Considering Ash's battle style shines the most with speedy and maneuverable Pokémon, Pokémon that can keep up with spontaneous instructions and timings fast enough to react properly, that's something to possibly take into account. The battle styles of Trainers in the anime is an interesting topic.
Which is why, unfortunately, Turtwig's high potential fell off after evolving. While they did spend some time in the show talking about how Grotle got much slower and needed to learn a new style, but Ash wasn't qualified to teach him that. With Infernape, Staraptor, Pikachu, and Buizel being very agile Pokemon, Ash had a team that leaned heavily in the opposite direction of Torterra. Pikachu and Buizel were even able to practice the counter-spin technique together (Maybe also Infernape, I forget if it learned that). At the time, Ash just wasn't able to keep up with the necessary difference, but I think at this point if Ash spent a solid chunk of time completely focused on Torterra, he'd be vying for a spot on the best team. And that's an interesting thing about Ash. He's always been able to pull a champion out of a pathetic Pokemon. It's just a matter of how mature Ash was at the time and how much the pokemon wanted to be a champion. Paul knew that Chimchar could be a strong pokemon, but he failed at training him. Ash, with a natural inclination to helping abandoned Fire-starters, was able to channel Chimchar's potential. Which is probably part of why Torterra didn't get the full attention he needed; Ash's focus was more on Infernape during that time.
@@josephschubert6561 It also doesn't help that tirtwig was fast, so ash was used to it being his exact specialty. torterra was bulky but slow so he lacked abilities to think around it.
What’s funny about the “aim for the horn” thing is that when the ability lightning rod was introduced, the exact same explanation was used to explain the exact opposite effect, almost like they were acknowledging it
The Taros is the right answer, but which one would Ash realistically use in a battle and get wiped? It'd probably have been the Oshawott team honestly.
Ash's best Pokémon are usually small and speedy, and ones that grow larger and less mobile (looking at you, Torterra) suffer. Ones that were like that to begin with, like Snorlax, don't suffer though since Ash never had to suddenly change his strategy with raising them.
@@LegendaryCaptain some of his more brutish team members also have ways of increasing their mobility, like krookodile's dig. Are the ones that lose their mobility options tend to drop off.
Torterra is a perfect example of evolution not always equaling being stronger (in the anime) yeah sure it does more damage but his trademark speed is is gone and he never really adapted to that defensive style.
Torterra is a perfect example that base stats can destroy a cool scary pokemon...like its atk and def is high with very low speed and low sp. Def too 😑
It would've been cool if Torterra started to dislike the tank play style, thinking it doesn't fit it and attempted to return the nimble one only to struggle because of its weight, and then it would eventually learn Rock Polish.
@@Light12187 Might have Trick Room or even Inverse potential cause I really don't like quad Ice when that's a common offensive type for the sake of Dragon/Ground, Ground/Flying powerhouses. Torterra being asked to take hits now is unfortunate given its size and vulnerability.
At the very least for Torterra at the end, I'm glad the anime finally gave Ash access to one of the ultimate starter moves with his Torterra with Frenzy Plant
0:51 “Torkoal is a pretty okay mon at best” *Torkoal being a semi-dominant threat in nearly every VGC format without Kyogre, especially now that Tera gave it the damage output boost it needed:*
This was before Torkoal had Drought as its primary ability, whereas in Gen 3 it had White Smoke which wasn't so useful at all in battle. But I see the irony that you're taking about. It just takes one or a few chances to make a pokemon broken.
I think the problem with win rates when making these choices is that it doesn’t take progress into account. Heracross for example feels extremely out of place given its Sinnoh league battles where it had one of the coolest fights in the league and was one of Ash’s attempts to counter Darkrai specifically because of its skills from the previous battle it was in so while it lost it was used because it was a good counter to Darkrai. I think if you’re going to use them it should be from a smaller range like their last 10 battles.
I always feel really bad for Boldore. Ash was originally going to evolve it into a Gigalith but then the animators realized Gigalith is really hard to animate well due to it being made of so many pointy and specific shapes. Then Ash got stuck with a Boldore that also couldn’t move very much and had to moon jump off screen to make any notable distance. Roggenrola honestly might have done better if it never evolved since it could still run and bounce around
There's absolutely zero proof that Ash's Boldore was meant to evolve. In fact, considering it evolves by trading, I always took that as a sign that out of Ash's Unova team, Boldore was probably the least likely to reach it's final stage. Gigalith's design has little bearing on it's usage with Ash considering the animators have given him far more complexly designed mons like Naganadel.
@@aidanjudd3460 The primary difference is that Naganadel can fly while Gigalith has a very specific walk cycle that I don’t think they’ve ever actually shown. They’ve animated a Boldore walking maybe twice in Pokémon Journeys and it looked super choppy and goofy
Tauros’ win rate wasn’t great but the wins he did get were pretty important to the match at the time. He’s part of Ash’s team in the Orange Island Final - defeating not only the Champion-level Venusaur but also tiring Dragonite out enough for Pikachu to finish the job. Later he loses to Anabel’s Metagross initially but in the rematch is able to match Metagross and cause a draw when both were knocked out. I get the impression if Ash spent more then a single episode with his Tauros, he would find them to be amongst his strongest Pokemon.
I think you should have considered the special strategies that some of Ash's Pokémon processed. Like Buisel counter shield and Ice Aqua jet. Gliscor's air battle master dodge techniques that he used to defeat Paul's OP Drapion. Also, what feats did they accomplish that other pokemon didn't, like Heracross doing damage with sleep talk to Tobias's Darkrai. These made the pokemon stand out despite their poor win rates, and I really think that this should have effected their ranking in this video.
Yeah thats the thing with "Ashs best/worst pokemon" videos, just looking at numbers doesnt do any of these mons justice. These are characters in a story, every win and loss of every single on of these pokemon has context behind them. For many of his current powerhouses, we gotta take into account obviously many losses come from their younger forms where they're weaker and less experienced. And many pokemon with that might lose a lot may actually be super impressive in the context of the battle. Like everyone shits on Torkoal but i remember it giving Brandons Registeel a good scrap before going down for example. Also of course the ever present factor of Ash himself and whoever the opponent is, sometimes kid just gets outplayed and a mon gets ko'd, doesn't mean the pokemon themselves are weak. An example being say, Pikachu getting caught with destiny bond and taken out early against Cynthia. Or a let's look at say, half his sinnoh team against Paul's (or his brothers i suppose) Drapion. Ash was just getting bamboozled during that portion, it wasn't on the pokemon just not being up to snuff.
Sad to see Totodile as a possibility, as it was one of the more fun pokemon to watch Ash use. In some cases this fun personality helped, like the fight with Kingdra (shown) or his ability to dance to really "throw" opponents he was latched on to with his jaws, but it did hinder the flow of his team. A lot of his teammates got confused or (slightly) hurt from Totodile's dancing or energetic tendencies. It would also be fun to see what pokemon were the most useful as teammates adventuring through each region. Which flying pokemon flew and found what Ash was searching for the most? Which helped him swim deep down or fast through water most effectively? Which could he ride to go past obstacles? Who was the best vine whipper/grabber? And also who were the WORST and more often CAUSED problems for the group of adventurers? Anything from causing squabbles to getting lost to delay the groups travels.
Tobias shows up unannounced to the Masters 8 tournament and proceeds to one shot no sell Ash with motherfucking ARCEUS! Then the narrator says “As the journey concludes”. And the Pokémon fandom collectively fuses into a colossal Annihilape and destroys Game Freak HQ.
I've always thought the fact that ash's first few badges were basically given to him without truly earning them is why he had a hard time with evolved Pokemon in general because they didn't recognize him as having earned his place.
Except that's never been a problem? It was only Charizard that didn't respect him enough to fully disobey him. The other times he struggled with a Pokemon was because he was having trouble with them, not them having trouble with him.
I thought that too, until I actually went back and watched the anime. Not true in the slightest, the only time Ash had trouble with an evolved pokemon it was because the very first battle he sent out his Charmeleon into, the proud, Fire Type charmeleon, with dragon flowing through it's blood and fresh off it's greatest victory having just solo'd 50+ executor without a problem- ... it pops out of the ball, eager to fight, willing to listen. And it's sent out to beat a Paras. A paras so exceptionally weak it's never won a single fight. Ash's orders? "Come on buddy, you can loose, go easy on it and hand it the win. I know you can loose! We're cheering for you paras!" This is the exact instant in which Charmeleon stops obeying him. He was willing to respect the kid before this, but that insult, which ash never recognized and never apologized for, was unforgivable.
@@PerfectChaos115 Snorlax never disobeyed ash. The problems with snorlax were that it kept refusing to wake up, was so fat he broke the pokeball, and it was a drain on Ash's finances to keep this thing fed. Ash manages to secure 1 years worth of snorlax food by winning a sumo tournament in which a year's worth of food was the grand prize. Once that wore off, professor oak then invented an entirely new 'snorlax feed pokebloc' that has a thousand pounds worth of food inside a single bite. You swallow the tiny bloc and then your gut balloons out as all the compacted food inside expands to it's full size.
@@animorph17 Professor Oak says differently, in fact when he’s lecturing Ash after he got upset over losing the Indigo League, he expressly states that if he had put the time in to be a better trainer, he would have been able to battle with Charizard and Snorlax Also, “disobeying Ash” and “refusing to wake up” are the same thing when talking about a Snorlax
I love that you guys brought up the experience thing. People like to say that out of all the Yu-Gi-Oh protagonists Yuma is the weakest because he has the most losses but he's also dueling characters much stronger than plenty of the other protagonists before him.
Torterra's problem was they intended to have Ash work with it to create a new battle style since it couldn't be fast anymore then gave up on that when they realized he was getting to powerful and needed him to lose if they were going to keep him around and even then had to create Tobias.
When Infernape was training with Ash's other fire types, it didn't even bother with Torkoal I also don't see why the Tauros rampaging all day wouldn't count as training
The 6 Tauros team argument is the equivalent of saying, “but if an elevator goes up with Thor’s hammer, that means elevator is worthy, wouldn’t you agree?”
That ending bit killed me because literally when I saw the title, I thought "Didn't he catch like 30 Tauros in an episode that didn't air in the US? It'd probably be a team of them."
6:15 Not to be that guy, but thanks to Lumiose Trainer Zac's rewatch of the series, we do now know that Pidgeotto got a win against Giovanni's Rhydon in the Viridian Gym. Granted, the Rhydon was being controlled by Jessie and James at the time, but when Pidgeotto one-shot it with double edge before it could send out a single move, I don't think that matters much.
I saw the bit at 4:51 and it got me thinking, how many of these losses are *actually* the Pokémon's fault? Of course, a Totodile is going to have no chance against a Lanturn. More than a few of these losses (especially the early ones) should probably be on the incompetence of the Trainer rather than the Pokémon. There's also the order in which they are sent and how much endurance they have. As Toby said, there are just so many variables.
Gonna have to go with that anime logic though to Lockstin's Tauros argument. Ash's Tauros was completely inexperienced, yet it was able to win quite a few of its battles through sheer tenacity! And even the battles it didn't win, it usually managed to get some good hits in. So, I'd say he'd still have a fighting chance with six.
Hearing Muk be so sincerely considered in this pains me. It's one of the Ash mons with such potential that Ash just never tapped into. Same goes for Palpitoad and Unfezant, honestly- so much potential that they never got the chance to live up to because Ash barely friggin' used them. Like, Unfezant showed potential for battling as a Pidove, weakening Snivy for Ash to catch, but then after that, where was it used? Against those Venipede in Castelia? Against Skyla? Against Roxie? And I think that's it? And Unfezant was who he sent to Oak's in order to get Charizard back, too. Also, I don't think the Roxie battle should count too heavily against Unfezant, because Roxie was shown to just be that friggin' good. Like, she stacked things in Ash's favor as much as she could and still only just barely lost because Pikachu activated Static at the right time. Which, incidentally, is the last time Pikachu ever activated Static, I believe. But yeah- making it 6v3, not healing her team from the last Gym battle (in which her Koffing, the same Koffing that wiped the field with half of Ash's team, had just gotten through thrashing a Gothitelle!), giving Pignite a Pecha Berry just before sending out her ace, a Garbodor with Venoshock! Yeah, there is no shame in losing to Roxie, she was on another level!
I'm glad Talonflame got off the candidates list. Yeah, type wise it wouldn't really help but it was a great battler whose main problem was usually being one of the first mons out.
This makes me think about how people who breed mons for nature basically say "i dont like your personality so im gonna use your brother instead" and its kinda sad
all this makes me wonder how the writers of the series decided what Pokémon Ash/Satoshi would and wouldn't catch, let alone use. was it like names in a hat? a dartboard? a raffle?
Very curious now that you mention it. Of couree we expect starters and general "cool" mon of a region, while others are more goofy or ugly duckling types meant to have a more memorable on screen character. But then there are choices like, Boldore or Corphish which while i love them, Corphish especially, makes me wonder who on the writing team looks at them and says "Satoshi needs one" lol
I think Ash's battle style should be considered when ranking his pokemon. Ash is all about speed and being adaptable, so slow pokemon, or pokemon that can't adapt very well to some situations are just wasted with him. Ironically, this actually explain why 2 out of his 3 turtle pokemon are so terrible
Torterra's biggest reason for being on the worst team would be the REASON for its terrible win rate: Ash works best with fast, agile pokemon who can engage in hit-and-run tactics and/or shoot elemental blasts from a distance while dodging the opponent's projectiles, probably because he's never once taken Pikachu out of rotation and thus his battling style built itself around what the Pichu line (and his many other not-fully-evolved Mons) are good at. Toterra...is a giant tortoise, pretty much the opposite of a Pikachu. And even worse he learned to use Ash's battle style as a Turtwig (since it meshed well with how he already battled when he was wild) and neither Ash nor Grotle/Torterra managed to compensate for the fact that he just couldn't do it anymore. He does fine in unofficial settings like battling wild Pokemon or using his moves for utility purposes or saving-the-world scenarios, but in a battle against a trained Pokemon that's expecting a natural tank to know how to fight like a tank he's screwed.
I think that torterra was losing many battles because of the matchups and Pokemon it went against. Think about it, it went against an Elite Four Trainer's Hippowdon, Volkner's Electivire (which at the time only had moves to super effectively hit torterra), that one busted Drapion, and as a Grotle went up against a Pokemon as strong as palmer's rhyperior. So no, Torterra isn't bad, it did well in most of its battles.
8:42 - The mentions of how much more generally useful flying mon and those with actual arms are than those without is a really good point. I've often wondered about what kind of mon in general would be the best or worst to have around as a trainer on the move from gym to gym, traveling the wilderness and battling frequently. Surely one could train even non-fighting type humanoid pokemon to counter certain types of attacks with a leg sweep or over the shoulder throw, or using the 3rd dimension of space that flight enables more effectively for battling. We see clips of the infamous bellsprout tossing Ash's pokemon around like they're nothing often enough, and mr. mime, a psychic/fairy mon, has had some screen time using Tai Chi in battle as a means of dodging an actual fighting type. And when out exploring / traveling, having mon's with arms would be extra manpower for setting up a campsite. And with a flying mon one could travel much faster than by walking. Athough the technology depicted in the anime has evolved over time to roughly catch up with and in many ways surpass the real world. So now that cars, planes, and trains have become commonplace in the pokemon world, maybe traveling by foot / bike / ride pokemon is less of an issue for all but the most traditional trainers, braving the wild outdoors while on their adventures without the comforts of modern transportation and a room with a bed to sleep in every night.
I love the pokemon anime and anime style battling and i feel people dont talk about it as often I would love to see a video on which moves are the strongest in the anime (quick attack, psychic, sleep inducing moves) Or how strong are each legendaries in the anime (we see the regis have about the same power as a normal pokemon but mew seems to have insane amounts of power) Stuff like that
Im so sad gliscor is considered for weakest team member. One of the standouts in DPP for me. But i guess for Infernape to shine the some had to fall. He also couldn't make use of Ash's countershield idea
As someone who absolutely loves ash's gliscor, the Tauros team is the worst. Also its not fair to solely use gliscors win ratio especially since it had a super huge training arc and was likely ash's 2nd or 3rd best mon in the final paul fight
I think ash typically tends to do better with faster offensive pokemon which might be tortillas problem as well. It's a lot harder to come up with off the wall strategies as a tank and it is as something as small and agile as pikachu.
Win rates overall muddy the waters of the argument. And purely on type also doesn't get you anywhere, if you were actually going to make a "worst team on vibes" you wouldn't even consider Heracross, for example. Not only is Heracross a legitimately strong Pokemon to use in meta with a fairly unique type and great stats and abilities, but Ash's Heracross in particular is one of his more "dark horse" Pokemon. It's like a secret Ace he brings out when the going gets tough as evidenced by him using it to 1v1 Gary's Magmar and Nando's Kricketune, and honestly, if Tobias wasn't a hack cheat character made specifically to keep Ash from winning, Sleep Talk Heracross was the most big brain counter play strategy Ash has ever used in the entire series and SHOULD have netted him the win on Darkrai but it attacked twice in one turn and OHKOd with Dream Eater. Gliscor I think has a lot of variables not mentioned. Its "battling personality" changes and matures throughout the series it's in, by the time DP ends it's on a level where it can battle Paul head on and it takes care of the MONSTER that was destroying Ash's team, his Drapion. All the training with the Air Battle Master really bumps it up in usefulness. Also, Oak's lab works more like a Pokemon Daycare than a PC Box, because we get confirmation hat Ash's Pokemon DO train at the lab, as Journeys confirms Infernape challenged and defeated all of Ash's Fire Pokemon with the exception of teasing whether or not it actually defeated Charizard (which is actually implied, but Charizard is too much of a biased mascot whore for TPC to make look too weak). Regardless, that means Ash's 30 Tauros with a full field to run in and exercise constantly and graze and get treated by professional Pokemon researchers and breeders must actually be fit enough to be battle ready for if Ash needs to call on them. In fact, I doubt ANY of Ash's fully evolved Pokemon besides Unfezant would be on Ash's "worst team ever". Realistically his worst team is probably like Torkoal, Oshawott, Boldore, Palpitoad, Unfezant, and Scraggy. And I know that's a little heavy on the Unova team, but win/loss rates don't matter as much as feats and reliability in some cases, and Unova Ash was definitely Ash at his absolute worst, rock bottom in terms of skill and experience and his Pokemon were trash. Dishonorable mentions to Leavanny, Snivy, Bayleef, and Totodile. If you want a "vibe check" just think honestly "if Ash needed a clutch win against all odds at the last minute versus an actually competent opponent, does anyone on this team REALLY have the potential to?" And the answer is no. That's also what kept Gible out of the dishonorable mentions, as its Draco Meteor fulfils that criteria, and it's what barely kept the rest of the dishonorable mentions off the team.
@@rosheafan Yeah a speed tie for the writers, all the writers couldn't get to writing Ash's defeat fast enough, they all won the race to see who could write Ash's BS defeat the fastest. The one writer who came up with the brilliant strategy to use sleep talk Heracross in the first place after he'd set up the epic foreshadowing for it against Nando clearly called in sick that day.
From what I gather, the issue with looking at hard win rates really does just come down to how the battles were written. Certain pokemon NEED to lose a battle to make way for Pikachu, or the new star of a team. Similarly, if a Pokemon is used often (like Gliscor if i remember right) it's going to lose WAY more to allow for more varied battles.
This would've been a fantastic April Fools video. Spend 14 minutes breaking down his entire squad of Pokemon only to ultimately settle on the 6 untrained Tauros at the last second.
Although tortarra did not get a single win since evolving into ints final form I still think it is a powerful pokemon. It lost bc many of its opponents had elite four levels of strength. In that era of the anime elite 4 members here basically untouchable. Its loss to Paul' drapion and volknor's electavire were the only narratively bad ones.
There's no telling what direction the Pokemon anime is going to go from here on out. But let's reflect back on the experience and Adventure we followed for many years. Thank you Ash Ketchum, for being an inspiration to thousands of us.
I do think it's worth considering with Gliscor, Torterra, Gible, Noivern and Dragonite you can get 5 x4 ice weaknesses. If you give Ash a Sceptilite you can get that up to 6. Now all you need is one pokemon with ice shard and his team is finished. Edit: Wait i forgot about Rowlet, we don't even need to give him a mega to make him fall over at the first sign of snow
Here's my theory on Ash's father, you see in XYZ in the end of the ninja village episode where the elder says the hero from long ago has come to save us once again and there it's show an old painting of Ash Greninja in a shrine, but I couldn't been Ash's unless his father also has a Greninja with Battle Bond aswell
There were a few more factors to consider for making a terrible team, which pokemon were given special training sessions and which ones were left behind to train. Pidgeot did do pretty bad at the beginning of the journey however it was left behind after evolving and only rejoined Ash in the very end so who knows if its been getting any stronger or stayed the same. Gliscore has a similar situation where it got an evolution for a necessary power boost but had to be left behind for special off-screen training so we only saw its best in the Sinnoh league, it doesn't make it any better but it has it leaves the question if it gained anything akin to levels or EVs during its off-screen training.Torterra has probably a worse trade off ever since Ash recruited Paul's Chimchar because it became the most focused pokemon out of the entire Sinnoh team so Torterra was badly neglected as well as Buizel in some degree. A lot of Ash's Unovan pokemon were left unused so it doesn't surprise me if some of them were not fully trained or were lagging behind during Black and White, probably because they were swapped out for type substitutions like Oshawott with Palpatoad but I can't say that with certainty. Torcoal though, yeah that thing is both bad and very neglectful, it would need an ability capsule to gain drought, swap out either flamethrower or heatwave for solar beam, and teach it body press over body slam to make it more threatening but even then I doubt it would be good enough to be considered mid.
It saddens me Snivy stayed unevolved. It had such great potential and is already a great battler. Unfortunately, sending it out against evolved pokemon is setting it up for failure
I will not have this competitive Torkoal slander Torkoal is amazing right up until restricted pokemon pop up in VGC. It's got the super useful trait of being both an eruption user and a sun setter (via Drought). Get it in trick room with choice specs and it's hard to contend with. In addition, it still has useful coverage like earth power and has a little bit useful utility, most notably yawn (sleep is the second best status condition behind freeze if just going by pure output). You can also run body press if you really want to in order to get around more specially defensive mons due to your massive 140 defense stat.
Though Sirfetch'd lost most of its battles. The anime framed most of his battles as doing a LOT of damage to the other mon gauranteeing Ash's win. Garchomp for example took a meteor assault and it weakened her enough for Lucario.
At the time of his reveal, a lot of people were surprised they gave Ash another Fighting type with Riolu/Lucario. The only reason people liked him was because of his vocal cry as Farfetch'd by it saying Come On due to its japanese name being Kamonegi (Kamon~Come On; and when it evolved it became more like Gamon). Moreover pointed out in the anime, if you fully disarm Sirfetch'd, he's practically defenseless/useless.
So, the aim for the horn thing drives me crazy, I know it was before they existed but now that we have abilities and Rhyhorn has Lightning Rod, the horn must be that lighting rod it’s the only part of his body that makes sense as a lightning rod.
Sir Fetche'd was seen more as a supporter and damage dealer, not a winner. remember destroying stealth Rock? going hand to hand with Cynthia's Garchomp? bro went in and I'm sure it supported in many more ways
Will you do a video where u talk about how much Ash’s Pokémons should’ve actually grown instead of the show constantly merging them when it suits the show? Like I don’t like how scraggly got thrown into battle and holding his own despite being a baby Pokémon who was just born (when he got thrown into that martial arts tournament in BW) And there’s def some of Ash’s Pokémon that should’ve evolved long before each series ended, like Snivy and Buizel.
Hey Lockstin! I have a few suggestions for videos! 1. Dislyte characters and what Pokémon type they’d be 2. What Pokémon in Pokémon Café ReMix would be best for working in a café
Hurts me to know about Gliscor it was one of my favorite pokemons on his team when I was young and it's in my top 10 favorite pokemon of all time and used to be my favorite at one point
Sirfetch’d is the goat, he might not have many wins under his belt but he is strong. He was able to defeat Drasna’s Mega Altaria, Rintos Gallade and Cynthia’s Milotic. He was also able to make Cynthia’s Garchomp almost faint now that is strong. Also Torterra only got worse cause Ash wasn’t used to training slower Pokémon and he was going up against much strong opponents. Noivern got barely any battle development cause they were focusing more on Ash Greninja and Gliscor was written to be weak at the beginning, too which he became a stronger battler.
I don't know if you can put any of Ash's Sinnoh Pokemon on the worst team without taking into considering the narrative albatross around their necks that is Infernape. It would be interesting to see how many of their losses are also Infernape wins because it had to look good because it had a sad backstory.
The worst team? Well, a team doesn’t have to be a FULL team. It just has to be a Pokémon in his party. So, with that in mind, Ash’s worst team is a singular Tauros, preferable whichever one has the worst moves and/or is the lowest level out of the 30
Friendship is an active mechanic from black and white until oras. I don't know anything about it being helpful for anything past that. It would affect online battles by slightly altering the odds of certain things in addition to helping with the game itself.
Snivy was the strongest named here , tell me if you agree or not cuz her win rate is one of the best named and she has a lot of potential so if she were a serperior she could most likely be tied with Ash's charazard and his graninja (mabe)
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Torkoal crying, jumping off a boat and slowly drowning was the greatest sequence of events I've seen in a while.
@Joseph McFarlane I like it better without context.
It's literally dual type suicide
He just like me fr fr
He commited suicide
@@erikarsov4365 It's a mood.
Considering Ash's battle style shines the most with speedy and maneuverable Pokémon, Pokémon that can keep up with spontaneous instructions and timings fast enough to react properly, that's something to possibly take into account.
The battle styles of Trainers in the anime is an interesting topic.
Which is why, unfortunately, Turtwig's high potential fell off after evolving. While they did spend some time in the show talking about how Grotle got much slower and needed to learn a new style, but Ash wasn't qualified to teach him that. With Infernape, Staraptor, Pikachu, and Buizel being very agile Pokemon, Ash had a team that leaned heavily in the opposite direction of Torterra. Pikachu and Buizel were even able to practice the counter-spin technique together (Maybe also Infernape, I forget if it learned that). At the time, Ash just wasn't able to keep up with the necessary difference, but I think at this point if Ash spent a solid chunk of time completely focused on Torterra, he'd be vying for a spot on the best team.
And that's an interesting thing about Ash. He's always been able to pull a champion out of a pathetic Pokemon. It's just a matter of how mature Ash was at the time and how much the pokemon wanted to be a champion. Paul knew that Chimchar could be a strong pokemon, but he failed at training him. Ash, with a natural inclination to helping abandoned Fire-starters, was able to channel Chimchar's potential. Which is probably part of why Torterra didn't get the full attention he needed; Ash's focus was more on Infernape during that time.
@@josephschubert6561 It also doesn't help that tirtwig was fast, so ash was used to it being his exact specialty. torterra was bulky but slow so he lacked abilities to think around it.
It physically pains me to know Ash's Oshawott is so bad. But at least it's got a winning personality!
At least people enjoy oshawott. Tepig gets no love
@@IloveHildasfeet To remember it became a Pignite even is too much to ask.
Also that's a disturbing handle.
Snivy: am I a joke to you?
Like Oshawott is so funny to me and it has a great personality, but its undeniable that that guy sucked in a lot of battles
Yeah.
What’s funny about the “aim for the horn” thing is that when the ability lightning rod was introduced, the exact same explanation was used to explain the exact opposite effect, almost like they were acknowledging it
End of an era. Thanks for having me mate :D
There is a skinless body behind the Walmart I work at
@@IloveHildasfeet bro what da hail
I would probably get banned if i said what i wish bird keeper toby did to me
Super happy to see you two together again. Hope it won’t be long before we see it again!
I love how two of my favourite RUclipsrs have collaborated to create this awesome video.
Ash’s Unova team had so much potential to be good but they just HAD to stay unevolved
At least his Krookodile and Leavanny carried
@@cold-bloodedbeats4139 pignite too believe it or not, and as well as Snivy for some parts.
It doesn’t help that Ash him self was especially stupid in Unova
Well Ash got an inspiration in the first episode. Imagine a Lv 999 Pikachu lost to a Lv 5 Snivy.
Shut up cat go tell some Japanese high school kid on probation to go to bed
The Taros is the right answer, but which one would Ash realistically use in a battle and get wiped? It'd probably have been the Oshawott team honestly.
We do not even know if the win-loss ratio is from the same Tauros.
Ash taros won a taros competition also it tie with a frontier brain pokemon. Side note frontier brain are say to on par with elite four.
@@thenameless7810 But is it the same Tauros?
There is always a chance that fissure could hit 6 times, considering Ash's plot armor
Ash's best Pokémon are usually small and speedy, and ones that grow larger and less mobile (looking at you, Torterra) suffer. Ones that were like that to begin with, like Snorlax, don't suffer though since Ash never had to suddenly change his strategy with raising them.
If you think about it a lot of Ash's best starters are the fast ones of each region: Charizard, Sceptile, Infernape and Greninja
True, in terms of team building; Ash seems to lean towards Pokémon that hits fast and hard more with the slow defensive ones being used less often.
i mean... do kids, *really* want to see ash walk up to the championship with ferropex?
actually that does sound funny.
@CatD also in the case of brute pokemon of Ash's who actually are strong aka Snorlax and Krookodile they were already naturally strong from the get go
@@LegendaryCaptain some of his more brutish team members also have ways of increasing their mobility, like krookodile's dig. Are the ones that lose their mobility options tend to drop off.
Torterra is a perfect example of evolution not always equaling being stronger (in the anime) yeah sure it does more damage but his trademark speed is is gone and he never really adapted to that defensive style.
Torterra is a perfect example that base stats can destroy a cool scary pokemon...like its atk and def is high with very low speed and low sp. Def too 😑
It would've been cool if Torterra started to dislike the tank play style, thinking it doesn't fit it and attempted to return the nimble one only to struggle because of its weight, and then it would eventually learn Rock Polish.
@@Light12187 Might have Trick Room or even Inverse potential cause I really don't like quad Ice when that's a common offensive type for the sake of Dragon/Ground, Ground/Flying powerhouses.
Torterra being asked to take hits now is unfortunate given its size and vulnerability.
At the very least for Torterra at the end, I'm glad the anime finally gave Ash access to one of the ultimate starter moves with his Torterra with Frenzy Plant
It beaks my heart...
0:49 Not Lockstin being unaware that Torkoal has been one of the biggest OU staples for gen 8 and 9 💀
0:51 “Torkoal is a pretty okay mon at best”
*Torkoal being a semi-dominant threat in nearly every VGC format without Kyogre, especially now that Tera gave it the damage output boost it needed:*
This was before Torkoal had Drought as its primary ability, whereas in Gen 3 it had White Smoke which wasn't so useful at all in battle. But I see the irony that you're taking about. It just takes one or a few chances to make a pokemon broken.
I think the problem with win rates when making these choices is that it doesn’t take progress into account. Heracross for example feels extremely out of place given its Sinnoh league battles where it had one of the coolest fights in the league and was one of Ash’s attempts to counter Darkrai specifically because of its skills from the previous battle it was in so while it lost it was used because it was a good counter to Darkrai.
I think if you’re going to use them it should be from a smaller range like their last 10 battles.
he also defeated Gary's Magmar with a Megahorn while tanking many fire attacks
I remember him countering Darkrai with Sleep talk Gust. And that one of his worst pokemon?
Meanwhile im pretty sure torterra lost literally every battle after his final evolution
@@appelofdoom8211 for real the guy was done dirty asf
I always feel really bad for Boldore. Ash was originally going to evolve it into a Gigalith but then the animators realized Gigalith is really hard to animate well due to it being made of so many pointy and specific shapes. Then Ash got stuck with a Boldore that also couldn’t move very much and had to moon jump off screen to make any notable distance. Roggenrola honestly might have done better if it never evolved since it could still run and bounce around
There's absolutely zero proof that Ash's Boldore was meant to evolve. In fact, considering it evolves by trading, I always took that as a sign that out of Ash's Unova team, Boldore was probably the least likely to reach it's final stage. Gigalith's design has little bearing on it's usage with Ash considering the animators have given him far more complexly designed mons like Naganadel.
@@aidanjudd3460 The primary difference is that Naganadel can fly while Gigalith has a very specific walk cycle that I don’t think they’ve ever actually shown. They’ve animated a Boldore walking maybe twice in Pokémon Journeys and it looked super choppy and goofy
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0:41 How dare you use Krabby for "Objectively Bad", they literally sweeped at the league.
and it was Krabby's first battle too
Tauros’ win rate wasn’t great but the wins he did get were pretty important to the match at the time. He’s part of Ash’s team in the Orange Island Final - defeating not only the Champion-level Venusaur but also tiring Dragonite out enough for Pikachu to finish the job.
Later he loses to Anabel’s Metagross initially but in the rematch is able to match Metagross and cause a draw when both were knocked out.
I get the impression if Ash spent more then a single episode with his Tauros, he would find them to be amongst his strongest Pokemon.
6 Tauros is bad, but using anime logic, Ash would find a way to use all 6 at once and stampede all opponents as they are sent out one at a time.
Oh Arceus. Can you imagine if all of his Tauros used Double Team all at the same time?
Tauros with Beat Up?
6 tauros but each one of them has different moves
Until someone sends a ghost. But hey, at least that's type coverage against all but one type.
That's just using the move 'Beat up'
Lockstin fighting Toby's well-thought out logic with 6 unused Tauros is just hilarious X'D
I think you should have considered the special strategies that some of Ash's Pokémon processed. Like Buisel counter shield and Ice Aqua jet. Gliscor's air battle master dodge techniques that he used to defeat Paul's OP Drapion. Also, what feats did they accomplish that other pokemon didn't, like Heracross doing damage with sleep talk to Tobias's Darkrai. These made the pokemon stand out despite their poor win rates, and I really think that this should have effected their ranking in this video.
Yeah thats the thing with "Ashs best/worst pokemon" videos, just looking at numbers doesnt do any of these mons justice. These are characters in a story, every win and loss of every single on of these pokemon has context behind them. For many of his current powerhouses, we gotta take into account obviously many losses come from their younger forms where they're weaker and less experienced. And many pokemon with that might lose a lot may actually be super impressive in the context of the battle. Like everyone shits on Torkoal but i remember it giving Brandons Registeel a good scrap before going down for example. Also of course the ever present factor of Ash himself and whoever the opponent is, sometimes kid just gets outplayed and a mon gets ko'd, doesn't mean the pokemon themselves are weak. An example being say, Pikachu getting caught with destiny bond and taken out early against Cynthia. Or a let's look at say, half his sinnoh team against Paul's (or his brothers i suppose) Drapion. Ash was just getting bamboozled during that portion, it wasn't on the pokemon just not being up to snuff.
Sad to see Totodile as a possibility, as it was one of the more fun pokemon to watch Ash use. In some cases this fun personality helped, like the fight with Kingdra (shown) or his ability to dance to really "throw" opponents he was latched on to with his jaws, but it did hinder the flow of his team. A lot of his teammates got confused or (slightly) hurt from Totodile's dancing or energetic tendencies.
It would also be fun to see what pokemon were the most useful as teammates adventuring through each region. Which flying pokemon flew and found what Ash was searching for the most? Which helped him swim deep down or fast through water most effectively? Which could he ride to go past obstacles? Who was the best vine whipper/grabber? And also who were the WORST and more often CAUSED problems for the group of adventurers? Anything from causing squabbles to getting lost to delay the groups travels.
I’m bummed about Ash not catching either of the Lati’s but we all know that Ash would mop the floor with Tobias if they were ever to rematch!
Tobias shows up unannounced to the Masters 8 tournament and proceeds to one shot no sell Ash with motherfucking ARCEUS! Then the narrator says “As the journey concludes”. And the Pokémon fandom collectively fuses into a colossal Annihilape and destroys Game Freak HQ.
I've always thought the fact that ash's first few badges were basically given to him without truly earning them is why he had a hard time with evolved Pokemon in general because they didn't recognize him as having earned his place.
Except that's never been a problem? It was only Charizard that didn't respect him enough to fully disobey him. The other times he struggled with a Pokemon was because he was having trouble with them, not them having trouble with him.
I thought that too, until I actually went back and watched the anime. Not true in the slightest, the only time Ash had trouble with an evolved pokemon it was because the very first battle he sent out his Charmeleon into, the proud, Fire Type charmeleon, with dragon flowing through it's blood and fresh off it's greatest victory having just solo'd 50+ executor without a problem- ... it pops out of the ball, eager to fight, willing to listen. And it's sent out to beat a Paras. A paras so exceptionally weak it's never won a single fight. Ash's orders? "Come on buddy, you can loose, go easy on it and hand it the win. I know you can loose! We're cheering for you paras!"
This is the exact instant in which Charmeleon stops obeying him. He was willing to respect the kid before this, but that insult, which ash never recognized and never apologized for, was unforgivable.
@@animorph17what about Snorlax, Ash had problems with him too
@@PerfectChaos115 Snorlax never disobeyed ash. The problems with snorlax were that it kept refusing to wake up, was so fat he broke the pokeball, and it was a drain on Ash's finances to keep this thing fed. Ash manages to secure 1 years worth of snorlax food by winning a sumo tournament in which a year's worth of food was the grand prize. Once that wore off, professor oak then invented an entirely new 'snorlax feed pokebloc' that has a thousand pounds worth of food inside a single bite. You swallow the tiny bloc and then your gut balloons out as all the compacted food inside expands to it's full size.
@@animorph17 Professor Oak says differently, in fact when he’s lecturing Ash after he got upset over losing the Indigo League, he expressly states that if he had put the time in to be a better trainer, he would have been able to battle with Charizard and Snorlax
Also, “disobeying Ash” and “refusing to wake up” are the same thing when talking about a Snorlax
I love that you guys brought up the experience thing. People like to say that out of all the Yu-Gi-Oh protagonists Yuma is the weakest because he has the most losses but he's also dueling characters much stronger than plenty of the other protagonists before him.
Getting some serious nostalgia seeing you and Toby cover this subject again.
Torterra's problem was they intended to have Ash work with it to create a new battle style since it couldn't be fast anymore then gave up on that when they realized he was getting to powerful and needed him to lose if they were going to keep him around and even then had to create Tobias.
When Infernape was training with Ash's other fire types, it didn't even bother with Torkoal
I also don't see why the Tauros rampaging all day wouldn't count as training
I going to miss ash even though it took 25 years to took him to retire, but still we will still miss him.
The 6 Tauros team argument is the equivalent of saying, “but if an elevator goes up with Thor’s hammer, that means elevator is worthy, wouldn’t you agree?”
You know I wish that Oshawott, Rowlet, and Quilava became the Hisuian Forms of their line’s final forms. Mainly since Goh got the Galar starters.
That ending bit killed me because literally when I saw the title, I thought "Didn't he catch like 30 Tauros in an episode that didn't air in the US? It'd probably be a team of them."
6:15 Not to be that guy, but thanks to Lumiose Trainer Zac's rewatch of the series, we do now know that Pidgeotto got a win against Giovanni's Rhydon in the Viridian Gym. Granted, the Rhydon was being controlled by Jessie and James at the time, but when Pidgeotto one-shot it with double edge before it could send out a single move, I don't think that matters much.
I saw the bit at 4:51 and it got me thinking, how many of these losses are *actually* the Pokémon's fault? Of course, a Totodile is going to have no chance against a Lanturn. More than a few of these losses (especially the early ones) should probably be on the incompetence of the Trainer rather than the Pokémon. There's also the order in which they are sent and how much endurance they have. As Toby said, there are just so many variables.
Gonna have to go with that anime logic though to Lockstin's Tauros argument. Ash's Tauros was completely inexperienced, yet it was able to win quite a few of its battles through sheer tenacity! And even the battles it didn't win, it usually managed to get some good hits in. So, I'd say he'd still have a fighting chance with six.
Its nice to see you and toby collab again. Brings back memories of "the end" video series back in 2016.
It all comes together
Using personality for battle as one of the metrics is pretty good. It was the logic behind Ash getting rid of Aipom, too
Funny enough his Aipom kicked ass when it was with Ash. He made a mistake taking Buizel
Hearing Muk be so sincerely considered in this pains me. It's one of the Ash mons with such potential that Ash just never tapped into. Same goes for Palpitoad and Unfezant, honestly- so much potential that they never got the chance to live up to because Ash barely friggin' used them. Like, Unfezant showed potential for battling as a Pidove, weakening Snivy for Ash to catch, but then after that, where was it used? Against those Venipede in Castelia? Against Skyla? Against Roxie? And I think that's it? And Unfezant was who he sent to Oak's in order to get Charizard back, too.
Also, I don't think the Roxie battle should count too heavily against Unfezant, because Roxie was shown to just be that friggin' good. Like, she stacked things in Ash's favor as much as she could and still only just barely lost because Pikachu activated Static at the right time. Which, incidentally, is the last time Pikachu ever activated Static, I believe. But yeah- making it 6v3, not healing her team from the last Gym battle (in which her Koffing, the same Koffing that wiped the field with half of Ash's team, had just gotten through thrashing a Gothitelle!), giving Pignite a Pecha Berry just before sending out her ace, a Garbodor with Venoshock! Yeah, there is no shame in losing to Roxie, she was on another level!
Poor Torterra. That thing was basically sidelined after it evolved to prop up Chimchar and eventually Infernape.
_One of_ Ash's 30 Tauros is among his best Pokemon. Sorting it out from the 29 others he never uses is probably the hard part!
Ash's Sirfetch'd almost destroyed Cynthia's Garchomp, so it really doesn't matter that it has a low win rate. The Duck is strong
I agree
I'm glad Talonflame got off the candidates list. Yeah, type wise it wouldn't really help but it was a great battler whose main problem was usually being one of the first mons out.
Never thought we would get an updated version of this video, even though it makes sense.
This makes me think about how people who breed mons for nature basically say "i dont like your personality so im gonna use your brother instead" and its kinda sad
Imagine if they brought Ash back for cameos, but he never ages
all this makes me wonder how the writers of the series decided what Pokémon Ash/Satoshi would and wouldn't catch, let alone use. was it like names in a hat? a dartboard? a raffle?
Very curious now that you mention it. Of couree we expect starters and general "cool" mon of a region, while others are more goofy or ugly duckling types meant to have a more memorable on screen character. But then there are choices like, Boldore or Corphish which while i love them, Corphish especially, makes me wonder who on the writing team looks at them and says "Satoshi needs one" lol
I think Ash's battle style should be considered when ranking his pokemon. Ash is all about speed and being adaptable, so slow pokemon, or pokemon that can't adapt very well to some situations are just wasted with him.
Ironically, this actually explain why 2 out of his 3 turtle pokemon are so terrible
Now we need MandJTV or PM7 to do a playthrough challenge where they use Ash's worst team
Unfortunately, there isn’t a game where every Pokémon on that team is available
Hurts to see my boy Gliscor here since he's my favorite pokemon of all time.
Torterra's biggest reason for being on the worst team would be the REASON for its terrible win rate: Ash works best with fast, agile pokemon who can engage in hit-and-run tactics and/or shoot elemental blasts from a distance while dodging the opponent's projectiles, probably because he's never once taken Pikachu out of rotation and thus his battling style built itself around what the Pichu line (and his many other not-fully-evolved Mons) are good at.
Toterra...is a giant tortoise, pretty much the opposite of a Pikachu. And even worse he learned to use Ash's battle style as a Turtwig (since it meshed well with how he already battled when he was wild) and neither Ash nor Grotle/Torterra managed to compensate for the fact that he just couldn't do it anymore. He does fine in unofficial settings like battling wild Pokemon or using his moves for utility purposes or saving-the-world scenarios, but in a battle against a trained Pokemon that's expecting a natural tank to know how to fight like a tank he's screwed.
I think that torterra was losing many battles because of the matchups and Pokemon it went against. Think about it, it went against an Elite Four Trainer's Hippowdon, Volkner's Electivire (which at the time only had moves to super effectively hit torterra), that one busted Drapion, and as a Grotle went up against a Pokemon as strong as palmer's rhyperior. So no, Torterra isn't bad, it did well in most of its battles.
8:42 - The mentions of how much more generally useful flying mon and those with actual arms are than those without is a really good point.
I've often wondered about what kind of mon in general would be the best or worst to have around as a trainer on the move from gym to gym, traveling the wilderness and battling frequently.
Surely one could train even non-fighting type humanoid pokemon to counter certain types of attacks with a leg sweep or over the shoulder throw, or using the 3rd dimension of space that flight enables more effectively for battling. We see clips of the infamous bellsprout tossing Ash's pokemon around like they're nothing often enough, and mr. mime, a psychic/fairy mon, has had some screen time using Tai Chi in battle as a means of dodging an actual fighting type.
And when out exploring / traveling, having mon's with arms would be extra manpower for setting up a campsite. And with a flying mon one could travel much faster than by walking. Athough the technology depicted in the anime has evolved over time to roughly catch up with and in many ways surpass the real world. So now that cars, planes, and trains have become commonplace in the pokemon world, maybe traveling by foot / bike / ride pokemon is less of an issue for all but the most traditional trainers, braving the wild outdoors while on their adventures without the comforts of modern transportation and a room with a bed to sleep in every night.
I love the pokemon anime and anime style battling and i feel people dont talk about it as often
I would love to see a video on which moves are the strongest in the anime (quick attack, psychic, sleep inducing moves)
Or how strong are each legendaries in the anime (we see the regis have about the same power as a normal pokemon but mew seems to have insane amounts of power)
Stuff like that
Im so sad gliscor is considered for weakest team member.
One of the standouts in DPP for me. But i guess for Infernape to shine the some had to fall.
He also couldn't make use of Ash's countershield idea
11:52 "Water is the most common type"
I'd blame Gen 3 but Gen 4 added a disproportionately large amount of ice types too.
I bust out laughing when he said 6 un-used Tauros. I wasn't ready for how funny that was
As someone who absolutely loves ash's gliscor, the Tauros team is the worst. Also its not fair to solely use gliscors win ratio especially since it had a super huge training arc and was likely ash's 2nd or 3rd best mon in the final paul fight
10:16 Gliscor is not weak to rock, it is half ground type.
I think ash typically tends to do better with faster offensive pokemon which might be tortillas problem as well. It's a lot harder to come up with off the wall strategies as a tank and it is as something as small and agile as pikachu.
'I do not wish to raise the steaks. I wish to lower them.... Onto a grill.'
that is pretty danged funny.
Win rates overall muddy the waters of the argument. And purely on type also doesn't get you anywhere, if you were actually going to make a "worst team on vibes" you wouldn't even consider Heracross, for example. Not only is Heracross a legitimately strong Pokemon to use in meta with a fairly unique type and great stats and abilities, but Ash's Heracross in particular is one of his more "dark horse" Pokemon. It's like a secret Ace he brings out when the going gets tough as evidenced by him using it to 1v1 Gary's Magmar and Nando's Kricketune, and honestly, if Tobias wasn't a hack cheat character made specifically to keep Ash from winning, Sleep Talk Heracross was the most big brain counter play strategy Ash has ever used in the entire series and SHOULD have netted him the win on Darkrai but it attacked twice in one turn and OHKOd with Dream Eater.
Gliscor I think has a lot of variables not mentioned. Its "battling personality" changes and matures throughout the series it's in, by the time DP ends it's on a level where it can battle Paul head on and it takes care of the MONSTER that was destroying Ash's team, his Drapion. All the training with the Air Battle Master really bumps it up in usefulness.
Also, Oak's lab works more like a Pokemon Daycare than a PC Box, because we get confirmation hat Ash's Pokemon DO train at the lab, as Journeys confirms Infernape challenged and defeated all of Ash's Fire Pokemon with the exception of teasing whether or not it actually defeated Charizard (which is actually implied, but Charizard is too much of a biased mascot whore for TPC to make look too weak). Regardless, that means Ash's 30 Tauros with a full field to run in and exercise constantly and graze and get treated by professional Pokemon researchers and breeders must actually be fit enough to be battle ready for if Ash needs to call on them.
In fact, I doubt ANY of Ash's fully evolved Pokemon besides Unfezant would be on Ash's "worst team ever". Realistically his worst team is probably like Torkoal, Oshawott, Boldore, Palpitoad, Unfezant, and Scraggy. And I know that's a little heavy on the Unova team, but win/loss rates don't matter as much as feats and reliability in some cases, and Unova Ash was definitely Ash at his absolute worst, rock bottom in terms of skill and experience and his Pokemon were trash. Dishonorable mentions to Leavanny, Snivy, Bayleef, and Totodile.
If you want a "vibe check" just think honestly "if Ash needed a clutch win against all odds at the last minute versus an actually competent opponent, does anyone on this team REALLY have the potential to?" And the answer is no. That's also what kept Gible out of the dishonorable mentions, as its Draco Meteor fulfils that criteria, and it's what barely kept the rest of the dishonorable mentions off the team.
Feel bad for Heracross. Must have been a speed tie?
@@rosheafan Yeah a speed tie for the writers, all the writers couldn't get to writing Ash's defeat fast enough, they all won the race to see who could write Ash's BS defeat the fastest. The one writer who came up with the brilliant strategy to use sleep talk Heracross in the first place after he'd set up the epic foreshadowing for it against Nando clearly called in sick that day.
From what I gather, the issue with looking at hard win rates really does just come down to how the battles were written. Certain pokemon NEED to lose a battle to make way for Pikachu, or the new star of a team. Similarly, if a Pokemon is used often (like Gliscor if i remember right) it's going to lose WAY more to allow for more varied battles.
This would've been a fantastic April Fools video. Spend 14 minutes breaking down his entire squad of Pokemon only to ultimately settle on the 6 untrained Tauros at the last second.
Going full troll with the Tauros is just 😚👌🏻 chef’s kiss.
Although tortarra did not get a single win since evolving into ints final form I still think it is a powerful pokemon. It lost bc many of its opponents had elite four levels of strength. In that era of the anime elite 4 members here basically untouchable. Its loss to Paul' drapion and volknor's electavire were the only narratively bad ones.
For it to end with the talk about 6 tauros was unexpected but hilarious 😂
“I am not open to criticism” might be the funniest thing lockstens every said
There's no telling what direction the Pokemon anime is going to go from here on out. But let's reflect back on the experience and Adventure we followed for many years. Thank you Ash Ketchum, for being an inspiration to thousands of us.
I do think it's worth considering with Gliscor, Torterra, Gible, Noivern and Dragonite you can get 5 x4 ice weaknesses. If you give Ash a Sceptilite you can get that up to 6. Now all you need is one pokemon with ice shard and his team is finished.
Edit: Wait i forgot about Rowlet, we don't even need to give him a mega to make him fall over at the first sign of snow
He'll regret making fun of Iris' fears.
I was literally just watching the original videos y’all had done on this just yesterday. That was good timing.
Here's my theory on Ash's father, you see in XYZ in the end of the ninja village episode where the elder says the hero from long ago has come to save us once again and there it's show an old painting of Ash Greninja in a shrine, but I couldn't been Ash's unless his father also has a Greninja with Battle Bond aswell
6:23 - Pidgeot beat up one of Giovanni’s spare Rhydons for the final Kanto Gym match as a Pidgeotto.
Sirfetch'd did half of the job against Cynthia's freacking Garchomp, do not disrespect him >:(
There were a few more factors to consider for making a terrible team, which pokemon were given special training sessions and which ones were left behind to train. Pidgeot did do pretty bad at the beginning of the journey however it was left behind after evolving and only rejoined Ash in the very end so who knows if its been getting any stronger or stayed the same. Gliscore has a similar situation where it got an evolution for a necessary power boost but had to be left behind for special off-screen training so we only saw its best in the Sinnoh league, it doesn't make it any better but it has it leaves the question if it gained anything akin to levels or EVs during its off-screen training.Torterra has probably a worse trade off ever since Ash recruited Paul's Chimchar because it became the most focused pokemon out of the entire Sinnoh team so Torterra was badly neglected as well as Buizel in some degree. A lot of Ash's Unovan pokemon were left unused so it doesn't surprise me if some of them were not fully trained or were lagging behind during Black and White, probably because they were swapped out for type substitutions like Oshawott with Palpatoad but I can't say that with certainty. Torcoal though, yeah that thing is both bad and very neglectful, it would need an ability capsule to gain drought, swap out either flamethrower or heatwave for solar beam, and teach it body press over body slam to make it more threatening but even then I doubt it would be good enough to be considered mid.
It saddens me Snivy stayed unevolved. It had such great potential and is already a great battler. Unfortunately, sending it out against evolved pokemon is setting it up for failure
Evolution isn't everything lol
I will not have this competitive Torkoal slander
Torkoal is amazing right up until restricted pokemon pop up in VGC. It's got the super useful trait of being both an eruption user and a sun setter (via Drought). Get it in trick room with choice specs and it's hard to contend with. In addition, it still has useful coverage like earth power and has a little bit useful utility, most notably yawn (sleep is the second best status condition behind freeze if just going by pure output). You can also run body press if you really want to in order to get around more specially defensive mons due to your massive 140 defense stat.
Torkoal is a great Pokemon but Ash's Torkoal, not so much when it comes to battles. It's a sensitive turt, fighting isn't it's thing.
@@Eerie_Buneary Torkoal in general is still effective is my point. Not Ash's, but the species.
Though Sirfetch'd lost most of its battles.
The anime framed most of his battles as doing a LOT of damage to the other mon gauranteeing Ash's win.
Garchomp for example took a meteor assault and it weakened her enough for Lucario.
At the time of his reveal, a lot of people were surprised they gave Ash another Fighting type with Riolu/Lucario. The only reason people liked him was because of his vocal cry as Farfetch'd by it saying Come On due to its japanese name being Kamonegi (Kamon~Come On; and when it evolved it became more like Gamon). Moreover pointed out in the anime, if you fully disarm Sirfetch'd, he's practically defenseless/useless.
@@MarcusMapua You could say he becomes... A sitting duck
@@edgargaebolg9307 Nice👌
So, the aim for the horn thing drives me crazy, I know it was before they existed but now that we have abilities and Rhyhorn has Lightning Rod, the horn must be that lighting rod it’s the only part of his body that makes sense as a lightning rod.
Good to see Lockstin and Toby teaming up again. 🤘😎
Sir Fetche'd was seen more as a supporter and damage dealer, not a winner. remember destroying stealth Rock? going hand to hand with Cynthia's Garchomp? bro went in and I'm sure it supported in many more ways
I’d love to see what ash’s kaskade region Pokémon team would be now that he journey is over.
Hyped to play both these teams in SV
Torterra was doing really dirty after he evolved.
Pizza and Lockstin in one day?! Yes, please!
Will you do a video where u talk about how much Ash’s Pokémons should’ve actually grown instead of the show constantly merging them when it suits the show?
Like I don’t like how scraggly got thrown into battle and holding his own despite being a baby Pokémon who was just born (when he got thrown into that martial arts tournament in BW)
And there’s def some of Ash’s Pokémon that should’ve evolved long before each series ended, like Snivy and Buizel.
The copout cracked me up. Thanks, Lockstin.
This is somehow the best ending and worst ending to a video I've ever seen.
Hey Lockstin! I have a few suggestions for videos!
1. Dislyte characters and what Pokémon type they’d be
2. What Pokémon in Pokémon Café ReMix would be best for working in a café
6:15 Ugh... Did you guys forget about the Viridian City Gym Battle? Where Pidgeotto beat a freaking Rhyhorn? Remember that?
“Gym Battle”
@@Dibby0156 Uh... Yeah. So?
Hurts me to know about Gliscor it was one of my favorite pokemons on his team when I was young and it's in my top 10 favorite pokemon of all time and used to be my favorite at one point
This was a joy to watch, and happy to see BirdKeeperToby back!
"I am not open to criticism" got me 😂
8:40. Love how the tire just...ascends
Sirfetch’d is the goat, he might not have many wins under his belt but he is strong. He was able to defeat Drasna’s Mega Altaria, Rintos Gallade and Cynthia’s Milotic. He was also able to make Cynthia’s Garchomp almost faint now that is strong. Also Torterra only got worse cause Ash wasn’t used to training slower Pokémon and he was going up against much strong opponents. Noivern got barely any battle development cause they were focusing more on Ash Greninja and Gliscor was written to be weak at the beginning, too which he became a stronger battler.
I don't know if you can put any of Ash's Sinnoh Pokemon on the worst team without taking into considering the narrative albatross around their necks that is Infernape. It would be interesting to see how many of their losses are also Infernape wins because it had to look good because it had a sad backstory.
The worst team?
Well, a team doesn’t have to be a FULL team. It just has to be a Pokémon in his party.
So, with that in mind, Ash’s worst team is a singular Tauros, preferable whichever one has the worst moves and/or is the lowest level out of the 30
Friendship is an active mechanic from black and white until oras. I don't know anything about it being helpful for anything past that. It would affect online battles by slightly altering the odds of certain things in addition to helping with the game itself.
Torkoal is actually a decent Pokémon who held their own against Brandon's registeel
Someone needs to try to beat a game with these teams or try to battle each team against each other.
I immediately knew this was a collab when Bird Keeper Toby uploaded three seconds prior
Heracross was always such a beast it makes me sad to see it on the worst team.
magcarjoe LITERALLY just did this
Snivy was the strongest named here , tell me if you agree or not cuz her win rate is one of the best named and she has a lot of potential so if she were a serperior she could most likely be tied with Ash's charazard and his graninja (mabe)