Karate is great for kids now because instructors know how to teach kids now but in the 70s my experience was a little different. I joined a school run by a 1st gen student of Mas Oyama (kyokushin founder) and he was hard, his classes were hard,brutal, i crawled out of each class absolutely miserable (i was a really scrawny 12 yr old). It was a totally diferent experience to the old judo dojo my parents put me in as a little kid and actually put me off martial arts until i was in my 20s and discovered TCMA. TKD is good for kids now as well.
Idk, man. I took Shotokan Karate lessons when I was a kid in the 2000s and I feel like I barely learned anything. We mostly just did katas instead of actually sparring. Your experience sounds intense but you probably learned a lot more about self defense than I did
@@MrGrimlocke yeah i guess it comes down to the school, the teacher and the culture its operating in. Now many schools in the west are scared of getting sued so many wont be comfortable with kids fighting incase of injury. Having said that many schools invest in pads and protection and provide a safe controlled space for kids to spar especially TKD. In Australia in the 70s(working class areas) we didnt even know what suing was, fighting was normal and kids had to toughen up, if you were bullied your parents dealt with it by sending you to boxing or karate classes and expected you to learn how to defend yourself. Thats what they payed for.
@@FightCommentary yeah, even here in Thailand things change. Little kids still fight in muay thai but there are no head strikes because the have been child fatalities.
@@FightCommentary with Jesse Enkamp, you’ll learn so much about the history of martial arts because he focuses on the history and traditions. He even has a playlist of searching for the history of karate all the way back to China where he trains in Okinawa and with Chinese crane style kung fu masters in China
Funny how most of our fight stories happened when we were little, I guess that's when we were immature to the point it was easier to just brawl it out. And because we were immature, people (students, staff, parents) could forgive us more easily than if we were teenagers or adults, especially when the damage we could inflict would be lethal.
admittedly it might have something to do with the lack of chauvinism in men's ethics nowadays and their passive-aggressiveness, many men still act through the scenario as they would as children.
Karate shotokan was my First approach in the world of martial arts, even if now i'm a conviced user of kick-boxing muaythai and kyokushin for my striking i can defenetly Say that karate Is One of the fondament of my fighting style, knowing karate expecially during my childhood was really a Life saving tool 🥋🥋
Very interesting and relevant discussion for any age! You and Seth had a great rapport going. Love the background, also, along with the “do not feed the squirrels,” and “DANGER sign! Jerry, maybe you could do more locations like these and bring your own “interview with Jerry” signs (and highlight any surrounding signs like with a focus shot?)! My main actual “fight” was with a local kid who kept challenging me, and I defeated with the exact two same judo moves (one trip, one hold): Three times! As SS was saying, learn a few moves can be best? I actually hardly knew any more than this at the time anyway. (Kobe’s little friend strolling along there and checking out what you guys were discussing?)
The funniest thing about "Go to Combos" that's just muscle memory. Snake's 3 hit combo from MGS3, the One-Two into Low Kick... It's surprisingly legit. Lol.
What's with basketball always getting into fights. Had my fight there as a mid teenager - found out the coat hanger actually works. Thank you, Steven Seagal.
Meanwhile the polar opposite to the chop would be the palm. My main style is grappling and I dont enter cages or rings, only self defense. So most my life all I ever used were palm strikes. Palm strikes transitions well into traps and joint manipulation. Plus you dont need to worry too much about proper fist alignment to avoid injuries especially in a situation where you are caught off guard. The total momentum of the strike is the same. Its only spread out to a larger area
Awesome collaboration, loved it, very interesting discussion. I figured Seth didn't have any fights to talk about, he is just too nice and chill of a dude 😆
I would love to come out there and show you some older judo, especially hands. (I'm 32) but was taught by my dad who's sensei was from japan. Been following you for years bro. Love the content. Keep it up.
from a self-defense standpoint, I almost think that training younger students is the only thing that makes sense. For the vast majority of us, the only time we're routinely in fistfights is in primary school. In the unlikely event we are in a self-defense situation when we're, say, 35, there's very likely to be a weapon involved or multiple attackers (that is, the seriousness of the attack is stepped way up over getting in a fight with a bully in 9th grade) in which case being really good at boxing or whatever is very unlikely to save you anyway. There's a very small window in which training for self-defense is practical. I often hear arguments of "I'd rather just be prepared no matter how unlikely," but is putting in 5-10 years of regular training, spending thousands of dollars, and having numerous minor injuries with probably a handful of serious ones a logical way to prepare for a situation that's very unlikely to happen anyway? I'm not saying that self-defense isn't a plus of practicing martial arts into adulthood, it certainly is, but as a primary motivator it makes little sense to me, particularly in jurisdictions where you can arm yourself more practically.
Repetition is key in any martial art. It is very boring to train the same stuff over and over again, but if you're to be able to defend yourself properly and effectively, repetition will always be on your side.
Seth, Mike, Shane, kwon, ramsey, Knight, jesse enkamp are the avengers of youtube Chucks, fight bible, martial arts journey, fight smart and nick drossos are the justice league of youtube
I’ve commented on Seth’s channel that I hope that he goes to Okinawa to see how his training and the Okinawan karate training differ, even suggesting going with Jesse Enkamp.
@@FightCommentary that’s gonna be awesome. If Seth gets to travel to other countries to see how they train their martial arts, it’ll be a great playlist
HAHAHAHAAH :) Seth actually gave Icy Mike a shoutout in the next video I'm editing, so Icy Mike will definitely give a downvote for the next one XDDDDD
Interesting story about the three move karate combo. I wonder if you told uncle Rich about it? I’m sure he would have been pleased or felt justified in teaching you.
As a kid I use to figth in school all the time , now as an Adult , I avoid figths they Hurt everybody in it and you gain a new enemy that Will want revenge
CHOPS ARE SUPOSSED TO INCLUDE THE FOREARM THEY HURT 8:46 also I did fight a lot of other children when I was a child, and I actually never pushed anyone in the face, I just kicked them really really low and then grab them and trip them, afterwards I soccer kicked them in the spine because as a kid I thought it was safer than hitting the face for some reason. (I played as a goalkeeper in football and some kids really disliked me because I didn't suck at it, which is tradition because the goalkeeper is generally the guy that no one wants on their team but I played there because I liked it)
Karate has some sequences that is hard to read until you read you already get some hit...kinda of karate rush,Jin from Tekken and Kazuya use that and actualy Jin moves are heavily based on Kyokushin.Is pretty hard for someone defend against that if is not a karate fighter because is fast,dangerous and not much easy to read,is not like boxing that jab jab right it is very easy to read.
I was an angry kid who got away with a lot in school because I got special treatment for being a bit foreign. I basically experienced in the 90s what a lot of foreigners in China experienced in the 2010s.
It's about not breaking your hand. 500 years ago, a broken bone might have meant amputation. PS: Try a mid range hook, then try a chop using the same motion.
Two things so far, one, we have these exact same moves in the Bagua I study, as does many arts. So I wouldn’t call it “karate” it’s just a kick and a chop or forearm bash. And two, Seth, you don’t want to use just the hand to chop, you use the entire forearm. Watch Hard-to-hurts videos on chops. He has two. I committed on one because he said similar, then he corrected of course, you know because of my comments, by saying the little surface hand chop sucks but the forearm bone strikes are badass.
The missing component Mike is not considering is that Okinawan Karate has a strong emphasis on Te-Kitae (Hand Conditioning), and the target for a shuto would generally be a soft-target, think the carotid artery etc.
What's funny is how people of today think martial arts doesnt work. But after seeing me sparring, they're amased at how quickly, and ahead of time I can block techniques. But it's not magic. It's just repetition. Once you know and assess movement over many years, you know which technique is generally going to follow (respective) to the way the body moves and how it folds, and where the weight distribution lies. To people, it looks like one has precognition, but really, it's merely practice.
Look up Hillbilly kung fu I'm not kidding he really use chops it was on that shown ruclips.net/video/E50TnvzrRvo/видео.html no offense I don't think chops are effective from my Kenpo background but a hammer fist is strong, but a chop faster, look up the video!
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More to come soon!
I'm glad you have more with Sensi Seth coming!
Seeing Seth-sei coming here to discuss martial arts is so cool. Great to see ideas bouncing off between these guys
Seth is on a whirlwind tour of who's who on RUclips
Yep.
@@FightCommentary He should visit Red Chucks!
@@seculardojo7738 ohhh chucks would love that
Just need to go to England and spar with Brad from Fight Bible and then China and train with Ramsey Dewey.
Karate is great for kids now because instructors know how to teach kids now but in the 70s my experience was a little different. I joined a school run by a 1st gen student of Mas Oyama (kyokushin founder) and he was hard, his classes were hard,brutal, i crawled out of each class absolutely miserable (i was a really scrawny 12 yr old). It was a totally diferent experience to the old judo dojo my parents put me in as a little kid and actually put me off martial arts until i was in my 20s and discovered TCMA. TKD is good for kids now as well.
I also trained in Kyokushin except in Japan. The training was tough and I was the only kid there. 😂
Idk, man. I took Shotokan Karate lessons when I was a kid in the 2000s and I feel like I barely learned anything. We mostly just did katas instead of actually sparring. Your experience sounds intense but you probably learned a lot more about self defense than I did
@@MrGrimlocke yeah i guess it comes down to the school, the teacher and the culture its operating in. Now many schools in the west are scared of getting sued so many wont be comfortable with kids fighting incase of injury. Having said that many schools invest in pads and protection and provide a safe controlled space for kids to spar especially TKD. In Australia in the 70s(working class areas) we didnt even know what suing was, fighting was normal and kids had to toughen up, if you were bullied your parents dealt with it by sending you to boxing or karate classes and expected you to learn how to defend yourself. Thats what they payed for.
@@emptyemptiness8372 super interesting to see the cultural differences and how they evolve!
@@FightCommentary yeah, even here in Thailand things change. Little kids still fight in muay thai but there are no head strikes because the have been child fatalities.
Bro sensei Seth be on it with these collabs lol great video guys
He's got a cool one soon on his channel. Hint, the first name of the guy is Tony.
I’m glad that you’re all friends.
You, Seth, Rokas, Jesse. ❤️
Never met Jesse, but I heard he's super cool!
@@FightCommentary with Jesse Enkamp, you’ll learn so much about the history of martial arts because he focuses on the history and traditions. He even has a playlist of searching for the history of karate all the way back to China where he trains in Okinawa and with Chinese crane style kung fu masters in China
Funny how most of our fight stories happened when we were little, I guess that's when we were immature to the point it was easier to just brawl it out. And because we were immature, people (students, staff, parents) could forgive us more easily than if we were teenagers or adults, especially when the damage we could inflict would be lethal.
admittedly it might have something to do with the lack of chauvinism in men's ethics nowadays and their passive-aggressiveness, many men still act through the scenario as they would as children.
Karate shotokan was my First approach in the world of martial arts, even if now i'm a conviced user of kick-boxing muaythai and kyokushin for my striking i can defenetly Say that karate Is One of the fondament of my fighting style, knowing karate expecially during my childhood was really a Life saving tool 🥋🥋
The crossover I never knew I needed
Great crossover. Always love Jerry's energy
Very interesting and relevant discussion for any age! You and Seth had a great rapport going. Love the background, also, along with the “do not feed the squirrels,” and “DANGER sign!
Jerry, maybe you could do more locations like these and bring your own “interview with Jerry” signs (and highlight any surrounding signs like with a focus shot?)!
My main actual “fight” was with a local kid who kept challenging me, and I defeated with the exact two same judo moves (one trip, one hold): Three times! As SS was saying, learn a few moves can be best? I actually hardly knew any more than this at the time anyway.
(Kobe’s little friend strolling along there and checking out what you guys were discussing?)
Props to sensei seth on owning up to starting that fight when he was a kid. Pretty humble
The funniest thing about "Go to Combos" that's just muscle memory.
Snake's 3 hit combo from MGS3, the One-Two into Low Kick...
It's surprisingly legit. Lol.
What's with basketball always getting into fights. Had my fight there as a mid teenager - found out the coat hanger actually works. Thank you, Steven Seagal.
As a kid it was always the soccer field at my school. I would wait there just for the fights.
Meanwhile the polar opposite to the chop would be the palm. My main style is grappling and I dont enter cages or rings, only self defense. So most my life all I ever used were palm strikes. Palm strikes transitions well into traps and joint manipulation. Plus you dont need to worry too much about proper fist alignment to avoid injuries especially in a situation where you are caught off guard. The total momentum of the strike is the same. Its only spread out to a larger area
Awesome collaboration, loved it, very interesting discussion. I figured Seth didn't have any fights to talk about, he is just too nice and chill of a dude 😆
Love your channel bro, great stuff!
Seth is awesome, also thank you Jerry's Uncle for teaching Jerry karate.
Thank you for sharing ☺️.
I hope one day to find Uncle Rich again. He's likely still in the mid-west. Lost touch with him after I moved back to China briefly.
@@FightCommentary I'm sure you will, he might like to hear your throat singing 😄.
Always wanted this crossover
Some karate blocks are also strikes, and they use the forearm, which is safer.
These two dudes are like Batman and robin!
I was thinking Riddler and Bane with me being Riddler and Seth being Bane, but I'll take yours too ;)
I call Robin
Jerry and Seth, the meeting of the Giants (or at least some of my favorite creators) 👍🤣
I would love to come out there and show you some older judo, especially hands. (I'm 32) but was taught by my dad who's sensei was from japan. Been following you for years bro. Love the content. Keep it up.
Sounds great! Are you in the LA area?
Sensei Seth just making the rounds with my favorite youtube martial arts channels
7:50 doggo
ah, the algorithm is revealing these older videos for the first time to me today
Amazing!
from a self-defense standpoint, I almost think that training younger students is the only thing that makes sense. For the vast majority of us, the only time we're routinely in fistfights is in primary school. In the unlikely event we are in a self-defense situation when we're, say, 35, there's very likely to be a weapon involved or multiple attackers (that is, the seriousness of the attack is stepped way up over getting in a fight with a bully in 9th grade) in which case being really good at boxing or whatever is very unlikely to save you anyway. There's a very small window in which training for self-defense is practical. I often hear arguments of "I'd rather just be prepared no matter how unlikely," but is putting in 5-10 years of regular training, spending thousands of dollars, and having numerous minor injuries with probably a handful of serious ones a logical way to prepare for a situation that's very unlikely to happen anyway? I'm not saying that self-defense isn't a plus of practicing martial arts into adulthood, it certainly is, but as a primary motivator it makes little sense to me, particularly in jurisdictions where you can arm yourself more practically.
Great point!
Great story and commentary!
Repetition is key in any martial art. It is very boring to train the same stuff over and over again, but if you're to be able to defend yourself properly and effectively, repetition will always be on your side.
Hell yeah crossover of the century
Ridge hands and chops are good haymaker types of strikes. But if your a little short of target you can injure your fingers
Great video
Dunno how long you've had the shaved head but it really suits you.
Lickable
HAHAHAHA. I don't think I've ever had my head licked. Always been the one to lick heads.
@@FightCommentary no....no.....no...Jerry i really didnt want to visualize that.....but i did.
@@FightCommentary That's one of the sentences that are hard to process because it's so rare, a brand new sentence.
A hammerfist is a fullspeed chop. Change my mind.
Icy mike reference? Bc if not you'd love him.
Seth, Mike, Shane, kwon, ramsey, Knight, jesse enkamp are the avengers of youtube
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Taekwondo master race
I'll have more TKD soon too! Kwonkicker and I will see each other in person one day!
Jerry i love your style
I’ve commented on Seth’s channel that I hope that he goes to Okinawa to see how his training and the Okinawan karate training differ, even suggesting going with Jesse Enkamp.
Yes. Seth is going to do a collab with Jesse Enkamp soon ;)
@@FightCommentary that’s gonna be awesome. If Seth gets to travel to other countries to see how they train their martial arts, it’ll be a great playlist
Two downvotes are Icy Mike and Wonderboy
HAHAHAHAAH :) Seth actually gave Icy Mike a shoutout in the next video I'm editing, so Icy Mike will definitely give a downvote for the next one XDDDDD
Interesting story about the three move karate combo. I wonder if you told uncle Rich about it? I’m sure he would have been pleased or felt justified in teaching you.
Good clip can u do one on shun tai ko please
As a kid I use to figth in school all the time , now as an Adult , I avoid figths they Hurt everybody in it and you gain a new enemy that Will want revenge
CHOPS ARE SUPOSSED TO INCLUDE THE FOREARM THEY HURT
8:46 also I did fight a lot of other children when I was a child, and I actually never pushed anyone in the face, I just kicked them really really low and then grab them and trip them, afterwards I soccer kicked them in the spine because as a kid I thought it was safer than hitting the face for some reason.
(I played as a goalkeeper in football and some kids really disliked me because I didn't suck at it, which is tradition because the goalkeeper is generally the guy that no one wants on their team but I played there because I liked it)
Karate has some sequences that is hard to read until you read you already get some hit...kinda of karate rush,Jin from Tekken and Kazuya use that and actualy Jin moves are heavily based on Kyokushin.Is pretty hard for someone defend against that if is not a karate fighter because is fast,dangerous and not much easy to read,is not like boxing that jab jab right it is very easy to read.
Could you put a space in between Kyokushin and Is
Because there's a . RUclips thinks you created a link and put you in held for review.
ngl Jerry i feel like you had an especially fighty childhood 🤣
I was an angry kid who got away with a lot in school because I got special treatment for being a bit foreign. I basically experienced in the 90s what a lot of foreigners in China experienced in the 2010s.
do chops work tho?
Im not some kind of martial arts master or something, but my gut feeling is that a punch is much stronger
It's about not breaking your hand. 500 years ago, a broken bone might have meant amputation.
PS: Try a mid range hook, then try a chop using the same motion.
I'd recommend Sensei steven seagull's kungfu
Two things so far, one, we have these exact same moves in the Bagua I study, as does many arts. So I wouldn’t call it “karate” it’s just a kick and a chop or forearm bash.
And two, Seth, you don’t want to use just the hand to chop, you use the entire forearm. Watch Hard-to-hurts videos on chops. He has two. I committed on one because he said similar, then he corrected of course, you know because of my comments, by saying the little surface hand chop sucks but the forearm bone strikes are badass.
The missing component Mike is not considering is that Okinawan Karate has a strong emphasis on Te-Kitae (Hand Conditioning), and the target for a shuto would generally be a soft-target, think the carotid artery etc.
What's funny is how people of today think martial arts doesnt work. But after seeing me sparring, they're amased at how quickly, and ahead of time I can block techniques. But it's not magic. It's just repetition. Once you know and assess movement over many years, you know which technique is generally going to follow (respective) to the way the body moves and how it folds, and where the weight distribution lies. To people, it looks like one has precognition, but really, it's merely practice.
Let’s see what happens when Sensei gets taken down and put on his back.
He did some collabs with Ryron. So check those out on his channel ;)
Look up Hillbilly kung fu I'm not kidding he really use chops it was on that shown ruclips.net/video/E50TnvzrRvo/видео.html
no offense I don't think chops are effective from my Kenpo background but a hammer fist is strong, but a chop faster, look up the video!
Is it true that Karate is from China or south east Asia?
Yes, many styles of Karate (especially of the Okinawan persuasion) are from Shaolin and other southern styles.
@@FightCommentary so karate is kung fu😁