Electric Turbo Camaro Project - Part 1: Design and Bench Testing
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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Electric Turbos Work! For years, ignorant forum trolls have been dismissing unrealized potential and RUclips personalities have been dramatizing what is a very legit technology. I own a custom built electric supercharger, driven by a brushless DC motor that runs on non-parasitic electricity and makes 5+ PSI of boost. If you've ever wanted to see the serious side of boost electrification, this is where you want to be. This is Part 1 of a new series in which I follow my own progress, designing and installing an electric turbo on my LS3 Camaro SS for gains upwards of 50% on a stock engine. Simply put, this is more cost-effective and safe per HP of added power than anything else you can do to your car right from the factory floor.
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Oh my that intro 😂
I love it 😆
I think a 15Kw PMAC belted to a super charger headunit would work pretty good same motors hobbyist use for electric motorcycle conversions
The power would be more than enough. I figure the challenge would rest on properly gearing it to spin at the correct speed to produce the boost levels you need and then finding a portable power supply that can deal with that much power. I'm using 2 very large lithium batteries and it can barely cut it. Also the BLDC controller can barely cut it so if you double the power you'd need to look into a different class of hardware to support the blower, but it would make a very nice blower indeed.
Thank you sir for making this video
Don't mention it. It was as much fun to make as I'm sure it is to view :)
Hey, you commented on my "Myth Busted" video. Mine was built by Thomas Knight too. Yes you are right, my videos were terrible and the batteries were almost dead (I figured out later lol)! Excellent work on your video!
My point certainly wasn't to say your video was terrible. In fact I thought it had great potential. Was only suggesting ways to pull the audience more by demonstration. Curious to know however... if you had the same builder as I, what were your performance numbers? Mass flow rate, electrical power, boost, HP/TQ, etc?
Nice unit!😊cheers from Australia!
love this project and this simple design . i need more information about motor power and tupe
also right turbo size to handle only 250 hp to 1litre bikes . if you help me i will be apprectiated .
sorry for my bad english .
Well my motor can handle 10kW but is only getting about 7 from the batteries and it's good for my LS3 (6.2L). For a 1L bike you really don't need a big blower or a powerful motor. If you check "Thomas Knight Superchargers", that guy built my custom S/C and he can build you a smaller one for your application. You should contact him for a quote.
Love the build.
Where did you source that motor/impeller?
Got any more updates? :D
I got the whole thing custom made from Thomas Knight Superchargers (link in description) although the turbo is a Garrett T76. I'm still working on getting everything ready to shoe-horn into the car but don't worry, when I have something significant to report out, I'll make a Part 2 video. Should be spring-summer when I'm able to get the physical install done. Not too long.
Wow a fan. Amazing.
A very powerful fan!
I don't want to say this is a bad concept because it isn't, but I feel this implementation is going to make everything much more difficult and a lot less reliable just to give it the term 'non-parasitic'.
There are companies that make alternators that could power this thing depending on your vehicle and the fitment. I see issues with trying to have a separate power source that will be much more difficult to deal with.
The difficulty of battery life, issues with reliability of a LiPo and ESC setups, and difficulty trying to have an ECU that can adjust tuning for not only the speed of the electric motor but also guaranteeing proper fueling for nitrous. These are all issues that make it not worth the hassle over a standardized turbo or supercharger. You are better off comparing this setup to nitrous than one of those and I forsee a much greater chance of you blowing your motor from this setup.
Again, all these major problems could be sorted by running it off a high output alternator, but wouldn't allow you to call it non-parasitic. It would cost more now, but will be much cheaper than the eventual motor failure from running this and nitrous on a stock motor. If the whole non-parasitic thing is your end goal, go for it. If your end goal is advancing the use of electric motors to increase power you should go back and rethink the whole design. You could eliminate the downsides by running this off a better alternator and completely eliminate the design issues you have with the intake and fitment.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks for your feedback. Many different things you brought up so I'll try to respond as concisely as possible. The batteries of course will wear out so there is a maintenance cost on those that an ALT would eliminate. Dealing with the fluctuating voltage delivery and the fueling for nitrous is a bit of a pain but totally doable if you know how to tune your ECU. I realize many people don't but there are tables that will address the nitrous for example and the voltage from the battery can be compensated for by increasing the controller's duty cycle, which I will do in my controller. Still you have a point about this being sort of "niche". The biggest advantage though, and the entire reason for doing this in the first place, is that by cutting out the parasitic losses you really are making more power than ANY conventional blown setup before having to change internals. The power consumed in either crank torque or exhaust backpressure for normal setups, lowers the HP ceiling that the parts can handle safely and also the fuel system. WIthout that strain on the engine, you have free headroom and that makes ESC a special case where you can always beat out your competition, provided you have the same engine mods or lack thereof.
No alternator can put out enough juice.. it has to run of fast drain batteries and slowly recharge when not in boost.
There is a company out there that makes electric superchargers for smaller engines.. do a search.. cleetus mcfarland tested them.. it works.. will give you some ideas.. looking good so far...
Are you referring to TorqueAmp? It seems legit. I think it's true they cater to smaller engines as most of the dyno graphs I could pull up quickly show modest gains in the 100-200 HP regime. Not sure if they make anything that would feed a V8 though. At the time I started planning for this project, there was nothing at all on the market except this 1 guy I got mine from and his work was all custom. That's probably why the 2 units I had possession of were very different animals but both were oversized compared to what I have seen commercially. Still, the size I have now is what you might consider small and still packs a punch at 10 kW so it should work well for the LS3. I just need to upgrade my batteries some time down the road to 7S and possibly the controller too so it can handle 400A.
@@ChrisCamaro yeah the torque amp.
I like your check valve for boost arrangement too. I considered doing something like that for mine as i felt the out of boost performance was taking a slight hit due to the intercooler and charge pipes..
If i could make a suggestion, looking at your diagram youre drawing the boosted air from above the exhaust manifold.. youre going to get really high iats that way. If you relocate the unit low and towards the from of the engine bay itll help a lot. Also hest wrap the coldside in the engine bay.. mine saw 20 degree colder iats this way.. itll make you feel better.
I respect that your doing your own thing. I did the same when i fabbed and added rear mount turbos to my 5th gen..
@@yolofullsend That's a good point! When I planned that layout I was only thinking about where things would fit but since I didn't have the CAD for everything under the hood I may have been a bit conservative. Maybe there's a way I can jam things in there and get the filter away from the headers. Will look into that. Thanks!
How much
This one? Like 1500 bucks'ish. But they're all custom so you have to get it quoted for your car application.
I’m scared lol I’m gonna blow my motor
Garrett already has an electric turbo in the works. It will be available end of the year. 1 Hour installed compared to 8.
do you have a link? I'd like to check that out
Ready for part 2?
I'm trying hard man. This Covid thing has really messed up local businesses and it seems everybody I call is having a hard time of it and pushing out lead times for simple fabrication (which apparently has little to no money in it). Don't worry though. While I persist with the installation I will make a video on the control system because that's a huge part of this build. Look forward to that in the near future!
Torq amp you can buy now.
I just saw a video of Torqamp at SEMA and they were saying they could get 30% torque increase on a 6.0L V12. Even if the product is legit and works on smaller engines, kind of makes me doubt their integrity if they're blatantly lying like that. Still, I'm sure other companies will follow and the competition will be good for evolving the technology.