(Let me copy paste my comment from the stream here) Another thing to note is that Lefty's left eye is black whilst Molten Freddy's left eye is glowing. Lefty's eye could contain agony, and Molten Freddy's eye has remnant. A way to parallel each other. (Lefty's drawing has these dark blue/black specs surrounding him, that could indicate agony as well.)
In terms of the Candy Cadet story, I think of the story as more abstract, like not EVERY detail is meant to point to a lore-relevant point, and details like "that night" are used for set dressing within the context of a spooky ghost story rather than a literal retelling of events. This is a PHENOMENAL theory though, well done!
@@alguemai6553… how is the DCI Canon ethnicity in question that quite literally does happen We quite literally witnessed in save them the bodies of 5 kids all over the location
This is shockingly compelling. As your friendly neighborhood FNaF lore expert, I’ve always been bugged by the DCI, but… wow. I think this might be the explanation to where those spirits went.
Those spirits likely didn't go anywhere. Apart from creating new Agony, they did not have any close contact with any animatronics. Sometimes in this franchise, people just die. The DCI seems to be one of these cases. I do however agree that this Cadet story doesn't make sense using the traditional explanation.
Alternatively, the Kind Man AND the Burglar are both Afton. He invites them to the same house (freddy's killings and suit stuffing.) The Burglar comes and 'kills' the kids (disassembling them/Follow Me). The Kind Man makes the Single Funtime Coffin. The Knock at the Door is the ghost ambush at the end of Follow Me.
I wonder if this could also imply that William have two personality in which one of them is the bloodlust killer that slowly overtake his sanity Not everything could be relevant to lore though, maybe William was never kind and is just being deceptive.
“Knock on his door that night” Midnight Motorist is called “later that night” in the files referring to after Charlie was murdered. Maybe the knock is police telling him that his daughter has been murdered
this was, compelling. so much evidence. yet we never really thought about it. it's... after 5 years of being in this fandom, ive never been more certain and defending of a theory like this one (awesome video btw. i love how you explained it in a very effective and yet intriguing way)
It’s great, narratively. The Puppet, from embracing and gave life to the MCI kids, now being embraced by the DCI kids at the end. That’s a satisfying ending to me
Yeah, I can't speak to if it's what Scott intends or how well it fits with current FNAF continuity, but it is a cathartic end to the more emotionally resonant arc of FNAF that I greatly miss.
You convinced me but the only problem with this theory is the blood underneath the table in save them implying a secret 6th victim (not andrew) to the dci, which probably went to possess JJ because JJ is seen underneath the desk in your office.
A sixth bloodstain, implying a 6th victim. The body isn't there. The sixth child's soul is there, but not the body. One of the bloodstains is underneath the music box. Puppet moves in the minigames.
@Darkryft Yes, puppet is only possesed by Charlie. But the theory in the video suggests that Lefty, even though he's mainly possesed by Charlie, may also contain the souls or at least the agony of the 5 children from the DCI
I think lefty's voice lines can all be attributed to The Puppet being inside of him most easily. "There is room for one more" would be insanely good evidence if.. it weren't for the puppet being inside him already, meaning he's referring to the puppet. Occam's razor. And you saying his voice lines don't sound like a "robot following programming", remember that Lefty was created, aka programmed, to capture someone. That's why he speaks so calmly and reassuringly too. Overall, interesting theory.
Exactly. And the “shhh” is just referring to the original Lefty, because it originally did that upon killing Mike, shushing him and his work so that Charlotte doesn’t wake up. I imagine that was probably Henry’s intended purpose for it, but he either didn’t program it well, or it’s acting erratic with the puppet inside of it. Hence “behavior upon suit seal not guaranteed”.
Here the thing. How could you explain the different voices though? I looked it up and yes. Puppet and Lefty do NOT share the same VA. Why would Scott cast a separate VA for the Puppet? Seems a little suspicious doesn’t it?
@longfishy thats an irrelevant detail. it isnt about which character share an actor (that is a very normal thing for series to do) but rather about why the same character would use different actors. there are valid reasons for the same characters in different forms to have other actors, iirc vanny has a different actor than vanessa, which is likely to accentuate the difference in personality and the semi-possession that is going on. so that is a much better example to use, even if it still doesnt explain why Lefty and the puppet have a different voice if it is both the voice of the spirit of the puppet
I really like this theory, but I'm just a little confused on one aspect. I kind of assumed Lefty acting haunted was the result of the Puppet's presence within him, and that the Puppet would be inside Lefty and would be the reason he's acting up-- similar to how when Fetch was powered by the Andrew-possessed battery pack, the whole robot acted up. While you acknowledge that the Puppet is inside of Lefty, I do think this weakens the "five" argument, since there would be six souls inside of him during FFPS, and it does also weaken the "why is Lefty significant/spazzing out in FFPS" evidence. However, I still think this is a super compelling theory, and a lot of it makes a lot of sense-- and it's nice to have a potential place for the DCI in the timeline. (I guess I'd also have to ask if you think this can coexist with ToysDCI-- would Lefty be made out of the parts of the Toys in that case?)
I think the best way to explain this is the puppet is LITERALLY inside the lefty suit, like not the soul controlling the puppet, the puppet as a whole separate individual is inside it but not spiritually connected to it while the souls became bound to it
@@validark I agree to a certain extent especially with the 5 becoming 1 referring to Lefty *outside* of the Puppet, I think that aspect makes sense- the *animatronic* is possessed, AND puppet is possessed inside of it. I just think the evidence of Lefty’s “possession” indicating something *other* than the Puppet is a bit weak. Stuff like Lefty being hostile and bugging out on stage- outside of this theory, that could easily be explained by the Puppet being inside of him. That being said, the Lefty voice actor being different from Marionette’s is pretty compelling.
Charlie is contained, not a part of him. She's not remnant or agony in Lefty, she is still very much in the puppet and seperate. Charlie isn't included in the 5 for the MCI, her existence doesn't make MCI not '5' and neither does Crying Child/Dave. And so there's no reason to fit her in the DCI 5 either. As to you thinking it would be Charlie making Lefty act up, she doesn't make Puppet act up like that? Puppet seems perfectly held together because she's the most intact and conscious. He (security puppet) is mostly Charlie, rather than mostly AI like the others / enraged like Fredbear. Not only that but Lefty is designed to keep him passive and shut down. If he's inactive then Charlie is also mostly inactive. Those two things together make me feel it's unlikely that Charlie is making Lefty twitchy.
Another thing of note, in the insanity ending Henry says: "[...] trapped in prisons of my making [...]", which admittedly doesn't quite line up with Lefty since it's only one animatronic, but the following line, "[...] now set to new purpose [...]" (capturing the Puppet) definitely does
If we look at this from a different angle ,,Trapped in the prisons of my making" could be reffering to Lefty(DCI) AND Puppet , since we know Henry built the Puppet an it became a prison for Charlie´s soul. What do you think?
Given how you said how fast paced the candy cadet story was at the end what if the dci souls were in lefty like, a couple months/weeks after the murder itself im bringing this up due to: "come spend eternity inside with me" this gives a new meaning, since then lefty would've have the dci kids FOR LITERAL ETERNITY
Two things. 1. William pretending to be a kind man from the perspective of the animatronics IS a recurring theme in both the books and movies. 2. Foxy Go Go Go's version of the MCI does suggest they went all at once and could be found, and it's this version of events in the Party Room echoed by Into the Pit 3 times now. (Oh and DCI/STM could easily have 6 victims. The last body might be under that table...or in The Puppet's box...or stuffed in something)
While you could argue it was retconned (although I feel like "it was retconned" arguments are pretty hard to make), the newspapers in FNaF 1 describe the MCI as being children lured 1 by 1, with one duo, and with the movie showing something similar, I'd argue the 1 by 1 narrative is the correct one.
Then who is the Bulger? Henry? Listen if you want to say William pretend to be a kind guy and the animatronics believed him then you have to say who is the bad guy and I highly adoubt it because there is no prove that the children see William as the one in the game Includes that they say five which includes Cassidy and in the movie Cassidy didn't fall in the trick@@KageTermia
I believe the DCI all were set free during FNaF 3’s fire (reminder that the MCI survived because they were out in the real world as Molten Freddy and not confined to the Horror Attraction) while Lefty has Charlie and Cassidy inside of it which is why he has a golden eye, why Lefty was even chosen to be a bear in the first place, and why Lefty perfectly sits in Golden Freddy’s pose during the back alley scenes. Cassidy is in Lefty while Dave is in Molten Freddy. The reason why Lefty has a different voice actor than Charlie despite all the other Scrap Animatronics being consistent with their Voice Actor is because Charlie’s not speaking, Charlie is asleep because of the music box made inside of Lefty while Cassidy is the one in control shushing Charlie back to sleep. This is why Lefty’s lines in UCN don’t make sense characteristically for Charlie. Look at the juxtaposition between these two lines: “I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way." (Puppet) “Shhhh...I've been looking for you and now I will never let you go.” (Lefty) Theres also an interesting Q&A question and answer from Lena Hill (the VA for Lefty) that I want to show: “Elite_Gamer_126: Why does lefty sound so different from puppet? VoicesbyLena probably a question for Sir Scott ;)” The entire Q&A on Reddit is interesting because it talks about how Scott wanted something very specific for Lefty and how it took multiple attempts to get to that so if you want to read into that: www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/ahozqb/heya_im_lena_hill_voice_of_lefty_in_five_nights/?rdt=53743
To add on to this: -In a fnaf AR trailer we see a fredbear sprite recolored to look like lefty -Lefty works like a springlock suit -Under the assumption the rockstars were made with the og animatronics, Lefty could have been made with golden freddy -Lefty has a black eye at the same place Golden Freddy has a missing eye -Being associated with 5 could be because Cassidy is the 5th MCI kid
There is a little problem that we see golden Freddy in ucn ending extra that if Cassidy was in control lefty would get some abilities like golden Freddy for example making hallucinations or teleporting
@@APerson-g1k There's multiple iterations of characters in UCN so Golden Freddy showing up at the end of UCN doesn't invalidate the fact that Cassidy was in Lefty at some point. Plus, Lefty is a fusion of Puppet and Golden Freddy though so I wouldn't really place the fact that Lefty doesn't have Golden Freddy abilities as a problem. Also Molten Freddy 100% has some Golden Freddy kid inside of him but he doesn't have Golden Freddy abilities either.
This theory is so good and a easy 10/10. It doesn't have as much evidence as MoldenMCI but it is still pretty good. And I don't know if I completely believe it right now...but it is pretty convincing
I have never understood why the DCI bothers people so much. Why are people so insistent on the Toys just 'malfunctioning' when Phone Guy gives the same sort of bad excuses in FNAF 1 and we all agree those are bunk. People spent most of the FNAF 2 and 3 era argueing over if it was the MCI or not, then it was shafted for a bit, then people started saying it wasn't canon for some reason even though it's never been contradicted and is a pretty huge deal in FNAF 2. Also it only got the name DCI in like 2019-2020, prior to that it was either MCI-2 or Save Them Massacre)
@@julianbello8376specifically never brought up again after the MCI kids have been dragged back from the afterlife twice now, once from heaven(I hope) and once from hell
I found one more argument in office in fnaf 3, we can see the empty animatronic toy costumes inside a box but there is no endoskeltons. You made a good find !
omg! these theory is so good! I can't believe it wasn't thought of before! it makes so much sense! the smoking gun moment for me was Lefty's voice lines in UCN.
For this to work here's the order of the events : Follow Me Henry does the same thing as William in Follow me but with the kids of the DCI in Lefty Phone Dude collects Springtrap and the shells of the Toys and the Classics, now all without their spirits (except Puppet who's still very possessed and can be seen on roaming on a cam) Puppet escapes Fazbear Frights and gets trapped in Lefty
I have an idea to make this theory work with SAVE THEM We see only five bodies in it, but six bloodspots (the only one which isn't near a body is under a table) I think there was only five victims, but one of them was divided into two different animatronics (BB and JJ, as they are the least powerful of all toys, and the latter is found under a table) We already know the child in Mangle got to possess two different heads (as, just like Molten and Lefty's yellow eyes complete each other, the yellow eyes of the two Mangle heads do) so it wouldn't seem that weird for a child to possess two independent animatronics, when BB and JJ both end up underpowered compared to the others
10:10 Maybe its coming up but I hope you tie together the candy cadet story with the week before/edited recordings. Otherwise, MCI can still be the reason they edited the recordings. Only future employees would hear it and be none the wiser. Also, that edited recording in the book sounds like they wanna get rid of him haha
Amazing video, I actually really like this and want to believe it but there’s like 2 things holding me back from fully doing so Molten Freddy’s “knock knock” voice line and the fact Molten Freddy has the most remnant out of the fnaf 6 animatronics On that last one you could maybe argue that since it’s unused in 6 it doesn’t count but it’s also shown in official books so-
The repetition of five could just be a metaphorical or symbolical thing because charlie is portrayed as the protector of the mci Also, the sheer contrast between your video and tdreads' video is pretty funny
I LOVED THIS VIDEO! However I do have 1 burning question throughout the video. If Molten Freddy is supposed to have the most amount of remnant within him as a result of his blueprint, why isn't Lefty the one with the most amount of remnant if there's not just the 5 DCI kids but also Charlotte from the marionette, making 6 in total? Otherwise I have no complaints with this theory at all. I could also see that some things in Molten Freddy's blueprint not being canon since it was scrapped as well, just left in the game files. Honestly a total W theory that I think is borderline canon if not already canon. Great work Cryonide and TDreads!
William afton is not a child, so that makes three Then, the funtimes in Molton Freddy are three, ballora, Funtime Freddy, and Funtime foxy. Then circus baby 4 Then the lefty bot is just a bot, so, puppet is the only one left. 5 I haven’t made it fully through the vid, but wanted to put that out there! Love your vids
Regarding the theory mentioned at 4:53. We’re forgetting that the animatronics aren’t the only souls in the pizzeria when it burns. Micheal AND Henry are also there. I’m not sure how their presence could support or hinder this theory, but its odd that they weren’t at least mentioned.
I always assume the "fuse" part of LEFTE meant "fusing the puppet to LEFTE (so it is physically incapable of separating itself from LEFTE and escaping)" Also 15:48 you can damn well BET I can hear "Please deposit- please deposit- please deposit- you aRe AtTeMpTiNg tO tRiCk FREDDY-!"
This is actually a really cool theory! I'm not sure how literally to take Candy Cadet's story but it definitely has a problem with it being Henry and the MCI, even if the other details weren't important, the fact that it's a kind man who puts them all together in a coffin is what definitely makes it contradict what happened with the MCI and it definitely makes a lot of sense for it to be the DCI.
Something tdreads brought up that I thought was interesting (if not for this theory then in general discussion): why does Henry have a fully functional scooper at the fnaf 6 location?
What has five ghosts but ONLY four that attended a party? The mini games that run up to Happiest day. Fnaf 3 has five mini games in which you rescue a ghost crying in a back room. BB's air adventure, Mangle's quest, Chica's party, Stage 01 and Shadow Bonnie. The first four mini games gets you a party guest in happiest day. The happiest day mini game contains two ghosts at it's base; the puppet and Golden Freddy. So you can't rescue them from a mini game. You save four white ghosts and one pitch black ghost. The four white ghosts don the Freddy, Foxy, Chica and Bonnie masks. The inky black ghost rescued by RWQXFSC NEVER appears outside of the Shadow Bonnie mini game. Weird isn't it?
Reminder: The puppet and Golden Freddy are already at the party, so have no mini game required to acquire. I believe the RWQXFSC rescued ghost IS TOYSHK. The forgotten 7th victim of William Afton and his own son.
What if, HEAR ME OUT!, Henry actually regurally took in a set of orphan children or kids from the streets (than weren't in an orphanage duh..) and let them stay at freedys till the closing hour, with only him being there since he's the boss, he could have easily said to other employees to leave the closing shift to him or even he came earlier for the night shift and let everyone else leave, then William knew this was happening as William probably always had info since he worked there OR William was maybe even on the shift the same day. Then HENRY maybe actually WENT TO GET FOOD in how the Candy Cadets story goes, and went to order more batches of pizzas or even went by truck to a supplier, he probably trusted the kids to not mess anything up in the restaurant since he usually took them in (he also probably gave them free food and shit this was the 80's right?) and also HENRY POTENTIALLY locked the door (so none of them could get out until he came back with ACTUALL FOOD) BUT DURING HE'S ACQUIRE, William snuck in, seen that it's Locked knew kids were still inside, (maybe he spied or some shit) ACTUALLY BROKE IN LIKE A BERGULAR DOES and killed the children and also probably took something (Burglar), When HENRY came back to the pizza he found the children DEAD EVERYWHERE. Henry knowing he would face a TREMENDOUS Law suit decided to make an Animatronic (now how he did in One Night is wild, but like he did this for a leaving, could've easily took a animatronic he was already working on (original rockstar Freddy now turned LEFTY) and suited it for a new purpose). He cleaned everything up and also the case didn't ever get media coverage cause this were ORPHANS... like nobody knew about them, no mother was worried or some shit.. maybe a few locals noticed that the kids weren't on the streets but could've easily thought 'maybe they went to find a better life or chances in a different city'. Then Later or LEFTY came back to Henry.. the knock on the door.. What if Henry then took his time to understand what lefty is and understood that those orphans lived THROUGH HIM, THROUGH LEFTY. Maybe he then Upgraded him to also find the puppet and what better thing to lure the puppet then DEAD FUCKING CHILDREN , LIKE 5 of them in one Animatronic, Charlotte is having the time of her life, AND THEN SNATCH Lefty takes charlotte and returns to henry. Also this Trauma and Guilt is what made Henry took his GOD DAMN TIME with finding and stopping William, or that is releasing the children's souls. I only wouldn't know why lefty is murderous, this can still be cause you play as Mike in Pizza Sim, and maybe to Charlotte Mike looks like William so she command LEFTY to strike Mike down but only cause she want's to protect the children.
@Cryonide I Just realized that The Reason William might be Orange is because Candy Cadets Color Scheme has a setting where Purple and Orange are the only 2 Colors. Like when candy cadet is flipping through colors pause it in the one with purple, orange, pink. All the Colors of William throughout the series and the stories are partly about him
I'll admit that I was skeptical going into the start of the video but by the end, this *does* provide a very plausible and satisfying conclusion to the loose threads that were the DCI in the SAVE THEM minigame
5:10 actually i think the puppet/lefty being counted as one, baby, then funtime foxy, funtime freddy, and ballora inside of molten freddy counts as 5. scrap trap should not be counted, he is not a kid.
Well it doesn't make sense because simply molten has five children inside him the messing children expect Cassidy and Dave and Dave isn't one of William victims he is his son after all
also, in TD’a video you two talk about the mound having multiple bodies in it possibly, what if that is what Candy Cadet’s story with multiple bodies fused together is about somehow
I assumed the cadet stories were meant to showcase the reoccuring nature of the killings, first 5 kids into the funtimes, the funtimes into micheal, the second dead kid incident into whatever happened to them (probably the funtimes but idk) ect
"he only had one coffin" sounds a lot like Carnie lying around in the garage. If the Goldens were kept after Fredbear's closure, why couldn't have Henry kept his old Fall Fest characters?
The only problem I could spot in this theory is why would Henry trap those 5 little spirits in Lefty instead of letting them go. Wouldn't it make things more difficult for him? Unless the bodies were quickly hidden by Fazbear Entertainment, and Lefty was in FNaF2 all along - which we currently have no proof of. But, nonetheless, it is a very believable theory.
I also think the DCI happened because something very similar happened in the Into the pit story. Actually thinking about the original book story as FNAF 2 makes so much more sense with long way going to the room where Oswald found the kids. Also why William's agony monster as a monstrous since kicked out in the open rather than him appearing ghostly. Also stubble things like the description of the animatronics and Oswald's drawing fit more with the Toy an withered animatronics respectively. Now with this I really think the DCI did happen and what got Fnaf 2 shut down.
I like it. I'm just confused about how. Henry is called in after FNAF 2 shuts down. And what do they hide the dead bodies until Henry learns about remnant and souls? Presumably, the DCI didn't possess anything, so why are their souls still around if Lefty/Carnie is brought in after they died. I know there's the whole idea that souls don't move on until they find their bodies, but they were never missing technically. The rules on being "missing" are weird because, technically, Afton knows where the MCI Kids are, so they aren't missing from his pov.
The final proof to me why this theory is true is that we saw the end and conclusion of the MCI, we know they are in Molten Freddy, we know that they died in FNAF 6 and we saw their tombs in the ending, indicating their souls are free. But we never saw what happened to the DCI, and this is by far the best explanation to all of this
The problem with this new theory is the sewing and the single coffin I feel. Why would Fazbear entertainment design a spazzy POSSESSED animatronic to capture the puppet? Then the Sewing implies it’s not the full bodies so it can’t have been done to hide the bodies, because in order to fit you’d need a fraction of each of the kids put together meaning there’d be leftovers.
I think that a lot of us are forgetting that William could be the kind man AND the burglar. I mean, he's always had the two-faced thing going on. The innocent yellow rabbit persona used to befriend the children and the murderous purple/shadow man who betrays their trust. This troupe has become especially prominent lately when it comes to the movie. They animatronics always see him as their friend until the illusion is broken and they turn against him.
if you rhink about it if Lefty has the DCI in him then we would have one character to repersoent each fanf game up to that point. Motlen freddy with the MCI for fnaf 1, Lefty for fnaf 2, Scraptrap for fnaf 3, Michael for fnaf 4, and Scrapbaby for fnaf 5.
Does anyone have an explanation for lefty being associated with 5 souls if there’s a sixth in the puppet? I like what @beShadows said, that the music box keeps Charlie asleep. But the puppet is definitely in there. It seems a bit like a technicality to count Charlie as being “inside” the puppet when the puppet is literally inside lefty.
With how smart Henry Emily is, and I’m only four minutes and 44 seconds in. I always believe that Henry was the one that made the remnant because he was the one who is intelligent enough to create very high-end animatronics by himself.
This Theory solved my issue with the DCI, the only reason i didnt like it was because they didnt get a end, but this is perfect , Fnaf 6 having the Molten Souls of the MCI and the Fused Souls of the DCI along side the Afton and emily family brurning down in oneplace is such a perfect ending
Omg that makes so much sense, I never really understood why in one of lefty’s lines they don’t speak like the puppet, they want Afton to become a part of them, they say they won’t let afton go, Puppet isn’t like this she makes it abundantly clear she only is here to help either the kids or the crying child or Cassidy one of the three or maybe all, and that afton doesn’t matter anymore what he did is done she just is there to clean things up so to speak, but lefty expressly says they want to absorb afton. It makes so much more sense if someone other than the puppet is in there.
I was always interested in how remnant works, I always wondered if there might be splash back, like maybe if spring Bonnie wasn’t turned into spring trap he might still do some strange stuff like walk or talk, or if shed parts from the blob could induce animatronic pseudo life in something it is installed into, which made me wonder what might have happened to lefty when puppet escaped it. Now I wonder who’s controlling it now.
I used to think that the dci was just the mci kids appearing as a haunting kind of vision/apparition, and you could use that as an excuse, but I’m sure the kids would want to appear as their alive selves in most cases. Unless they’re trying to scare someone, maybe.
5:30 We know the fun times are haunted so there would still be more than 5 kids as M. Freddy would still be a combination of all of them except for baby
this makes you wonder if any interactions between the puppet and dead kids are actually meatphores for stuff happening inside lefty (aka with the dci kids instead of the mci kids)
In one of your older videos, the one about Midnight Motorist, I left a comment on how I doubted that Orange Man was Afton, because of a few technicalities and issues with the storytelling becoming unsatisfying. Since then, FLAF came out, and people pretty much started screaming "slam dunk" because of the Midnight Motor car having a Spring Bonnie accessorie. If anything about this Lefty theory is true, we have a giant impasse again. Because it is now implying Lefty might have either kidnapped a living kid from the Afton family; or we are saying that Afton hid a body or something in CC or Michael's Room. Or even that Michael knew Lefty early on. It might even mean that the DCI is so old, it predates the MCI, and Lefty is what CC sees that makes him afraid; which would be wildly interesting as it would give Henry a better reason to use Lefty then; but it makes order of events clearly messy. Midnight Motorist rears its ugly head again into being confusing. Funnily enough, regarding Candy Cadet; I left a comment on one of ID's Fantasy recent videos (the one about Candy Cadet) Rye Toast had recently brought attention to how the DCI is out of place, because it is an absurd change to M.O.; and it's not brought up again, we don't even know the victims. In association with ID's video, it got me thinking: - Candy Cadet tells of 3 stories; and there are 3 'murdery' events for William (MCI, DCI, Elizabeth's 'accident' that was an intentional death, just not for her) - All three different killings 'scientifically' test how the killing affects possession (inside suit, near suit; how violent the death has to be; if has to be from a person or an object, etc) - If the story about the keys is about the MCI, and the story about the snake is about Baby; then maybe the story about the orphans is about the DCI. And this part really makes me think that you really are on to something with Lefty... And so, once again, I think there's even more proof that Midnight Motorist *can't be* about William. If we really want to get loopie about the fact that FNAF 6 is "bringing the victims of 3 different events" together, we might also have to think that there are 3 minigames. While I don't really have pheasible arguments right now, and I'm just throwing this idea at a wall to see if sticks; there might be something to that: There's Midnight Motorist, Fruity Maze and Security Puppet; and we know for a *fact* that Fruity Maze is about the MCI. Which means that MM can be about either the DCI or Baby; or that Security Puppet is about the DCI or Baby; - If we consider SP is about the DCI; this would squarely give Charlie the motivation to come back just to try to stop the DCI; and fail. If we consider SP is about the Baby incident; that can give us a timeframe of reference of how far from each other the girls died, which couldn't be too far after another. - If we consider MM is about the DCI, this leaves only SP to be about Baby; If we consider MM is about the Baby Incident; whatever the family that is there that *isn't* the Aftons is either right next to the Bunker OR right next to an unmarked grave where William is hiding *all* of the bodies. While I do think this theory is really good, it's a real head scratcher. Is picking pieces of the puzzle that we haven't used yet, but I don't really think we have an answer as to where they go in just yet.
One thing I don’t think people pay attention to: it is fairly obvious to me who likely built which animatronics as they all kind of have a cohesive style. Henry’s defining build traits are the jaw design, look at the original characters and rockstars, as well as notably (and why I think he’s characterized as being so renowned) is his design. Henry invented the Endo 01 and 02, am making realistic, lifelike, cheap, and resource efficient designs that can have costumes switched out. If you went to a real life chuck e cheese or something you wouldn’t have robots that you can really replace the suit of, and you cant seem to be able to do this on animatronics built by 3rd parties like the toys. Henry however is never characterized as being a particularly advanced coder, merely an engineer. I think William is a very skilled coder and overall scientist, hence why he could create things like the illusion discs and scooper. We know but all overlook the fact that William has an entire company behind him, one with a personalized and high tech underground location that has technicians and people running the business long after Afton is gone. I don’t think William built any animatronics we see, he just isn’t characterized as being a builder. I think he oversaw and paid for the construction of the Funtimes, if he had any involvement in them. One last food for though idea: how could Henry know what the scooper is or does (I don’t think he’s seen it based off of how his supposed design looks) therefore he probably has been down to or has info from the bunker.
That makes a lot more sense. It always bugged me that Lefty was used to capture the puppet and only the puppet. Then why not just do the puppet instead of lefty I thought. This is a good reason as to why it was lefty brought here instead of the puppet alone.
Yeah that explains Lefty's Liability being too high.. Because the Puppet seems like one of the calmest souls out of the MCI and DCI it would be odd but if there were multiple souls in one vessel then it would make sense why their so erratic making their liability higher than the other rockstars who would probably be just as dangerous as Lefty but they aren't because they aren't possessed Also Lefty is moving all aggressively and never stops just like how they are underground but they are even more aggressive than the other scrap animatronics because the souls just won't stop moving. Also (Again) It's never explained who we're buying from in pizza simulator but everything points to Henry because he can somehow make an animatronic that you can just find in the back alley be purchasedable, which means he has some kinda control over Lefty, able to put lefty up for purchase for you as soon as possible and even still have Lefty available the day after you were supposed to salvage Lefty by buying them on Saturday.
This is honestly a really great theory, I think you guys are onto something, but there's a few things I think are worth noting I don't think Lefty is exactly possessed by the spirits within him. The whole luring and soothing thing is part of what Lefty was made for in the first place, trying to calm someone down as he talks about putting them inside him is in line with his programming (although with an eerie twist, which could be due to the presence of the spirits making him more erratic). For a moment I felt like there was a hole in the theory, being that it would require Henry knowing about possession, but then I remembered how the animatronics are so clearly haunted and how much cover up Fazbear Entertainment makes, so it kind of plays into the idea that they know but don't want it coming to light. Regardless, I think this theory might be it
(Let me copy paste my comment from the stream here)
Another thing to note is that Lefty's left eye is black whilst Molten Freddy's left eye is glowing.
Lefty's eye could contain agony, and Molten Freddy's eye has remnant. A way to parallel each other. (Lefty's drawing has these dark blue/black specs surrounding him, that could indicate agony as well.)
THAT PARALLEL IS SO GOOD TOO
@@Cryonide I KNOW RIGHT
In terms of the Candy Cadet story, I think of the story as more abstract, like not EVERY detail is meant to point to a lore-relevant point, and details like "that night" are used for set dressing within the context of a spooky ghost story rather than a literal retelling of events.
This is a PHENOMENAL theory though, well done!
This is something nobody ever mentions.
All roads lead to DCI, gentlemen
Dci should not be canon it makes no narrative sense
@@alguemai6553… how is the DCI Canon ethnicity in question that quite literally does happen
We quite literally witnessed in save them the bodies of 5 kids all over the location
@@alguemai6553 Tell that to Scott
@@Browhatisyoudoingwe saw them once, then never heard of them again. Ever. They died and fell off the age in the earth
@@julianbello8376 they're the children Oswald saves in the ITP game (I have no evidence this is cope)
This is shockingly compelling. As your friendly neighborhood FNaF lore expert, I’ve always been bugged by the DCI, but… wow. I think this might be the explanation to where those spirits went.
Those spirits likely didn't go anywhere. Apart from creating new Agony, they did not have any close contact with any animatronics.
Sometimes in this franchise, people just die. The DCI seems to be one of these cases. I do however agree that this Cadet story doesn't make sense using the traditional explanation.
14:47 Nah, Lefty’s just rapping.
Rap wasn’t very popular by lefty’s time but it is a funny thought.
@@SAMSeclipselivesit’s just a joke
@@hyphurr.rarelypostsifever1220 so is Minecraft.
even Eminem went silent when this dropped
god i missed that joke
Alternatively, the Kind Man AND the Burglar are both Afton. He invites them to the same house (freddy's killings and suit stuffing.)
The Burglar comes and 'kills' the kids (disassembling them/Follow Me).
The Kind Man makes the Single Funtime Coffin.
The Knock at the Door is the ghost ambush at the end of Follow Me.
Always thought of this, i think you're right
Well this wouldn't make of sense tbh I mean William didn't invite the missing children in his house and killed them in different days
@@APerson-g1k It's a metaphor. IE, not literal.
I wonder if this could also imply that William have two personality in which one of them is the bloodlust killer that slowly overtake his sanity
Not everything could be relevant to lore though, maybe William was never kind and is just being deceptive.
@@TrojanymousAnonithreat the spring bonnie suit is his green goblin mask
“Knock on his door that night” Midnight Motorist is called “later that night” in the files referring to after Charlie was murdered. Maybe the knock is police telling him that his daughter has been murdered
maybe it's just the tax man
this was, compelling. so much evidence. yet we never really thought about it.
it's... after 5 years of being in this fandom, ive never been more certain and defending of a theory like this one
(awesome video btw. i love how you explained it in a very effective and yet intriguing way)
It’s great, narratively. The Puppet, from embracing and gave life to the MCI kids, now being embraced by the DCI kids at the end. That’s a satisfying ending to me
Yeah, I can't speak to if it's what Scott intends or how well it fits with current FNAF continuity, but it is a cathartic end to the more emotionally resonant arc of FNAF that I greatly miss.
You convinced me but the only problem with this theory is the blood underneath the table in save them implying a secret 6th victim (not andrew) to the dci, which probably went to possess JJ because JJ is seen underneath the desk in your office.
A sixth bloodstain, implying a 6th victim. The body isn't there. The sixth child's soul is there, but not the body. One of the bloodstains is underneath the music box. Puppet moves in the minigames.
@Leindigamefan Isn't the puppet Henry's daughter though? Confirmed in the security puppet mini game and other sources?
@Darkryft Yes, puppet is only possesed by Charlie. But the theory in the video suggests that Lefty, even though he's mainly possesed by Charlie, may also contain the souls or at least the agony of the 5 children from the DCI
Foxy Go Go Go has 5 kids. And that William isn't wearing any kind of Springlock suit in that minigame
We are referring to save them not foxy go go go, foxy go go go is about the mci not the dci, save them is about the dci
I think lefty's voice lines can all be attributed to The Puppet being inside of him most easily. "There is room for one more" would be insanely good evidence if.. it weren't for the puppet being inside him already, meaning he's referring to the puppet. Occam's razor. And you saying his voice lines don't sound like a "robot following programming", remember that Lefty was created, aka programmed, to capture someone. That's why he speaks so calmly and reassuringly too. Overall, interesting theory.
Exactly. And the “shhh” is just referring to the original Lefty, because it originally did that upon killing Mike, shushing him and his work so that Charlotte doesn’t wake up. I imagine that was probably Henry’s intended purpose for it, but he either didn’t program it well, or it’s acting erratic with the puppet inside of it. Hence “behavior upon suit seal not guaranteed”.
Here the thing. How could you explain the different voices though? I looked it up and yes. Puppet and Lefty do NOT share the same VA. Why would Scott cast a separate VA for the Puppet? Seems a little suspicious doesn’t it?
"Fuse" could also be referring to fusing the LEFTE suit with the animatronic encapsulated inside to make sure they don't get out
@@sleepylmguy9968 Sure, until you realize that Gregory and Vanessa are voices by the same person.
@longfishy thats an irrelevant detail. it isnt about which character share an actor (that is a very normal thing for series to do) but rather about why the same character would use different actors.
there are valid reasons for the same characters in different forms to have other actors, iirc vanny has a different actor than vanessa, which is likely to accentuate the difference in personality and the semi-possession that is going on. so that is a much better example to use, even if it still doesnt explain why Lefty and the puppet have a different voice if it is both the voice of the spirit of the puppet
I really like this theory, but I'm just a little confused on one aspect. I kind of assumed Lefty acting haunted was the result of the Puppet's presence within him, and that the Puppet would be inside Lefty and would be the reason he's acting up-- similar to how when Fetch was powered by the Andrew-possessed battery pack, the whole robot acted up.
While you acknowledge that the Puppet is inside of Lefty, I do think this weakens the "five" argument, since there would be six souls inside of him during FFPS, and it does also weaken the "why is Lefty significant/spazzing out in FFPS" evidence. However, I still think this is a super compelling theory, and a lot of it makes a lot of sense-- and it's nice to have a potential place for the DCI in the timeline.
(I guess I'd also have to ask if you think this can coexist with ToysDCI-- would Lefty be made out of the parts of the Toys in that case?)
I think the best way to explain this is the puppet is LITERALLY inside the lefty suit, like not the soul controlling the puppet, the puppet as a whole separate individual is inside it but not spiritually connected to it while the souls became bound to it
Like you could physically remove the puppet from lefty and it would be fine, like taking your shoe off
@@validark I agree to a certain extent especially with the 5 becoming 1 referring to Lefty *outside* of the Puppet, I think that aspect makes sense- the *animatronic* is possessed, AND puppet is possessed inside of it. I just think the evidence of Lefty’s “possession” indicating something *other* than the Puppet is a bit weak. Stuff like Lefty being hostile and bugging out on stage- outside of this theory, that could easily be explained by the Puppet being inside of him. That being said, the Lefty voice actor being different from Marionette’s is pretty compelling.
How would the toy parts get out of the fazbear’s fright fire in fnaf3?
Charlie is contained, not a part of him. She's not remnant or agony in Lefty, she is still very much in the puppet and seperate.
Charlie isn't included in the 5 for the MCI, her existence doesn't make MCI not '5' and neither does Crying Child/Dave. And so there's no reason to fit her in the DCI 5 either.
As to you thinking it would be Charlie making Lefty act up, she doesn't make Puppet act up like that? Puppet seems perfectly held together because she's the most intact and conscious. He (security puppet) is mostly Charlie, rather than mostly AI like the others / enraged like Fredbear. Not only that but Lefty is designed to keep him passive and shut down. If he's inactive then Charlie is also mostly inactive. Those two things together make me feel it's unlikely that Charlie is making Lefty twitchy.
Another thing of note, in the insanity ending Henry says: "[...] trapped in prisons of my making [...]", which admittedly doesn't quite line up with Lefty since it's only one animatronic, but the following line, "[...] now set to new purpose [...]" (capturing the Puppet) definitely does
If we look at this from a different angle ,,Trapped in the prisons of my making" could be reffering to Lefty(DCI) AND Puppet , since we know Henry built the Puppet an it became a prison for Charlie´s soul.
What do you think?
@elenamiller1007 Could be
Given how you said how fast paced the candy cadet story was at the end
what if the dci souls were in lefty like, a couple months/weeks after the murder itself
im bringing this up due to:
"come spend eternity inside with me"
this gives a new meaning, since then lefty would've have the dci kids FOR LITERAL ETERNITY
16:28! Come spend eternity inside with MEH!😂
Two things.
1. William pretending to be a kind man from the perspective of the animatronics IS a recurring theme in both the books and movies.
2. Foxy Go Go Go's version of the MCI does suggest they went all at once and could be found, and it's this version of events in the Party Room echoed by Into the Pit 3 times now.
(Oh and DCI/STM could easily have 6 victims. The last body might be under that table...or in The Puppet's box...or stuffed in something)
I've always said that william must be the kind man
While you could argue it was retconned (although I feel like "it was retconned" arguments are pretty hard to make), the newspapers in FNaF 1 describe the MCI as being children lured 1 by 1, with one duo, and with the movie showing something similar, I'd argue the 1 by 1 narrative is the correct one.
@@bigpoggers6507 doesn't the movie show all five being lured at once?
Then who is the Bulger? Henry? Listen if you want to say William pretend to be a kind guy and the animatronics believed him then you have to say who is the bad guy and I highly adoubt it because there is no prove that the children see William as the one in the game Includes that they say five which includes Cassidy and in the movie Cassidy didn't fall in the trick@@KageTermia
@APerson-g1k i think the burglary is him losing access to his experiments (the animatronics that are possessed) and being put together as Multan MCI
I believe the DCI all were set free during FNaF 3’s fire (reminder that the MCI survived because they were out in the real world as Molten Freddy and not confined to the Horror Attraction) while Lefty has Charlie and Cassidy inside of it which is why he has a golden eye, why Lefty was even chosen to be a bear in the first place, and why Lefty perfectly sits in Golden Freddy’s pose during the back alley scenes. Cassidy is in Lefty while Dave is in Molten Freddy. The reason why Lefty has a different voice actor than Charlie despite all the other Scrap Animatronics being consistent with their Voice Actor is because Charlie’s not speaking, Charlie is asleep because of the music box made inside of Lefty while Cassidy is the one in control shushing Charlie back to sleep. This is why Lefty’s lines in UCN don’t make sense characteristically for Charlie. Look at the juxtaposition between these two lines:
“I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way." (Puppet)
“Shhhh...I've been looking for you and now I will never let you go.” (Lefty)
Theres also an interesting Q&A question and answer from Lena Hill (the VA for Lefty) that I want to show:
“Elite_Gamer_126:
Why does lefty sound so different from puppet?
VoicesbyLena
probably a question for Sir Scott ;)”
The entire Q&A on Reddit is interesting because it talks about how Scott wanted something very specific for Lefty and how it took multiple attempts to get to that so if you want to read into that:
www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/ahozqb/heya_im_lena_hill_voice_of_lefty_in_five_nights/?rdt=53743
But that’s not a Fredbear poster, that’s Rockstar Freddy, he has purple accessories.
To add on to this:
-In a fnaf AR trailer we see a fredbear sprite recolored to look like lefty
-Lefty works like a springlock suit
-Under the assumption the rockstars were made with the og animatronics, Lefty could have been made with golden freddy
-Lefty has a black eye at the same place Golden Freddy has a missing eye
-Being associated with 5 could be because Cassidy is the 5th MCI kid
@@subwaviaball You’re correct, my bad
There is a little problem that we see golden Freddy in ucn ending extra that if Cassidy was in control lefty would get some abilities like golden Freddy for example making hallucinations or teleporting
@@APerson-g1k There's multiple iterations of characters in UCN so Golden Freddy showing up at the end of UCN doesn't invalidate the fact that Cassidy was in Lefty at some point. Plus, Lefty is a fusion of Puppet and Golden Freddy though so I wouldn't really place the fact that Lefty doesn't have Golden Freddy abilities as a problem. Also Molten Freddy 100% has some Golden Freddy kid inside of him but he doesn't have Golden Freddy abilities either.
This theory is so good and a easy 10/10. It doesn't have as much evidence as MoldenMCI but it is still pretty good. And I don't know if I completely believe it right now...but it is pretty convincing
I have never understood why the DCI bothers people so much.
Why are people so insistent on the Toys just 'malfunctioning' when Phone Guy gives the same sort of bad excuses in FNAF 1 and we all agree those are bunk. People spent most of the FNAF 2 and 3 era argueing over if it was the MCI or not, then it was shafted for a bit, then people started saying it wasn't canon for some reason even though it's never been contradicted and is a pretty huge deal in FNAF 2. Also it only got the name DCI in like 2019-2020, prior to that it was either MCI-2 or Save Them Massacre)
Because it is never brought up again. It falls off the age of the world
@@julianbello8376specifically never brought up again after the MCI kids have been dragged back from the afterlife twice now, once from heaven(I hope) and once from hell
And why are you angry, at the end it is fun to theorize about the game regardless the topic
@@fazbearentertainment1374When did he say he was angry?
The best Fnaf theory I’ve heard in years
I found one more argument in office in fnaf 3, we can see the empty animatronic toy costumes inside a box but there is no endoskeltons. You made a good find !
I am shocked that this has not been brought up before, this actually seems to make so much sense
This theory is peak ngl, because it provides a parallel between the two bears you can salvage in FFPS.
omg! these theory is so good! I can't believe it wasn't thought of before! it makes so much sense! the smoking gun moment for me was Lefty's voice lines in UCN.
"bring them _toys_ and gladness." in the fnaf 2 pizzeria. with the _toy_ animatronics.
i'm sold
For this to work here's the order of the events :
Follow Me
Henry does the same thing as William in Follow me but with the kids of the DCI in Lefty
Phone Dude collects Springtrap and the shells of the Toys and the Classics, now all without their spirits (except Puppet who's still very possessed and can be seen on roaming on a cam)
Puppet escapes Fazbear Frights and gets trapped in Lefty
I have an idea to make this theory work with SAVE THEM
We see only five bodies in it, but six bloodspots (the only one which isn't near a body is under a table)
I think there was only five victims, but one of them was divided into two different animatronics (BB and JJ, as they are the least powerful of all toys, and the latter is found under a table)
We already know the child in Mangle got to possess two different heads (as, just like Molten and Lefty's yellow eyes complete each other, the yellow eyes of the two Mangle heads do) so it wouldn't seem that weird for a child to possess two independent animatronics, when BB and JJ both end up underpowered compared to the others
Room for one more implies there are multiple things inside. And it’s a fazbear frights story so the line has to be important!
10:10
Maybe its coming up but I hope you tie together the candy cadet story with the week before/edited recordings.
Otherwise, MCI can still be the reason they edited the recordings.
Only future employees would hear it and be none the wiser.
Also, that edited recording in the book sounds like they wanna get rid of him haha
Amazing video, I actually really like this and want to believe it but there’s like 2 things holding me back from fully doing so
Molten Freddy’s “knock knock” voice line and the fact Molten Freddy has the most remnant out of the fnaf 6 animatronics
On that last one you could maybe argue that since it’s unused in 6 it doesn’t count but it’s also shown in official books so-
Spread the gospel 🗣️🔥
Mashallah habibi
That was super freaking awesome! I really enjoyed this video!
Let's also not forget that the FFPS location has been open for months before Mike started working there!
Brilliant stuff, I can't believe we're still finding things in old FNAF games, so cool!!!
The repetition of five could just be a metaphorical or symbolical thing because charlie is portrayed as the protector of the mci
Also, the sheer contrast between your video and tdreads' video is pretty funny
They parallel each other, how poetic of them.
I LOVED THIS VIDEO! However I do have 1 burning question throughout the video. If Molten Freddy is supposed to have the most amount of remnant within him as a result of his blueprint, why isn't Lefty the one with the most amount of remnant if there's not just the 5 DCI kids but also Charlotte from the marionette, making 6 in total? Otherwise I have no complaints with this theory at all. I could also see that some things in Molten Freddy's blueprint not being canon since it was scrapped as well, just left in the game files.
Honestly a total W theory that I think is borderline canon if not already canon. Great work Cryonide and TDreads!
I saw the comment that says Lefty doesn't have remnant but agony.
7 kids if the DCI has 6 victims as indicated.
Lefty doesn't have Charlie remnant or agony because Charlie remnant and agony inside the puppet who is inside lefty
@@APerson-g1k That's true
Incredibly well done! This makes WAY too much sense to me.
LeftyDCI is the one and only truth! 🗣🔥
Well. You’ve done it. You’ve convinced me of Molten MCI
This theory is so good wtf, great job man 👍
and the star on his chest, stars have five sides
I was skeptical until you got to the voice lines. Good work.
William afton is not a child, so that makes three
Then, the funtimes in Molton Freddy are three, ballora, Funtime Freddy, and Funtime foxy.
Then circus baby 4
Then the lefty bot is just a bot, so, puppet is the only one left. 5
I haven’t made it fully through the vid, but wanted to put that out there! Love your vids
The fnaf community is in its DCI phase and I am totally eating it up
Regarding the theory mentioned at 4:53. We’re forgetting that the animatronics aren’t the only souls in the pizzeria when it burns. Micheal AND Henry are also there. I’m not sure how their presence could support or hinder this theory, but its odd that they weren’t at least mentioned.
its crazy how long it took people to come up with this despite the all mandatory clues being around for 6 years
I always assume the "fuse" part of LEFTE meant "fusing the puppet to LEFTE (so it is physically incapable of separating itself from LEFTE and escaping)"
Also 15:48 you can damn well BET I can hear "Please deposit- please deposit- please deposit- you aRe AtTeMpTiNg tO tRiCk FREDDY-!"
THE COFFIN IS THE BALLOON BOY SUIT CONFIRMED
this actually makes the dci make sense, and the amount of evidence to backit up is ridicoulous, good job!
Maybe the coffin is molten freddy? After all, i think they are multiple animatronic masks on his body 4:41
I doubted the DCI for so long, but this year alone has made huge waves in convincing me
This is actually a really cool theory! I'm not sure how literally to take Candy Cadet's story but it definitely has a problem with it being Henry and the MCI, even if the other details weren't important, the fact that it's a kind man who puts them all together in a coffin is what definitely makes it contradict what happened with the MCI and it definitely makes a lot of sense for it to be the DCI.
Something tdreads brought up that I thought was interesting (if not for this theory then in general discussion): why does Henry have a fully functional scooper at the fnaf 6 location?
What has five ghosts but ONLY four that attended a party? The mini games that run up to Happiest day. Fnaf 3 has five mini games in which you rescue a ghost crying in a back room. BB's air adventure, Mangle's quest, Chica's party, Stage 01 and Shadow Bonnie. The first four mini games gets you a party guest in happiest day. The happiest day mini game contains two ghosts at it's base; the puppet and Golden Freddy. So you can't rescue them from a mini game. You save four white ghosts and one pitch black ghost. The four white ghosts don the Freddy, Foxy, Chica and Bonnie masks. The inky black ghost rescued by RWQXFSC NEVER appears outside of the Shadow Bonnie mini game. Weird isn't it?
Reminder: The puppet and Golden Freddy are already at the party, so have no mini game required to acquire. I believe the RWQXFSC rescued ghost IS TOYSHK. The forgotten 7th victim of William Afton and his own son.
@@AloneTheorist crying child can’t be the toysnhk because William never killed him
i never thought about this, its a really good theory.
This is peak, everyone support this GO GO GO
What if, HEAR ME OUT!,
Henry actually regurally took in a set of orphan children or kids from the streets (than weren't in an orphanage duh..) and let them stay at freedys till the closing hour, with only him being there since he's the boss, he could have easily said to other employees to leave the closing shift to him or even he came earlier for the night shift and let everyone else leave, then William knew this was happening as William probably always had info since he worked there OR William was maybe even on the shift the same day.
Then HENRY maybe actually WENT TO GET FOOD in how the Candy Cadets story goes, and went to order more batches of pizzas or even went by truck to a supplier, he probably trusted the kids to not mess anything up in the restaurant since he usually took them in (he also probably gave them free food and shit this was the 80's right?) and also HENRY POTENTIALLY locked the door (so none of them could get out until he came back with ACTUALL FOOD) BUT DURING HE'S ACQUIRE, William snuck in, seen that it's Locked knew kids were still inside, (maybe he spied or some shit) ACTUALLY BROKE IN LIKE A BERGULAR DOES and killed the children and also probably took something (Burglar), When HENRY came back to the pizza he found the children DEAD EVERYWHERE.
Henry knowing he would face a TREMENDOUS Law suit decided to make an Animatronic (now how he did in One Night is wild, but like he did this for a leaving, could've easily took a animatronic he was already working on (original rockstar Freddy now turned LEFTY) and suited it for a new purpose). He cleaned everything up and also the case didn't ever get media coverage cause this were ORPHANS... like nobody knew about them, no mother was worried or some shit.. maybe a few locals noticed that the kids weren't on the streets but could've easily thought 'maybe they went to find a better life or chances in a different city'. Then Later or LEFTY came back to Henry.. the knock on the door..
What if Henry then took his time to understand what lefty is and understood that those orphans lived THROUGH HIM, THROUGH LEFTY. Maybe he then Upgraded him to also find the puppet and what better thing to lure the puppet then DEAD FUCKING CHILDREN , LIKE 5 of them in one Animatronic, Charlotte is having the time of her life, AND THEN SNATCH Lefty takes charlotte and returns to henry. Also this Trauma and Guilt is what made Henry took his GOD DAMN TIME with finding and stopping William, or that is releasing the children's souls.
I only wouldn't know why lefty is murderous, this can still be cause you play as Mike in Pizza Sim, and maybe to Charlotte Mike looks like William so she command LEFTY to strike Mike down but only cause she want's to protect the children.
@Cryonide I Just realized that The Reason William might be Orange is because Candy Cadets Color Scheme has a setting where Purple and Orange are the only 2 Colors. Like when candy cadet is flipping through colors pause it in the one with purple, orange, pink.
All the Colors of William throughout the series and the stories are partly about him
I'm not sure I'm entirely convinced yet, but I'm keeping an eye out for more hints on this!
Very interesting as always.
I'll admit that I was skeptical going into the start of the video but by the end, this *does* provide a very plausible and satisfying conclusion to the loose threads that were the DCI in the SAVE THEM minigame
Still believe CharlieFriends DCI* (*though that would make the name wrong on both counts, not children and also missing for a period)
5:10 actually i think the puppet/lefty being counted as one, baby, then funtime foxy, funtime freddy, and ballora inside of molten freddy counts as 5. scrap trap should not be counted, he is not a kid.
Well it doesn't make sense because simply molten has five children inside him the messing children expect Cassidy and Dave and Dave isn't one of William victims he is his son after all
William is described as jolly and fat like a clean shaved Santa Claus in the past. Atleast in the books apparently
This actually made me believe the DCI is supposed to be canon.
6:10 Don't worry Return to the pit fixes that problem.
also, in TD’a video you two talk about the mound having multiple bodies in it possibly, what if that is what Candy Cadet’s story with multiple bodies fused together is about somehow
"Stitched them together and buried the child" hmmm
I assumed the cadet stories were meant to showcase the reoccuring nature of the killings, first 5 kids into the funtimes, the funtimes into micheal, the second dead kid incident into whatever happened to them (probably the funtimes but idk) ect
"he only had one coffin" sounds a lot like Carnie lying around in the garage. If the Goldens were kept after Fredbear's closure, why couldn't have Henry kept his old Fall Fest characters?
That also makes the blob more of a blob, having way more remenant and agony inside him!
While it is a stretch, it’s nice to see Lefty and DCI getting relevance for theorizing.
The only problem I could spot in this theory is why would Henry trap those 5 little spirits in Lefty instead of letting them go. Wouldn't it make things more difficult for him? Unless the bodies were quickly hidden by Fazbear Entertainment, and Lefty was in FNaF2 all along - which we currently have no proof of.
But, nonetheless, it is a very believable theory.
11:25 my instinct says “Fuse” was intended to mean The Puppet gets fused to Lefty once inside, so the animatronic can’t escape
I also think the DCI happened because something very similar happened in the Into the pit story. Actually thinking about the original book story as FNAF 2 makes so much more sense with long way going to the room where Oswald found the kids. Also why William's agony monster as a monstrous since kicked out in the open rather than him appearing ghostly. Also stubble things like the description of the animatronics and Oswald's drawing fit more with the Toy an withered animatronics respectively. Now with this I really think the DCI did happen and what got Fnaf 2 shut down.
LeftyDCI is kinda compelling, especially with all the references to the number five.
I like it. I'm just confused about how. Henry is called in after FNAF 2 shuts down. And what do they hide the dead bodies until Henry learns about remnant and souls? Presumably, the DCI didn't possess anything, so why are their souls still around if Lefty/Carnie is brought in after they died.
I know there's the whole idea that souls don't move on until they find their bodies, but they were never missing technically. The rules on being "missing" are weird because, technically, Afton knows where the MCI Kids are, so they aren't missing from his pov.
One logistical plot hole: how can Henry afford one coffin but but somehow has the money to make an incredibly high tech robot
The final proof to me why this theory is true is that we saw the end and conclusion of the MCI, we know they are in Molten Freddy, we know that they died in FNAF 6 and we saw their tombs in the ending, indicating their souls are free. But we never saw what happened to the DCI, and this is by far the best explanation to all of this
All roads lead to the dci
The problem with this new theory is the sewing and the single coffin I feel. Why would Fazbear entertainment design a spazzy POSSESSED animatronic to capture the puppet? Then the Sewing implies it’s not the full bodies so it can’t have been done to hide the bodies, because in order to fit you’d need a fraction of each of the kids put together meaning there’d be leftovers.
Ash 'n' Sam better get on this lol
I think that a lot of us are forgetting that William could be the kind man AND the burglar. I mean, he's always had the two-faced thing going on. The innocent yellow rabbit persona used to befriend the children and the murderous purple/shadow man who betrays their trust. This troupe has become especially prominent lately when it comes to the movie. They animatronics always see him as their friend until the illusion is broken and they turn against him.
if you rhink about it if Lefty has the DCI in him then we would have one character to repersoent each fanf game up to that point. Motlen freddy with the MCI for fnaf 1, Lefty for fnaf 2, Scraptrap for fnaf 3, Michael for fnaf 4, and Scrapbaby for fnaf 5.
Does anyone have an explanation for lefty being associated with 5 souls if there’s a sixth in the puppet? I like what @beShadows said, that the music box keeps Charlie asleep. But the puppet is definitely in there. It seems a bit like a technicality to count Charlie as being “inside” the puppet when the puppet is literally inside lefty.
My main problem with this, is how on earth did 5 stitched bodies fit in lefti, along with the puppet
13:16 only a mild Fnaf fan would say shadow freddy
Calling Scott Cawthon *and* MatPat mild FNAF fans is devious work
Enlighten us oh wise one
@ that’s not what I meant
@ im not calling mat pat or Scott cawthon mild Fnaf fans
@ im saying that people who are mild Fnaf fans would say that lefty is a variation of shadow freddy
@@Mechaquackbecause he is
With how smart Henry Emily is, and I’m only four minutes and 44 seconds in. I always believe that Henry was the one that made the remnant because he was the one who is intelligent enough to create very high-end animatronics by himself.
This Theory solved my issue with the DCI, the only reason i didnt like it was because they didnt get a end, but this is perfect , Fnaf 6 having the Molten Souls of the MCI and the Fused Souls of the DCI along side the Afton and emily family brurning down in oneplace is such a perfect ending
Omg that makes so much sense, I never really understood why in one of lefty’s lines they don’t speak like the puppet, they want Afton to become a part of them, they say they won’t let afton go, Puppet isn’t like this she makes it abundantly clear she only is here to help either the kids or the crying child or Cassidy one of the three or maybe all, and that afton doesn’t matter anymore what he did is done she just is there to clean things up so to speak, but lefty expressly says they want to absorb afton. It makes so much more sense if someone other than the puppet is in there.
I was always interested in how remnant works, I always wondered if there might be splash back, like maybe if spring Bonnie wasn’t turned into spring trap he might still do some strange stuff like walk or talk, or if shed parts from the blob could induce animatronic pseudo life in something it is installed into, which made me wonder what might have happened to lefty when puppet escaped it. Now I wonder who’s controlling it now.
just one main problem because everything else to me is really convincing, why on earth would Henry stitch the bodies together and put them in lefty?
It’s metaphorical
I don’t think he would literally do that
People need to let my boy Funtime Freddy shine and not have some dead ahh kids take his spotlight in robot spaghetti
I used to think that the dci was just the mci kids appearing as a haunting kind of vision/apparition, and you could use that as an excuse, but I’m sure the kids would want to appear as their alive selves in most cases. Unless they’re trying to scare someone, maybe.
5:30 We know the fun times are haunted so there would still be more than 5 kids as M. Freddy would still be a combination of all of them except for baby
this makes you wonder if any interactions between the puppet and dead kids are actually meatphores for stuff happening inside lefty (aka with the dci kids instead of the mci kids)
In one of your older videos, the one about Midnight Motorist, I left a comment on how I doubted that Orange Man was Afton, because of a few technicalities and issues with the storytelling becoming unsatisfying.
Since then, FLAF came out, and people pretty much started screaming "slam dunk" because of the Midnight Motor car having a Spring Bonnie accessorie.
If anything about this Lefty theory is true, we have a giant impasse again. Because it is now implying Lefty might have either kidnapped a living kid from the Afton family; or we are saying that Afton hid a body or something in CC or Michael's Room. Or even that Michael knew Lefty early on. It might even mean that the DCI is so old, it predates the MCI, and Lefty is what CC sees that makes him afraid; which would be wildly interesting as it would give Henry a better reason to use Lefty then; but it makes order of events clearly messy. Midnight Motorist rears its ugly head again into being confusing.
Funnily enough, regarding Candy Cadet; I left a comment on one of ID's Fantasy recent videos (the one about Candy Cadet)
Rye Toast had recently brought attention to how the DCI is out of place, because it is an absurd change to M.O.; and it's not brought up again, we don't even know the victims. In association with ID's video, it got me thinking:
- Candy Cadet tells of 3 stories; and there are 3 'murdery' events for William (MCI, DCI, Elizabeth's 'accident' that was an intentional death, just not for her)
- All three different killings 'scientifically' test how the killing affects possession (inside suit, near suit; how violent the death has to be; if has to be from a person or an object, etc)
- If the story about the keys is about the MCI, and the story about the snake is about Baby; then maybe the story about the orphans is about the DCI.
And this part really makes me think that you really are on to something with Lefty... And so, once again, I think there's even more proof that Midnight Motorist *can't be* about William.
If we really want to get loopie about the fact that FNAF 6 is "bringing the victims of 3 different events" together, we might also have to think that there are 3 minigames.
While I don't really have pheasible arguments right now, and I'm just throwing this idea at a wall to see if sticks; there might be something to that: There's Midnight Motorist, Fruity Maze and Security Puppet; and we know for a *fact* that Fruity Maze is about the MCI.
Which means that MM can be about either the DCI or Baby; or that Security Puppet is about the DCI or Baby;
- If we consider SP is about the DCI; this would squarely give Charlie the motivation to come back just to try to stop the DCI; and fail. If we consider SP is about the Baby incident; that can give us a timeframe of reference of how far from each other the girls died, which couldn't be too far after another.
- If we consider MM is about the DCI, this leaves only SP to be about Baby; If we consider MM is about the Baby Incident; whatever the family that is there that *isn't* the Aftons is either right next to the Bunker OR right next to an unmarked grave where William is hiding *all* of the bodies.
While I do think this theory is really good, it's a real head scratcher. Is picking pieces of the puzzle that we haven't used yet, but I don't really think we have an answer as to where they go in just yet.
One thing I don’t think people pay attention to: it is fairly obvious to me who likely built which animatronics as they all kind of have a cohesive style.
Henry’s defining build traits are the jaw design, look at the original characters and rockstars, as well as notably (and why I think he’s characterized as being so renowned) is his design. Henry invented the Endo 01 and 02, am making realistic, lifelike, cheap, and resource efficient designs that can have costumes switched out. If you went to a real life chuck e cheese or something you wouldn’t have robots that you can really replace the suit of, and you cant seem to be able to do this on animatronics built by 3rd parties like the toys.
Henry however is never characterized as being a particularly advanced coder, merely an engineer. I think William is a very skilled coder and overall scientist, hence why he could create things like the illusion discs and scooper. We know but all overlook the fact that William has an entire company behind him, one with a personalized and high tech underground location that has technicians and people running the business long after Afton is gone. I don’t think William built any animatronics we see, he just isn’t characterized as being a builder. I think he oversaw and paid for the construction of the Funtimes, if he had any involvement in them.
One last food for though idea: how could Henry know what the scooper is or does (I don’t think he’s seen it based off of how his supposed design looks) therefore he probably has been down to or has info from the bunker.
That makes a lot more sense. It always bugged me that Lefty was used to capture the puppet and only the puppet. Then why not just do the puppet instead of lefty I thought. This is a good reason as to why it was lefty brought here instead of the puppet alone.
I am a firm beliver in lefty being carnie
Yeah that explains Lefty's Liability being too high..
Because the Puppet seems like one of the calmest souls out of the MCI and DCI it would be odd but if there were multiple souls in one vessel then it would make sense why their so erratic making their liability higher than the other rockstars who would probably be just as dangerous as Lefty but they aren't because they aren't possessed
Also Lefty is moving all aggressively and never stops just like how they are underground but they are even more aggressive than the other scrap animatronics because the souls just won't stop moving.
Also (Again) It's never explained who we're buying from in pizza simulator but everything points to Henry because he can somehow make an animatronic that you can just find in the back alley be purchasedable, which means he has some kinda control over Lefty, able to put lefty up for purchase for you as soon as possible and even still have Lefty available the day after you were supposed to salvage Lefty by buying them on Saturday.
This is honestly a really great theory, I think you guys are onto something, but there's a few things I think are worth noting
I don't think Lefty is exactly possessed by the spirits within him. The whole luring and soothing thing is part of what Lefty was made for in the first place, trying to calm someone down as he talks about putting them inside him is in line with his programming (although with an eerie twist, which could be due to the presence of the spirits making him more erratic).
For a moment I felt like there was a hole in the theory, being that it would require Henry knowing about possession, but then I remembered how the animatronics are so clearly haunted and how much cover up Fazbear Entertainment makes, so it kind of plays into the idea that they know but don't want it coming to light.
Regardless, I think this theory might be it