The difference between cell phone location and data and a vehicle are distinct. Cell phones can be turned off, placed in a faraday bag or adjust location and data sharing services or just not taken. Vehicle data is more comprehensive, cannot be turned off or blocked with a faraday bag and much more obscure in how much and what is being collected or who the data is being shared with. We also don't have high dollar insurance on phones compared to vehicles that can go up significantly or be canceled by data sharing like vehicles.
Executive advancement is correlated with low conscientiousness. A separate incentive like legal requirements may result in CEOs like Satoru Iwata taking a cut, but in the West that basically never happens.
Oh, no, car dealerships are going to have to start gouging their customer to pay for their extortion. Oh wait, isn't that already happening. It doesn't feel very fun to be gouged, does it?
Paying extortion is bad news and will only lead to more of the same. The Justice Department should not let it happen and NSA should assist in fixing the issue.
Thanks for following up on ONE, I was thinking about them the other day. I heard that Lucid achieve 5 miles per kilowatt in Europe, hitting 567 miles on a single charge, their CEO boasting that they on their way on achieving that 6 miles per kilowatt. With that said, their tech and know how will keep them alive. Maybe not as a car company but an arms dealer to helping other automakers with their EVs.
Always heartwarming to hear some people are nationalist and prioritize their brands… but immediately heartbreaking when it turns out to be in another country… well in fact in most car producing countries
I would love to be nationalistic to American brands. But most of em other than Tesla aren't all that American and most of the products are low quality and unreliable. They have been in decline for decades leaving segments and global markets. Chrysler brands aren't even American owned anymore. Better off with the Japanese brands...for now
If you're serious about supporting a US car company, I believe there is one that has the most American designed and made products for sale in the US... Hint... It's not Ford or GM and Stellantis is a European company, so it's not them either.
At an absolute minimum, no data should be shared with anyone whatsoever without disclosure of the sharing. Some delay time might possibly be allowed in special cases, but no permanent secrets.
What is the following distance the automatic braking will require? If it is following the 3 second rule then at 60 mph (88 ft/s) a following distance of 264 ft is required.
Radars pay attention better than meatbags and that cuts the reaction time. I might not notice that the car ahead is stopped or slowing but doppler shift doesn't lie.
Rather than make pedestrians more educated before stepping out in the street, our cars are going to require even more sensors (which makes them more expensive) to adhere to pedestrian protections?!?! A simple fender bender can total a car now… what will this do to our insurance rates and premiums???
Cars are way faster and can be dangerous for those who abuse it. Ignorant pedestrians will always exist, but their ignorance should not cost them their lives. So if you were a lawmaker, what would be the easier path?
@@ryansmithc Better road and street designs that help to safely separate people and vehicles. More and safer crossings for pedestrians. Slower road speeds in more populated areas. There are a number of design changes that should and could be made that would naturally effect all vehicles on the road today, and not just make new future vehicles more expensive and little safer to pedestrians.
CDK hack will be extremely costly for the industry. The effects will be felt in ways we can't imagine now. With no timeline available to restore services, the future is uncertain, and the costs to dealers is increasing exponentially.
Giving up your location is not a big deal. Smart phones been doing it forever. However, don’t make light of the matter if OM are selling your data. They made their money on the car. They don’t need to make their money and selling our day-to-day, driving habits, location, and, sharing the data with lawn horse and advertisers. This dumb channel continues to think that we’re already sharing this information. We don’t have to.
Car manufacturers want to sell subscriptions to advanced features. Then they collect data from the subscribers and sell the data. So they make money on the subscriptions, then they make money selling data, all while invading the privacy of their best customers. How frelling stupid do they think their customers are?
They're taking a cue from the companies that do the same thing with smart phones and apps. These companies are able to scale profits without having to scale costs at the same rate. It creates a whole new kind of post-capitalist economy, characterized by never before seen levels of concentrated wealth. The automakers want to be included among the new Haves, rather than the Have Nots (like the rest of us). Unfortunately, I don't think this new system is stable enough to last long enough for it to really matter which camp the automakers land in. When the rich finish vacuuming up the last few pennies, there won't be enough left over for anyone else to buy anything.
@@davidmenasco5743 They're taking the cue from literally the entire electronics industry. Sales subsidized through information selling is why high end fridges, TVs, and home security systems are so cheap now. It's gross and exploitative but welcome to capitalism I guess.
3-4 day ago I was in BYD showroom in Tokyo mall, I told the Japanese sales man why you people are getting so behind Japan used to be the leader in tech, He said we make very good Gasoline vehicles 🤣🤣🤣🫡🫡
You're right Sean about cell phone usage to determine location. I worked for an auto insurance company as a claims adjuster and we had the ability to tap into cellphone tower records from the cellphone carriers to identify details of accidents by claimants to weed out false claims. We used the cellphone on file, the vehicle's GPS system and downloaded data from the cars computer to determine what happened based on what the vehicle reported via the codes and the times the codes were initiated. Most companies already have your data either directly or indirectly through a data broker. Also if you are on any social media platform your data is already for sale why do you think it is free to join those platforms.
Consumers are not on board with giving up their data? That ship has sailed. Sean is right, as long as you have a smartphone you and your data are being tracked because you are the product.
It is one thing to give up your data in exchange for “free” product. It is a different thing for you to pay a lot for the product and then find out the manufacturer is leeching additional revenue off you but not giving you anything in exchange. They should have offered “free 10 point inspection” of some other BS that would not cost them much and people would agree.
@@rok1475 I bet you its hidden somewhere in the sales agreement along with a bunch of things you dont want to know. Don't get me started on video collection that is supposed to be deleted and can be construed a a privacy violation on private property in some states...
Most consumers today are basically idiots...& buy the latest invasive technology...you do not need a "connected vehicle or anything that betrays your personal life". If they are dumb enough...too bad.
Japan and S. Korea are the most trade protectionism countries the world, while they are more active engaging in free trade agreement with other countries.
What is the following distance the automatic braking will require? If it is following the 3 second rule then at 60 mph (88 ft/s) a following distance of 264 ft is required.
Rivian didn’t change the only change that is worthy of changing, NACS if they don’t switch to NACS they are dead in the water. I would love to have one of these trucks, but there’s no way I’m buying a CTS charging port. Absolutely stupid.
@@BTC_Minarchist my guess is it would change the entire architecture of the truck. I also think they might consider the location of the port as well. The front is a terrible location IMHO.
Rivian is scheduled to make the switch to NACS in 2025. I don't know why they're waiting, but this _is_ in their plans - and meanwhile these other changes should make a huge difference. I'm much more optimistic about Rivian's long term chance of survival thanks to these improvements in manufacturing.
Becuase no one is interested in obsolete ICE vehicles that are destorying the environment. All the action is with EVs, techology - yep; safety - yep; fun - yep; ICE vehicles - same old crap with endless maintenance, dripping oil everywhere, noisy, smelly, slow, and so complex. Luckily Autoline is not paid by the highly subsided oil industry.
I’m watching a bunch of these in a row and ZF is really being featured a lot. I’m glad u mention they are a sponsor but it’s starting to seem like the ZF show :(
Styling may not be VW's main problem. Keeping up technologically and doing it profitably under an existing debt load is a bigger puzzle to solve I think. It is not easy unless you have Mercedes pricing power-then it's easy.
Teslas already meet these stopping parameters as well as a variety of other accident maneuvers. The other guys are complaining that they can't do it by 2029? Amusing.
Tesla Headline News: Two more CyberBust recalls! Legacy EV manufacturer with fired QA team strikes again! Adrian BOM'd the wiper motor to failure! Watch out for flying trim pieces! Dog mode broken! Hardcore legal team needs help in Delaware!
The difference between cell phone location and data and a vehicle are distinct. Cell phones can be turned off, placed in a faraday bag or adjust location and data sharing services or just not taken. Vehicle data is more comprehensive, cannot be turned off or blocked with a faraday bag and much more obscure in how much and what is being collected or who the data is being shared with. We also don't have high dollar insurance on phones compared to vehicles that can go up significantly or be canceled by data sharing like vehicles.
A lot of cars that use the 2g cell phone network no longer work as all the 2g towers were taken down.
Why don’t the stellantis top brass take a 30% pay cut instead of trying to squeeze all the small mom and Pop shops that make their parts for the cars
I agree with you
Executive advancement is correlated with low conscientiousness. A separate incentive like legal requirements may result in CEOs like Satoru Iwata taking a cut, but in the West that basically never happens.
The same automakers who are complaining about China didn't do much to support companies like ONE. What did you expect?
wrgg
Oh, no, car dealerships are going to have to start gouging their customer to pay for their extortion. Oh wait, isn't that already happening. It doesn't feel very fun to be gouged, does it?
Paying extortion is bad news and will only lead to more of the same. The Justice Department should not let it happen and NSA should assist in fixing the issue.
Japan will be hard market for BYD. And nice to see that Rivian is cutting production costs 😊
Thanks for following up on ONE, I was thinking about them the other day. I heard that Lucid achieve 5 miles per kilowatt in Europe, hitting 567 miles on a single charge, their CEO boasting that they on their way on achieving that 6 miles per kilowatt. With that said, their tech and know how will keep them alive. Maybe not as a car company but an arms dealer to helping other automakers with their EVs.
Rivian - that's a heavy refresh!
High speed braking is high stakes.
@8:45 what a prediction: He will have to report on changes at Rivian in the next day's show
idk, did something happen with Rivian 🤣🤣🤣
With all of those changes, it’s a pity that Rivian did nothing to improve those goofy looking headlights.
Always heartwarming to hear some people are nationalist and prioritize their brands… but immediately heartbreaking when it turns out to be in another country… well in fact in most car producing countries
I would love to be nationalistic to American brands. But most of em other than Tesla aren't all that American and most of the products are low quality and unreliable. They have been in decline for decades leaving segments and global markets.
Chrysler brands aren't even American owned anymore.
Better off with the Japanese brands...for now
If you're serious about supporting a US car company, I believe there is one that has the most American designed and made products for sale in the US...
Hint... It's not Ford or GM and Stellantis is a European company, so it's not them either.
I’m not sharing my personal data with advertisers when I drive my Tesla. But everyone else will sell it with advertisers.
Tavares wants to sell Stellantis to Chinese
That opportunity has come and gone.
At an absolute minimum, no data should be shared with anyone whatsoever without disclosure of the sharing. Some delay time might possibly be allowed in special cases, but no permanent secrets.
What is the following distance the automatic braking will require? If it is following the 3 second rule then at 60 mph (88 ft/s) a following distance of 264 ft is required.
Radars pay attention better than meatbags and that cuts the reaction time. I might not notice that the car ahead is stopped or slowing but doppler shift doesn't lie.
BYD down in Japan and in most places 1st quarter. Every foreign EV sold in Japan reduces Legacy market share. Tesla is now there too, oops.
Japan and Korea have always supported their domestic companies over foreign companies. weather it is dishwashers, tv, game consoles, etc
An 8 speed auto VW? Sounds like they are using conventional automatics again thank God.
That jetta looks so outdated..
No wonder german cars are failing
Rather than make pedestrians more educated before stepping out in the street, our cars are going to require even more sensors (which makes them more expensive) to adhere to pedestrian protections?!?!
A simple fender bender can total a car now… what will this do to our insurance rates and premiums???
Cars are way faster and can be dangerous for those who abuse it. Ignorant pedestrians will always exist, but their ignorance should not cost them their lives. So if you were a lawmaker, what would be the easier path?
A motor vehicle that protects pedestrians in a collision between the two is an oxymoron.
A vehicle that avoids pedestrians is better.
@@ryansmithc Better road and street designs that help to safely separate people and vehicles. More and safer crossings for pedestrians. Slower road speeds in more populated areas. There are a number of design changes that should and could be made that would naturally effect all vehicles on the road today, and not just make new future vehicles more expensive and little safer to pedestrians.
Pedestrian fatalities are a fraction of what they were 50 years ago. It seems like the laws are working.
@@DarkFanOfTheSith All of this has been implemented in big metro cities and it still is happening.
One in five jobs in Japan is related to the auto industry. Japanese are not gonna be partial to a Chinese car company.
China company will hard to compete in Japan.
Unless there's petroleum shortage
BEV ain't as attractive for Japanese
CDK hack will be extremely costly for the industry. The effects will be felt in ways we can't imagine now.
With no timeline available to restore services, the future is uncertain, and the costs to dealers is increasing exponentially.
Giving up your location is not a big deal. Smart phones been doing it forever. However, don’t make light of the matter if OM are selling your data. They made their money on the car. They don’t need to make their money and selling our day-to-day, driving habits, location, and, sharing the data with lawn horse and advertisers. This dumb channel continues to think that we’re already sharing this information. We don’t have to.
Thumbs up for a break from CCP propaganda! Amen! 💉🇨🇳🩸💉🇨🇳🩸
Car manufacturers want to sell subscriptions to advanced features. Then they collect data from the subscribers and sell the data. So they make money on the subscriptions, then they make money selling data, all while invading the privacy of their best customers. How frelling stupid do they think their customers are?
They're taking a cue from the companies that do the same thing with smart phones and apps.
These companies are able to scale profits without having to scale costs at the same rate. It creates a whole new kind of post-capitalist economy, characterized by never before seen levels of concentrated wealth.
The automakers want to be included among the new Haves, rather than the Have Nots (like the rest of us). Unfortunately, I don't think this new system is stable enough to last long enough for it to really matter which camp the automakers land in. When the rich finish vacuuming up the last few pennies, there won't be enough left over for anyone else to buy anything.
Fun fact: That's what every smart TV (which is all TVs in 2024) does right now. The consumer IS pretty stupid.
@@davidmenasco5743 They're taking the cue from literally the entire electronics industry. Sales subsidized through information selling is why high end fridges, TVs, and home security systems are so cheap now. It's gross and exploitative but welcome to capitalism I guess.
@@ethanwelner1230 my smart tv no longer gets updates from the age of it so it is no different than a dumb tv now.
They think customers are about as stupid as they have repeatedly proven to be.
3-4 day ago I was in BYD showroom in Tokyo mall, I told the Japanese sales man why you people are getting so behind Japan used to be the leader in tech, He said we make very good Gasoline vehicles 🤣🤣🤣🫡🫡
You're right Sean about cell phone usage to determine location. I worked for an auto insurance company as a claims adjuster and we had the ability to tap into cellphone tower records from the cellphone carriers to identify details of accidents by claimants to weed out false claims. We used the cellphone on file, the vehicle's GPS system and downloaded data from the cars computer to determine what happened based on what the vehicle reported via the codes and the times the codes were initiated. Most companies already have your data either directly or indirectly through a data broker. Also if you are on any social media platform your data is already for sale why do you think it is free to join those platforms.
Consumers are not on board with giving up their data? That ship has sailed. Sean is right, as long as you have a smartphone you and your data are being tracked because you are the product.
It is one thing to give up your data in exchange for “free” product.
It is a different thing for you to pay a lot for the product and then find out the manufacturer is leeching additional revenue off you but not giving you anything in exchange.
They should have offered “free 10 point inspection” of some other BS that would not cost them much and people would agree.
@@rok1475 I bet you its hidden somewhere in the sales agreement along with a bunch of things you dont want to know. Don't get me started on video collection that is supposed to be deleted and can be construed a a privacy violation on private property in some states...
Consumers don't want their datas shared......BUUUUUUUUT consumers post EVERY STUPID THINGS in TIK TOK, INSTA, X, FACEBOOK.....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Most consumers today are basically idiots...& buy the latest invasive technology...you do not need a "connected vehicle or anything that betrays your personal life". If they are dumb enough...too bad.
Japan and S. Korea are the most trade protectionism countries the world, while they are more active engaging in free trade agreement with other countries.
Sean your comment "if the systems work?" When referring to the Nitza regulations for emergency automatic braking is a big thumbs down!
NHTSA
What is the following distance the automatic braking will require? If it is following the 3 second rule then at 60 mph (88 ft/s) a following distance of 264 ft is required.
Rivian didn’t change the only change that is worthy of changing, NACS if they don’t switch to NACS they are dead in the water. I would love to have one of these trucks, but there’s no way I’m buying a CTS charging port. Absolutely stupid.
Pretty surprised they didn't make the change, especially given the amount of improvement they made. Why wait?
@@BTC_Minarchist my guess is it would change the entire architecture of the truck. I also think they might consider the location of the port as well. The front is a terrible location IMHO.
@@GET2222 agree on the port location
@@BTC_Minarchist in my opinion, lack of NACS is the only reason not to get it.
Rivian is scheduled to make the switch to NACS in 2025.
I don't know why they're waiting, but this _is_ in their plans - and meanwhile these other changes should make a huge difference. I'm much more optimistic about Rivian's long term chance of survival thanks to these improvements in manufacturing.
The future is all electric.
Never been to the USA?
Electric trains*
There’s no future
@@oldrrocrusa is a wild wild west.
They still ride horses 😂
@@oldrrocr I live in the u.s in a state that has 15% of new car sales EVs.
Hey Autoline, if only 10% of the market is EV why is 90% of your content EV?
Becuase no one is interested in obsolete ICE vehicles that are destorying the environment. All the action is with EVs, techology - yep; safety - yep; fun - yep; ICE vehicles - same old crap with endless maintenance, dripping oil everywhere, noisy, smelly, slow, and so complex. Luckily Autoline is not paid by the highly subsided oil industry.
@@tesla_tap No one is interested in ICE vehicles? Only 90% of the market according to the numbers. Nice try Karen.
Here's some breaking news, engineers have performed a multitude of calibrations on "laptops" for decades now! 😂
I’m watching a bunch of these in a row and ZF is really being featured a lot. I’m glad u mention they are a sponsor but it’s starting to seem like the ZF show :(
Wow! VW partners with Rivian...big news and a huge cash infusion for Rivian.
I guess EVs are not dead after all 😂
Can anyone imagine the price of a 1st gen Rivian next year after all these updates? :)
Volkswagen needs to bring back Walter de Silva to redesign their models…
Styling may not be VW's main problem. Keeping up technologically and doing it profitably under an existing debt load is a bigger puzzle to solve I think. It is not easy unless you have Mercedes pricing power-then it's easy.
4:50 the dealer software is 20 years old and full of bugs. This is the dealerships own fault for scrimping on software security.
Designing for security and having reliable backups cost money. Now they are paying for it - just not as expected.
"It's all about keeping it affordable because that's what people want"😂 makes laugh. As if it a choice .
Yeah, when are we gonna get that choice?
Teslas already meet these stopping parameters as well as a variety of other accident maneuvers. The other guys are complaining that they can't do it by 2029? Amusing.
😂😂😂 Tesla what a joke!
😂😂😂
Riivian be talkin' to Apple.
Guess again!
Tesla Headline News: Two more CyberBust recalls! Legacy EV manufacturer with fired QA team strikes again! Adrian BOM'd the wiper motor to failure! Watch out for flying trim pieces! Dog mode broken! Hardcore legal team needs help in Delaware!
Lol
How’s the cyber attack going?
Selling cars with Pen and Paper must be quite annoying.
@@Alexzw92 Pen and paper beats forced arbitration any day!
Another Starship Pooper physical recall failure? Luckily there are only less than 12k to recall. Wait, at 1000 per week, wait, what?
Give it up. You a Ford owner? Most recalled vehicle of all time
byd should just sell the 10k car in japan
With a 120% tariff they'd still undercut USA offerings.