@@moh502 are you talking about cloning or really him if you said that because of the rise of Skywalker, it's a clone knowing that the real palatine is still dead but a clone of him took over
yeah, it's a shame that they never made a third film trilogy. george lucas probably could've done something pretty cool with the extended universe comics. shame that will probably never happen now...
@theswags9675 Ironic. He killed his own master too Edit: if I recall correctly Palpatine killed his master in his sleep. Anakin killed his master while taking the full force of his attack.
Watching this when it came out in May 1983 I was absolutely on the edge of my seat horrified at Luke being slowly killed by the force lightning from the Emperor. People were gasping and yelling in despair and the moment Vader grabbed the Emperor and threw him into the core shaft man oh man it was as if the roof came off the theater, people were clapping and crying and shouting with absolute relief and joy. When a movie draws a reaction from the crowd like this scene did that memorable opening day in May 1983 you know it never ever get old!!👍
@@PopcornGirl2You just had to be there . I'm not exaggerating it was so powerfully dramatic. I will never forget this all the days I live!! I'm so glad to have been part of that generation fortunate to have seen this when it came out in May 1983!!
@@geraldwilson681As someone who also watched all three of the Star Wars films in the cinema, you're absolutely right about the reactions of people in the theatre! We were all caught up and so emotionally invested in the events, and this climactic scene caused many loud groans and cries of "no!" when Luke was being attacked by Palpatine. Everyone thought he might be killed and then deafening cheers rang out when Vader grabbed the Emperor and hurled him into the shaft down to his death. It was absolutely a once in lifetime event and I'm so glad I was part of the generation to experience it!
I saw this only in tv years later and my reaction was just the same as yours. You had a great privilege to see this on the theather for the First time. I saw this movie on theather in 1997 and even knowing everything that happens was a great sensation.
dumpling dump Palpatine was the most powerful force user in the galaxy at that time at least. It is arguable that Luke surpassed him in power in EU, but Luke at this point, although being pretty dang good, was just not as powerful as palp.
+Will M also palpatine was so consumed by the dark side that he did not understand love, so when vader threw him he did not understand what was happening
dumpling dump I don't think that's true. Honestly I think Palpatine didn't understand what was happening because he had too much faith in Vader. That's just my opinion though :)
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Sidious? I thought not. It’s a story the Jedi would not tell you. It’s Sith and meme legend. Darth Sidious was a dark lord of the Sith. So powerful and so wise. He had such a knowledge of the Dark Side, the only thing he was afraid of was getting thrown down a 65 story reactor shaft, which of course, eventually he did. He taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him. Ironic. He survived an attack from his lightning blast, but not a fall from a great height.
You should have a problem with them literally cheaply copy and pasting a random terrible whiny cry from the prequels into the pinnacle scene of the original trilogy
That "No!" hits a helluva a lot harder when youve watched everything from The Phantom Menace to The Clone Wars to Episode VI. All the pain, all the loss, all the agony brought to a head watching Luke be killed slowly by the man who caused it all. Truly, a more poetic ending there is not.
It really does. Vader (or rather Anakin, as he's come back) finally realises it's Palpatine who ruined his life and everyone he loved. And he won't let him take his son
Luke was the catalyst for the prophecy while Anakin fulfilled The Prophecy of The Chosen One by killing Dooku and Palpatine. The only Force Lightning users seen on film.
I’m sorry but as a 7 year old in 83 when I saw this for the first time in the theatre Vader not saying anything but simply picking up and throwing the emperor was Uber cool to watch. The “niiiioooooo” just spoiled the perfect scene. But I gotta say losing “nub nub” ewok song is the best decision Lucas ever made. Even as a 7 year old I found that pretty cringe worthy at the time and it didn’t get better with age either
If you will not turn to the dark side, then perhaps she will." It's interesting to think about what Obi Wan said about only Sith dealing in absolutes, because as Luke says "Never!" and attacks, he's dealing in an absolute and tapping into anger and aggression. Which is almost guaranteed what the Emperor and Darth Vader were trying to accomplish, bait Luke into acting from there. Thankfully, Luke realized what was going on and stopped when he saw what was going on.
I'm pretty sure what obi wan said was to show again how Jedi view was flawed too. Saying that only sith deal in absolute is literally saying something absolute making a big contradiction
@@tooru-kun4178 Agreed 100%. Either way though there were little things intentionally done in the prequels that tie into the originals and this may be one of them. Personally I took Obi Wan's prequel absolutes line slightly differently, very similar but slightly different - that the Jedi were operating from more of a dark sided place than they realized, that they had been corrupted by it themselves and didn't really even see it, which I think kind of ties into the whole Mace/Yoda exchange about how their ability to use the force was diminished. There was at least some small awareness at the top something was wrong with the Jedi, even if they ultimately didn't do or say anything about it. Speaking of a Jedi doing something dark sided, how about the end of the Mustafar duel? Leaving a crippled and helpless man alone to burn in agony and likely die? Not light sided by any definition I can think of!! Pretty dark sided in fact!
Luke won by refusing to kill Vader, getting his anger back under control and not allowing Palpatine the satisfaction of corrupting him to the dark side and controlling him like his dad Anakin. That act of defiance from Luke, annoyed Palpatine because he failed to manipulate and corrupt a Jedi to the dark side for the first time ever, He then proceeded to kill Luke with his force, displaying that sadistic face, later turning to anger, rage and hatred. Palpatine thought he had broken Vader to the extent that he won't fight back, boy was he wrong Anakin had finally broken free from the dark side and Palpatine's control over him, picked him up and threw him down the reactor shaft to his death. He was not going to idly stand by and let Palpatine take away what he had left of Padme, his son Luke and kill him. Luke was right, Palpatine was cocky and it became his demise in the end.
What a beautiful sacrafice and cathartic moment. I sure hope they dont shit all over it and make it lose most of its meaning by bringing palpatine back for vague reasons decades later...
I cried when I saw that, this is a dad saving his son and all the pain he had as the chosen one at one moment, just payback and love! This is awesome, and btw FU Disney for bingim Palpetine back and try to destroy this moment of perfection. He is the chosen one !
One of the greatest lessons I learned in life was from this scene. A father is supposed to be there for his children, no matter what. Especially in times of trouble. My dad taught me this as I watched a conversation between my parents and my father explained to my mother why Darth Vader sacrificed himself to save his son. Later, when I became a dad myself, I was still there for my children (even now as young adults) as my dad was for my brothers and me so many years prior.
I still don't think Vader's "No!" was a necessary addition. (Yep, it was added for the blue ray release. Before that Vader remained silent, he just acted)
damn that made me almost cry vader realizing the torture of luke and how he is special to him, just like padme. He didn't want to make the same mistake losing his son. Sure, he was fighting Luke but he was ordered to by the emperor. Emperor caused so much hate to vader from being turned to the dark side, losing every single friend he possibly imagined, and his wife. Luke was the only person that Vader had so by not killing him, Vader would be free and not have chaos again. Killing the emperor made him free and prevent further mental damage. Sure, he died from killing him but it was a moment of relief and freedom.
I actually was waiting if Vader gonna say No! And it seem for a second I was watching the original until I heard him go No! Then I'm like yup I knew this was gonna happen 😅
All those years later and Vader still hears Yoda's words. "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering" Seeing his own son suffer, no more
I can't overstate how much this trilogy - this scene - affects me now, knowing how much of a huge thing it was for me as a kid. And every year since. It's only with age that you realise the emotional connections that can be formed by a genius musical score such as this trilogy showed throughout - but nowhere more so than the scenes In the throne room here. That look that guy's like me get during those scenes... That's called ALL IN. Meaning I am fully invested. Everything that's going on, every underlying moral story, every life lesson, every father/son moment, every fucking bit of it... sign me up I'm ALL IN.
"After falling down a 66 story reactor shaft, these glasses have been left scarred and deformed. But rest assured, with our repairs, these glasses will be stronger than ever!"
I remember seeing this back in May of 1983 at the end of my 8th Grade year. Saw it with my friends and when this scene happened, my god, everyone including me and my friends were cheering so loud I thought the ceiling was going to fall! And after seeing the sequels and how much Annakin loved Padme...if I were him , right before tossing Palpatine into the core reactor of the Death Star I would have screamed out at him...This is for Padme, f*ck you and die! The best scene in all the movies IMO.
When the emperor was trying to kill Luke with his final discharge of lightning, I can imagine him thinking these thoughts and broadcasting them to Vader: "You fool! I should be the one dying, not him! You should have trained him and then he'd have become more powerful than both of us! He's going to get nothing because you neglected him!
It's also a bookend. Remember, his last big no was when it had all come crashing down on him in a moment what a wicked fool he'd been AND that in the process he'd brought about the very tragedy he'd sought to prevent.
@@I_dcd Well, I can imagine if a movie gets released and this moment was so amazing. Them changing a vital part of it would course dissatisfaction. It ruins the nostalgia of that first feeling you know. But yeah I like it way better.
@@I_dcd Dont get me wrong, I enjoy the vast majority of the SE changes. I grew up on the 04 versions. Im just not a fan of the "No!" Not for the same reason the boomers do though. They hate it because it reminds them of the revenge of the sith scene, which I enjoyed. With that said, I think the silence really works for this scene. I understand why Lucas added it in. He wanted to bring the emotion back in for Vader. I just think it works better as Vader not even knowing how to show emotion anymore. He's known silent compliance for so long that he forgets where he comes from, even at his last heroic act. Its cool if people like the change though.
Both versions of this scene are great in my opinion. OG - The silence adds to Vader pondering whether he should save his son, who by all counts should despise him but sees good in him, and true to Luke's belief, Vader chooses good Edited - The one with the two "no's" adds a small but poignant addition, **the reawakening of Anakin Skywalker.** Luke went through what he did, but never turned to the dark... and right now he was going to lose Luke just like how he lost Padme, and he didn't want to fail Luke like he failed Padme
Palpatine had a contingency plan at that point. 3 in fact if you count the other stuff and sequel trilogy. 1. He haunts everyone to continue his Empire (Supposedly but its based on the books). 2. He uses a droid to use his recordings of giving the Empire orders (Battlefront 2). 3. Cloned himself in advance but used what was left of himself for some reason. (Episode IX)
You know, ignoring all the supplemental material, Legends or Disney (Ahsoka Tano, his knighting and Obi-Wan declaring him "brother", the Darkhorse Empire/ Rebellion, Darth Vader comics by Kieron Gillen or Charles Soule, "Rise of the dark lord" by James Luceno EVERYTHING OUTSIDE THE ORIGINALS AND THE PREQUELS) it's still really moronic for Palps to torture Luke right before Vadee...eer... Anakin's eyes. The Emperor's plan to turn the Chosen One to the dark sideTM was to make him believe he's not loved and make his fear of losing everything cloud his judgement; add that Darth had been spending a lotta time with his son, this was pretty much him acting like a Jawa poking a Krayt Dragon with a lightsaber. Man's made one good plan to become Emperor and then threw away all logic XD
The emporer was defeated because he never even had a concept of what love is. He never saw Vader’s love for his son coming. Palpatine was the epitome of darkness.
Redeemer and destroyer. Pawn and messiah. Anakin mastered both sides of the Force and brought balance. Qui-Gon was right all along, he was the chosen one. His love for his family drove him to the dark side and back.
Just a random finding, why did Vader wait for so long to get rid of the Emperor...how did he know Like will survive for so long? Teaches us about faith running at deeper levels than we can imagine.
& that is the 100% canon death of Emperor Palpatine. Never to return, because the power to return from death is something that would forever elude those who committed to the dark side.
I know ROTJ has some plot issues abd technically issues but i feel like to me it really has alot of great moments. But i will never ever believe that the little tue fighter crashing into the bridge would be able to disable it . The tie fighter would be really way to small to do that much damage to a ship thats that massive maybe if another star destroyer got disabled and crashed into the Super star destroyer that would be more realistic in my mind of taking down that massively strong and powerful ship
I just want to underline that the Emperor does die here. There isn’t any sequel trilogy.
the true Emperor meets his fait knowing he failed to fully control his apprentice
somehow he returned
@@moh502 are you talking about cloning or really him if you said that because of the rise of Skywalker, it's a clone knowing that the real palatine is still dead but a clone of him took over
yeah, it's a shame that they never made a third film trilogy. george lucas probably could've done something pretty cool with the extended universe comics. shame that will probably never happen now...
@theswags9675 Ironic. He killed his own master too
Edit: if I recall correctly Palpatine killed his master in his sleep. Anakin killed his master while taking the full force of his attack.
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They shoot you with lightning too?
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Watching this when it came out in May 1983 I was absolutely on the edge of my seat horrified at Luke being slowly killed by the force lightning from the Emperor. People were gasping and yelling in despair and the moment Vader grabbed the Emperor and threw him into the core shaft man oh man it was as if the roof came off the theater, people were clapping and crying and shouting with absolute relief and joy. When a movie draws a reaction from the crowd like this scene did that memorable opening day in May 1983 you know it never ever get old!!👍
God damn it's hard for me to imagine such a thing 😱
@@PopcornGirl2You just had to be there . I'm not exaggerating it was so powerfully dramatic. I will never forget this all the days I live!! I'm so glad to have been part of that generation fortunate to have seen this when it came out in May 1983!!
@@geraldwilson681 I understand, but I experience it in a similar way.
@@geraldwilson681As someone who also watched all three of the Star Wars films in the cinema, you're absolutely right about the reactions of people in the theatre! We were all caught up and so emotionally invested in the events, and this climactic scene caused many loud groans and cries of "no!" when Luke was being attacked by Palpatine. Everyone thought he might be killed and then deafening cheers rang out when Vader grabbed the Emperor and hurled him into the shaft down to his death. It was absolutely a once in lifetime event and I'm so glad I was part of the generation to experience it!
I saw this only in tv years later and my reaction was just the same as yours. You had a great privilege to see this on the theather for the First time. I saw this movie on theather in 1997 and even knowing everything that happens was a great sensation.
When Vader says “no” I imagine him thinking about Padmé and simply refusing to lose another loved one.
and his mom too
True
He became a Sith to save the ones he loves and every time he has the chance, he either kills them or has to let them die
@owenb8636 but in this scene, he had a choice to save a loved one. And he did
That's cool, unfortunately the reason he turned was because Luke represented the future, not the past which he represses. That's the canonical reason.
The most powerful force user in the galaxy, defeated by being thrown down a hole...
definitely not the most powerful force user
dumpling dump Palpatine was the most powerful force user in the galaxy at that time at least. It is arguable that Luke surpassed him in power in EU, but Luke at this point, although being pretty dang good, was just not as powerful as palp.
+Will M also palpatine was so consumed by the dark side that he did not understand love, so when vader threw him he did not understand what was happening
dumpling dump I don't think that's true. Honestly I think Palpatine didn't understand what was happening because he had too much faith in Vader. That's just my opinion though :)
+Will M actually what I said has been confirmed
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Sidious? I thought not. It’s a story the Jedi would not tell you. It’s Sith and meme legend. Darth Sidious was a dark lord of the Sith. So powerful and so wise. He had such a knowledge of the Dark Side, the only thing he was afraid of was getting thrown down a 65 story reactor shaft, which of course, eventually he did. He taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him. Ironic. He survived an attack from his lightning blast, but not a fall from a great height.
but somehow palpatine returned
@@alceusrydan6237 But we don’t talk about that
@@eightnickel1513 wdym?
@@alceusrydan6237 sequels do not exist(le dot)
Is it possible to learn this power?
I usually prefer the one where vader doesn't say "No", but i have absolutely no problem with him saying it either. I love this scene😊
That’s a lot coming from you
Wow, don't know how I have never seen the 'no' version, better without it.
You should have a problem with them literally cheaply copy and pasting a random terrible whiny cry from the prequels into the pinnacle scene of the original trilogy
@@KurasakiBleachigo1 one of the best examples of show dont tell when you compare the scenes side by side
I like the scene but I don't see how you like it
you fell to your death lol
That "No!" hits a helluva a lot harder when youve watched everything from The Phantom Menace to The Clone Wars to Episode VI. All the pain, all the loss, all the agony brought to a head watching Luke be killed slowly by the man who caused it all. Truly, a more poetic ending there is not.
It really does. Vader (or rather Anakin, as he's come back) finally realises it's Palpatine who ruined his life and everyone he loved. And he won't let him take his son
B-but "somehow Palpatine has returned"
Luke was the catalyst for the prophecy while Anakin fulfilled The Prophecy of The Chosen One by killing Dooku and Palpatine. The only Force Lightning users seen on film.
Not at all the original was much better
I’m sorry but as a 7 year old in 83 when I saw this for the first time in the theatre Vader not saying anything but simply picking up and throwing the emperor was Uber cool to watch. The “niiiioooooo” just spoiled the perfect scene. But I gotta say losing “nub nub” ewok song is the best decision Lucas ever made. Even as a 7 year old I found that pretty cringe worthy at the time and it didn’t get better with age either
If you will not turn to the dark side, then perhaps she will."
It's interesting to think about what Obi Wan said about only Sith dealing in absolutes, because as Luke says "Never!" and attacks, he's dealing in an absolute and tapping into anger and aggression. Which is almost guaranteed what the Emperor and Darth Vader were trying to accomplish, bait Luke into acting from there. Thankfully, Luke realized what was going on and stopped when he saw what was going on.
I'm pretty sure what obi wan said was to show again how Jedi view was flawed too. Saying that only sith deal in absolute is literally saying something absolute making a big contradiction
@@tooru-kun4178 Agreed 100%. Either way though there were little things intentionally done in the prequels that tie into the originals and this may be one of them. Personally I took Obi Wan's prequel absolutes line slightly differently, very similar but slightly different - that the Jedi were operating from more of a dark sided place than they realized, that they had been corrupted by it themselves and didn't really even see it, which I think kind of ties into the whole Mace/Yoda exchange about how their ability to use the force was diminished. There was at least some small awareness at the top something was wrong with the Jedi, even if they ultimately didn't do or say anything about it. Speaking of a Jedi doing something dark sided, how about the end of the Mustafar duel? Leaving a crippled and helpless man alone to burn in agony and likely die? Not light sided by any definition I can think of!! Pretty dark sided in fact!
"Somehow, Palpatine has returned"
Darth Jar Jar brought him back. They where both masters working together.
For me this is when the emperor died and not mysteriously returned
When did he return? Have you been watching poorly written fan fiction again? 😅
Luke won by refusing to kill Vader, getting his anger back under control and not allowing Palpatine the satisfaction of corrupting him to the dark side and controlling him like his dad Anakin.
That act of defiance from Luke, annoyed Palpatine because he failed to manipulate and corrupt a Jedi to the dark side for the first time ever,
He then proceeded to kill Luke with his force, displaying that sadistic face, later turning to anger, rage and hatred.
Palpatine thought he had broken Vader to the extent that he won't fight back, boy was he wrong
Anakin had finally broken free from the dark side and Palpatine's control over him, picked him up and threw him down the reactor shaft to his death. He was not going to idly stand by and let Palpatine take away what he had left of Padme, his son Luke and kill him.
Luke was right, Palpatine was cocky and it became his demise in the end.
What a beautiful sacrafice and cathartic moment. I sure hope they dont shit all over it and make it lose most of its meaning by bringing palpatine back for vague reasons decades later...
trueee!!!!! im so glad they havent done that!! at least not yet anyways...
Yep, if they brought Palpatine back then it would be a huge disaster. Anakin would have died for nothing.
cant wait for him to return again.. somehow
He came back in Dark Empire. Unfortunately, Disney could give a shit less about the EU and didn't make Dark Empire.
@@slasheztech5390 well dont worry they are making the ray trilogy! he right return again!!! somehow...
I cried when I saw that, this is a dad saving his son and all the pain he had as the chosen one at one moment, just payback and love! This is awesome, and btw FU Disney for bingim Palpetine back and try to destroy this moment of perfection. He is the chosen one !
Fun fact: this wasn’t edited, the actor who played Sidious really could shoot lightning outta of his fingers.
luke was right about u sidious your overconfidence is your weakness
Both in the fact that his father will never abandon the dark side of the force and that Luke will switch to it.
It's amazing that in just seven seconds Sidious was able to send Mara Jade a false vision of events and a geas that "YOU WILL KILL LUKE SKYWALKER!"
I prefer the original without the "Nooo!"
It was more impactful when he picked up the emperor without saying a word.
One of the greatest lessons I learned in life was from this scene. A father is supposed to be there for his children, no matter what. Especially in times of trouble. My dad taught me this as I watched a conversation between my parents and my father explained to my mother why Darth Vader sacrificed himself to save his son. Later, when I became a dad myself, I was still there for my children (even now as young adults) as my dad was for my brothers and me so many years prior.
Bungie jumping is a dangerous pastime
I still don't think Vader's "No!" was a necessary addition. (Yep, it was added for the blue ray release. Before that Vader remained silent, he just acted)
damn that made me almost cry
vader realizing the torture of luke and how he is special to him, just like padme. He didn't want to make the same mistake losing his son. Sure, he was fighting Luke but he was ordered to by the emperor. Emperor caused so much hate to vader from being turned to the dark side, losing every single friend he possibly imagined, and his wife.
Luke was the only person that Vader had so by not killing him, Vader would be free and not have chaos again. Killing the emperor made him free and prevent further mental damage. Sure, he died from killing him but it was a moment of relief and freedom.
1:37 anakin got ptsd from windus death
1:47 Anakin: "I shall do what I should've let Master Mace Windu do over 20 years ago!!"
You can see that even Luke looked surprised at Vaders actions.
I actually was waiting if Vader gonna say No! And it seem for a second I was watching the original until I heard him go No! Then I'm like yup I knew this was gonna happen 😅
Yeah... that's why I own the theatrical versions. My kid may be confused when/if he ever sees the remasters...
Is prolly just me but in this scene we’re Vader says nooooo that’s always scared me as a kid with his voice
Vader didn't say NO, so this clip was over dubbed.
The face of Sidious turning from a sadistic grin to just sheer fucking anger always gave me goosebumps, the man is pure evil and I absolutely love it
I believe in his mind he was speaking to qui gon here and also having ptsd flashbacks to his past experiences
And after that "SoMEhoW PAlpAtInE ReTuRneD"
both of Obi Wan & I are great actors
All those years later and Vader still hears Yoda's words.
"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering"
Seeing his own son suffer, no more
Don’t worry he just ends up chilling on Exegol for the next 36 years.
"That was pretty wizard. Wasn't it, son?"
And so you fell :3.
;-;
"Somehow...Palpatine returned"🤣
On Rise of Skywalker! Cloning experiment.
B.I.H Emperor Palpatine, March 21st, 1947 ~ May 25th, 1983.
Stars Wars Return Of The Jedi (1983) | - | Emperor Palpatine's Demise.
I don’t care if fucking Mickey Mouse sues me. This is palpatines death full stop
I can't overstate how much this trilogy - this scene - affects me now, knowing how much of a huge thing it was for me as a kid. And every year since.
It's only with age that you realise the emotional connections that can be formed by a genius musical score such as this trilogy showed throughout - but nowhere more so than the scenes In the throne room here.
That look that guy's like me get during those scenes... That's called ALL IN. Meaning I am fully invested. Everything that's going on, every underlying moral story, every life lesson, every father/son moment, every fucking bit of it... sign me up I'm ALL IN.
Still prefer the version without Vader saying no
What would Palpatine say if he worked at a glasses shop.
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"You will pay the price for your lack of vision."
Lol. This is pretty funny.
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"After falling down a 66 story reactor shaft, these glasses have been left scarred and deformed. But rest assured, with our repairs, these glasses will be stronger than ever!"
@@soniclore I hate you
@@adamdonahue2079 Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate, flow through you!
Palpatine forgot vader is hardcoded to help anyone who is hit by force lightnings
I’m so glad I own a copy of Return of the Jedi that doesn’t have that stupid ass "no no!” at the end
Disney really watched this and said let’s bring palpatine back 😂😂😂
Bet he smiled as he screamed
I have news. Somehow palpatine returned
I wish they would have let the emperor destroy him with lightning.
I remember seeing this back in May of 1983 at the end of my 8th Grade year. Saw it with my friends and when this scene happened, my god, everyone including me and my friends were cheering so loud I thought the ceiling was going to fall! And after seeing the sequels and how much Annakin loved Padme...if I were him , right before tossing Palpatine into the core reactor of the Death Star I would have screamed out at him...This is for Padme, f*ck you and die! The best scene in all the movies IMO.
When the emperor was trying to kill Luke with his final discharge of lightning, I can imagine him thinking these thoughts and broadcasting them to Vader: "You fool! I should be the one dying, not him! You should have trained him and then he'd have become more powerful than both of us! He's going to get nothing because you neglected him!
“Now young Skywalker, you will die” and you immediately see Anakin snap back to reality, ope, there goes gravity · Ope, there goes Palpatine….
I liked the nooo alot. gives more feeling into his lifeless character
It's also a bookend. Remember, his last big no was when it had all come crashing down on him in a moment what a wicked fool he'd been AND that in the process he'd brought about the very tragedy he'd sought to prevent.
Boomers say it's a bad addition when it really gives context to the struggle within Vader
I actually stunned people are stupid enough to like the no.
@@I_dcd Well, I can imagine if a movie gets released and this moment was so amazing. Them changing a vital part of it would course dissatisfaction. It ruins the nostalgia of that first feeling you know.
But yeah I like it way better.
@@I_dcd Dont get me wrong, I enjoy the vast majority of the SE changes. I grew up on the 04 versions. Im just not a fan of the "No!" Not for the same reason the boomers do though. They hate it because it reminds them of the revenge of the sith scene, which I enjoyed.
With that said, I think the silence really works for this scene. I understand why Lucas added it in. He wanted to bring the emotion back in for Vader. I just think it works better as Vader not even knowing how to show emotion anymore. He's known silent compliance for so long that he forgets where he comes from, even at his last heroic act. Its cool if people like the change though.
Original version without the added “NO” is better. It didn’t need to be said. The action was all the communication needed. Thanks for posting tho!!
Both versions of this scene are great in my opinion.
OG - The silence adds to Vader pondering whether he should save his son, who by all counts should despise him but sees good in him, and true to Luke's belief, Vader chooses good
Edited - The one with the two "no's" adds a small but poignant addition, **the reawakening of Anakin Skywalker.** Luke went through what he did, but never turned to the dark... and right now he was going to lose Luke just like how he lost Padme, and he didn't want to fail Luke like he failed Padme
So if Luke kills the emperor, he goes to the dark side. If Vader kills him, he goes to the good side. Same act, different outcomes.
My favorite movie
I‘m so happy they didn‘t bring Palpatine back in some ridiculous story line.
They cloned him
😂 I'm sure it will never happen 🤞
@@jars0023 I’m sure your wedding will never happen
@@Jackferrett6781I'm so happy you understand sarcasm
@@BenTobitt I’m not being sarcastic
"SomEHoW PalpaTinE ReTurnEd"
I don’t care if Walt Disney himself returns from the grave and sues me. The Emperor died here. End of story.
Walter Disney wouldn’t have a problem, he rests in peace. Others not so much
Palpatine had a contingency plan at that point. 3 in fact if you count the other stuff and sequel trilogy.
1. He haunts everyone to continue his Empire (Supposedly but its based on the books).
2. He uses a droid to use his recordings of giving the Empire orders (Battlefront 2).
3. Cloned himself in advance but used what was left of himself for some reason. (Episode IX)
Who wins…
Evil Old Man with Lightning coming out of his fingers
Or…
A guy saying and screaming “No” with breathing problems and a missing hand
do you think I would die this easily....
Chancellor Palpatine at an end your rule is, and not short enough it was
Chancellor Palpatine Yes definitely
@chancellorpalpatine ... ImmmPOSTAH!
Yeah yeah 😑
You know, ignoring all the supplemental material, Legends or Disney (Ahsoka Tano, his knighting and Obi-Wan declaring him "brother", the Darkhorse Empire/ Rebellion, Darth Vader comics by Kieron Gillen or Charles Soule, "Rise of the dark lord" by James Luceno EVERYTHING OUTSIDE THE ORIGINALS AND THE PREQUELS) it's still really moronic for Palps to torture Luke right before Vadee...eer... Anakin's eyes. The Emperor's plan to turn the Chosen One to the dark sideTM was to make him believe he's not loved and make his fear of losing everything cloud his judgement; add that Darth had been spending a lotta time with his son, this was pretty much him acting like a Jawa poking a Krayt Dragon with a lightsaber.
Man's made one good plan to become Emperor and then threw away all logic XD
about time vader fired his boss
"Bzzzt"
"Daddy, please"
"Bzzzt"
"No"
"AAAAaaaaaa......"
I remember this part
The emporer was defeated because he never even had a concept of what love is. He never saw Vader’s love for his son coming. Palpatine was the epitome of darkness.
Redeemer and destroyer. Pawn and messiah. Anakin mastered both sides of the Force and brought balance. Qui-Gon was right all along, he was the chosen one. His love for his family drove him to the dark side and back.
The Chosen One’s prophecy is complete.
The power of the dark side takes a lot of time
And that was the end of palpatine
wait wait wait whoa when was the "No!" added?? this was NOT in the original. Its literally the same voice over line from ep 3
I always wondered how Vader got injured more than Luke when Luke got hit by way more lightning blasts……
Sidious designed Vaders suit to be especially vulnerable to force lightning. It was his way of keeping Vader from turning against him.
1:47 to 1:52 was the return of a Jedi the return of anakin skywalker
Just out of curiosity, where’s the Force spirit of Yoda and Ben Kenoni in this? Blocked by the Emperor?
He didn't die, it ended up being a clone of Palpatine
Obi wan threw a Darth maul down a hole, and Vader threw Palpatine down a gole
ngl i never realized vader said no before he threw palpatine
He only did it in the Blu-Ray release
Just a random finding, why did Vader wait for so long to get rid of the Emperor...how did he know Like will survive for so long? Teaches us about faith running at deeper levels than we can imagine.
Cinema legend
After all this time anakin was chosen one who destroy sith and bring balance
At least he won't be coming back
“Somehow Palpatine has returned” ~Disney
Yea ok bud
Better than anything Disney ever did.
& that is the 100% canon death of Emperor Palpatine. Never to return, because the power to return from death is something that would forever elude those who committed to the dark side.
I miss it when vader didn’t say anything, it was his action that screamed.
I mean how do you survive that.
listened to me, you should have luke
Guess the dark side of the force didn’t teach him how to fly 🤷🏾♂️
If you want to be saved
RJW JC
Save the saviour to be saved otherwise you have no saviour
Welp Vader gone carry on
Would have been a whole different ending if he used the force to pull a lightsaber to his hand to kill Palpatine without being electrocuted.
Goooooood gooooooooood
He didn’t die
I know ROTJ has some plot issues abd technically issues but i feel like to me it really has alot of great moments. But i will never ever believe that the little tue fighter crashing into the bridge would be able to disable it . The tie fighter would be really way to small to do that much damage to a ship thats that massive maybe if another star destroyer got disabled and crashed into the Super star destroyer that would be more realistic in my mind of taking down that massively strong and powerful ship
Wow what a great sacrifice from Vader I sure hope Disney doesn’t undo this for no reason 😊
Vader didn't say "No!!!!" Until one of the reworks. Sounds ridiculous
Defeated by love ❤️
The Emperor is scary as hell
Some how the Emperor….oh Nevermind….
I shall do what I should've let Master Mace Windu do over 20 years ago!!