Meet Kevin Kelley: The Coach Who Never Punts
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- In Little Rock, Arkansas, the Pulaski Academy Bruins play the game of football differently than you've ever seen before.
They don't punt.
They onside kick every time.
And they always go for two.
Kevin Kelley, the architect of the system, studied years and years worth of data and implemented the system with absolute success. He's won five state titles and has one of the best offenses in the entire country.
Find out how the self-proclaimed "weird mind of football" sees the football field completely different than you and why you might just be another brainwashed sports fan.
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Legend says his wife left him for a kicker.
Aangler 😂😂 not bad, not bad.
Underrated
Kicker And punter are different players lol
Aangler LoL 😂
@@tony2x508 Yes, but if they always go for it on 4th down and always go for 2, the kicker doesn't do much either
Girl: Are you on the football team?
Guy: You know I am!
Turns out he is the punter
Gerry Buckets My school used to have a girl kicker (not too far off position wise 😂)
I played a team last week with a girl....on the fucking O-Line deadass
Last year we had 2 girls on our team, the punter and the kicker. (Middle school level)
randomdude12370 our punter is also our starting 230 lbs 6'4 fullback
Y B we played a team my freshman year that had a girl MLB and she blitzed our qb and our running back broke her arm when he blocked her
He's the people you hate playing madden against
Chris Padilla truee 😂
Chris Padilla Ncaa football
was just about to make that joke hahaha
Chris Padilla I love to play Madden against people who do this. I will usually get a rage quit after I go up 21-0 in the first quarter.
Right....
Backed up at the 1 yard line and needs 40 yards for the first down
Coach: Go for it!
Down or up lol? Down by more than 4 points with limited time left every coach goes for it lol
@Alex V That's a legit scenario. Would this coach punt in this extreme situation ?
Dylan Umpherville if they were close to the end zone they’d probably take the safety.
It WhAt ThE aNaLyTiCs SaY
@@notaname320 yeah no you give 2 pts then give possesion right back.. definitely wouldn't take a safety
There running back is hella fast tho, that definitely helps
keegy0123 every school has a fast running back
Dalton Hale no they don’t.
Dalton Hale not true at all not every high school has a guy that can run a 4.3 like this guy
I doubt they’ve had him for 8 years tho
True, my high school won state mostly because of our running back. A giant, but still crazy fast. The plan almost every play was to give the ball to him.
We also went for 2 every time and he would just run through everyone.
I bet the punter hates his life
Citrus Gaming
They literally don't have a punter. They pooch kick with their qb
Citrus YT what punter? haha
Citrus YT I bet there is no punter or maybe the punter is just the waterboy
lukus johnson i bet he just asks who wants to kick the onsider this time and whoever has the most creative response kicks
Being that punter would be quite nice. Imagine being the first string punter or kicker for a state champion team without ever having to lift a finger.
It would be so fun to play on this team
Jacob P it's not.. I promise lol
+Jacop P yep, it's fun until you realize coach has you as punter for all 4 years of high school
Nick Hodges Actually it is I promise
unless you played a defensive position
Jacob P i hated playing PA in 9th grade cause they did this too not as often but they always went for 2 and 50% of the time they onside kicked it and i swear they got it every damn time.
Coach plays too much madden
King Meninist ikr
Tyron Smith #77hunnit #bestOT #shutdownOT hey bro I see you on Edps videos
thats what i thought the whole time. this system only works if ur offense is awesome, cuz if defenses stop u, theyre guna score mostly every drive. so if u have a great offense, u wont need trickery anyway
King Meninist made my day
...and who has two state high school championships...Kevin Kelley, and who has none? The answer is your salty, stupid basic punk bitch ass, +Alden McGregor!
If the XFL was smart they’d hire this coach.. if he could get this to work at the pro level his team would draw a lot of attention to the league if they running wacky stuff all game
I'd hate to see this kind of coaching philosophy plague professional football
quentin3581 You think xfl is professional?
@@Rufal we've seen the AAF fail after taking itself seriously... I wouldn't want the NFL like this but it would be fun for a second league to be less serious
@@jedimasterjoe5386 yeah, it's a professional football league
quentin3581 It’s more gimmick then professional
If he was a basketball coach he would make his team only shoot 3s
Owen Hibell half courts
Statistically speaking, either you are shooting from within two yards of the basket, or you should be shooting threes - and the NBA is gradually moving in that direction. That's because the percentage of hits from 3 yards from the basket is about 45%, but its still 39% from three point land. That gives you expected points of .9 from a short jump shot, versus 1.17 from three point land. So if you can't work it in close, pump it out and take an open three.
Matthew Reynolds the prob is if u live by the 3 u die by the 3. If you’re off and keep trying you get behind quick
*Cough* Stephen Curry *Cough*
@@nofurtherwest3474 That's why you do both. :)
Browns need to do this shit
W
lol there's no such thing as a browns fan
***** exactly even if they lose doing this at least they give the fans excitement
Adam Clark wrong, diehard fan right here
This wouldn't work in the nfl
I luv how the other coaches don't hate this guy for what he does but meanwhile I cuss ppl out for going for it on 4th and one in madden
I find it's a pretty good sanity check for decision making in 4th down situations; what does your opponent want you to do? If he doesn't want you doing something, you should probably do it :D. 4th and 1 is overwhelmingly favorable to go for it in every level in football...and Madden downright babies the offense so it's even more so there lol.
+TheMelnTeam - There are plenty of 4th and 1 stops in the NFL.
Blakestefer
The expected value of an attempt is almost always greater than punting, despite that some attempts fail. You are turning the ball over either way, so you're trading a chance at converting for 30-40 yards in most cases. Possession is (usually) worth more than that, unless you're the 2000 Ravens whose defense was so much better than their offense that it actually changed the favorable decision mathematically sometimes :p.
TheMelnTeam this is all determined by the score, timeouts remaining, and how much time is left on the clock. In the NFL it's typically a much better statistical play to punt the ball.
Blakestefer
No, it's frequently close, and 4th in short often favors going for it outright. Not always though.
I wanna see the nfl do this during preseason just for shits and giggles
Joe Sef they don't really lose in the preseason, so they could do that
Yeah
@Joe Smith They dont pay them much for pre season either
For the pro bowl!!
Kevin “look at the analytics” kelly
Salvador Rodriguez This reminds me of john harbuagh😂
"He used statistics" that bull crap. He just used his strategy in Madden😂
Tyler Jansen on god
Okay. Why don't you be a better coach. There has been a debate as to how cautious you should play the game and the people who've done researched should speak about it. If you haven't done any research on it then shut your mouth
Kendrick Mott Calm yo tits
Lol
So if it's 4th & 20 you won't punt?💀
If your up by a few you will onside kick?
*There's something about this coach ..........*
He don't punt
He don't kick field goals ...
I like it !He could be my madden buddy 😏
he can do whatever he wants he plays a lot of madden I quess
"that boy aint right"
Prince Tae Who made your cartoon?
+iShootTooMuch You need one ?
Prince Tae Yea
he is the real life version of Madden cheesers who never punt
Alex stovall Bro I play for Edgewood tigers 14u rn when you play?
Alex stovall random af
i never punt in madden, unless I'm on like the 5, maybe its just black people
Alex stovall Except madden is a game & he's doing it for real
Something came in the mail today boy stfu lol
I wonder what Cameron did to fuck up and owe everyone
Kevin Gonzalez I guess he punted it...got dammit Cameron get your shit together!
yeah fuck Cameron
Kevin Gonzalez ... Lmmfao!! That shit made my day.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kevin Gonzalez he mustve punted
He won 9 titles. Elite college coaches were always coming to practices. Sponsored by Addidas. 17 D-1 commits. It's clear that he was doing something right.
“Sire we’re up 20 with 15 seconds to go.”
“Trick play time”
Seth nahhhh sire>sir
Listen buddy typing a comment... I know you're about to say something about Madden... but listen, you're just not original. There have been enough, give up while you still can.
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3 Name Changes Allowed Every 90 Days das me in nfl blitz
thanks you
How about me on NFL2k, NFL Primetime, Mike Ditka Football, Mutant League Football, Touchdown Fever, 10 Yard Fight, Tecmo Super Bowl, you get the idea.....
He must play Madden
No, this guy is just addicted to madden mobile.
Lmao, you could actually play Hail Mary and then go for 2 every time and win.
YungBoy Royce 😂😂😂
Lmao I never punt on Madden mobile
john mike nor do i
Tbf, the kicking interface on Madden Mobile does suck
Chip Kelly at Oregon - Went for 4th down and two point conversions more than any coach I ever saw.
I notice more teams go for it on 4th down these days than before, and sometimes it makes sense if the team is in the midfield.
Boys it’s simple 4 and 10 is the longest anytime your less then 4-10 and you not on your 30 or 40 go for it
Kareem Hunt would never play for this team...
He loves to punt.
Holy shit that's cold but I love it
Ohhhh that was great
Golden
Random Memer She deserved it
Omg that killed me lol
1 internet point for you
Onside kick every time, lots of trick plays, and never punting.
This is all of us playing Madden growing up. Interesting to see it in action, but this would only work at high school level or lower.
GoldenWarrior7 not really, as the data they analyzed included all levels of competition, up to and including the NFL
CoDWiiPS3Gameplay I understand, I just don't see it working. If you're on the opponent 40, that's too long for a field goal on 4th down, so you go for it instead of punt.
If you don't make it, you give the other team a short field to operate with. And give elite guys like Luck, Brady, or Roethlisberger a short field time and time again, and it's game over for your defense. And if you onside kick every kickoff, you're probably only going to get the ball back a handful of times.
NFL offenses are too good to consistently be given short fields if you keep failing on 4th downs instead of punting, and giving them onside kicks.
Going back to Madden, I never punted as long as I knew I was better than, or equal to, my opponent. Once the settings got put on the toughest level and every yard mattered, then yes, I did punt on 4th downs. Because field position is can be used like a weapon, and pinning an opponent in their own 20 can be as much of a weapon as scoring points if you're a good coach.
CoDWiiPS3Gameplay u can talk about analytics all u want, and although this college professor analyzed games at every level, he never analyzed games that had put the tactics in place. Humans aren't computers or statistics, and good coaches and top notch players would adjust to the opponents weaknesses and change their game in an unpredictable manner
How often do expected onside kicks actually work in the NFL? I would suspect that's a low number, considerably lower than the 25% that this guy gets.
He might have analyzed NFL games, but the key thing to remember here is that in the NFL, fake punts, fake field goal tries, and even some onside kicks, are almost always a SURPRISE. That means that it's so far out of the ordinary that this is why it works. But you won't see an NFL coach repeatedly try a fake punt within a game, because the defense immediately learns to watch for it. Can you imagine an NFL team knowing that your team is "going for it on 4th down" almost every blessed time? That would NEVER work vs elite-level defense and special teams. If it became part of a team's plan to do what this guy does, it wouldn't work, because the element of surprise is the only reason those plays work on the NFL level to begin with. It only works in high school because the disparity in talent is very large, both from team-to-team as well as within your own team. The players are young, inexperienced, thinner, shorter, slower etc. That isn't the case in the NFL.
like real life Madden
Yea that's what I thought when I saw the caption
STORMTROOPER588
😂 Absolutely 👍
STORMTROOPER588 like every other comment
Me on madden
**Everybody on Madden
SpongeBob Square pants I always fake punt its so funny when the other dude thinks I'm punting
SpongeBob Square pants 😂😂😂
SpongeBob Square pants ikr
"Just say set hut and throw it" lol I'm DEAD 😂😱
75% of all comments are about madden
The other 25% are "this would never work in the NFL"
It does work in the NFL though... that's the funny part
Where kickers/punters are far better, and expected onside kicks almost never work?
C B where does it work in the nfl? Who is using it currently?
It may work in the NFL for a while but NFL teams are paid to adapt and it will
Stop working
20 % say number 28 carrie his team
I think I heard the word "analytics" said more times than "football"
So like me in madden
a lot more like 6 man football
Joshua Hall lol
Jon Ramsey Yeah, I always go for 2 on teams where I would only miss one a game max
Jon Ramsey yes
Faxts
This reason this system works is because of the defense. Like the film said, it is in the top ten ranked in the country. So of course with those numbers, you take things like the 45 yard for granted or giving up yardage for granted. Any team without a defense who tried this system would fail miserably.
It said 10 top offense. Not defense.
Still has the same idea behind it.
Mrjohnnymoo1 Any team without a good defense in general will fail what's your point?
My point is, it's so easy for the coach to run his offensive, and special teams setup due to his teams talent alone. I have seen not so great teams make it to state due to an amazing O and D line, but the rest of the team were sorta average. When you have the all around talent that his team has, it's easy to just day the numbers are on your side. A hyper offense football team can still do very good, like the 1980s Hogs.
+Mrjohnnymoo1 it may be a complete team but they were still getting beat before he arrived and implanted his system sometimes the teams lack a system they can excel in he has implanted a system everyone can get into and it works.
Honestly he's totally right, if your a bottom tier team might as well try it
absolutely right they have nothing to lose
man the high school I went to needs this guy. consistently mid tier every year and they have plenty of talent. the coaches I had ran the team like it was a college system and we'd consistently get beat by the crafty teams that would run riskier plays. even though a lot of coaches think about running a system like this, they're all too afraid of getting ridiculed and losing their job. all it takes is one season that was better than the last to change the perception of it.
I feel bad for the punter that made him make this decision.
Hunter Henry, now he plays for the chargers...#WPS
Yung Benji he scored us a Solid TD tonight!! Great player, a good successor to the great Antonio Gates
Yung Benji he's the only player ftom that high school to ever have success AFTER high school
Coy Simpson only .248% of 5A high school athletes get to sniff an NFL field. Only 2% go on to play college ball. One NFL player that most people who watch football know while only being a powerhouse program for the last 8 years is pretty impressive
Nate Sabatowski sure
Yung Benji unless you graduated from south lake carol then I don't know why you'd say that
"Running up the score" is one the most idiotic statements ever. If you don't like your opponent scoring a bunch of points. Then stop them. Plain and simple. If you can't. Coach your team better
Mr Beantown Some teams just dont understand that
Mr Beantown that's what sucks about highschool football. u get all the parents being cry babies saying it's disrespectful to keep scoring while up 3-4 touchdowns....yet these kids more then likely will not play pro football or maybe not even college so every game they take the field they need to go out and play hard and have fun. taking a knee and trying to burn 2 full quarter just to "not run up the score" isnt fun for anyone and I think its more disrespectful to the other team. it's like saying ur not good enough to stop us so we will stop ourselves for u. same for when a kid gets injured on a big hit. all of a sudden the kid who caused the injury is considered an asshole.....that's football!
about the injury thing, the sport should be desgined so there are as little injuryes as posible. at least for high school.
Besides, his system is such that he may NEED those extra points if he has a bad string of plays and doesn't make first downs a few times in bad field position.
Togher01 true but it's still football....there are plenty of non contact sports for kids to play if they don't wanna risk getting hurt.
My high school played against them. We had them flown in all the way from Arkansas into Kentucky for them to beat us - if I can remember correctly - 60-something to 7. It sucked for us and we hated them for that, but man they really are something to watch. It literally is the real life Madden
Haha I have to play them every year -.-
Enraged Quitter haha your nsme goes well with it
I wish we could of played them. That trick play crap would of been the death of them. You can't get away with trick plays against a disciplined defense. We had one of the best defenses in the country with 3 players within the top 10 in the nation in tackles. I give all the credit to our defensive coordinator. He was one smart cookie and is D1 defensive coach at a great program. If you try that reverse crap they kept running we had a outside linebacker waiting on your ass. I think it would be fun to play "for" him, but Relying too much on a trick play against disciplined defenses would end up poorly for you. Don't believe me go watch NFL football and see how many reverses tend to work out.
Enraged Quitter I bet trinity in Louisville would kill them
they recruit players they're a private school so it's its not really fair to the teams they play in their conference.
Most times, it doesn’t make sense to punt.. Most coaches just don’t have the balls..
Well no high school kickers can kick 50+ yard field goals so ya giving a nfl team the ball on the 45 everytime vs the 20 is a big diffrence
it's actually not, statistically. look it up on SB Nation the video is called something like why kickoffs should be abolished
Also, they have a 25% shortage at recovering the ball, where in the NFL it's closer to 3%
Anthony Santiago The NFL also has different rules for onside kicks
My kicker in high school our kicker kicked game kicking 50 yarders lol. Also he wasn't recruited for some reason...
smokedogsmokey mine can kick fifties fairly reliably in practice
this works in high school. Wouldn't work in college or NFL
Boner Jams basically
Why? The statistics are based on games at all levels and the game doesn't really change because the players are stronger and faster. This is the difference between basing your game on the experience of your coaching staff and the experiences of all of football.
Boner Jams the numbers say otherwise
Ya well all take your word for it. thank you for correcting statistics, lol i almost followed the side of math and proof that it does work, but ya we all will believe you even though you just seen it for your own eyes... and if you actually watch college alot of team have been transitioning into going for it when its 5 yards or less or if alabama is playing the tarheels, alabama will usually always go for it on 4th because they are smart and which nfl/college team do you coach again?
okay tell me which NFL team never punts regarless of the yds needed to convert? defenses are smarter in the pros. its a proven fact
Last time my team didn't punt
We didn't make it and they ran it in to win the game with 2 seconds left😑
Why every video I watch I see your comment?
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Why would not punt it when your up with 2 seconds left
BKG DATA I ask myself that every day
My friend did a college paper on this as well. He is an actuator now (a person who uses extremely complicated formulas to analyze and determine risk assessment and policies for insurance companies). He determined it depends on the plays ran and by the statistics the players have and in how many games they have played. It also depends on similar numbers on the defense. However if every player had average statistics he determined that past that teams 39 yard line, on 4th and 5 or shorter, with a run play (assuming 2 of the previously ran plays were runs) has a 67% chance of working and a screen play has a 80% of working. A slant route 69%, a hook route 63%. Assuming field position is a secondary objective to scoring, and time of possession a third, you have a 87% chance to have more time of possession if you go for it on 4th and 5 or shorter from your own 38 or closer and only attempt field goals 4th and 3 or greater from at least the 12 yard line. You have a 75% chance to have better field position means. Also, given there are no turnovers from either team, you have a 72% chance of scoring more points per possession, and a 77% chance of winning the game. Again assuming both teams have average stats at every position. I applied this tactic to madden and i was 153-6 on madden 25 and 50-2 on madden 15. I would always play as a team with a good secondary and a mobile quarterback. Before i did this i was a slightly above average madden player (334-296 on madden 11). Also always going for 2 doesnt match the statistics of a team that seldom goes for 2 41% vs 54% because the other team better prepares for 2 point conversions, and only about 10% of an entire playbook is usually allocated toward 2 point plays, making it more predictable. Although assumed the same philosophy is applied to onside kicks, the field position you forfeit is worth the chance of getting the ball (27%) which is mentioned correctly in this video.
This is EXACTLY what the XFL should do!
I never punt either. People go out trying to win games and you have to take chances not give opportunities to your opponent
He is bringing madden into real life...
What if it's 4th and 30 on his own 1?
Well they have punted 8 times in the last 8 years and I'm sure that's a time he would punt it
thats why he can not coach any team in the nfl
Not unless who wants to take a safety to onside the kick and get it back on the 40. He might give up 2 points to get a better chance to score a TD and a 2 point conversion. In that situation he just got 6 points for taking a safety.
It probably depends on the score
you give up the ball too when you have a safety you don't get it back
I wud def join the team as a kicker
The jerseys look the same to the girls🤷♂️
Showtime123 fair enough and you get to hit up the cheerleaders on the sidelines the whole game
The kicker actually does shit though, the punter is the position you want.
Showtime123
lol they actually do have a female kicker
This week PA scored 61 in the first quarter. 4 recovered onside kicks. 2 kickoff returns for td and one interception.
The High School I graduated from won a State Title last season and they only ran the ball all season. Literally, I believe they had no Pass Td's last season. Every play was a rush
anthony alvarez our school does almost the same thing, we're on a 37 game win streak right now
Glory Stays my school has always been a run first school, we had a running back at Washington, Colorado, SDSU, some up in Fresno, Iowa, UNLV.
anthony alvarez our school adopted that method with our new coach, we run because at our level it's basically guaranteed yards. Last year we had running back get a scholarship from Harvard, and we have a few people trying to get into some D1 colleges. I can give you their HUDL if you want
A lot of high schools do that because the QBs and WR are trash
anthony alvarez my high school is famous for its run game
this actually makes a lot of sense. you get to use the 3rd down to shorten up the yards to go til the 1st down for the 4th down. anything longer than 3rd n 3/4 is usually an automatic pass while a team will definitely run the ball at least one of the 1 of the 1st 2 downs, 90% of the time. this gives you the opportunity to mix it up on the traditional 3rd n 5-8. and especially if youre passed the 50 bc how many high schoolers van accurately place the ball inside the 20 or consistently punt the ball 40 yards? not many and anything less than a 35-40 yard punt is just useless
4th and goal on the 25 yard line, down by two with 2 seconds left in the game. Field goal?
My name is Kevin Kelley and welcome to Jackass.
Seamus Hargrave Well... "Analytics analytics analytics, obviously if you look at the analytics." Go for it!
I think this guy just uses the word analytics to justify his ballsyness.
"We can run it"
seamush I mean no shit. The analytics on that play says you should kick it
Nah go for it
This guy is frickin awesome. Fearless and awesome. Love his white about how if you're going against the numbers you're gambling. There was a Soviet ice hockey coach from the 60s named Anatoly Tarasov who revolutionized the game by focussing on puck control and retention. The same has been done by Pep Guardiola in European club soccer: if the other team doesn't have the ball and you don't give away possession, you're more likely to score and therefore win. Kevin Kelley is just a smart football coach. I hope he gets a chance someday to coach at a higher level!
Of all the great SEC coaches they asked Brett Bielema😂
To be fair, at the time this video was made, he was actually doing a pretty good job at Arkansas, and it looked like he was turning things around. Then the wheels completely fell off.
As an LSU fan, his teams beat us two years in a row with way less talent to work with. He had his moments at Arkansas, just couldn’t sustain it and got lazy in recruiting.
i dont care what that article he read said but there is NO WAY 4th and 19 in your own 5 is a no punt situation GTFO
lalo924 lol you are one of those morons who say fuck the numbers that show whats been happening im right... you gtfo bitch
michael khoury it's fucking stupid not to punt on your own 5 if it's 4th and 19
michael khoury Yeah, your mistaken, the coach is misinterpreting the analytics. Based on what he is saying about the analytics there will be outliers. A 4th and 19 on your own 5 is one of those outliers. usually outliers skew data, but eliminating that data, you improve the your conclusion. So by eliminating the 4th and 19 on your own 5, you are even more likely to come out on top.
Not unless who wants to take a safety to onside the kick and get it back on the 40. He might give up 2 points to get a better chance to score a TD and a 2 point conversion. In that situation he just got 6 points for taking a safety.
Jeffrey Dagerath Statistics do show you want to have the ball as much as possible. However, the statistics don't work if you give the other team points.
You're up by 4, 4th & 19 at your own 10, 30 seconds left. Go for it, it's the right way to play guys^^
Well I mean you can find single arguments both ways, remember Desean Jackson's Punt Return vs the Giants?
Wasn't that a kick return?
Nope Punt, there's a reason Giants fans hate Matt Dodge (as a Patriots Fan I love watching the Giants lose)
readonly pdf Are you talking about the gamewinning return by D-Jax from the comeback led by shady mccoy and Mike Vick?
Yep
This guy is smart and the numbers don't lie. I coached middle and high school ball for a while. I hated to get scored on by punt or kickoff returns so the goal was to kick the ball out of bounds every time and the scoring stopped. Those are demoralizing plays that can cause teams to give up. Plus I hoped that they would kick to us because the kid I had returning kicks was good for a TD on a punt or kickoff or both on nearly every game.
Randy Winton kkh
Randy Winton You intentionally kick off out of bounds and take a huge penalty just to avoid the low possibility of a kick return? How slow are the guys you have on special teams?
Thomas L. Either out of bounds or as close to our sideline as possible, never to their sideline. If it goes out of bounds then there's a 10 yd penalty and the ball starts around the 35 or 40. Most kids if not taught properly will try to field the ball near the sideline and they have less of a chance of getting a good return.
+Randy Winton its not "around the 35 or 40" its only the 40 years line that's the rule no matter where it is kicked out it is always put on the 40
Different in different states
Let me guess. He blitzes the shit out of every team too?
Pinch buck o
He doesn’t actually
This is like being 9 and playing NCAA 12 on ur ps3
This guy would make a great nfl coach. Even if he doesn't get a winning record he sure as hell would make it entertaining to watch.
Yep, I'm sure people thought Chip Kelly would make an interesting NFL coach and look at him hahaa xD
4 and 20 on your own 5 yard line, and no punt? yeah right.... .
rastaewabeach you saying nobody in football can throw a 20 yard pass or run the football for 20 yards? thats what this coach can do if you have perfected and practiced time and time again you can beat the odds at 4th and 99. By throwing that perfect pass or handing off that perfect run. Thats why football is amazing.
It doesn't matter if it's possible, it's highly unlikely, you punt in that situation.
rastaewabeach That's why this coach is fucking stupid
+M.L you're dumb as shit. Lmao
I go to that school and we don't punt
I can see a failing FBS team picking this coach up
And now he’s breaking records in college
Our team never kicks any field goals because they are "unecessary"
This is why we dont have any state wins in football
@serpico I think he's talking about his own team, not Pulaski Academy.
@@timgraf6320 Yeah, We play 8 man because we are a small school
lmao. chip Kelly was an analytical approach as well. 😂
DRINKING GAME - TAKE A SHOT EVERYTIME SOMEONE SAYS ANALYTICS
he would get beaten down in the nfl and fired in the first three games.
i mean the browns gotta try something to win traditional nfl play isn't doing why not like he said you have nothing to lose your already losing
it works for high school but when you face a defense like the broncos the you are done
vaganci v agreed but maybe the browns wont go 0/16 they might get 1 or 2 wins if they try it
vaganci v Broncos isn't even that good.
broncos defeated the best offense in the nfl with the mvp qb and also defeated bellicheck and brady all by playing defense
I like this way of thinking. I saw some analytics once that made a good case that it's more important to have a good glove at first base than a good bat. Anyone can catch a ball that's thrown straight and level, but a guy who can scoop the ball out of the dirt and prevent a few E5's and E6's each game is going to prevent more runs for the other team than a big bat will produce for yours. Good gloves are also cheaper than good bats, so you'll have more money to spend on the mound.
Take it from someone who lives 45 minutes away from this team, they are extremely hard to beat. They’ve won state 4 times in a row. Meanwhile my team has only made to the semi’s! Great coach!
The human embodiment of every madden player
The on-side Kick recovery is nearly extinct in the NFL thanks to recent safety related rule-changes 🤔
What's he's saying makes sense .. people probably just don't want to hear it ..
"If we're better at 2 pointers then your going to have to chase us . And your not going to be ready to go for two Everytime"
...that's a good strategy
I love it that theres a guy with balls as big as his. A trick play on every down and never punting and onside kicks after every touchdown makes for one wild show and bigtime scores.
Oh great he just reminded me of every five-year-old i play on madden
Going for it on 4th and 19 on your 5 yard line can not possibly be in line with analytical evidence.
Might be when you average 25 yrds a punt.
Video says 8 punts in 8 years. So they do punt. But not 8 times a game.
What I love is yesterday the Cardinals were up 20 on Washington and Kingsbury decided to go for it on 4th and 1from their own 30. The Cardinals converted and while they didn't end up scoring I thought it was the right call. This morning on the radio the local radio guys, while praising Kinsbury's "genius", emphasized you can't go for it there, you punt. Their argument was you're up 20, your defense is pitching a shutout and the offense is playing well, you don't take chances like that. To me that's stupid, you're up 20, your defense is playing well, your offense has been moving the ball, you have Kyler Murray who gives you so many options, of course you go for it for the same reasons these guys think you shouldn't. If you believe in your defense they can hold them to a field goal and if you have faith in your offense you should be able to come up with one yard. So many people just won't let go of the old conservative ways of thinking. As a Cardinals fan we've been playing conventional football for a long time and it's resulted in no Super Bowl wins so screw playing conventional football.
As someone who lives in Arkansas at a school who is in the same conference as PA and has a few friends who go there, it also helps that they're a private school who can recruit players to play for them... so part of their dominance is just because they have the better players.
“Just say set-hut and throw it” sums up this video lol
Shoot shit hunter Henry played here! He is having a great season for the chargers
get this guy to be the head coach of the browns!
Mod Mark need more than that
Jay Burrows n
Mermaid Man ppl said the same thing about the read option.....this tactic would work for a yr or two & then ppl would catch up to speed
j _taylor but specifically the browns need more than that
Matthew Wysocki 2 years later and this is still extremely relevant
Their Running Back So Fast It Looks Like He Laggin Forward.
You know what's more important than field positions? Possessions. The other team can't score if they can't get the ball.
It's pretty sad that his Presbyterian job didn't end well, but I could see him try this philosophy in a lower level of college football because why not?
If you like this style or not you know those kids have a ton of fun and this dudes passion shows that he would be so fun to play for and really just wants to win with his team
best coach ever it’s like he’s living in a madden game
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What does this dude do when safeties happen? Lmaaoo
I agree with this guy so much. I never punt in Madden, and it works out quite a lot. And the numbers show it.
yes, but in the pros the defence is much better than in the hs level. the wrong is open by 5 yards in hs and in the nfl he's open by a yard (except for my Oakland Raiders d)
that's your traditional thinking even though the numbers say that you are wrong.
This would not work against an organized Power 5 college football team. Not even Oregon can get to 50% on 2 point conversions. Onside kicks give up way too much field position if you don't get it (which in FBS, you most likely won't get it). And not punting gives up even more. This probably can work in high schools and maybe a few very small colleges. But if anyone in the NFL or Power 5 of CFB did this, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot and that coach would be fired immediately. Alabama is one of the most conservative and old school teams in the country, yet they are winning championships nearly every year. Everyone with a brain knows that defense, turnovers, and field position are 3 of the most important things in college football and NFL. By doing this silly method you would be losing the turnover battle, losing the field position battle, and you would put your defense in a very tough situation. I'd love to actual see and read the "analytics" he keeps talking about. There is no way going for it on 4th and 15 at your own 5 is statistically the right thing to do (unless your losing with minutes left in the game).
So no, his philosophy will not transfer into the pros and college like he says he think it will.
I like his essay tho. Makes sense to me for real.
I appreciate your comment and its 100% true. you know your stuff
Liam Pfleegor Perhaps, but that entire piece you just wrote has nothing to do with the statistics and everything to do with your own subjective reasoning. And as he mentioned in the video, they looked over hundreds of games and ran thousands of simulations across ALL levels of playing. And still came up with you should always go for it on the 4th. (Granted with a few exceptions)
Yes I gave no actual statistics, but neither did they. Well I did say that not even Oregon (commonly known as one of the best offensive teams in CFB) can make 50% of their 2 pt conversions. Like I said in my orginal, Alabama is known for being an old school conservative team in football, and they are doing just fine by being conservative. So I doubt they will change what they are doing since they are winning championships left and right. Yes.. that's just my opinion, but to back it up once again: they aren't changing anything and still winning. So I still don't think this coach's philosophy will transfer into FBS or Pros any time soon.
If I have a good defense, I would rather punt the ball and make them try to drive the extra 35+ yards against my good defense. This would flip the field position and could put my offense into good position to drive. If I go for it and miss 50% of the time (which is about the average for most teams on 4th down), it gives the other team great field position without having to do anything offensively.
Btw, they gave no statistics either. They just said "We have run simulations and we determined we should always go for it." Without showing the statistics and explaining simulations (which I touched on in my original comment).
Also, one thing I'm SURE that the simulations and statistics don't take into account for, is momentum. I don't think many people will disagree that momentum can really swing a game in a heartbeat. Just one play can fuel a team and get them going. I've seen it happen uncountable amounts of times in my years of watching college football. And one of the most momentum shifting aspects of a game are turnovers that lead to points. And by going for it on 4th down and missing half the time would be a huge momentum shift to the other team. And yes you gain some rhythm and momentum by converting a 4th down, but ask anyone and they will say a turnover creates far more momentum. No I have no statistics for this, because there aren't really any. You can't measure momentum, which is one reason the simulations are flawed. But if you have watched football, you know about Big Mo(momentum).
Lastly, Georgia State, Oregon State, UTSA, UNLV, Kansas, UConn, Fresno St, Tulane, Hawaii, Old Dominion, etc Have some of the worst 4th down percentages in all of college football this year. They also all suck. I do not think implementing this guys coaching philosophy for those teams will help them since all their 4th down percentage is below 32%.
What if it's 4th and 99?
sewy go how would you even get yourself in such a situation?
howard baxter you keep getting penalties and the other team keeps accepting them. Thats how
This would never work in the NFL.
Highschool - works
College - 23-35% effective
NFL - 0%
"Do Firms Maximize? Evidence From Professional Football", by David Romer: that's the original paper, using raw analytics, for anyone who wants to study for themselves.
So basically he's a madden player that got hired for a coach?
*When the HS Football Coach Kevin Kelley said: “We’re brainwashed into thinking that things are the way they’ve always been”, he made a more intelligent statement than any Professor Emeritus ever did.*
This whole idea came from a paper written by a college professor but ok
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Had the pleasure to watch this team when they traveled to TN to play Ravenswood High this fall 2019. Ravenswood won, but will say it was the most exciting game of football. Completely agree with their strategy.
People laughing, but his former Tight End Hunter Henry was a second round pick in 2016 and is now the starting TE for the Chargers (and he’s been really good when healthy).
They literally play small Arkansas schools and pay players to beat them up
They are the size of a 2A school and because it's a private school they play in 5A. It's the third largest division in Arkansas.
In response to the title of the video: "I'd rather not"
😂😂😂😂😂
OMFG been saying this for years
Ask anyone who plays Blitz 2000
I fucking love this coach!!!why haven’t the world heard more about this man..this man will go down in history as one of the greatest nfl coaches once he decides to go pro..
As a punter/kicker this destroys the point of games because it’s cool to see a kid who isn’t really a true football player clinch a win for a team, and without that, there’s really not that much fun in it