@@WuWeiAllDay consider all he was at the time of 2011, an angry bastard who quite literally was just a outlet for a player to kill things. I don't understand why he said he doesn't like the games but i get thinking Kratos isn't a very good character. Funnily enough now its reversed, the character is way better but the game is now a mess. (Edit: pretentious was a wrong word choice)
@@BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian To be fair, Kratos did have character and did have a 'descend into madness' type setup with all that's happened to him. Tricked into killing loves ones, cursed to wear their ashes, being double crossed by the gods on a few occasions, having to fight and kill his long lost brother that he searched for ages to find, ect. I think some of these alone could make someone snap, but * do like his development in the new God of War, hopefully they do improve and quicken the pace of the gameplay in Ragnarok.
Agreed my guy, it bothers me the most that it only looks like she killed a few of them (Jade, Jax, and maybe Sub-Zero) but ended up killing almost all of them, with Johnny Cage *somehow* surviving even after he was involved in trying to kill Sindel. Absolutely mind boggling.
@@BrowserBen Yet Smoke took down reptile and him? And the fact that Lao beat his alliance? I know Sindel is supposed to be strong but I mean, really? His soul infused with Sindel is not going to stop all of them.
"how can water cut through things" they have high powered water jets that can cut through metal. i assume thats what they were going for with the water blade for rain.
Theoretically if anything is traveling fast enough it could destroy anything like a grain of sand could go threw someone’s skull is chucked fast enough
@@andreahope7254 And grain of sand cannot go through someone's skull are you using your brain that's w complete lie and to make sure I'm not crazy I also looked it up
@@benevolencev7204 Well, technically, if it was thrown by someone with superstrength, it could penetrate someone's skin, but since it's just a grain of sand, I guess that they wouldn't even feel it.
You missed two non-Raiden-related time paradoxes: 1. The Komidoku are now knives instead of amulets (Though to be fair that wasn't shown until after this video came out) 2. Nobody has fulfilled the absurd conditions required to fight Reptile, yet he's the first freaking fight in the game. He also isn't fought at the bottom of the pit
actually the kamidogu daggers aren't a retcon it''s been explained by the creator of the prequel MKX comics that the kamidogu daggers aren't the same kamidogu from the original timeline. the daggers were created by raiden,the originals were created by the elder gods.
there's something I forgot to mention in the original timeline shang tsung's island collapses after mk1 and the prequel comic to mk2 reveals this,yet in mk9's timeline of events the isalnd doesn't get destroyed. also shouldn't kano have gotten captured with sonya like he did in the original mortal kombat 2? in mk9 he is seen making showing weapons to shang tsung in the living forest in smoke's chapter,he should be chained up at kahn's arena.
Hey dip shit screw you fuck in programmer of video games my ass I bet you didn’t don’t even know how to play fucking video game dip shit you realize that you said that can you know should’ve been captured when in the fucking video he said that Kino should’ve been crap shared three times
This is by far one of the best reviews I watched about MK in my life… I am a fan, but this guy says it all 10 YEARS AGO!!! I never even realized I hated this little things in MK, because I was used to them.. Great structure, speech and review. 10/10
Nikki Holdmeier, Liu Kang only won the MK tournament because of Deus Ex Machina Elder God Powers that was only recently established in MK11 whereas both of Johnny Cage’s and Cassie Cage’s god killing powers were established in the Mortal Kombat lore from MK1 onwards.
Lord Parbr yeah but they wouldn’t be that stupid to let Kahn with the 10th, they’d probably figure “oh there’s going to be another”. Like what happens.
@@jennifercorbett8640 what would make sense since he managed 3 words is shao kahn must- now we have a decent starting point and some vagueness and room for misunderstandings. Past raiden would put it as sha kahn must not win and then eventually piece the correct answer.
Well, we all know Quan Chi's plotting against Shinnok like in Mythologies and 4 so he's shaping up to be the main villain, especially with Shang Tsung too dead to form the Deadly Alliance proper. Sure, they'll be restored eventually but it's stacking things too ridiculously against the good guys, who'll have about 6/7 people tops. You have to admit though, Kabal, Jax and Sub-Zero's souls still having their tech is kinda stupid. You have to
Holy cow, this aged well. Apart from the 3 having their souls back. Shang Tsung returns, but I have a bad feeling he will never return after MK11 Aftermath. And Quan Chi I think you know how his fate is already. Bittersweet at best.
@@The4thSnake To this very day, I still wonder HOW or IF Netherrealm would somehow retcon all of the inconsistencies with MK9 concerning the amount of backlash they’ve gotten for how inaccurate its portrayal of the first three games in it are. My money’s on them going “the Midway timeline was Kronika’s worst and least cohesive timeline” and then just never acknowledging it or the criticisms ever again.
Shang Tsung hates Quan Chi himself! That look he had on his face, when he has to fight Kung Lao with Quan Chi was like "you trying to steal my spotlight?" XD
I don't have a problem with you. I thank you for respecting my opinion. Not sure why you felt the need to delete your other comments but in response to them: *Quan Chi was only established as recruiting Scorpion in MK4. Prior to that, he'd only indirectly caused Scorpion's death and wasn't involved otherwise. *Liu Kang and Kung Lao's rivalry from MK:SM was referenced in Kung Lao's MKA ending and his presence on the island and fight with Baraka come from Shaolin Monks.
I like to imagine 1:50:34 to 1:50:51 happened while The4thSnake was eating or sleeping, and Quan Chi just keeps walking in and saying his name over and over until he gives in. He's like a shadow upon The4thSnake's life - such is Quan Chi, the bs sorcerer who thinks he's better than everyone.:D
You're probably right. But I'd say Kahn is definitely dead. He exploded and then there's Quan Chi's ending (one of the few potentially canon ones). Here's one for you: Scorpion is Quan Chi's primary henchamn until he kills Sub-Zero. Sub-Zero (now Noob) takes that role for MK2 and 3 until his second death, at which point Scorpion takes the position back. You have to admit, Scorpion really wasn't treated well here, being a tool of Quan Chi instead of neutral and even somewhat heroic at times.
I know how you feel, mr. I honestly wish we had a way more positive or at least a way more satisfying conclusion to the story....... Not freaken genocide and failure.
1.) How did Shao Kahn sneak his big ass behind Kung Lao without anyone noticing or trying to stop him? 2.) How come Jax didn't get his arms back when he died? Does that mean his metal arms are part of his soul now?
You’re opinion is just...uhhh bad, yeah because you can’t say much about MK9 yes you like it but if you played the games before MK9 your opinion would be different
Always good to find someone who can see the game for what it is. I imagine they'll return as zombies at least for part of the game before being restored at the end. I'm guessing they want it to be that Raiden makes everything worse before he makes it better at the end of the next one. I hope they have Noob be purified and become Sub-Zero again. He can try to save his brother's soul and they have the potential for a really good plot there as it parallels the original timeline with roles reversed.
I knew I wasn't the only one who thought the Story Mode was fucked up. Also, if they really wanted to do this story diferently with different plot-points, they should've really just rebooted it completely…
Someone has never played with an industrial water pressure cleaner. It's about as powerful as a sand blaster, and can cut concrete in half almost as well on a high enough setting. So, in short, YES water can cut people in half with a high enough pressure blast.
Watching this in a post MK 11 world says a lot. This use to be the worst thing the series did. But then X came out and while not good i think that story was better. It just needed a bit more time and a second draft. Them 11 came out and destroyed any hope this trilogy had at being some what okay.
Why the fuck does Quan Chi have Shinnok's Amulet on him? He goes right in front of Raiden, with the damned thing secured to his belt, and Raiden does NOTHING. Mythologies still happens in this timeline, so that's even more inexcusable.
The story mode is incredibly rough. It’s cringe and takes away all tense and terrifying atmosphere MK had prior. Growing up I played mk3 at the arcade by me literally everyday, we hung out there and I remember having a crowd of kids behind me tossing my quarters to beat motaro, I eventually did with jax because it was like MK annihilation lol, we all loved the movie back then, yes it’s trash. MK had a dark scary charm to it and it worked better when you used your imagination to think of the scenarios that would play out while reading bios, endings, lore, so much. I even rented MK trilogy and I kept the manual because I was so obsessed with the art work. When deadly alliance came out I remember freaking out at the aspect of liu kang being killed, I chose kung lao as my main and felt as if I avenged him. Deception comes out and it blew me away with the konquest mode. I’m then in the eighth grade and a new friend I made sat beside me and he was just as nutty for MK lore as me and we had every character jotted down WITH PICTURES in a book and we counted down the days for Armageddon. To this day that is still my favourite MK title. When I got to high school i was focused on my social life, girls, party’s so MK wasn’t in my head until I went to a girls house and she’s playing MK VS DC. I was appalled at what I saw.. I played as liu kang, kicked everyone’s ass but I was so angry at what they did to the series I gave up. At this time I went back to my old fan sites, had my old RUclips videos and for what ever reason I deleted the account. I had bios, fights, lore. MK died. Then when I heard about the reboot I got stoked again. I’ll never forget the day I played it, my brothers birthday and we were all twacked out of our minds and I played it thinking hmm cool but I need to play sober. When I did I was once again appalled at what they did with the story. The game was fun I’ll admit and I loved the fatalities and x rays, me and friends had fun battling one another but the story. Garbage. Mortal kombat has not and will most likely never be the same for me, I’ve played everyday game, own the majority, even now but my god the story in these games are bafflingly terrible. I don’t play the games for the story alone anymore, I turn my brain off and play with friends. Mortal kombat died the day MK VS DC was released.
"How can water cut through things" Look up hydroblasting. Specifically the shotgun... saw a man lose almost all the meat of his knee cap to that. It's a real thing
What happened to Mortal Kombat also happened to StarCraft. Their sequels released in the 2010s created plot holes, contrivances and retcons that ruined great video game stories.
It would have been nice if you beat the 300 challenges and you get Goro, Kintaro, and Shao Kahn. As in, beat the first 1pp challenges, you get Goro. Beat challenge 101-200, and you get Kintaro. Beat challenges 201-300, and you get Shao Kahn. That would've worked. Bandage Mileena sounds like something you should get by beating the arcade mode as Mileena.
I guess I sent you too far ahead. I was aiming for the end of the story section. My main problems are: *The focus being on 1-3 but still having Quan Chi *The major focus on Quan Chi *The way the last 2 chapters go with everyone dying *The fact that some retcons have nothing to do with Raiden's actions. There are good things like the voice work (especially Raiden, Kitana and Scorpion), the visuals & designs and some great finishers. But the game really put me off so I'll be dropping the series.
I don't plan to buy any more of their stuff so vote with your wallet definitely applies in my case. Did I indicate at some point that I didn't know when Babalities were introduced? I don't recall doing so.
Yes, there's a lot of retcon that isn't explained. Seemed to me they were taking the opportunity to flesh out overall continuity better. I don't like Quan Chi but they worked him into the earlier stories long before (in MK Mythologies). The second last Chapter took me by surprise, but didn't ruin the game for me, and we'll see if they all actually stay dead.
Keep in mind he died a few times in the original timeline, but came back. In MK, no one ever stay's dead. I can see Quan Chi's Arcade Ladder ending happening somewhat canonically though. Scorpion had the chance to redeem himself but failed (in the MK1 sections). He then chose to stay with Quan Chi. He could still flip, or he could stay "bad." In UMK3, he started off working with Shao Khan, remember.
At least acknowledge you are in the complete minority Pretty much everyone agrees that MK2011 was the best MK game ever The story was decent and the gameplay was phenomenal The modes were good and it had a decent online mode
Whether I'm in the minority opinion or not is irrelevant. If you have nothing more in-depth to say than that my opinions are somehow wrong, then don't even bother.
@@genericwhitemale9566 why the fuck should he? Why do you even ask him to? He never brought this up in the video, therefore never denied it. I was never a fan of the lore in MK, so I enjoyed the story overall. But you are pretty butthurt.
I'm guessing they will. Frost may end up working for the villains though, given that the Lin Kuei was retconned to be working for Shang Tsung. The only heroes I can think of are Raiden, Sonya, Johnny Cage, Kai, Fujin, Kenshi, Ermac, Bo Rai Cho and maybe Darrius, Dairou or Nitara.
I assume he'll die since he'll be the sole antagonist of Deadly Alliance unless he revives Onaga or something. I can even see him taking Kahn's place in Armageddon. They have Fujin, Kai, Bo Rai Cho and Kenshi to add to the three survivors. Maybe Li Mei. I guess it could be an interesting twist if they had Kahn's forces join the heroes to fight Quan Chi. And did you notice Baraka's absence from the MK3 part. I assumed it was because he wasn't in MK3 but neither were Goro or Kintaro.
I agree with a lot of your insight of the game since I’m not as a big of fan as you or know the story as well as you, but I watch the videos. Also, I think the message Raiden sent to his past self should have said, “Khan must win”. Although we still don’t know which tournament should he win in, and how the magic plot item works when he got it, and if it can only use only an certain amount, how far back and how much concentration did he need to send it to the timeline/alternate world desired after been beat to hell. I respect your opinions, loved Shaolin Monks, and I liked the concept of the game even if it’s cheesy. Wish I had a better conversation for you.
I'm not sure he did canonically die before. I think it was just for effect/retconned. Hence why his supposed death in MKDA is such a big deal. True but he switched immediately after learning that Sub-Zero was against Kahn. The writers really struggle with keeping character alignments and motivations consistent. Just like they struggle with having more than two factions in the story.
Hey The4thSnake is absolutely right about MK. It has so many flaws with the game it’s not wonder that it took him two hours to do this video. Just this video alone is probably even better than the MK 2011 story mode and The4thSnake’s video are actually worth getting invested in than all of NetherRealm’s games combined honestly. And The4thSnake, I believe there are a lot of other fans who are not too happy with how the franchise is becoming so you are not the only one who see it bud. In conclusion, great video from Snake, nether realm studios is crap, and I bet Snake and his RUclipsr friends would probably make even better mk games than NetherRealm Studios ever could. Thank for you time.
Good evening, I've been watching your rant/take on this game and I must say you make some excellent points. I personally would've like to see Scorpion get what he really wants when instead, he's used deceived and lost for easy ass plot convenience. No you're not the only one who sees it, but you are probably the only one with enough stamina to want to do something about it. Which brings be to ask a question, forgive me if this is dumb: What them to make another game?
Shaolin Monks isnt in continuity..... sorry about all these comments im commenting while im watching lol but it was bullshit when stryker beat kingtaro.... that pissed me off quite alot. btw the reason sindel beats them all is because shes also got shang stungs powers. and hes one of the strongest characters.
To be honest I thought the story was great. That scene where Sindel kills everyone doesn't make them seem weak, it's just Sindel is OP because Khan fused her and Tsung (and the reason he did that is because Tsung is more powerful than Quan Chi) so Sindel basically had her power + Tsung's + every soul Tsung absorbed prior to that. But I do get what you're saying about Quan Chi being overused here, and their souls randomly belonging to him makes no sense. I don't mind the whole thing about Raiden making a mistake that kills everyone, because it's basically exploring the concept of what happens if a god makes a mistake. Although, the Elder Gods are useless as fuck anyways.
+Phial Substance Yes because Alone Shang Tsung can take on all the heros? Please. He couldnt take on Kung Lao with Quan Chi. But then fused with a just revived and weakened Sindel and Shang Tsungs power was enough to over all of them? Lets not forget Subzero beat Ermac. Who houses many souls as well. Two warriors who beat warriors who house god knows how many soouls. Riiiiiiiight.
I’m so confused with the shao Kahn death first off why didn’t Raiden warn him about shao Kahn walking right behind him and why does Shao Kahn confess everything to Kitana you think you would need the best warriors possible to win a tournament you would form without the elder gods knowledge but nooooooo WHAT THE FUCK
I'm not the biggest fan of MK9 I call it a guilty pleasure I just like all the original characters was brought back Sindel not remembering her past and being evil morely and killing half the roster is arguably the biggest moment in MK history and than kill her own child that part got me the most.
I respect your reasoning but completely disagree with your conclusion. I think this was the best MK game since Mortal Kombat II. And it may even be better than MK2. Some of your critiques are critiques that could apply to just about every fighting game in history. Why do guys get up from X-ray Moves? For the same reason that guys got up from getting hit by a lightning bolt from Raiden in Mortal Kombat 1992.
I understand that Mortal Kombat may be quite fictious and all, but am I the only one who finds it strange that the Lin Kuei, despite utilizing prehistoric weaponry and techniques at best, have acquired high tech mechanics and robotics and have somehow created cyborgs with it. In spite of seemingly having no surgical experience, or knowledge of prosthetics, given how archaic their garb, fighting skill, structure design and weapons are but they are able to create highly advanced cyborg soldiers while the Special Forces at best have energy beams than oppose to the Lin Kuei who have teleportation, rocket propellants, and holographic projectile nets and at least in the original timeline, pulse blades. A reclusive group of assassins can achieve all this innovation under a small period of time (MK2 to MK3) while the Special Forces, a branch of the US military in canon, has not much to combat this. The only modernized tech I can see that we do not possess is Jacqui Briggs' holographic shield projector in MK11's gameplay and just maybe, Sonya's armed mobile drone
This is my favorite video so far, i just started watching this channel like 3 days ago but ive been laughing my ass off, fuck quan chi with a salt covered cactus.
Netherrealm Studios starting from the beginning: "We, a new company, fuck everything "Midway" have done. Let's throw it into the trash and restart it so we can have "more creativity" in the same fucking box. People will like it and will assume that it's the new beginning." Yeah, that's how the beginning of this story works.
I'm glad you brought these questions up especially the one about Taven for years I've been wondering wtf happened to Taven I love the 3d era of Mortal Kombat more I love shajinko and other 3d era characters more than the new characters introduced in the next game that really pisses me off even more Mortal Kombat X then Mortal Kombat 11 and especially aftermath story modes crank the f you dial up to infinite I despise the story modes from Mortal Kombat 2011 to Mortal Kombat 11 aftermath
Thanks. As a fan of the original trilogy (especially the first two games), I do disagree with a lot of what you said and felt the game was spot on, really capturing that classic feel while evolving it, but to each their own. Had to start on Beginner to get used to fighters again but can now play on Expert no problem. Very fluid and easy to learn, hard to master gameplay.
@@Juxtapose1313 oh boy how wrong you are the flow of gameplay is choppy even if you were skilled at the game and due to the lack of good animation even if it had good flow it wouldn't feel like it
@@Juxtapose1313 no it looks like you don't know the bad animation mistakes that are consistently being made in this game even Mortal Kombat 11 has terrible animation
Well, Shinnok's, actually. He is a fallen Elder God, so him manipulating everyone actually isn't a huge stretch. They might come back "brainwashed," but that sort of thing was done before. Be interesting to see though, and if they get restored, even some of them, somehow. I'd be surprised if Sub-Zero stays dead (and a cyborg).
I know this video is from 2012, but couldn't it be possible that the act of Raiden sending a message back in time, itself be the cause for all the changes like the MK 2 & 3 characters being there? I actually enjoyed the fact that it was a new re-telling of the first trilogy of games when I first played it, but years later I do see your points on how stuff like that doesn't make sense.
Honestly? Yeah. I really don't want the series to end with this. The ideal situation would be to forget about this one and do over but a lot of people actually liked the story for some reason. So best case scenario is that they have the next game end with the heroes revived, Quan Chi torn apart by Scorpion and the situation better off than the end of Armageddon.
Lots of surprises did happen though, so for all we know, Quan Chi will die in the next title. Throughout all of Mortal Kombat (2011), he was acting on Shinnok's behalf (though of course he does have his own motives). For the good guys, depends if they bring in other characters from later releases or new characters altogether. New characters seems likely. Yes, the "souls" still having their cybernetics doesn't make sense.
Yes, I know about pressurised water.
Why do you hate Kratos?
@@WuWeiAllDay consider all he was at the time of 2011, an angry bastard who quite literally was just a outlet for a player to kill things. I don't understand why he said he doesn't like the games but i get thinking Kratos isn't a very good character. Funnily enough now its reversed, the character is way better but the game is now a mess.
(Edit: pretentious was a wrong word choice)
@@BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian To be fair, Kratos did have character and did have a 'descend into madness' type setup with all that's happened to him. Tricked into killing loves ones, cursed to wear their ashes, being double crossed by the gods on a few occasions, having to fight and kill his long lost brother that he searched for ages to find, ect.
I think some of these alone could make someone snap, but * do like his development in the new God of War, hopefully they do improve and quicken the pace of the gameplay in Ragnarok.
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Things that annoyed me most:
1. Raiden had time to save Sub Zero from getting turned into a cyber ninja.
2. Sindel being able to kill half the roster.
They imply she was super charged after Shao Khan took all the souls from Shang Tsung and gave them to her.
Agreed my guy, it bothers me the most that it only looks like she killed a few of them (Jade, Jax, and maybe Sub-Zero) but ended up killing almost all of them, with Johnny Cage *somehow* surviving even after he was involved in trying to kill Sindel. Absolutely mind boggling.
2.1- The roster not using their powers whatsoever
2.2- They going on sindel one per time
2.3- Some of them dying with punches when they survived worse
@@BrowserBen Yet Smoke took down reptile and him? And the fact that Lao beat his alliance? I know Sindel is supposed to be strong but I mean, really? His soul infused with Sindel is not going to stop all of them.
@@BrowserBenthen ermac should be stronger
Microsoft had the chance to have Master Chief as their exclusive but backed out so... oh well for 360.
I wish he was in it, it would be badass
Miles The Dirty Minded Goblin and Marcus Fenix
@@DemonKingHiei yeah but og shiny green Master chief would be amazing in mk9 honestly
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 isn't gears more akin to blood and guts? they should've had skorge in mk9 since raam was in KI
@@corpsemachine6949 yeah, Marcus would be a good fit. His fatalities could be based on the ingame finishers he had
"how can water cut through things"
they have high powered water jets that can cut through metal. i assume thats what they were going for with the water blade for rain.
Yeah, clearly 4thSnake has never watched Avatar
Theoretically if anything is traveling fast enough it could destroy anything like a grain of sand could go threw someone’s skull is chucked fast enough
@@andreahope7254 And grain of sand cannot go through someone's skull are you using your brain that's w complete lie and to make sure I'm not crazy I also looked it up
@@andreahope7254 Did you really just say a "grain of sand" can go through someone's skull ?😂
@@benevolencev7204 Well, technically, if it was thrown by someone with superstrength, it could penetrate someone's skin, but since it's just a grain of sand, I guess that they wouldn't even feel it.
You missed two non-Raiden-related time paradoxes:
1. The Komidoku are now knives instead of amulets (Though to be fair that wasn't shown until after this video came out)
2. Nobody has fulfilled the absurd conditions required to fight Reptile, yet he's the first freaking fight in the game. He also isn't fought at the bottom of the pit
actually the kamidogu daggers aren't a retcon it''s been explained by the creator of the prequel MKX comics that the kamidogu daggers aren't the same kamidogu from the original timeline. the daggers were created by raiden,the originals were created by the elder gods.
A year late but you can find a kamidogu amulet in mkx krypt
there's something I forgot to mention in the original timeline shang tsung's island collapses after mk1 and the prequel comic to mk2 reveals this,yet in mk9's timeline of events the isalnd doesn't get destroyed. also shouldn't kano have gotten captured with sonya like he did in the original mortal kombat 2? in mk9 he is seen making showing weapons to shang tsung in the living forest in smoke's chapter,he should be chained up at kahn's arena.
Hey dip shit screw you fuck in programmer of video games my ass I bet you didn’t don’t even know how to play fucking video game dip shit you realize that you said that can you know should’ve been captured when in the fucking video he said that Kino should’ve been crap shared three times
Lukas Smith No rage.
8 years later this video is still better than the story mode
Nah, this is just 2 hours of him being a whiny bitch.
This is by far one of the best reviews I watched about MK in my life…
I am a fan, but this guy says it all 10 YEARS AGO!!!
I never even realized I hated this little things in MK, because I was used to them..
Great structure, speech and review.
10/10
If Raiden only had time to say 3 words, he could've saved everyone a lot of trouble by saying "Kahn must win" or "Shao must win".
RaxuRangerking then they let Khan win the first tournament and everything’s worse
Nikki Holdmeier, Liu Kang only won the MK tournament because of Deus Ex Machina Elder God Powers that was only recently established in MK11 whereas both of Johnny Cage’s and Cassie Cage’s god killing powers were established in the Mortal Kombat lore from MK1 onwards.
Lord Parbr yeah but they wouldn’t be that stupid to let Kahn with the 10th, they’d probably figure “oh there’s going to be another”. Like what happens.
Or maybe he says "Shao Kahn--" and then Kahn bashes his skull in.
@@jennifercorbett8640 what would make sense since he managed 3 words is shao kahn must- now we have a decent starting point and some vagueness and room for misunderstandings. Past raiden would put it as sha kahn must not win and then eventually piece the correct answer.
This is the video that made me find this channel 10 yrs ago congrats on 100k snake
Well, we all know Quan Chi's plotting against Shinnok like in Mythologies and 4 so he's shaping up to be the main villain, especially with Shang Tsung too dead to form the Deadly Alliance proper.
Sure, they'll be restored eventually but it's stacking things too ridiculously against the good guys, who'll have about 6/7 people tops.
You have to admit though, Kabal, Jax and Sub-Zero's souls still having their tech is kinda stupid.
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Quan chi is my favourite character
Holy cow, this aged well. Apart from the 3 having their souls back. Shang Tsung returns, but I have a bad feeling he will never return after MK11 Aftermath. And Quan Chi I think you know how his fate is already. Bittersweet at best.
MKnine is the new timelines of course everything’s gonna be different
@@khalilm3166 A timeline created via time travel. Everything not directly resulting from Raiden's altered actions should be the same.
@@The4thSnake To this very day, I still wonder HOW or IF Netherrealm would somehow retcon all of the inconsistencies with MK9 concerning the amount of backlash they’ve gotten for how inaccurate its portrayal of the first three games in it are.
My money’s on them going “the Midway timeline was Kronika’s worst and least cohesive timeline” and then just never acknowledging it or the criticisms ever again.
I totally get your hatred for story mode. It burned me up.
Quan Chi dosen't hold a candle to shang tsung.
Although Quan Chi is a badass, he can probably get his ass beaten by Shang Tsung in his MK1 form
Shang Tsung hates Quan Chi himself! That look he had on his face, when he has to fight Kung Lao with Quan Chi was like "you trying to steal my spotlight?" XD
Quan chi gets too much praise!
I like Quan Chi, but he shouldn't have been in this game.
Quan Chi killed the fuck out of Shang Tsung in Deception... I prefer him over Shang Tsung actually
I want Stryker's ending to be cannon
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Aw yeah! That would be epic…
*Too bad it’s not*
YOU? LEADER? HA! this is bad comedy
I don't have a problem with you. I thank you for respecting my opinion. Not sure why you felt the need to delete your other comments but in response to them:
*Quan Chi was only established as recruiting Scorpion in MK4. Prior to that, he'd only indirectly caused Scorpion's death and wasn't involved otherwise.
*Liu Kang and Kung Lao's rivalry from MK:SM was referenced in Kung Lao's MKA ending and his presence on the island and fight with Baraka come from Shaolin Monks.
Even though there's so many details I don't fully comprehend i love to hear this critique. Mk11 critique is gonna be amazing
I like to imagine 1:50:34 to 1:50:51 happened while The4thSnake was eating or sleeping, and Quan Chi just keeps walking in and saying his name over and over until he gives in. He's like a shadow upon The4thSnake's life - such is Quan Chi, the bs sorcerer who thinks he's better than everyone.:D
You're probably right.
But I'd say Kahn is definitely dead. He exploded and then there's Quan Chi's ending (one of the few potentially canon ones).
Here's one for you: Scorpion is Quan Chi's primary henchamn until he kills Sub-Zero. Sub-Zero (now Noob) takes that role for MK2 and 3 until his second death, at which point Scorpion takes the position back. You have to admit, Scorpion really wasn't treated well here, being a tool of Quan Chi instead of neutral and even somewhat heroic at times.
I know how you feel, mr. I honestly wish we had a way more positive or at least a way more satisfying conclusion to the story....... Not freaken genocide and failure.
1.) How did Shao Kahn sneak his big ass behind Kung Lao without anyone noticing or trying to stop him?
2.) How come Jax didn't get his arms back when he died? Does that mean his metal arms are part of his soul now?
1 you underestimate his power
2 metal arms are the only way to make Jax a character people will play
He probably ran fast, which is funny to think about.
I liked mk9 but to be fair i never played the old ones so....
You’re opinion is just...uhhh bad, yeah because you can’t say much about MK9 yes you like it but if you played the games before MK9 your opinion would be different
@@thecriticalghost4626 he meant that without knowledge of the previous Games, he can't see the flaws of mk9
@@kryntor9713 you overestimate his intelligence.
@@sincereeastman6972 This is one of the best games in the series, and I was around for the very first one.
The 3D era games on the other hand... 💩
Always good to find someone who can see the game for what it is. I imagine they'll return as zombies at least for part of the game before being restored at the end. I'm guessing they want it to be that Raiden makes everything worse before he makes it better at the end of the next one.
I hope they have Noob be purified and become Sub-Zero again. He can try to save his brother's soul and they have the potential for a really good plot there as it parallels the original timeline with roles reversed.
I knew I wasn't the only one who thought the Story Mode was fucked up.
Also, if they really wanted to do this story diferently with different plot-points, they should've really just rebooted it completely…
Snake looks so depressed and heart broken this entire video. It's almost like he felt betrayed that one of his favorite things was- OH WAIT
Someone has never played with an industrial water pressure cleaner. It's about as powerful as a sand blaster, and can cut concrete in half almost as well on a high enough setting. So, in short, YES water can cut people in half with a high enough pressure blast.
Looking back at this critique now, it still holds up. If only you knew what you were getting yourself into 4thSnake!
you are THE first true mortal kombat fan to speak up to these issues.BRAVO
1:05:14 "if you don't understand why, you're a fucking idiot" -the4thsnake 2012
Kronika messed up this timeline. Taven apparently made her mad.
That explains why Taven rarely appears in the new timeline, if not at all.
Watches injustice 2 critique binges all the other ones
Watching this in a post MK 11 world says a lot. This use to be the worst thing the series did. But then X came out and while not good i think that story was better. It just needed a bit more time and a second draft. Them 11 came out and destroyed any hope this trilogy had at being some what okay.
Get ready for Cole Young sir. He's the Nail in the Coffin.
I like mk9 in the gameplay perspective other then that it's subpar
Why the fuck does Quan Chi have Shinnok's Amulet on him? He goes right in front of Raiden, with the damned thing secured to his belt, and Raiden does NOTHING. Mythologies still happens in this timeline, so that's even more inexcusable.
"Netherrealm, I won't waste a single penny on any of your games ever again."
There is aging like milk.
And then there is this.
No, I'm complaining because the gameplay is crap and the story is fucking offensive.
1:50:35 4thsnake personal hell right there, listening to "QUAN CHI!!" On a loop
My biggest complaint is how they treated Reptile.
The story mode is incredibly rough. It’s cringe and takes away all tense and terrifying atmosphere MK had prior. Growing up I played mk3 at the arcade by me literally everyday, we hung out there and I remember having a crowd of kids behind me tossing my quarters to beat motaro, I eventually did with jax because it was like MK annihilation lol, we all loved the movie back then, yes it’s trash. MK had a dark scary charm to it and it worked better when you used your imagination to think of the scenarios that would play out while reading bios, endings, lore, so much. I even rented MK trilogy and I kept the manual because I was so obsessed with the art work. When deadly alliance came out I remember freaking out at the aspect of liu kang being killed, I chose kung lao as my main and felt as if I avenged him. Deception comes out and it blew me away with the konquest mode. I’m then in the eighth grade and a new friend I made sat beside me and he was just as nutty for MK lore as me and we had every character jotted down WITH PICTURES in a book and we counted down the days for Armageddon. To this day that is still my favourite MK title. When I got to high school i was focused on my social life, girls, party’s so MK wasn’t in my head until I went to a girls house and she’s playing MK VS DC. I was appalled at what I saw.. I played as liu kang, kicked everyone’s ass but I was so angry at what they did to the series I gave up. At this time I went back to my old fan sites, had my old RUclips videos and for what ever reason I deleted the account. I had bios, fights, lore. MK died. Then when I heard about the reboot I got stoked again. I’ll never forget the day I played it, my brothers birthday and we were all twacked out of our minds and I played it thinking hmm cool but I need to play sober. When I did I was once again appalled at what they did with the story. The game was fun I’ll admit and I loved the fatalities and x rays, me and friends had fun battling one another but the story. Garbage. Mortal kombat has not and will most likely never be the same for me, I’ve played everyday game, own the majority, even now but my god the story in these games are bafflingly terrible. I don’t play the games for the story alone anymore, I turn my brain off and play with friends. Mortal kombat died the day MK VS DC was released.
I played MK9 throughout this whole video on my 360.
"How can water cut through things"
Look up hydroblasting. Specifically the shotgun... saw a man lose almost all the meat of his knee cap to that. It's a real thing
We need more Rage Reviews from you, 4thsnake! Next to your MK11 Critique, this is STILL your crowning jewel!
When I first played the game as a kid I thought Kaui Liang was the one who killed Scorpion's family.
To be fair, so did Scorpion.
What happened to Mortal Kombat also happened to StarCraft. Their sequels released in the 2010s created plot holes, contrivances and retcons that ruined great video game stories.
2:30 - 2:40
Neatherealm: Wanna see me do it again?
It would have been nice if you beat the 300 challenges and you get Goro, Kintaro, and Shao Kahn. As in, beat the first 1pp challenges, you get Goro. Beat challenge 101-200, and you get Kintaro. Beat challenges 201-300, and you get Shao Kahn. That would've worked. Bandage Mileena sounds like something you should get by beating the arcade mode as Mileena.
That end though. 4thSnake, I feel so bad for you. I agree. This story is a friggin train wreck.
I guess I sent you too far ahead. I was aiming for the end of the story section. My main problems are:
*The focus being on 1-3 but still having Quan Chi
*The major focus on Quan Chi
*The way the last 2 chapters go with everyone dying
*The fact that some retcons have nothing to do with Raiden's actions.
There are good things like the voice work (especially Raiden, Kitana and Scorpion), the visuals & designs and some great finishers.
But the game really put me off so I'll be dropping the series.
The4thSnake thought you dropped the series
I think the story mode was a missed opportunity as the writing is very poor. However I quite like the game otherwise!
I would like this video... But I must consult with the Elder Gods first.
Are you back?
@@selpa_dead not yet.
@@zyxluz4645 how about now?
I don't plan to buy any more of their stuff so vote with your wallet definitely applies in my case.
Did I indicate at some point that I didn't know when Babalities were introduced? I don't recall doing so.
Back when Snake was a lot angrier at NRS than he is now.
Yes, there's a lot of retcon that isn't explained. Seemed to me they were taking the opportunity to flesh out overall continuity better. I don't like Quan Chi but they worked him into the earlier stories long before (in MK Mythologies). The second last Chapter took me by surprise, but didn't ruin the game for me, and we'll see if they all actually stay dead.
Keep in mind he died a few times in the original timeline, but came back. In MK, no one ever stay's dead. I can see Quan Chi's Arcade Ladder ending happening somewhat canonically though.
Scorpion had the chance to redeem himself but failed (in the MK1 sections). He then chose to stay with Quan Chi. He could still flip, or he could stay "bad." In UMK3, he started off working with Shao Khan, remember.
funny i got recommended the 2 critiques of this game after the announcement of it being backwards compatible on xbox
At least acknowledge you are in the complete minority
Pretty much everyone agrees that MK2011 was the best MK game ever
The story was decent and the gameplay was phenomenal
The modes were good and it had a decent online mode
Whether I'm in the minority opinion or not is irrelevant. If you have nothing more in-depth to say than that my opinions are somehow wrong, then don't even bother.
The4thSnake what?
I'm not saying your opinions are wrong you idiot I'm saying you could at least acknowledge ur in the minority
The4thSnake although I do agree about the chapter thing in the story
It made every character a jobber after their chapter
GenericWhiteMale I agree with you
@@genericwhitemale9566 why the fuck should he?
Why do you even ask him to? He never brought this up in the video, therefore never denied it.
I was never a fan of the lore in MK, so I enjoyed the story overall.
But you are pretty butthurt.
If his channel dies at some point he should go get a job at neather realm studios and let him write the story
“Cyber Sub Zero has a much better moveset than his human counterpart” (looks at MK9 official tier list, Cyber Sub Zero is in last 💀)
Loved the infamous reference
Late comment. Smokes ending could’ve (and following mkx) been canon since it’s just a flashback
I almost commented an explanation on why Kratos is a great character but then I realised this was made before 2018 so he was still angry at all times
shang tsung was from earthrealm and fights for outworld so why is this a rule? 17:48
If you compare this to mk11 it becomes amazing.
Why is the first 10 seconds of this video so great? Its applicable to everywhere.
I'm guessing they will. Frost may end up working for the villains though, given that the Lin Kuei was retconned to be working for Shang Tsung.
The only heroes I can think of are Raiden, Sonya, Johnny Cage, Kai, Fujin, Kenshi, Ermac, Bo Rai Cho and maybe Darrius, Dairou or Nitara.
Question: Why was Kano originally also held hostage? Wasn't him their "ally"?
Not back then. He wasn't an Outworld ally until MK3.
I assume he'll die since he'll be the sole antagonist of Deadly Alliance unless he revives Onaga or something. I can even see him taking Kahn's place in Armageddon.
They have Fujin, Kai, Bo Rai Cho and Kenshi to add to the three survivors. Maybe Li Mei. I guess it could be an interesting twist if they had Kahn's forces join the heroes to fight Quan Chi.
And did you notice Baraka's absence from the MK3 part. I assumed it was because he wasn't in MK3 but neither were Goro or Kintaro.
Geez Quan chi seems like a mary sue.
You can cut with water at the right preasure and it can even cut through steel
I agree with a lot of your insight of the game since I’m not as a big of fan as you or know the story as well as you, but I watch the videos.
Also, I think the message Raiden sent to his past self should have said, “Khan must win”. Although we still don’t know which tournament should he win in, and how the magic plot item works when he got it, and if it can only use only an certain amount, how far back and how much concentration did he need to send it to the timeline/alternate world desired after been beat to hell.
I respect your opinions, loved Shaolin Monks, and I liked the concept of the game even if it’s cheesy. Wish I had a better conversation for you.
How come whenever Kano blinks his terminator eye does as well?
I'm not sure he did canonically die before. I think it was just for effect/retconned. Hence why his supposed death in MKDA is such a big deal.
True but he switched immediately after learning that Sub-Zero was against Kahn. The writers really struggle with keeping character alignments and motivations consistent. Just like they struggle with having more than two factions in the story.
This game was not bad
While this is an 8 year old comment I still have to ask, why didn't you ever mention the amazing soundtrack this game has.
@@miguelcastillo3723 Because it's all recycled from past games.
@@The4thSnake this is why ur the best RUclipsr u reply to comments after 8 years haha
"In either August or October, 1992, nobody really knows."
Oh you poor Snake. The irony when you found out the game's exact release date.
Holy shit I forgot how scuffed liu kang looked in dcvsmk
Love how they brought quan chi back but not chameleon/khameleon back
I’d say “Kronika did it” but I doubt they thought that far ahead before they made MK11.
lol nrs thinking ahead
@@The4thSnake Lol, NRS thinking.
Hey The4thSnake is absolutely right about MK. It has so many flaws with the game it’s not wonder that it took him two hours to do this video. Just this video alone is probably even better than the MK 2011 story mode and The4thSnake’s video are actually worth getting invested in than all of NetherRealm’s games combined honestly. And The4thSnake, I believe there are a lot of other fans who are not too happy with how the franchise is becoming so you are not the only one who see it bud. In conclusion, great video from Snake, nether realm studios is crap, and I bet Snake and his RUclipsr friends would probably make even better mk games than NetherRealm Studios ever could. Thank for you time.
3:33 Imo, the only one that wasn’t annoying was Stryker’s and won’t be getting old anytime soon because of recent events.
Good evening, I've been watching your rant/take on this game and I must say you make some excellent points. I personally would've like to see Scorpion get what he really wants when instead, he's used deceived and lost for easy ass plot convenience. No you're not the only one who sees it, but you are probably the only one with enough stamina to want to do something about it. Which brings be to ask a question, forgive me if this is dumb: What them to make another game?
Shaolin Monks isnt in continuity..... sorry about all these comments im commenting while im watching lol but it was bullshit when stryker beat kingtaro.... that pissed me off quite alot. btw the reason sindel beats them all is because shes also got shang stungs powers. and hes one of the strongest characters.
By the way, you look like the British equivalent of the Angry Video Game Nerd.
John Ivan Taro english*
To be honest I thought the story was great. That scene where Sindel kills everyone doesn't make them seem weak, it's just Sindel is OP because Khan fused her and Tsung (and the reason he did that is because Tsung is more powerful than Quan Chi) so Sindel basically had her power + Tsung's + every soul Tsung absorbed prior to that.
But I do get what you're saying about Quan Chi being overused here, and their souls randomly belonging to him makes no sense. I don't mind the whole thing about Raiden making a mistake that kills everyone, because it's basically exploring the concept of what happens if a god makes a mistake. Although, the Elder Gods are useless as fuck anyways.
+Phial Substance Yes because Alone Shang Tsung can take on all the heros? Please. He couldnt take on Kung Lao with Quan Chi. But then fused with a just revived and weakened Sindel and Shang Tsungs power was enough to over all of them? Lets not forget Subzero beat Ermac. Who houses many souls as well. Two warriors who beat warriors who house god knows how many soouls. Riiiiiiiight.
RaginDXDemon 🤣😭😂 Exactly I swear you have to be braindead to think this story is anything but asinine
I’m so confused with the shao Kahn death first off why didn’t Raiden warn him about shao Kahn walking right behind him and why does Shao Kahn confess everything to Kitana you think you would need the best warriors possible to win a tournament you would form without the elder gods knowledge but nooooooo
WHAT THE FUCK
Kratos is the best thing to happen to MK. Xbox doesn’t get him because Kratos is Owned by sony
Bodmanford but why did Xbox not get oh I don’t know master chief or some one else
Marcus Fenix would have been better. Never understood the halo hype. That shit was gay
1:59:04 I assumed Noob found out Cyber Subzero was his brother after hearing his voice
Why do you hate Kratos, Snake?
I'm not the biggest fan of MK9 I call it a guilty pleasure I just like all the original characters was brought back Sindel not remembering her past and being evil morely and killing half the roster is arguably the biggest moment in MK history and than kill her own child that part got me the most.
1:45:44 And that's what started the Wasted Potential Series
I hope they don’t put onaga in mk12 cuz that man was a great villain and was hard to stop I don’t want him to get ruined by these writers
I respect your reasoning but completely disagree with your conclusion. I think this was the best MK game since Mortal Kombat II. And it may even be better than MK2.
Some of your critiques are critiques that could apply to just about every fighting game in history.
Why do guys get up from X-ray Moves? For the same reason that guys got up from getting hit by a lightning bolt from Raiden in Mortal Kombat 1992.
MK2 is overrated
I understand that Mortal Kombat may be quite fictious and all, but am I the only one who finds it strange that the Lin Kuei, despite utilizing prehistoric weaponry and techniques at best, have acquired high tech mechanics and robotics and have somehow created cyborgs with it. In spite of seemingly having no surgical experience, or knowledge of prosthetics, given how archaic their garb, fighting skill, structure design and weapons are but they are able to create highly advanced cyborg soldiers while the Special Forces at best have energy beams than oppose to the Lin Kuei who have teleportation, rocket propellants, and holographic projectile nets and at least in the original timeline, pulse blades. A reclusive group of assassins can achieve all this innovation under a small period of time (MK2 to MK3) while the Special Forces, a branch of the US military in canon, has not much to combat this. The only modernized tech I can see that we do not possess is Jacqui Briggs' holographic shield projector in MK11's gameplay and just maybe, Sonya's armed mobile drone
This guy is the only person I've ever heard say they don't like this game
This is my favorite video so far, i just started watching this channel like 3 days ago but ive been laughing my ass off, fuck quan chi with a salt covered cactus.
Oooh this game explains why Sub Zero was fighting for Outworld in the MK Movie (2021)
Because he fought for Outworld in this game
Netherrealm Studios starting from the beginning:
"We, a new company, fuck everything "Midway" have done. Let's throw it into the trash and restart it so we can have "more creativity" in the same fucking box. People will like it and will assume that it's the new beginning."
Yeah, that's how the beginning of this story works.
I'm glad you brought these questions up especially the one about Taven for years I've been wondering wtf happened to Taven I love the 3d era of Mortal Kombat more I love shajinko and other 3d era characters more than the new characters introduced in the next game that really pisses me off even more Mortal Kombat X then Mortal Kombat 11 and especially aftermath story modes crank the f you dial up to infinite I despise the story modes from Mortal Kombat 2011 to Mortal Kombat 11 aftermath
Thanks. As a fan of the original trilogy (especially the first two games), I do disagree with a lot of what you said and felt the game was spot on, really capturing that classic feel while evolving it, but to each their own. Had to start on Beginner to get used to fighters again but can now play on Expert no problem. Very fluid and easy to learn, hard to master gameplay.
Hard to master as in terrible combos the game has no flow
@@loganboyd6609 The game certainly has flaws, as any game does, but flow was not one of them.
@@Juxtapose1313 oh boy how wrong you are the flow of gameplay is choppy even if you were skilled at the game and due to the lack of good animation even if it had good flow it wouldn't feel like it
@@loganboyd6609 To each their own. Looks like we had very different experiences.
@@Juxtapose1313 no it looks like you don't know the bad animation mistakes that are consistently being made in this game even Mortal Kombat 11 has terrible animation
Well, Shinnok's, actually. He is a fallen Elder God, so him manipulating everyone actually isn't a huge stretch.
They might come back "brainwashed," but that sort of thing was done before. Be interesting to see though, and if they get restored, even some of them, somehow. I'd be surprised if Sub-Zero stays dead (and a cyborg).
nostalgia i miss 2012
I know this video is from 2012, but couldn't it be possible that the act of Raiden sending a message back in time, itself be the cause for all the changes like the MK 2 & 3 characters being there? I actually enjoyed the fact that it was a new re-telling of the first trilogy of games when I first played it, but years later I do see your points on how stuff like that doesn't make sense.
Honestly? Yeah. I really don't want the series to end with this. The ideal situation would be to forget about this one and do over but a lot of people actually liked the story for some reason. So best case scenario is that they have the next game end with the heroes revived, Quan Chi torn apart by Scorpion and the situation better off than the end of Armageddon.
I know he is. I'm pretty sure I said that.
41:40 jax needs a hand
I hate the direction of MK9's story mode, but I do love its classic ladder mode
Lots of surprises did happen though, so for all we know, Quan Chi will die in the next title. Throughout all of Mortal Kombat (2011), he was acting on Shinnok's behalf (though of course he does have his own motives).
For the good guys, depends if they bring in other characters from later releases or new characters altogether. New characters seems likely.
Yes, the "souls" still having their cybernetics doesn't make sense.