Dean Brown: Polyrhythms

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • Musicians Institute and Guitar World bring you a series of guitar lessons with some of the top guitar instructors around.
    In this video, Dean Brown gives a lesson on Polyrhythms.

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  • @ghostjazztrio
    @ghostjazztrio Год назад +2

    It's great to have legendary guitarist Dean Brown producing and performing on my new Ghost Jazz Trio album Groovin Smooth to release in March 2023. He's an amazing talent on every level. His contributions to the music world is unmatched and invaluable.

  • @markscountlessbarks
    @markscountlessbarks 3 года назад +2

    I saw Dean Brown in 1983 at Wolfgang's in SF with a young Steve Smith's "Vital Information". Mike Stern on the other guitar! Dean was so bad ass and grooved so wild. It was a life changer. Great teaching here.

  • @keithamyx1215
    @keithamyx1215 3 года назад +1

    In my opinion, The greatest school for the musician there ever IS!

  • @maninthesuit666
    @maninthesuit666 13 лет назад +1

    this is by far the best lesson in the series so far

  • @McNoiseboy
    @McNoiseboy 8 лет назад +2

    This guy's 'Unfinished Business' album is excellent! Adding this to my lessons playlist for sure.

  • @GlennMichaelThompson
    @GlennMichaelThompson 8 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the lesson Dean. I've loved your playing for as long as I can remember. It's obvious you realize the importance of groove, feel, and timing. SO many teachers (and students) concentrate on melody and speed 1st and foremost, which to me is backwards. I'd rather have a great time feel over being able to shred "faster than the speed of music"! lol
    I picked up your dvd Modern Techniques For The Electric Guitarist and am looking forward to spending time with it. Thanks again, for all the great music you put out there.

  • @dorne
    @dorne 13 лет назад +1

    Great lesson Dean. Some would recognize this a funk lesson as well!!

  • @prhdg
    @prhdg 11 лет назад +14

    These examples are not polyrhythms. They are all polymeters 3/8, 5/8, 7/8 etc over a 4/4 beat. A polyrhythm for example 3 against 2 (the most basic) would be the equivalent tapping quarter notes with one hand against quarter note triplets with the other hand.
    So in a 7 against 4 polyrhythm you would put 7 evenly spaced beats on top of your 4 normal beats and the 1 for each count would always fall on the same beat every new bar.

    • @ashishvivian2224
      @ashishvivian2224 4 года назад

      It’s not exactly polyrhythmic but it’s a part of it!
      But he is not completely right. So I agree with you!

    • @Appalachian_trail_mix
      @Appalachian_trail_mix 4 года назад

      Yeah pretty sure kashmir by zep is a polymeter thoigh he saod its polyrhythm in the beginning

  • @mtlhero514
    @mtlhero514 9 лет назад +3

    Cool lesson. Reminded me of King Crimson's album "Discipline". The title track to that album is a cluster fuck of polyrhythms between the two guitarists.

  • @jeremiahrostig2330
    @jeremiahrostig2330 11 лет назад

    i played also poly ryhthms for a long time, but now i know what i have done.
    i think its quite helpful upload, and thank you for this.

  • @Mr.KnowItAll40
    @Mr.KnowItAll40 6 лет назад +1

    This is called Polymeter actually, Polyrhythm means each bar theres two rhythms playing at once, (3 over 4) for example, so the 3 beats would fill the exact space of the 4 beats.

    • @yeyogak32
      @yeyogak32 2 месяца назад

      Totally right. Polymeters are notes that pass over the measures and they align later. Polyrythms are two different metrics working at the same time

  • @chefallen520
    @chefallen520 7 лет назад

    I regret , that I don't really know you but I do know your playing. Thank you for all your contributions.

  • @Skorupq
    @Skorupq 9 лет назад +2

    That's very interesting, thanks for this useful lesson :-)

  • @timehat6781
    @timehat6781 12 лет назад

    I have to go with Mr. Brown's definition of polyrhythm that includes both different groupings of the same subdivisions (polymeter) and simultaneous tempi (tuplets). I think the reaction here at the man's "failure" to mention Meshuggah is a bit silly although I do adore them and they did really start my journey into "serious" music. His Charles Ives reference is spot on, and I would recommend people go check his music out instead of getting sore and being blind about music that isn't tech metal.

  • @got2bharmony655
    @got2bharmony655 9 лет назад +28

    Some of the people commenting here obviously don't know how respected Dean Brown is. Yes he may not be the best teacher on RUclips but he is an awesome guitar player who has been hired by some of the best in the business. How about having the decency of thanking the guy for trying to help less talented and experienced people extend their musical vocabulary. As for who he looks like, who gives a ***!!

    • @speedspeed121
      @speedspeed121 8 лет назад +4

      He may be the best, but he doesn't understand poly-rhythms.

    • @MediHusky
      @MediHusky 7 лет назад +1

      good guitarist =! good teacher

    • @Danumurti18
      @Danumurti18 5 лет назад

      @@speedspeed121 this is polymeter right? I'm little bit confused

    • @nikiw1856
      @nikiw1856 4 года назад

      If its not polyrhythms 2:40 , then what is it?

  • @SeeMick1
    @SeeMick1 13 лет назад

    @summitthescale
    Not to mention that they're homorhythmic as everyone is moving in unison. Most people don't seem to understand what polyrhythm really is.

  • @ianedmonds9191
    @ianedmonds9191 10 лет назад +2

    Might be worth mentioning some guitarists who use this technique all the time.
    A few I've come across:Al Di Meola, John McGlaughlin, Ed Wynne, Frank Zappa, Steve Vai.

  • @tongbei1
    @tongbei1 13 лет назад

    King Crimson w/ Adrian Belew & Rober Fripp were masters of poly rhythm.

  • @marcoleung7137
    @marcoleung7137 11 лет назад

    good stuff teacher, i m the student of you in your ensemble from HK.
    miss your class, and you!

  • @ianedmonds9191
    @ianedmonds9191 10 лет назад

    That was a really great lesson.
    Thanks.

  • @slunkzilla
    @slunkzilla 13 лет назад

    @MooseyFate100 agreed. one of his bests, amazing track, definitely worth checking out!

  • @frankie.d1127
    @frankie.d1127 8 лет назад

    Awesome lesson!!!

  • @tuhsdxas
    @tuhsdxas 11 лет назад

    Syncopation is a bit more general. It refers to notes not played on the downbeats. Polyrhythms are multiple specific patterns occurring at once

  • @supremoluminary
    @supremoluminary 11 лет назад

    "To make this a little more dramatic, just play the accents and now you'll really be able to hear the polyrhythms."
    What you are doing, accenting a normally weak beat, is called "syncopation". It is also an ostinato.
    Polyrhythm is simultaneous, different and contrasting rhythms, involving some odd number, such as 3 on 2, 5 on 2, 9 on 2 (as in my video response), and many more.

  • @nuke97
    @nuke97 12 лет назад

    Excellent upload.

  • @standindarkness
    @standindarkness 13 лет назад

    @OGodTheTubes This should be one of the highest rated comments.

  • @mcdefmarx
    @mcdefmarx 13 лет назад

    @Guitareben Triplets over quavers can be thought of the same way as two seperate time signatures; e.g. 12/8 over 4/4

  • @AndreaBoccarusso
    @AndreaBoccarusso 11 лет назад

    I was thinking the same thing. Doesn't polyrythm the different subdivision of a measure by different parts of music? For example, a drummer who plays quarter notes with the kick and, simultaneously, quarter notes in 6 with the ride/hi-hat? I know polyrythms in this way ... maybe I'm wrong

  • @c4bb4g3
    @c4bb4g3 13 лет назад

    @perfectmelon it's just an expression meaning that they do it very well. nobody honestly believes they started it, unless they just began listening to music

  • @summitthescale
    @summitthescale 13 лет назад

    @Steve128967 Thank you. Meshuggah and Periphery are pretty much 4/4 all the time. Love the music though.

  • @devd27
    @devd27 7 лет назад

    Great lesson, Jeremy Irons.

  • @TheAdambee7
    @TheAdambee7 6 лет назад

    King Crimson Discipline album is a good one for polyrhythms

  • @JoeKataldo
    @JoeKataldo 13 лет назад

    @PSIboy66 heheh right, but they use cross rhythms more

  • @RicardoDiazHimself
    @RicardoDiazHimself 13 лет назад

    @MaartenIB Thats a sick ass song! more than polyrithms i think the cool thing about lateralus is that it has Lots of time signature changes

  • @TheHumbuckerboy
    @TheHumbuckerboy 7 лет назад

    Interesting looking guitar ! I like it.

  • @PinkchrisFloyd
    @PinkchrisFloyd 11 лет назад

    Very useful, thanks a lot.

  • @AaronQ1222
    @AaronQ1222 8 лет назад

    It's definitely more calculated. You have to feel it out, but you also have to really be counting the beats.

  • @rygar7483
    @rygar7483 13 лет назад

    @c4bb4g3 because they mostly use polymeters, syncapation and rythmic displacement. But yeah I do get sick of the only band that comes to mind when talking about this even though I do like them. It's like 50% of the comments is saying something about meshuggah.

  • @Jamescornelison
    @Jamescornelison 11 лет назад

    blew my mind, thank you for this

  • @xmsparker
    @xmsparker 9 лет назад

    That was a cool lesson

  • @TheMetalHeaD256
    @TheMetalHeaD256 13 лет назад

    @ibanezbloke that's really cool, man.

  • @augustusbetucius2931
    @augustusbetucius2931 Месяц назад

    He could have any guitar he wanted, yet he used that Roland GR controller guitar. Obviously because he liked it and they played well, (which they did, I owned one with a GR 700 and 300. They were as good as the best Japanese made guitars). So he was more about what worked, rather than what was cool.

  • @davidliu81211
    @davidliu81211 11 лет назад

    Really helpful video, thx!

  • @TheMetalHeaD256
    @TheMetalHeaD256 13 лет назад

    @SidVicious10101 stuff like Primal Concrete Sledge, the outtro to Domination, and Live In A Hole stand out to me. i only have Cowboys from Hell and Vulgar Display of Power so i'm sure there's a lot more.

  • @S0nArch
    @S0nArch 11 лет назад

    gotta love them polyrhythms

  • @Bentonias
    @Bentonias 13 лет назад

    Biffy Clyro right? This was a really cool lesson.

  • @tegolin
    @tegolin 13 лет назад

    Chaos of Forms by Revocation!

  • @drjazz7278
    @drjazz7278 5 лет назад

    Top tutorial. Thanks... And thanks for reminding me of the Banana Splits... (06.00)

  • @summitthescale
    @summitthescale 13 лет назад

    @ZeppelinRules Those groove patterns get old really quick, but I do love when they are used sparingly. Sometimes it can give a song super groove like in Icarus Lives by Periphery. Not a fan of bands that base every single song off of sporadic chugging though.

  • @BullToTheShit
    @BullToTheShit 9 лет назад

    ♪ In the last example he says he's adding one extra 16th "note" to make it a 7-note phrase, but that's a little misleading. He adds a 16th-note "rest", not an extra note. He's still playing only six notes.

  • @EternalCosmicTruthOrchestra
    @EternalCosmicTruthOrchestra 11 лет назад +1

    I think this video is describing polymeter, not polyrhythm. Much respect, from an old MI graduate (1982).

  • @guitarralaraja
    @guitarralaraja 11 лет назад

    Right!!! Confusion between polyrythms v/s polymeters

  • @TheMetalHeaD256
    @TheMetalHeaD256 13 лет назад

    i love polyrhythms. the best ones are in heavy metal, IMO. like Pantera.

  • @ianedmonds9191
    @ianedmonds9191 10 лет назад

    I was totally comfortable in my ability to play what he demoed until that last phrase.
    And I had the thought that sounds like John McLaughlin.
    I need to practice rests in my Polyrhythms.
    Godammn that's a hard word to spell, never mind.
    Luv and Peace.
    :-)

    • @bulzah
      @bulzah 10 лет назад

      if u are intersting in John McLaughlin music and the way the hes mind work about rhythm u must learn some basics of Konokol

  • @physicalremoval24
    @physicalremoval24 13 лет назад

    @TheMetalHeaD256 or meshuggah :) meshuggan and pantera are both in my top 4 bands :)

  • @Megadedly
    @Megadedly 13 лет назад

    @breaker9 The Faceless use 'em as well.

  • @kongerle
    @kongerle 13 лет назад

    You had me at Charles Ives!!! :)

  • @c4bb4g3
    @c4bb4g3 13 лет назад

    previous comments saying that Meshuggah don't use polyrhythms because they're in 4/4...what did Dean Brown just do? did you not watch the video? everything was in 4/4.

  • @RicardoDiazHimself
    @RicardoDiazHimself 13 лет назад

    Ive always do this kind of things, and never realized i was doing polyrithms, ive always tought i was just playing with the accents and group of notes to give a counterpoint or syncopation kind of feel...
    Nice!

  • @sihplak
    @sihplak 10 лет назад +3

    Wish some people would do videos on polyrhythms against odd time signatures, like 5/16 against 7/8.

  • @JeffPenaify
    @JeffPenaify 11 лет назад

    I been playing polyrhythms for years and never knew it o.0

  • @shayne881
    @shayne881 2 года назад

    I can play them and feel them all right.But when I stop and think of analyzing them it all messes up and I if I should stop the intellect from questioning.And that goes for "weird" chord voicings I sometimes play ,wanting to know what is it...where is it going to go now? Thanks a lot.

  • @WalrusDoom
    @WalrusDoom 13 лет назад

    There are a lot of notes here and also I've noticed some guitar strings

  • @420aloha420
    @420aloha420 11 лет назад

    that guitar looks fucking comfortable

  • @AnarchoTeenPunkNL
    @AnarchoTeenPunkNL 9 лет назад

    i'm gonna do this at bass

  • @TheHumbuckerboy
    @TheHumbuckerboy 3 года назад

    What model of guitar is this ? It looks very appealing 😃

  • @hoowoah
    @hoowoah 13 лет назад

    Scale The Summit!

  • @nblax41
    @nblax41 13 лет назад

    Meshuggah play in 4/4 people. They just have long patterns that make it seem polyrhythmic.

  • @pokopiko1942
    @pokopiko1942 9 лет назад +12

    not to mention the masters of polyrythming...Meshuggah!

    • @MrSaiLikesPie
      @MrSaiLikesPie 8 лет назад

      Meshuggah!

    • @liamseven8971
      @liamseven8971 8 лет назад

      I was just thinking that!

    • @sdrbox
      @sdrbox 8 лет назад +2

      and Periphery!

    • @MrSaiLikesPie
      @MrSaiLikesPie 8 лет назад +1

      animals as leaders. I met Tosin Abassi and Matt Garstka

    • @Eddieshred
      @Eddieshred 8 лет назад

      How about Brian Ferneyhough :)

  • @c4bb4g3
    @c4bb4g3 12 лет назад

    I don't understand what you're talking about. He has a 4/4 groove and he's playing different note groupings/accents over top of it. That's pretty much all you hear out of Meshuggah

  • @TheStratman707
    @TheStratman707 13 лет назад

    ..rhcp are one of the best at this

  • @zackyandhisguitar
    @zackyandhisguitar 13 лет назад

    @mcdefmarx dude your talking about poly meters when u put it in those terms

  • @DECIFERTHIS09
    @DECIFERTHIS09 9 лет назад

    poly rhythm with a quick delay is my shit, just a strong building percussive sound.

  • @ROCKSESBWNR
    @ROCKSESBWNR 7 лет назад +2

    but does it djent?

  • @hginct
    @hginct 11 лет назад +1

    what he's describing and playing are contradictory. he describes polyrhythms fine (two contrasting pulse or subdivisions), but he ends up playing polymeters in a two bar 4/4 context, which means the 3/16 pulse, 5/16 pulse, ad 7/16 pulse end up being cut short in order to fit in those two bars. he really should have made that distinction before going into any further detail

  • @antyplastyka
    @antyplastyka 11 лет назад

    Seems i do use those in my playing but i can't djent nor count the notes yet. Damn so frustrating

  • @cbr0oks
    @cbr0oks 12 лет назад

    so polyrhythms are just beat phrases in a different time signature, correct?

  • @zxcvbs
    @zxcvbs 9 лет назад

    Hi this lesson is great but too short. Can anyone point me to polyrhythm lessons, book applied to guitar? is there any transcription of this?

  • @MooseyFate100
    @MooseyFate100 13 лет назад

    Listen to Buckethead - Thai Fighter Swarm. He's doing shit there that I can't even fathom, rhythm wise.

  • @sentris
    @sentris 13 лет назад

    Im still trying to figure out TesseracT's stuff, some of it ive gotten used to just by muscle memory but can someone tell me their patterns they have going on or something?

  • @SonicBoomerang01
    @SonicBoomerang01 13 лет назад

    I plea ingorance guys lol Can someone please tell me about the guitar he's playing? Neal Schon played one live with Journey for a few years but I never knew exactly who made them or where to find them. Looks Fender-esque but The logo on the headstock shows that to be wrong. Please help guys!!! lol

  • @taylorshred
    @taylorshred 12 лет назад

    @c4bb4g3 most band use polyrhythms without knowing, its just the nature of music.

  • @avyanez
    @avyanez 13 лет назад

    Where did you get the purple guitar?

  • @toneseeker87
    @toneseeker87 7 лет назад +1

    where have you been all my life?

  • @JohnBenoit46290
    @JohnBenoit46290 13 лет назад

    @TheMetalHeaD256 They used polyrhythms? What songs?

  • @Ulveren
    @Ulveren 11 лет назад

    Charles Ives reference, FTW.

  • @1herbiekritzer
    @1herbiekritzer 9 лет назад +12

    just say . . hippopotamus hippopotamus hippopotamus hippopotamus . . a good way to count 5.

    • @TriggerHappyGamers
      @TriggerHappyGamers 9 лет назад

      herbie kritzer This actually helped me understand the theory quite well. ^

    • @kelvinmalakar
      @kelvinmalakar 7 лет назад

      Or any word or sentence with syllables accordingly.

    • @dukeellington1987
      @dukeellington1987 5 лет назад

      Simple and brilliant

  • @LukasParzinger
    @LukasParzinger 13 лет назад

    @FatGuyWithAKatana
    MESHUGGAH MESHUGGAH MESHUGGAH!
    "Beams of fire sweep through my head ..."

  • @TheBlackDahlia815
    @TheBlackDahlia815 13 лет назад

    @Guitareben what are polymeters?

  • @helloimbrandon
    @helloimbrandon 13 лет назад

    Meshuggah!
    Fredrik Thordendal!

  • @jambac
    @jambac 11 лет назад

    Hilarious!
    that comment sounds like a dad yelling at his kids.
    "what did I just say? I will turn this youtube video around right now!"

  • @nblax41
    @nblax41 13 лет назад

    @PSIboy66 Because 90% of their music is in 4/4. Thats why.

  • @rogerzibell3489
    @rogerzibell3489 6 лет назад +1

    I watched this twice. Dean is the one needing a lesson....... more then one actually.

    • @GmzMusik
      @GmzMusik 5 лет назад

      Leave my teacher alone lol

  • @Marol2137
    @Marol2137 13 лет назад

    @TheMetalHeaD256 hm where?

  • @mrmikespence1964
    @mrmikespence1964 6 лет назад +1

    "JAZZ!MUSIC GREAT" (DB)! (THE! JAZZ!MAN)! *MIKE SPENCE!

  • @DYZSYX
    @DYZSYX 12 лет назад

    what brand is that guitar?

  • @Axional_X
    @Axional_X 7 лет назад

    Mind explode

  • @TheDrumminMan08
    @TheDrumminMan08 13 лет назад

    @summitthescale You're ProgJazzMath on UG right? Haha small world!

  • @hideki12345
    @hideki12345 13 лет назад

    want poyrythms ? check out vildhjarta, monuments, atlanticore, meshuggah, periphery, tesseract, animals as leaders

  • @bobsumner1667
    @bobsumner1667 7 лет назад

    Kashmir is 4/4 with the accent on 1 and 3