Mate, this is frankly astonishing. At several points, I thought "no way is that going to be square". firstly, I was sure that the frame wasn't going to be perfectly square, which would throw everything else out....then I was sure that your head stock construction wouldn't be perfectly square....and so on, right until the end. You must have some master craftsman level skill to pull all of that together and for it to work so well. And the double kick in the balls to us newbies is how fucking great it looks too! I watched the "Lets Learn Something" video on making a lathe and I thought the same thing about his construction....you guys must have some sort of extra instinct or special power to be able to put raw steel tube and plate together and it all end up square... Bravo!!
I'm glad you like it 😂Nah, but seriously - everyone knows it can't be PERFECTLY square. But at this point I think it came up pretty great. Measuring the angle between the spindle axis and Z axis in vertical and horizontal direction there is no visible angle in the horizontal plane and verticaly there is about 0,02 degree. I've spent some time adjusting it and I wasn't able to make it closer to zero. This makes about 0,08mm difference on the whole working space (using a dial gauge for measurements) if you measure the diameter of a 30h6 cylinder. Runout on the spindle - 0,03mm - pretty good in my opinion for such bearings used IMO. Let's learn something inspired me to make such a machine and I'm really happy with it - it's not perfect but for hobby use in my workshop it does the job. Thanks for watching! 😄
New subscriber here. I acquired an older lathe that was cobbled together from a couple other ones just so I could have one to make parts for my small engine repair business on. I deal with lots of obsolete motors and machines. I need to modify my lathe to work wit a stepper motor such as the one you have here in this build. By the way Fantastic work my friend. I am recovering from a horrific accident that happened a little over 18 months ago on my 1957 Harley. I can walk now but it is time to get back to work and start the business soon after. The ability to program will be indispensable. Thank you, John
Делал лично 2 фрезерных станка, первый рабочее поле 500х800х100, второй рабочее поле 1500х1200х250. Делал на тяжелых 90-х профилях BOSCH Rexroth, ставил SKF ШВП и рельсы, т.е лучшее, что можно купить за адекватные деньги, не китайчатина. Так вот, уверенно могу утверждать, что промышленные чугунные станки будут и лучше и точнее, но немного дороже, раза в 2 всего то. Потому рекомендую при необходимости покупать только промышленные станки, а самоделки это чисто для души, потому что нравится мастерить.
great build and nice color choice, my tools are all Sublime Green Metallic. I didn't think a homemade lathe would be a good idea due to complexity but this shows that if you build it as a CNC with a digital motor from the ground up then you may omit the complexity of speed changes and threading gear boxes. I will try this myself rather than converting a Grizzly lathe
Thanks! This is exactly right - the complexity of a gearbox would make it much harder. But a simple VFD / encoder and CNC controller does the job just right :) But stiffness might be the problem. You should consider converting a Grizzly lathe with adding the CNC aspect which might be a good idea
Lo importante de tu proyecto es que te lo contruiste tu mismo..que aprendiste muchas cosas en el proceso y que siempre puedes mejorar aquellas cosas que con el tiempo veas que puedes debes cambiar..ademas de la experiencia adquirida que te permitira acometer otros proyectos siempre mejorando..un saludo desde españa y gracias por tu tiempo..feliz y prospero año nuevo
Gracias por tus palabras. Realmente disfruté este proyecto y creo que tiene mucha experiencia. Con suerte, estos videos ayudarán a otras personas a comprender este tema y dar un ejemplo para hacer sus propias compilaciones. Gracias por apoyar. ¡Intentaré dar lo mejor de mí en proyectos futuros! Saludos desde Polonia y les deseo un feliz y productivo año. edit: Y muchas gracias por compartir y apoyar. ¡Significa mucho para mí! ¡Saludos!
@@GBWM_CNC creo que lo logico es apoyar a aquellos que como tu miran de aportar a la comunidad sin tonterias ni humo por eso apoyo tu canal..un saludo desde españa
Patience, desire to complete build, focusing on skill set and good knowledge. It is you type of individuals who create and show that is joyful reason for spending productivity and time viewing You Tube. This makes me pray that some day myself or my off-spring will be as productive as you all have shown us. Awesome job and a great project. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🌟⚡
That’s a beast of a lathe. You’re going to need a forklift just to move that thing. If you ever have to haul that beast somewhere, you’re going to need a box truck with a lift gate. I’d ask if you had any plans with dimensions for everything so I could build my own, but I think it would be too big for anything I’d want to fabricate. You did a great job fabricating it.
well it's a lathe ruclips.net/user/postUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.
Я видео такого характера смотрю на ускоренном, а тут в обычном режиме с удовольствием крутой станок получился!!!все круто есть нюансы на усовершенствование , и мне кажется массы не хватает, но в случае с трубной конструкцией все шикарно!!!!!! желаю творческих успехов!!!!
A lot of hours condensed into just over an hour, end result looks great. My only thought maybe the tailstock may be a weak point, a lot of overhang may give rigidity problems, you could help this slightly by putting in a diagonal piece from the tip to the base although the most stiffnes is needed in the front to back plane.
Haha, it was a lot of work indeed. You're right - the tailstock isn't as rigid as it could be. A diagonal piece of metal could be quite necessary here. I''m really glad I'm getting so many comments about what upgrades I could do here. When I'll have some spare time I'll think about making some upgrades on the lathe making it more usable. Thank you!
Amazing work! Very cleaver and congrats on your build. Appreciate your filming it for our benefit. Just one question - roughly speaking, how many total hours would you say that you spent on this project?
Hai fatto un lavoro incredibile e faticoso. Grande impegno e passione per la meccanica moderna (cnc), sei un ottimo carpentiere metallico. Ti faccio i miei complimenti. Tuttavia devo dirti che il bisturi e il coltello da carne servono entrambi per tagliare; ma sono sicuro che non ti faresti fare mai un bypass con il secondo attrezzo. Il Tornio è una meravigliosa macchina, frutto di millenni di esperienza. Nella meccanica di precisione( e il tornio è una di queste) l'elemento essenziale è la rigidezza e tu sai a cosa mi riferisco. Comunque grazie per la simpatica condivisione.
Sono consapevole che questa non è una macchina molto rigida. MA considerando che può tagliare passaggi di luce, può fare il suo lavoro per un piccolo laboratorio domestico aumentando notevolmente le mie capacità di lavorazione a casa. grazie per la visione! 😁
He clearly works at a factory building these. He just made a home version. All the parts are free. Because you can buy one cheaper. However I respect you doing so. I would too if I could
Craftsmanship to the highest standard,fabulous work mate,actually better than some of the factory built lathe machines.Definitely gonna give it a try to build one in my workshop,just to be away from the nagging wife.👍👍👍👍
Un Grand Plaisir à voir le Travail avancer et le Projet se concrétiser. La réalisation est de qualité avec la précision au rdv et un soucis du détail. La go-pro dans le casque et des petites touches funs sont bienvenues ~;) Merci du partage et de toutes les sources fournies ! Un Grand Succès à la Clef !! ~;) Hate de découvrir tous tes autres contenus et suivre tes actualités !
Thank you! From the basic design to the finished machine it was like 5-6 months - during my free time after work - not every day though. I've got much inspiration from other people posting videos on youtube which made this built much easier. This community is really great and helpful.
A wonderful home made build machine, i only have 1 bad point, The tail stock, your losing a lot of space, i would revise it and make it shorter and have it so you can adjust the length (wind in and out ) apart from that a big thank you for making a great video with so much detail.
This is really cool. Just curious but I wonder if you could increase stability by filling the hollow metal with a rock and epoxy mix to add weight and rigidity. But I have no idea if that would actually do anything, awesome machine. Will probably try to make my won one day.(can't right now, no place to put it :/_)
Epoxy - rock mix would be a good idea for vibration damping. But at this moment i need it to be mobile as i have lack of place as well so sometimes i have to move it a bit and mass wouldnt help here 😁
This is a fantastic effort, but without seeming negative I have a few concerns. You should use tapered bearings on the spindle so you can take out the runout. Alignment of the saddle to spindle seems to be missed? Mounting the rails should probably be the last job so you can ensure true parallel. A lot of cutting force is going to be on the rails pushing on one side and lifting the other. I think a heavier flat guideway would be better. It’s worth noting good lathes have weight in the saddle and stand for a reason, which would also help your design.
You're right. This is actually my second machine I ever made and I know it's missing some things. It had to be as cheap as possible which lead to the UCF bearings instead of tapered ones (the main goal was to make this machine without having access to an other lathe or milling machine). Same with the rails - next time I would definitely add a bit $$ and buy at least the hiwin style rails. To sum up - I know there are some mistakes, but in the end the lathe does what it should for really small amount of money (in my opinion 😁). Thanks for the comment.
Hey Man, you truly did an amazing work...!!! Thank you to sharing it with us. I would like to ask you about the software you have used to make a 3d model and adjust it according your need. Keep going ....👍
Выглядит здорово! Остались вопросы: 1. Какое биение патрона получилось? 2. Какая жесткость станины на отгиб? на канале Special Instrument Designs есть методика измерения. 3. Что получилось по стоимости? 4. Какие недостатки после года использования? Поделитесь, пожалуйста, результатами
1) Биение шпинделя 0,03 м. 2) У меня не было возможности тщательно изучить жесткость системы. Может быть, когда-нибудь будет шанс. 3) Стоимость около 1300 долларов (примерно 2 года назад) 4) К недостаткам можно отнести конечно низкую жесткость системы, при токарной обработке стали не всегда достаточно, но для небольших гаражных работ сойдет. Все работает как в начале, потому что пользуюсь изредка, поэтому не изнашивается.
@@GBWM_CNC Биение шпинделя 0,03 мм Исправьте. А почему патрон bison не поставили? Он же у вас в стране производится и по качеству, считается лучше, чем китайский.
Es extraordinario tu torno, es mejor que cualquier torno moderno de fabrica que haya visto, fue un gusto y gran placer el poder ver tu video haciendo tu arte. siempre lo he dicho; quien puede se divierte!!!
@@GBWM_CNC I don't doubt it brother! Quality content has the tendency to draw a lot of enthusiastic creators and people that just like to watch this stuff, we share stuff, you know... ;)
Ottima realizzazione "Fai Da Te", ottima capacità e abilità nel lavoro manuale di costruzione e di messa a punto. Dato che il progetto è arrivato ad un buon livello migliorerei lo schema dei cuscinetti testa mandrino sostituendoli con un canotto e cuscinetti a contatto obliquo in bagno d'olio per avere più capacità di carico, silenziosità e precisione. In futuro si potrebbe migliorare anche la testa porta utensile ma questo ultimo aspetto e utile solo se si vuole aumentare la capacità produttiva. In ogni modo complimenti per l'ottima realizzazione.
Grazie! Sono contento che ti piaccia il mio lavoro. Apprezzo i tuoi suggerimenti: li prenderò in considerazione quando realizzerò un nuovo tornio CNC che è previsto. Ma questa volta probabilmente userò un mandrino di una grande fresatrice manuale.
Lots of work into building your own lathe, well done. Few tips to improve. Weld a couple of rods in the head and fill the head with epoxy granite to reduce chatter from the head. Second fill the tubes on the bed also with epoxy granite as your lathe does not have enough mass currently and can clearly see from the video you are having chattering issues from lack of rigidity. It should improve the cut quality by a significant amount. The apron will be a lot of extra work to improve rigidity as you will need an extra 3 rail because you didn't go with linear rails that causes small movement in the apron from using round rod rails. Other than that this was a lot of work. Not a lot of people build their own lathe.
Thank you for your comment. You're right with the chatter. But filling with epoxy cant be done at this moment as i need it to be at least a bit mobile. But I'm planning on some improvement on it. Especially when it comes to stffiness. Thank you for tips!
Wooow! I was like a boy with his favorite cartoon the entire hour!, gorgeous! A few questions: how much did this project costed? How much time did you invest building it? Would you share the 3D model? Thank you for such a beatiful video. Keep it up man!
This project was made like 2 years ago. It cost about $1300 back then and about 3 months for spending my free time after work. I share all 3D models / plans I have with patrons of this channel. Feel free to join if you'd like to take a look :) Thanks for watching!
Fantastic build process. It looked like you had an auto-darkening shield for your camera on some of the welding footage. Spare welding mask? Great idea LoL. A few things confused me. Why such a large motor for this lathe? I read what you said about why you built the headstock with those bearings, but I figured that you'd quick be turning a new spindle and converting to preloaded tapered bearings. The next thing was the size of your cross slide and carriage. How big a swing do you have? In the end it seemed like a waste of expensive precision plate. As things proceeded early on I was thinking you were building a larger lathe and then was confused by the Z axis rails. The cleverest ideas though.. grease fittings! Yess!. A tool post and collet chuck side by side! Another great idea for working small parts. Ok.. so you are making some use of the extra travel. LoL. Since you're all CNC perhaps this is more useful being you can go back to exactly center the collet chuck. I did notice your first cut of the spindle mounting plate your tool was way off vertically. Then you fixed it later in that sequence. 😂 I was wondering too about the bed when saw the C channels being welded. I was thinking.. that's NOT flat enough by any means. I was waiting to see your "flatten the bed" sequence with you scraping the bed flat and checking it against the spindle axis. I was expecting a flat plate or at least scraping the bed to get it close. Alas, aluminum rails will never be rigid enough so it probably didn't matter that much in the end. Still a heck of a build. Congrats! I'm contemplating something similar. I was thinking DROs and steppers. Are you calibrating the CNC software off of the limit switches? Is that sufficient for accuracy? I'm very curious about that because you aren't using synchronous motors. CNC without DROs would save quite a bit on the budget! Thanks!
Oh, that was an detailed analysis! So... I have dark welding glasses just for the filming purpose. That motor was so big to have higher torque on lower RPM for threading while using a VFD (without no additional gear-reductions). At first I was about to make a new spindle soon after making this one... But after figuring out how many things I'd like to change - I decided to make a completly new lathe with the experience gained with the first one. Yeah - the precision plate was quite but - mainly to have the additional tools chuck. Btw you're very observant! Yes - I had to adjust the height after the first cut, lol! And you're exactly right - those rails were not rigid enough to work very well in the end but that was quite good to mount them on the C-beam surface. But in the end the precision on the whole length was really good to be honest (in my opinion). About calibrating - depends on your accuracy needs but I'd rather set the work coordinates from your stock after the first manual pass (that's how I do it). After that I'm set for what I needed. The stepper motors with the right drive setup should work well unless you're aiming for microns - then you will need some kind of DROs th chase the microns which run away for example when your ballscrew heats up. There are many variables there! :)
Te ha quedado genial el torno, ha sido un placer verte construirlo. Lo que no entiendo bien es que hace un mandalorian tomando mate jajaja, saludos desde Argentina.
Great work, but is it all controlled by PC? Even the filleting routines? you give him the shape of the piece and he does everything? Congratulations,.. very good!!
Yes it is controlled by PC with LinuxCNC. All the motion is controlled by it - any pre-designed part which can be made by a lathe. Glad you like it! :)
Love the build. What metals is it capable or turning? Also does it support manual? I didn't see any handles. Finally are there instructions and BOM with the step files, or is it more of break down the file and watch the videos?
It does in aluminium pretty well and soft steel like s235 with shallow passes. It supports "manual" but it works like - press arrows to go where you want. There are no handles but you can controll it manually from the keyboard. At this moment there is only a step file for it as I can't find time to make fine instructions for it. Maybe during this holidays I'll have some free time to make it.
In using a closed loop stepper motor to get the sync with the other stepper motors (closed loop) if using a a non-synced spindle drive motor.. of course the 'sensor stepper motor should be configured not to be power driven and the fault line not used and you may want to size the stepper to be big enough for slow machining.. and install a brake system of using a milling attachment on the lathe post.
@@GBWM_CNC thanks 2 you my friend, the world needs more of US ...#engineers will save the world and you're a part of that reality by inspiring other 2 build it for themselves. -ER
@@erx88 I love sharing my workshop experiences with others 😁
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Lo que saco en claro es que para construir una máquina industrial se necesitan varias máquinas industriales, además de varias habilidades profesionales. Tiene sentido, pero esto es DIY extremo :D
Do you think the carriers make to much chatter or would you go with a different kind in hide sight, to turn the chuck on, for what it has to carry, the inertia and speed it turns or do you think what you have is good, even better then you thought, your thoughts would be appreciated thanks brother
Next time if I make a next lathe (probably i will do) I would use shaped linear rails like the HGR series for example - these are MUCH more rigid for a bit more money. But it will be worth it. The bearings for the spindle are not the best idea too - roller bearings would be nice with a stiff housing. It would prevent a lot of chatter. The downside of roller bearings is that you've got to have a lathe to make a proper spindle shaft (I didn't have at that time so I had to use usuall pipe or pay a lot for making a shaft and the purpose of this project was to make it cheap :D ). These are my thoughts after making it. But anyway if I make light cuts it allows me to make a lot of operations.
Incredible work! Can you please roughly tell what is the cost price for all the metal (sheets, bars, angles) you used. I think in my country buying Lathe will be cheaper than all the materials for assembling by yourself.
About ~$1300 when I was building it. Now more for sure. But for me the most important thing was to learn things. Now I have much more knowledge and a lathe which is maybe not the most efficient one but for my small workshop work - it does the job at this moment :)
metal that you are using for this lathe is either structural steel or some other type of steel which is not adequate for machine tools due to vibration dumping
@@nikolaradakovic5050 I thought about it actually. There are some other small upgrades I could make too. If I will go for upgrading the machine - I'll do that definitely. But I also think about making a new lathe with consideration of the things I know now that I didn't know back then.
@@GBWM_CNCI could recommend you some approach that will make your lathe building a cumulative experience for other machine tool projects. Try with Yoshimi Ito modular machine tool design
Woahhh amazing! Worth it to watch aside from movie 👍🙏 you can inspired many through your video, it’s educational as well. Really amazing you do it alone! 🙏👍🇵🇭🇲🇾
Me alegro de que te guste. No hice buenos planes, pero el modelo CAD de este torno está disponible para los miembros de soporte del canal. No tengo ningún curso, solo comparto lo que sé aquí con la gente. ¡salud!
I'm glad you like it! I don't have exact plans to build it but I've shared some files with my patrons - 3d models / some raw drawings for the prototype etc.
man, outstanding, what is your background? like college/university program or trades school where you went into? just curious what it takes to learn something like that, you gotta have technical background for sure
I've been at a technical school and now studying technical engineering. But let's be honest - most of what I learned is from my own practice / internet. The school just introduced me to the topic a bit.
Good work. Thank you for your efforts, everything is great. My request from you is where and how can I access the drawing files of your lathe. I want to do the same. I would be very happy if you share the link. Thank you very much in advance.
Notes to myself about building my own lathe: - Myself, don't try to build a bed from square tubing, the tolerances will be to much. - Myself, don't use these pre-fitted bearing-blocks on spindle, they are noisy, even when brand new. - Myself, don't use these linear-rail-thingies (amzon specials), they are noisy and rough. - Myself, don't use a 2KW motor, if that thing doesn't kill you, then the high voltage will (400V). - Myself, don't buy a precision aluminium plate and then hammer on it, it won't be "precision" any longer. - Myself, f$!k that computer-shit, I wouldn't know what to do with that (to old to learn). - Myself, ... SHUT UP, don't spoil the fun for this lad here who must be very proud of his creation ! Okay, but uhm ... Myself, don't drink weird juice from funny wooden bowl, it might change your opinion about "Notes to myself " ! Note to young lad (GBWM): Hey Mister, the generated chips is something to be proud of, because they are the evidence that you have been working hard. Don't try to hide them with some weird "guards". Besides you need to clean the whole lathe anyways, so a few chips here and there wont matter. And I finally do also have something nice to say: I like that idea of a fixed shaft in "Bohrerhalter" = Simple and efficient. That would be good enough as my tail-stock (for my intended purposes). The end-result of your lathe is really cool 👍 Wir sprechen auch Deutsch 😁, wofür steht "GBWM" ?
I'll take this comment as a suggestion that i'm crazy. Agreed, haha! The notes are quite good though. I'm really proud about the chips and yup - it was a lot of work. GBWM bedeutet - GB bedeutet mein Geheimnis und WM bedeutet Schweißbearbeitung (Welding Machining) :)
Enjoyed this one, kudos for the editing and sound effects too. The lack of washers did trigger me though. The HUGE spindle drive motor made me chuckle, but hey use what you got I guess....🤔😳😏😏🇬🇧
parallelism was checked with a dial indicator attached to one of the linear bearings and I measured the opposite rod if the distance is the same on the whole range of motion. The straightness - you mean if the height is the same everywhere? if yes - here is the problem. I trusted the c-beam (on the Z axis) and there are little off-sets sadly. The Z axis was mounted on a flat face milled plate so it should be right :)
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Die verwendeten Flanschlager sind einfach Kugellager richtig? Ich habe bei meinen das Problem dass ich in bestimmten Positionen Spiel habe und man klackern hört. Welche Lager hast du verbaut?
¡Gracias! No hice una lista de materiales, pero he compartido todos los planes que estaba usando para construir esto con mis seguidores del canal y mecenas en patreon
Hi Again does your lathe machine steel with a good finish . I am very interested in building one if it works well. I dont want to spend all that time and money if it will not turn steel . Many Thanks. Love your work.
Answering your question - it turns steel but if you're looking for tight tolerances or surface finish then it's not the way to go. You need a stiffer machine. I've already made some tight tolerance bored holes for bearings but I had to take a lot of passes to get good tolerance to fit a bearing. It's a cool machine to have for hobby work but if you want to be efficient - you have to look for something more rigid.
doesn,t those linear bearings make the lathe shatter like hel ? i mean, there is totaly no demping effect, like a standard lathe from cast iron and a lot of mass ?
Probably the linear bearings are the problem. BUT - there depends a lot on the feeds and speeds, depth of cut etc. I was able to cut steel on this lathe with lower parameters and aluminium with 0,5mm DOC and 0,2mm/rev and cutting speed ~120m/min which worked pretty well with almost no chatter. But you're right - there should be more mass and something filling out the sections not mentioning the linear rails as guideways. This had to be a CHEAP project and actually it was and I'm able to turn soft steel and aluminium at home which was my main object. Thank you for your input - appreciate your comment :)
Wyświetlił mi się dzisiaj Twoj filmik. Stwierdziłem zo obejrzę jeszcze raz 😁. Jak uważasz z perspektywy czasu czy warto było robić taką tokarkę CNC (pomijając kwestie wyświetleń na YT które sa ogromne 😅). Dużo nią toczysz? Jak to faktycznie jest z dokładnością. Tez zastanawiałem się czy nie zrobić ale ostatecznie kupiłem jakąś starą Koreanka konwencjonalną. Teraz trafiają mi się tematy gdzie gdy tworzę jakąś maszyne muszę toczyć po kilkadziesiąt takich samych tulejek.
Od czasu jak wykonałem tą tokarkę to używam jej raz do czasu do różnych projektów. Jak chodzi o dokładność to jest różnie - jak coś potrzebuję, aby było wykonane w setkach to muszę niestety wykonać przejścia zgrubnie a potem już suwmiarką sprawdzam i wykonuję kilka przejść wykańczających na wymiar. Jako tako aluminium obrabia całkiem przyjemnie a stale to raczej tylko te miękkie i raczej na niskiej głębokości skrawania. Także raczej sporadycznie używam ale póki co działa. Raczej, jeżeli się spodziewasz dokładności, to kupiłbym jakąś używaną tokarkę CNC i wykonał ewentualnie na niej retrofit na jakieś aktualne sterowanie, przerobił jakąś manualną bądź wykonał samoróbkę, ale koniecznie z prowadnicami kształtowymi np. typu HGR oraz na odpowiednich łożyskach np. stożkowych. Ja wkrótce będę robił nową tokarkę bazując na doświadczeniach z tej tutaj. Zobaczymy, czy wyjdzie lepiej :)
@@GBWM_CNC ja głównie stal czarna. No właśnie te prowadnice na tych wałkach to raczej marnej jakości. Co jest przyczyną że stal opornie idzie? Słaby silnik? A te silniki krokowe dałyby rade przy lepszej konstrukcji czy raczej myślisz o jakiś servach?
@@marcinranoszek64 sztywność maszyny głównie. Te łożyska i prowadnice co prawda pozwalają toczyć ale dosyć skutecznie obniżają dokładność. Chcąc zebrać więcej materiału na raz maszyna wpada w wibracje i zarówno powierzchnia obrabiana jak i wymiary po prostu uciekają. Jeżeli trzeba wytoczyć coś mało dokładnego to w automacie daje radę ale jak coś dokładniejszego to po prostu jej używam jako manualnej sterując z klawiatury osiami, haha! :) Silnik zwłaszcza jeżeli pracuje na wyższych narzędziami węglikowymi to daje radę. Gorzej przy HSS-ach bo wtedy mniejsza moc przy niższej prędkości ale w sumie zdarzyło mi się go zdusić może z 3 razy od początku jak ją zbudowałem. Silniki krokowe raczej dają radę przy powiedzmy takich lższejszych przejściach jakie z reguły wykonuję - prędzej się konstrukcja ugina niż te silniki się poddają. Raz mi się udało stracić kroki - przy próbie wiercenia dużym wiertłem z dostawki do wierteł. Ale do kolejnej tokarki już udało mi się dosyć tanio znaleźć serwa więc pójdę w tym kierunku.
@@miwarrr2248 Depends on your language. Should be next to the red "subscribe" button (on the left). Also I share these on my patreon (look up for GBWM on patreon dot com).
Czy myslisz ze lepszym rozwiazaniem byłoby silnik elektryczny dać poza ramą? Silnik z pewnością generuje jakieś wibracje co pewnie wpływa na stabilność i dokładność. Konstrukcja nie jest pewnie zbyt ciężka jak w przypadku duzych obrabiarek.
Hmm ciekawe. Chodziłoby o zamontowanie go np. na oddzielnej konstrukcji / podłodze / ścianie? Sam w sumie silnik chyba nie wytwarza zbyt dużo wibracji w porównaniu do silników spalinowych na przykład :D Fakt faktem konstrukcja nie jest mega ciężka ale sama praca silnika chyba ma stosunkowo niski wpływ na dokładność obróbki. Bardziej rodzaj łożysk, sztywność konstrukcji, rodzaj prowadnic itd
Mate, this is frankly astonishing. At several points, I thought "no way is that going to be square". firstly, I was sure that the frame wasn't going to be perfectly square, which would throw everything else out....then I was sure that your head stock construction wouldn't be perfectly square....and so on, right until the end. You must have some master craftsman level skill to pull all of that together and for it to work so well. And the double kick in the balls to us newbies is how fucking great it looks too!
I watched the "Lets Learn Something" video on making a lathe and I thought the same thing about his construction....you guys must have some sort of extra instinct or special power to be able to put raw steel tube and plate together and it all end up square... Bravo!!
I'm glad you like it 😂Nah, but seriously - everyone knows it can't be PERFECTLY square. But at this point I think it came up pretty great. Measuring the angle between the spindle axis and Z axis in vertical and horizontal direction there is no visible angle in the horizontal plane and verticaly there is about 0,02 degree. I've spent some time adjusting it and I wasn't able to make it closer to zero. This makes about 0,08mm difference on the whole working space (using a dial gauge for measurements) if you measure the diameter of a 30h6 cylinder. Runout on the spindle - 0,03mm - pretty good in my opinion for such bearings used IMO. Let's learn something inspired me to make such a machine and I'm really happy with it - it's not perfect but for hobby use in my workshop it does the job. Thanks for watching! 😄
all the parts and metal must have still cost a small fortune, no ? do u think it was worth it, or was it more about the journey?
New subscriber here. I acquired an older lathe that was cobbled together from a couple other ones just so I could have one to make parts for my small engine repair business on. I deal with lots of obsolete motors and machines. I need to modify my lathe to work wit a stepper motor such as the one you have here in this build. By the way Fantastic work my friend. I am recovering from a horrific accident that happened a little over 18 months ago on my 1957 Harley. I can walk now but it is time to get back to work and start the business soon after. The ability to program will be indispensable. Thank you, John
Good luck with your work sir and wish you much health. Thank you for watching :)
I think you're the first person I watch on RUclips that actually knows how to use and weld accurately with a migwelder😂
Great video
I'm glad to hear such compliment :)
Делал лично 2 фрезерных станка, первый рабочее поле 500х800х100, второй рабочее поле 1500х1200х250.
Делал на тяжелых 90-х профилях BOSCH Rexroth, ставил SKF ШВП и рельсы, т.е лучшее, что можно купить за адекватные деньги, не китайчатина.
Так вот, уверенно могу утверждать, что промышленные чугунные станки будут и лучше и точнее, но немного дороже, раза в 2 всего то.
Потому рекомендую при необходимости покупать только промышленные станки, а самоделки это чисто для души, потому что нравится мастерить.
Точно. Знания, полученные в ходе такого развлечения, бесценны.
Man even in your description the level of detail and care u took just with that!!! Your build is exceptional keep inspiring excellence !!!!!!
Haha, I'm glad you like it 😁
You are incredible and having a fantastic skill.Even I am a machinist but still salute you,bro.God bless you and have a nice day.
Thank you! I'm glad you like it. Have a fantastic day! 😁
great build and nice color choice, my tools are all Sublime Green Metallic. I didn't think a homemade lathe would be a good idea due to complexity but this shows that if you build it as a CNC with a digital motor from the ground up then you may omit the complexity of speed changes and threading gear boxes. I will try this myself rather than converting a Grizzly lathe
Thanks! This is exactly right - the complexity of a gearbox would make it much harder. But a simple VFD / encoder and CNC controller does the job just right :) But stiffness might be the problem. You should consider converting a Grizzly lathe with adding the CNC aspect which might be a good idea
color is the most important propery of a lathe
@@CleoKawisha-sy5xt hell yea
Автору большое уважение, думаю за это время он понял все свои промахи в конструкции. Как получение опыта в слесарном деле отлично 👍
Это определенно правильно!
@@GBWM_CNC не могу не согласиться , если есть много времени , решение самое то ! Удачи и успехов в начинаниях !
Lo importante de tu proyecto es que te lo contruiste tu mismo..que aprendiste muchas cosas en el proceso y que siempre puedes mejorar aquellas cosas que con el tiempo veas que puedes debes cambiar..ademas de la experiencia adquirida que te permitira acometer otros proyectos siempre mejorando..un saludo desde españa y gracias por tu tiempo..feliz y prospero año nuevo
Gracias por tus palabras. Realmente disfruté este proyecto y creo que tiene mucha experiencia. Con suerte, estos videos ayudarán a otras personas a comprender este tema y dar un ejemplo para hacer sus propias compilaciones. Gracias por apoyar. ¡Intentaré dar lo mejor de mí en proyectos futuros! Saludos desde Polonia y les deseo un feliz y productivo año.
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Y muchas gracias por compartir y apoyar. ¡Significa mucho para mí! ¡Saludos!
@@GBWM_CNC creo que lo logico es apoyar a aquellos que como tu miran de aportar a la comunidad sin tonterias ni humo por eso apoyo tu canal..un saludo desde españa
Patience, desire to complete build, focusing on skill set and good knowledge. It is you type of individuals who create and show that is joyful reason for spending productivity and time viewing You Tube. This makes me pray that some day myself or my off-spring will be as productive as you all have shown us. Awesome job and a great project. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🌟⚡
Haha thank you! I'm really glad you like mu work! Really appreciate your comment ☺😁☺
I'm blown away by this build, great job!
Thank you! 😁
That’s a beast of a lathe. You’re going to need a forklift just to move that thing. If you ever have to haul that beast somewhere, you’re going to need a box truck with a lift gate. I’d ask if you had any plans with dimensions for everything so I could build my own, but I think it would be too big for anything I’d want to fabricate. You did a great job fabricating it.
Haha! 😉
Станок просто бомба!!! Такие творения конечно вдохновляют на подвиги!!!
Ха-ха, я рад, что вам нравится моя работа! :) Постараюсь в скором времени поделиться более интересными сборками! :)
well it's a lathe ruclips.net/user/postUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.
Did the blue loctite take the play out??
Я видео такого характера смотрю на ускоренном, а тут в обычном режиме с удовольствием крутой станок получился!!!все круто есть нюансы на усовершенствование , и мне кажется массы не хватает, но в случае с трубной конструкцией все шикарно!!!!!! желаю творческих успехов!!!!
Я рад, что тебе понравилось видео 😁😁
A lot of hours condensed into just over an hour, end result looks great. My only thought maybe the tailstock may be a weak point, a lot of overhang may give rigidity problems, you could help this slightly by putting in a diagonal piece from the tip to the base although the most stiffnes is needed in the front to back plane.
Haha, it was a lot of work indeed. You're right - the tailstock isn't as rigid as it could be. A diagonal piece of metal could be quite necessary here. I''m really glad I'm getting so many comments about what upgrades I could do here. When I'll have some spare time I'll think about making some upgrades on the lathe making it more usable. Thank you!
Amazing work! Very cleaver and congrats on your build. Appreciate your filming it for our benefit. Just one question - roughly speaking, how many total hours would you say that you spent on this project?
Hard to answer - i didn't count that exactly. Maybe like 250-300 hours.
Good to see you using the same metal-cutting technique as This Old Tony.
He's got the best unique techniques
Excelente!!! Mejor aún cuando preparas el MATE! Saludos desde Misiones Argentina
Me encanta la yerba mate de Argentina 😍😍. ¡Saludos desde Polonia! 😎
Hai fatto un lavoro incredibile e faticoso. Grande impegno e passione per la meccanica moderna (cnc), sei un ottimo carpentiere metallico. Ti faccio i miei complimenti. Tuttavia devo dirti che il bisturi e il coltello da carne servono entrambi per tagliare; ma sono sicuro che non ti faresti fare mai un bypass con il secondo attrezzo. Il Tornio è una meravigliosa macchina, frutto di millenni di esperienza. Nella meccanica di precisione( e il tornio è una di queste) l'elemento essenziale è la rigidezza e tu sai a cosa mi riferisco. Comunque grazie per la simpatica condivisione.
Sono consapevole che questa non è una macchina molto rigida. MA considerando che può tagliare passaggi di luce, può fare il suo lavoro per un piccolo laboratorio domestico aumentando notevolmente le mie capacità di lavorazione a casa. grazie per la visione! 😁
Sensacional, trabalho muito bem cuidado em todas as etapas, congratulações.
Fico feliz que goste! obrigado por assistir!😁
He clearly works at a factory building these. He just made a home version. All the parts are free. Because you can buy one cheaper. However I respect you doing so. I would too if I could
Craftsmanship to the highest standard,fabulous work mate,actually better than some of the factory built lathe machines.Definitely gonna give it a try to build one in my workshop,just to be away from the nagging wife.👍👍👍👍
Suggest you sort out the reason for the nagging or you'll soon be paying for a divorce.
Super staklytės, geriau už gamyklines
O projeto.esteve todo tempo.em sua cabeça. Inteligência prática. 👏👏👏
Fantastic!!...Loved the build!..Loved the finished result!...Loved the video!
And well done, looks the business 👍
I'm glad you like it 😎😎
Un Grand Plaisir à voir le Travail avancer et le Projet se concrétiser. La réalisation est de qualité avec la précision au rdv et un soucis du détail. La go-pro dans le casque et des petites touches funs sont bienvenues ~;)
Merci du partage et de toutes les sources fournies !
Un Grand Succès à la Clef !! ~;)
Hate de découvrir tous tes autres contenus et suivre tes actualités !
Je suis vraiment content d'avoir attiré votre attention :) j'espère que vous trouverez ici ce qui vous intéresse :)
Well done, that is a hard project to go from start to completion. Very nice build. How long did it take you to do this project?
Thank you! From the basic design to the finished machine it was like 5-6 months - during my free time after work - not every day though. I've got much inspiration from other people posting videos on youtube which made this built much easier. This community is really great and helpful.
@@GBWM_CNC ke 5 tu 55
@@GBWM_CNCna nie oo
A wonderful home made build machine, i only have 1 bad point,
The tail stock, your losing a lot of space, i would revise it and make it shorter and have it so you can adjust the length (wind in and out )
apart from that a big thank you for making a great video with so much detail.
Thank you! You're right about the tailstock - i am not really happy with the outcome. Especially as it isnt really stiff.
This is really cool. Just curious but I wonder if you could increase stability by filling the hollow metal with a rock and epoxy mix to add weight and rigidity. But I have no idea if that would actually do anything, awesome machine. Will probably try to make my won one day.(can't right now, no place to put it :/_)
Epoxy - rock mix would be a good idea for vibration damping. But at this moment i need it to be mobile as i have lack of place as well so sometimes i have to move it a bit and mass wouldnt help here 😁
The headstock could be stiffened with steel plates. Welding metal to the outside risks heat distortion but bolted on plates might help.
This is a fantastic effort, but without seeming negative I have a few concerns. You should use tapered bearings on the spindle so you can take out the runout. Alignment of the saddle to spindle seems to be missed? Mounting the rails should probably be the last job so you can ensure true parallel. A lot of cutting force is going to be on the rails pushing on one side and lifting the other. I think a heavier flat guideway would be better. It’s worth noting good lathes have weight in the saddle and stand for a reason, which would also help your design.
You're right. This is actually my second machine I ever made and I know it's missing some things. It had to be as cheap as possible which lead to the UCF bearings instead of tapered ones (the main goal was to make this machine without having access to an other lathe or milling machine). Same with the rails - next time I would definitely add a bit $$ and buy at least the hiwin style rails.
To sum up - I know there are some mistakes, but in the end the lathe does what it should for really small amount of money (in my opinion 😁). Thanks for the comment.
Hey Man, you truly did an amazing work...!!! Thank you to sharing it with us. I would like to ask you about the software you have used to make a 3d model and adjust it according your need. Keep going ....👍
F360 is the main software I use. It's great for hobbyst
@@GBWM_CNC Thank you so much
výborná robota si frajer že si sa pustil do niečoho takého " klobuk dole " držím ti palce pri tvojich ďalších projektoch
Ďakujem! Som rád, že sa vám to páči!
Caramba, muito bom! Parabéns pelo trabalho.
Obrigada! 😁
Excelente trabalho, meus parabéns
Muito obrigado!
Excelente trabajó, pasión por lo que haces. Saludos de Uruguay fanáticos del mate
Muchas gracias :) Saludos desde Polonia
Exelent if u can buy let’s build ur own machine u are the best
Thank you! 😁
U welcome u has a excellent skills and knowledge for this projects my respect for u young machinist
@@josefcogonzalez1902 I'm trying to give my best. Always trying to improve
Good morning sir
Hello, what program did you use to create this CNC lathe?
For 3D design I used f360 in that build. For CNC control - LinuxCNC.
Выглядит здорово! Остались вопросы:
1. Какое биение патрона получилось?
2. Какая жесткость станины на отгиб? на канале Special Instrument Designs есть методика измерения.
3. Что получилось по стоимости?
4. Какие недостатки после года использования?
Поделитесь, пожалуйста, результатами
1) Биение шпинделя 0,03 м.
2) У меня не было возможности тщательно изучить жесткость системы. Может быть, когда-нибудь будет шанс.
3) Стоимость около 1300 долларов (примерно 2 года назад)
4) К недостаткам можно отнести конечно низкую жесткость системы, при токарной обработке стали не всегда достаточно, но для небольших гаражных работ сойдет.
Все работает как в начале, потому что пользуюсь изредка, поэтому не изнашивается.
@@GBWM_CNC Биение шпинделя 0,03 мм Исправьте. А почему патрон bison не поставили? Он же у вас в стране производится и по качеству, считается лучше, чем китайский.
@@ИгорьКоваленко-е6ю Бизон был бы намного лучше, но я хотел сделать токарный станок как можно дешевле :)
Es extraordinario tu torno, es mejor que cualquier torno moderno de fabrica que haya visto, fue un gusto y gran placer el poder ver tu video haciendo tu arte. siempre lo he dicho; quien puede se divierte!!!
¡Estoy muy contenta de que hayas disfrutado de mi trabajo! :)
Rawdog drilling next to your bearing surfaces....woof, balls of tool steel.
el detalle del mateeee papaaaa lo mejorrrr todo el power ahiiii
Cruz De Malta - Yerba mate argentina :)
came for the lathe, stayed because of the yerba mate!
This is *Beyond* impressive!
Your channel is hidden gem and your subs number deserves at least 3 more zeros!
Big thanks! I'm glad you like it. Maybe someday there will be some more zeros 😁
@@GBWM_CNC
I don't doubt it brother! Quality content has the tendency to draw a lot of enthusiastic creators and people that just like to watch this stuff, we share stuff, you know... ;)
Ottima realizzazione "Fai Da Te", ottima capacità e abilità nel lavoro manuale di costruzione e di messa a punto. Dato che il progetto è arrivato ad un buon livello migliorerei lo schema dei cuscinetti testa mandrino sostituendoli con un canotto e cuscinetti a contatto obliquo in bagno d'olio per avere più capacità di carico, silenziosità e precisione. In futuro si potrebbe migliorare anche la testa porta utensile ma questo ultimo aspetto e utile solo se si vuole aumentare la capacità produttiva. In ogni modo complimenti per l'ottima realizzazione.
Grazie! Sono contento che ti piaccia il mio lavoro. Apprezzo i tuoi suggerimenti: li prenderò in considerazione quando realizzerò un nuovo tornio CNC che è previsto. Ma questa volta probabilmente userò un mandrino di una grande fresatrice manuale.
Esse que você usou aquentaria numa base o triplo deste tamanho? Parabéns pelo trabalho.
Qual deles?
Nice done! Are there any plans to look at?
Thanks! . I share the most of my wiring diagrams / part drawings with my patrons on patreon and RUclips. Feel free to join 😁
Your work speaks for itself.
😁
Lots of work into building your own lathe, well done. Few tips to improve. Weld a couple of rods in the head and fill the head with epoxy granite to reduce chatter from the head. Second fill the tubes on the bed also with epoxy granite as your lathe does not have enough mass currently and can clearly see from the video you are having chattering issues from lack of rigidity. It should improve the cut quality by a significant amount. The apron will be a lot of extra work to improve rigidity as you will need an extra 3 rail because you didn't go with linear rails that causes small movement in the apron from using round rod rails. Other than that this was a lot of work. Not a lot of people build their own lathe.
Thank you for your comment. You're right with the chatter. But filling with epoxy cant be done at this moment as i need it to be at least a bit mobile. But I'm planning on some improvement on it. Especially when it comes to stffiness. Thank you for tips!
@@GBWM_CNC At the least throw sand in that you can remove if need be to reduce vibrations.
@@kazykamakaze131 that's an idea!
Green sand (as used in casting) would be a good option. It packs in and stays put but you can knock it out again when necessary.
Wooow! I was like a boy with his favorite cartoon the entire hour!, gorgeous! A few questions: how much did this project costed? How much time did you invest building it? Would you share the 3D model? Thank you for such a beatiful video. Keep it up man!
This project was made like 2 years ago. It cost about $1300 back then and about 3 months for spending my free time after work. I share all 3D models / plans I have with patrons of this channel. Feel free to join if you'd like to take a look :)
Thanks for watching!
çok güzel olmuş eline sağlık fakat nasıl yapıldığını ve kullandığın malzemenin neler oldğu ve ölçüleri paylaşmalısın
Fantastic build process. It looked like you had an auto-darkening shield for your camera on some of the welding footage. Spare welding mask? Great idea LoL.
A few things confused me. Why such a large motor for this lathe? I read what you said about why you built the headstock with those bearings, but I figured that you'd quick be turning a new spindle and converting to preloaded tapered bearings. The next thing was the size of your cross slide and carriage. How big a swing do you have? In the end it seemed like a waste of expensive precision plate.
As things proceeded early on I was thinking you were building a larger lathe and then was confused by the Z axis rails.
The cleverest ideas though.. grease fittings! Yess!. A tool post and collet chuck side by side! Another great idea for working small parts.
Ok.. so you are making some use of the extra travel. LoL.
Since you're all CNC perhaps this is more useful being you can go back to exactly center the collet chuck.
I did notice your first cut of the spindle mounting plate your tool was way off vertically. Then you fixed it later in that sequence. 😂
I was wondering too about the bed when saw the C channels being welded. I was thinking.. that's NOT flat enough by any means. I was waiting to see your "flatten the bed" sequence with you scraping the bed flat and checking it against the spindle axis. I was expecting a flat plate or at least scraping the bed to get it close. Alas, aluminum rails will never be rigid enough so it probably didn't matter that much in the end.
Still a heck of a build. Congrats! I'm contemplating something similar.
I was thinking DROs and steppers.
Are you calibrating the CNC software off of the limit switches?
Is that sufficient for accuracy?
I'm very curious about that because you aren't using synchronous motors.
CNC without DROs would save quite a bit on the budget!
Thanks!
Oh, that was an detailed analysis!
So... I have dark welding glasses just for the filming purpose. That motor was so big to have higher torque on lower RPM for threading while using a VFD (without no additional gear-reductions).
At first I was about to make a new spindle soon after making this one... But after figuring out how many things I'd like to change - I decided to make a completly new lathe with the experience gained with the first one. Yeah - the precision plate was quite but - mainly to have the additional tools chuck.
Btw you're very observant! Yes - I had to adjust the height after the first cut, lol!
And you're exactly right - those rails were not rigid enough to work very well in the end but that was quite good to mount them on the C-beam surface. But in the end the precision on the whole length was really good to be honest (in my opinion).
About calibrating - depends on your accuracy needs but I'd rather set the work coordinates from your stock after the first manual pass (that's how I do it). After that I'm set for what I needed. The stepper motors with the right drive setup should work well unless you're aiming for microns - then you will need some kind of DROs th chase the microns which run away for example when your ballscrew heats up. There are many variables there! :)
Te ha quedado genial el torno, ha sido un placer verte construirlo.
Lo que no entiendo bien es que hace un mandalorian tomando mate jajaja, saludos desde Argentina.
¡Jajaja! :) ¡Gracias!
I love watching someone smart enough to design and build an entire cnc lathe struggle so hard to make 1 decent looking weld
Oh cmon, it wasn't that bad :) It works until today though, haha!
@@GBWM_CNC Haha, much love brother! Awesome video, awesome build, just nitpicking because I'm jealous
@@AKracecars Greetings!
Great work, but is it all controlled by PC?
Even the filleting routines?
you give him the shape of the piece and he does everything?
Congratulations,.. very good!!
Yes it is controlled by PC with LinuxCNC. All the motion is controlled by it - any pre-designed part which can be made by a lathe. Glad you like it! :)
Excellent workmanship! Bravo!
thank you! :)
Love the build. What metals is it capable or turning? Also does it support manual? I didn't see any handles. Finally are there instructions and BOM with the step files, or is it more of break down the file and watch the videos?
It does in aluminium pretty well and soft steel like s235 with shallow passes. It supports "manual" but it works like - press arrows to go where you want. There are no handles but you can controll it manually from the keyboard. At this moment there is only a step file for it as I can't find time to make fine instructions for it. Maybe during this holidays I'll have some free time to make it.
In using a closed loop stepper motor to get the sync with the other stepper motors (closed loop) if using a a non-synced spindle drive motor.. of course the 'sensor stepper motor should be configured not to be power driven and the fault line not used and you may want to size the stepper to be big enough for slow machining.. and install a brake system of using a milling attachment on the lathe post.
the spindle is synced! :)
High quality build, A professional...
thank you! :)
@@GBWM_CNC thanks 2 you my friend, the world needs more of US ...#engineers will save the world and you're a part of that reality by inspiring other 2 build it for themselves.
-ER
@@erx88 I love sharing my workshop experiences with others 😁
Lo que saco en claro es que para construir una máquina industrial se necesitan varias máquinas industriales, además de varias habilidades profesionales. Tiene sentido, pero esto es DIY extremo :D
Cuanto más equipo, más fácil es :)
nothing short of amazing mate. very impressive
Do you think the carriers make to much chatter or would you go with a different kind in hide sight, to turn the chuck on, for what it has to carry, the inertia and speed it turns or do you think what you have is good, even better then you thought, your thoughts would be appreciated thanks brother
Next time if I make a next lathe (probably i will do) I would use shaped linear rails like the HGR series for example - these are MUCH more rigid for a bit more money. But it will be worth it. The bearings for the spindle are not the best idea too - roller bearings would be nice with a stiff housing. It would prevent a lot of chatter. The downside of roller bearings is that you've got to have a lathe to make a proper spindle shaft (I didn't have at that time so I had to use usuall pipe or pay a lot for making a shaft and the purpose of this project was to make it cheap :D ). These are my thoughts after making it. But anyway if I make light cuts it allows me to make a lot of operations.
Incredible work! Can you please roughly tell what is the cost price for all the metal (sheets, bars, angles) you used. I think in my country buying Lathe will be cheaper than all the materials for assembling by yourself.
About ~$1300 when I was building it. Now more for sure. But for me the most important thing was to learn things. Now I have much more knowledge and a lathe which is maybe not the most efficient one but for my small workshop work - it does the job at this moment :)
Yes sure the main part is learning and taking pleasure from the process. It just costs a lot of money unfortunately ))
@@sandrok14 Sadly :(
metal that you are using for this lathe is either structural steel or some other type of steel which is not adequate for machine tools due to vibration dumping
Yes! Sadly I don't have an opportunity to make a cast iron frame. But maybe someday!
@@GBWM_CNC you can fill the welded steel voids with crushed granite and epoxy ;) . Before that check the temperature expansion of your mixture.
@@nikolaradakovic5050 I thought about it actually. There are some other small upgrades I could make too. If I will go for upgrading the machine - I'll do that definitely. But I also think about making a new lathe with consideration of the things I know now that I didn't know back then.
@@GBWM_CNCI could recommend you some approach that will make your lathe building a cumulative experience for other machine tool projects. Try with Yoshimi Ito modular machine tool design
@@nikolaradakovic5050 Thank you! I will definitely try to get my hands on it. Seems quite informative
Woahhh amazing! Worth it to watch aside from movie 👍🙏 you can inspired many through your video, it’s educational as well. Really amazing you do it alone! 🙏👍🇵🇭🇲🇾
I'm glad you like it! :)
Już sam nie wiem czy lepiej zrobić tokarkę czy ploter frezujący... Btw super wyszło!
Zależy co jest potrzebne 😁 Jeżeli dla sportu to polecam ploter / frezarkę, bo więcej możliwości daje do zabawy 😁
Lo mejor, la pausa pal mate :)) Fantástico trabajo amigo!!
Gracias! 😎
Successful. But there is a lot of vibration. You should use cast material for the body. I wish you continued success. Wonderful
This machine is definitely not perfect - but it works 😁 Cast material is quite hard to make in a home workshop. I'm glad you enjoyed! 😁
Exelente trabajo!!! Qué disfrutes ese mate !!! Saludos desde Argentina
¡Gracias! Me encanta la yerba. Gracias por traerlo a Europa :)
Sorprendente trabajo. muchisimas gracias por compartir estos videos
vendes los planos?
do you have some cnc course?;.
Me alegro de que te guste. No hice buenos planes, pero el modelo CAD de este torno está disponible para los miembros de soporte del canal. No tengo ningún curso, solo comparto lo que sé aquí con la gente. ¡salud!
@@GBWM_CNC ah, no tenia idea, me inscribire para apoyar tu canar.
Gracias
Esta frío ese mate🤣🤣lindo trabajo👏👏👍👍
Mejor yerba fría que yerba caliente. ¡Gracias! 😎
Very nice. I would like to build one as well. Do you have plans for sale?
I'm glad you like it! I don't have exact plans to build it but I've shared some files with my patrons - 3d models / some raw drawings for the prototype etc.
man, outstanding, what is your background? like college/university program or trades school where you went into? just curious what it takes to learn something like that, you gotta have technical background for sure
I've been at a technical school and now studying technical engineering. But let's be honest - most of what I learned is from my own practice / internet. The school just introduced me to the topic a bit.
Good work. Thank you for your efforts, everything is great. My request from you is where and how can I access the drawing files of your lathe. I want to do the same. I would be very happy if you share the link. Thank you very much in advance.
Thanks! I shared some stuff with my patrons but there are no perfect drawings - just some prototype drawings I had for it :)
Notes to myself about building my own lathe:
- Myself, don't try to build a bed from square tubing, the tolerances will be to much.
- Myself, don't use these pre-fitted bearing-blocks on spindle, they are noisy, even when brand new.
- Myself, don't use these linear-rail-thingies (amzon specials), they are noisy and rough.
- Myself, don't use a 2KW motor, if that thing doesn't kill you, then the high voltage will (400V).
- Myself, don't buy a precision aluminium plate and then hammer on it, it won't be "precision" any longer.
- Myself, f$!k that computer-shit, I wouldn't know what to do with that (to old to learn).
- Myself, ...
SHUT UP, don't spoil the fun for this lad here who must be very proud of his creation !
Okay, but uhm ...
Myself, don't drink weird juice from funny wooden bowl, it might change your opinion about "Notes to myself " !
Note to young lad (GBWM):
Hey Mister, the generated chips is something to be proud of, because they are the evidence that you have been working hard. Don't try to hide them with some weird "guards". Besides you need to clean the whole lathe anyways, so a few chips here and there wont matter.
And I finally do also have something nice to say:
I like that idea of a fixed shaft in "Bohrerhalter" = Simple and efficient. That would be good enough as my tail-stock (for my intended purposes).
The end-result of your lathe is really cool 👍
Wir sprechen auch Deutsch 😁, wofür steht "GBWM" ?
I'll take this comment as a suggestion that i'm crazy. Agreed, haha!
The notes are quite good though. I'm really proud about the chips and yup - it was a lot of work.
GBWM bedeutet - GB bedeutet mein Geheimnis und WM bedeutet Schweißbearbeitung (Welding Machining) :)
Enjoyed this one, kudos for the editing and sound effects too. The lack of washers did trigger me though. The HUGE spindle drive motor made me chuckle, but hey use what you got I guess....🤔😳😏😏🇬🇧
Haha thanks! I used a bigger motor to have more torque on low speeds for example when threading :)
Do you have plans for this? What are the specs regarding turn dia and length
Plans I was using are available for my patrons. Max diameter about 180mm and length about 300mm
Nice, you are very smart! the CNC metal lathe looks good!
Thank you for watching! 😁
Great work! How did you check straightness and parallel of slideways?
parallelism was checked with a dial indicator attached to one of the linear bearings and I measured the opposite rod if the distance is the same on the whole range of motion. The straightness - you mean if the height is the same everywhere? if yes - here is the problem. I trusted the c-beam (on the Z axis) and there are little off-sets sadly. The Z axis was mounted on a flat face milled plate so it should be right :)
Great work ❤
May I know details of both stepper motor sir
Thanks! Z axis - JK57HS82-3004 and X axis Rtelligent 57A2
Un petit bonjour de France.
Impressionnant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Haha, je suis content que ça te plaise !
Salutations de la Pologne.😁
M8 that was efin awesome, just what I want to do and have being thinking of adding an 800w spindle about the lathe to make a cnc lathe/mill
Skvělá práce!! Zajímá mě, jaký si použil navrhovací program, hodne se mi libi 😊
Dík! Použil jsem zde F360, ale nedávno jsem přešel na ZW3D
Aqui é do BRASIL ESTOU COMEÇANDO UM TORNO CASEIRO E FIQUEI IMPRESSIONADO COM O SEU , QUE CAPRICHO , DEDICAÇÃO , E CONHECIMENTO ASSICIADO A MUITA PACIENCIA 👏👏👏👍👍
😀🔥
Totally awestruck! Great job. I don't suppose you have any plans available for this project ?
Thanks! I made some drawings which are available for all my patrons if you'd like to take a look.
hermoso tu trabajo hermano te felicito es increíble. proba la yerba mate con una cucharada de café. queda fantástico también. saludos desde Entre Ríos Argentina.
Ya tomé yerba con sabor a café. Pero nunca he intentado verter café puro en yerba mate sin sabor. Gracias por el consejo. Lo probaré :)
Cool beans, dude 😊Maybe you can do you a CNC plasma cutter next
cool idea - was thinking about that but I need some space
Die verwendeten Flanschlager sind einfach Kugellager richtig? Ich habe bei meinen das Problem dass ich in bestimmten Positionen Spiel habe und man klackern hört. Welche Lager hast du verbaut?
Ich habe ucf207 verwendet. Diese Lager sind nicht sehr gut, aber für diesen Preis funktioniert es gerade so. Es gibt allerdings keine Steifheit.
Really nice work. May I ask how long it took? I see 24months if it was me.
It took like 3 months of fun in the workshop after my shifts in my job if i remember right
Totally blown away. Genius
thank you! :)
You really deserve appreciation And very very good
I'm glad you like my work! 😁😁
❤️@@GBWM_CNC
buen trabajo, gracias por compartirlo, ¿tiene planos y lista de partes y materiales?
¡Gracias! No hice una lista de materiales, pero he compartido todos los planes que estaba usando para construir esto con mis seguidores del canal y mecenas en patreon
Hi Again does your lathe machine steel with a good finish . I am very interested in building one if it works well. I dont want to spend all that time and money if it will not turn steel . Many Thanks. Love your work.
Answering your question - it turns steel but if you're looking for tight tolerances or surface finish then it's not the way to go. You need a stiffer machine. I've already made some tight tolerance bored holes for bearings but I had to take a lot of passes to get good tolerance to fit a bearing. It's a cool machine to have for hobby work but if you want to be efficient - you have to look for something more rigid.
Hola, felicitaciones por tu obra, me intriga como buen argentino por que te gusta el mate?
Gracias!
La yerba mate siempre mejora mi capacidad de pensamiento cuando no está en la mejor forma. Me encanta el mate argentino.
doesn,t those linear bearings make the lathe shatter like hel ?
i mean, there is totaly no demping effect, like a standard lathe from cast iron and a lot of mass ?
Probably the linear bearings are the problem. BUT - there depends a lot on the feeds and speeds, depth of cut etc. I was able to cut steel on this lathe with lower parameters and aluminium with 0,5mm DOC and 0,2mm/rev and cutting speed ~120m/min which worked pretty well with almost no chatter. But you're right - there should be more mass and something filling out the sections not mentioning the linear rails as guideways. This had to be a CHEAP project and actually it was and I'm able to turn soft steel and aluminium at home which was my main object. Thank you for your input - appreciate your comment :)
Wyświetlił mi się dzisiaj Twoj filmik. Stwierdziłem zo obejrzę jeszcze raz 😁. Jak uważasz z perspektywy czasu czy warto było robić taką tokarkę CNC (pomijając kwestie wyświetleń na YT które sa ogromne 😅). Dużo nią toczysz? Jak to faktycznie jest z dokładnością. Tez zastanawiałem się czy nie zrobić ale ostatecznie kupiłem jakąś starą Koreanka konwencjonalną. Teraz trafiają mi się tematy gdzie gdy tworzę jakąś maszyne muszę toczyć po kilkadziesiąt takich samych tulejek.
Od czasu jak wykonałem tą tokarkę to używam jej raz do czasu do różnych projektów. Jak chodzi o dokładność to jest różnie - jak coś potrzebuję, aby było wykonane w setkach to muszę niestety wykonać przejścia zgrubnie a potem już suwmiarką sprawdzam i wykonuję kilka przejść wykańczających na wymiar. Jako tako aluminium obrabia całkiem przyjemnie a stale to raczej tylko te miękkie i raczej na niskiej głębokości skrawania. Także raczej sporadycznie używam ale póki co działa. Raczej, jeżeli się spodziewasz dokładności, to kupiłbym jakąś używaną tokarkę CNC i wykonał ewentualnie na niej retrofit na jakieś aktualne sterowanie, przerobił jakąś manualną bądź wykonał samoróbkę, ale koniecznie z prowadnicami kształtowymi np. typu HGR oraz na odpowiednich łożyskach np. stożkowych. Ja wkrótce będę robił nową tokarkę bazując na doświadczeniach z tej tutaj. Zobaczymy, czy wyjdzie lepiej :)
@@GBWM_CNC ja głównie stal czarna. No właśnie te prowadnice na tych wałkach to raczej marnej jakości. Co jest przyczyną że stal opornie idzie? Słaby silnik? A te silniki krokowe dałyby rade przy lepszej konstrukcji czy raczej myślisz o jakiś servach?
@@marcinranoszek64 sztywność maszyny głównie. Te łożyska i prowadnice co prawda pozwalają toczyć ale dosyć skutecznie obniżają dokładność. Chcąc zebrać więcej materiału na raz maszyna wpada w wibracje i zarówno powierzchnia obrabiana jak i wymiary po prostu uciekają. Jeżeli trzeba wytoczyć coś mało dokładnego to w automacie daje radę ale jak coś dokładniejszego to po prostu jej używam jako manualnej sterując z klawiatury osiami, haha! :) Silnik zwłaszcza jeżeli pracuje na wyższych narzędziami węglikowymi to daje radę. Gorzej przy HSS-ach bo wtedy mniejsza moc przy niższej prędkości ale w sumie zdarzyło mi się go zdusić może z 3 razy od początku jak ją zbudowałem. Silniki krokowe raczej dają radę przy powiedzmy takich lższejszych przejściach jakie z reguły wykonuję - prędzej się konstrukcja ugina niż te silniki się poddają. Raz mi się udało stracić kroki - przy próbie wiercenia dużym wiertłem z dostawki do wierteł. Ale do kolejnej tokarki już udało mi się dosyć tanio znaleźć serwa więc pójdę w tym kierunku.
@@GBWM_CNC 😂 rozumiem że film z tworzenia będzie?
@@marcinranoszek64 Oczywiście, że tak!
I respect. Did a great job!
Can you share the drawings and the project as a whole?
Thanks! Cad model available for channel supporters. I will make some drawings when i have some spare time
@@GBWM_CNC How do I become a channel supp?
@@miwarrr2248 there is a blue "join" button under the video ☺️☺️
@@GBWM_CNC There is no such button under the video
@@miwarrr2248 Depends on your language. Should be next to the red "subscribe" button (on the left). Also I share these on my patreon (look up for GBWM on patreon dot com).
Great video! what is the chuck size?
Thanks! it's k11-125
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS SPECTACULAR!!!!!!!!! BRILLIANT WORK!!!!!!!!! VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!... WHOA!!!... "BRAVO!!!!!! "
thx! :)
Impresionante trabajo. Enhorabuena!
¡Gracias! :)
Czy myslisz ze lepszym rozwiazaniem byłoby silnik elektryczny dać poza ramą? Silnik z pewnością generuje jakieś wibracje co pewnie wpływa na stabilność i dokładność. Konstrukcja nie jest pewnie zbyt ciężka jak w przypadku duzych obrabiarek.
Hmm ciekawe. Chodziłoby o zamontowanie go np. na oddzielnej konstrukcji / podłodze / ścianie? Sam w sumie silnik chyba nie wytwarza zbyt dużo wibracji w porównaniu do silników spalinowych na przykład :D Fakt faktem konstrukcja nie jest mega ciężka ale sama praca silnika chyba ma stosunkowo niski wpływ na dokładność obróbki. Bardziej rodzaj łożysk, sztywność konstrukcji, rodzaj prowadnic itd
@@GBWM_CNC tak miałem na myśli na zupełnie innej konstrukcji.
@@marcinranoszek64 Ciekawy pomysł. Chyba nawet nie widziałem jeszcze czegoś takiego