Why am I only just now realizing that the music plays on one side of the headphones? This was not the case in editing I don't know why this happened for youtube lol So I wanted to add a few things to the video which I either didn't include, thought of after the video's release, for clarity and even some issues with the theory that I myself have. - For clarity Cassidy isn't leaving breadcrumbs for CC to reach the real Happiest Day, rather what we see in the logbook is her trying to get him to remember the events of his past so that they can use his memories to set him free along with the others. However, if the logbook conversation is meta then the convo could be a recreation of the plot of world while also telling the pieces to happiest day. - For Cassidy helping Afton before the false happiest day is created allowing him to effortlessly control the spirts, he is able to manipulate Cassidy into putting the pieces together with the MCI. Why would she help her killer? Well with stories such as Coming Home with Susie not knowing she is died continuing to live her life at her house and Alone Forever having Travis not knowing how he died or that he was dead I think Cassidy doesn't remember either. All she remembers is that the yellow rabbit is or might be a friend as he is the only one who's willing to guide her. The happiest day only maintains that delusion. - Ok now for an issue I have. If Cassidy wanted to help CC remember so that they can have the real Happiest Day then that would mean she is no longer under Afton's influence so then why would the puppet need to be the one to bring the children together for the Happiest Day if Cassidy could possibly do it herself? If the puppet is doing it then would that not mean that all the kids are under some form of influence until the puppet helps undo it with CC's memories? Or is it that after FNAF 6 the spirits remember but are still trapped in the metal prisons they reside in and now that they are all merged together the puppet can help the spirits move on? I think this is a bit of a hole in the theory but would like you're comments on this point.
I can answer the issue you have. Think of it like Micheal brooks who is under the influence of the yellow rabbit and isn’t against him yet he puts the pieces of his friends back together because he knows that something have gone wrong, and I don’t think that once they are put back together they can be free yet, as they don’t remember that they are dead hence you can’t free a dead soul that doesn’t think that they are dead. Cassidy is doing the same with bv, making him remember the memories to help him, to try to put him back together along with the MCI kids, though she doesn’t want to free them but to reunite with them again.
Loved the video, good job! I have to ESPECIALLY commend you for bringing awareness to “happiest day” actually being William’s twisted way to keep the spirits trapped. I don’t blame anyone for thinking happiest day is just what we see on the surface, but the deeper context of it is really important!!
@@Sethxiety no clue Ive just never seen it mentioned before. If the only time the plush has pupils is inside the house and the park it could mean...anything?
Yeah, that's weird to me as well. I just view that as manipulation. He thinks this is a good thing, he thinks this will help him but ultimately it doesn't
Holy crap it’s actually a Shattervictim video, cool. Something you missed for Elizabeth dying prior to the MCI is that Circus Baby’s has a springlock suit, which was banned after the MCI. I do wanna say just because that I believe the plush is just imaginary during the main minigames with William taking over in the final one. This coincides very well with something I’ll bring up later as well as the text color changing in the final minigame. Also, it makes the logbook happy, given the logbook implies the plush is an imaginary friend. The great thing here is that William is still behind the plush (the plush is connected to William), but it’s also an imaginary friend for BV that he can pour his agony into. I don’t agree that Fnaf World is canon given the Fredbear Plush mentions Scott Cawthon. How I view Fnaf World is that it’s a representation of actual stuff happening, it’s a representation of William connecting pieces of BV to the MCI by recreating his fears (an animatronic “eating” someone and their body never being found), but it’s not literally happening in the way we see it in Fnaf World. It’s sort of like how in the logbook you have Cassidy and BV talking, but they aren’t LITERALLY talking through a book. It’s a representation of conversations do that happen between the two, it just didn’t actually happen that way. Lastly I wanna call out the fact that William’s motivation in The Fourth Closet is basically the same as it is here. Henry puts a piece of himself into the Ella doll, William wants to figure out how that happened. This is what causes Baby to be created, and both cause him to kill the MCI and create Molten Freddy. Under Shattervictim/whatever you wanna call it, this motivation is extremely similar in the games with a new coat of paint. This time, BV poured his agony and stuff into HIS plush, and then died. William, wanting to figure out how that happened, tries to kidnap kids and recreate the fears that may have caused it (this is Circus Baby’s and Dittophobiac and it’s why William keeps the Fredbear Plush with him in the private room). This doesn’t get the result he wanted, however he does learn more about ghosts/possession, which causes him to commit the MCI. Unlike Dittophobia, where he tried to recreate the fear in a new child, here he just uses BV’s own fears, he uses what he already knows worked. Sure enough, it works, and later down the line he uses this to do Funtime stuff which results in Molten Freddy. Molten Freddy is his final goal: the MCI and BV put back together. See how similar these plots are? In both timeline, this is what sparks William. The context isn’t the same which creates all of the differences between the two, but William NEEDS that spark to get started in both. But why is William doing all of this for his son? Once again, same reason he does it for Henry in the novels: he wants to learn how to replicate it in himself and become his own “immortal” creation. I think that’s all from me for now, great video!
Ay yeah I agree with this. However I do think Charlie dies first in the games as well which starts his paranormal journey. Also while world is kinda meta, the clock ending is canon imo. I do have an idea on how most of world can be canon itself but that will have to wait for now ;) Also the springlock suit I knew about. It will be used in an Elizabeth’s death video
@@Sethxiety Charlie’s death whether before or after BV doesn’t seem too related to the whole BV back together plot (she joins that after she’s already puppet, and he kills her out of hatred for Henry), but it definitely seems to be when William learned that ghosts exist. Like, he kills Charlie, leaves, and then sees puppet acting up. He wasn’t there to see the puppet go to her body, so he has no idea how she possessed the puppet. That’s then why Elizabeth’s death is important, that’s when he learned HOW ghosts possess robots, not that ghosts are real. So I agree!
God this is REALLY GOOD. In particular calling out that if William is glitchbear, the “you were made for one thing” makes so much more sense. I literally had to pause and just let that sit for a minute. I have different ideas about what happens to Crying Child between dying and happiest day, but I wanna cover it one day in a full video. Basically it’s just that he’s in the Fredbear plush in the bunker until sister location where MoltenMCI happens and Mike, CC, and Cassidy along with the other MCI kids are all in one place together and leave together. The the logbook and 3 happen. But the glitchbear William manipulation angle really is so good, I really want to make both narratives work together.
Ah I appreciate that. This is something I've had on my mind for months and it was good to get it to work together finally. Biggest issue was what was glitchbear referring to when I said “I wont let the same happen to you” until I realized he doesn't want him to possess an animatronic like the MCI. But thanks for watching, glad you liked it
Haven't played the games yet, but I'm convinced that the MCI was happening leading up to Cassidy's death. Yeah, I'm stating that Cassidy is the crying child. So it's very possible that William moved Cassidy home to experiment on him and when Cassidy died he turned those experiments to Mike.
Cassidy is confirmed to not be Crying Child, i Mean... Books, Games, Movie, you know, their theory is Very bad though It's satisfying, but sadly theories are not Made This way
I really like this video! I have two questions though: why does Chica say she was the first, and that she has seen everything in UCN, and what do you make of the grave order in Help Wanted 2?
First, thank you for watching! 1. Susie was the first of the MCI. 2. If it means anything it’s the order the spirits moved on. Puppet is last cause she is the last to move on. We even see this in frights as she is the one to take down Afton
Wait, I have a HUGE problem with this theory!!!! How can William Afton be in the sister location bunker, talking thru the walkie-talkie and spying on the CC using the cameras down there, when we literally SEE HIM IN THE RESTAURANT helping the guy get the Bonnie suit on in the night 3 mini game??? Please explain how on earth he can be in two places at once😅. Love the content tho! Ur so good at editing! ❤❤❤
In the video I said CC did not go through the experiments in the bunker. The experiment rooms were not a thing yet, he created them after CC's death, So he was only in the restaurant. And thanks it's nice to hear that about the editing.
@@Sethxiety okay I understand the bu let us after the death of CC, but my point still stands. How can afton be chatting to cc thru the bear when he’s putting on suits? Unless he’s a craaazy multitasker and doesn’t mind this random employee overhearing his one sided convo 😭😂 idk it’s just summ that’s always bugged me with afton as the plush
@@BurningSands_FGC It's not the best answer but I did give one in the video. Although another answer I have is that Fredbear plush just had a camera in them to spy on CC. William provoked his fears and wanted to see what would happen. CC's agony infected the plush and via that it was able to talk to him to project his fears to himself. But for the sake of consistency I'm going to stick with the answer in the video.
Good theory but William is not the final speaker mostly due to the text color being different color when the text color from night 1-5 as FFF57 but the final text as FFFFa0,and glitch bear is most likely to be the puppet and the final speaker because about fnaf world is about set up happiest day and glitch bear want us us to find clock and the puppet music box sing my grandfather's clock
Tbh it doesn’t help that dual process messes this all up (which I don’t even agree with them on the CC and Cassidy being the same person as the movie kinda implies otherwise and so does the Pic with the Puppet giving a Cake to a girl (which is probably Cassidy)) the way I like to think of it is that the Plush Fredbear is a small ai made by William to keep CC in check after experimenting on him and ontop of that, CC did see a Body in a Fredbear Suit (Via The Minigame after FNaF4 Night 4, there was hair in there as we see, meaning someone likely got Springlocked before the Bite of ‘83 which is the main reason Fredbears closed down. Now as to How CC possesses Golden Freddy is a really tough question, giving we know he died from the Bite because he did at a hospital (we know because of a flatline) meaning he was likely stuffed into Fredbear likely after he died just for William to try some experiment.
I don't think he was experimented on in the bunker like Rory in tales was. I think William was testing around with ideas and he played around with them using his son, who probably already had a fear of the characters. Hence the camera in the Fredbear plush. Regardless of if William was talking to him before night 6 or only on night 6 I do think William provoked his fears even more and whatever he saw out of CC’s, inspired the experiments. As for him possessing Golden Freddy. He just doesn't imo. He died in a hospital so his soul could not latch onto him. His soul did linger because it was shattered. World is essentially his soul being put back together and lingers at Freddy’s with his friends and the other MCI kids in William’s twisted version of happiest day.
i genuine think that the plush is charlie when the plush is close to a *grand father clock* on fnaf 4 the yellow eyes also connects with security puppet on ffps the plush clearly acts as paranormal theres also the scene of "remember what you saw" where the plush stops bv from getting close at fredbear, and then we see william afton helping a employee put the springbonnie costume how is he the speaker when he can't hold the talkie talkie while helping a employee, and it can't be pre recorded messages because the plush clearly sees what cc is doing (also, i don't think that MM is about andrew anymore, i think that its clearly about gabriel after pizza party showing a bedroom with thunderstorm sounds, and the mound being from susie's burried dog)
My head spins with all these theories. I suppose we dont know who cassidy is. What if cassidy is mrs afton? What if in later that night orange is henry and william afton will be sorry when he gets back.? Lol.
I agree with most of the theory, however, i do not belive that GlitchBear is evil, i kinda belive on two options for glitchbear, being agony or being Charlie.
Fair. My thought process is that if William is the final speaker in 4 then he would also be glitchbear as they seem to be the same person whoever it is.
@@Sethxiety Didn't Afton just hide the bodies in the suits temporarily until he could find the time to bury them in a mass grave? The mound of dirt we saw in Midnight Motorist might have been a mass grave for all the kids William murdered, or at least the first five, six or seven or how many there is hypothesized to be the MCI. I'm just tired and my mind is just spurting out any number of possibilities. Night!
@Neku628 no the bodies were left in the suits. This is told in the movie and the newspapers of fnaf 1. The bodies were mostly likely discovered by Fazbear and well we know what they would do. MM is most likely after Charlie’s death sk the MCI would not have happened yet
@@Sethxiety You are the welcome! This is a helping thing for watching videos. Been doing it since 2018 ever since I watched that 10 hour long play through no commentary 100% Sonic World Adventure / Unleashed video.
Charlie dying first is a bold choice. Its a good theory but thats the outlier. The fnaf 4 gameplay showing hospital equipment, means the gameplay HAS to be after the bite. Either cc in a coma, or Michael being experimented on (or just his guilt from killing his brother mstterih what you believe) In sl, Elizabeth is killed on the first day of opening and is later expermented on. While the fredbear plush along with the cameras of the fnaf 4, i dont believe Elizabeth died before cc. If Elizabeth died then baby and the rest were expermented on, we can assume at least a week passed before Michael is sent to the bunker. After he exits, he heads home to watch tv, this is seemingly his own house, meaning he is at least a adult/young adult and fnaf 1-2 support this with Michael being fired for tampering and foul oder, if these are both Michael then its almost confirmed that he is a adult. Unless foxy bro isnt Michael then he would at least be a teen during the events of fnaf 4, highball 17. Last to piece being midnight motorist. People saying its a replication of the book is bolicks. Midnight motorist internally is called 'later that night...' which means its later after some event that we know of. 'Coincidentally' in the same game, pizza sim, we are shown the death of charlie, which is originally shown to die by a man in a purple car, which also 'coincidentally' the same color of the car which is show in later that night. People argue over the color of the character and why it isnt purple guy. Some say its so we can see the character while others say its because its not William. But that doesnt matter. What does matter is that the car is the same car that 'someone' ran away in after killing Charlie. The kid of the orange guy runs away to either a unmarked grave, or some place called jrs. The feet are probably some projection of golden freddy/fredbear, since its ranning and would kill anyone in a suit (counter to the idea later that night is willam afton is kidnapping) Not to mention the footprints would have washed away if they were made before the rain And assuming the runaway is mike, and mike isnt the one in the chair. Since as you mentioned cc is terrified of freddys and their are rumors that the animatronics come alive at night and stuffed people in suits(by kids btw i dont think they stuffed people) This leaves alot of plotholes like jr not being a obvious bar? The unmarked grave could be Elizabeth and not cc, that being what cc saw and was afraid of. (Unlikely) Or he saw Elizabeths death and that explains why fredbear has a mouth. (Unlikely and makes no sense on a timeline) Either way all ove these clues add up to Charlie dying after cc, midnight motorist shows orange guy (afton) returning to one (maybe 2 being Elizabeth?) and that kid running to a unmarked grave. This kid would be Michael and the grave being ccs grave thus confirming cc died first.
SL is after FNAF1. Not before FNAF2. This is proven by MoltenMCI. It’s impossible for SL to be anywhere other than after 1. Michael _could_ still be Fritz Smith, but it’s not a hard and proven fact, and he is for sure Mike Schmidt. But he’s not a rotting purple man yet. The biggest reason MM is most likely not about Afton is because the house and location are a completely different layout from the Afton house and neighborhood in 4. You might think that doesn’t matter, except it always was in literally every game prior to 6. Scott constantly repeated layouts to clarify locations to us. There is no reason he would change that in 6, and even less reason to have Afton move to a new house purely to confuse us.
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching now lets see what I can say about what you've said. FNAF4's night gameplay is a nightmare of Mike's in the POV of some kid, it could be CC but since I don't think he was experimented on in that bunker anymore it's probably an experiment victim. The only way for Mike to have these dreams is if he went to Sister Location and had already been scooped which allows any excess remnant to be connected with him meaning it's possible this is how he had his dreams. Also Sister Locaiton happens after FNAF 1, MoltenMCI cannot work any other way plus Dittophobia, the story from Tales from the Pizzaplex #8 confirms SL is after 1. Rory was in the experiments for 10 years and considering the earliest the experiments started was 83 (which I don't believe) and the fact Ballora was still intact after this time means that the events of SL has not happened yet (nor are they possessed yet maybe as they don't move at all). This at the earliest places Dittophobia at 1993, when FNAF 1 occurs. So I think Mike's nightmares start after 1 and SL. I don't think Elizabeth is experimented on nor do I think she died before CC, she died after him and Charlie. I think after William discovered her possession he left the Funtimes and her abandoned for some time to commit the MCI of which he was able to do what he wanted from the start of his quest. He was able to control the spirits and break and mend souls, the power of the paranormal was his at last. Until he returned to melt the endos down for remnant to put into the funtimes when he started to do further testing to merge himself with the 5 children to create his immortal vessel for himself. Ok so let's get to MM. I think it's about an experiment victim because following a pattern we have the first of Afton's victims as Charlie, the first MCI victim Susie then logically the last one could be the first experiment victim who I think is Andrew. Let's get to why I don't think MM is about Afton. Later that night does not have to be after Charlie's death. Yes the rain and car is the same but later that night could just be in reference to something happening earlier that night, say a child's kidnapping. Plus the minigame is called Midnight Motorist so the minigame occurs at midnight. Why would Fredbear's be open that late? Plus William lives next door to the place why would he be driving all the back from Fredbear's if it's next door? (But that is a minor issue). The houses layout is completely different to the Afton house. In each of FNAF's minigames the layouts might not be completely accurate but they always resemble the layouts of their respective locations. This would be an exception if it is the Afton house. Let's get to the colour. William could be orange here that makes. sense. What doesn't make sense is as to why he would be in this context. Yellow to me atm represents Afton's friendly exterior, the one he puts on to hid himself, the one he puts on to gain the children's trust which works with Glitchbear and the Fredbear plush's dialogue. In this minigame he's returning home and is told to leave his son alone but he does not listen and demands that he enters the room then later declares that he would be sorry when the son returns. He is being a dead beat dad like he always is with his children, he is not hiding anything nor does he have to in this context. The rain, we don't know when it started to rain. It could've just stared so William kidnapping a kid would work unless he didn't use a springlock suit. Plus it rains in each of the secret screens in FNAF 6 and each animatronic arrives at different nights as Henry says in the game. So it raining on a different day works here as well. Tho it is hard to disprove what the rain would mean here I'll be honest. CC being the runaway makes no sense considering his character we see in 4, he would not even if he wasn't scared yet it just doesn't make sense for her character and where would he be running off to you know. Nor does it work if it's Mike. Where is he? Why would his brother lure him out? For what purpose? To see his grave, then why don't we see him at the grave? Also I think Charlie dying first has to happen for the story and William's and Henry's characters and relationship. "A wound first inflicted on me" you know. But those are my thoughts. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video, I definitely agree that bv was influenced by William in believing his fears were real by speaking through the fredbear plush, same with fnaf world/clock ending being canon and Cassidy being the player of fnaf world. However I do want to ask if you believe that bv is part of the nightmare chambers we see in dittophobia? Mainly I do and I think it’s like the reason why bv sees the fredbear plush in the sewers, as a flower, acting haunted, etc. bv couldn’t comprehend what’s reality or isn’t reality like Henry in the novels with the illusion discs. William made sure bv spent so much time in the nightmare chambers where he can’t go back to reality, allowing bv to be influenced by William in his surroundings. But anyways, another awesome video by sethxiety, and can’t wait to see more of your videos.
I said in the video that I don’t think he was in the observation stations as they were made via Afton’s inspiration of his experiences in 4 but the comment on why the fredbear plush appears as a flower is something I hadn’t thought of. Definitely interesting
@@Sethxiety ah, that’s cool I disagree on bv not being part of the experiment rooms but it is interesting to hear from your perspective. Thanks! One of my friends made the idea about the explanation for why the fredbear plush does the things he do while it still being William afton. Credits to tux for the explanation. Also I want to share for my idea on the reason why william wants to have influence over life and it have something to do with Charlie.
8:56 "Obviously it's not". Uhhh... Says who??? O_o It looks WAAAAAAY more like tufts of BROWN hair coming out of the suit than wires! Wires are basically never brown or not consistent in thickness! 🤦😑 It's anything BUT obvious what is being shown here! Ridiculously claiming something very much not known as being an obvious fact like this is where you lost me on this video. 🤷
Why am I only just now realizing that the music plays on one side of the headphones? This was not the case in editing I don't know why this happened for youtube lol
So I wanted to add a few things to the video which I either didn't include, thought of after the video's release, for clarity and even some issues with the theory that I myself have.
- For clarity Cassidy isn't leaving breadcrumbs for CC to reach the real Happiest Day, rather what we see in the logbook is her trying to get him to remember the events of his past so that they can use his memories to set him free along with the others. However, if the logbook conversation is meta then the convo could be a recreation of the plot of world while also telling the pieces to happiest day.
- For Cassidy helping Afton before the false happiest day is created allowing him to effortlessly control the spirts, he is able to manipulate Cassidy into putting the pieces together with the MCI. Why would she help her killer? Well with stories such as Coming Home with Susie not knowing she is died continuing to live her life at her house and Alone Forever having Travis not knowing how he died or that he was dead I think Cassidy doesn't remember either. All she remembers is that the yellow rabbit is or might be a friend as he is the only one who's willing to guide her. The happiest day only maintains that delusion.
- Ok now for an issue I have. If Cassidy wanted to help CC remember so that they can have the real Happiest Day then that would mean she is no longer under Afton's influence so then why would the puppet need to be the one to bring the children together for the Happiest Day if Cassidy could possibly do it herself? If the puppet is doing it then would that not mean that all the kids are under some form of influence until the puppet helps undo it with CC's memories? Or is it that after FNAF 6 the spirits remember but are still trapped in the metal prisons they reside in and now that they are all merged together the puppet can help the spirits move on?
I think this is a bit of a hole in the theory but would like you're comments on this point.
I can answer the issue you have.
Think of it like Micheal brooks who is under the influence of the yellow rabbit and isn’t against him yet he puts the pieces of his friends back together because he knows that something have gone wrong, and I don’t think that once they are put back together they can be free yet, as they don’t remember that they are dead hence you can’t free a dead soul that doesn’t think that they are dead.
Cassidy is doing the same with bv, making him remember the memories to help him, to try to put him back together along with the MCI kids, though she doesn’t want to free them but to reunite with them again.
Loved the video, good job!
I have to ESPECIALLY commend you for bringing awareness to “happiest day” actually being William’s twisted way to keep the spirits trapped.
I don’t blame anyone for thinking happiest day is just what we see on the surface, but the deeper context of it is really important!!
Thanks! Yeah he trapped them in a false
Happiest Day but in UCN they are able to have what it should’ve been for them
Well I do have one thing to add for the FNAF 4 plush
The only time the plush doesnt have pupils is when its not at the CC's house or the park
What do you think that means?
@@Sethxiety no clue Ive just never seen it mentioned before.
If the only time the plush has pupils is inside the house and the park it could mean...anything?
My main issue with this is that Glitchbear tells the Crying Child to "Rest" at the end, and I don't really understand why.
Yeah, that's weird to me as well. I just view that as manipulation. He thinks this is a good thing, he thinks this will help him but ultimately it doesn't
Holy crap it’s actually a Shattervictim video, cool.
Something you missed for Elizabeth dying prior to the MCI is that Circus Baby’s has a springlock suit, which was banned after the MCI.
I do wanna say just because that I believe the plush is just imaginary during the main minigames with William taking over in the final one. This coincides very well with something I’ll bring up later as well as the text color changing in the final minigame. Also, it makes the logbook happy, given the logbook implies the plush is an imaginary friend. The great thing here is that William is still behind the plush (the plush is connected to William), but it’s also an imaginary friend for BV that he can pour his agony into.
I don’t agree that Fnaf World is canon given the Fredbear Plush mentions Scott Cawthon. How I view Fnaf World is that it’s a representation of actual stuff happening, it’s a representation of William connecting pieces of BV to the MCI by recreating his fears (an animatronic “eating” someone and their body never being found), but it’s not literally happening in the way we see it in Fnaf World. It’s sort of like how in the logbook you have Cassidy and BV talking, but they aren’t LITERALLY talking through a book. It’s a representation of conversations do that happen between the two, it just didn’t actually happen that way.
Lastly I wanna call out the fact that William’s motivation in The Fourth Closet is basically the same as it is here. Henry puts a piece of himself into the Ella doll, William wants to figure out how that happened. This is what causes Baby to be created, and both cause him to kill the MCI and create Molten Freddy. Under Shattervictim/whatever you wanna call it, this motivation is extremely similar in the games with a new coat of paint. This time, BV poured his agony and stuff into HIS plush, and then died. William, wanting to figure out how that happened, tries to kidnap kids and recreate the fears that may have caused it (this is Circus Baby’s and Dittophobiac and it’s why William keeps the Fredbear Plush with him in the private room). This doesn’t get the result he wanted, however he does learn more about ghosts/possession, which causes him to commit the MCI. Unlike Dittophobia, where he tried to recreate the fear in a new child, here he just uses BV’s own fears, he uses what he already knows worked. Sure enough, it works, and later down the line he uses this to do Funtime stuff which results in Molten Freddy. Molten Freddy is his final goal: the MCI and BV put back together. See how similar these plots are? In both timeline, this is what sparks William. The context isn’t the same which creates all of the differences between the two, but William NEEDS that spark to get started in both.
But why is William doing all of this for his son? Once again, same reason he does it for Henry in the novels: he wants to learn how to replicate it in himself and become his own “immortal” creation.
I think that’s all from me for now, great video!
Ay yeah I agree with this. However I do think Charlie dies first in the games as well which starts his paranormal journey.
Also while world is kinda meta, the clock ending is canon imo. I do have an idea on how most of world can be canon itself but that will have to wait for now ;)
Also the springlock suit I knew about. It will be used in an Elizabeth’s death video
@@Sethxiety Charlie’s death whether before or after BV doesn’t seem too related to the whole BV back together plot (she joins that after she’s already puppet, and he kills her out of hatred for Henry), but it definitely seems to be when William learned that ghosts exist. Like, he kills Charlie, leaves, and then sees puppet acting up. He wasn’t there to see the puppet go to her body, so he has no idea how she possessed the puppet. That’s then why Elizabeth’s death is important, that’s when he learned HOW ghosts possess robots, not that ghosts are real.
So I agree!
God this is REALLY GOOD. In particular calling out that if William is glitchbear, the “you were made for one thing” makes so much more sense. I literally had to pause and just let that sit for a minute. I have different ideas about what happens to Crying Child between dying and happiest day, but I wanna cover it one day in a full video. Basically it’s just that he’s in the Fredbear plush in the bunker until sister location where MoltenMCI happens and Mike, CC, and Cassidy along with the other MCI kids are all in one place together and leave together. The the logbook and 3 happen. But the glitchbear William manipulation angle really is so good, I really want to make both narratives work together.
Ah I appreciate that. This is something I've had on my mind for months and it was good to get it to work together finally. Biggest issue was what was glitchbear referring to when I said “I wont let the same happen to you” until I realized he doesn't want him to possess an animatronic like the MCI.
But thanks for watching, glad you liked it
Haven't played the games yet, but I'm convinced that the MCI was happening leading up to Cassidy's death. Yeah, I'm stating that Cassidy is the crying child. So it's very possible that William moved Cassidy home to experiment on him and when Cassidy died he turned those experiments to Mike.
What I will say about this is that with information across the franchise, especially the logbook that Cassidy is not CC and is the 5th MCI kid
Are you restating Dual Process Theory's theory? I agree that this is a viable, satisfying option.
@@meirnevaehyes, they are. I personally highly disagree with that theory.
Its possible.but who is mike cassidy’s brother idk cause mike is william son meaning cassidy would be the c.c
Cassidy is confirmed to not be Crying Child, i Mean... Books, Games, Movie, you know, their theory is Very bad though It's satisfying, but sadly theories are not Made This way
I really like this video! I have two questions though: why does Chica say she was the first, and that she has seen everything in UCN, and what do you make of the grave order in Help Wanted 2?
First, thank you for watching!
1. Susie was the first of the MCI.
2. If it means anything it’s the order the spirits moved on. Puppet is last cause she is the last to move on. We even see this in frights as she is the one to take down Afton
Wait, I have a HUGE problem with this theory!!!! How can William Afton be in the sister location bunker, talking thru the walkie-talkie and spying on the CC using the cameras down there, when we literally SEE HIM IN THE RESTAURANT helping the guy get the Bonnie suit on in the night 3 mini game??? Please explain how on earth he can be in two places at once😅. Love the content tho! Ur so good at editing! ❤❤❤
In the video I said CC did not go through the experiments in the bunker. The experiment rooms were not a thing yet, he created them after CC's death, So he was only in the restaurant. And thanks it's nice to hear that about the editing.
@@Sethxiety okay I understand the bu let us after the death of CC, but my point still stands. How can afton be chatting to cc thru the bear when he’s putting on suits? Unless he’s a craaazy multitasker and doesn’t mind this random employee overhearing his one sided convo 😭😂 idk it’s just summ that’s always bugged me with afton as the plush
@@BurningSands_FGC It's not the best answer but I did give one in the video. Although another answer I have is that Fredbear plush just had a camera in them to spy on CC. William provoked his fears and wanted to see what would happen. CC's agony infected the plush and via that it was able to talk to him to project his fears to himself. But for the sake of consistency I'm going to stick with the answer in the video.
Fits nicely with the idea that FNAF 1 was for testing on guards
I'm your biggest fan dude, your theories really rocks
Thank you!! I appreciate that :)
This is a great video :)
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed
Good theory but William is not the final speaker mostly due to the text color being different color when the text color from night 1-5 as FFF57 but the final text as FFFFa0,and glitch bear is most likely to be the puppet and the final speaker because about fnaf world is about set up happiest day and glitch bear want us us to find clock and the puppet music box sing my grandfather's clock
Tbh it doesn’t help that dual process messes this all up (which I don’t even agree with them on the CC and Cassidy being the same person as the movie kinda implies otherwise and so does the Pic with the Puppet giving a Cake to a girl (which is probably Cassidy)) the way I like to think of it is that the Plush Fredbear is a small ai made by William to keep CC in check after experimenting on him and ontop of that, CC did see a Body in a Fredbear Suit (Via The Minigame after FNaF4 Night 4, there was hair in there as we see, meaning someone likely got Springlocked before the Bite of ‘83 which is the main reason Fredbears closed down.
Now as to How CC possesses Golden Freddy is a really tough question, giving we know he died from the Bite because he did at a hospital (we know because of a flatline) meaning he was likely stuffed into Fredbear likely after he died just for William to try some experiment.
I don't think he was experimented on in the bunker like Rory in tales was. I think William was testing around with ideas and he played around with them using his son, who probably already had a fear of the characters. Hence the camera in the Fredbear plush. Regardless of if William was talking to him before night 6 or only on night 6 I do think William provoked his fears even more and whatever he saw out of CC’s, inspired the experiments.
As for him possessing Golden Freddy. He just doesn't imo. He died in a hospital so his soul could not latch onto him. His soul did linger because it was shattered. World is essentially his soul being put back together and lingers at Freddy’s with his friends and the other MCI kids in William’s twisted version of happiest day.
@@Sethxiety that all makes sense.
i genuine think that the plush is charlie
when the plush is close to a *grand father clock* on fnaf 4
the yellow eyes also connects with security puppet on ffps
the plush clearly acts as paranormal
theres also the scene of "remember what you saw"
where the plush stops bv from getting close at fredbear, and then we see william afton helping a employee put the springbonnie costume
how is he the speaker when he can't hold the talkie talkie while helping a employee, and it can't be pre recorded messages because the plush clearly sees what cc is doing
(also, i don't think that MM is about andrew anymore, i think that its clearly about gabriel after pizza party showing a bedroom with thunderstorm sounds, and the mound being from susie's burried dog)
My head spins with all these theories. I suppose we dont know who cassidy is.
My head spins with all these theories. I suppose we dont know who cassidy is.
What if cassidy is mrs afton?
What if in later that night orange is henry and william afton will be sorry when he gets back.?
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I agree with most of the theory, however, i do not belive that GlitchBear is evil, i kinda belive on two options for glitchbear, being agony or being Charlie.
Fair. My thought process is that if William is the final speaker in 4 then he would also be glitchbear as they seem to be the same person whoever it is.
@Sethxiety After a month Thinking about It, i now do belive Glitchbear is evil
Awesome, new video
Thanks!
The puppet laying on the body wouldn't hide it, and did the puppet start there until the body rotted to dust or something?
I said she would've been discovered with the puppet over her. That would've been not too long after her death.
@@Sethxiety Didn't Afton just hide the bodies in the suits temporarily until he could find the time to bury them in a mass grave? The mound of dirt we saw in Midnight Motorist might have been a mass grave for all the kids William murdered, or at least the first five, six or seven or how many there is hypothesized to be the MCI. I'm just tired and my mind is just spurting out any number of possibilities. Night!
@Neku628 no the bodies were left in the suits. This is told in the movie and the newspapers of fnaf 1. The bodies were mostly likely discovered by Fazbear and well we know what they would do.
MM is most likely after Charlie’s death sk the MCI would not have happened yet
I’ll come back later to finish watching the video, 22:00.
np. Thanks for watching what you have so far :)
@@Sethxiety
You are the welcome! This is a helping thing for watching videos. Been doing it since 2018 ever since I watched that 10 hour long play through no commentary 100% Sonic World Adventure / Unleashed video.
Charlie dying first is a bold choice. Its a good theory but thats the outlier.
The fnaf 4 gameplay showing hospital equipment, means the gameplay HAS to be after the bite. Either cc in a coma, or Michael being experimented on (or just his guilt from killing his brother mstterih what you believe)
In sl, Elizabeth is killed on the first day of opening and is later expermented on.
While the fredbear plush along with the cameras of the fnaf 4, i dont believe Elizabeth died before cc. If Elizabeth died then baby and the rest were expermented on, we can assume at least a week passed before Michael is sent to the bunker. After he exits, he heads home to watch tv, this is seemingly his own house, meaning he is at least a adult/young adult and fnaf 1-2 support this with Michael being fired for tampering and foul oder, if these are both Michael then its almost confirmed that he is a adult.
Unless foxy bro isnt Michael then he would at least be a teen during the events of fnaf 4, highball 17.
Last to piece being midnight motorist. People saying its a replication of the book is bolicks. Midnight motorist internally is called 'later that night...' which means its later after some event that we know of. 'Coincidentally' in the same game, pizza sim, we are shown the death of charlie, which is originally shown to die by a man in a purple car, which also 'coincidentally' the same color of the car which is show in later that night.
People argue over the color of the character and why it isnt purple guy. Some say its so we can see the character while others say its because its not William. But that doesnt matter. What does matter is that the car is the same car that 'someone' ran away in after killing Charlie.
The kid of the orange guy runs away to either a unmarked grave, or some place called jrs.
The feet are probably some projection of golden freddy/fredbear, since its ranning and would kill anyone in a suit (counter to the idea later that night is willam afton is kidnapping)
Not to mention the footprints would have washed away if they were made before the rain
And assuming the runaway is mike, and mike isnt the one in the chair. Since as you mentioned cc is terrified of freddys and their are rumors that the animatronics come alive at night and stuffed people in suits(by kids btw i dont think they stuffed people)
This leaves alot of plotholes like jr not being a obvious bar? The unmarked grave could be Elizabeth and not cc, that being what cc saw and was afraid of. (Unlikely)
Or he saw Elizabeths death and that explains why fredbear has a mouth. (Unlikely and makes no sense on a timeline)
Either way all ove these clues add up to Charlie dying after cc, midnight motorist shows orange guy (afton) returning to one (maybe 2 being Elizabeth?) and that kid running to a unmarked grave. This kid would be Michael and the grave being ccs grave thus confirming cc died first.
SL is after FNAF1. Not before FNAF2. This is proven by MoltenMCI. It’s impossible for SL to be anywhere other than after 1. Michael _could_ still be Fritz Smith, but it’s not a hard and proven fact, and he is for sure Mike Schmidt. But he’s not a rotting purple man yet.
The biggest reason MM is most likely not about Afton is because the house and location are a completely different layout from the Afton house and neighborhood in 4. You might think that doesn’t matter, except it always was in literally every game prior to 6. Scott constantly repeated layouts to clarify locations to us. There is no reason he would change that in 6, and even less reason to have Afton move to a new house purely to confuse us.
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching now lets see what I can say about what you've said.
FNAF4's night gameplay is a nightmare of Mike's in the POV of some kid, it could be CC but since I don't think he was experimented on in that bunker anymore it's probably an experiment victim. The only way for Mike to have these dreams is if he went to Sister Location and had already been scooped which allows any excess remnant to be connected with him meaning it's possible this is how he had his dreams. Also Sister Locaiton happens after FNAF 1, MoltenMCI cannot work any other way plus Dittophobia, the story from Tales from the Pizzaplex #8 confirms SL is after 1.
Rory was in the experiments for 10 years and considering the earliest the experiments started was 83 (which I don't believe) and the fact Ballora was still intact after this time means that the events of SL has not happened yet (nor are they possessed yet maybe as they don't move at all). This at the earliest places Dittophobia at 1993, when FNAF 1 occurs. So I think Mike's nightmares start after 1 and SL.
I don't think Elizabeth is experimented on nor do I think she died before CC, she died after him and Charlie. I think after William discovered her possession he left the Funtimes and her abandoned for some time to commit the MCI of which he was able to do what he wanted from the start of his quest. He was able to control the spirits and break and mend souls, the power of the paranormal was his at last. Until he returned to melt the endos down for remnant to put into the funtimes when he started to do further testing to merge himself with the 5 children to create his immortal vessel for himself.
Ok so let's get to MM. I think it's about an experiment victim because following a pattern we have the first of Afton's victims as Charlie, the first MCI victim Susie then logically the last one could be the first experiment victim who I think is Andrew.
Let's get to why I don't think MM is about Afton. Later that night does not have to be after Charlie's death. Yes the rain and car is the same but later that night could just be in reference to something happening earlier that night, say a child's kidnapping. Plus the minigame is called Midnight Motorist so the minigame occurs at midnight. Why would Fredbear's be open that late? Plus William lives next door to the place why would he be driving all the back from Fredbear's if it's next door? (But that is a minor issue). The houses layout is completely different to the Afton house. In each of FNAF's minigames the layouts might not be completely accurate but they always resemble the layouts of their respective locations. This would be an exception if it is the Afton house.
Let's get to the colour. William could be orange here that makes. sense. What doesn't make sense is as to why he would be in this context. Yellow to me atm represents Afton's friendly exterior, the one he puts on to hid himself, the one he puts on to gain the children's trust which works with Glitchbear and the Fredbear plush's dialogue. In this minigame he's returning home and is told to leave his son alone but he does not listen and demands that he enters the room then later declares that he would be sorry when the son returns. He is being a dead beat dad like he always is with his children, he is not hiding anything nor does he have to in this context.
The rain, we don't know when it started to rain. It could've just stared so William kidnapping a kid would work unless he didn't use a springlock suit. Plus it rains in each of the secret screens in FNAF 6 and each animatronic arrives at different nights as Henry says in the game. So it raining on a different day works here as well. Tho it is hard to disprove what the rain would mean here I'll be honest.
CC being the runaway makes no sense considering his character we see in 4, he would not even if he wasn't scared yet it just doesn't make sense for her character and where would he be running off to you know. Nor does it work if it's Mike. Where is he? Why would his brother lure him out? For what purpose? To see his grave, then why don't we see him at the grave?
Also I think Charlie dying first has to happen for the story and William's and Henry's characters and relationship. "A wound first inflicted on me" you know. But those are my thoughts. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video, I definitely agree that bv was influenced by William in believing his fears were real by speaking through the fredbear plush, same with fnaf world/clock ending being canon and Cassidy being the player of fnaf world.
However I do want to ask if you believe that bv is part of the nightmare chambers we see in dittophobia? Mainly I do and I think it’s like the reason why bv sees the fredbear plush in the sewers, as a flower, acting haunted, etc. bv couldn’t comprehend what’s reality or isn’t reality like Henry in the novels with the illusion discs.
William made sure bv spent so much time in the nightmare chambers where he can’t go back to reality, allowing bv to be influenced by William in his surroundings. But anyways, another awesome video by sethxiety, and can’t wait to see more of your videos.
I said in the video that I don’t think he was in the observation stations as they were made via Afton’s inspiration of his experiences in 4 but the comment on why the fredbear plush appears as a flower is something I hadn’t thought of. Definitely interesting
@@Sethxiety ah, that’s cool I disagree on bv not being part of the experiment rooms but it is interesting to hear from your perspective.
Thanks! One of my friends made the idea about the explanation for why the fredbear plush does the things he do while it still being William afton. Credits to tux for the explanation.
Also I want to share for my idea on the reason why william wants to have influence over life and it have something to do with Charlie.
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8:56 "Obviously it's not". Uhhh... Says who??? O_o It looks WAAAAAAY more like tufts of BROWN hair coming out of the suit than wires! Wires are basically never brown or not consistent in thickness! 🤦😑 It's anything BUT obvious what is being shown here! Ridiculously claiming something very much not known as being an obvious fact like this is where you lost me on this video. 🤷
Whose body do you think it is then?
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