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Jesus Christ, this season is a sh*tshow. Just so you guys know, none of this is "canon". Dan Harmon even said it's some of the worst writing that he's seen in television.
Just seeing this now and probably not gonna watch the reaction because I hate this episode BUT! I think she says that in the very first episode when she’s arguing with Annie about adults vs children
@@willsofer3679 I wouldn’t call these writers terrible they is at least few hilarious jokes every single episode. They’re clearly not as good as the writing team for seasons 1 - 3 though.
@@willsofer3679You season 4 haters are such nitpickers about what’s bad about the season, as if Dan Harmon is a God giving his gospel. I’d watch season 4 a thousand times before I think of watching Season 6 ever again.
15:15 Alison Brie voiced Aftershock (Electro's daughter) in "Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur". And Gillian Jacobs is in the cast of "Invincible" as Atom Eve.
What britta was referencing at 0:48 was The three colours triogy by Polish filmmaker Krzysztof Kieślowski, with each film focusing on a colour and theme of the French flag.
"I had a hamburger the other day, and suddenly I'm not cold all the time." 🤣🤣🤣 Also, "my football knee!" 🤣 *Edit to Add:* "This better not awaken anything in me." 👍🏾
Didn’t they say in the pilot it was troys shoulders that got hurt in a Keg flip, now it’s his knee?😂 Also I love watching the anger grow on Eric and Aaron’s faces as the Abed Phantom Menace scene unfolded😂❤❤❤❤
Not only that, but Troy in the pilot recalls "Little Annie Adderall's" breakdown with her screaming "Everyone's a Robot!!" Before running face first through the Plate glass window (which Annie later says caused her to get facial reconstruction surgery). But in this episode she just yells at Troy and runs out. It's like they forgot, or decided to retcon those things. Lol
No error here. They are further along in developing these characters so they are exploring the event more closely and it turned out (always was) that Troy lied about his injury b/c he didn't want to stay on the path he was in, but would never express it b/c he felt the need to project an image that matched what other expected of him (the pilot discusses this), so he is unreliable when telling the story b/c he is lying, mostly about himself but when they first met he didn't want to admit that Annie(an outcast in High School) affected him in such a big way(the most popular guy at their High School), so he was just trying to hurt her for bringing up the incident. They get a lot wrong during the gas leak year(e.g. motivation and execution of their paintball episode) but it is mostly in misunderstanding the characters, making their actions inconsistent with the rest of their series arc, and in the execution of the big hallmarks of the show which are also the result of not fully understanding the show, they never (to my knowledge) made mistakes in continuity in relation to previous seasons.
Britta is Harley Quinn in Batman Audio and Injustice, Mera in animated Aquaman ; Annie is Aftershock in Marvel's Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, Black Widow in Marvel Avengers Academy; Jeff is in Spider-Man 2; Shirley in Civil War, Abed in The Winter Soldier; Abed's gal friend is Captain Marvel; Troy is in Homecoming; The Dean is in Civil War as MIT faulty, The Riddler in Harley Quinn; Chang is in Endgame; Jeff's ex (the Prof) is in Gotham Knights; Leonard was in Batman The Animated Series, 1979 animated Spider-Man.. I'm sure there's many others. I couldn't find anything for Chevy or John Oliver.
Yeah but that’s every mainstream tv show / movie. Unattractive main characters are never that unattractive, because they’re too cowardly to scare audiences away.
Its like those movies where the girl is played by someone like Rachel Leigh Cook, but we are supposed to think they were ugly because their hair was up and they had glasses on.
Steve Windwood is an English singer/songwriter. Started in the 60’s. Was in a few bands but went solo in the 80’s. One song of his you may know is Valerie.
I always wondered what cinema would be showing The Phantom Menace in 2008? There was the 3D re-release in 2012 but in 2008, people were still hating on The Phantom Menace pretty hard and I doubt anywhere would just show that film on its own. If it was part of a marathon, I could see that being done. Also, the hamburger line from Britta's protestor friend is hilarious. Gillian Jacobs and Alison Brie both directed episodes of a Marvel show that was on Disney+ and they've both done voices but yeah I can't think of any live action superhero stuff..
Aaron reminds me of them growing staches on Seinfeld as a vacation from themselves. But also of the episode of The Office when they can't remember if Stanley had a moustache or not. Did Aaron have facial hair before?
SURF NINJAS!!!!! YESSSSSS!!! "I'd cut him but, I don't have a knife" is one of my favorite lines of any movie 🤣 You can't convince me it's all nostalgia! It's a great movie! And young Rob Schneider believing he's got prophetic powers or something 😂
As a stand alone episode this is one of the more enjoyable of season 4, however I really don’t like the idea of the group being “destined” to get together. I much prefer the concept of making a special connection with an unexpected group of people at an unexpected place. I think it’s a more beautiful and hopeful idea that you by chance can find something lasting and meaningful in a place you least expect it
I just don't take the "destiny" too seriously. Sure, Abed might say it like that, but I just take it as a nice coincidence. Sometimes the world is small and full of coincidences, and that is one of them for the group :). I kinda like that trope of people meeting before they knew each other. I'm sure there was room for improvement, but I rather enjoy the episode :).
@@terentule I really like the small connections the characters have to each others past, like Annie crushing on Troy since high school and Jeff and Shirley’s foosball shared story. However making every character’s past connected feels very forced to me, and while it can be a pretty enjoyable trope it’s usually a pretty dumb one as well imo
Like what you like. But I'm with Abed. The Phantom Menace and all the prequels for that matter in my opinion are infinitely more interesting to talk about; all the behind the scenes and making of stuff, rather than watching the movies themselves.
If you think shaming children for wanting to watch The Phantom Menace is the worst thing Abed has ever done, just wait until season five's polygraph machine episode!
Eric and Aaron are awesome guys and really fun to watch but no amount of gaslighting will make me accept that the Phantom Menace is a good movie 💀 I know it's all personal opinions at the end of the day but nostalgia be damned I will die on this hill 😂
It’s a delicate balance, it’s not a great movie but it got way too much hate. People claiming that it destroyed Star Wars were insane. On the other hand modern audiences get to enjoy Clone Wars which explores all the stuff it was meant to much better and remember Phantom Menace as basically just an introduction
I mean... the plot is doodoo, but so is (imho) the ones we got to see in the OT. You know what the OT didn't have? Goshdarned pod-racing and cool lightsaber shenanigans. It's not personal opinions so much as it is about SW always being more fun the more fanservice and fanmovie-world building was injected. Ep1 did just that, and anyone who wasn't a jaded old geezer at the time had a freaking blast. Could it benefit from some Topher Gracing? Sure, and there is a huge avenue for retconning or remastering the entire movie for so, so many reasons... but even as crusty as it was, it did everything right. Like all matrix sequels, come at me, half the internet Except Animatrix, of course. No need to defend that insane masterpiece, somehow even better than the movie it got inspired by.
I was 12 when I saw Phantom Menace in theaters. I went to pee during the Podracing scene when I didn't even have to go. I went just to have something to do. @@minhuang8848
I don’t particularly love this episode, but it was kinda cool to see the characters act more like their season one selves for a bit (besides Britta I guess), especially Chang.
Not Marvel but still superhero related, Gillian Jacobs (Britta) voiced Mera in the "Aquaman: King of Atlantis" miniseries in 2021 and also voiced the superhero Supernova of the Vindicator team in Rick and Morty Alison Brie voiced the Captain Planet like character "Planetina" in Rick and Morty and voiced "Aftershock" in Marvels "Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur" and voiced Black Widow in the Marvel Avengers Academy game. And Chevy Chase was in "Zoom" a superhero comedy film
The main theater here in my city, on Saturday and Sunday mornings, will play older family movies at a super discounted price, it’s how I saw Land Before Time, Home Alone, and the first Ice Age movie in theaters. It could have been something like that
I dont really have an opinion on SW prequels. But I'm glad there are tons of evidence of how much people hated them. Just to prove the hypocrisy of the people that claim SW was absolutely perfect before Disney
@@CommanderSteelTrap Cool. So what are the writers of "Happy Endings" who wrote this (and were cancelled shortly after this season), doing now? Don't get me wrong. Happy Endings ended on a strong note, but they were asked to come into this show as freshman writers who didn't know what they were doing. They even admitted that.
Sorry but though yes the pun that Star Wars ultra fans hated on the prequels a TON. In general they were not liked or considered good movies. Comparing how people looked back on the original 3 and the prequels is a completely different beast. The original movie A New Hope for example wasn't universally loved but had a massive amount of praise and even the reviews that criticized it praised it's production quality, special effects, filming, etc (just usually they didn't care for the science fantasy sort of theming of it all). The original also pioneered a bunch of movie special effects techniques and was rightfully praised on a technical level for that. While the prequels, such as the Phantom Menace were critically panned and pretty broadly considered mediocre at best and at worst it was hammered for failing on many fronts. Even the use of so much CGI, while somewhat pioneering again was also criticized. Even the better reviews have major critiques. Sorry it's just not the same. Yes the prequels were entertaining like many bad movies are but they were considered bad movies (to different degrees) by most people who weren't young children. While the original 3 (especially the first two) were praised more than not. It's simply a different beast. I get it, you like the prequels and hate when people rag on on them... and yeah it's pretty messed up to rag on kids for wanting to see it (which was the point of the bit of course, Abed being an ultra fan boy who didn't understand social limits) but I'm sorry, the prequels are just not good movies by most peoples considerations and the only reason it's had an uptick now is people who were young kids when it came out. I'm sorry but young kids aren't a good measure of a good broad appeal movie. The original 3 were broadly liked by kids AND adults of the time. Thank god for Dave Filoni and his work in the Clone Wars which lead to Rebels, The Mandalorian, etc. He really took some horribly written and directed characters and made them into something great and I'm glad Hayden had a chance to reprise his role in a quality context. I don't blame the prequel actors. I mean Lucas managed to make Samuel Jackson extremely boring! I don't think I've ever seen anyone else ever achieve that. I didn't think it was possible. That alone told me that the other actors can't be fairly judged on how they came across in those movies. It's fine having a minority view point of a movie, or liking something because you liked it as a kid. It's fine to enjoy movies others don't. I really liked Unbreakable despite it being panned pretty hard and yeah it's not a particularly good movie if I objectively look at it. Though I liked it and yeah again Samuel Jackson wasn't boring in that lol (still don't know how Lucas pulled making Samuel Jackson boring off, that's impressively bad). Though don't pretend that the hate of the prequels is anything like the nostalgia for the original 3. These are completely different beasts with actual contemporary reviews and commentary to back up how different they were perceived when they came out.
Much like the last episode, I thought this was a really good episode that would easily be on par with a lot of the episodes from the earlier seasons. Maybe it's a little contrived and there are some clear contradictions, but I really liked the concept and seeing how these characters were linked to each other before they came to Greendale. It's got some nice emotional character-based moments, as well as some really great jokes (such as the origin of Magnitude's catchphrase and the Dean's proclivity for cross-dressing). It probably would've been better if Dan Harmon had been involved, but the episode here was pretty good and one of the strongest episodes of this season. Also, watching Aaron and Eric's increasingly enraged reactions to Abed's Phantom Menace criticisms makes me all the more hopeful we'll get a Spaced reaction at some point (plus it's a great show that feels somewhat similar in spirt to Community)
I hate the fact that this episode implies that the group coming together was some sort of destined fate, and not just a random group of people at a very low point in their lives that ended up helping and bettering each other.
I already wrote it here elsewhere, but I don't feel the implication is that strong. Sure, they might say something along the lines, I just don't take the fate with much seriousness, more as nice, curious coincidence :)
At the end of the day "fate" is just a fancy title we give reality at hand, which could just have been something else (i.e. no-one ratting out Jeff and thus no Jeff on-campus to try and hook up with Britta and forming a study group)
I always thought that Abed hating the Phantom Menace so much was so out of character lol He always tries to enjoy the most out of TV and he trying to make some kids not enjoy a movie was so mean for no reason. Even if he thought it was a bad movie Abed always watched bad movies with Troy. Why he would prevent some other people from watching something? IDK Season 4 has a lot of good things and I don't like jumping on the hate train but Abed's portrayal this season is terrible. I feel Dan Harmon is the person who understands Abed the most and here is where his absence is more noticeable.
Not really, he called Shirely a bad person for praising Brett Ratner in season 3. "Even if he thought it was a bad movie Abed always watched bad movies with Troy. " Those were low budget movies that they riffed on. Different vibe than watching a bad blockbuster.
@@help4343 Brett Ratner isn't the same scenario as this at all...even in that scene he just walks away. Also in that episode they state that Abed is more stressed than usual due to being kicked out of Greendale, even that episode is about Abed going to therapy lol Aaaand that was just a meta joke, maybe edgy? But this episode Abed is just "haha prequels bad" 2010 vibes. Plenty of reasons as why is not the same case.
I know that this is an episode that resonates with fans in different ways. A lot use it as an example of why Season 4 sucks. I don't agree that it was that bad but it is a good example of how you can use all the familiar beats and yet it still feels a little off. They used a lot of OG references and character moments, we got the "clip show of clips we never saw" which has been done a few times already. But it's somehow comes off like a parody of itself. It also tries to payoff a lot of the leftovers from Season 3 finale and fails. (That whole Chang working for City College idea is wasted imo)
If children aren't taught at a young age that The Phantom Menace is a microcosm of everything wrong with the Star Wars franchise, then they'll grow up thinking what George Lucas was okay and their understanding of what is good and what is not good will be forever skewed and they'll keep paying money for crap movies and Hollywood will keep making crap movies.
Blue white red I rather call it the 3 colour trilogy An amazing trilogy though epically white which has Julie Delpy (Before Trilogy) and is about Polish immigrants in France I think thenwriter/director of the trilogy is Polish and a prick apparently
i used to think that.....until jar jar abrams killed the franchise.....he's one of the extremely few people i actually hate. he fcked star trek and then because he's a jew they gave him star wars to ruin as well.....
Saw Phantom Menace 5 times in the theater... it was the last VHS tape I bought before everything went to DVD. There was nothing like it, especially at the time. Liam Neeson as a Jedi (he killed it!), Pod Racing was insane in theater, and Dart Maul + Duel of Fates was and still is epic. And it's still a better put together film than Attack of the Clones.
The mustache is, and always will be, ridiculous. Unless you can grow a world class mustache? Never just stache it. People end up either looking like Paul Blart or Paul Blart if he only patrolled Toys 'R' Us to the Kids Gap if you catch my drift. Either way? Staches rarely work. Not unless you can look like an early 1900s strong man. Or a background Hunger Games District 1 dude.
Phantom Menace is not a good movie and the genuine angst worked up by these guys when Abed trashes this is actually disturbing. It's an incredibly weak movie (not to mention introducing the the worst character in the SW universe) and for some reason these fellas, especially Eric, get so worked up like it's the wort sin to say anything negative on it. Don't get it.
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Jesus Christ, this season is a sh*tshow. Just so you guys know, none of this is "canon". Dan Harmon even said it's some of the worst writing that he's seen in television.
Shirley actually threatens to put someone's head through a jukebox in an earlier episode and Jeff mentions that it was way to specific to be made up
Just seeing this now and probably not gonna watch the reaction because I hate this episode BUT! I think she says that in the very first episode when she’s arguing with Annie about adults vs children
episode 1
Maybe the monkey made Chang MORE crazy but he oiled himself up and slid into a vent before he got attacked by it. The man was born wiiillld😂
Or maybe this never happened, and this all was a gas leak/terrible writers.
@@willsofer3679 I wouldn’t call these writers terrible they is at least few hilarious jokes every single episode. They’re clearly not as good as the writing team for seasons 1 - 3 though.
Is that a new stereotype?
@@dantheman7016 Also part of the writers from previous seasons stayed. Like Megan Ganz. People tend to forget that.
@@willsofer3679You season 4 haters are such nitpickers about what’s bad about the season, as if Dan Harmon is a God giving his gospel. I’d watch season 4 a thousand times before I think of watching Season 6 ever again.
15:15 Alison Brie voiced Aftershock (Electro's daughter) in "Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur". And Gillian Jacobs is in the cast of "Invincible" as Atom Eve.
Alison did say if she got a role in Marvel, she want to be the villain
@@syabilaazri7834She'd make an awesome villain lol. I'm still surprised she hasn't been cast in a live action MCU role yet
They have also directed episodes of Marvel's 616.
@@TheYoungDoctor Damn shame they removed them from Disney+
Alison Brie was Black Widow’s voice in a video game and Gillian Jacob’s voiced Harley Quinn in Injustice animated movie
Can't wait for the giant spider story to pan out
We finally found Aaron’s special power. He has face-blindness, but he can recognize a movie poster from a mere glimpse.
Nope.
I love how Eric tells time with star wars releases sometimes.
What britta was referencing at 0:48 was The three colours triogy by Polish filmmaker Krzysztof Kieślowski, with each film focusing on a colour and theme of the French flag.
Fun fact - at 3:17 the Greendale Citizen of the Month photos behind Jeff are all pics of Annie
"I had a hamburger the other day, and suddenly I'm not cold all the time."
🤣🤣🤣
Also, "my football knee!" 🤣
*Edit to Add:* "This better not awaken anything in me." 👍🏾
Didn’t they say in the pilot it was troys shoulders that got hurt in a Keg flip, now it’s his knee?😂 Also I love watching the anger grow on Eric and Aaron’s faces as the Abed Phantom Menace scene unfolded😂❤❤❤❤
No it was his knee
Gas leak year, he’s just thinking it’s his knee.
@@TheFilmmakersTimeChamber it was a continuity error lol they did say in the pilot it was his shoulders but…. Gas leak 🤷♂️
Not only that, but Troy in the pilot recalls "Little Annie Adderall's" breakdown with her screaming "Everyone's a Robot!!" Before running face first through the Plate glass window (which Annie later says caused her to get facial reconstruction surgery).
But in this episode she just yells at Troy and runs out. It's like they forgot, or decided to retcon those things. Lol
No error here. They are further along in developing these characters so they are exploring the event more closely and it turned out (always was) that Troy lied about his injury b/c he didn't want to stay on the path he was in, but would never express it b/c he felt the need to project an image that matched what other expected of him (the pilot discusses this), so he is unreliable when telling the story b/c he is lying, mostly about himself but when they first met he didn't want to admit that Annie(an outcast in High School) affected him in such a big way(the most popular guy at their High School), so he was just trying to hurt her for bringing up the incident. They get a lot wrong during the gas leak year(e.g. motivation and execution of their paintball episode) but it is mostly in misunderstanding the characters, making their actions inconsistent with the rest of their series arc, and in the execution of the big hallmarks of the show which are also the result of not fully understanding the show, they never (to my knowledge) made mistakes in continuity in relation to previous seasons.
11:40 is one of the most impressive feats on this channel, wtf Aaron.
He’s a horror fan right? Any horror fan would recognize that even if they haven’t seen the movie.
@@itsyoboyb6314 Has nothing to do with seeing the movie, all you have to do is have seen the poster.
tbf that was a heavily marketed movie at the time
Ken Jeong was in Avengers Endgame he was the security guard that saw Scott in the storage unit after Remey the Rat🐀 🥘 freed him from the quantum realm
And Jim Rash was the college dean in the beginning of Civil War.
Britta is Harley Quinn in Batman Audio and Injustice, Mera in animated Aquaman ; Annie is Aftershock in Marvel's Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, Black Widow in Marvel Avengers Academy; Jeff is in Spider-Man 2; Shirley in Civil War, Abed in The Winter Soldier; Abed's gal friend is Captain Marvel; Troy is in Homecoming; The Dean is in Civil War as MIT faulty, The Riddler in Harley Quinn; Chang is in Endgame; Jeff's ex (the Prof) is in Gotham Knights; Leonard was in Batman The Animated Series, 1979 animated Spider-Man.. I'm sure there's many others. I couldn't find anything for Chevy or John Oliver.
Joel Mchale was in Spider-Man 2 as the manager of the bank.
In my opinion this is one of the best of season 4. I wonder how much better a concept like that would be woth Dan Harmon behind it.
Chang being an addition to the group finally is a nice touch
Annie ends up making me pop-pop too, Magnitude.
Annie's pretty young, we try not to sexualize her
Troy was lying. Little Annie Adderall was still very cute back then
Yeah but that’s every mainstream tv show / movie. Unattractive main characters are never that unattractive, because they’re too cowardly to scare audiences away.
Its like those movies where the girl is played by someone like Rachel Leigh Cook, but we are supposed to think they were ugly because their hair was up and they had glasses on.
I was always wondering how eric was going to react to the Abed trashing on The Phantom Menace scene and I was not surprised by his reaction at all
Annie Voiced Planetina in that one episode of Rick and Morty if that counts as comic book adjacent and Britta voices Atom Eve in invincible.
Gillian also voiced the super hero character Supernova on Rick and Morty.
@@snerdterguson OMG UR RIGHT!!
Britta is also in the Don Cheadle Captain Planet Collegehumor sketch.
Eric: That's the year the Clone Wars movie came out.
Me: Omg, it's sorta gonna factor in!
Steve Windwood is an English singer/songwriter. Started in the 60’s. Was in a few bands but went solo in the 80’s. One song of his you may know is Valerie.
The flash backs are all in 2008. The boys were going to see a rerelease.
I was too distracted by the mustache I don't remember anything else from the video
I always wondered what cinema would be showing The Phantom Menace in 2008? There was the 3D re-release in 2012 but in 2008, people were still hating on The Phantom Menace pretty hard and I doubt anywhere would just show that film on its own. If it was part of a marathon, I could see that being done.
Also, the hamburger line from Britta's protestor friend is hilarious.
Gillian Jacobs and Alison Brie both directed episodes of a Marvel show that was on Disney+ and they've both done voices but yeah I can't think of any live action superhero stuff..
When people bitch about the gas leak season, Magnitude's origin is always one of the things they complain about. Glad you guys enjoyed it.
Out of many things to complain about, why would it be the origin of Pop Pop?
Wait really? Why?
So close to season 5 . . . so close
Aaron reminds me of them growing staches on Seinfeld as a vacation from themselves. But also of the episode of The Office when they can't remember if Stanley had a moustache or not. Did Aaron have facial hair before?
This is my personal favorite episode of season 4
Just a mustache is ALWAYS a good look.
Jon Peters is the producer you’re talking about. Bradley Cooper actually played him in Licorice Pizza
Chevey Chase body double made it into the episode.
“Who’s that old guy ?”
“Hi, I’m Pierce Hawthorne”
“Aww, come on !!”
Chevy was fired during this episodes production. It was a body double playing him. If you notice, they hide his face.
The Blind Wave cold open was so funny. It does grow on your face.
SURF NINJAS!!!!! YESSSSSS!!!
"I'd cut him but, I don't have a knife" is one of my favorite lines of any movie 🤣
You can't convince me it's all nostalgia! It's a great movie!
And young Rob Schneider believing he's got prophetic powers or something 😂
As a stand alone episode this is one of the more enjoyable of season 4, however I really don’t like the idea of the group being “destined” to get together. I much prefer the concept of making a special connection with an unexpected group of people at an unexpected place. I think it’s a more beautiful and hopeful idea that you by chance can find something lasting and meaningful in a place you least expect it
I just don't take the "destiny" too seriously. Sure, Abed might say it like that, but I just take it as a nice coincidence. Sometimes the world is small and full of coincidences, and that is one of them for the group :). I kinda like that trope of people meeting before they knew each other. I'm sure there was room for improvement, but I rather enjoy the episode :).
@@terentule I really like the small connections the characters have to each others past, like Annie crushing on Troy since high school and Jeff and Shirley’s foosball shared story. However making every character’s past connected feels very forced to me, and while it can be a pretty enjoyable trope it’s usually a pretty dumb one as well imo
Like what you like. But I'm with Abed. The Phantom Menace and all the prequels for that matter in my opinion are infinitely more interesting to talk about; all the behind the scenes and making of stuff, rather than watching the movies themselves.
The mustache rocks Aaron!
The City College ending is one of the best jokes in Season 4, especially since SPOILERS:
It's never brought up again in the show. 😆
Shirley was not the mom, that was another black lady, Shirley was in an elevator with Captain America when he went back to get the Pim particles.
yikes 😬
If you think shaming children for wanting to watch The Phantom Menace is the worst thing Abed has ever done, just wait until season five's polygraph machine episode!
shoots right through
That Prom Night poster instant recall was nuts!
Phantom Menace is, at best, barely tolerable backstory and I stand by that.
aaron figuring out that was the prom night poster from that is one of the most impressive things i've ever seen
Chevy Chase was in Zoom, a super hero movie, not related to marvel but still count 😊
Jim Rash (Dean Pelton) was also in Captain America: Civil War
Eric and Aaron are awesome guys and really fun to watch but no amount of gaslighting will make me accept that the Phantom Menace is a good movie 💀 I know it's all personal opinions at the end of the day but nostalgia be damned I will die on this hill 😂
The animation kids will never understand how disappointing it was for those of us coming from the other direction.
It’s a delicate balance, it’s not a great movie but it got way too much hate. People claiming that it destroyed Star Wars were insane.
On the other hand modern audiences get to enjoy Clone Wars which explores all the stuff it was meant to much better and remember Phantom Menace as basically just an introduction
I mean... the plot is doodoo, but so is (imho) the ones we got to see in the OT. You know what the OT didn't have? Goshdarned pod-racing and cool lightsaber shenanigans.
It's not personal opinions so much as it is about SW always being more fun the more fanservice and fanmovie-world building was injected. Ep1 did just that, and anyone who wasn't a jaded old geezer at the time had a freaking blast. Could it benefit from some Topher Gracing? Sure, and there is a huge avenue for retconning or remastering the entire movie for so, so many reasons... but even as crusty as it was, it did everything right.
Like all matrix sequels, come at me, half the internet
Except Animatrix, of course. No need to defend that insane masterpiece, somehow even better than the movie it got inspired by.
I was 12 when I saw Phantom Menace in theaters. I went to pee during the Podracing scene when I didn't even have to go. I went just to have something to do. @@minhuang8848
I don’t particularly love this episode, but it was kinda cool to see the characters act more like their season one selves for a bit (besides Britta I guess), especially Chang.
Not Marvel but still superhero related, Gillian Jacobs (Britta) voiced Mera in the "Aquaman: King of Atlantis" miniseries in 2021 and also voiced the superhero Supernova of the Vindicator team in Rick and Morty
Alison Brie voiced the Captain Planet like character "Planetina" in Rick and Morty and voiced "Aftershock" in Marvels "Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur" and voiced Black Widow in the Marvel Avengers Academy game.
And Chevy Chase was in "Zoom" a superhero comedy film
"and we're all spider-man" YES YOU ARE
Gillian Jacobs (Britta) has played Atom Eve and Harley Quinn, so she has comic stuff
The main theater here in my city, on Saturday and Sunday mornings, will play older family movies at a super discounted price, it’s how I saw Land Before Time, Home Alone, and the first Ice Age movie in theaters. It could have been something like that
I dont really have an opinion on SW prequels.
But I'm glad there are tons of evidence of how much people hated them. Just to prove the hypocrisy of the people that claim SW was absolutely perfect before Disney
Holy shit! We've discovered Aaron's superpower. He's a movie poster savant. 😆
How will that be useful? I don't know, but that was impressive 😁
The moustache is fine Aaron, because it is Movember. If it is not removed by December 1st however...
Aaron should wear a T-Shirt with "I don't shave for Sherlock Holmes" on it
"I had a hamburger the other day and suddenly I'm not cold all the time"
lmao 😂
Britta is adam eve, since they were talking about what super hero stuff they’ve been in
Gretchen, stop trying to make the phantom menace happen. It's not going to happen!
Aaron you are reminding of that wanted picture of Dwight Shrute, hahahaha.
I need a hero
I honestly think the Pop, pop joke is my favorite of the entire series.
Fantastic episode.
In what universe?
@@willsofer3679 This one. Great episode.
@@CommanderSteelTrap Are you sure that you haven't been inhaling gas?
@@willsofer3679 I’m sure. I’m just not a sheep who thinks everything not made by Dan Harmon is trash.
@@CommanderSteelTrap Cool. So what are the writers of "Happy Endings" who wrote this (and were cancelled shortly after this season), doing now? Don't get me wrong. Happy Endings ended on a strong note, but they were asked to come into this show as freshman writers who didn't know what they were doing. They even admitted that.
that fuckin intro made me bust out laughing, you guys are too funny
This is the best episode of season 4
Immediately followed by the worst episode ever
Puppets.
Why am I not surprise that Star Wars had the longest segment in the discussion 😂😂😂
There is a continuity error in this episode but I still lived it. Troy dislocated both his shoulders, it wasn't a knee injury.
Sorry but though yes the pun that Star Wars ultra fans hated on the prequels a TON. In general they were not liked or considered good movies. Comparing how people looked back on the original 3 and the prequels is a completely different beast. The original movie A New Hope for example wasn't universally loved but had a massive amount of praise and even the reviews that criticized it praised it's production quality, special effects, filming, etc (just usually they didn't care for the science fantasy sort of theming of it all). The original also pioneered a bunch of movie special effects techniques and was rightfully praised on a technical level for that. While the prequels, such as the Phantom Menace were critically panned and pretty broadly considered mediocre at best and at worst it was hammered for failing on many fronts. Even the use of so much CGI, while somewhat pioneering again was also criticized. Even the better reviews have major critiques.
Sorry it's just not the same. Yes the prequels were entertaining like many bad movies are but they were considered bad movies (to different degrees) by most people who weren't young children. While the original 3 (especially the first two) were praised more than not. It's simply a different beast. I get it, you like the prequels and hate when people rag on on them... and yeah it's pretty messed up to rag on kids for wanting to see it (which was the point of the bit of course, Abed being an ultra fan boy who didn't understand social limits) but I'm sorry, the prequels are just not good movies by most peoples considerations and the only reason it's had an uptick now is people who were young kids when it came out. I'm sorry but young kids aren't a good measure of a good broad appeal movie. The original 3 were broadly liked by kids AND adults of the time.
Thank god for Dave Filoni and his work in the Clone Wars which lead to Rebels, The Mandalorian, etc. He really took some horribly written and directed characters and made them into something great and I'm glad Hayden had a chance to reprise his role in a quality context. I don't blame the prequel actors. I mean Lucas managed to make Samuel Jackson extremely boring! I don't think I've ever seen anyone else ever achieve that. I didn't think it was possible. That alone told me that the other actors can't be fairly judged on how they came across in those movies.
It's fine having a minority view point of a movie, or liking something because you liked it as a kid. It's fine to enjoy movies others don't. I really liked Unbreakable despite it being panned pretty hard and yeah it's not a particularly good movie if I objectively look at it. Though I liked it and yeah again Samuel Jackson wasn't boring in that lol (still don't know how Lucas pulled making Samuel Jackson boring off, that's impressively bad). Though don't pretend that the hate of the prequels is anything like the nostalgia for the original 3. These are completely different beasts with actual contemporary reviews and commentary to back up how different they were perceived when they came out.
Abed is the hero we need in movie theaters
They have 6 seasons. You think the spider could come to be the plot of the movie? One can only dream
Much like the last episode, I thought this was a really good episode that would easily be on par with a lot of the episodes from the earlier seasons. Maybe it's a little contrived and there are some clear contradictions, but I really liked the concept and seeing how these characters were linked to each other before they came to Greendale. It's got some nice emotional character-based moments, as well as some really great jokes (such as the origin of Magnitude's catchphrase and the Dean's proclivity for cross-dressing). It probably would've been better if Dan Harmon had been involved, but the episode here was pretty good and one of the strongest episodes of this season.
Also, watching Aaron and Eric's increasingly enraged reactions to Abed's Phantom Menace criticisms makes me all the more hopeful we'll get a Spaced reaction at some point (plus it's a great show that feels somewhat similar in spirt to Community)
The guy on right like zorro?
Brittany is Atom Eve in Invincible
I don't know what bet Aaron lost to have to get that 'stache, but whoof.
I hope the giant spider is part of the movie.
I hate the fact that this episode implies that the group coming together was some sort of destined fate, and not just a random group of people at a very low point in their lives that ended up helping and bettering each other.
Which could be implied that it was fate. Everyone’s path led them there. AKA fate
I don't think those 2 ideas are mutually exclusive. Like Forest Gump said... I think both can be happening at the same time.
I already wrote it here elsewhere, but I don't feel the implication is that strong. Sure, they might say something along the lines, I just don't take the fate with much seriousness, more as nice, curious coincidence :)
At the end of the day "fate" is just a fancy title we give reality at hand, which could just have been something else (i.e. no-one ratting out Jeff and thus no Jeff on-campus to try and hook up with Britta and forming a study group)
Aaron kind of look like Ed Khamper
Mortal Kombat Annihilation is an amazing movie you hacks.
I really like this episode.
This episode is so good!
I know this season gets a lot of shit, but this is honestly one of my favorite episodes.
Abed was probably 17 in 2008.
Nah. Abed is a couple years older than Troy.
one more and it's over!
I always thought that Abed hating the Phantom Menace so much was so out of character lol He always tries to enjoy the most out of TV and he trying to make some kids not enjoy a movie was so mean for no reason. Even if he thought it was a bad movie Abed always watched bad movies with Troy. Why he would prevent some other people from watching something? IDK
Season 4 has a lot of good things and I don't like jumping on the hate train but Abed's portrayal this season is terrible. I feel Dan Harmon is the person who understands Abed the most and here is where his absence is more noticeable.
yea Dan Harmon would have Abed defend the prequels and make fun of the people that hate on them
@@ducksauce9187 I don't know. Harmon had Abed hating on Kingdom of the Crystal Skull too and that film isn't as bad as people make it out to be
Not really, he called Shirely a bad person for praising Brett Ratner in season 3. "Even if he thought it was a bad movie Abed always watched bad movies with Troy. " Those were low budget movies that they riffed on. Different vibe than watching a bad blockbuster.
@@help4343 Brett Ratner isn't the same scenario as this at all...even in that scene he just walks away.
Also in that episode they state that Abed is more stressed than usual due to being kicked out of Greendale, even that episode is about Abed going to therapy lol
Aaaand that was just a meta joke, maybe edgy? But this episode Abed is just "haha prequels bad" 2010 vibes.
Plenty of reasons as why is not the same case.
Or its subjective opinion of a writer of the show
Yeah Shirley is definitely being extremely unreasonable in this episode
I know that this is an episode that resonates with fans in different ways. A lot use it as an example of why Season 4 sucks.
I don't agree that it was that bad but it is a good example of how you can use all the familiar beats and yet it still feels a little off. They used a lot of OG references and character moments, we got the "clip show of clips we never saw" which has been done a few times already. But it's somehow comes off like a parody of itself. It also tries to payoff a lot of the leftovers from Season 3 finale and fails. (That whole Chang working for City College idea is wasted imo)
Gillian Jacobs voices Atom Eve in Invincible, also shes supernova a hero in the vindicators in Rick and Morty
If children aren't taught at a young age that The Phantom Menace is a microcosm of everything wrong with the Star Wars franchise, then they'll grow up thinking what George Lucas was okay and their understanding of what is good and what is not good will be forever skewed and they'll keep paying money for crap movies and Hollywood will keep making crap movies.
Way too late.
The Star Wars franchise is a macrocosm for all that is wrong with the Star Wars franchise.
@@tempsitch5632 A series that's entire canon relies on retconning; you're absolutely right.
Blue white red
I rather call it the 3 colour trilogy
An amazing trilogy though epically white which has Julie Delpy (Before Trilogy) and is about Polish immigrants in France
I think thenwriter/director of the trilogy is Polish and a prick apparently
Phantom menace sucks 😂😂😂
i used to think that.....until jar jar abrams killed the franchise.....he's one of the extremely few people i actually hate.
he fcked star trek and then because he's a jew they gave him star wars to ruin as well.....
Saw Phantom Menace 5 times in the theater... it was the last VHS tape I bought before everything went to DVD. There was nothing like it, especially at the time. Liam Neeson as a Jedi (he killed it!), Pod Racing was insane in theater, and Dart Maul + Duel of Fates was and still is epic. And it's still a better put together film than Attack of the Clones.
@@jmgonzalez4It's better than AotC and it still sucks.
@@jrob18mvp as long as we agree it's better than AotC, lol
@@jmgonzalez4 There ain't much worse. 😂
Have to agree with Abed. The Star Wars prequels were awful!
Nah good on Abed, The Phantom Menace suckssss
The pop-pop origan is the best part of the episode:)))))
The mustache is, and always will be, ridiculous.
Unless you can grow a world class mustache? Never just stache it. People end up either looking like Paul Blart or Paul Blart if he only patrolled Toys 'R' Us to the Kids Gap if you catch my drift.
Either way? Staches rarely work. Not unless you can look like an early 1900s strong man. Or a background Hunger Games District 1 dude.
Phantom Menace is not a good movie and the genuine angst worked up by these guys when Abed trashes this is actually disturbing. It's an incredibly weak movie (not to mention introducing the the worst character in the SW universe) and for some reason these fellas, especially Eric, get so worked up like it's the wort sin to say anything negative on it. Don't get it.
Love watching Aaron get so upset about how shity Phantom Menace is. 😂
7:57 weakest tag in the series
Not saying anything more than just this but Aaron can’t tell black people apart😭
Aaron can’t tell anyone apart, he has face blindness
@@jonasquinn7977 yea but I'm starting to notice a pattern😭
@@ChefPollen I mean, it’s not really a pattern if it applies to literally everyone
phantom menace sucked, there, I said it