Don't Buy a Renault Zoe 50
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Sad times, when I should be reviewing this car and singing its praises in stead I'm here telling you that you should not buy this car. Renaults choice to remove the head protecting airbags is quite shocking and therefore I cannot recommend this car to anyone.
Thats a real shame because if the airbag had not been removed in favour of a different type, then this car would get a massive thumbs up from me.
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I had a a Zoe 40 and loved it. I did look at the 50 but was offered a superb deal on a VW ID.3 and I now have that on the drive. I can't imagine going back to a Zoe in its current configuration and whilst the air bag wouldn't be a deal breaker, Renault's attitude might well be. You have a young family and need to be sensible; you're clearly making the wise choice. In your shoes I might well do the same.
Personal i never bought a car on its safety rating, as a young man 17-25 it was the cost of insurance, 25-35 sorry to say it was power ,now 47 its basically economy cheap insurance and cost per mile .I will probably get slated for the comment, but being honest.
Totally agree, as a used car buyer myself, safety has never been a priority for me either. I guess if you are buying new it may form part of the reason to buy.
Your insurance reflects car safety to some degree..
But while you can choose to buy a car and ignore how safe it is.... Would you be happy to put your child etc.. in the car?...
@@G-Cam1 yes
How people managed to live in the 70 's when there was NO airbags in ANY car ?
With out being lied too, simpler times. Fewer cars and higher mortality in accidents when they happened.
Feel like I dodged a bullet on this - was looking at ordering a Zoe in the autumn, partly from your enthusiasm for them. Even joined RZOC! As it was, the deal on a Leaf e+ Tekna was cheaper than a Zoe GT Line and decided the roomier rear seats and boot would be better for family use.
Real shame that Renault made the choices they did, and unfortunately I think the Zoe will be quietly shelved once new Megane production is up to speed. Hopefully rising used prices mean you'll not be too out of pocket - although everything else is more expensive too!
I agree with you that loss of 1 star (to make it 0 stars) is due to pole test but it is worth noting that this is performed at 30kph (about 18.5 mph). General side impact is at double that speed & I don’t think it failed that. I have read that reason pole test is at so low speed is because no car would pass the test at higher speed eg general side impact speed. I am as gutted as you that our ZE50 is less safe than earlier models on this one point - I am probably going to keep it for the moment though. Reason it lost the other 4 stars is, as you say, lack of the other safety features in Play model that are in GT line especially if you have one with AEB. Now that the previously optional safety features going to be or are in the other models as standard & Play model is dropped I wonder if Renault will resubmit model to NCAP and end up with 3 or 4 stars without bothering to replace thorax only airbag with old type combined thorax and head airbag?
Be aware the ncap rating is for the play model and from what I gather new ncap ratings for gp line would be higher than zero because of the electronic controls. I feel the standards authority should be contacted and maybe in uk watchdog tv program or similar just to get some publicity. Ps haven’t been able to get upgrade on tech that was shown on Renault owners club. This could be a law suit soon
I can see where your coming from however I have never had the NCAP ratings in mind before buying any car in the past and will not take into consideration when I buy my next car. I drive an EV and also a classic car and the classic wouldn't even be considered for an NCAP rating.LOL🤣
Hi I can see there is defiantly a split, it would be interesting to see if this is a division along age Young vs old and family vs invincible single man.
The kicker for me, is that Renault changed a key safety feature present on the previous version without telling anyone.
I have a classic too but mines usually tucked away in the garage, I don’t regularly transport my entire family in it. It’s driven in good weather when roads are quieter I.e not rush hour. Therefore the risk is lower, albeit if I do have an accident it’s still likely to be bad news, but I also know that.
@@eviain sounds to me like you were mis-sold the Zoe? If you weren't made aware that the airbags were no longer fitted, and (like most previous owners assumed they were) then you have every right to feel misled. Had you been made fully aware of the changes, I'm sure you would then have made an INFORMED choice and not have bought the car in the first place!
@@sandeebeech3390 Why not buy a car just because of a side airbag? Sounds mad to me. I certainly do not care. Compared to the wrecks I used to drive, where any brakes at all were optional the Zoe is super safe. (That is not an exaggeration).
Love my ze50 gt line.. Won't be selling it any time soon..
I judge it to be a generally safe car.. I'm the weakest part of the car / driver package.
A specific type of side impact appears to be of concern.. pole?
It always comes down to risk. So many dangers when driving. Here's yet another..
Would I buy another Renault? Mmm.. not sure.
GT Line ?
Hello, I've been considering the Zoe 50 as my next car for some time now. Renault has definitely kept the "airbag situation" quiet which I only recently discovered thanks to you and a few other reviewers. It's definitely a deal-breaker for me now, which is a pity as I'm downsizing from a large petrol car and this would be ideal.
Like you say in the video, I am not willing to compromise the safety of my family over this either. I noticed a video from a car dealer who referred to this as - "the elephant in the room" and found his remark to be blasé at the very least. He tried to then justify Renault's position as they had introduced a whole load of safety features in the Zoe 50 to make up for this. However, this makes no sense, it's a bit like having CCTV for your house and locks on your windows but decide not to bother with a front door!
Renault's disregard for NCAP's findings is pretty shocking and as you mention Iain, this could be a major problem where many other car manufacturers follow suit and flout the most BASIC safety features. Well done Iain, and thanks for making us aware of something that could potentially be catastrophic.
It’s a very sad situation but it appears they feel they can get away with it. I have decided to reject the brand for the time being. The way they have chosen to ignore complaints is the lowest of the low.
🎉Did you really need to take 51 minutes to talk about airbags? We have had a Zoe 135GT for 2 years now and we love it, we aren't concerned about the ncap rating as we think it says more about ncap than it does about Renault. This is our 2nd Zoe & we love it.
Let me look up what I’m allowed to do on my channel 😂
Renault not making buyers aware of the fact that they had no official ncap rating for new model questionable , however I believe that was not the case . I believe that they used the old ncap rating.
Yea they used the old one, but with the knowledge that they made changes
Not sure just how quickly Renault can provide a fix in the short term. Hopefully it can be delivered even if it's only some form of compensation payment as a technical fix (seat replacement/ecu s/w changes) could drag on (deliberately) hoping many owners pull the pin & sell. Personally, the 50 is still appealing only if it's just so much better in every other area than my 22kw Zoe.
All the best, I hope this issue gets resolved.
We had a ZOE ZE40 very impressed, we were so close to buying a ZE50, such a lucky escape we didn't. A buyer is right to assume/expect a newer model will be Better/Improved in all respects and not to find spec especially safety equipment has been reduced or compromised 🤕
You pays your money you take your choice, why should you deprive someone else of something they may be very happy with. Just because the airbags give you an issue, doesn't mean others will be as concerned.
Ignoring the fact that it was not disclosed until after I purchased it. If it was an objective choice with all facts presented prior to purchase I would agree
Here’s the terrible thing, it’s better by far than a scooter or a Twizy. If you could guarantee it wouldn’t end up on a motorway, it’s be absolutely fine. I wonder what it does to insurance. It’s weird, it seems insurance companies don’t believe zero stars will affect their payouts? ! My daughter’s costed insurance for this, it seems no worse than any other electric car. But insurance is not the logical business the companies like to imply of course. It’s a rotten score, but if my daughter turned round and said she’s getting a scooter (I mean a real, decent-wheeled thing), we’d probably throw money at her to induce buying a Zoe. It’s all relative. And the inevitable problem is, if you select a car based on British motorway driving, you’re going to buy a big used Volvo, aren’t you? It’s a very big issue, and yet, is it. Sliding doors I think, what’s the alternative, is the question.
Wow didn't know only 1 persons app would control pre heat & cooling that's crazy. The buttons on the previous model ZE40 to pre heat/cool and open the charge flap are so convenient
I think your just to paranoid about it on that basis you should have something completely different car as you wouldn't want to be in any small hatchback if your crash
Vw emissions claim still on going for my VW Golf TDI 2011, car companies for you they don't care, get some signs on it and park outside your dealer that may have an effect
Any updates on this issue with the Zoe? Have they put the airbags in on certain models?
Yea they will stop making the Zoe electricdrives.tv/renault-zoe-electric-car-to-be-discontinued-by-2024-and-replaced-by-renault-r5/
My other car is a classic mini van! Airbags ? Safety ? It doesn’t even have retractable seat belts 😂. The Zoe is still great and, albeit a deal breaker for the OP, it’s not for me.
I also have a classic car with zero safety features. The main difference is I knew that when I bought it. So I don’t drive my kids round in it.
@@eviain When i was a kid , may father had an AMI 8 Citroen , with NO safety at all , and i'm still alive.^^
And he never had ANY accident .
@@netshaman9918 Er ok, did he lie to you about how safe it was too?
@@eviain No, it was in the 70's , and at that time , airbags and all this electronic stuff were inexistent, but you know, life was still going on.^^
@@netshaman9918 if you do some basic research you’ll see life didn’t go on for ~7000 people per year (just in the uk) in the 70s due to RTAs. The figures today are much lower, less than 2000pa despite more cars being on the road. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reported_Road_Casualties_Great_Britain
Expired rating never mentioned in the early days
Im really worried about driving my young children around in my Z50 since discovering that theres missing airbags, only 1 year into a PCP deal and its In negative equity so can even sell it. No idea what to do.
Never buy a Renault ever again. They’re not interested in resolving the issue. Although from your kids point of view it’s really only the front driver & passenger who are less safe than the older model. That said rear safety is better in other cars in this segment due to side curtain airbags that run the length of the interior like e208
@@eviain yeh just annoying that we will likely be stuck with this car for a few years and the principal of removing an airbag is truly disgusting
Hi Iain, did you keep the car or sell it due to the air bag issue?
When it comes back from the garage it will be sold. It’s recently had a bit of warranty work done for a charging issue.
Renault were always known for there safety results , real shame
Yea really stinks
Annoys me in terms of resale like yourself also, and for the same reasons. I think Renault themselves class this as a strictly city car, hence why the didn’t add auto cruise control, even though the Zoe has more than sufficient range, I myself have done a 600 round trip, so can a test to this. I guess therefore their thinking is Zoe’s for the most part will only be involved in low speed accidents, so decided they could make more profit margin by omitting both airbags and the ACC.
What am I going to do? Well 90% of my driving is at low town speeds, so I guess wait and hope for Renault retro fit and/or compensation.
Mini Cooper=YES, Kia Soul=YES , BMW I3=YES, VW ID3=YES , Zoe=NO!! ==> 0 point in CRASH-TEST Euro NCAP!! And boring design!
Do Renault expect you to wear a crash helmet when you drive their Zoe 50? Seriously though, even a cycle helmet will give you more protection than the car does at present.
Good idea could be a fun video for the future 😅
Rarely use the lane keep assist as it’s almost pointless and at worse dangerous
Do you know if the new Megane suffers from this?
I’m sure Renault treats all its customers with contempt no matter what car they buy.
Your must have got off the wrong side of the bed this day 😃 and just thought you gonna have a right moan don't ya 😃👍
Renault no no for us. We’ve been to the dealership and loved it in the celadon blue and the range but o no o no o no. Considering different options.
Buy not by
Ah man how did I miss that
Yip.. a Zoe is a big NoNo for people who care about their kids or themselves..
And to think some people slagged off the MG ZS EV for being made in China.. and not being safe... Then it got a 5star Ncap rating...