@@rikardekvall3433Yes to the first two; and agreed that Amir seems to lack the joy of music which Ron so effusively presents. I always his very well recorded sound clips even on my cheapie Sennheiser HD440.
I wanted to share my experiences with the Purifi drivers, I own a similar design and after +50h of listening the midrange kept holding back, it sounded thin and less deep then my other speakers. Once noticed I could not get used to the sound. This weekend I tried a more ´agressive´ break-in method by using a ´bass excursion´ track and let it play in a loop for 2 x 2h at high volume so the 3 drivers had to really work. I was not expecting much but midrange now is completely in line with my other speakers. I suppose normal listening level was just not enough to wake them up. Needless to say I´m very happy and wanted to share this 😊 Can´t comment on the sound of the Clarity 6.2 because my build has different crossover parts and tweeter. This was strictly about the midrange.
A production version of Purifi's spk 16 with a Risbo waveguide would have been great. But this is still more. And at that price. This is going to be a benchmark product and it's one normal people can save up for. People like me. I've been reading the purifi whitepapers and am using a purifi amplifier for a couple of years now. This is the state of the art. Wow.
@@larsrisbo2293 your journey at purifi to get to the root of distortions, understand their cause and solve them is a blessing to the hfi enthousiast. I thanked mr Putzeys at the Veldhoven show last year for his work and thank you now through this medium. Today I went to the local hifi Klubben and got a first impression of the Clarity 6.2. Waiting to find out what the purifi tweeter (and the spk 16) brings is tempting. But the clarity 6.2 is already so lightning fast, accurate and at the same time friendly to listen to, that It might already be everything I want. Deeply impressive is to me how the full range sound, naturalness and 3d immersiveness remaines complete, even at really low volume. Wow.
@@larsrisbo2293 Great to know, Lars! I've been looking forward to trying this new tweeter. :) Thanks again to you and the team for engineering such fine drivers for us to enjoy our music. I'm using the Purifi drivers in both my home and car audio systems and couldn't be happier. 👍
Great design, great tech...I hope there is a lot more to come from this brand. I'm really looking forward to something bigger than the 6.2, something to fill a large room.
it is impressive engineering, i am going to look out for my local hifi klubben to get these in. not my main speaker type that i am looking for next, but i can see the appeal. hope Radiant Acoustics expand they lineup of speakers, a smaller sealed(no passive radiators) with 5" woofers, maybe that is not possible since the tweeter waveguide would need to be made smaller.
You should see the price of purifi audio drivers, they are not cheap. 400 dollars for each driver, so 800 for just woofers, I would assume custom amt drivers which will run you about 200 - 400 dollars each so you are now looking at 1600 dollars for just drivers. Average margin for hardware companies is about 2.5x markup, so the fair cost of this speaker considering just cost of materials is 4k. So this is honestly fairly priced. Purifi drivers are honestly magic, you should look at their specs. Very revolutionary technology and advanced excursion surrounds to allow for equal elastic force from the surround through the entire excursion range. Not simple to do fea for, lots of bessel function mathematics. They are an advanced engineering company through and through. Advancement costs money.
@@suhbatshugan3721 Good value isn't necessarily the same as affordable, not that i blame Peter for doing this stuff, it's his passion. I am just wishing that the guy that built his empire selling cheap Cervin Vega speakers, would one day use his experience to bring affordable HiFi to the masses.. again.
Erin has a pair that is reviewing right now, out next week I believe. One would think Purifi speakers will swamp the market the way its going. Another company ( UK ) PDP has developed new Studio monitors using Purifi drivers matched up with the Bliesma T25s tweeter called the Mum 6 at roughly 3,500 eur + the Mum 8 ( 3 way ) Wait for it Buchardt is releasing soon the E50 using Purifi drivers inc the passive radiator at 3,950 eur, both of these companies sell direct, so pricing is landed to your door as Radiant Acoustics. We will be spoilt for choice, not so much affordable but at about $4,400 - $4,600 US delivered, that's a lot of speaker that will compete with much pricier offerings. Soon will have to make a decision, which way do I go ? help !
I've been using several of the Purifi drivers as well as the BlieSMa beryllium tweeters for several years now in both my high end home and car audio systems. I've been quite pleased with the results...enough so as to have finally ended my constant upgrade-itis tendencies. ;)
I can´t comment on the Neumann speakers but think these would perform better if your budget allows it 😊 the Neumann are active so you need also a good amp to drive these...
@@larrylevan3378 The advantage that the Neumann's have for that specific use are the variable bass/mid/high contour adjustments and integrated room-correction/DSP functionality, as well as being built tough with portability in mind. There are several FOH tour engineers that transport the Neumann's to each venue on the tour for consistent reference monitoring. And they also live in quite a few broadcast truck studios as well. I still have and love my OG Neumann KH120A in my home studio, but have designed larger custom active DIY monitors as my main monitors.
I’m not sure where this fits with in the Peter Lyngdorf ecosystem? It seems to be in between Steinway/Lyngdorf and Lyngdorf Audio (excluding the CUE-100). If any has a legitimate answer, please let me know! I hope more items and accessories will be available for this brand!
Hey, Radiant Acoustics/Nordic Hi-Fi is a seperate company within Peter Lyngdorf's umbrella of companies, not related to Lyngdorf Audio as such (besides of course Peter's involvement). As such, it doesn't really make sense to place this brand "between" his other companies... but what I can say is that of course, the Clarity 6.2 speakers is just the start :)
Interesting! However, I am waiting to see an active speaker that combines Purify’s technology with the Power DAC amplifier technology that Lars Risbo also invented. The question I have is: Why bother with all this perfection is you add cables, amp, pre-amp etc? Get the high-res digital signal directly to the speakers and have it processed by a small digital amp designed for the specific speaker.
These speakers fail in my book by having a very narrow vertical dispersion. In other words, you have to sit at the precise level to get the right treble level. You can't walk around in the room and experience good on-axis sound.
At this price, it's really not affordable to common folk I think, you can get better speakers craftsmanship and the performance I don't think that much difference, and I thought there is no curved design here, it just looks like another boring normal square like speakers...
@@isobutylquinoline when you price a small bookshelf at €4000+ it’s not really accessible to most of us. That said when you have drivers on 3 panels I don’t see how they could use curved sides. The only option would be to use an oval PR on the rear panel and free up the side panels so that they could be curved. I have seen 2 of the Purifi woofers. A small 4.5” one and a bigger 6” one. The surrounds immediately stand out as unique. Much of the other engineering like the shorting ring etc has been done before (as far back as the mid and late 80s). Purifi drivers are some of the most expensive available rivalling the ones from Accuton, AudioTechnology, ScanSpeak’s Elliptor series etc so I can’t afford them. Drivers from SEAS and more recently SB Acoustics etc get you 90% of the way there for 50% of the cost.
TBH, you haven't even heard the speakers yet and ALREADY you are claiming that "you think" there are better performing speakers for the money? All things being equal, can you explain how a curved design would always result in a loudspeaker with a better soundfield and better performance overall from a technical standpoint? A "high craftsmanship" curved cabinet is always much more complex to manufacture, and therefore is usually more costly as well. The "boring normal square like speaker" design of these RadiantAcoustics speakers achieve their intended design and performance goals without requiring a curved cabinet, so it is simply your personal preference, desire, and opinion to want a curved loudspeaker, which is likely not what many others may want. Large companies like RadiantAcoustics' parent company do extensive market research to learn what type of overall design is most popular and desirable and will generate the most sales and profit...as they ARE in business to make a profit, not just to "survive". When you operate your own business and have to pay for ALL of the many multitudes of associated operating costs to keep the doors open, you may get a clearer understanding as to why some things cost as much as they do! The cost of the product to the consumer is NOT just the cost of the raw materials and "parts" needed to create it. And the use of better materials, higher manufacturing tolerances & QC, and better engineering in order to achieve a very high level of performance will obviously cost more to create. Should these people do their work for free, live in a tent on the street, or lose money on each sale just so that you can have a lower price? The primary goal of ANY business is to be and remain PROFITABLE. Otherwise it cannot be sustained. They need to pay all of the company's bills & expenses, AND then also provide a safe home and put food on the table for their families. And TBF, there are not too many products in ANY category that are near or at the top tier of available performance which are affordable for everyone, or even to common folk. Of course, when YOU can design, manufacture, and sell a speaker that looks better (to you), and performs better as well, you are free to sell them at whatever price you desire. ;) But IMO it's quite laughable to make any type of judgement of a product that you haven't even heard or had the opportunity to actually directly compare to other speakers yet in the same price bracket. 🤷♂
you always need cheap speakers, 2 ways has its place. but you can make any 2 way main speaker into a three way if you add dsp crossover to a pair of subwoofers, but then the passive radiators or ports become a unnecessary compromise.
More garbage to the Mountain of small speakers. Do we not have enough of this kind of speakers?? Integrate whatever nordic audio have into dali speakers. Price No object and affordable do not mix, In what world is over 4000$ affordable for tiny speakers?
LOL, I wouldn't exactly label these as "garbage". You'd be a fool to do so. And, you could literally say the Same Thing about floor-standing Tower speakers, or studio monitors, or widgets, or random disgruntled commenters in a RUclips video comment section. 😛 Variety is the Spice Of Life, and continuous Competition in the marketplace ultimately brings us better performing products at a lower price point.
"Garbage" Says the man, who doesn't know that, even in DIY community (whom are specialists to not spend a hell lot of money for a speaker build), PuriFi drivers are considered to be the best ever made for low end application. Even Troels Gravesen has made several designs involving those drivers. This is on of the company to look after in the HiFi drivers community, along with Kartesian Acoustics. Quality and innovation is not free, so yeah, it costs a hell lot more than a basic China made driver, or a Dayton Audio or whatever, but see the step up in quality they bring.
@@bbfoto7248did not call the drivers garbage, just the rest of it. How many speakers just like this is made? Nothing New, nothing real innovative = just like the rest of the old school small speakers around the world
@@ThomasLlol you dont know shit, so keep running your mouth, it will not get you far. Innovative? Do you understand what that is? nothing New with this speaker, just the same old tec with new drivers, just like the rest of the fantastic innovative companys out there... I will keep my sb-m300, the last real innovative thing made...
No snake oil, just engineers with decades of experience - I like it :)
I always wounder how they make the snakeoil😂
Great to see engineers with a passion pushing the state of the art!
Impressive ,Thanks for this introductory video. Please send a demo to Erin or Amir...
Done ;)
Erin is great and knows his stuff, but to know how they sound, send a pair to Ron, at New Record Day in TX. Amir would just be clinical.
@@rikardekvall3433 Actually if I wanted to get an idea how they sound from someone on the internet I would check Z. 😎
@@rikardekvall3433Yes to the first two; and agreed that Amir seems to lack the joy of music which Ron so effusively presents. I always his very well recorded sound clips even on my cheapie Sennheiser HD440.
Watch for Erin's upcoming review soon. :)
I wanted to share my experiences with the Purifi drivers, I own a similar design and after +50h of listening the midrange kept holding back, it sounded thin and less deep then my other speakers. Once noticed I could not get used to the sound.
This weekend I tried a more ´agressive´ break-in method by using a ´bass excursion´ track and let it play in a loop for 2 x 2h at high volume so the 3 drivers had to really work.
I was not expecting much but midrange now is completely in line with my other speakers.
I suppose normal listening level was just not enough to wake them up.
Needless to say I´m very happy and wanted to share this 😊
Can´t comment on the sound of the Clarity 6.2 because my build has different crossover parts and tweeter.
This was strictly about the midrange.
Interesting. Can you share which ´bass excursion´ track did you use?
@@radkokosoTT Nothing special, it´s called "Bass Excursion (featuring techmaster p.e.b.)" it´s mostly bass without much midrange/treble 👍🏻
@@justasimplefox just purchased Clarity 6.2. So thanks for advice, will try it too and let you know.
@@radkokosoTT Ok, I´m curious 🙂
A production version of Purifi's spk 16 with a Risbo waveguide would have been great. But this is still more. And at that price. This is going to be a benchmark product and it's one normal people can save up for. People like me.
I've been reading the purifi whitepapers and am using a purifi amplifier for a couple of years now. This is the state of the art. Wow.
thanks! our tweeter releases soon so spk16 can be a reality not too far out
@@larsrisbo2293 your journey at purifi to get to the root of distortions, understand their cause and solve them is a blessing to the hfi enthousiast. I thanked mr Putzeys at the Veldhoven show last year for his work and thank you now through this medium. Today I went to the local hifi Klubben and got a first impression of the Clarity 6.2. Waiting to find out what the purifi tweeter (and the spk 16) brings is tempting. But the clarity 6.2 is already so lightning fast, accurate and at the same time friendly to listen to, that It might already be everything I want. Deeply impressive is to me how the full range sound, naturalness and 3d immersiveness remaines complete, even at really low volume. Wow.
@@larsrisbo2293
Great to know, Lars! I've been looking forward to trying this new tweeter. :)
Thanks again to you and the team for engineering such fine drivers for us to enjoy our music. I'm using the Purifi drivers in both my home and car audio systems and couldn't be happier. 👍
The March Audio speakers are similar in design/performance and have been available for years :)
Incredibly amazing ..... love it 😍
Great design, great tech...I hope there is a lot more to come from this brand. I'm really looking forward to something bigger than the 6.2, something to fill a large room.
What an amazing technology! Are you planning an active speaker with Purifi eigentakt amplifier?
Will there be a floorstanding version?
it is impressive engineering, i am going to look out for my local hifi klubben to get these in.
not my main speaker type that i am looking for next, but i can see the appeal.
hope Radiant Acoustics expand they lineup of speakers, a smaller sealed(no passive radiators) with 5" woofers, maybe that is not possible since the tweeter waveguide would need to be made smaller.
We hope you have a great experience at HiFi Klubben. While we can’t reveal anything yet, we aim to bring more exciting products in the future.
Any plans for the wood veneer with the white front? That would look sharp (and I’d buy one now).
It’s not currently in the pipeline, but thanks for the feedback! We’ll definitely look into it.
As a Dynaudio owner I find very few loudspeakers can remotely approach, much less surpass them, but this product looks like it could be the exception.
Why?
Wut?
It's says something about the current Hi-Fi segment when affordable is 4000 euro
You should see the price of purifi audio drivers, they are not cheap. 400 dollars for each driver, so 800 for just woofers, I would assume custom amt drivers which will run you about 200 - 400 dollars each so you are now looking at 1600 dollars for just drivers. Average margin for hardware companies is about 2.5x markup, so the fair cost of this speaker considering just cost of materials is 4k. So this is honestly fairly priced.
Purifi drivers are honestly magic, you should look at their specs. Very revolutionary technology and advanced excursion surrounds to allow for equal elastic force from the surround through the entire excursion range. Not simple to do fea for, lots of bessel function mathematics. They are an advanced engineering company through and through.
Advancement costs money.
@@suhbatshugan3721 Good value isn't necessarily the same as affordable, not that i blame Peter for doing this stuff, it's his passion.
I am just wishing that the guy that built his empire selling cheap Cervin Vega speakers, would one day use his experience to bring affordable HiFi to the masses.. again.
Interesting. When active and floor standing I’ll consider looking into them.
Those will be the Clarity 8.4a, but I hope your wallet is ready! ;)
Very nice…like them in White, will you at some point do a matching subwoofer enabling us to do a 2.2 configuration?
It's not currently in the pipeline, but we never say never. We aim to bring many more exciting products in the future.
@@RadiantAcoustics well Peter & Team if you need someone to dem them in the UK.....I'm your man!...
Would be interresting to hear thise
Erin has a pair that is reviewing right now, out next week I believe. One would think Purifi speakers will swamp the market the way its going. Another company ( UK ) PDP has developed new Studio monitors using Purifi drivers matched up with the Bliesma T25s tweeter called the Mum 6 at roughly 3,500 eur + the Mum 8 ( 3 way ) Wait for it Buchardt is releasing soon the E50 using Purifi drivers inc the passive radiator at 3,950 eur, both of these companies sell direct, so pricing is landed to your door as Radiant Acoustics. We will be spoilt for choice, not so much affordable but at about $4,400 - $4,600 US delivered, that's a lot of speaker that will compete with much pricier offerings. Soon will have to make a decision, which way do I go ? help !
I've been using several of the Purifi drivers as well as the BlieSMa beryllium tweeters for several years now in both my high end home and car audio systems. I've been quite pleased with the results...enough so as to have finally ended my constant upgrade-itis tendencies. ;)
@@bbfoto7248 Good job, I know the feeling.
would these work well as monitors for studio/dj?
I see no reason why not 😊
@@justasimplefox hmmm im torn between these and neumann kh150
I can´t comment on the Neumann speakers but think these would perform better if your budget allows it 😊 the Neumann are active so you need also a good amp to drive these...
@@justasimplefox i have a purifi amp
@@larrylevan3378
The advantage that the Neumann's have for that specific use are the variable bass/mid/high contour adjustments and integrated room-correction/DSP functionality, as well as being built tough with portability in mind. There are several FOH tour engineers that transport the Neumann's to each venue on the tour for consistent reference monitoring. And they also live in quite a few broadcast truck studios as well.
I still have and love my OG Neumann KH120A in my home studio, but have designed larger custom active DIY monitors as my main monitors.
Any reason you went with the AMT instead of the Purifi PT33 tweeter?
Amt is Superior, less weight faster and so on
our tweeter is first about to release now
@@larsrisbo2293Interesting, a dome tweeter?
@@justasimplefox yes. 33mm alu +/-70 deg beam with to 18kHz
Great, looking forward to this one 👍🏻 I now have Bliesma T34B
I’m not sure where this fits with in the Peter Lyngdorf ecosystem? It seems to be in between Steinway/Lyngdorf and Lyngdorf Audio (excluding the CUE-100). If any has a legitimate answer, please let me know! I hope more items and accessories will be available for this brand!
Hey,
Radiant Acoustics/Nordic Hi-Fi is a seperate company within Peter Lyngdorf's umbrella of companies, not related to Lyngdorf Audio as such (besides of course Peter's involvement). As such, it doesn't really make sense to place this brand "between" his other companies... but what I can say is that of course, the Clarity 6.2 speakers is just the start :)
Interesting! However, I am waiting to see an active speaker that combines Purify’s technology with the Power DAC amplifier technology that Lars Risbo also invented. The question I have is: Why bother with all this perfection is you add cables, amp, pre-amp etc? Get the high-res digital signal directly to the speakers and have it processed by a small digital amp designed for the specific speaker.
make it active and wisa please
He sounds like Giorgio Moroder.... But everybody calls him GIORGIO
OMG, I thought the exact same thing. I even heard the beat drop.😂
I look forward better product than Kef Ls50 meta in its price range. 4000 still very high price.
Try the GoldenEar BRX,,,,unbeatable price/performance !
Twitter is nicely secured from kids, but without covers I'm not convinced that woofer will survive.. my little one :/
These speakers fail in my book by having a very narrow vertical dispersion. In other words, you have to sit at the precise level to get the right treble level. You can't walk around in the room and experience good on-axis sound.
At this price, it's really not affordable to common folk I think, you can get better speakers craftsmanship and the performance I don't think that much difference, and I thought there is no curved design here, it just looks like another boring normal square like speakers...
You must become unburdened by what has been.
@@isobutylquinoline when you price a small bookshelf at €4000+ it’s not really accessible to most of us. That said when you have drivers on 3 panels I don’t see how they could use curved sides. The only option would be to use an oval PR on the rear panel and free up the side panels so that they could be curved.
I have seen 2 of the Purifi woofers. A small 4.5” one and a bigger 6” one. The surrounds immediately stand out as unique. Much of the other engineering like the shorting ring etc has been done before (as far back as the mid and late 80s). Purifi drivers are some of the most expensive available rivalling the ones from Accuton, AudioTechnology, ScanSpeak’s Elliptor series etc so I can’t afford them. Drivers from SEAS and more recently SB Acoustics etc get you 90% of the way there for 50% of the cost.
GoldenEar BRX,,,,better performance,,,better craftmanship,,,,better design ,,,,, better finish,,,,,half the price ;)
@@steffenjensen9350 I see, but it's not wooden curved design still...
TBH, you haven't even heard the speakers yet and ALREADY you are claiming that "you think" there are better performing speakers for the money?
All things being equal, can you explain how a curved design would always result in a loudspeaker with a better soundfield and better performance overall from a technical standpoint?
A "high craftsmanship" curved cabinet is always much more complex to manufacture, and therefore is usually more costly as well. The "boring normal square like speaker" design of these RadiantAcoustics speakers achieve their intended design and performance goals without requiring a curved cabinet, so it is simply your personal preference, desire, and opinion to want a curved loudspeaker, which is likely not what many others may want.
Large companies like RadiantAcoustics' parent company do extensive market research to learn what type of overall design is most popular and desirable and will generate the most sales and profit...as they ARE in business to make a profit, not just to "survive".
When you operate your own business and have to pay for ALL of the many multitudes of associated operating costs to keep the doors open, you may get a clearer understanding as to why some things cost as much as they do! The cost of the product to the consumer is NOT just the cost of the raw materials and "parts" needed to create it.
And the use of better materials, higher manufacturing tolerances & QC, and better engineering in order to achieve a very high level of performance will obviously cost more to create. Should these people do their work for free, live in a tent on the street, or lose money on each sale just so that you can have a lower price?
The primary goal of ANY business is to be and remain PROFITABLE. Otherwise it cannot be sustained. They need to pay all of the company's bills & expenses, AND then also provide a safe home and put food on the table for their families.
And TBF, there are not too many products in ANY category that are near or at the top tier of available performance which are affordable for everyone, or even to common folk.
Of course, when YOU can design, manufacture, and sell a speaker that looks better (to you), and performs better as well, you are free to sell them at whatever price you desire. ;)
But IMO it's quite laughable to make any type of judgement of a product that you haven't even heard or had the opportunity to actually directly compare to other speakers yet in the same price bracket. 🤷♂
I declare the end of 2-way systems.
you always need cheap speakers, 2 ways has its place.
but you can make any 2 way main speaker into a three way if you add dsp crossover to a pair of subwoofers, but then the passive radiators or ports become a unnecessary compromise.
More garbage to the Mountain of small speakers. Do we not have enough of this kind of speakers?? Integrate whatever nordic audio have into dali speakers. Price No object and affordable do not mix, In what world is over 4000$ affordable for tiny speakers?
LOL, I wouldn't exactly label these as "garbage". You'd be a fool to do so. And, you could literally say the Same Thing about floor-standing Tower speakers, or studio monitors, or widgets, or random disgruntled commenters in a RUclips video comment section. 😛
Variety is the Spice Of Life, and continuous Competition in the marketplace ultimately brings us better performing products at a lower price point.
"Garbage"
Says the man, who doesn't know that, even in DIY community (whom are specialists to not spend a hell lot of money for a speaker build), PuriFi drivers are considered to be the best ever made for low end application.
Even Troels Gravesen has made several designs involving those drivers.
This is on of the company to look after in the HiFi drivers community, along with Kartesian Acoustics.
Quality and innovation is not free, so yeah, it costs a hell lot more than a basic China made driver, or a Dayton Audio or whatever, but see the step up in quality they bring.
@@bbfoto7248did not call the drivers garbage, just the rest of it. How many speakers just like this is made? Nothing New, nothing real innovative = just like the rest of the old school small speakers around the world
@@ThomasLlol you dont know shit, so keep running your mouth, it will not get you far. Innovative? Do you understand what that is? nothing New with this speaker, just the same old tec with new drivers, just like the rest of the fantastic innovative companys out there... I will keep my sb-m300, the last real innovative thing made...
@@ThomasLyou dont know what innovation is, sb-m300 ftw