WRX is the only AWD "Sports" Sedan left on the market that offers 6MT. The supply is plenty so most likely you'll get one at a discount. The value in base model is just insane. If stock performance is not enough just get an intake and a tune, and you're at 300+hp, even more insane value!
I got a TR close to 4k under MSRP. Since the TS is coming out, the TRs are sitting around. They even called it the TS a few times at the dealership. I have no idea why these cars are so slept on, Subaru should be making gangbusters..
@@murmsuniversalrobotics3938because they are not the best at anything. But a jack of all trades. It’s been like that for the WRX and STI forever. People want something that is the “best” and Subaru never delivers that. That’s why cars like the Corolla GR, CTR and Elantra N even draw more attention than a WRX.
pricing for all of those cars were totally fked in 2023 when I bought my wrx SI - 6-8k markup - absolutely delusional dealers thinking SIs are Type Rs GTI - 2-3k markup Elantra - 1-2k markup, and no test drives allowed Meanwhile... WRX - 2-6k discount depending on your trim
Remember in 2019 when (maybe 2020). You could buy a new GTI with 3.5k off from VW? That was hell of a good deal!!! For some reason, I bought a used 2018 STI Limited instead lol.
@@Konformation07 in my area (south of Philly) there are sooooo many Subarus. Many many WRXs. Don't know in other areas though. In Texas with straight roads, maybe a RWD is more useful.
Im glad the video helps. Regardless of what people say the most important thing for you to do is list your pros and cons and test drive each one. Only you can say what works best!
Depends on what you want. This is one automotive segment where the cars are really, really different. All small Utes are really the same (apart from reliability, etc.) RAV, CR-V, Sorento, etc. All small sports sedans are the same (A4, 330i, etc.). Here we have a AWD sedan, a FWD sedan and a FWD hatchback. I've owned six Audi/VWs and loved them all. That said, I didn't go that way this time as they were reliable, but when something did go (water pump, timing belt maintenance, etc.) PARTS are EXPENSIVE. Audi-VW turbos are super easy to tune and bulletproof. The GTI is a great car, but no AWD, which I need in winter here in NW PA. I owned nothing but Honda/Acura products in the 90s. Ultra-reliable. First true all-engine high power cars. Now they've gone the turbo route, which I don't think they have the expertise like Subaru or VW/Audi. The Civic chassis and shifter are awesome, but a 1.5L engine doesn't have much headroom for tuning. Again, no AWD, and like the GTI, kind of boring looking. The WRX is inexpensive ($30k), reliable (CR loves the car), plenty out there at a DISCOUNT (I got mine for $2k off sticker + STi shifter), AWD and with the 2.4 (not 1.5, 2.0, but 2.FOUR) engine, the headroom for tuning is huge. You can leave stock, or increment your power over 100 hp to whatever you want to risk. I've owned 26 cars in my lifetime that were mine personally (not counting cars for my wife or kids). My '23 WRX is my all-time favorite. I laugh almost every time I drive it. Keeps me young.
The important part is that we have choices. It may not be a WHOLE lot of choice but at least there is something for everyone. Not everyone needs or wants AWD. Its nice to have an alternative. Those who can afford two cars maybe can get 2 of these. To those people i say, im jealous haha
I had the new civic si before my current 22 wrx, just wasn’t good enough in my northern climate it gets deep out here and the wrx is unmatched in the snow, but the si was fun in the summer when the roads were warm and got really good gas mileage and the shifter is superior to the wrx as well as rev matching downshift was nice
Having coveted WRXs for a while now, I have also looked at competitors, and one that you didn't mention is the Acura Integra, which with the manual starts at 37,400, or it has a CVT (ew) at 32,400. Love your videos, thank you!!
Nice video man.. i live in NC so dont really need awd but just always liked wrxs and how they felt... got a 23 manual one... i am consistently thinking about if i should have got the elantra though since im not a heavy modder.. but the wrx really is a ton of fun
Personally, after owning many fun front wheel drive vehicles over the year, I wanted to give awd a try so I bought a VB. It's been great, very fun in the winter. I will never go back to front wheel drive.
@@HeavyMetalWRX I just find the youngest salesman and do my thing. If they complain I just take it back say I’ll go buy elsewhere lol. Long as you not doing 100+ mph they usually keep quiet tell them I gotta try it out before buying otherwise I’d buy a Camry. One salesman did freak out on me I was abusing a STI acted like it was exotic smh
@@HeavyMetalWRX send me your email details and I can send you many videos of performance runs for Elantra DCT and Manual as well as wrx… all 0-100 etc with hard launches
If anyone is having trouble picking a car. I was riding shotgun with my wife in her VB WRX a while back. We smacked a deer at 50mph.. the hood is slightly misaligned, bumper has minor damage, grill is cracked, both headlights are cracked but still work. Would the competition survive hitting a deer at 50mph? Would they be totaled? Subaru’s are tanks. Just saying.
Also the wrx if it had more power stock it would be an easy win over the rivals.. but it’s been out for 2 years now and Subaru are trying to dress it up with brakes and wheels and trims etc but never touch the power? Why not add 20kw and 40-50nm? Reliability concerns? The manual dont like the torque? The cvt will break? The turbo falls off efficiency after 6000rpm? Is it as moddable as we all think?
Hello Awais ! I’m a huge Subaru fan I owned a 2016 Impreza 5spd manual for 8 years last year I wanted to upgrade so I was going to purchase an SI because it was $30,000 msrp about 4k cheaper than the WRX. However dealers were marking up the Si and the OTD prices were 39k here in NJ which is INSANE I straight up told the guy why would I get a 200hp 39k car when I can get a WRX AWD and more HP cheaper they said the Si was a premium car so it’s a premium price 😂 I drove it it was extremely underwhelming fake engine noises really killed it for me I ended up getting a 24 premium package 12 and man I’m so glad I made this choice 0 regrets and CHEAPER than the Si 😂
I’d give a very narrow win to the Elantra N, call it 51/49 lead. I’ve tested both for over a day at a time.. Elantra more focused performance car stock for stock. The wrx is the better base if you want to mod and Japanese built. But stock for stock the wrx with its 6100rpm rev cut is not appropriate for a performance car.. to me it seemed like Subaru didn’t want to let the rally heritage go yet didn’t want to develop a ICE performance car so basically put the accent engine in an Impreza and that’s it. WRX is a nice base, awd, turbo, practical size and manual but isn’t hard edged like Elantra N. But for daily duties and not driving at 10/10th the wrx is also a great option
Good bang for your buck performance. But, for me it's more of a summer vehicle. I need something more practical with 4 doors for all year round driving.
WRX has been in my wheelhouse because of value and I live in an area with inclement weather. Those other cars are a fantastic daily driver option but the Stealership markups tarnish the brands.
I think the weather portion really helps sell it for some of us. Im in the Midwest so we get plenty of snow and rain. When that happens I go into survival mode and the WRX with snow tires is an absolute TANK and i love it.
Also see the samcarlegion recent video, on a roll the Elantra N just run away from the TR wrx.. yes wrx has awd launch but which owner wants to break their car launching at 5000rpm too often.. for daily driving the car with the better roll on power will be more enjoyable
All I’m running is a drop in filter and a 93 tune and I’m at 300whp. The redline has been bumped up to 6400 as well. $600 for the access port $500 for the dyno tune.
@@jonttran1092 Subaru is sandbagging this engine before the release of the sti. If I had to guess the sti will be around 350hp so about 300whp. Unfortunately it’s probably going to be at least 50k.
@@OOOnanana it wouldn't take a lot. Tbh my quarter mile on 93 is almost the same as a stock m3 manual (12.6 vs 12.2). The M3 competition is AWD so considerably faster. FBO ethanol WRX is on par with a stock m3 manual, id say. I may be able to take a M3 in a roll...I think maybe I need to test this haha
The WRX and STI have never been the best, but they are the standard bearer and have been pretty much since their introduction. With each generation there was a car better, the EVO beat them, the Focus RS beat them, Golf R, the Corolla GR beats them. But those cars are always in limited numbers with mark up. And almost guaranteed to not last production for more than 5 years. WRX/STI you get 90% there with less cost, no mark up, and availability. Given the STI is not offered at this moment, but they basically have trims of WRX that are equal, they just don’t want to call it an STI until they figure out the hybrid thing.
Kind of a odd statement considering the Golf R has been in production since 03, and now has out lasted the STI. The GRs aren't going anywhere anytime soon either. They just got a refresh, a new auto, and Toyota has been steadily ramping up production. More 50% if we're being honest. The VA STI was not at all close to what the Focus RS or the MK 7/7.5 Golf R was doing. The VB has a better engine and but the GR is the full package, and MK8 Golf R is out there giving V8s a run for their money stock. Availability and discounts are pretty much the most of the reason to go Subie. But the GR has become a lot more available at MSRP or less pre-owned.
Yea tune helps but I wanted to talk about them stock for stock. Overwhelming majority of WRX owners actually do not tune them. (like 70% or so are stock)
The Elantra N is a cool ass car and faster than wrx stock. But the tuning capability of the wrx is so much higher and more reliable. The vw options are nice but the driving characteristics is too soft. Feels numb imo. I came from a jetta dportwagen 6MT tdi. With the wrx, you're competing with the Golf R, Gr corolla and type r but in a lower price range.
You get the most for your money with a base WRX imo. Quick and fun AWD sedan with a decent manual that doesn't have rev-hang unlike all of it's competitors. The DSG GTI is slower on paper, but keeps up with an octane learned Elantra N on 87 octane from a roll... ruclips.net/video/Tyh6EiOIbNE/видео.html BTW - I bought my son a base 24' GTI DSG for 2k under MSRP 6 months ago in Maryland. It's a great little car. Comes with a ton of features for a base. Excellent fuel economy, quick enough to be fun, practical daily. Infotainment system looks good, but is a little wonky. You get used to it once you figure out it's nuances. If I was on a budget and had to have a fun practical manual daily, I'd go with the base WRX.
Im not too surprised. First im surprised about the fueling but either way the GTI still makes less power. The Elantra N really is such an outlier with power for price but its still hard to get past the Hyundai part.
The core cost 37k. There are a lot less of them around here. The WRX is considerably plentiful. Even the GR Corolla at MSRP is going to be more expensive because you definitely can get a WRX base for under MSRP so the gap goes from 5k to maybe even 7k.
I think if the WRX didnt exist this choice becomes a lot easier. I really love the Civic SI but the Elantra N does make a compelling argument. The "its a hyundai" is still a relevant argument as they have had some issues with this generation already. This is why i think maybe next gen Elantra will get more love.
gti bad ass car, elantra n well those turds nobody wants. heck even the people buying them are constantly posting up issues and selling them with under 20k miles. its not coicidense because as we know hyundai sucks. i learned the hard way with 3 blown motors under 100k miles. i went to buy a new one and on the damn test drive the car went into limp mode with a dct error. that was and will forever be the last time i even think about buying a hyundai or kia.
Can’t wait til I touch my power a little more on my 23 wrx. i just have a perrin intake, along with my protune done by graham and we’re sitting 310-315 hp 350-360 tq and a 2.0t honda accord took me out top end. those Accords are sleepers. the 10 speed and k20 engine is very nice together. once i get grahams e40 blend tune, ill whoop him for sure this time 😂
@@HeavyMetalWRX it was some random Accord on the streets lmaoo😭😭 the car didn’t look modified or anything til we both got on the highway together and he was pulling away from me.
True but you can get a base GT mustang for $37k after discounts. Run 11’s stock and slap blower on it run 8’s so you never gonna a chance. V8’s can’t be beat price for speed if that’s your jam. Mine ran 9’s under $50k nothing touched me unless it was boosted V8 or $200k built GTR
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks yup can't beat a v8 for the power/cost. Unfortunately I live in the mountains and need AWD. That's why I picked up a g42 m240i xdrive. My buddy is in the 9s already with just a few bolt ons and an upgraded stock turbo.
@@rawevoli those M240xi are very impressive awd B58 FTW. I had my mustang years ago today if I was aiming for 9’s again probably go that route too. Better interior, handling, and more sleeper. Everyone knows a mustang can be fast
Going by price it definitely does. There arent a whole lot of cars that provide with these cars provide under 35k. Its definitely something that a shopper will cross when looking at a turbo sedan.
GTI : FWD and German where reliability becomes an issue. Si : FWD and way less power and torque for what you're getting. Elantra N : FWD and they are not known for their reliability. Same with any of the Korean manufacturers not to mention the car is genuinely ugly as hell and looks like a cat fish all while have a practically non existent after market support at least in comparison to the WRX. Also keep in mind the listing may say MSRP but when you go to the actual dealer theyre gonna hit you with the markup on those Type Rs, GR Corollas, etc.
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WRX is the only AWD "Sports" Sedan left on the market that offers 6MT. The supply is plenty so most likely you'll get one at a discount. The value in base model is just insane. If stock performance is not enough just get an intake and a tune, and you're at 300+hp, even more insane value!
Thats the thing. As time goes on I think itll be the only 6 speed turbo sedan on the market.
I got a TR close to 4k under MSRP. Since the TS is coming out, the TRs are sitting around. They even called it the TS a few times at the dealership. I have no idea why these cars are so slept on, Subaru should be making gangbusters..
@@murmsuniversalrobotics3938because they are not the best at anything. But a jack of all trades. It’s been like that for the WRX and STI forever.
People want something that is the “best” and Subaru never delivers that. That’s why cars like the Corolla GR, CTR and Elantra N even draw more attention than a WRX.
@@ShengNotShane ok, what would you say is the best manual AWD sport sedan under 35k new?
@@murmsuniversalrobotics3938 Because the GR Corolla is the new STI.
pricing for all of those cars were totally fked in 2023 when I bought my wrx
SI - 6-8k markup - absolutely delusional dealers thinking SIs are Type Rs
GTI - 2-3k markup
Elantra - 1-2k markup, and no test drives allowed
Meanwhile...
WRX - 2-6k discount depending on your trim
Remember in 2019 when (maybe 2020). You could buy a new GTI with 3.5k off from VW? That was hell of a good deal!!! For some reason, I bought a used 2018 STI Limited instead lol.
Says a lot that Subaru has to give these away
@@Konformation07 in my area (south of Philly) there are sooooo many Subarus. Many many WRXs. Don't know in other areas though. In Texas with straight roads, maybe a RWD is more useful.
I test drove an Elentra N in Canada 🤓
@@kaokao9k the veloster n with perf package was hell of a car. Still wish i bought one instead of my STI lol
Perfect timing for this video! I’m cross shopping all these cars currently.
Trust me go Elantra N
Im glad the video helps. Regardless of what people say the most important thing for you to do is list your pros and cons and test drive each one. Only you can say what works best!
Depends on what you want. This is one automotive segment where the cars are really, really different. All small Utes are really the same (apart from reliability, etc.) RAV, CR-V, Sorento, etc. All small sports sedans are the same (A4, 330i, etc.).
Here we have a AWD sedan, a FWD sedan and a FWD hatchback.
I've owned six Audi/VWs and loved them all. That said, I didn't go that way this time as they were reliable, but when something did go (water pump, timing belt maintenance, etc.) PARTS are EXPENSIVE. Audi-VW turbos are super easy to tune and bulletproof. The GTI is a great car, but no AWD, which I need in winter here in NW PA.
I owned nothing but Honda/Acura products in the 90s. Ultra-reliable. First true all-engine high power cars. Now they've gone the turbo route, which I don't think they have the expertise like Subaru or VW/Audi. The Civic chassis and shifter are awesome, but a 1.5L engine doesn't have much headroom for tuning. Again, no AWD, and like the GTI, kind of boring looking.
The WRX is inexpensive ($30k), reliable (CR loves the car), plenty out there at a DISCOUNT (I got mine for $2k off sticker + STi shifter), AWD and with the 2.4 (not 1.5, 2.0, but 2.FOUR) engine, the headroom for tuning is huge. You can leave stock, or increment your power over 100 hp to whatever you want to risk.
I've owned 26 cars in my lifetime that were mine personally (not counting cars for my wife or kids). My '23 WRX is my all-time favorite. I laugh almost every time I drive it. Keeps me young.
The important part is that we have choices. It may not be a WHOLE lot of choice but at least there is something for everyone. Not everyone needs or wants AWD. Its nice to have an alternative. Those who can afford two cars maybe can get 2 of these. To those people i say, im jealous haha
Love the honest comparisons. Great video!
I had the new civic si before my current 22 wrx, just wasn’t good enough in my northern climate it gets deep out here and the wrx is unmatched in the snow, but the si was fun in the summer when the roads were warm and got really good gas mileage and the shifter is superior to the wrx as well as rev matching downshift was nice
Having coveted WRXs for a while now, I have also looked at competitors, and one that you didn't mention is the Acura Integra, which with the manual starts at 37,400, or it has a CVT (ew) at 32,400. Love your videos, thank you!!
@@dsc1596 honestly i considered it but it's basically a Civic SI with different interior.
@@HeavyMetalWRX That's true, good point. I do like the look of the Acura though FWIW.
but you could get acura at msrp but not civic so they were basically same price.
I originally wanted a Civic Type R but all dealers in 100 mold of me had 12-15k dealer markup.
Nice video man.. i live in NC so dont really need awd but just always liked wrxs and how they felt... got a 23 manual one... i am consistently thinking about if i should have got the elantra though since im not a heavy modder.. but the wrx really is a ton of fun
With all the EV talk/cars happening in the past decade it is really cool to see that there is a lot of fun performance cars from a lot of brands.
Personally, after owning many fun front wheel drive vehicles over the year, I wanted to give awd a try so I bought a VB. It's been great, very fun in the winter. I will never go back to front wheel drive.
Thats definitely fair. I have had 1 RWD, 1 FWD, and 2 AWD. Its definitely a unique experience, especially with an open center diff.
Please review the new Elantra N the manual and DCT. Would like know your opinion on it
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks I don't really have a way to get my hands on one. I did do a race with my buddies girlfriends untuned DCT last year.
@@HeavyMetalWRX what there isn’t a Hyundai dealership nearby?
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks they don't exactly just hand out small RUclipsrs a car to abuse 😂
@@HeavyMetalWRX I just find the youngest salesman and do my thing. If they complain I just take it back say I’ll go buy elsewhere lol. Long as you not doing 100+ mph they usually keep quiet tell them I gotta try it out before buying otherwise I’d buy a Camry. One salesman did freak out on me I was abusing a STI acted like it was exotic smh
@@HeavyMetalWRX send me your email details and I can send you many videos of performance runs for Elantra DCT and Manual as well as wrx… all 0-100 etc with hard launches
Love the shirt!
Thanks!
If anyone is having trouble picking a car. I was riding shotgun with my wife in her VB WRX a while back. We smacked a deer at 50mph.. the hood is slightly misaligned, bumper has minor damage, grill is cracked, both headlights are cracked but still work. Would the competition survive hitting a deer at 50mph? Would they be totaled? Subaru’s are tanks. Just saying.
Sure buddy.
@@operationgetthugs232 idk why I would lie about something like this but go off 🫠
After I’m done with my wrx I’m either going to type r or 300zx
@@Beatcheeks id get a type R. I've only ever driven the last Gen but it was an incredible car.
As a previous type r owner, I advise looking into the 2nd gear issues that plague it. Lots in the type r groups have this issue.
Also the wrx if it had more power stock it would be an easy win over the rivals.. but it’s been out for 2 years now and Subaru are trying to dress it up with brakes and wheels and trims etc but never touch the power? Why not add 20kw and 40-50nm? Reliability concerns? The manual dont like the torque? The cvt will break? The turbo falls off efficiency after 6000rpm? Is it as moddable as we all think?
All not true the CVT is sound
@@andrewmessina1927. Hi I’m asking them why not bump the power? If it all holds together?
Tbh Subaru has never done a mid generation power refresh. Its always been extra options so time to just forget that.
Hello Awais ! I’m a huge Subaru fan I owned a 2016 Impreza 5spd manual for 8 years last year I wanted to upgrade so I was going to purchase an SI because it was $30,000 msrp about 4k cheaper than the WRX. However dealers were marking up the Si and the OTD prices were 39k here in NJ which is INSANE I straight up told the guy why would I get a 200hp 39k car when I can get a WRX AWD and more HP cheaper they said the Si was a premium car so it’s a premium price 😂 I drove it it was extremely underwhelming fake engine noises really killed it for me I ended up getting a 24 premium package 12 and man I’m so glad I made this choice 0 regrets and CHEAPER than the Si 😂
Wow! I know that there is definitely a markup in a lot of places but thats a crazy upcharge. I am surprised that more dealers here dont upcharge tbh.
From what I heard, KIA stopped selling the Stinger, but Genisis kept the platform as the G70.
Probably not close to that 35k though...
Ohhh yea thats right. A lot of potential in the G70 and youre right, it starts at $44k.
I’d give a very narrow win to the Elantra N, call it 51/49 lead. I’ve tested both for over a day at a time.. Elantra more focused performance car stock for stock. The wrx is the better base if you want to mod and Japanese built. But stock for stock the wrx with its 6100rpm rev cut is not appropriate for a performance car.. to me it seemed like Subaru didn’t want to let the rally heritage go yet didn’t want to develop a ICE performance car so basically put the accent engine in an Impreza and that’s it. WRX is a nice base, awd, turbo, practical size and manual but isn’t hard edged like Elantra N. But for daily duties and not driving at 10/10th the wrx is also a great option
They make the k5 gt which compares with these cars in this video
@@ashtonheilman2536 that's a very good point! I always forget about the K5.
What’s crazy is I had an ex that had a 2008 VW Jetta, it had about 120,000 miles, and also went through two different alternators
Something that caught my eye was the new mustang GT is about the same cost as a TR.
Good bang for your buck performance. But, for me it's more of a summer vehicle. I need something more practical with 4 doors for all year round driving.
Also the WRX doesn’t tend to leap off the road and mow down pedestrians 😂
Yea the new GT is now like $46. I love the Mustang but tbh i dont ever see myself getting one.
WRX has been in my wheelhouse because of value and I live in an area with inclement weather. Those other cars are a fantastic daily driver option but the Stealership markups tarnish the brands.
I think the weather portion really helps sell it for some of us. Im in the Midwest so we get plenty of snow and rain. When that happens I go into survival mode and the WRX with snow tires is an absolute TANK and i love it.
I wonder when the wrx getting a refresh... 2025?
I heard that it might be in 2026. I swear if i hear any news I will tell the world haha
Also see the samcarlegion recent video, on a roll the Elantra N just run away from the TR wrx.. yes wrx has awd launch but which owner wants to break their car launching at 5000rpm too often.. for daily driving the car with the better roll on power will be more enjoyable
All I’m running is a drop in filter and a 93 tune and I’m at 300whp. The redline has been bumped up to 6400 as well. $600 for the access port $500 for the dyno tune.
@@CharacterZero89 that should drive really nice.. but we can only really compare stock for stock
@@jonttran1092 Subaru is sandbagging this engine before the release of the sti. If I had to guess the sti will be around 350hp so about 300whp. Unfortunately it’s probably going to be at least 50k.
Can a WRX get to M3 speed with some mods? Is yours there?
@@OOOnanana it wouldn't take a lot. Tbh my quarter mile on 93 is almost the same as a stock m3 manual (12.6 vs 12.2). The M3 competition is AWD so considerably faster. FBO ethanol WRX is on par with a stock m3 manual, id say. I may be able to take a M3 in a roll...I think maybe I need to test this haha
The WRX and STI have never been the best, but they are the standard bearer and have been pretty much since their introduction. With each generation there was a car better, the EVO beat them, the Focus RS beat them, Golf R, the Corolla GR beats them.
But those cars are always in limited numbers with mark up. And almost guaranteed to not last production for more than 5 years.
WRX/STI you get 90% there with less cost, no mark up, and availability. Given the STI is not offered at this moment, but they basically have trims of WRX that are equal, they just don’t want to call it an STI until they figure out the hybrid thing.
Kind of a odd statement considering the Golf R has been in production since 03, and now has out lasted the STI.
The GRs aren't going anywhere anytime soon either. They just got a refresh, a new auto, and Toyota has been steadily ramping up production.
More 50% if we're being honest. The VA STI was not at all close to what the Focus RS or the MK 7/7.5 Golf R was doing. The VB has a better engine and but the GR is the full package, and MK8 Golf R is out there giving V8s a run for their money stock.
Availability and discounts are pretty much the most of the reason to go Subie.
But the GR has become a lot more available at MSRP or less pre-owned.
Simple tune and WRX slays
Yea tune helps but I wanted to talk about them stock for stock. Overwhelming majority of WRX owners actually do not tune them. (like 70% or so are stock)
I see guys hopping up Eco Boost Mustangs successfully too. David Vizard has one and beats GTs at the drag strip.
It's another great option at 30k but I left it out because it's too cool with it's 2 doors 😭😭
@@HeavyMetalWRXThey've also gotten way too heavy, they're 3800lbs now 😢
@@HeavyMetalWRX 2 doors does suck when you are picking the kid up from school. WRX is a way better Dad machine 🤣
The Elantra N is a cool ass car and faster than wrx stock. But the tuning capability of the wrx is so much higher and more reliable.
The vw options are nice but the driving characteristics is too soft. Feels numb imo. I came from a jetta dportwagen 6MT tdi.
With the wrx, you're competing with the Golf R, Gr corolla and type r but in a lower price range.
The proper pronunciation of the brand is as follows; sounds like the days of the week in English; "Sunday, Monday, Hyundai". Hun-Day.
You get the most for your money with a base WRX imo. Quick and fun AWD sedan with a decent manual that doesn't have rev-hang unlike all of it's competitors.
The DSG GTI is slower on paper, but keeps up with an octane learned Elantra N on 87 octane from a roll...
ruclips.net/video/Tyh6EiOIbNE/видео.html
BTW - I bought my son a base 24' GTI DSG for 2k under MSRP 6 months ago in Maryland. It's a great little car. Comes with a ton of features for a base. Excellent fuel economy, quick enough to be fun, practical daily.
Infotainment system looks good, but is a little wonky. You get used to it once you figure out it's nuances.
If I was on a budget and had to have a fun practical manual daily, I'd go with the base WRX.
Im not too surprised. First im surprised about the fueling but either way the GTI still makes less power. The Elantra N really is such an outlier with power for price but its still hard to get past the Hyundai part.
"Yes" is the answer
Its always a bit more complicate than that! lol
Haha what a bad ass shirt!!
Hahah thanks!!
I tell people the wrx isn’t the fastest car on the road by any means, but it’s definitely faster than the majority of cars on the road 😎
This is the best answer. I have never claimed its the fastest car, either, but its still got power and its fun.
I mean really the only real competitor is the GR Corolla... And in the Core trim.. the price Gap isn't that bad.
The core cost 37k. There are a lot less of them around here. The WRX is considerably plentiful. Even the GR Corolla at MSRP is going to be more expensive because you definitely can get a WRX base for under MSRP so the gap goes from 5k to maybe even 7k.
If I didn't buy the wrx I would have a elantra n.
I think if the WRX didnt exist this choice becomes a lot easier. I really love the Civic SI but the Elantra N does make a compelling argument. The "its a hyundai" is still a relevant argument as they have had some issues with this generation already. This is why i think maybe next gen Elantra will get more love.
?? Is wrx better
Fortunately, anyone can get an fk8 for 35k.
But not everyone wants to buy a used performance car.
gti bad ass car, elantra n well those turds nobody wants. heck even the people buying them are constantly posting up issues and selling them with under 20k miles. its not coicidense because as we know hyundai sucks. i learned the hard way with 3 blown motors under 100k miles. i went to buy a new one and on the damn test drive the car went into limp mode with a dct error. that was and will forever be the last time i even think about buying a hyundai or kia.
Did you every try the manual one? I have a 23 wrx but I sometimes feel bad I didn't try the elantra n because I don't live in snow lol
Can’t wait til I touch my power a little more on my 23 wrx. i just have a perrin intake, along with my protune done by graham and we’re sitting 310-315 hp 350-360 tq and a 2.0t honda accord took me out top end. those Accords are sleepers. the 10 speed and k20 engine is very nice together. once i get grahams e40 blend tune, ill whoop him for sure this time 😂
@@JoeyC-nr5yk ok hold up you didn't say if that accord was tuned or not and id like to reserve judgement till I hear the full story ☠️😂
@@HeavyMetalWRX it was some random Accord on the streets lmaoo😭😭 the car didn’t look modified or anything til we both got on the highway together and he was pulling away from me.
No.
Mod for mod, wrx smokes everything out there.
@@rawevoli true once you start adding mods. I wanted this one to just focus on what you get from factory. They are all great cars, tbh.
True but you can get a base GT mustang for $37k after discounts. Run 11’s stock and slap blower on it run 8’s so you never gonna a chance. V8’s can’t be beat price for speed if that’s your jam. Mine ran 9’s under $50k nothing touched me unless it was boosted V8 or $200k built GTR
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks yup can't beat a v8 for the power/cost. Unfortunately I live in the mountains and need AWD. That's why I picked up a g42 m240i xdrive. My buddy is in the 9s already with just a few bolt ons and an upgraded stock turbo.
@@rawevoli those M240xi are very impressive awd B58 FTW. I had my mustang years ago today if I was aiming for 9’s again probably go that route too. Better interior, handling, and more sleeper. Everyone knows a mustang can be fast
I mean if all you do is race in a straight line sure.
Was misled by the title, thinking that you were going to drive the three cars and compare them side-by-side, and then a final race😢
@@pequenioedgarito3067 sorry! I hope in the future I will be able to do that 😭
Sorry but Elantra N definitely does not belong in this group but above !
Going by price it definitely does. There arent a whole lot of cars that provide with these cars provide under 35k. Its definitely something that a shopper will cross when looking at a turbo sedan.
Been hearing about some shotty elantra N things. It is hyundai
That is what ive also heard. Most companies tend to have a mistep here or there so I think its just that.
I can never be first !!! >:O
@@elosbeatz5899 soon! 😂
GTI : FWD and German where reliability becomes an issue. Si : FWD and way less power and torque for what you're getting. Elantra N : FWD and they are not known for their reliability. Same with any of the Korean manufacturers not to mention the car is genuinely ugly as hell and looks like a cat fish all while have a practically non existent after market support at least in comparison to the WRX. Also keep in mind the listing may say MSRP but when you go to the actual dealer theyre gonna hit you with the markup on those Type Rs, GR Corollas, etc.