between Dany and Jorah happens when she's 15 or 16. Arya is just shy of 11 when she enters Bravos. John is 16 when he's betrayed by the Night's Watch. Tyrion and Tysha were 14!!!!!! 14 years old and they both had to live through and move on from that.....
And Tommen was only 8 at Tywin's funeral
Who should make the list:
Merret Fray: Every westerosi lord looks down on frays, and every fray looks down on Merret.Easily the unluckiest man alive who got hit by a mace in the head when he was young, causing him non-ending suffering.Dies pathetic.
Gregor Clegane: 8'5 giant who suffers constant excruciating headaches,gets poisoned but tanks it for months because of his size until they turn him into a frankenstein type of thing.He might be a monster but his giantism caused his violent behaviour and its the quality that got tywins attention.
Theon Greyjoy: Did awful things,betrayed robb BUT his punishment in the books is so bad that you can only feel sorry for him.Ramsey stripped his skin and sent it everywhere on westeros,cut his manhood, cut his fingers,broke his teeth and took away his name and identity, he became another person.
While Jorah and Brienne are tragic(every character kinda is,even Mace Tyrell) i dont think that they should make the list of the most tragic.Glad you put Viserys thought,the show wouldnt give him a pov,at age 8 he had to go through insane hardship to survive and his need for redemption made him into that shithead.
Ned died because of Sean Bean
What about the Hound his a tragic character too?
Extremely
Adam Velaryon is my favorite tragedy.
Loyal
Thank you man, I always love it when someone drop anything to do with Game of Thrones
"Grew up to be one of the most punchable characters"
Thanks now my coffee is spilt on the table 🤣
What good Targaryen traits did Jon inherit.
Jon was more a Stark than a Targaryen because being raised as a Stark bastard is very affective and blood doesn’t always change your personality.
Action oriented, fierce, has a connection to dragons and rode one himself, inner vitality, will to live, passionate, some form of mystical power (he did come back to life and in the books is a sort of warg) brave and a natural leader
@@Ismail-kv3ex warg is more from lyanna though
@@Ismail-kv3ex very few targerians have these traits, most are lunatic incestuous violent tyrants
I appreciate these videos, but man, thinking back to GoT has been so soured from those final two seasons. I appreciate how deep the writing and episodes were prior to how the show ended..
To be fair it was only the last season that was BAAAAD.
Whycreate: dwarves in GoT have to stay on everyone's good side
Jogos nhai: we wipe out entire race of giant we no need good side
I cant think of many characters that don't have tragic backgrounds
ok I have the best idea for the next video
1. You need to find out and tell us what Podrick did to those girls who didn't take his money. this is the biggest conspiracy in Game of Thrones. How did he do it? we need details
2. finish the Tyrion's brothel joke
I always think it's a little stupid that Ned didn't tell Cait about Jon not being a bastard.
If only he knew the truth about the Nights Watch everyone there had a life before they ended up there so obviously with that kind of dilemma of factionalism is going to be a thing
I think Ned and Catlyn were st least happy for a good few years together. Lysa Aeryn had an unrequited obsessive live for Little finger then had several children die young so she desperately protected the one who survived until her death. That's tragic in a lot of ways. But I think one of the most extreme is the book character of Lollys who is mentally impaired, raped by a mob then married iff to Bron - no one seems to care about her at all except Tyrion. I agree about giving The Unsullied top spot on this list
Thank you for this. I see a lot of people railing on Lysa for not helping Cat, but that's because we're looking at Lysa through King Robb's eyes when she doesn't send reinforcements. Or through Cat's eyes, when she's holding court with her son and deciding whether Tyrion should live or die. But let's look at her from the outside - a young girl in love with a man below her station, a boy who grew up with them. But when the time came for her sister to marry her betrothed the boy Lysa loved nearly died challenging him to a duel. Then there's all that talk of tansy-tea on Hoster' Tully's deathbed, implying that Lysa got knocked-up by Littlefinger and Lord Tully made her get rid of it before marrying her off to an old man in some far away land.
Then bring on the miscarriages, the stresses of living in King's Landing on someone who is clearly fragile mentally and emotionally, Petyr returning to her in secret and convincing her to poison her husband in order to save her son being sent off as a ward - to Casterly Rock, Winterfell or Dragonstone. Fleeing "for her life" with her child, surrounded by men whispering sweet nothings in order to sit in her husband's seat and (effectively) unseat her son. Then her sister shows up with a Lannister captive and leaves with their uncle, perhaps the one man she might trust in such a situation.
I hate her as a character, but damn if she didn't have it rough.
"That's rough buddy"
idk if this gets personal but Jenny of Oldstone's story hits me the most, because it's exactly the story of a friend of mine. His fiancee was killed in a traffic accident 2 weeks before their wedding and he just snapped. It's truly gutwrenching to see a friend getting sucked into insanity like that, and he never really recover since
I feel really bad for him something like that happening deserves noone ever and also for you since you have to see how your friends sanity dwindles. I hope that one day he can recover and it might get better. Couldnt find the words to express my thoughts perfectly but I wish your friend and you the best!
Remember when everyone thought Jon dead forever
Julian Price simpler times lol. I said back then he should of stayed dead and I’ll stand by it. Show went to shit once he came back. I don’t like it to often when characters come back from the dead. Unless its Mortal Kombat or something because ya know its jusr kinda over the top and goofy
In the HBO series no one caused themselves more harm than Catelyn Stark.
She caused her entire family nothing but pain, betrayal and death
Here is a list of some of her more notable mistakes 1)taking Tyrion Lannister hostage
2) telling Ned he could trust little finger
3)setting Jamie Lannister free
4) she knew exactly how lord Frey was but still let Rob walk into a trap
5) not advising Rob who was around 15 not to accept kingship of the North till after winning the war and placing the entire Lannisters lineage on spikes.
In others taking a page out of Tywin's playbook
I'm talking some Rains Of Castamere type shit
Let loose on all Lannisters
The North allying with the Baratheons means the troops home by Christmas
THE MAIN REASONS FOR NED'S DEATH
1) Catelyn taking Tyrion Lannister prisoner
2) trusting littlefinger
3) Robert Baratheon death
4) Ned's loyalty to his family, mainly to Catelyn
In the first 3 years she was actually the main villain to what most would consider the good guys
Plus just destroying the family created up North wasn't enough for such a high achiever as Catelyn
She was also in her spare time able to take out her ancestral house
And nearly wipe all the Tullys from existence
It would seem impossible for a mortal person to accomplish so much in one life time
The night king was actually waiting for Catelyn death before invading the south
People don't live as long as the night king with out the ability to spot real danger
What he saw made the ice in his veins to grow even colder
That if he and his host was to encounter Catelyn they would not survive 5 minutes
against a real villain such as Catelyn
Even in her last seconds amongst the living she slit some poor kid's throat
Wow I love how in depth and sympathetic you were to some of these characters! People usually avoid feeling any empathy or understanding for Catelyn
I don't blame them for it!
Nice video, but King Stannis Baratheon has also tragic backstory
Eh his backstory isn't that tragic. He saw his parents drown and then Robert gave Storms end to Renly. The parents thing is tragic but it does weigh in a lot compared to the rest
soiaf where the songs are full of pain and suffering but you still listen to it because it helps elevate the pain and suffering from your life funny how the human works
Love your dreamy voice
When Catelyn says the most tragic creature is an ugly woman I thought she meant in the context of society bc women are meant to be beautiful and fragile and Briene is neither I didn’t actually think that’s what she thought bc she thought her brother was stupid for just wanting a pretty wife telling him someone with a strong heart is more important
But catalyn had made so many poor decisions that led to the demise of her family
Or the Daughter of the Aenys. She lost her brother/husband at a young age had to deal with her insane uncle then got passed over as ruler lost her daughter and lost all her friends after her second husband poisoned them all after she belittled him and whatnot. Then her lover Alyssia Fairwind stole her dragon eggs and sold them to travel the world all the while she was never really wanted anywhere
Rhaena was Aenys' daughter not Aegon's but yeah her life was tragic too
A character named Aenys has to be the most tragic character by default, considering how most people say Anus anyways because they cannot properly pronounce the Y in the English Languague.
I never understood how Cat didn’t get the clue about John. He gave her enough “hints.”
Viserys and Daenerys, Catelyn, Ned, Sansa, Tyrion, Jayne Pool, Elia, Rhaella
Jorah landed a gold miner. She must've had that Valyrian good good
How about Stannis? Dude is so conflicted throughout the whole series.
Great video! Making the fan favorite characters more likable & the Tysha confession are a few of the greatest failures of the show.
Wow. I absolutely love your channel. I'm binging your videos and you made me go out and buy the 1st book. Now I have to read it.. Amazing videos.
Robb was the one of the most tragic for me having his unborn child killed in front of him and his wife aswell
Tragic character: Hot Pie.
What Jon says about the whole is how I feel about adulthood like you all knew what this was and didn’t tell me!!
Robb is the most tragic if we are going by the definition of a tragic hero
Joff is pretty tragic too
Jamie should have scene like Tyrion, reminding everyone who the FUCK THE MAD KING WAS.
THANK YOU For this!!! 👍👍
Tyrion's life being... **UNFORTUNATE** yo! Understatement of the decade
Elia Martell say her name
As kingdoms go, they go. But winters last the longest tho. They are terrible, they are slow,
But as far as kingdoms go, they are wont to stay, but always go, but winter holds fast to its
ancient keeps, it does not weary, it does not sleep. And when such kings as rise to think to
plot its slumber, as kingdoms go, they go to slumber.
Most tragic ones are those fans who were still faithful of the series (prior season 8) and hoped that the show would end in a satisfying way.
Ned Stark: Dad and big Brother executed, Sister died in child birth, had to raise Jon Snow as his bastard straining the relationship with Catelyn and beheaded unjustly not long after old friend and ally King Robert's death.
Tyrion Lannister: Born a dwarf, killed mother when born and hated by his sister Cersei & his father Tywin for both reasons. Ended up losing entire family including beloved Brother Jaime, killed his father after lifetime of mistreatment and being sentenced to death, put faith in Daenerys only for her to become mad like her father and burn King's Landing to the ground and lost many people he cared about along his journey. Generally unloved, mocked and derided with the exception of a few people.
Sandor Clegane: Burnt by brother for playing with his toy, permanently scarred and scared of fire, treated with disrespect by his superiors, lives a loveless, bitter and twisted existence, picks up many injuries on his travels, loses the few people who try to help him and dies falling into flames getting revenge on his brother who he hates and blames for his miserable life.
Imagine us season 8 of the show went like this
Jaime and Brienne are defending bran. Brienne gets disarmed and impaled with her own sword. We then cut to a younger Jaime kneeling, and we hear “in the name of the warrior I charge you to be brave” Jaime kills the white walker that stabbed Brienne, and after grieving, pulls the blade from her chest, but as he pulls it out, it flames. Back to the scene of Jaime being knighted. “Do you swear to defend the innocent and the helpless, in the name of the seven?” ‘I do.’
The night king makes his entrance, staring down Jaime. Jaime looks at him and chuckles bitterly. “Do you know what they call me?” And as they walk toward one another we hear a collective sound of “king slayer” that we’ve heard throughout the show. Jaime strikes and the Night king is surprised, but quickly raises his blade of ice. Their fight is a blur of orange and blue, both moving faster than the eye can see. Jaime moves fast, faster than should be possible for a human, and the Night king realizes this won’t be an easy fight. Jaime falters for a hair of a second and the night king takes the opportunity to attack, wounding Jaime. Jaime falls to one knee, struggling to catch his breath. As the night king prepares to finish him bran glances at Jaime, and time seems to slow. He lunges at the Night king and the flame on his sword grows hotter, so hot that the blade begins to melt. Jaime plunges Oathkeeper into the night King’s chest and there is no sound. No scream of agony. The night king looks at Jaime with shock, before beginning shatter. Jaime pulls whats left of the blade from the creature and watches as the night king crumbles. Eventually all that is left are splinters of ice, with a shard of dragon glass sitting amongst the remains.
I love the epicness of that but having only Jaime do it wouldn't be interesting. I agree with Brienne's death and the rest. After Jaime is wounded Jon,Theon, Grey worm and co. come to his aid. They fight him altogether and Theon manages to wound the NK but gets stabbed. Bran comes to him in the phorm of a crow and says he forgives him. Theon closes his eyes and dies. Jon manages to break NK's sword but he keeps on fighting with his fist's alone . He seems like he is going to win but suddenly Arya stabs him the way she did in the show. But he doesn't vanish yet. Greyworm stabs him, then Jaime and then whoever else is there. NK is on his knees with the swords and spears of the main fighters stabbed to him. Jon then gets up and grabs his sword. And he walks towards their position. The NK raises his hands reviving the dead for one last time and then Jon strikes him down and NK vanishes.
Love the Unsullied, can't wait to see what GRRM has in store for them
I love your content, keep up the good work my dude.
Great video!
I mean in The Lord of the Rings Universe there is Extreme negative Cosmic Bad Karma that comes from oath-breaking. Jamie is one of those rare characters but then again he does have a great character he can't be celebrated for his actions nor can he be condemned by them at least not all of them. He's got his hand full of good acts and then he's got his metric fuckton of Bad Acts but if it were me if I'm making a gray character the good acts can never outnumber the bad nor the Bad acts outnumber the good they have to be in a constant equal. He swore to never take up arms against stark and Tully and yet showed up at riverrun with an army ready to take the castle by force. So even then he broke his Oath by technicality. The intent to take up arms should count as you taking up arms against them the same way attempted murder is a thing.
Yeah but at that point, after being mocked for most of your life for being an oath breaker, you know it doesn’t matter if you start keeping oaths anyway, people will always judge Jamie or think the worst of him no matter what he does. What’s the point of keeping oaths anymore.
The wording of an oath matters and here he has conflicting oaths.
Elia's fan art with Rhaenys and Aegon is so cute
I’m gna be honest I feel kinda bad for all these characters except for Jorah Mormont and Viscerys
I do think that Jon Snow had the most tragic story. 2 women he loved dead. He wanted to just be a Stark but ended up being a Targaryen and banished to the wall and the wildlings.
He knows nothing
He maybe a good man but he was not optimistic that was his low point
Great video but I agree that Richard's family is more interesting, especially Nathaniel Richards/iron lad / Kang the conqueror. Very confusing lol would love a video explaining him.
Cat what could be more tragic when she dies Ned is dead rob is dead sansa is hostage Arya is likely dead bran and Rickon are dead her fathers dead her brothers a hostage her homes are both destroyed or held by others her sister outright betrayed her she failed completely
And it was literally all her fault
She took Tyrion she trusted little finger she released Jaime
I’m sure there are more fckups aswell