The Detail That Makes This DAVE GROHL FILL Legendary!

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @skeeter197140
    @skeeter197140 Год назад +138

    Beato said the drums were recorded WITHOUT cymbals and hats, and then had them overdubbed after. That, to me is crazy. But if anyone could do it, it's Dave Grohl. Songs for the Deaf is a great album, and I still love No One Knows. Awesome video!

    • @JJ-vg9du
      @JJ-vg9du Год назад +14

      Always, Josh likes to challenge his drummers to be creative, they get practise pads instead of cymbals, than when drums are done, the rest.

    • @ZachIsARuhtard
      @ZachIsARuhtard Год назад +2

      Eric Valentine had a video on his channel that he was forced to take off (probably by QotSA themselves) where he broke down the multitracks of the song. Someone reuploaded it a few months ago if you can find it! Super cool watch if you’re into Beato type stuff

    • @arrrrrran3043
      @arrrrrran3043 Год назад +3

      The song easy target by blink 182 has each part of the drum kit recorded individually with different effects put on each track

    • @nbctheoffice
      @nbctheoffice Год назад +1

      I believe Alkaline Trio also recorded one of their albums this way.

    • @addi0922
      @addi0922 8 месяцев назад +1

      its not any more difficult to do that, it’s actually simpler

  • @squishy312
    @squishy312 Год назад +144

    Grohl is up there when it comes to amazing drummers of all times. His fills are legendary. One of my favorite drummers just behind Danny Carey.

    • @righteousfist175
      @righteousfist175 Год назад +1

      Danny is god

    • @BobSacamano666
      @BobSacamano666 Год назад +6

      How can you put him and Danny in the same paragraph?

    • @malachilightfoot7687
      @malachilightfoot7687 Год назад +1

      yeah also joey jordison

    • @Tipticklerrr
      @Tipticklerrr Год назад +5

      @@BobSacamano666 why not

    • @user-oy7gz5bf2h
      @user-oy7gz5bf2h Год назад +2

      @@BobSacamano666 John Bonham and Neil Peart have little in common. Yet one can hold both at high estime at the same time.

  • @vgaportauthority9932
    @vgaportauthority9932 Год назад +68

    If you wanna go crazy with the herta, invert it. Doing that gives you the ability to accent the 1 and then do the triple after. This is great for nailing a cymbal on each beat and getting the triple inbetween. Sounds great in fills. It lets the cymbal and kick hit hard, and then the tappatatapp adds that spice on the snare and toms. It's also cool if you do kick and cymbal, tappataptap, then snare and cymbal tappataptap and go back and forth. Gives a really powerful halftime feel.
    Herta is an awesome trick. It has all the mindflipping properties of a triplet fill in 4/4, but it sounds way more impressive.

    • @flowerlandofjohn
      @flowerlandofjohn Год назад

      Or accent a cymbal like this ✌🏻🤩
      ruclips.net/video/Mbm9Ksr3ePU/видео.html

    • @Tauno211
      @Tauno211 Месяц назад

      Is one of Clive Burrs nicest fills in 22 Acacia Avenue an inverted herta?

  • @teresathomley3703
    @teresathomley3703 Год назад +57

    Very well done there, Mike. "No One Knows" always made me think of "Detroit Rock City" as well. Queens are probably the best straight rock band of the past 25 years imo. That drum fill was instantly addictive when I first heard it. Good job replicating it. 👍👏🤘

  • @banananananananananananananas
    @banananananananananananananas Год назад +50

    On the topic of Bleed it was actually one of the guitarists Frederik Thordendal who came up with the various patterns in that song. Originally it was for a practice routine but then he presented it to the rest of the band as a potential song. They had doubts if it was actually doable on kick drums for a while and it ended up taking their drummer Thomas Haake around half a year to learn how to properly play it all the way through. It almost didn't make it onto the album and now it's their most famous song, love that band for how they're always pushing limits.

    • @SlowerRiot
      @SlowerRiot Год назад +1

      Haake is such a monster, one of the GOATs. Counts Songs for the Deaf as one of his all time favourite drum performances also.

    • @IanZWhite00
      @IanZWhite00 7 месяцев назад

      That it took someone who already plays with such speed and precision _half a year_ for that lick is honestly really encouraging, and a little humbling. The best aren’t just the best cause they’re the best (lol), they have the humility and wisdom to recognize that things take time. It’s very easy for me to want to give up the second I stop seeing immediate gains, and I imagine that’s one of the bigger differentiators between someone like myself and the pros

  • @markusszelbracikowski956
    @markusszelbracikowski956 Год назад +9

    The drumming on this track is just beautiful. You should do a whole song for this one, it has a lot of incredible fills

  • @CorbCorbin
    @CorbCorbin Год назад +8

    Song for the Dead, is my favorite intro on that album, but he’s amazing throughout the entire thing.

  • @chadzwieg9855
    @chadzwieg9855 Год назад +8

    Brings me back to Maiden. The beginning of Where eagles dare. But what do I know I'm a guitarist!

    • @RogierRJDonker
      @RogierRJDonker Год назад

      Exactly! I was thinking of that song also

  • @XCHADHIGGINSX
    @XCHADHIGGINSX Год назад +1

    I love that herta/Kashmir connection. Cool thought!
    Carter Beauford is the king of the herta IMHO.

  • @HannahCope88
    @HannahCope88 Год назад +8

    🤘🏻🔥 was only thinking about this song yesterday

  • @bernieconatser1028
    @bernieconatser1028 Год назад +4

    I love how you can hear elements of different songs when you are working on basic building blocks. Impressive encyclopedic associations.

  • @nealskydive
    @nealskydive Год назад +2

    Tomas Haake from Meshuggah spent the guts of 7 or 8 months working on the Bleed hertas before going to the band. It's incredible. Great vid

  • @douglasmijangos3327
    @douglasmijangos3327 Год назад +40

    Every time I hear that song or think of that song it reminds me of “A Day in the Life” by the Beatles .. how they both have this epic build up and then it stops and 1 instrument continues playing by itself.. the Piano 🎹 on “A Day in the Life” and the Bass 🎸 on “No One Knows” 😂

    • @topher4677
      @topher4677 Год назад +5

      Funnily enough, they asked the orchestra specifically for the "A Day in the Life" thing but tried to be sneaky about it by describing but not referring to the song by name, but someone in the orchestra responded by saying "Oh, you mean the A Day in the Life thing? We get asked to do that all the time."

    • @douglasmijangos3327
      @douglasmijangos3327 Год назад

      @@topher4677 😂 that’s hilarious it’s like “tell me you want to rip them off without telling me you want to rip them off” I love the song though.. I’ve seen QOTSA live .. actually wit the Foo Fighters 😂 both amazing live

    • @BareBandSubscription
      @BareBandSubscription Год назад

      @kevvcop
      Objectively, factually false. They actually pioneered or helped pioneer quite a bit of things, from popular musical composition and musical genres (including electronic music and even heavy metal), to production techniques including looping and sampling. They really were ridiculously important.

  • @dylanhouchin
    @dylanhouchin Год назад

    Used to teach young kids, always loved teaching hurtas. Such an easy way for beginners to play awesome fills and build their rhythm

  • @Hevvvyyy
    @Hevvvyyy Год назад +2

    QOTSA mann, what a great band with a ton of killer songs

  • @danielfurmage4381
    @danielfurmage4381 Год назад +2

    Saw Dave play this live with Queens of the Stone Age at Glastonbury 02', was just so good!

  • @geraldhartley
    @geraldhartley Год назад +2

    It's so cool that you're an excellent drummer - as well as an excellent guitarist. You're like Brian Tichy!!

  • @neon_one
    @neon_one Год назад +3

    Manu Ketuche from Peter Gabriel has some cool fills and tom work. I get chills from what he does in 'In your eyes' and 'san jancito' from secret world live, and 'Lay your hands on me' in Live from athens

  • @rcartertoe
    @rcartertoe Год назад

    Thanks for breaking this down 🙏🏼 This truly is a special fill that stands out. I appreciate the deep dive on this!

  • @jimreed2138
    @jimreed2138 Год назад +2

    Grohl is what got me into Queens Of The Stone Age. Since than they are my favorite band! Very underrated but those who know definitely know 🤘🤘🤘

  • @sydneyhalliwell2513
    @sydneyhalliwell2513 Год назад +3

    Great video. I always referred to Grohl as the lord of the 4 piece kit. Such a creative drummer

  • @joethedrumma
    @joethedrumma Год назад +2

    First time I heard a Herta (or really noticed it) was on A7X' Nightmare, just at the end of the chorus leading in to the verse. I was so determined to learn that and to this day it's still one of my favorite fills. I do them all the time with my hands on the table, knees, or what ever I can drum on 😂

  • @RileysDadRocks1
    @RileysDadRocks1 Год назад +3

    This is a very hard rudiment to perfect. I am still working on it. Doing it like this song calls for is tough....going back and forth from snare to toms and back to snare and a the speed it's played at. Very advanced

  • @lee5150
    @lee5150 Год назад +1

    The first thing I heard was 'Violence' by Blink. Travis uses a herta in he drum intro. 👍

  • @thatchadlmiller
    @thatchadlmiller Год назад

    When I saw the title of this video, I thought "it needs to be that crazy fill from No One Knows". Well done.

  • @JBrooksNYS
    @JBrooksNYS Год назад

    Just wanna say... love these types of videos from you

  • @rg3825
    @rg3825 Год назад

    An important fill to know. I couldn't do it well for a long time because I didn't have strong rudiment skills. The accent placement and speed is what really sells this fill. Usually hard first note accent then putting those first three notes really tight together. Accenting third note flips the feel interestingly. Experiment with the accent. Great vid!

  • @secretcanineagent
    @secretcanineagent Год назад

    I was sure you gonna talk about that fill when i saw the thumbnail.
    Never tried playin that, but now i now what its based on, thanks man

  • @bryandraughn9830
    @bryandraughn9830 Год назад +7

    Great stuff man!
    There's a Satriani tune called "if" and the drums are just amazing all the way through.
    I'm probably the only guitar player who listens to a Satch tune for the drums!
    It's fascinating watching someone who is well versed in both instruments.
    You should check it out. It's slathered in nuance.

    • @TransDrummer1312
      @TransDrummer1312 Год назад

      I’ve snagged so many ideas from Satriani’s percussion sections lol. They’re a goldmine of fills.

    • @ericvinson4628
      @ericvinson4628 Год назад

      Jonathan Mover is a beast of a drummer - love all his work w/ Satriani!

    • @cojones-72
      @cojones-72 Год назад

      The drummer of "If" and most of the tunes on that Satriani album is Manu Katche (also mentioned in a comment above). Brilliant French drummer who played for Peter Gabriel and Sting.

  • @ehdforlife
    @ehdforlife Год назад +1

    I love that fill too! Great job!

  • @Calzonelly
    @Calzonelly 5 месяцев назад

    So glad I came across this, Ive been trying to play that part for a while just like how you did and I too noticed it just didn’t sound right.

  • @MichaelgambinomusicVideos
    @MichaelgambinomusicVideos Год назад

    Another great vid, Mike, this fill got my attention immediately all those years ago and I never looked into it. Thank you!

  • @dragons_red
    @dragons_red Год назад

    Yup, that song hooked me into QotSA because of it reminding me of Detroit Rock City (one of the few Kiss songs I love)

  • @TPM4594
    @TPM4594 Год назад

    I will never ever get tired of listening to hertas.

  • @mini_moose_x
    @mini_moose_x Год назад +2

    Interesting, definitely going to throw this into my rhythm riffs, big fan of that groove.
    Loving the drum vids btw! 🤘

  • @ericvinson4628
    @ericvinson4628 Год назад

    Love the 100,000 years reference - always here for the Kiss deep cuts references!!!

  • @somersetcace1
    @somersetcace1 Год назад

    Very well explained and demonstrated. That particular rudiment is all over music over the years. As soon as you played it at speed I started to really recognize it, though I seem to recall it being used in conjunction with other rudiments in the same fill most of the time. So, you might start with the Herta and switch to a strait triplet or some other rudiment within the same fill and then back to the herta, etc, etc.

  • @lewismaclean8849
    @lewismaclean8849 Год назад +1

    Very nice breakdown of a simple rudiment that can be used anywhere. Also thanks for mentioning Bleed, I didn’t think that you would know about that song, then again I think that was due to me being ignorant.

  • @dontplayformenero
    @dontplayformenero Год назад +1

    Great video... An interesting fill is in Nirvana's 'Aneurysm'... At the start when the tom build up is about to finish Dave Grohl does a killer fill into the Heavy part.
    On first listen it's sort of similar to the fill at the start of 'Enough Space' by Foo Fighters but actually not really in practice.
    Check it out

  • @goodsirminnow
    @goodsirminnow Год назад

    Those toms sound soooo good

  • @Benjamin-om3ih
    @Benjamin-om3ih Год назад +1

    Great video. You are always such an incredible comunicator

  • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
    @PNW_Sportbike_Life Год назад

    Herta baby; such a boss rudiment! One of my favorite uses is Neil Peart on “Passage to Bangkok.”

  • @coasternut3091
    @coasternut3091 Год назад +4

    I always loved Queens of the Stone Age, I didn't know it was Dave Grohl until many years later

    • @jimreed2138
      @jimreed2138 Год назад

      Grohl drummed on 2 of their albums.

    • @jamesnunn7181
      @jamesnunn7181 Год назад +1

      You should look up ‘Desert Sessions’; Josh Homme basically kept a fluid group of musicians constantly coming around, some made it on record multiple times, some didn’t make it at all, really interesting period in music generally tbf RIP KYUSS

  • @KendoSwordsman
    @KendoSwordsman Год назад

    What the absolute hell?! 😂I'm so jealous of your uprights in the background. Particularly the MK1 upright.

  • @Peron1-MC
    @Peron1-MC Год назад +1

    megadeth - "she wolf" has a herta guitar riff chug :)
    also underrated megadeth song. its great and fun to play :)

  • @Tyrannosaurine
    @Tyrannosaurine Год назад +1

    The grunge era tends to get overlooked as far as musicianship is concerned but there was a bunch of good drummers.
    Heck, if Dave Grohl is like, the 3rd or 4th best drummer in rock music, you know there’s some talent around.
    Jimmy Chamberlain (the Smashing Pumpkins) was an absolutely amazing drummer and Matt Cameron is so underrated it’s criminal. Dude played in the oddest time signatures while making it sound totally smooth and Normal.

  • @nicholasgeorge4156
    @nicholasgeorge4156 Год назад +1

    I saw Dave grohl in foo fighters back in 2018. It was my last concert before COVID started. And possibly in ghost when they opened for Iron Maiden but it’s not confirmed If Dave was performing then.

  • @paulhookey9074
    @paulhookey9074 Год назад

    Bro your amazing. Thanks to you I just learned that fill.

  • @dcase20
    @dcase20 Год назад

    Kick ass jam room! I love your video games!!

  • @fliproleluwu5602
    @fliproleluwu5602 Год назад

    I didn't even knew that was a rudiment! I learned that song by ear and it took some time to learn the fills but I got it and since, I've been adding that same fill to a lot of time of practice. Now that I know that was a rudiment, kinda wanna know what other rudiments I've been playing without knowing.
    Thx for the video, very explicative, loved it!

  • @TheJorgen99
    @TheJorgen99 Год назад

    I just bought a drum set and earlier today I listened to this song and thinking how cool this fill is. What a coincidence to find your video now. Or wait…😂😮

  • @mazklassa9338
    @mazklassa9338 Год назад

    You are a fantastic teacher

  • @babylonfell
    @babylonfell Год назад +4

    You have to check out the Killing Joke record Dave Grohl played drums on. It’s a killer!

    • @jimreed2138
      @jimreed2138 Год назад +1

      Grohl side project Probot he drums on the entire album with different lead singers. Lemmy and Jack Black to name a few.

    • @aperezto
      @aperezto 3 месяца назад

      ​@@jimreed2138with juliette and the licks he made a great job as well

  • @XtremeKillah101
    @XtremeKillah101 Год назад +2

    MIKEEEE PLEASE DO A ART OF GUITAR VIDEO FOR JOSH HOMME!!

  • @chadkent1241
    @chadkent1241 Год назад

    When I was a touring drummer with Atomship, I always put the mic stand behind me and to the left. It seemed to be the most out of the way plus I could swing it back and fourth as needed.

  • @opiedrums
    @opiedrums Год назад

    The guitar player from messugha came up with the part first. Thomas actually states that riff is what made him develope his playing to what it is today.

  • @LordBaktor
    @LordBaktor Год назад

    I like a herta based fill from a Nightwish song called Stargazers, at the end of the verse. The drummer does four hertas on the snare but as 16th notes, so he ends up filling three beats of the measure and then just does the last beat as regular 16th notes on the toms. It sounds pretty epic.

  • @just_ppe
    @just_ppe 3 месяца назад

    drums + arcades..dream setup :)

  • @retronemesis7064
    @retronemesis7064 Год назад +1

    Bass line in that song is sick

  • @mickbrown815
    @mickbrown815 Год назад

    Had no idea you played drums awesome. I’m in reverse drummer all my life and picked up the guitar 8 years ago after Dave explained how he started playing guitar.

  • @OlinKreutzRules
    @OlinKreutzRules Год назад +1

    @4:12 Has a little bit of Iron Maiden’s Where Eagles Dare to it!!!!

  • @pookachu64
    @pookachu64 Год назад

    2:28 that’s a great way of learning these concepts

  • @jravell
    @jravell 10 месяцев назад

    2:23 That’s really interesting, because I remember hearing that this was a Lamborghini exhaust. I think it was even Alex who told the story , and I think it was Eddie’s car.
    But you’re right, those are hertas.

  • @terric703
    @terric703 Год назад

    Herta!!! Holy crap that helped. Thank you!

  • @TwoandaHater
    @TwoandaHater Год назад +2

    The herta just makes those 4 hits sound more musical (to me).

  • @richo8767
    @richo8767 Год назад

    "Cold As Ice" actually has a fill containing "Herta" elements at the end of the middle break at around the 2:25 mark. It's an awesome fill

  • @user-oy7gz5bf2h
    @user-oy7gz5bf2h Год назад

    Songs for the deaf is a masterpiece that really influenced me.

  • @ssonicdeafmonkey
    @ssonicdeafmonkey Год назад

    Great Tom sounds bro 👌🔥🔥

  • @flanaj2
    @flanaj2 Год назад

    Perfect deconstruction Sir 👌

  • @lewismaclean8849
    @lewismaclean8849 Год назад +1

    Also, can you please do a breakdown of the song Art of Dying by Gojira. I really want to learn how to play this song, and I trust you the most to explain how to play this complicated song. Thanks Mike.

  • @datsuzei1669
    @datsuzei1669 2 месяца назад

    I find a good way to think about it is by playing 8th note triplets as RRL and then adding the extra left hand in to make it a herta.

  • @HMonk-hd1zr
    @HMonk-hd1zr Год назад

    Another great video thank you

  • @muchomusiclibre
    @muchomusiclibre Год назад

    an arcade with a kiss poster and a drum set would have been my ideal place to live as a kid lol. or now too.

  • @joeespinosa2030
    @joeespinosa2030 Год назад

    When I started karate out of high school I would do a lot of paradiddle combinations when I would punch. Yup you can throw rudiments into a lot of things.

  • @JaMeshuggah
    @JaMeshuggah Год назад +1

    Please keep making QOTSA content and I'll watch it

  • @af7119
    @af7119 Год назад

    I want to live in that room of yours!

  • @dunesbra
    @dunesbra 7 месяцев назад

    Speaking of Alex Van Halen, he uses a herta in a fill in the song One Foot Out The Door from Fair Warning that has been one of my favorite films for basically my whole life. I remember practicing it for hours and hours when I was like 12 and couldn't figure it out. Then I took it to my drum teacher and he was like "oh that's easy, it's just a fast herta." Duh! Lol

  • @sourabhps
    @sourabhps Год назад

    1:59 its similar to the fill Lombardo plays at the end of Read Between The Lies

  • @danstephensen9032
    @danstephensen9032 Год назад +3

    Grohl is the Master!

  • @Bizm4rk
    @Bizm4rk Год назад

    I always played this as a set of triples with the first one flam'd thinking it was a callback to teen spirit. But this also makes sense.

  • @devinftf
    @devinftf Год назад

    Wow! I do Herta fills and I didn’t know they were even a real thing!

  • @SlowerRiot
    @SlowerRiot Год назад +2

    Fun and relevant fact since you mentioned them a few times - Thomas Haake from Meshuggah counts the Songs For The Deaf album as one of his all time favourite drum performances.

  • @nxtlvh
    @nxtlvh Год назад

    I was in the sixth grade parents took me to a kiss concert 1979. an informative in these videos Kick-Ass

  • @zachw2538
    @zachw2538 Год назад

    Lamb of god - Engage the fear machine has that herta on the snare at the beginning build up. i noticed it sounded similar when you played it quicker.

  • @braydenmackie2204
    @braydenmackie2204 Год назад

    To answer your last comment about whether the guitarist or the drummer came up with bleed first, it was the drummer. He was doing a solo at a gig and stumbled on the herta thing. Anyway, Grohl is an absolute fucking animal and everyone knows it

  • @eduh7950
    @eduh7950 Год назад

    How to spot a drummer with classical percussion training from a group of drummers with no classical training? Check the way they hold their sticks :D
    Percussionists hold their sticks with their palms basically parallel to the snare (maybe a 5-10º angle) much like you see conga players or a basketballer would play, while drummers will have their palms perpendicular to the snare and hi-hat, much like a "karate chop" massage motion.
    Try it out and let me know which one you think gives you more control (responses will vary). From a muscle, tendon and energy efficiency perspective, I feel like the way most drummers grab their sticks (like the guy in the video) is inefficient since the wrist's range of motion from the highest point to the lowest is of about 90º, whereas the classical way (like the way you dribble a basketball) allows close to 160-180º.
    Sure you get use to it either way, sure you can do amazing things either way (drummers are amazing, after all!!!), but you're asking your wrists to get used to a motion that is limiting movement to some extent.

  • @muleblues71
    @muleblues71 Год назад

    The intro to hot for teacher you played was Ed's Ferrari being miced up.

  • @josephmatlockjr7005
    @josephmatlockjr7005 Год назад

    That is the wildest guitar I have ever seen.

  • @gabinartigala9970
    @gabinartigala9970 Год назад

    Great vid thanks

  • @nxtlvh
    @nxtlvh Год назад

    Hey the Peter Chris video got my attention I appreciated the way you took up for him or whatever you know. Highlighted this technique. I just wondering if you could do something like that for Metallica's drummer Lars people are saying he sucks suck that's what people say. Thanks for the content

  • @ANDREWFURLONG
    @ANDREWFURLONG 3 месяца назад

    Dudes got the steel rage drum set back there, that’s awesome

  • @MarcoPolux
    @MarcoPolux Год назад

    it´s just a basic fill (as you explained at the begining of the video) but only adding a flam at each first hit.... my very weird internal language, but effective, for this would be "tra-ka-ta : tru-ku-tu" 🥁🤪

  • @sydhamelin1265
    @sydhamelin1265 Год назад +1

    Ha! I had this all wrong. I thought it was swiss triplets, but the feel always was off when I played it. It's just that he's playing so fast it almost sounds like a flam, but no, definitely a 16th note. I could tell the second you played it where I was getting it wrong.

  • @truuuupR
    @truuuupR Год назад

    Recently started playing drums and I can't get my head around hertas. Like playing lots of them quickly back to back I really struggle.

  • @theScienceLabLive
    @theScienceLabLive Год назад

    When i learned hertas, my drumming really stepped up a level.

  • @mposh
    @mposh Год назад

    The 3:47 section sounds similar to Frankenstein by Edgar Winter.

  • @anorexorc1st
    @anorexorc1st 7 месяцев назад

    It’s a Herta! Very simple rudiment. But very effective when properly placed, and done right.
    Yes. All cymbals were overdubbed. No cymbals or hats were used in basic tracking.
    Dave used electronic drum pads as space fillers.
    Then dubbed them all in.

  • @Danumurti18
    @Danumurti18 Год назад

    Yess, I was also confused with that fill. It's not triplet nor straight 16/4. Thanks to figure it out!

  • @AllofJudea
    @AllofJudea Год назад

    QOTSA is such a great band, it's a shame that No One Knows is the only song people know.

  • @GaryHubbs
    @GaryHubbs Год назад

    If you had just said No One Knows or QOTSA it wouldn’t have taken me 24hrs to get her lol! That song blew me away too, got that album and saw the tour (but without Dave Grohl)