Oh, best believe that Scott changing William to yellow so that he wouldn't be confused with Michael doesn't sound stupid. That whole Willtrap vs. Miketrap debate was one of the most heated controversies back then; so much so that Scott had to actually address it. And y'all know how rarely he does that. It was *that bad.* It also helped that William is also associated with yellow through Spring Bonnie/Springtrap. And those "corporate/instruction cutscenes" in FFPS depicted a man who looks strikingly like William and all of his outfits are colored yellow, orange, blue, and purple.
It's so silly looking back on the whole MikeTrap and Willtrap thing when literally from the very first night of SL the name "Mike" stares us in the face (the tag on HandUnit's panel.)
Maybe Scott tried to confirm the "Willplush"-theory. (the idea that the yellow Text from fnaf 4 and fnaf world is from William) William also speaks in yellow in Fruity Maze. To be honest I don't really like the Will plush theory because it's such an obvious redcon from the original fnaf 4 storyline. The Freadbear plush's lines don't sound at all like things a father would say to his son. The Frebear plushie is also able to do things that can't be really explained by Willplush like turning into a flower (fnaf 4), communicating with spirits in the afterlife (fnaf world) or talk to CC after CC has already died (logbook). Not to mention that the protagonist of fnaf world is must likely the vengeful spirit. Why would William be able to hack into the afterlife of his victims only to team up with the VC of all people? Why would William help his victims to find peace and make the happiest day happen?
Honestly, Michael being the person watching TV never made sense to me. Sure, he watches TV in Sister Location, but like, anyone in a living room can watch TV, it's an extremely common thing to do. Also, if that is Michael, why would Scott be consistent with his gray color from FNAF4 if William isn't being consistent with his purple color? If that really is William, then the colors aren't a good indicator of who's who. But most importantly, the dialogue makes NO SENSE coming from Michael. He's supposed to be a bully to the Crying Child at that point, he's not a protective older brother, he's a jerk, he's the one who made him have rough days, I really don't get how so many people just pretend that dialogue makes sense coming from Michael, maybe if it was something more like "The little runt locked himself up in his room", but that's not what the character says, the character is protective of the Crying Child, and that's just not how Michael was at that point.
Like I mentioned in my video, the reason he might've switched up the colors is because he didn't want people misinterpreting Mike and William again. Way back in the day when SL came out, people mistook Michael for William, and then people thought Mike could be Springtrap. The colors are a fine indicator because yellow also means something for Afton. It's the opposite color to Purple, and it's the color of Afton's bunny suit; it's symbolic. Since MM takes place most likely early 80s, Mike wearing his gray outfit while having gray text is accurate--Mike doesn't really have color symbolism like William does. As for Michael not being a jerk and his dialogue; it's a weak point, really. Just because Michael is a jerk in FNaF 4 doesn't mean he always was. Siblings can get along, and we from AFTER Michael accidentally kills CC that he does feel bad about it instantly--"Can you hear me? I don't know if you can hear me. I'm sorry, " says Michael in FNaF 4. Especially if they had just lost a family member, whether it be Elizabeth or Mrs. Afton or somebody else.
When it comes to FNAF and its story, I always go about it in terms of it being a story. Scott is a storyteller first and foremost, that's why he made so many books, because he wanted to tell stories. Especially past 4, he spends a good amount of time establishing characters to follow. With that character focused point of view in mind, MM comes together as so. 1. Mustard Man is Willy. Later that night and Midnight motor put that together. 2. The runaway is Mike. CC(David if Hyperdroid is right) is characterized as very shy, very scared, known to break down into crying fits at even the sight of an animatronic, it doesn't make sense for him to either A: be lured out of the house, or B: run away of his own accord. Kidnapped? Maybe, but that feels doubtful to me. However, Mike's characterization would alternatively let him do this no problem. He's relatively fearless, shown by his willingness to keep working at Freddy's locations over and over again. Him breaking through a window (or climbing through a broken window, either or) to go somewhere important to him. 3. Couch Person's identity is irrelevant. It could be Mrs. Afton, or Henry, or even an unnamed babysitter. I don't think it's Michael because Couch Person's speech pattern doesn't match how snarky he is and how much humor his natural tone has. 4. The Animatronic is Golden Freddy/Fredbear/CC(David)'s spirit. Due to the tracks, it has to be a supernatural creature, so at this point (under my interpretation) it could either be CC's remnant as Fredbear, or CC's Agony made manifest as Shadow Freddy. It's drawing Michael out. To go where? 5. The Mound is a Grave/Memorial for CC(David). If it's not his literal grave, it's likely The Box containing Psychic Friend Fredbear(tm). We know Mike feels guilt for his brother's death, and if Will wanted to torture him a bit to punish him, an incredibly mean and sadistic thing to do is place a reminder of what Michael did on the only path out from where they live, and disallow him to go near it, only being allowed to repent at a distance. 6. Jr's is a property formerly owned by William Afton, likely Fredbear's Family Diner. I say this mostly by judging the (taking a single liberty) FNAF4 cutscene distance to the house. It's likely a bar of some kind. We know Will has a... habit, shall we say, of stalking Freddy's locations, so it might be possible that Will got in trouble for some offense, leading to his banning. I also think that this is the location of FNAF 6, giving us a full circle, ending everything where it all started. This is still a deeply flawed method, but it gives me a decent starting place to make since of this as a linear story.
This is pretty much what I’ve been brewing in my head for a while now without being able to put it into words. The biggest thing for me is Jr.’s has to be a bar of some sort (past related to William or not) because this game takes place so late at night. Great stuff :)
maybe the mound is the box from fnaf 4. whats inside is something someone wants to forget, so they buried it. to me that makes way more sense then it being a grave, but it is fnaf so it could totally be a grave. XD
@@TheDoctorIsIn101The only issue is in the newest dawko interview scott basically confirmed that he has no idea what the box was supposed to be nor what it even would be anymore.
4:20 Personally: It's because this is the first time we're playing from HIS Perspective. He's no longer "In the Shadows" (as Scott's words) because... how would you not know who YOU are? Every other time he's been seen by someone else, not by himself. This is also backed up because of how FNAF 6 CLEARLY makes it blunt "this is William" by associating him with Yellow AND Purple. Especially since his Fursona is a Golden Rabbit. Now as for MY MM Theory: Henry is Couch Guy Michael is the Runaway (And Not Lured, like in Theory 2) The Lump... MAYBE Sister Location's Entrance? JR's being a shut down Fredbear's, like how Into The Pit's "Jeff's Pizza" is a shutdown Freddy Fazbear's MCI Location. NOT a previously unknown FazEnt brand, but just something that took over the Vacant Building. A notable detail that wasnt mentioned is: I dont believe ANY Theories brought up the fact that he's *repeatedly* Run away, ESPECIALLY the "Shadow Freddy Leads Him to Charlie" theory... I'm not sure where EXACTLY Michael is going, as it's either Offscreen, or JRs, but considering he's still fucked up by CC's Death/Incident, it's highly likely it's SOMETHING related to CC. Perhaps a nearby Hospital, maybe JRs where CC was Bitten, or somewhere Else that's important (Say, a Hill perhaps?), but it's certainly somewhere Michael feels strongly about, enough to tempt his Father's Wrath. As for the Footprints: I suspect it's an Endo/"Proto-Nightmare". Something placed there to be spooky/to try and dissuade him from running off again. Of course, it's likely he knocked it over on his way out (There IS a conveniently placed bush which could hide a tipped over endo RIGHT behind those 2 prints...) Of course, "Later that Night" WOULD refer to Charlie's Death. This is generally the best theory i've come up with, that more or less solves some of the biggest points, with the info we have. As for why i Disagree with Elizabeth being dead prior: The Funtimes were likely made AFTER the MCI, or were in-progress around the same time. With Charlie's Death, this would put it prior to the MCI as well. If the Funtimes dont exist, they cant kill Elizabeth. I suspect William's Motive to Pursue Remnant Research WAS Charlie Possessing the Puppet. Effectively striking the BIGGEST Holy Grail in Human History. With the MCI being a "Proof" that it's Replicable/that the Theory he holds can hold Water. The Funtimes being a plan to Upscale "Production", before being Shelved when Elizabeth died Day One. Later being repurposed for the Rental Service.
You're right, I'd did forget to mention that the Runaway specifically has run away more than once apparently, inferring that this isn't the first time he's done it. Personally I would prefer it if Michael is the Runaway, but like I said in the video A) It makes more sense for the animatronic to be a paranormal one, being that it is only a single set of footprints and B) Although Henry is a possibility, I personally think there's more evidence to support Mike being the couch person (I.E. Gray text, gray shirt, and the fact we see Mike watching TV in SL.) The dirt mound COULD be the entrance to SL...But, also, how would that lead to the elevator we clearly see. The facility is apparently one where multiple people work, so a random mound in the forest is a bit odd. Still, I would agree, Funtimes being after the MCI makes more sense.
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 >But, also, how would that lead to the elevator we clearly see. The facility is apparently one where multiple people work, so a random mound in the forest is a bit odd. Simple, actually: Sister Location (as we see it) doesnt exist yet. At least in my theory: It began at least as a Basement/Extension of Fredbear's Family Diner, in 1983 or earlier (possibly as early as 1979 at least), functioning as a Storage Area/Workshop where both Henry and William worked on the Springlocks (and why a previously unknown, and possibly unfinished/prototype Springlock is present) AND Classics. Especially since William's own private Office is located there, with stuff that could ONLY have been implemented in 1983 (Cameras watching CC, a layout of Fredbear's, listing two Animatronics on stage) Later, it was Expanded when CBPW was set to open and suddenly closed, before turning into CBEAR (as we see it in Sister Location). FazEnt absorbs Afton Robotics (and the Location) after Afton disappears (when he got springlocked in 93), some time between the buyout and FNAF 3 or so, SL takes Place. Even Later still, FazEnt FURTHER Expands Sister Location, to function as a full on Distribution Hub for their "Special Delivery" Service in AR. >being that it is only a single set of footprints At the same time, an Endo that's meant to be a Scarecrow doesnt *need* to move, either (especially if it were made of a bunch of spare junk lying around). Simply just place it down infront of the window. >I personally think there's more evidence to support Mike being the couch person (I.E. Gray text, gray shirt, and the fact we see Mike watching TV in SL.) At the same time, he speaks to William as if *he's* an adult as well, and Henry has *also* been depicted in Grey/with Grey text (and Bald), more recently than Michael even. Additionally, this WOULD explain a few things much better: Why was the Security Puppet made? (To take care of Charlie/make sure she's safe while he's Babysitting Michael/William's Shithead Son) Why wasnt he there that night (as mentioned in FNAF 6)? (Again, Babysitting Michael) Alongside: It'd make sense if the two take Shifts at Freddy's, rather than both being present all the time. Both of them would know eachother well enough, being Coworkers and MAYBE Friends? It wouldnt be odd for Henry to help out when his friend's just lost a child to a terrible accident. *And* a bit of a cruel twist as well, Henry babysitting William's Child at the same time William is murdering his Daughter, none the wiser until he comes in later for work/gets a call. (And likely not knowing *who* the killer was until Years Later when he finally pieced it together) At the very least it 100% fits the Behavior of Couch Guy AND fits far more with the plotline than Michael does. (...also Michael is maybe only 13-14 or so at this point of time, i dont think he'd be THAT large in the chair too, possibly :V)
Agreed on the order. CC is hospitalized (you can make the argument the CC either dies before or after Charlie's or Elizabeth's deaths). Charlie is killed in some sick twisted way for William to get revenge, maybe showing that possession is a thing for the first time (you can make the argument that CC dies in the hospital sometime after this, which could explain why one of the last things William possibly said, was the whole "put you back together" thing). It's also notable that Henry says Charlie is William's first victim. With CC's death being 100% an accident caused by Michael, the MCI being a very public case the Henry couldn't have possibly missed, and the Baby Crew requiring William to learn about possession for him to even build them like that, Charlie's death HAS to be either the first or the second (you can argue first to explain the "put back together" line as well). MCI happens either for William to deliberately experiment with possession or simply as him escalating his crimes before stumbling upon possession for the first time. William builds the Baby Crew to automate the process of possession and remnant collection, but Elizabeth is accidentally killed.
If Elizabeth was the one under the mound, then it would explain why Afton was drunk as hell and driving down the wrong side of the highway. HIS OWN KID DIED!
For Midnight Motorist, this is my possible understanding: -The Runaway is Mike -The Couch character would be Ms. Afton -The Yellow Guy is definitely William Afton -The Unmarked Grave is Crying Child My theory is, Latter that Night happens on the same night as Charlie's death, which would have happened shortly after the Bite of '83 (or even on the same day). The person running away would be Mike, going after the unmarked pile, aka, Crying Child grave, because of his death. Afton arrives at the house, and Ms. Afton asks Afton to leave Mike alone, because he had a hard day (guilt for CC's death), the fact that she was watching TV, just like Mike in Fnaf SL, could be the explanation for who Mike inherited the habit of watching soap operas from. For the footprints, perhaps we could consider Crying Child influencing the Fredbear animatronic, luring Mike to his grave. Statement 1: I believe that the person sitting on the couch is Mrs. Afton, because in Security Breach, Vanessa, with Elizabeth's false memories implanted by Glitchtrap, says that she was coerced into saying that Mrs. Afton was not a good person. For this to happen, Elizabeth would have to be a certain age, probably 3 or 4 years old or older. Fnaf Special Delivery shows us that Elizabeth's room seen in the Fnaf 4 minigame has a crib, belonging to Elizabeth, and since it is empty in Fnaf 4, it is possible that she was not born yet during the gameplay of Fnaf 4, only being born later, which would imply that Mrs. Afton would still be alive or present. In addition, it is reasonable that watching TV is something that Mike learned or inherited from his mother. Furthermore, to give an order like the one Afton received, I think only a family figure of the same level would be capable of, the mother. Statement 2: Regarding the Crying Child, I believe it is possible that he is possessing Fredbear, that is, controlling the animatronics like the children in MCI, possibly being the one causing the "It's me" hallucinations in Fnaf 1, and being a second soul in Golden Freddy, as indicated in the Survivor Logbook. There is also the possibility that he is a wandering spirit or a lost soul, as indicated in the Fnaf Character Encyclopedia. It was only after Happiest Day, which I believe actually happened in Fnaf 3, that Charlie, Cassidy and Mike together helped Crying Child to rest. Whatever the real state of Crying Child, both seem to work for this theory. If there are any flaws or something that I have forgotten or that does not make sense, feel free to comment.
My issue regarding anything Mrs. Afton is that, yeah, she logically had to exist to give birth to three children--but we know very little about her. There's more evidence to suggest she left William Afton at some point, at the very least. You could say Mike "inherited" a love for Soap Operas from his mother, but the couch person has a gray shirt, gray text, and of course is watching television just like Mike did in SL--personally in my opinion, considering that we have SEEN Mike sitting in a chair watching TV already, the best and likely option would be that Mike is couch person. "He went to that place again", inferring that wherever the Runaway went is somewhere they've been before. Clearly Afton in the minigame is abusive, but we know of one place that Afton isn't allowed--that being Jr's. When Afton goes to Jr's the Green Guy says something along the lines of, "You know you can't be here, don't make this any harder than it has to", inferring that Afton is familiar with Jr's and, for some reason, isn't allowed there. It makes sense to me that, if the Runaway was trying to escape his father's abuse, he'd go somewhere his father wouldn't be allowed. Also, the "It's Me" line isn't actually special to Golden Freddy. In the recently released interactive novel, "The Week Before", all the animatronics are shown to use that phrase.
@@lordvik2259On top of the previous comment, we know from UCN and Help Wanted 2 that the MCI happened before charlie's death(Charlie is last in the death order), meaning the animatronic footprints could be cassidy influencing the golden freddy suit. On top of the fact that David/CC refers to the freddy's plushes as his friends, it could be possible that the MCI victims were CC's friends, and that "leave him alone, he had a rough day today" could refer to him loosing his friends in the MCI, which could be why william isn't allowed at JR's, as we know previously when an incident happened, previous employees weren't allowed back into the location. I have a long explanation for my theory about JR's being Freddy's and the runaway being CC/David, but can't write it all out at the moment. If you're curious at all though, I can drop it in the replies below if you're interested
@@roscoe5427 It's an interesting idea, the MCI taking place before Charlie's death, but it's very likely that this isn't the case, in Silver Eyes, Charlie's grave is marked 1980-1983, Charlie died in 83. The book Into The Pit and the new Fnaf game Into the Pit make it clear that the date of the MCI is June 26, 1985. Charlie's death is on 1983, while the MCI is on 85. Regarding the Help Wanted plushies, it is quite clear that it is symbolic
In my personal opinion here’s what I Midnight motorist takes place in 1987 for a couple reasons 1. The dice. 2 mph 187 3. The different house. . The orange guy is William (five laps at Freddy’s basically confirmed it) . The mini game takes place later after William commits the DCI as the description says “ Talk about a killer ride! This smooth cruiser is the perfect choice for anyone wanting to flee a crime scene win a race” . Jrs is what happened to Fred bears after it shut down it got turned into a bar and then later the Fnaf 6 location. For proof the Fnaf 6 location is Fredbears 1. The alley where Charlie dies looks exactly like the alley where the scrap animatronics are at 2. In the epilogues for tales of the pizza Plex there’s actually a safe room in the Fnaf 6 location 3. Rockstar Freddy is the mascot and has a purple hat and bowtie, which only Fred bear had before 4. In SB there’s arcade where the art shows Fredbear and spring Bonnie‘s ghost overtop a burning building . William is likely not allowed because Of either two reasons 1. They want no association with the old creators of the diner 2. The green guy knows William Afton murdered the 5 children and wants nothing to do with him. Everyone knows William did the MCI they just can’t convict them because there was no bodies found . The mound is A grave as it stated to be one in one of the guides . The grave likely belongs to Elizabeth. It can’t be crying child for 2 reasons 1.everyone knows that he died. His death is public knowledge as confirmed by the week before and into the pits announcer 2. Crying child has no relevance in 6 story Elizabeth on the other hand no one was around to witness her death when William knows any he covered it up with the gas leaks . The house is different because William moved after 1983. It’s probably not in the neighborhood anymore because everyone knows William is a criminal . The person on the couch is Ms Afton. 1. If we look at the midnight motors house, there is no other car meaning that the person on the other couch uses William’s car 2. The person talks to William like they’re on the same level they tell them what to do 3. Into the pit game story parallels midnight motorist And there are only 3 family members in Oswald’s family Oswald’s mom Oswald’s dad Oswald for midnight motorist, it would be Mike’s mom Mike’s dad Mike . Mike is the runway no surprise there. 1. All the siblings are dead so, it kinda has to be him 2. Mike is shown to be a rebel . Mike is likely 16 or 17 since he’s shown to still be living with his parents . if the Oswald parallel is true the reason why William doesn’t want Mike to keep leaving the house and locked him in his room is because Mike witness William commit the MCI ( note: using parallel as a narrative thing not the game theory way into the pit is canon in my opinion. I’m saying the game has a deeper connection/repeat of events) . “That place again” would be the 1987 Freddys . the thing outside the window is likely there because Mike kept going back to that location so something followed him home . The animatronic outside Mike’s window I think could be W. foxy or Freddy (I am not exactly sure I thought golden Freddy was the most likely option, but it seems in the week before he has a vendetta against Mike) . “ He’ll be sorry when he gets back” I think can mean 2 things . Nightmare experiments. . Forces him to look at the location as Fritz Smith
ive always had an issue with the "dirt mound" as to me i see a burned house lot.... to me i see a driveway and a lot where a house would have been but was burned down and that tiny bit we see is what's left of the house.... it also makes sense with how many fires we've had.. and yes i think specifically a burnt down house not a building like a faz bear or a fair ground.. but i see a house lot ... the driveway i see is big enough for one car not like a parking lot and it leads up to a big burned up rectangle like it was a small 1 car garage house.. ive never seen it as a mound.. i see the mound yes .. but i don't think its dirt... in the cut scene bits where chica is a stand in for william explaining his killings more in depth she says something that always stuck out.. yes people have mentioned the part where william will go around to their window... but to me it's further in that sticks out... she says.. if they won't come out and or let him in side the house that he'll just burn it down with them inside.. and to me that sticks out... like that scot was specifically pointing out that yes orange guy is william by the fact that he goes to the window but that he is and has burnt down someones house before .. and to me that mound and lot look too much like a burnt down house lot than anything else... it seems to small for a fair ground .. not enough room for parking and for the entertainment and it doesn't seem big enough for a business because of the same issue no room for parking and business but if it's a single small lot home that maybe had enough room for a driveway or a driveway and a 1 car garage that seems like the perfect size for this lot.. and the whole lot is that dark color like it's been burnt.. and that mound may just be what's left of a burnt down house..
I got a thought that - David died first - William then creates Baby specifically to kill Charlie because Freadbear was of Henry's design so he wants to hurt him as much as he supposedly hurt Afton before as he created a faulty animatronic that closed his jaw when he was not supposed to, so William literally blames Henry for killing his son Maybe Charlie was supposed to be one of the guests at the opening of Circus Baby's? - instead William's daughter accidently got killed - William covers her death (dirt mound) as he doesn't want for the public to know that he designed lethal animatronic on purpose - some time after he goes completely crazy from losing two kids, getting drunk, speeding on wrong side of highway and killing Charlie the first time he has an ocassion to do so but unfortunately that would mean that the one on the couch has to be Mrs. Afton, and the runaway is Mike as that is literally the only possible option, also that would mess a timeline a bit
This doesn't work IMO due to the fact that it's established that William randomly kills Charlie as she was isolated and was not at all expecting her to possess the puppet. Puppet is also the first one to be noted as acting weird and Henry calls her the first victim of William ("wound first afflicted on me"), meaning this was likely the first murder-possession. This is a big deal because the express purpose of the Baby crew was to kidnap, kill, and then extract the remnant of children for William's experimentation. Charlie's death (or his plans for it according to this theory) would have to have been a decent amount of time BEFORE SL so that he could learn about possession and remnant in the first place. I however agree with some things here. I absolutely believe he blamed Henry for his broken family due to his insane ego and when he saw Charlie isolated, he practically jumped at the chance to kill her. Afterwards, he gets drunk to process this and recklessly drives while drunk, hence why it's called "later that night". Maybe you can argue the death order is [CC > MCI > Elizabeth > Charlie]. Crying Child's death leads to William going crazy. William kills children, perhaps either as a deranged way to afflict the same pain onto other parents or because he hates seeing children happy now and the MCI happens. He learns of possession and decides to create animatronics to automate the process of killing so that he can experiment further, leading to Elizabeth's accidental death. Feeling angry, he randomly stumbled upon Charlie isolated while in the area (I like the theory that William was driving to the restaurant to possibly confront and maybe even kill Henry) and murders her. But this order falls as Charlie is explicitly called the first murder-possession by Henry as CC's death is confirmed accidental. You could argue that maybe Henry didn't know when Baby died and he could've gotten that wrong, but the MCI was very public, so there's no way he would get that wrong and William needs either the MCI to happen first (which is disputed by Henry) or Charlie's murder-possession to happen first (which goes against your theory that William built the Baby crew to target Charlie as he would have to know how possession even works).
In my best idea of the time I too said Elizabeth Died before CC/David, but Elizabeth not First, she is 6th. If you want to me to explain well I think the MCI happen in 1983 as I think CC was on to Afton due to some of the clearly haunted bear plush, But the MCI keep being push back before Charlie who dies in 1983 so why not the same year, in fact if Circus Baby would fit opening that year only for it not go right. More and more William intended to kill the kids, he just got his own kids stuck in the mix.
Unfortunately I don't think the MCI happened in 1983, and the recent Into the Pit game supports that. Into the Pit takes place in 1985, and we see the MCI victims there.
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 my problem with into the Pit is the game seem more in line the books story for obvious reasons then the games, I don’t think the books stories are in the games, instead similar rules and ideas can exist in the games. But mainly the 6th kid kind of ruins a lot about this being the MCI, also the fact the MCI took 2 days. At best this is similar to the DCI. But Help Wanted 2 is a big deal as Puppet is after G Freddy, these details can’t be the same unless the kids died twice which is impossible even with Faz-Goo or Lonely Freddy(s) being a thing.
22:22 How would have Crying Child witnessed Circus Baby killing Elizabeth if the animatronic deliberately waited for everyone but 1 child to be alone in the room? Circus Baby was meticulous in keeping count of how many kids there were. 🧐
Yeah that's definitely a valid point. If I had to speculate? He could've walked in literally at the moment it happened. It's definitely flimsy, I'd much more likely believe that Crying Child is just scared of the animatronics in general as opposed to being scared of them because of something specific.
I think Afton didnt become murderous bc of his kids deaths. He just became a immortality scientist after he discovered the mcis possessions and Charlie's haunting. I think the secrets of the Mimic will reveal Afton was always a killer. I think Henry's "A wound first inclicted upon me" will refer to an incident Afton did before the 80s and will reveal that Henry buried his head in the sand and covered up for Afton until he couldn't anymore.
@19:00 It could be Cassidy in the Go0lden Freddy suit in the dirt mound. That would explain why they are both together. The one Afton should not have killed is going after his son for revenge. That is my hypothesis (not a theory!)
Maybe it's just because the mini games aren't that detailed but I just wanted to point out that there are no glass shards outside of the broken window so there could be a possibility that whoever ran away from that room didn't actually ran away but something has gotten inside and took him OR at least that the window was broken from the outside. It's nothing important and probably not true but I just wanted to say that
The only thing I find a bit far fetched about this theory is Elizabeth being in the “unmarked grave”. Being killed or rather grabbed by Baby can reasonably imply that she was put inside the animatronic. If there were evidence to suggest that Elizabeth was not always in Baby then I think this theory would be far more plausible. I’m sure some people don’t have many problems with where bodies end up but this franchise always makes a fairly big point of locating said bodies. Overall though, great theory and I love your take on this mini game being a bit different most. Nice and fresh
Thanks! That's understandable, I have my own issues with Elizabeth being in the grave but looking at the minigame I think it does make some sense in conjuction with the rest of the Midnight Motorist. If I had to give a possible answer as to why Elizabeth's body wouldn't still be in there? Well, we know that the Funtimes have of course been scooped prior to SL--Baby implies that this isn't their first escape attempt and we even see Ballora scooped on Night 4. I think it's reasonable to say Elizabeth's body would've been removed at some point, most likely by Afton. Otherwise somebody else would've eventually found the body. That applies to other animatronics as well. Although we see in the newspapers that the bodies of the MCI were never found, they would've logically had to have been EVENTUALLY found by Fazbear Entertainment when they were remodeling the animatronics between FNaF 2 and FNaF 1 (the Withereds have completely different suits, after all.)
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 That makes sense. When saying locating bodies I didn’t think about where they all end up because you are right in saying the franchise does not really make that clear. Still a fantastic theory. I look forward to the next ones you got.
crack-theory: the lump/grave is that of a dog, the Aftons' pet (the only proof being the barking we can hear in FNaF 4,, it could be some memory that they had a dog)) i prefer a kid dying than a dog tho,, /j
To be fair, I find it interesting that they might've had a dog. Cause you're definitely right, we do hear one in FNaF 4. I think the simpler answer would be that it could've been a neighbor's dog though, just barking in the night.
Midnight Motorist has been unsolved since Its release due to its vague storytelling like FNaF 4 had. I don't know what Midnight Motorist is about. This minigame can be interpreted in several ways which any of them could be right. But I want to point out something. The Window was locked. That's why the Runaway broke It. He didn't have any option left. The only way he could go to that place was through breaking the window. The couch person seems to be an elderly person who probably at that age is either a bit deaf or can't hear right. He probably had the TV's sound high that's why he didn't hear him. Despite of what I said, cool theory. It's a good take.
Thank you! Thanks for watching! I've seen people speculate that the TV person could be Mrs. Afton; which, sure, could be. We're talking about simplified pixels here but personally it looks like a male, so if anything I could maybe see the couch person being Henry--but I think Mike works more effectively because we see him watching TV in SL. You are right though, there's a hundred different interpretations for Midnight Motorist.
It’s not William. Ozone states in his latest midnight motorist theory that the yellow guy isn’t afton and that it’s the OG owner of the purple car, let me explain. In the immortal and the restless, after Clara says she’s going to take Vlad’s car, Vlad responds with “ Jokes on you! It’s a rental.” Which could mean that Afton rented the purple car from the yellow guy to kill charlie and frame it on him, but not just that, he also decorated it with a spring bonnie antenna to make it seem like yellow guy was the MCI murderer, when in reality, Afton was the killer. And since William has a person to frame, he kidnapped and killed the yellow guy’s kid ( Cassidy) so that yellow guy would be blamed since yellow guy was at the scene and he has a spring bonnie antenna. The theory is believe in is midnight-MCI
That's such a stretch tho. There's nothing saying he rented it from Yellow Guy, and the purple car is only connected ever connected to Afton. The argument that Afton "rented" the car all hinges on a semi-comparison cartoon that's more so about Michael being William's son. Also, that's not how rental cars work. You rent vehicles from dealerships, not some random people.
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 Alright you beat me.😂 I just really wanted to continue believing in midnight- mci because it was the theory i originally believed in. But here’s the more likely story of midnight motorist: William is driving home after murdering Charlie, but first, he tries to get into the bar, but is denied( probably because he gets out of control when he’s drunk or he just over-drinks). Then he goes back to driving home, in a worse mood, wanting to take his anger out on someone, and who else but Michael. William goes into his house, talks to his wife or dad(We don’t really know the couch person’s gender yet), and gets told to leave Michael alone since he’s had a bad day. But he doesn’t listen and goes straight to Michael’s room, he knocks on his door, no answer, he gets even more frustrated and knocks again, shouting at him this time, but once again, no answer. But this makes William even more angry, and he goes around the house to go through his window, when he sees something unexpected, the window’s already open, then William realizes, he’s gone to that place again. That “place” he talks about is CC/Dave’s grave, a location that William also visits before going to his house, this house is a house the Aftons moves to after the events of fnaf 4 and maybe could be where the gameplay part of fnaf 4 takes place. Ok that’s all, tell what think of everything i said in this reply!
Shadow Freddy’s humble beginning in midnight motorist isn’t that far fetched. It goes like this. William unleashes all his envy and anger he built up for Henry onto Charlie which creates this agony being, Shadow Freddy. The story In the flesh even supports this idea as the baby springtrap was given life through Matt pouring all his rage and anger into him. That being said I have another point which might prove that the footprints belongs to Shadow Freddy. Since Nightmare is Shadow Freddy and Nightmare is a dark reflection of nightmare fredbear then it is safe to say that Shadow Freddy is Fredbear. Why do I say this? Well MMAfton is the same colour as Fredbear while his other appearances is purple just like Shadow Freddy. So if Afton’s colour change is linked to Fredbear/Nightmare then the links to ShadowFootprints becomes even stronger.
Your mic sounds fine! I don't think you need to get a new one or mess with the audio. Good job presenting the different interpretations of MM. I think it really shows the most viable options and it really comes down to that dirt mound (lol) and when you think Elizabeth died. It does seem like more and more things are starting to point to sister location occurring much earlier than we all thought. However, it really makes things confusing because of certain lines in SL like the one hand unit says at the beginning ("Due to the massive success and even more so the unfortunate closing of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, it was clear that the stage was set, no pun intended, for another contender in children's entertainment. Unlike most entertainment venues, our robotic entertainers are rented out for private parties during the day, and it's your job to get the robots back in proper working order before the following morning.”) Idk lol. Good work on the vid though
Thank you! I really appreciate the kind words. I think the differentiation is that Sister Location the game itself probably DID take place a little later (after FNaF 1 at least), but the Funtimes themselves could've been made way earlier. We know that prior to SL there was "Circus Baby's Pizza World" which is where Elizabeth died, but Sister Location actually takes place in "Circus Baby Entertainment and Rentals". Still, it's weird that the Funtimes would exist as early as the 80s.
This is my theory and I don’t mind people disagreeing with me, but I think JR’s was a Freddy’s location similar to how ‘Five Nights at Freddy’s: Into the Pit’ Freddy’s Location became Jeff’s Pizza
Hey I don't know if anyone thought about this theory since why wouldn't I think about the dirt mad as a secret hatch everyone knows William is cautious and in a night when will go down to the bunker or sister location if we're speaking about location-wise would use their Mount as a secret place to put the emergency hatch think about it elevator to stop working William will be stuck down there with killer animatronics that would probably want to kill him you know he programmed them they probably would have settings or be possessed at this point that wants to kill him so of course you are a hit and hatch and went by a place to put a match somewhere nobody will think of auspicious I mean come on you can think that somebody build a dirt man or it was there at all time when the house is built we don't know the house is built or not because knowing William he most likely would have built this house
Okay I'm sorry I forgot to mention that William could have expanded on a existing Subway or sewer because I believe it's a sewer it's weird that it's designed to have four ways you have to go and you have to use vent pass to go back and forth to different locations because I'm assuming that where the house it's it's in four direct areas where the fun times are delivered or on the same location but used to map out one location entirely so they can access the fun times but here's the question where does the fun times get out from I put 100% sure William will not be stupid enough to pull animatronic out of a vent to his house because do I look at it he testing them see if they're possessed or not because William collecting remnant there's a chance that one of those fun times could possess so William is shocking them to check at their possessed or not because animatronics would probably shut down or act out a little but if it was a human soul in there you're probably would try to lash out at William swelling was checking when they are possessed William could study them. But here's a question where do William get the fun times from cuz I'm pretty sure you wouldn't keep them in that location under his house unless there's a building under there that will connect them to that location and William puts the fun times near his house so he could collect them and on do test on them and collect around and off them if there is any cuz.
When I said "Garret" I was reading from somebody else's interpretation of the minigame. Even then, the dude's name is definitely not the most important aspect of Midnight Motorist
I'm gonna take anything from a kart racing game that's made mostly by fans. It's clearly just fan interpretation of MM by the devs and they would add it just because it's a car related minigame in the fnaf franchise.
By that logic we shouldn't take Security Breach at face value either, it wasn't made by Scott. The racing game was made by Clickteam, who have worked a lot more closely with Scott than most.
" It's clearly just fan interpretation of MM by the devs" Makes no sense. If the DEVS of a Fnaf game add lore, it's no longer fan interpretation, it's just canon lore now.
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 I highly doubt Scott told them to put it there, I believe this game was made based on their ideas not Scott's, the only thing Scott did was giving them the license. Scott has said in the past he doesn't check on side projects often. I doubt he would confirm and end an entire debate in a spinoff kart racer game.
Oh, best believe that Scott changing William to yellow so that he wouldn't be confused with Michael doesn't sound stupid. That whole Willtrap vs. Miketrap debate was one of the most heated controversies back then; so much so that Scott had to actually address it. And y'all know how rarely he does that. It was *that bad.*
It also helped that William is also associated with yellow through Spring Bonnie/Springtrap. And those "corporate/instruction cutscenes" in FFPS depicted a man who looks strikingly like William and all of his outfits are colored yellow, orange, blue, and purple.
It's so silly looking back on the whole MikeTrap and Willtrap thing when literally from the very first night of SL the name "Mike" stares us in the face (the tag on HandUnit's panel.)
I still don't understand why scott made Mike purple and not green or something.
@@YoLkE-22222 Rotting flesh tends to turn purple
Maybe Scott tried to confirm the "Willplush"-theory. (the idea that the yellow Text from fnaf 4 and fnaf world is from William) William also speaks in yellow in Fruity Maze.
To be honest I don't really like the Will plush theory because it's such an obvious redcon from the original fnaf 4 storyline. The Freadbear plush's lines don't sound at all like things a father would say to his son. The Frebear plushie is also able to do things that can't be really explained by Willplush like turning into a flower (fnaf 4), communicating with spirits in the afterlife (fnaf world) or talk to CC after CC has already died (logbook). Not to mention that the protagonist of fnaf world is must likely the vengeful spirit. Why would William be able to hack into the afterlife of his victims only to team up with the VC of all people? Why would William help his victims to find peace and make the happiest day happen?
I mean was it really anybody’s fault when he’s the same person who decide to turn them both purple?
the true midnight motorist was the friends we made along the way
Plot twist: the mound is a fakeout and it is just a lump of game theory pins william buried to not be caught
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Honestly, Michael being the person watching TV never made sense to me.
Sure, he watches TV in Sister Location, but like, anyone in a living room can watch TV, it's an extremely common thing to do.
Also, if that is Michael, why would Scott be consistent with his gray color from FNAF4 if William isn't being consistent with his purple color? If that really is William, then the colors aren't a good indicator of who's who.
But most importantly, the dialogue makes NO SENSE coming from Michael. He's supposed to be a bully to the Crying Child at that point, he's not a protective older brother, he's a jerk, he's the one who made him have rough days, I really don't get how so many people just pretend that dialogue makes sense coming from Michael, maybe if it was something more like "The little runt locked himself up in his room", but that's not what the character says, the character is protective of the Crying Child, and that's just not how Michael was at that point.
Like I mentioned in my video, the reason he might've switched up the colors is because he didn't want people misinterpreting Mike and William again. Way back in the day when SL came out, people mistook Michael for William, and then people thought Mike could be Springtrap. The colors are a fine indicator because yellow also means something for Afton. It's the opposite color to Purple, and it's the color of Afton's bunny suit; it's symbolic. Since MM takes place most likely early 80s, Mike wearing his gray outfit while having gray text is accurate--Mike doesn't really have color symbolism like William does.
As for Michael not being a jerk and his dialogue; it's a weak point, really. Just because Michael is a jerk in FNaF 4 doesn't mean he always was. Siblings can get along, and we from AFTER Michael accidentally kills CC that he does feel bad about it instantly--"Can you hear me? I don't know if you can hear me. I'm sorry, " says Michael in FNaF 4. Especially if they had just lost a family member, whether it be Elizabeth or Mrs. Afton or somebody else.
When it comes to FNAF and its story, I always go about it in terms of it being a story. Scott is a storyteller first and foremost, that's why he made so many books, because he wanted to tell stories. Especially past 4, he spends a good amount of time establishing characters to follow. With that character focused point of view in mind, MM comes together as so.
1. Mustard Man is Willy. Later that night and Midnight motor put that together.
2. The runaway is Mike. CC(David if Hyperdroid is right) is characterized as very shy, very scared, known to break down into crying fits at even the sight of an animatronic, it doesn't make sense for him to either A: be lured out of the house, or B: run away of his own accord. Kidnapped? Maybe, but that feels doubtful to me. However, Mike's characterization would alternatively let him do this no problem. He's relatively fearless, shown by his willingness to keep working at Freddy's locations over and over again. Him breaking through a window (or climbing through a broken window, either or) to go somewhere important to him.
3. Couch Person's identity is irrelevant. It could be Mrs. Afton, or Henry, or even an unnamed babysitter. I don't think it's Michael because Couch Person's speech pattern doesn't match how snarky he is and how much humor his natural tone has.
4. The Animatronic is Golden Freddy/Fredbear/CC(David)'s spirit. Due to the tracks, it has to be a supernatural creature, so at this point (under my interpretation) it could either be CC's remnant as Fredbear, or CC's Agony made manifest as Shadow Freddy. It's drawing Michael out. To go where?
5. The Mound is a Grave/Memorial for CC(David). If it's not his literal grave, it's likely The Box containing Psychic Friend Fredbear(tm). We know Mike feels guilt for his brother's death, and if Will wanted to torture him a bit to punish him, an incredibly mean and sadistic thing to do is place a reminder of what Michael did on the only path out from where they live, and disallow him to go near it, only being allowed to repent at a distance.
6. Jr's is a property formerly owned by William Afton, likely Fredbear's Family Diner. I say this mostly by judging the (taking a single liberty) FNAF4 cutscene distance to the house. It's likely a bar of some kind. We know Will has a... habit, shall we say, of stalking Freddy's locations, so it might be possible that Will got in trouble for some offense, leading to his banning. I also think that this is the location of FNAF 6, giving us a full circle, ending everything where it all started.
This is still a deeply flawed method, but it gives me a decent starting place to make since of this as a linear story.
This is pretty much what I’ve been brewing in my head for a while now without being able to put it into words. The biggest thing for me is Jr.’s has to be a bar of some sort (past related to William or not) because this game takes place so late at night. Great stuff :)
maybe the mound is the box from fnaf 4. whats inside is something someone wants to forget, so they buried it. to me that makes way more sense then it being a grave, but it is fnaf so it could totally be a grave. XD
I can see it being the box, if only we had more evidence for the box being buried there.
@@TheDoctorIsIn101The only issue is in the newest dawko interview scott basically confirmed that he has no idea what the box was supposed to be nor what it even would be anymore.
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Personally:
It's because this is the first time we're playing from HIS Perspective. He's no longer "In the Shadows" (as Scott's words) because... how would you not know who YOU are?
Every other time he's been seen by someone else, not by himself.
This is also backed up because of how FNAF 6 CLEARLY makes it blunt "this is William" by associating him with Yellow AND Purple. Especially since his Fursona is a Golden Rabbit.
Now as for MY MM Theory:
Henry is Couch Guy
Michael is the Runaway (And Not Lured, like in Theory 2)
The Lump... MAYBE Sister Location's Entrance?
JR's being a shut down Fredbear's, like how Into The Pit's "Jeff's Pizza" is a shutdown Freddy Fazbear's MCI Location. NOT a previously unknown FazEnt brand, but just something that took over the Vacant Building.
A notable detail that wasnt mentioned is:
I dont believe ANY Theories brought up the fact that he's *repeatedly* Run away, ESPECIALLY the "Shadow Freddy Leads Him to Charlie" theory...
I'm not sure where EXACTLY Michael is going, as it's either Offscreen, or JRs, but considering he's still fucked up by CC's Death/Incident, it's highly likely it's SOMETHING related to CC.
Perhaps a nearby Hospital, maybe JRs where CC was Bitten, or somewhere Else that's important (Say, a Hill perhaps?), but it's certainly somewhere Michael feels strongly about, enough to tempt his Father's Wrath.
As for the Footprints:
I suspect it's an Endo/"Proto-Nightmare". Something placed there to be spooky/to try and dissuade him from running off again. Of course, it's likely he knocked it over on his way out (There IS a conveniently placed bush which could hide a tipped over endo RIGHT behind those 2 prints...)
Of course, "Later that Night" WOULD refer to Charlie's Death.
This is generally the best theory i've come up with, that more or less solves some of the biggest points, with the info we have.
As for why i Disagree with Elizabeth being dead prior:
The Funtimes were likely made AFTER the MCI, or were in-progress around the same time. With Charlie's Death, this would put it prior to the MCI as well. If the Funtimes dont exist, they cant kill Elizabeth.
I suspect William's Motive to Pursue Remnant Research WAS Charlie Possessing the Puppet. Effectively striking the BIGGEST Holy Grail in Human History. With the MCI being a "Proof" that it's Replicable/that the Theory he holds can hold Water.
The Funtimes being a plan to Upscale "Production", before being Shelved when Elizabeth died Day One. Later being repurposed for the Rental Service.
You're right, I'd did forget to mention that the Runaway specifically has run away more than once apparently, inferring that this isn't the first time he's done it. Personally I would prefer it if Michael is the Runaway, but like I said in the video A) It makes more sense for the animatronic to be a paranormal one, being that it is only a single set of footprints and B) Although Henry is a possibility, I personally think there's more evidence to support Mike being the couch person (I.E. Gray text, gray shirt, and the fact we see Mike watching TV in SL.)
The dirt mound COULD be the entrance to SL...But, also, how would that lead to the elevator we clearly see. The facility is apparently one where multiple people work, so a random mound in the forest is a bit odd.
Still, I would agree, Funtimes being after the MCI makes more sense.
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 >But, also, how would that lead to the elevator we clearly see. The facility is apparently one where multiple people work, so a random mound in the forest is a bit odd.
Simple, actually:
Sister Location (as we see it) doesnt exist yet.
At least in my theory:
It began at least as a Basement/Extension of Fredbear's Family Diner, in 1983 or earlier (possibly as early as 1979 at least), functioning as a Storage Area/Workshop where both Henry and William worked on the Springlocks (and why a previously unknown, and possibly unfinished/prototype Springlock is present) AND Classics. Especially since William's own private Office is located there, with stuff that could ONLY have been implemented in 1983 (Cameras watching CC, a layout of Fredbear's, listing two Animatronics on stage)
Later, it was Expanded when CBPW was set to open and suddenly closed, before turning into CBEAR (as we see it in Sister Location).
FazEnt absorbs Afton Robotics (and the Location) after Afton disappears (when he got springlocked in 93), some time between the buyout and FNAF 3 or so, SL takes Place.
Even Later still, FazEnt FURTHER Expands Sister Location, to function as a full on Distribution Hub for their "Special Delivery" Service in AR.
>being that it is only a single set of footprints
At the same time, an Endo that's meant to be a Scarecrow doesnt *need* to move, either (especially if it were made of a bunch of spare junk lying around). Simply just place it down infront of the window.
>I personally think there's more evidence to support Mike being the couch person (I.E. Gray text, gray shirt, and the fact we see Mike watching TV in SL.)
At the same time, he speaks to William as if *he's* an adult as well, and Henry has *also* been depicted in Grey/with Grey text (and Bald), more recently than Michael even.
Additionally, this WOULD explain a few things much better:
Why was the Security Puppet made? (To take care of Charlie/make sure she's safe while he's Babysitting Michael/William's Shithead Son)
Why wasnt he there that night (as mentioned in FNAF 6)? (Again, Babysitting Michael)
Alongside:
It'd make sense if the two take Shifts at Freddy's, rather than both being present all the time.
Both of them would know eachother well enough, being Coworkers and MAYBE Friends? It wouldnt be odd for Henry to help out when his friend's just lost a child to a terrible accident.
*And* a bit of a cruel twist as well, Henry babysitting William's Child at the same time William is murdering his Daughter, none the wiser until he comes in later for work/gets a call. (And likely not knowing *who* the killer was until Years Later when he finally pieced it together)
At the very least it 100% fits the Behavior of Couch Guy AND fits far more with the plotline than Michael does.
(...also Michael is maybe only 13-14 or so at this point of time, i dont think he'd be THAT large in the chair too, possibly :V)
Agreed on the order.
CC is hospitalized (you can make the argument the CC either dies before or after Charlie's or Elizabeth's deaths).
Charlie is killed in some sick twisted way for William to get revenge, maybe showing that possession is a thing for the first time (you can make the argument that CC dies in the hospital sometime after this, which could explain why one of the last things William possibly said, was the whole "put you back together" thing). It's also notable that Henry says Charlie is William's first victim. With CC's death being 100% an accident caused by Michael, the MCI being a very public case the Henry couldn't have possibly missed, and the Baby Crew requiring William to learn about possession for him to even build them like that, Charlie's death HAS to be either the first or the second (you can argue first to explain the "put back together" line as well).
MCI happens either for William to deliberately experiment with possession or simply as him escalating his crimes before stumbling upon possession for the first time.
William builds the Baby Crew to automate the process of possession and remnant collection, but Elizabeth is accidentally killed.
The yellow guy is actually every character ever
If Elizabeth was the one under the mound, then it would explain why Afton was drunk as hell and driving down the wrong side of the highway. HIS OWN KID DIED!
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For Midnight Motorist, this is my possible understanding:
-The Runaway is Mike
-The Couch character would be Ms. Afton
-The Yellow Guy is definitely William Afton
-The Unmarked Grave is Crying Child
My theory is, Latter that Night happens on the same night as Charlie's death, which would have happened shortly after the Bite of '83 (or even on the same day). The person running away would be Mike, going after the unmarked pile, aka, Crying Child grave, because of his death.
Afton arrives at the house, and Ms. Afton asks Afton to leave Mike alone, because he had a hard day (guilt for CC's death), the fact that she was watching TV, just like Mike in Fnaf SL, could be the explanation for who Mike inherited the habit of watching soap operas from.
For the footprints, perhaps we could consider Crying Child influencing the Fredbear animatronic, luring Mike to his grave.
Statement 1: I believe that the person sitting on the couch is Mrs. Afton, because in Security Breach, Vanessa, with Elizabeth's false memories implanted by Glitchtrap, says that she was coerced into saying that Mrs. Afton was not a good person. For this to happen, Elizabeth would have to be a certain age, probably 3 or 4 years old or older. Fnaf Special Delivery shows us that Elizabeth's room seen in the Fnaf 4 minigame has a crib, belonging to Elizabeth, and since it is empty in Fnaf 4, it is possible that she was not born yet during the gameplay of Fnaf 4, only being born later, which would imply that Mrs. Afton would still be alive or present. In addition, it is reasonable that watching TV is something that Mike learned or inherited from his mother. Furthermore, to give an order like the one Afton received, I think only a family figure of the same level would be capable of, the mother.
Statement 2: Regarding the Crying Child, I believe it is possible that he is possessing Fredbear, that is, controlling the animatronics like the children in MCI, possibly being the one causing the "It's me" hallucinations in Fnaf 1, and being a second soul in Golden Freddy, as indicated in the Survivor Logbook. There is also the possibility that he is a wandering spirit or a lost soul, as indicated in the Fnaf Character Encyclopedia. It was only after Happiest Day, which I believe actually happened in Fnaf 3, that Charlie, Cassidy and Mike together helped Crying Child to rest. Whatever the real state of Crying Child, both seem to work for this theory.
If there are any flaws or something that I have forgotten or that does not make sense, feel free to comment.
My issue regarding anything Mrs. Afton is that, yeah, she logically had to exist to give birth to three children--but we know very little about her. There's more evidence to suggest she left William Afton at some point, at the very least. You could say Mike "inherited" a love for Soap Operas from his mother, but the couch person has a gray shirt, gray text, and of course is watching television just like Mike did in SL--personally in my opinion, considering that we have SEEN Mike sitting in a chair watching TV already, the best and likely option would be that Mike is couch person.
"He went to that place again", inferring that wherever the Runaway went is somewhere they've been before. Clearly Afton in the minigame is abusive, but we know of one place that Afton isn't allowed--that being Jr's. When Afton goes to Jr's the Green Guy says something along the lines of, "You know you can't be here, don't make this any harder than it has to", inferring that Afton is familiar with Jr's and, for some reason, isn't allowed there. It makes sense to me that, if the Runaway was trying to escape his father's abuse, he'd go somewhere his father wouldn't be allowed.
Also, the "It's Me" line isn't actually special to Golden Freddy. In the recently released interactive novel, "The Week Before", all the animatronics are shown to use that phrase.
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 Make sense, thanks for the reply!
@@lordvik2259On top of the previous comment, we know from UCN and Help Wanted 2 that the MCI happened before charlie's death(Charlie is last in the death order), meaning the animatronic footprints could be cassidy influencing the golden freddy suit. On top of the fact that David/CC refers to the freddy's plushes as his friends, it could be possible that the MCI victims were CC's friends, and that "leave him alone, he had a rough day today" could refer to him loosing his friends in the MCI, which could be why william isn't allowed at JR's, as we know previously when an incident happened, previous employees weren't allowed back into the location.
I have a long explanation for my theory about JR's being Freddy's and the runaway being CC/David, but can't write it all out at the moment.
If you're curious at all though, I can drop it in the replies below if you're interested
@@roscoe5427I’m certainly curious! Everything you’ve laid out so far is interesting
@@roscoe5427 It's an interesting idea, the MCI taking place before Charlie's death, but it's very likely that this isn't the case, in Silver Eyes, Charlie's grave is marked 1980-1983, Charlie died in 83. The book Into The Pit and the new Fnaf game Into the Pit make it clear that the date of the MCI is June 26, 1985.
Charlie's death is on 1983, while the MCI is on 85. Regarding the Help Wanted plushies, it is quite clear that it is symbolic
In my personal opinion here’s what I
Midnight motorist takes place in 1987 for a couple reasons
1. The dice.
2 mph 187
3. The different house.
. The orange guy is William (five laps at Freddy’s basically confirmed it)
. The mini game takes place later after William commits the DCI as the description says
“ Talk about a killer ride! This smooth cruiser is the perfect choice for anyone wanting to flee a crime scene win a race”
. Jrs is what happened to Fred bears after it shut down it got turned into a bar and then later the Fnaf 6 location.
For proof the Fnaf 6 location is Fredbears
1. The alley where Charlie dies looks exactly like the alley where the scrap animatronics are at
2. In the epilogues for tales of the pizza Plex there’s actually a safe room in the Fnaf 6 location
3. Rockstar Freddy is the mascot and has a purple hat and bowtie, which only Fred bear had before
4. In SB there’s arcade where the art shows Fredbear and spring Bonnie‘s ghost overtop a burning building
. William is likely not allowed because Of either two reasons
1. They want no association with the old creators of the diner
2. The green guy knows William Afton murdered the 5 children and wants nothing to do with him. Everyone knows William did the MCI they just can’t convict them because there was no bodies found
. The mound is A grave as it stated to be one in one of the guides
. The grave likely belongs to Elizabeth.
It can’t be crying child for 2 reasons
1.everyone knows that he died. His death is public knowledge as confirmed by the week before and into the pits announcer
2. Crying child has no relevance in 6 story
Elizabeth on the other hand no one was around to witness her death when William knows any he covered it up with the gas leaks
. The house is different because William moved after 1983. It’s probably not in the neighborhood anymore because everyone knows William is a criminal
. The person on the couch is Ms Afton.
1. If we look at the midnight motors house, there is no other car meaning that the person on the other couch uses William’s car
2. The person talks to William like they’re on the same level they tell them what to do
3. Into the pit game story parallels midnight motorist And there are only 3 family members in Oswald’s family
Oswald’s mom
Oswald’s dad
Oswald
for midnight motorist, it would be
Mike’s mom
Mike’s dad
Mike
. Mike is the runway no surprise there.
1. All the siblings are dead so, it kinda has to be him
2. Mike is shown to be a rebel
. Mike is likely 16 or 17 since he’s shown to still be living with his parents
. if the Oswald parallel is true the reason why William doesn’t want Mike to keep leaving the house and locked him in his room is because Mike witness William commit the MCI
( note: using parallel as a narrative thing not the game theory way into the pit is canon in my opinion. I’m saying the game has a deeper connection/repeat of events)
. “That place again” would be the 1987 Freddys
. the thing outside the window is likely there because Mike kept going back to that location so something followed him home
. The animatronic outside Mike’s window I think could be W. foxy or Freddy (I am not exactly sure I thought golden Freddy was the most likely option, but it seems in the week before he has a vendetta against Mike)
. “ He’ll be sorry when he gets back” I think can mean 2 things
. Nightmare experiments.
. Forces him to look at the location as Fritz Smith
ive always had an issue with the "dirt mound" as to me i see a burned house lot.... to me i see a driveway and a lot where a house would have been but was burned down and that tiny bit we see is what's left of the house.... it also makes sense with how many fires we've had.. and yes i think specifically a burnt down house not a building like a faz bear or a fair ground.. but i see a house lot ... the driveway i see is big enough for one car not like a parking lot and it leads up to a big burned up rectangle like it was a small 1 car garage house.. ive never seen it as a mound.. i see the mound yes .. but i don't think its dirt... in the cut scene bits where chica is a stand in for william explaining his killings more in depth she says something that always stuck out.. yes people have mentioned the part where william will go around to their window... but to me it's further in that sticks out... she says.. if they won't come out and or let him in side the house that he'll just burn it down with them inside.. and to me that sticks out... like that scot was specifically pointing out that yes orange guy is william by the fact that he goes to the window but that he is and has burnt down someones house before .. and to me that mound and lot look too much like a burnt down house lot than anything else... it seems to small for a fair ground .. not enough room for parking and for the entertainment and it doesn't seem big enough for a business because of the same issue no room for parking and business but if it's a single small lot home that maybe had enough room for a driveway or a driveway and a 1 car garage that seems like the perfect size for this lot.. and the whole lot is that dark color like it's been burnt.. and that mound may just be what's left of a burnt down house..
Fun fact; at 25:22 it looks like the Plushtrap hallway from Fnaf 4, same colors, doors side by side and paneling.
It does!
I got a thought that
- David died first
- William then creates Baby specifically to kill Charlie because Freadbear was of Henry's design so he wants to hurt him as much as he supposedly hurt Afton before as he created a faulty animatronic that closed his jaw when he was not supposed to, so William literally blames Henry for killing his son
Maybe Charlie was supposed to be one of the guests at the opening of Circus Baby's?
- instead William's daughter accidently got killed
- William covers her death (dirt mound) as he doesn't want for the public to know that he designed lethal animatronic on purpose
- some time after he goes completely crazy from losing two kids, getting drunk, speeding on wrong side of highway and killing Charlie the first time he has an ocassion to do so
but unfortunately that would mean that the one on the couch has to be Mrs. Afton, and the runaway is Mike as that is literally the only possible option, also that would mess a timeline a bit
This doesn't work IMO due to the fact that it's established that William randomly kills Charlie as she was isolated and was not at all expecting her to possess the puppet. Puppet is also the first one to be noted as acting weird and Henry calls her the first victim of William ("wound first afflicted on me"), meaning this was likely the first murder-possession. This is a big deal because the express purpose of the Baby crew was to kidnap, kill, and then extract the remnant of children for William's experimentation. Charlie's death (or his plans for it according to this theory) would have to have been a decent amount of time BEFORE SL so that he could learn about possession and remnant in the first place.
I however agree with some things here. I absolutely believe he blamed Henry for his broken family due to his insane ego and when he saw Charlie isolated, he practically jumped at the chance to kill her. Afterwards, he gets drunk to process this and recklessly drives while drunk, hence why it's called "later that night".
Maybe you can argue the death order is [CC > MCI > Elizabeth > Charlie]. Crying Child's death leads to William going crazy. William kills children, perhaps either as a deranged way to afflict the same pain onto other parents or because he hates seeing children happy now and the MCI happens. He learns of possession and decides to create animatronics to automate the process of killing so that he can experiment further, leading to Elizabeth's accidental death. Feeling angry, he randomly stumbled upon Charlie isolated while in the area (I like the theory that William was driving to the restaurant to possibly confront and maybe even kill Henry) and murders her. But this order falls as Charlie is explicitly called the first murder-possession by Henry as CC's death is confirmed accidental. You could argue that maybe Henry didn't know when Baby died and he could've gotten that wrong, but the MCI was very public, so there's no way he would get that wrong and William needs either the MCI to happen first (which is disputed by Henry) or Charlie's murder-possession to happen first (which goes against your theory that William built the Baby crew to target Charlie as he would have to know how possession even works).
In my best idea of the time I too said Elizabeth Died before CC/David, but Elizabeth not First, she is 6th. If you want to me to explain well I think the MCI happen in 1983 as I think CC was on to Afton due to some of the clearly haunted bear plush, But the MCI keep being push back before Charlie who dies in 1983 so why not the same year, in fact if Circus Baby would fit opening that year only for it not go right. More and more William intended to kill the kids, he just got his own kids stuck in the mix.
Unfortunately I don't think the MCI happened in 1983, and the recent Into the Pit game supports that. Into the Pit takes place in 1985, and we see the MCI victims there.
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 my problem with into the Pit is the game seem more in line the books story for obvious reasons then the games, I don’t think the books stories are in the games, instead similar rules and ideas can exist in the games. But mainly the 6th kid kind of ruins a lot about this being the MCI, also the fact the MCI took 2 days. At best this is similar to the DCI. But Help Wanted 2 is a big deal as Puppet is after G Freddy, these details can’t be the same unless the kids died twice which is impossible even with Faz-Goo or Lonely Freddy(s) being a thing.
22:22 How would have Crying Child witnessed Circus Baby killing Elizabeth if the animatronic deliberately waited for everyone but 1 child to be alone in the room? Circus Baby was meticulous in keeping count of how many kids there were. 🧐
Yeah that's definitely a valid point. If I had to speculate? He could've walked in literally at the moment it happened. It's definitely flimsy, I'd much more likely believe that Crying Child is just scared of the animatronics in general as opposed to being scared of them because of something specific.
I think Afton didnt become murderous bc of his kids deaths. He just became a immortality scientist after he discovered the mcis possessions and Charlie's haunting. I think the secrets of the Mimic will reveal Afton was always a killer. I think Henry's "A wound first inclicted upon me" will refer to an incident Afton did before the 80s and will reveal that Henry buried his head in the sand and covered up for Afton until he couldn't anymore.
@19:00 It could be Cassidy in the Go0lden Freddy suit in the dirt mound. That would explain why they are both together. The one Afton should not have killed is going after his son for revenge. That is my hypothesis (not a theory!)
17:15 Shadow Freddy was created from The Bite Of 83 so it could have already existed then
Holy shit fender skirt lore!
Maybe it's just because the mini games aren't that detailed but I just wanted to point out that there are no glass shards outside of the broken window so there could be a possibility that whoever ran away from that room didn't actually ran away but something has gotten inside and took him OR at least that the window was broken from the outside. It's nothing important and probably not true but I just wanted to say that
Here’s my theory what if Mike is the only one that sees golden Freddy as nightmare Fred bear especially after his brother died
It's not William, it's the parent William framed. I haven't seen anything that convinces me otherwise.
Did you watch the video
witteraly
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Great theory!
The only thing I find a bit far fetched about this theory is Elizabeth being in the “unmarked grave”. Being killed or rather grabbed by Baby can reasonably imply that she was put inside the animatronic. If there were evidence to suggest that Elizabeth was not always in Baby then I think this theory would be far more plausible. I’m sure some people don’t have many problems with where bodies end up but this franchise always makes a fairly big point of locating said bodies. Overall though, great theory and I love your take on this mini game being a bit different most. Nice and fresh
Thanks! That's understandable, I have my own issues with Elizabeth being in the grave but looking at the minigame I think it does make some sense in conjuction with the rest of the Midnight Motorist. If I had to give a possible answer as to why Elizabeth's body wouldn't still be in there? Well, we know that the Funtimes have of course been scooped prior to SL--Baby implies that this isn't their first escape attempt and we even see Ballora scooped on Night 4. I think it's reasonable to say Elizabeth's body would've been removed at some point, most likely by Afton. Otherwise somebody else would've eventually found the body.
That applies to other animatronics as well. Although we see in the newspapers that the bodies of the MCI were never found, they would've logically had to have been EVENTUALLY found by Fazbear Entertainment when they were remodeling the animatronics between FNaF 2 and FNaF 1 (the Withereds have completely different suits, after all.)
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 That makes sense. When saying locating bodies I didn’t think about where they all end up because you are right in saying the franchise does not really make that clear. Still a fantastic theory. I look forward to the next ones you got.
@@MrBHS420 Thank you!
Scott doesn't do something for the hell of it, he's yellow in the mini game cus he's wearing the suit like in flaf
crack-theory: the lump/grave is that of a dog, the Aftons' pet (the only proof being the barking we can hear in FNaF 4,, it could be some memory that they had a dog)) i prefer a kid dying than a dog tho,,
/j
To be fair, I find it interesting that they might've had a dog. Cause you're definitely right, we do hear one in FNaF 4. I think the simpler answer would be that it could've been a neighbor's dog though, just barking in the night.
Midnight Motorist has been unsolved since Its release due to its vague storytelling like FNaF 4 had.
I don't know what Midnight Motorist is about. This minigame can be interpreted in several ways which any of them could be right. But I want to point out something.
The Window was locked. That's why the Runaway broke It. He didn't have any option left. The only way he could go to that place was through breaking the window.
The couch person seems to be an elderly person who probably at that age is either a bit deaf or can't hear right. He probably had the TV's sound high that's why he didn't hear him.
Despite of what I said, cool theory. It's a good take.
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
I've seen people speculate that the TV person could be Mrs. Afton; which, sure, could be. We're talking about simplified pixels here but personally it looks like a male, so if anything I could maybe see the couch person being Henry--but I think Mike works more effectively because we see him watching TV in SL.
You are right though, there's a hundred different interpretations for Midnight Motorist.
@16:00 who is Garrett?
Garret is the name of the Mike's brother in the movie; some people think Garret is also the name of the Crying Child from FNaF 4.
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 I thought his name was Dave.
That's just a new thing because of HyperDroid's video. It could be right, might not be. It just depends on what you'd rather call him.
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 Oh, Sorry just never heard of him regarded as Garrett. I heard him called Gregory a few times.
@@HITMANPegas No worries!
It’s not William. Ozone states in his latest midnight motorist theory that the yellow guy isn’t afton and that it’s the OG owner of the purple car, let me explain. In the immortal and the restless, after Clara says she’s going to take Vlad’s car, Vlad responds with “ Jokes on you! It’s a rental.” Which could mean that Afton rented the purple car from the yellow guy to kill charlie and frame it on him, but not just that, he also decorated it with a spring bonnie antenna to make it seem like yellow guy was the MCI murderer, when in reality, Afton was the killer. And since William has a person to frame, he kidnapped and killed the yellow guy’s kid ( Cassidy) so that yellow guy would be blamed since yellow guy was at the scene and he has a spring bonnie antenna.
The theory is believe in is midnight-MCI
That's such a stretch tho. There's nothing saying he rented it from Yellow Guy, and the purple car is only connected ever connected to Afton. The argument that Afton "rented" the car all hinges on a semi-comparison cartoon that's more so about Michael being William's son. Also, that's not how rental cars work. You rent vehicles from dealerships, not some random people.
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 Alright you beat me.😂 I just really wanted to continue believing in midnight- mci because it was the theory i originally believed in.
But here’s the more likely story of midnight motorist: William is driving home after murdering Charlie, but first, he tries to get into the bar, but is denied( probably because he gets out of control when he’s drunk or he just over-drinks). Then he goes back to driving home, in a worse mood, wanting to take his anger out on someone, and who else but Michael. William goes into his house, talks to his wife or dad(We don’t really know the couch person’s gender yet), and gets told to leave Michael alone since he’s had a bad day. But he doesn’t listen and goes straight to Michael’s room, he knocks on his door, no answer, he gets even more frustrated and knocks again, shouting at him this time, but once again, no answer. But this makes William even more angry, and he goes around the house to go through his window, when he sees something unexpected, the window’s already open, then William realizes, he’s gone to that place again. That “place” he talks about is CC/Dave’s grave, a location that William also visits before going to his house, this house is a house the Aftons moves to after the events of fnaf 4 and maybe could be where the gameplay part of fnaf 4 takes place.
Ok that’s all, tell what think of everything i said in this reply!
Shadow Freddy’s humble beginning in midnight motorist isn’t that far fetched. It goes like this. William unleashes all his envy and anger he built up for Henry onto Charlie which creates this agony being, Shadow Freddy. The story In the flesh even supports this idea as the baby springtrap was given life through Matt pouring all his rage and anger into him. That being said I have another point which might prove that the footprints belongs to Shadow Freddy. Since Nightmare is Shadow Freddy and Nightmare is a dark reflection of nightmare fredbear then it is safe to say that Shadow Freddy is Fredbear. Why do I say this? Well MMAfton is the same colour as Fredbear while his other appearances is purple just like Shadow Freddy. So if Afton’s colour change is linked to Fredbear/Nightmare then the links to ShadowFootprints becomes even stronger.
your mic sounnds good keep it bro
Thank you! I appreciate it
yeah, we solved it
Real
What if the footprints is just a bear and the runaway ran away in fear from the bear? /j
That would be amazing
Your mic sounds fine! I don't think you need to get a new one or mess with the audio. Good job presenting the different interpretations of MM. I think it really shows the most viable options and it really comes down to that dirt mound (lol) and when you think Elizabeth died. It does seem like more and more things are starting to point to sister location occurring much earlier than we all thought. However, it really makes things confusing because of certain lines in SL like the one hand unit says at the beginning
("Due to the massive success and even more so the unfortunate closing of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, it was clear that the stage was set, no pun intended, for another contender in children's entertainment. Unlike most entertainment venues, our robotic entertainers are rented out for private parties during the day, and it's your job to get the robots back in proper working order before the following morning.”)
Idk lol. Good work on the vid though
Thank you! I really appreciate the kind words. I think the differentiation is that Sister Location the game itself probably DID take place a little later (after FNaF 1 at least), but the Funtimes themselves could've been made way earlier. We know that prior to SL there was "Circus Baby's Pizza World" which is where Elizabeth died, but Sister Location actually takes place in "Circus Baby Entertainment and Rentals". Still, it's weird that the Funtimes would exist as early as the 80s.
In this video game, Spring Bonnie is actually out in the rain... ik it can just be a sping off odd thing but what if is intentional?
FLaF is FLaP with an F
This is my theory and I don’t mind people disagreeing with me, but I think JR’s was a Freddy’s location similar to how ‘Five Nights at Freddy’s: Into the Pit’ Freddy’s Location became Jeff’s Pizza
I can definitely see that!
Great theory
Thank you!
Best bet for the mound is the dog
The best ending for the mound is that it's just dirt, nothing else.
@TheDoctorIsIn101 you're not wrong. But it's so odd it'll always itch a part of your brain
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 It really would be. The Lump(tm) is Lore Critical in it's OWN way...
Hey I don't know if anyone thought about this theory since why wouldn't I think about the dirt mad as a secret hatch everyone knows William is cautious and in a night when will go down to the bunker or sister location if we're speaking about location-wise would use their Mount as a secret place to put the emergency hatch think about it elevator to stop working William will be stuck down there with killer animatronics that would probably want to kill him you know he programmed them they probably would have settings or be possessed at this point that wants to kill him so of course you are a hit and hatch and went by a place to put a match somewhere nobody will think of auspicious I mean come on you can think that somebody build a dirt man or it was there at all time when the house is built we don't know the house is built or not because knowing William he most likely would have built this house
Okay I'm sorry I forgot to mention that William could have expanded on a existing Subway or sewer because I believe it's a sewer it's weird that it's designed to have four ways you have to go and you have to use vent pass to go back and forth to different locations because I'm assuming that where the house it's it's in four direct areas where the fun times are delivered or on the same location but used to map out one location entirely so they can access the fun times but here's the question where does the fun times get out from I put 100% sure William will not be stupid enough to pull animatronic out of a vent to his house because do I look at it he testing them see if they're possessed or not because William collecting remnant there's a chance that one of those fun times could possess so William is shocking them to check at their possessed or not because animatronics would probably shut down or act out a little but if it was a human soul in there you're probably would try to lash out at William swelling was checking when they are possessed William could study them. But here's a question where do William get the fun times from cuz I'm pretty sure you wouldn't keep them in that location under his house unless there's a building under there that will connect them to that location and William puts the fun times near his house so he could collect them and on do test on them and collect around and off them if there is any cuz.
Hate to be THAT GUY, but...Garret was ONLY Mike's brother in the films (and neither of them were related to William\Steve Raglan).
When I said "Garret" I was reading from somebody else's interpretation of the minigame. Even then, the dude's name is definitely not the most important aspect of Midnight Motorist
Yeah, "we" solved it
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william's dad!
I'm gonna take anything from a kart racing game that's made mostly by fans. It's clearly just fan interpretation of MM by the devs and they would add it just because it's a car related minigame in the fnaf franchise.
By that logic we shouldn't take Security Breach at face value either, it wasn't made by Scott. The racing game was made by Clickteam, who have worked a lot more closely with Scott than most.
" It's clearly just fan interpretation of MM by the devs" Makes no sense.
If the DEVS of a Fnaf game add lore, it's no longer fan interpretation, it's just canon lore now.
@@TheHaddonfieldRegistry yeah and there's Burntrap in SB. I think since AftonMM is the most popular theory, they thought they'd add it for fun.
@@aminethbt885 Burntrap is still canon, SB is still canon, and Scott still created the character of Burntrap, so that logic still isn't checking out
@@TheDoctorIsIn101 I highly doubt Scott told them to put it there, I believe this game was made based on their ideas not Scott's, the only thing Scott did was giving them the license. Scott has said in the past he doesn't check on side projects often. I doubt he would confirm and end an entire debate in a spinoff kart racer game.
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