Ventrac Review - "HOW NOT TO TEST A TRACTOR" because Franky is Nuts
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024
- The Ventrac 4500 is not a typical tractor but is it the best, worst or something in between ?!? Franky and I have a bet he thinks it can go through the semi frozen swamp with waist deep snow I think he is Nuts.... Whats your guess?
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I used a ventrax for snow removal in Canada. Amazing!!! It has a cab on it. No need for a guy on a shovel because it will fit on most commercial sidewalks
Frank is old school kind people like Frank are hard to find his a hard working old school dude
His type is the best to employ
He's the best 👍
Luca Signorello
Very true
I was thinkin the same thing,reminds me of my Dad.
I am a diesel mechanic and I have the milwaukee 1/2in 1400ft lbs impact and i absolutely love it...worth every penny spent
Good stuff 👍
BEWARE... Swamps hardly ever freeze solid, too much organics cooking below. had a dozer get stuck in an area like that, took a couple days to get out and a $1300 wrecker bill.
Thanks for sharing!
MY first was 420 onan Steiner in 1989, 2nd was a 430 Steiner in 1997, Kohler 24 repower to Kohler 30, sold to my son in 2016, replaced with Ventrac Kubota Diesel. I love them all and have done much personalization with attachments. You can't go wrong. Duals can be a problem in stressing the axles on uneven ground. I considered them, but spent time with the service department and was advised against them. No problem on dam banks vertically or on the hills of Northcentral Ohio. I've also spent time at the factory in Orrville. A quality operation. All attachments are shared. I also run a Kubota L4060 with grapple and other stuff. Great combo on significant acreage.
I see Franky and think " this dude has seen it all" I'd trust him. Hell, I'd be happy to have my own Franky.
Everyone needs a Franky
Stan I’m a retired farmer from Canada 🇨🇦 I had three farms. We ran pretty much all John Deere equipment. I don’t want to start an argument what colour is best. Green paint the quality was decent but more importantly or dealer was amazing. We had two and four wheel drive tractors and trucks and even a ww2 Jeep. It’s been my experience even with some very large high horsepower machines with large ag tires once’s you once you burry that machine down to the belly you are stuck. Doesn’t matter the colour or if your in snow or mud. We ran a lot of echo hand held power products on out fruit farms too and the eco line really seemed to preformed welland hold up well with our employees and the our small engine shop ag and turf power service gave us awsome support
Interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience! Will keep that in mind
no matter what the machine, if you bottom out on the frame, you're done.
Fires it up when it 8 out revs it up all the way as soon as it’s started
Stan.....dual wheels on the Ventrac are for slope mowing mainly. You actually get much better results in snow by taking the outside tires off & running it with only 4 tires!!!
Might do better with 4 if he doesn't sink in. Duals might keep him from getting buried if the snow is really 3 ft deep.
william davidson it depends. If it has the ground clearance to sink the tires down, singles would be better. We can see it doesn't though. Duals work like a sno-cat, and float...but they're not aggressive enough (or have enough surface area like tracks) to bite well enough.
Thanks for explaining it more than I did
Thanks for sharing!
Yesssss
I live very close by where Ventrac is made. They seem like a pretty good piece of equipment.
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Paul George GO WORK THERE!!!
Same i live in wooster I took a tour of their factory
@@Tangolikebat6 hey the factory in Worcester mass or you saying some where else
I use air impacts on the farm to take things apart. I would love to get my hands on a good battery powered impact to use.
Sounds like a crazy amazing tractor. Makes me want one.
Kinda is!
Hey brother...really appreciate what your doing...most if not all these tools you have demonstrated on this channel has made my decision much easier when buying keep it up look forward to much more
Awesome, that's the goal! Thanks for watching Mike 👍
Frank should use snow chains. I wanted them in oak park,Illinois, because our car got stuck in the snow after leaving and entering the garage.
that same wrench saved me just the other day. 100 miles from home destroyed 3 tires on my trailer and that impact tore them rims off like nothing
Easy, I just rented one and they go anywhere. I am buying one now after driving one for a few days using the rough cut attachment in a very rough terrain with lots of steep hills. On 8 tires it's a beast.
17:43 You’re welcome
Samuel Desalvo your gaycome
They should make tracks for this unit
Upcavage Enterprises Landscaping omg yas
Absolutely, it depends on the application however, I would want it to float on the snow just like Polaris has their tracks for there atv’s a plow with tracks would dominate on that machine in places with high snow volumes. I live in PA however, we use atv’s with regular tires for all our commercial sidewalks. It eliminates laborers that would otherwise use shovels.
There are... I'm sure these fit the Ventrac. They're work rated track (not leasure play track as on quad/utv/etc)
info.soucy-track.com/heavyduty-track-systems-st-110
Thanks for the input!
......... The machine is an articulate steer.......... Explane how that would work
I know with my RWD cars my snow tires are stepped down a width size for better snow/ice traction. I think that Ventrac would do better in the snow with the 4 tire setup than the 8 tire setup. I think the 8 tire/wheel setup is probably better suited for dirt, sand and/or mud. Of course your experience would know better than me and my spoiled paved road driving as*. Subscribed!
I'm a Deere guy but would love try out one of those Ventracs.
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Putting a set of taller and wider tires with spacers putting them outside the fenders would do wonders in deep snow. Raised on a farm/ranch when needed we just jumped into the Case 2670 or versatile 935 nothing stood in your way. Going thru creeks, drifts that you would get lost in was a snap. Calving season I was blown away by what articulating tractors were capable of. That Ventrac just needs its belly up higher there is not enough flotation with the low profile tires. Better floatation with AG tread tires will make that ventrac a snow machine.
Stan I agree with you that Franky is nuts
Pretty much 😅
Ventrac is on the right track. What they need to do to make it something like what I'd buy is put much bigger wheels, like 16 inch. Put some 8 x 16" R1 or R2 tractor tires, and have a decent front loader and rear PTO to run a brushhog or tiller and you've got something. The Ferarri Cobram tractor is a better machine because of that. Ventrac makes the changes so that we can use our existing CAT 1 attachments and power them, plus a front loader we'll buy one. Until then it just a fancy lawn tractor.
Hey Stan, you had a quote from your original Ventrac review saying you were putting the Ventrac in places where you couldn't 50 hp tractor and while i don't doubt that's true, we have a pair of 55 horse Mahindras (both 5500s) and my dad has put them in exactly some of the places that you are talking about, and we'veonly gotten it stuck once in those areas. we had a Woods BB 72 rated for 2 inches, and we have run over full grown pine trees that fell over. after that crapped out, we got a 720 and its rated for 3-4 inches and we do the same thing, and it does great. we put our mahindras through worse heck than you put your Ventrac through, my dad was once mowing through 8 foot tall grass next to a pond and got it stuck in 3 feet of mud. all we did was un-hook the mower, tow it away, hook the tractor up to a pick-up and started it up and towed it out, they are built to last i tell you.
Awesome stuff! Thanks for sharing!!
It did better then I thought. That dual setup is cool.
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The ventrac is a briliant machine. Machines suffer in Africa and our 4 Ventracs are starting to fall apart after 10 years and still start every morning and just work a 9 hour day without any stres.
Those ventrac are badass great review stan!
Thank you 😀👍
Love my Ventrac 4500z (Kubota 32hp has) for native mowing and snow removal...!!
Gas .....NOT has....
Have you learned how to put the hydraulic speed to neutral and hold the SDLA lever with bungee cord to warn hydrologic fueled? Sounds like your hydro pumps were screening pissed cause they were still cold.....
that was a cool CAT loader with volvo logos lol
Jacobsen1450 yeah lol
VOLVO wheeled loader,,,not cat
kenny harris it’s called a joke
Eric Motyka lol,lmao,,gathered that
kenny harris ohh okay didn’t know
if it's frozen he will make it Mybe!!!!
Tessa 50% chance that he'll make it through that swamp
My home State Michigan next time you go out in this neighborhood hit me up.
Ventrac is built by Farmers here in Ohio they are the same family that started stiener tractor these are some great tractors
Stanley, I can't believe how much you complain about the cold. Love your vids though
Can't stand it! But thanks 👍
Dang this looks like the studdliest thing I've seen since my Gravely walk-behind. I miss that SOB. When it was a pain, what a pain -- but you could do things nothing else could.
DAMMM 2 BEAUTIFUL FORD F 250s
Just a tip if your Gunna be in the snow u should take the dually wheeler because the more u cut through the snow to get to the terrain the better, with the dually it floats on the snow and has no traction.
Mighty Moe Excavating likes the ventrac! At least you will have a trail to walk the 🦊 fox. Thanks for the entertainment
Heck yeah 👍
Now? Do we want a new 4500 built before the buyout or AFTER ?.
TENWIDE,
.I like it all b.but the "road" speed. I know a way to get more, 25 /35 would save a Lot of Selma
This mini keyboard just don't work for me. I'jj be back eventually.
Hey y’all remember to like his videos too
We think he will make it... as my mother always says, "Never bet against Franky!"
Hell yeah hes going to make it
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Don't think so Tim! Put some flowers and makup on it, maybe it will float ! !
Saw you on the road the other night in inver grove heights, you had your new backdrag blade on. I think you should figure out some form of brake lights because it is kind of awkward driving behind when you can't see your brake lights or blinkers. Just a thought of mine, keep up the great videos!
-Griffin
Thanks for the info!
I'm thinking that there's a limit as to how many tires you can have pushing through the snow (in a one horse open sleigh). Too many tires and those tires are meeting lots of resistance to movement through the snow. And of course, turf tires aren't made for "off-roading" though deep snow. But if someone offered me that machine, I would accept it in less than a heartbeat. It would make lawn mowing and snow blowing FUN! Wouldn't rule out off-roading either.
Agreed. Thanks for sharing!
I want a ventrac!
I was pushing poo outta my chicken coop with a 4 wheeler n plow for yrs till i got one of these, Omg what a great machine its been, powerful n solid
They are great machines. compact and powerful with excellent traction.
My father used to say, "Four wheel drive doesn't mean you won't get stuck, it means you'll get stuck worse."
Frankly says relax right after going to Hollywood 😜😂
Lol!
Did Franky air down the tires before he went out there?
Hi
@3:54 Shoveled it out, It's gotta start. More like He is gonna make the somBitch start. he shoveled it out dammit.
You ain't stuck till you stop movin!
He will make it if he plays it right. Used them in mucky water in cricks in cat tails
He can make it through the swamp
Stan i got a 430 steiner with the same tires as ur ventrac. I got video to back that up. My 430 does better in deep snow like that without the duals on it. Experience my friend. Bless you too.
So you think a smaller heavier footprint in deep snow works better? Surly you jest!
Joe Blow its strange but in snow these ventracs do much better without the duals in snow.
Steiner is better....My company mow's the reserviors in this area with it. 4 tires are better than eight in snow. Kinda like a car with skinny tires does better in snow
Ive seen a new ventrac being demo'd by the school here. The ventrac is a bit larger and the hydrauliic flip up deck ventrac has is way too heavy and its just longer than older simpler mower decks steiner makes. They are both great machines. Id take my steiner and trade for a ventrac sure. The steiner i got just wont quit and always gets it done for us so i have no need to shop for a ventrac. I cant say one is better than the other. Build quality is equal.
steiner is replaced with vantracwith both companys working together on vantrac from kubota with the kubota gas powered and diesel
I believe I would have in the shop and ready to go.
Ventrac is the best and nothing but quality that's for sure👊👊👍👍👍🤙🤙🤙🤙
I'd totally subscribe to a Franky channel.
Man, I love my Ventrac. Wish we were having the snow here in Boise ID. Just bought a snow blower for the Ventrac this last year and still haven't got to use the equipment yet. Glad to see that you were storing it outside. About to move, gives me hope in the new place for the Ventrac to be outside.
About to move into a rental and the HOAs. But going to cover the Ventrac with a canvas trap in the summer and winter months and just move it into the garage for the spring in fall(those are the time when it rains here).
You'd definitely use it here!
Franky is wild!!!
Yes he can make it through it
Frankie is one cool dude
Agreed 👍
Of course he will!!
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Wel now i can't wait to hear your thoughts on the Ebling plow.....these look like they would be great for commercial work.
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Get some chaps those high powered saws will go straight though your leg
Im jealous ........throw Missouri down some of that snow , we got a under 2 inches last night :(
Those impacts are solid
Brother Stan, help me out: you still liking the Ventrac? Should I buy the 4520 diesel? I need your opinion.
In the old Pace salsa commercia ls they would say "get a rope" Frankie should have tied a cable to the back. Those battery safety switches and "run-on fuses have ruined a lot good men's days. Stay warm and b safe. Burrrrr
Thanks for sharing!
I have faith in Franky
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I think he’s gonna make it through
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Part 2? ...such a tease!
Check my channel for pt 2!
I like the Ventrac!
Yes he will make it
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Yes it will start
And it works better if you just drive the tractor up on a block of wood or brick or something curb to and spin the wheel on or off that way the transmission doesn’t free spin while your putting the wheel on
Thanks for your input!
I LOVE YOUR FOX!!
never beat vantrac with the reliable kubota gas and diesel powered engine units
yes he will make it
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I knew that baby would start
Mr. Genedak,
We are in nw arkansas and love your videos. I have a question, we are getting more into landscaping along with our mowing and weed control. How do you price your labor for building retaining walls?
stan as much as u like this no way in hell would you spend over 30,000 if they didn't give it to you for free
Hey Stan , do you think these are worth the investent? And how much with all the attachments ?
Just losses the center bolt then tap it with a hammer and the wedge inside the pipe will loosen up and allow you to spin the wheel off don’t remover the entire center rod!
i need to find a reason to own one of these. Live in N.Michigan, ill find a reason :)
I liked to attachments and smaller footprint until I did the research and can get a John Deere 4 series for not much more and it will do a lot more and has more attachments. The used ventrac I saw had a $18,000 price tag with a push blade only and wasn't the diesel version.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing that
Hay I think you live not to far from me by the looks at the green Marengo toter in the corner of your garage
Cool 👍
I should do a video on my ventrac and everything that’s been wrong with it and how many weeks it has been down.
I know this is an older video and unlikely to be seen but they offer a few engines. Which one are you testing?
What engine you guys running in the ventrac towing the loader and such with it? The diesel?
Confucius say just stand on it!
I'll use air in the shop. But in the field yea I'll take portable battery
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That’s thing is so low to the ground it gets caught up in 4 inches of snow
Have you ever tested a Z-Spray or a Permagreen Triumph? That would be really cool to see. They are pretty similar but the Z-Spray is a little more fancy.
the strong kubota engines
Stan what's the story with your fox?
Check my other videos!
Go for it
It will start
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He is going to make it
That's one heck of a little tractor. A little small for my applications but; still a powerhouse of a tractor.
Agreed 👍