Hyperloop TT vs. Virgin: The Race to Make Musk’s Moonshot a Reality - BUSTED!
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I love how the capsule is aerodynamic so it can travel through a vacuum with greater efficiency.
Yes, a hemisphere would be a much better shape
My thoughts exactly.
No, in hyperloops vacum there are hyperflies that stick to the front of the hyperbus, so that shape is a must have!
You can never have a complete vacuum
@@bobby8012
Yes, there will always be a little dirt in there. Why else do you think they sell vacuum cleaners.
BTW: In a tightly fitting tube, that shape is wrong to be streamlined. That shape is close to correct for running on a flat surface.
If Thunderf00t was a real scientist he’d understand the importance of LED lights for science
🤣
Yes. He dosnt under stand how the lights help regulate speeding padded drivers by turning one kill mode cuting the car i mean pod in half
Gamer lights are beyond his comprehension. The science is next gen.
You mean like the ones on the Solar Freaking Roadways?
I know right? The RGB ram on my desktop gives me easily +10fps, now, imagine how much power a led strip that long gives the pod
They want to hire 3 engineer interns, and 20 marketing personnel, that basically says it all :)
EXCELLENT observation!
You're using the word "hire" very loosely.
@@amphiumaiii7058 You're using the word "loosely" very loosley.
you forgot the quotation marks round "hire".
I despise marketing with a burning passion
Hyperloop is the most succesfull CGI-company to date!
Your puns are getting out of control, never stop. Never.
Hey! Hey! Wait till Elon's new company!
Pretty sure NASA has them beat
Think of the hyperloop as like a wormhole: you throw money into it, and it's gone so fast you never see it again.
It gets transported to Elon Musk, faster than the speed of light.
😂
It's a boondoggle.
Sounds very futuristic and promising. Where can I buy stocks?
@@hobbypsychologist6444 There's actually a really good deal for that. You can work for the company for stock options!
They achieved one thing: Making the world's largest cigar cutter 🤣
Finally, I can get my circumcision
But we have to admit that building a vacuum valve this big is in fact impressive.
@@marvin1432 I mean we're assuming it holds a vacuum...
@@marvin1432 so far they have a big steel door moving. I would like to see if it holds a vacuum
Lmao!🤣🤣
PR guy: “we literally invented vibranium”
Materials engineers: “um what”
More like "unobtanium"...
He’s got it right, it’s safe like a rail gun, cheap like the Concorde, and fast like an air hockey table.
Elon is a genius!
Not to mention real like Santa.
And a good idea like investing in Elon Musk projects.
When Elon Musk says the hyperloop is like "worm holes" he means they are literally like the holes that worms make in your backyard.
When he said that, he meant that they are like black holes, sucking up public funds and people's brain matter.
@@cslpchr
I am pretty sure they sucked their own brain matter out before hand, to believe in it.
The only thing they know it vacuums really well is the money out of bank accounts. So far, the Hyperpoop has vacuumed tons of money.
A worm hole for investor's money :D
No, worms are actually important.
I watched a guy get funding by demonstrating a new fluid that would speed up the cleanup of oil spills. He showed, to just as intelligent folks, some used motor oil poured out in a pan of water and put in his agent X in the middle. The oil dispersed to the edges of the pan. Everyone was impressed and asked where to send their money. Goodness, this was a grade nine science lab using dish detergent !! Thank you Thunderf00t for pointing out just how crazy people are.
It's a good thing Los Angeles is so seismiclly stable!
Hahahahaha
Even if it wasnt seismiclly stable, they could just put the hyperloop in a larger vaccum tube and hover it with rockets!
@@turkeykillerex9509 Not just any rockets. You got to mention SpaceX rockets.
Damage done in an earthquake typically occurs on the surface. It doesn't happen underground. It's analogous to submarines not being affected by storms.
@@SolidAir54321 So the vibration and shearing of dissimilar geology at varying depths and regions the tunnel may pass through would have no effect on that metal can under pressure..?
All those highly paid managers....They know they won't make it happen. But until the bubble pops they take home good salaries.
That's basically the whole idea behind it. Modern day snake oil sales men...
@@dxb8086 You have to admit, its a great idea. Sure, you need a certain lack of ethics and sure, you do run the remote chance you get caught as a con artist but when done right, it's pretty much free money. People want to be conned. And not just joe blow... politicians and investors too. There is a reason governements build solar roadways and peopel buy free energy devices and homeopathy is booming and healing chrystals are a sure sale. People are stupid. P.T. Barnum said 'there is a sucker born every minute'. I say P.T. Barnum severely underestimated the amount of suckers.
They can't be held liable for the engineering failing if all their engineers are crowdsourced internships! These guys are legal geniuses. This thing is going to fold like tissue paper and they know it!
Remember, you can't spell Hyperloop without the word "Hype."
You've got the job! Stock options for you!
Don't forget "loo"
@@inybisinsulate and er, and p
Oh I see what you did there 😄
and "Loo"
"It's amazing! It's astounding! Travel the country at 700 MPH!!! Don't believe it? Just look at this wonderful CGI and these random components we built."
It’s really great the way it easily zips around in that CGI world. I do computer animation, so I know you have absolutely no physics within the virtual workspace, so you have to add any physics that you desire, or not.
Basically, you can make the physic do whatever you need it to do, so it is absolutely NOT an analog for the real world where the physics are actually LAWS that you can’t change. I don’t think the average person realizes this.
They think if you can do it in the computer, it will work in the real world. If they’re that uneducated and ignorant, they have to believe that everything they see in Marvel movies can really happen?
Wow that's so awesome! I honestly didn't believe it until I saw the hyperlook video.
Pah! CGI.. Space 1999 had a working hyper loop linking parts of moon base alpha in 1975.. :)
@@RoarOfWolverine Wrong! Computers are in the real world, therefor anything made on a computer is instantly real!
Checkmate athiests, ha, get wrecked with facts and logic!
(A joke, which I am specifying because Poe's Law is very much real)
Also LA has subways system already , its just the people tend to forget that , even when cheapest ticket is only 30 cents , for senior citizens and disabled people .
So having LA as an example for some more tunnels is stupid .
I'm constantly amazed that these things are supposedly being designed to run in a vacuum but they always look super streamlined and polished. Presumably more of an artist's visualisation of something fast than anything actually produced by engineers.
there is still air there and if it will travelling at 800 mph or whatever, that'll matter.
@@tanszism There's never a perfect vacuum, not even in space, but at the level of vacuum they're claiming the residual air would be negligible at that speed.
@@DaveKahn at the level of vacuum they want to run it at, air would build up infront of the train at a level that is significant. There was a bunch of legit research done on the issue. Thats why they design it to be aerodynamic. It still wont work, but hey, it looks fucking cool.
@@bipolarminddroppings You may well be correct, I don't have the fluid mechanics chops to do the calculations myself.
And super streamlined does not always mean less drag. Aerodynamics are complicated and sometimes blunt or irregular shapes can actually reduce drag via effects such as shockwave, vortex disturbances, spiral prevention and many other reasons.
But you are right also in that the hyperloop should be just a flat cylinder as it can disregard drag.
Damn, they made the vault door from Fallout a real thing.
Lol
It's worth noting that the Channel Tunnel is actually three tunnels right next to each other. The service tunnel for the channel tracks is 4ft wider than the "Loop". The main tunnels could easily fit 4 loops inside of them.
yet they were still more digging then Musk did
And don't forget the tunnels that they made up to the side to just jam all the equipment into when they were done
yeah other thing is you can't spell hyper loop without hype but you can't spell loopy without loop.
But they were digging from both ends, so only dug half the length in that time. Where they met in the middle, one of the boring machines is left in the sea floor.
I mean if you cut off the safety tunnel because it is not anything possible here.
“I’m a CONMAN, or maybe I’m a god? Zooming ‘round the planet in my hyperlooping pod!”
That's the first and last thing that comes to mind, whenever i hear "Musk".
@@HerrHoppenstedt Elon Musk & Tesla have been repeatedly asked to add a tone generator on their electric cars so that the blind can hear them before attempting to cross the street. The Ford Motor Company is decent enough to add said tone generators, but not Tesla...
This is what I first think up when I hear Tesla or Elon Musk mentioned...
I think of Musk as an amazingly effective salesman who believes himself to be an engineering genius, but clearly isn't.
Can someone link the clip, I can't find where it's from.
God fucking damnit I just got that outta my head.
I love how the hyperloop train mock-up is made super aerodynamic, despite supposedly being made to run in a vacuum.
A better proposal might be to decrease air pressure in the tube not to vacuum levels. Instead just low atmosphere
You can't reach perfect vacuum
@@KManAbout Any difference in air pressure between environment and vehicle requires a pressurized vessel that must be engineered to at least airliner standard. That mock-up is a con job.
"We've built a valve!"
Space Power Facility: "Hold my door handle."
Nice to see you here! Are you planning on making more videos at some point? I miss that content
@@gmansplit Yes, I will be making more.
@@CoolHardLogic Awesome. I look forward to them
@@CoolHardLogic This is a very encouraging comment. I like your comprehensive way of debunking stupid ideas!
Over the years these marketers have spent yammering about empty sewer pipes, an actual, functioning MagLev could have been built between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. The entire 4-mile Las Vegas Monorail line was built in just over two years. Sure, it had some problems but it EXISTS.
Hey, my father got us all reservations on the Pan Am lunar shuttle back in 1964, and I'm sure we'll still get that flight!
Should have gone with TWA instead.
You lucky duck
Surely you can't be serious ?
@@edmundscycles1 I am serious, but don't call me surely
@@drockjr a hyperloop ? But what is it ?
Just got the perfect ad on this video.... right after musk said "I'd probably advocate ... uhm wheels" the very next second an ad for hankook tires starts
You know it's a cult when after he says "wheels" people start cheering like it was something great.
When he described the entrances as wormholes, I couldn't help but think he was talking about the pipes from Mario Bros.
"But what if the dinosaurs weren't all destroyed? What if the impact of that meteorite created a parallel dimension, where the dinosaurs continue to thrive and evolve into intelligent, vicious, aggressive beings, just like us? And, hey! What if they found a way back?"
Elon Musk, fails so bad he makes the Mario Bros. movie look like a work of genius by comparison.
In Slovakia there were talks about how we're gonna get hyperloop around 2016 or something. The running joke was that it wasn't a HyperLoop, but a "HyperLup" which in translation would be "HyperCashGrab". Let's just say currently we have busses where sometimes buttons to open doors doesn't work so you have to walk few hundred meters back to your stop.
Damn, dont know what language you speak there in slovakia but consider yourself lucky, not every country is going to have such a easier joke.
Is Lup a previous cash grab company or an abbreviation to something?
@@cattocs Nah, the word itself "lup" is something like "steal" or "scam". basically when someone takes a lot of money/value from somewhere.
@@porcus123 Slovakia, Slovak People and Slovak Language. Come on, that was easy.
@@ravenouself4181 who knows eastern europe is composed half by countries that share languages and the other half cant understand anything from their neighboors.
Let's not forget: They're also going to be building a massive tunnel underground, through several separate tectonic plates - some of which are actively still moving at a slow, steady rate. Vacuum chambers need to be solid, stable, and not have parts of themselves moving around.
@@kersplody7435 Don't worry, you will not experience them properly (!) addressing the safety issues of the system during your lifetime. If by some insane miracle they do, keep a place at your table; we'll be eating our words together. But I don't expect this to ever happen.
They'll just have wormholes between each section!
@@ExarduffmanTheFirst I'll pass until we can develop a computer capable of handling that.
@@RustyDust101 I keep thinking it's going to end up like "running man"
Convicted Schwarzenegger ejected by hyperloop 😂😂
We will not be able to match parts of their bodies back together.
18:30 Work for stock options! LOL
I'm sure all the renders will look great on some graphic artists CV though!
Worth it for the Lols? Maybe managers like volunteer experience.. helping special people? There's a lot of laid off folks maybe they do it for the laughs?
Honestly considering it for the lulz
@@StinkPickle4000 Managers want to see projects, and they basically don't care what they are as long as they are 1. completed and 2. not just homework problems.
Basically if you can find a subproject in the whole hyperloop nonsense that's completable (CG renders and visualization stuff is a good example) you can go for it, it's decent resume padding in a pinch. Everyone else stay away.
can someone please debunk a product called GoRolloe before more people get conned for thousands
@@StinkPickle4000 dont even joke about it
I applied for couple of the job opportunities they offered but I was turned down by the basis that my psychosis was not bad enough.
Next time, bring crayons to the interview and start trying to draw on their faces.
3:18
Thunderf00t: **Has a PhD, many publications** "I can't be bothered to do this circle calculation thing"
That has to be one of the most human emotions ever put to quote.
Pi divided by 4 in A=pi/4*d^2 can be estimated as 1 in these calculations.
I think its bait for haters
That was a bit weak. Just call pi three and then the area is 3x2x2 =12 sq m - a much better estimate. Done quicker than saying _"can't be bothered to do the whole circle calc"_ and does not even need the back of an envelope.
@@dukenukem5768 If you are going to make pi 3, just use a square
I love how much effort they put into making the pod as aerodynamic as possible 😭😭😭
I see what you did there
Great point, with no air.
The issue with travelling in capsules in tubes at 700 mph is that even there is a vacuum, there are still air molecules and by moving with such speed in tube you will collect all of those molecules in front of your capsule, producing quite significant pressure, so you need aero dynamic capsule to overcome the pressure of air you would create in a vacuum tube by moving fast in it.
@@kmdsummon I was about say this less eloquently
@@kmdsummon fair enough
"tunnel vision"
"pipe-dream"
I feel like they're dropping so many hints that the whole thing is really just a big troll.
A very profitable troll. If you think about it, this is a very easy way to make tons of money.
All this makes a huge toilet joke am I right?
@@not_that_person yeah, look at Tesla...junk cars and can't turn a profit with no plans to
@@not_that_person Mr Musk certainly does have a certain flair for inspiring people, even if he completely changes the goalposts from time to time. He seems to be able to steer himself out of dead avenues while keeping the flame of wonder alive, while his followers don't realize that he literally changed the definition of what he said he's going to do several times; I will admit that is a rare skill.
@@h3HUg7Sp truly he is a modern Edison
I loved the moment when he said a "vacuum tube with an air hockey table" Vacuum lives from having no air in it. Air hockey lives from blowing air out of a shitton of tiny holes, pretty much countering the vacuum idea.
One thing you dont know is that elon invented vacumairium, so your remarks is just silly sir!
that early drawing at 5:59 shows a vehicle with a huge fan at the front. It looks like it's suckingair o in at the front and blowing it out below. That creates the air cushion and moves the vehicle forward. So there clearly has to be a vacuum with a lot of air to let that work.
Maybe they need to pump extra air into the tubes to let the vehicles lift of easier, it should fly better in a thicker athmosphery. /s
Maybe the journalist had a scientific background and was being stumped by this contradiction.
@@Bauer-ke6lp There must be two different design teams who never talk to each other. One team is designing a vacuum system but the other team is thinking it will run in air.
@@dukenukem5768 That's the first explanation I've seen of any of this that makes any sense at all!
As someone who's spent several decades in the high-vac industry, I've got to say that is one big-ass gate valve! It's about twice the size of the largest one I've every worked with, which was a 10' (3m) diameter version built for a Lawrence Livermore laser fusion experiment.
I didn't see a strongback on the other side, so I'm not sure how it seals, but if they can't get it to cycle any faster, it's going to have a huge impact on throughput (i.e. the schedule). Not a way to run a railroad.
they could have built a profitable high speed train in California with all the money they have wasted on this
This may be a way to keep places from putting in highspeed rail so everyone is forced to buy a Tesla to get from A to B.
@@kensmith5694 no. This is not a "thing" at all. It can be doubted that it got much more funding than what it took to actually construct the structures seen in the picture.
It is shoddy all over. Even as a scam it's quite bad.
Hell, even DogeCoin does a better job at syphoning money.
I'd be truly embarrassed to be working on any HL team.
They could just build a Hyperloop to the Moon, and get the vacuum for free. lol
Shut up and take my money.
it may sound stupid to the neo luddites and nay sayers, but really it's visionary
BRILLIANT!🍺
Brilliant! Perhaps we could run a pipeline from space and import the vacuum continuously!
Hang on... what if it sucks out all of the air from Earth, like Megamaid from Spaceballs?
We're not thinking this through.
00:07 "Ladies and gentlemen, we have invented: The Barn Door!"
Unfortunately, the horses bolted before we invented it...
Reminds me a Fallout shelter doors lol
That street view of the HyperloopTT main office in LA and Thunderf00t's sarcastic disappointment that it wasn't more than just a shed is legendary already lol.
The more I see about Hyperloop progress the more terrifying it is.
The thing is an engineer's nightmare
It terrifies me too. Terrifies me just how much money is being wasted on this snake oil. It's not even promising looking snake oil either, yet investors and governments are falling for it. We could be funding actual high speed rail, but instead, we're funding Elon Musk's next private jet and not actual useful travel.
I'm scared because eventually this will kill someone
@@HyperSonicX Just as with "Starship", it may require a catastrophe to stop the whole nonsense.
@@Breakfast_of_Champions Exactly, same thing there.
It's honestly just depressing the amount of money being burned on this.
(great vid as always tfoot)
Musk is soooo ridiculously overvalued in his net worth, and his stated net worth pretty much all depends on investors continuously throwing money at ridiculous ideas. But here's the thing about him. Let's say we looked into an alternate reality where investors weren't stupid and all that dried up; what would happen then? Well, he wouldn't be compared to Jeff Bezos, which is completely ridiculous, but he also still owns about 22% of Tesla, which is a tangible product that people buy. So what's my point? He'll be rich either way. Perhaps MUCH LESS rich but still living in a mansion and will probably die in his jacuzzi at 98 years old with the seven lingerie models he just slept with. Once again, what's my point? He can pedal BS over and over because he can ALWAYS afford it even if nothing ever works.
coming to this channel gives me a faith in humanity where reasoning exists
can someone debunk a product called gorolloe before more people get conned
@@polishedbuttons4442 not much reasoning involved in the scam that this channel is. Ranting about Hyperloop while fanatically supporting the people behind it is hypocricy at best.
@ᴡɪɴᴛᴇʀᴍᴜᴛᴇ _ ive heard 20% of all $ were printed during the pandemic.....
The entrance looks like one out of the Fallout 3 shelter. As a killing trap should work equally well.
"We'll pay you in stock options." That sounds completely legit.
At this point being paid in exposure would be the same.
Well when it comes to musk's empire, that might actually pay off.... if you can sell them and at the right time. Tesla is the bitcoin of the stock market.
@@medexamtoolsdotcom Everyone, here's an example of someone trying to cope with the fact that they have invested their life savings on Tesla stocks trying to convince himself that it was a good idea. What a shame. 😢
Hyperloop is like the king of kickstart scams
Elon: air cusion
Elon fans: genius *clap clap clap*
Elon: wheel
Elon fans: genius *clap clap clap*
No no no you don't understand. It's not just a "wheel" it's a "future wheel"! See? It's better cause it's got the word "future" in it. It'll be better than the wheel. You just have to cross your fingers, eyes, legs and toes, spin around in place and wish really really hard and it'll happen!
@@glenngriffon8032 In the future wheels defence; it does have LED's and all videos of it are CGI...
Elon: Air cusion in vacuum chamber
Fans: clap clap
Sane people: ??? But but how ????
Fans: we said clap clap
@@glenngriffon8032 WheelX costs only one dollar and you can teleport to moon with it. Available 2022. Now give me some money.
If said wheel is hollow and has air inside it that provides a supportive cushion of air, he'd have both things, but such a technology is far beyond the abilities of modern humans to comprehend, let alone create, right? It's not like I could just go to my driveway and see such a thing, let alone 4 of them.
Fun fact: we don't currently have wheels that can withstand supersonic speeds for more than a few hours of use at the very best, even if they were solid titanium, a bearing can withstand only so much heat.
Elon has already developed the technology to withstand that in his lab on Mars.didn't you know?
@@majorityperspective3197 haha how dumb of me!
The bearings were made out of Circleturnium.
It's just crazy how much effort is being but into the hyperloop facade, and what's even scarier is the amount of people falling for it.
"...Having a grip on reality is not 'Hating' on Elon Musk"
Yes! 🤣
I would love to see Elon Musk try to make anything, even a garden shed from a kit because I doubt that he is capable of making a model rocket kit or repairing a car without serious help...
@@davidhollenshead4892 he’d hire a team of really talented model makers, insist he can glue it together with grass, which will revolutionise the superglue industry and save the world while costing half the price. 5 years later his team will Elon-glue it together with his new glue that is chemically identical to superglue with green dye added. It will cost twice as much as superglue. Elon would take personal credit for his teams work.
The whole society is like this. We have magical thinking everywhere.
Of course, when the corner deli is worth 100 million dollars in the stock market, is no surprise these shell corporations exist to suck up money.
@@davidhollenshead4892 Mind you, compared to Steve Jobs, Musk looks like one of the mechanics from Fast and Furious. At least he presumably has some idea of how his 'inventions' actually work.
@@PippetWhippet that is one apt analogy, holy shit. I had to seriously facepalm when, in this video, they said that "Musk dug a tunnel". Like, homie, the muskrat didn't do shit. He uses his capital obtained by his father from slaves working in emerald mines to buy labour of actual workers to build his incredibly stupid projects. And heavily inflated stock prices which are orders of magnitude out of proportion to get investments. muskrat is a regular capitalist using slave labour from 3rd world countries, funding fascist coups etc, but because he posts memes on social media he's "oh so cute and so visionary, awwwww"
*fuck the elongated muskrat, all my homies hate the elongated muskrat*
I'm looking forward to seeing how well these underground tubes handle fucking earthquakes in So-Cal
don't worry, they'll just use mag-lev to lift the whole tube, passengers, stations, cars all of it, off the ground when an earthquake happens. It's really quite simple, promise.
@@LOGIBEAR01 And where do you think the tubes are? An earth quake is a major problem for these tunnels/tubes. X, Y or Z are all bad directions to suffer movement. Where would tge huge shock absorbers be placed that doesn't result in a curve on the tube (bad, bad, bad at extreme speeds)? And how to implement telescopic sections on the tube for length adjustments?
They’re empty tubes, so probably won’t have a hard time...
@@perwestermark8920 don’t you understand? The tubes are magic, like internet tubes!
I was at a 2018 safety conference, where one of these "Contributors", presumably also "paid" in stock options presented some of the work that had been done on Hyperloop TT regarding safety. It was professionally done and took a reasonable look with best-practice methodologies at some aspects, such as autonomous capsule life support, capsule doors, tube repressurisation, etc. It didn't address some of the elephants in the room, such as tube integrity, but my impression as a safety professional was that in the long term, and with unlimited funds, hyperloop could be made to operate acceptably safe, but at a cost that would make it economically unviable for any target group. It would maybe take safety measures comparable to aircraft, on a capsule-level, but the infrastructure would be much more expensive and much more difficult to make even tolerably safe. And as far as I recall, the infrastructure wasn't even addressed in the work presented at the conference.
Elon Musk's Hyperloop is literally a prime example of my Bachelors project:
*Start:* Ambitious, good looking and sounds like an amazing idea!
*Work Begins:* You start to doubt your ambiguity, starts to look less good but the idea is still there. Realism kicks in.
*Deadline gets closer:* You have realized why things are as it is and realism has struck you hard, but you still manage to delivered something.
*Hand-in:* You get an average grade. Not what you envisioned but it's still good. Your parents are still proud of you.
_But your best friend got a slightly better grade and is mocking you about it whenever he gets the chance because you always were the harder working one among you and your friends._
Elon got to make the media stop kissing his hand otherwise things will become worse and even more disappointing to society. Weird how the investors have not felt scammed yet and withdrawn their money as the results today is nothing close to what he envisioned years ago. This years-lasting project is, incredibly expensive, after all.
Nahhh this is more of a religious organization
Start: it's a miracle i'm the chosen one
Work begins: look at me i'm special follow me !!!!
Deadline gets closer: He who looses faith in me will be the doom of us all
Hand-in: hey I work in mysterious ways don't question the faith believe and you shall get what was promised when the time is right!
it's a cult
More like mine, where all we had to turn in was our discovery that we had no idea what we were doing, some bits and scraps and got the worst grade without completely failing.
Similar, except in the case of Elon Musk, instead of wanting a passing grade, he wants a pass on your wallet.
I can't believe people actually whooped when Musk went "errr um wheels"
It's just a cult equivalent to another cult that says "amen"
Maybe someone just won a bet
They are hardcore cultists.
Cult leaders have managed to get their followers to commit mass suicide, getting them to whoop about wheels is easy.
Oh Really? If by "amen" you mean "allahu akbar" then yeah 👌🏻
California still can't build a regular railway between LA and SF
They can build it, but it won't be maintained at all and will be abandoned a decade after it's creation.
Nobody would use it.
that's because construction on the hype loop is just about to start, and then it'll be finished in about ten months tops, super easy, no sweat; also no taksie-backsies once you've invested, thank you.
They built one 150 years ago, it just carries useful freight instead of executives.
communist efficiency right there :P
Looking at the open positions, and seeing they have over 20 open marketing positions and only 3 job openings for engineers (all internship jobs) it tells the whole story, the whole thing is a matketing scam.
You wojld think they needed engineers to solve some of the unsolvable issues and current infeasability of the whole project, but no- the project needs more marketers and 3d simmulation specialists...
„High-speed pipe dream“ was actually a very apt description on their website. 😂
"What started as merely a pipe dream..."
...is still just a literal pipe dream.
I won`t lie, I love it when Thunderf00t eyeballs a few numbers, inserts them in a calculation and totally screws over a multi million dollar idiocy with ironclad logic! I could watch that all day tbh!
..and this is just basic mathematics. It's stunning that so many engineers out there fail to grasp the most elementary concepts.
@Matthew Milunic not really.. I've seen some of my coworkers and many others with quite relevant CVs sharing stupid free energy videos on LinkedIn..
@Matthew Milunic Musk: "I have this fantastic new idea for correcting your mistakes. It's a machine that will allow you to travel back in time. I'm giving it the totally original name: TimeX."
Timex watch manufacturers:
@@sorh the overspecialization curse.
I had math teachers in the university that had the "if it can be calculated it happens" mindset, and refused to take things like advil because it never really got totally out of your system....
That got me somewhat worroed until I rode a couple days later about ununoctium synthesys... And got that a ha! Moment when I realized that nature is not math.
It really is great isn’t it.
LOL, that Los Angeles "office". I was dying. 🤣
I know you'd like to laugh, and Hyperloop TT is a joke. But some of the biggest companies had very unusual starting 'offices'. Rare programmed Donkey Kong Country for SNES in a barn!
@@Tatsh2DX Sure but once they had millions, like the hyperloop, they moved to a real office and paid actual salaries to their employees and not stock options.
@@Tatsh2DX OK, but rare had a tangible product that could actually be sold.
@@Tatsh2DX yeah, fair enough.
they're marketing material is grossly misleading though.
@@Tatsh2DX At least they had a company sign above the barn door.
They aren't even asking that you work for Stock....they are asking you to work for Stock Options - in other words, you'll be paying them.
Just a suggestion for Thunderf00t: try to compare the energy savings of not having to move a little bit of air around using aerodinamics (air is actually used to help keep the high speed trains attached to the rails) to the energy requirements of creating and maintaining a vacuum.
i'm getting Marge vs. the Monorail vibes.
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Well, sir, there's nothing on earth
Like a genuine, bona fide
Electrified, six-car Hyperloop
What'd I say?
Hyperloop
What's it called?
Hyperloop
That's right! Hyperloop
Hyperloop
Hyperloop
Hyperloop
I hear those things are awfully loud
It glides as softly as a cloud
Is there a chance the track could bend?
Not on your life, my Hindu friend
What about us brain-dead slobs?
You'll be given cushy jobs
Were you sent here by the Devil?
No, good sir, I'm on the level
The ring came off my pudding can
Take my pen knife, my good man
I swear it's Springfield's only choice
Throw up your hands and raise your voice
Hyperloop
What's it called?
Hyperloop
Once again
Hyperloop
But Main Street's still all cracked and broken
Sorry, Mom, the mob has spoken
Hyperloop!
Hyperloop!
Hyperloop!
Hyperloop!
Hyper, d'oh!
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Well they cut every corner with the monorail but it went somewhere, with hyperloop they spare no expense but it doesn't do anything.
Great comment
"But but, if you read the white paper, for it is written..."
ALL HAIL THE WHITE PAPER!
The only other organisation following a text that vehemently is the 40k Imperium of Man.
Glory to the white paper
The way in which he says "a couple of minutes later" always cracks me up!
Oh? This sounds a bit like an underground rail system and what we used to call 'underpasses'? Great ideas!
"I give you the Springfield Monorail! I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map! Well, sir, there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-car monorail! What'd I say?"
Monorail!
@@thebackgroundguy9491 What's it called?
Hyperloo... oh I mean, MONORAIL!!
@@Carrotsalesman D'oh!
MONORAIL!
The Virgin Hyperloop vs. the Chad working transportation systems.
Even tho those working transportation systems suck ass.
Karen High-Speed Rail, irritated for years from being forced to slow speeds because she travels right alongside occupied homes, wants to see your Manager.
@@KillerChickn I like trains
@@KillerChickn they are very good imo, i especially like trains. here in germany they are pretty neat, albeit deutsche bahn is critically underfunded because it just CAN'T be profitable with normal ticket prices to run a train in every rural no man's land.
love your work. huggs from Portugal
Okay, at this point, it's time for Thunderf00t to get together with EEVblog to design and build small scale models of different systems to compare and contrast the benefits of different types of train systems, including different variations of the hyperloop.
So, basically; regular train on tracks, maglev train, and hovercraft train, with a regular and vacuum tube version of each, with cost comparisons and proper load simulations. Of course, this will probably require both the Musk version and *actually functional* versions of some of these hyperloop design variations.
*That* would pretty much shovel the dirt onto the grave of the Hyperlopp Farce
But its only a medium vacuum. The first large gate valve manufacturer I found on google makes valves up to 3300mm.....It took them 2 years to paint the TT logo on it I guess ;)
It's like Christmas, every time I see T-FooT busting on Elon on my feed! Thanks
"The interior is waiting to be designed in the next step."
Shouldn't you... I don't know... design the interior BEFORE building anything? So you know where to put what, how big it should be and what to put in?
this, this is why modern cars suck, remember the good old days when they'd design a living room and end up with a 17ft car
What interior? I bet if you walk around to the other side you will see that it is a cutout suported by 2 by 4's.
Yes, let's fly an airplane, then design it! Reverse engineering???
Hello thunderfoot. the first thing im gonna say is silly, i know. the definition of loop is something that doesn't have starting point and finishing point. which hyperloop has. just saying..... the second thing i want to say is hilarious but also serious one. there is something that no one considered about safe regulations. car and train manufacturers they do crash tests. which means there are 2 MAJOR crash tests to do before deliver hyperloop to the public. first test is what happens if 2 wagons crash? and the second test is what happens if there is a hole in the hyperloop? so, some day we will watch the 500 million hyperloop geting destroyed by the owners just to demonstrate if it is safe. haha
Lmao the stock options thing would’ve been perfect for The Simpsons clip where Bart takes the stock options from the internet company like a roll of toilet paper.
At least there Bart got to strip all the copper out of the walls, if you work from home for HyperTT you're screwed!
Wow 👏 at this point this is a scam too big to fail. This is a new form of scientology.
No, he took actual stock certificates as toilet paper. These are OPTIONS, which is the right to BUY stock certificates!
@@furtim1 so like if you work for a FastFoodRestaurant and they pay you in 50%-off-cupons?@-@
@@pseudopsychonym Yeah, that's a pretty good comparison.
Can't believe mainstream media isn't ripping him a new one each time he comes up with a new scam.
He's the biggest con artist, but it's easier to villify Adam Neumann and such rather than this literal billionaire playboy.
Thanks Phil, you're doing the world a great service!
MSM covers up everything Dems do wrong so not much chance of that.
@@interman7715 It's not a question of politics. If you think Elon is a democrat, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Most journalists have zero understanding of science & technology--even those "experts" that write for the science/technology sections. It's been that way for decades, if not since the beginning.
@@jaredjones1752 Popular Science makes me cringe.
@@thomasbecker9676 Thank you. Exactly.
I don't understand how people take him seriously when he talks about an air hockey table in a vacuum.
All respect to Thunderf00t for keeping crazy stuff busted. Much appreciated.
They always try to sound so grandiose, deep, inspirational and emotional when they pitch their BS. That Vibranium guy sounded like someone kicked his cat. Politicians do the same, but it is even worse when they can barely read their teleprompter and put the emphasis in the wrong places.
The new material is actually called No brainium. They will make a perfect vacuum then stand near the crack of the door, open up, and get sucked in at the speed of sound. This is how they will travel at high speeds in a vacuum. The tube makes a convenient way to hose away any offal after being sucked into the vacuum. If they're lucky, some body parts will make it to the other side of the tube, but the body parts will get there very fast. Also may I say the tubes remind me of the Running Man.
Musk job requirements: You must have a vacuum skull.
Was that also that material on the dome of that super race in I believe a DC comic. Or was it that guy that could attack with sound waves from his brass knuckles like sound amplification weapons. So many choices and so many simplistic minded engineers. You need NASA astronauts to tell you how that shit will fuck up in a vacuum since I"m sure they were warned and some experienced the shit they are totally unaware of at the moment though after the catastrophy they'll be fully aware. Iike running it in the rainy season with high humidity it'll be almost useless unless they get the world biggest fastest dehumidfier that can do zero humidity instantly.
The tube's reinforcing members are made of Unobtanium, the expansion joint bellows are made of Bullshittium, and the fasteners are made of Gullibilium.
I once drove across the US. Nebraska was thee WORST part of the drive: totally STRAIGHT!
I was driving for HOURS without hardly moving the STEERING WHEEL.
It gave me ANXIETY worrying that my car would NOT be able to turn if I wanted it to.
So I started doing unnecessary LANE CHANGES just to get some ARM MOTION and confidence that the car was STILL UNDER my control.
In a tunnel, your motions have to be EXTREMELY SUBTLE, or you'll CRASH into the wall.
You'd BOUNCE from wall to wall if that happened.
That's why the tunnel SPEED LIMIT has to be set so low.
Just imagining this tunnel driving brought these memories back.
Later I had to drive through a mile long tunnel under the Rockies, but that tunnel was WIDE.
Tunnels create ANXIETY in me. I'm able to overcome it, but it doesn't seem like something I want to get used to.
Came for Hyperloop debunking, stayed for the Spongebob time card impression
5:42
It’s almost like having a Billionaire who owns a CAR company design your public mass transit system is a bad idea...
Still want to know what engineer though air cushion levitation in a vacuum chamber was a good idea. Kinda defeats the point of the vacuum or if you were trying to use the trace air in the chamber to get that air, well you have to get up to speed first to use it like that.
Not to mention the GIANT TURBINE on the front to propel it forwards.
God... I can just see myself working for these people and keep having to leave the room because I can't stop laughing
Who needs engineers to design your experimental transport system when you can have an army of art designers and marketers? It's almost like the goal is to funnel investor dollars somewhere. I'd start with who they are outsourcing the real work to and what their relationship to the founders are.
“Mr. Fusion” powered phone!! Great Scott!!!😂🤣
When they say it's neck and neck between the two companies, they're not kidding. They're neck and neck on square 1.
Maybe they've got their knees on each others neck?
@@stmounts in what way
Savage! 🤣
Elon Musk: "Wormholes!"
Super Mario Bros. (1993): "But what if the dinosaurs weren't all destroyed?! What if the impact of that meteorite created a parallel dimension, where the dinosaurs continue to thrive and evolve into intelligent, vicious, aggressive beings, just like us? And, hey! What if they found a way back?"
When you fail so bad you make the Super Mario Bros. movie seem more cogent by comparison you know you are something truly special.
I love how they casually dropped going faster than "150 mph" like everyone could simply get accustomed to it. Over 100 mph is already quite fast for many people and anything over that speed causes a significant increase in problems that can happen
As our local road safety love to remind us, the faster you go, the bigger the mess. 😊
I had to do a double-take at the video title, because I forgot "Virgin" was the name of a company. I think I've seen too many "chad vs virgin" memes
Same! The Chad bullet train vs the Virgin hyperloop!
same lol
@@querube78 I really hope somebody uses that for a RUclips title when Virgin Hyperloop is on the cusp of failure.
the same. The Virgin Hyperloop vs the chad japanese Hayabusa
And in one of the videos where they said "Two Virgin Hyperloop executives"
But it's not "Two [Virgin Hyperloop] [Executives]"
It's more like "Two [Virgin] [Hyperloop Executives]"
I kind of want to get some clips from DragonBall Z and post them with a caption saying, "Look how Elon Musk will revolutionize martial arts in the next 4 years."
Heck, he’ll do it in 4 months!
Elon: Goku can do a Kaioken x1000. I will do a Kaioken x1,000,000,000.
A shaved Elon looks like Krillen...
"Fast forward to 2021 and two companies are in a race to see who can fuck it up the fastest virgin hyperloop and hyperloop TT."
I haven’t watched your videos in years. I really like what you’ve done with them. The back of the napkin calculations are great! Also, you come across less arrogant. And you are still the same shit talking skeptic :). Keep up the good work !
Did TT literally make a business out of unveiling the same thing over and over? Is this 1984? Are we at war with Eurasia or Eastasia?
Yes
we have ALWAYS been at war with Hyperloop
I'm not sure. My memory is so bad that I sometimes think it's one, but it turns out it was the other. I'll have to ask Big Brother next chance I get.
Hyperloop.
Step 1: Hype!
Step 2: Loop back to step 1.
@@MrNateSPF you're confusing step 3 with step 3. Step 2 is "get money from investors"
Obviously, the whole things goes on in a loop, hence the name Hyperloop
“High-sped pipe-dream”
That’s not going to age well, is it 😂
Not even milk will age so badly
I'd like to see an analysis comparing the carbon footprint of the Hyperloop and tunnels with conventional roads and tracks. And why is a vehicle meant to travel in a vacuum pointy on the ends?
Hyperloops have NO carbon footprint whatsoever, unlike conventional roads, tracks, and even trains.
....since hyperloops don't exist.
I've really enjoyed watching your videos late at night and ordering some delicious food to have.
Dinner and a show 🙂👍
instead of oil fossil fuels the train will run on sustainable wood that will be grown next to the hyperloop system, this new engine they are calling Hypersteam will burn the wood to heat up a boiler to produce steam that will then power a turbine that will charge electric batteries that will power the hypertrain.
*hypetrain
"sustainable wood" 😂
Alright, that one made me laugh.
I am developing the Larper-hype. Its a fresh idea that utilized high tech catapults to air-launch people across cities to avoid traffic.
Much much more feasible than the hyperloop since it doesn’t require building miles of crazy expensive infrastructure to link departure to arrival point. Eco friendly, quick to build, cost effective, exciting, forward looking... You should seriously consider setting up a go fund me to develop the concept. You can hire graphic designers for the visuals and pay them with stock options.
Dont forget mentioning how you will experience weightlessness just like in space!
Bro the Mexicans are well ahead of you, just their cargo is drugs, very cost effective.
Thanks Thunderfoot!
I wanna see one of these companies actually try to build a proof of concept. stations on both sides, boardable pod with human-analogues, pressurization and depressurization, tunnel long enough to reach top speed, and a simple turning system to take a pod off of the one way track and onto the one way track back (tunnel back not needed). i think that's the minimum to do safety tests and prove passenger viability
Hyperloop aka, Jack Kevorkian's wild toboggan ride
Actually, not a bad way to go! If I ever get super old with terminal illness I'll take Jack Kervorkian's Wild Tobaggan Ride!
Its like a more expensive and complex version of the euthanasia rollercoaster!
Musk really should just start building underground launched rollercoasters as his 'hyperloop' instead of freaking vacuum tubes, they're more fun than trains, would look great with his RGB lighting fetish, and the tech has been around for decades
A water slide would be more effective.
@@lolbuster01 Slip N' Slide transit system! On elevated aqueducts. With water slide off-ramps.
The hyperloop.....the hilariously stupid idea that just refuses to die.
20:08 You'll need a spatula degree, for scraping dismembered body parts and bits of cabin from the walls of the tunnel when they do make that paper thin "nobrainium" capsule pressure capable.
Nuclear powered smartphone sounds like a Kickstarter Campaign!