They don't really have an option. Everything they do has to either pop a baby or get you to baby that can be popped... It's too ingrained in what they are.
@@Dr.Mooglebut there is one option. design an entire wave of new dino support with a new theme and a new, completely overhauled gameplay objective that's so good that the entire rest of the dino "archetype" simply cannot ignore it, lest it becomes outdated aka powercrept. i have no idea how you would do this, but it's happened before
HE IS NOT THE MF WHO REFLECTS PHYS! MOST OF THE TIME HE BLOCKS PHYS! IN SOME GAMES HE'S WEAK TO PHYS! GIRIMEHKALA IS THE REAL MF WHO REFLECTS PHYS, AKA THE REPELLEPHANT! THIS MEME IS MY JOKER MOMENT
21:13 This is the Boardroom meeting meme: Konami: How do we make zombies playable? Shiranui Enjoyer: How about another monster banish? Zombie World Piler: How about another Foolish Burial? Yugi-boomer: _How about another Pyramid Turtle?_
What we need is some new Normal monster support in addition to all these Normal monster retrains. Maybe a “Morganite”-style card that gives them duel long buffs (like let’s say an effect to Normal Summon them en masse AND at a discount, at the cost of being unable to Normal Summon Effect monsters the turn you do so.)
I'm thinking a perpetual double summon plus cost down X4 for normals only ie all normal monsters have their level reduced by 4 in hand then use a time tearing morganite for 3 normal summons per turn
@@lordofnaps6159does morganite say “an additional normal summon” or “a second normal summon” because that wording matters a lot also I feel like the deck sadly would still be to slow with 3 normal summons of normal monsters but would be a cool concept
At this point, Dinosaur is just giving the baby to the soul-eating demon raptor and then doing that as many times as it takes to build a good board. Not even sure if I'd be looking for anything else, it would be strange without the infanticide.
The new Sabersaurus XYU retrain actually is justified to pop the baby as the original released alongside Babycerasaurus back then. It was the OG target out of the pack for it in bad decks while playing with friends.
one of the funniest shit baout vendread is that its gimmmick sucks really bad but its existence made them have to make them crazy good at swarming so it can do other shit
Machina enthusiast here, Dogurado (the rock link) can be made at the end of a scrap combo with Scrap Golem (the fridge) and Scrap Recycler/Wyvern, Recycler can typically be used in a different machine only link. I was always at a loss for good link 2/3's for those 2 since Urgent Schedule locks you to only machines being able to attack and all (and I'm used to going 2nd, but this dude does something going first).
As one of those dinosaur players, yes and no. I don't want that synergy to go away (honestly hard for it to, it's so strong). What I do want is something in addition to it. Not just more ways to pop the babies. The deck has a really solid core. It's just so telegraphed, and has clear choke points. I will always pop the baby. I just don't want to be chained to popping the baby.
@@Crawver it needs more one and one.5 card combos. More extenders that arent reliable on set up and better endboard pieces. A lot of work needs to be done. Dino needs another good card on oviraptor level. Maybe a poppler type card? Or one that specials itself when a dino is on the field and can gain advantage. Tbh it would help if Misc was back at three I know its bad card design but without it dinos choke points are just to hard. Dino needs a lot of one ofs and bricks so more starters so you can play 60 cards would be nice and more room for handtraps
Yes i hope even if we get actual archetypes for dinos they keep the popping centric play style. Imagine an adamancipator like dino archetype where you reveal x number of cards and pop a dino revealed
I feel like Curse of the Antient turtle didnt get enough of a "this cards fucking sick" that it deserves. Banish Alghoul Mazera for a free level 8 (or 7) or better banish Changshi the Spiridao, it comes back and you get to send another card from deck to GY. Great for Shiranuis too.
@sapphiredraggytheflygon8521 oops I guess not huh:/ I guess if you use like verte Anaconda, but that's seems like a hassle just to activate seals first turn lol
2:11 Rock support viable in Chronomaly, Adamancipator, Subterror, and maybe Trimid/fossil decks 8:09 Bandit Keith retrains (one for lair of darkness, the other a random support card) 21:30 Zombie ritual support viable in Revendread and Zombie decks
7:40 he corrected himself immediately but it was comicly funny he thought that for a second since those 2 extra deck monsters mostly just explode to search, and foolish on summon while banishing for a field spell, respectively. King can pop, but the big scary boss is definitely Combined Creation. It's even funnier since i only play masterduel, i don't have the king. The only memento in my extra mostly just explodes. So i pictured him looking at Twin Dragon and it exploding. I'm highly unqualified to say anything, it was just a funny mental picture.
A positive for the Gordian Schneider. The self banish is on resolution so I assume if the opponent manages to move around the monsters. E.g. target I.P, I.P quick link. You wouldn’t have to banish for the I.P seen as it wasn’t there on resolution. IP being the obvious example of wanting to force opponent to use it early
I feel like Sabersaurus retrain paints him in kind of a pathetic light... like to OG flavor text reads like it getting angry would be really terrible, but he just gets ~5% stronger and kills one of his friends
I can see pegasus popping up going second into time if you just special it and threaten bp they need something to get the card off the field or negate it that isn't a monster or you just chain and burn
tbf, dinomorphia is also still missing one crucial piece of support. no, not a spell card. a level 2 main deck monster! currently there are only 2 main deck monsters at all and only one of them is a good normal summon while the other is a soft garnet, so as it stands the deck doesn't even feel great about playing fossil dig because hilariously it can brick on literal rota. all it would need to be is a hand trap of remotely playable strength and that issue would instantly be solved, but also the deck needs a level 2 just to put in the graveyard so that alert can get maximum value if you wanna target a kentregina with it, which you often do but won't because you can target 2 level 4's instead which is the only way resolving that card actually generates a plus. dinomorphia does not play miscellaneousaurus btw
Dino players getting inadvertantly hit every banlist and also getting the worst random support all the time hurts my soul. At this point, give me a new baby to pop, i have too many ways to pop a baby and not enough babies
@ we need another normal summon other than oviraptor. Like a baby that can send itself to the grave/summon itself from the grave. Or an animadorned archosaur that can special itself. The biggest weakness the deck has is to hand traps and basic interruptions since if all you have is ovirator, you’re screwed
Retains sabersaurus and then doesn't allow it to summon monsters from deck, I know it was rescue rabbit that did it but that's what you associate with sabersaurus.
Should have been a link one with that effect so you can atleast do some ovi things if it gets ashed or impermed or veilerd and you happen to draw a baby. Dont know how you are supposed to use this card if you are not already winning. This is just a win more card and dinos need more starters and consistency cards or even endboard cards not this. Still of course you will play it.
Nope both hand cards and ED cards get banished face down, the wording is just weird because of the modular nature of how many cards you banish to bouncr
Looks like Konami ran out of ideas to elevate pop le bebeh.dek........ We still don't have a good Dino synchro deck or link Dino turbo which Dinowrestlers failed at........
there's subtle humor in the dinosaur deck not evolving
It doesn't evolve and dies to a meteor... Clever
I mean we got the new Jurac stuff that just goes meteor over and over
They don't really have an option. Everything they do has to either pop a baby or get you to baby that can be popped...
It's too ingrained in what they are.
"why did the getter rays choose lowly humanity"
@@Dr.Mooglebut there is one option. design an entire wave of new dino support with a new theme and a new, completely overhauled gameplay objective that's so good that the entire rest of the dino "archetype" simply cannot ignore it, lest it becomes outdated aka powercrept. i have no idea how you would do this, but it's happened before
HE IS NOT THE MF WHO REFLECTS PHYS! MOST OF THE TIME HE BLOCKS PHYS! IN SOME GAMES HE'S WEAK TO PHYS! GIRIMEHKALA IS THE REAL MF WHO REFLECTS PHYS, AKA THE REPELLEPHANT! THIS MEME IS MY JOKER MOMENT
persona started at 4 golden
play a real shin megami tensei
Looking cool, Joker 🐱
But you're not Joker, you're Yu
Why aren't his fusion materials an angel and an ankylosaur? I don't understand
So Dino doesn't need more things to pop the baby... it just needs more babies.
Iirc, Beta Pill can drop Chimera T. Wrextle as a giant baby and the last new Dino R4nk (the Grenosaurus retrain) is a giant baby.
Peeps in chat accidentally calling Miscellaneousaurus “Miscarriage” when describing it failing to pop the baby is beautifully poetic.
*sniffs air* Did some one say DARK TRIBUTE?! Ah yes! Another Card for the Lair of Darkness!
"What do Dinos do apart from Popping the baby??"
WDYM? We've been ver this. Drop a Rock. 3 Times. Sometimes 4 times.
It’s kinda funny how their 2nd strat became just meteor OVER AND OVER which I’m not sure what it actually accomplishes.
@JohnnyMacs19 I'll tell ya. Popping the baby.
21:13 This is the Boardroom meeting meme:
Konami: How do we make zombies playable?
Shiranui Enjoyer: How about another monster banish?
Zombie World Piler: How about another Foolish Burial?
Yugi-boomer: _How about another Pyramid Turtle?_
What we need is some new Normal monster support in addition to all these Normal monster retrains.
Maybe a “Morganite”-style card that gives them duel long buffs (like let’s say an effect to Normal Summon them en masse AND at a discount, at the cost of being unable to Normal Summon Effect monsters the turn you do so.)
yeah a new morganite card for normal monsters would be sick. we could call it "primite"
I'm thinking a perpetual double summon plus cost down X4 for normals only
ie all normal monsters have their level reduced by 4 in hand
then use a time tearing morganite for 3 normal summons per turn
@@lordofnaps6159does morganite say “an additional normal summon” or “a second normal summon” because that wording matters a lot also I feel like the deck sadly would still be to slow with 3 normal summons of normal monsters but would be a cool concept
just give em a way to cold fusion law of the normal lmao
At this point, Dinosaur is just giving the baby to the soul-eating demon raptor and then doing that as many times as it takes to build a good board. Not even sure if I'd be looking for anything else, it would be strange without the infanticide.
The new Pegasus is appearing in the next episode of Prog.
Eventually they're going to need better cards to pop, not just more ways to pop cards.
Maybe a card that actually does something on his own without needing to be popped but gaining benefits if it gets popped too
Link 1 that pops from deck
... Can you get better than baby? I doubt it. We can probably get different variations but not a strictly better version
@@sammydray5919 yeh a baby cerasaurus that also has an effect on summon or smth like that
@@BaxsStudiosChimera T. Wrextle off Beta Pill?
The new Sabersaurus XYU retrain actually is justified to pop the baby as the original released alongside Babycerasaurus back then. It was the OG target out of the pack for it in bad decks while playing with friends.
So what you’re saying is we need a new baby to pop
@@JohnnyMacs19Baby Tyrannosaurus, summons from ED.
@@otterfire4712We kind of got that with Beta Pill dropping Chimera T. Wrextle from ED as a giant baby.
@JohnnyMacs19 *yes*
one of the funniest shit baout vendread is that its gimmmick sucks really bad but its existence made them have to make them crazy good at swarming so it can do other shit
Total baby destruction
Machina enthusiast here, Dogurado (the rock link) can be made at the end of a scrap combo with Scrap Golem (the fridge) and Scrap Recycler/Wyvern, Recycler can typically be used in a different machine only link. I was always at a loss for good link 2/3's for those 2 since Urgent Schedule locks you to only machines being able to attack and all (and I'm used to going 2nd, but this dude does something going first).
You can get a 4k mf that repels phys with protection with an IP and a Lord of the Heavenly Prison. In your opponent's turn, even.
dinosaur petdeckers dont want the deck to move past popping the baby's, it's the whole reason we like it
As one of those dinosaur players, yes and no. I don't want that synergy to go away (honestly hard for it to, it's so strong). What I do want is something in addition to it. Not just more ways to pop the babies.
The deck has a really solid core. It's just so telegraphed, and has clear choke points. I will always pop the baby. I just don't want to be chained to popping the baby.
@@Crawver it needs more one and one.5 card combos. More extenders that arent reliable on set up and better endboard pieces. A lot of work needs to be done. Dino needs another good card on oviraptor level. Maybe a poppler type card? Or one that specials itself when a dino is on the field and can gain advantage. Tbh it would help if Misc was back at three I know its bad card design but without it dinos choke points are just to hard. Dino needs a lot of one ofs and bricks so more starters so you can play 60 cards would be nice and more room for handtraps
Yes i hope even if we get actual archetypes for dinos they keep the popping centric play style. Imagine an adamancipator like dino archetype where you reveal x number of cards and pop a dino revealed
i poppa da baby
Love me some baby popping
[loud Farfa laughing]
your suppose to pop the baby not poppa is i mean if you want to be a daddy to a baby dino i guess, but you gotta get the velociraptor in the mood
3:10 if block comes back this is immediately playable chat
As much as I would love it. Block can never come back
No Regenesis react this is so sad
NOOOOOO OF ALL THE DM CARDS TO NOT MAKE AN ARCHETYPE AROUND WHY IS SERPENT NIGHT DRAGON A RANDOM HORRIBLE FREE AGENT
They've been retraining 1999 Premium Pack vanillas like this, as a form of nostalgia pandering that isn't DM batchest
I feel like Curse of the Antient turtle didnt get enough of a "this cards fucking sick" that it deserves. Banish Alghoul Mazera for a free level 8 (or 7) or better banish Changshi the Spiridao, it comes back and you get to send another card from deck to GY. Great for Shiranuis too.
It's a good card but zombie is still a long way off
2:04 that mf do indeed reflect physical
"Vendread support" he says, my man doesn't know we're actually dumping Dokurorider Baby!
8:17 what are you talking about?
Serpent night dragon most definitely is a dragon. It's printed right there on the card in black and yellow.
Evil knight dragon can tribute seals first turn for any dragon in main deck that's crazy
Seals is a Light monster
@sapphiredraggytheflygon8521 oops I guess not huh:/ I guess if you use like verte Anaconda, but that's seems like a hassle just to activate seals first turn lol
2:11
Rock support viable in Chronomaly, Adamancipator, Subterror, and maybe Trimid/fossil decks
8:09
Bandit Keith retrains (one for lair of darkness, the other a random support card)
21:30
Zombie ritual support viable in Revendread and Zombie decks
16:00 numeralia support! always thought they stopped making support for that deck kind of fast and abruptly
dino: pop baby (aka planned Parenthood the deck)
7:40 he corrected himself immediately but it was comicly funny he thought that for a second since those 2 extra deck monsters mostly just explode to search, and foolish on summon while banishing for a field spell, respectively. King can pop, but the big scary boss is definitely Combined Creation.
It's even funnier since i only play masterduel, i don't have the king. The only memento in my extra mostly just explodes. So i pictured him looking at Twin Dragon and it exploding.
I'm highly unqualified to say anything, it was just a funny mental picture.
Not pop the baby? IMPOSSIBLE!
as a dino player popping the baby is all i do and all i will do
I mean, Rescue ace used maindeck monsters as their end board “boss”
POP DA BABIES
Farfa be like: haha Exdeee
I love this new retrains, they are perfect for a cube draft
A positive for the Gordian Schneider. The self banish is on resolution so I assume if the opponent manages to move around the monsters. E.g. target I.P, I.P quick link. You wouldn’t have to banish for the I.P seen as it wasn’t there on resolution.
IP being the obvious example of wanting to force opponent to use it early
I feel like Sabersaurus retrain paints him in kind of a pathetic light... like to OG flavor text reads like it getting angry would be really terrible, but he just gets ~5% stronger and kills one of his friends
Hopefully after Vicious Claws we'll get main deck Masked Heroes with decent effects and to make Contrast Hero Chaos easier to summon.
Turtle curse seems funny in skull servants
Bro I don't care how good gordian schneider is ITS THE PERFECR DREAMING NEMLERIA CARD
Serpent night dragon was one of my favorite cards as a kid!
I can see pegasus popping up going second into time if you just special it and threaten bp they need something to get the card off the field or negate it that isn't a monster or you just chain and burn
Kids these days will think "Pop the Baby" comes from Barfa.
Real man only sees Hasher Brown, the Boner Lord.
yo gordian scheinder goes crazy in thunder dragons
Oh snap, Alexander in Yu-Gi-Oh
tbf, dinomorphia is also still missing one crucial piece of support. no, not a spell card. a level 2 main deck monster! currently there are only 2 main deck monsters at all and only one of them is a good normal summon while the other is a soft garnet, so as it stands the deck doesn't even feel great about playing fossil dig because hilariously it can brick on literal rota. all it would need to be is a hand trap of remotely playable strength and that issue would instantly be solved, but also the deck needs a level 2 just to put in the graveyard so that alert can get maximum value if you wanna target a kentregina with it, which you often do but won't because you can target 2 level 4's instead which is the only way resolving that card actually generates a plus. dinomorphia does not play miscellaneousaurus btw
Shin megani tensei references.... Wasnt expecting to see arababaki here
What the hell is written on his shirt
they keep giving dino cards which ignore the problems the deck has, and almost never destroy from deck, so you need to independently search babycera
Dino players getting inadvertantly hit every banlist and also getting the worst random support all the time hurts my soul. At this point, give me a new baby to pop, i have too many ways to pop a baby and not enough babies
doesn't Nemurelia able to get back those facedown cards?
2:37 that's just a pokemon
Bro at 12:05 called the card doo doo shirts💀?????
I’m glad I’m not crazy for thinking this Dino card is literally worthless and does nothing new for the deck
Dinos need more babies, not more poppers, those are plentiful. 🦖
@ we need another normal summon other than oviraptor. Like a baby that can send itself to the grave/summon itself from the grave. Or an animadorned archosaur that can special itself. The biggest weakness the deck has is to hand traps and basic interruptions since if all you have is ovirator, you’re screwed
ADAMANCIPATOR BEST DECK BABYYYYYYYYYYYYY
peguses is trickstar burn support
Retains sabersaurus and then doesn't allow it to summon monsters from deck, I know it was rescue rabbit that did it but that's what you associate with sabersaurus.
Should have been a link one with that effect so you can atleast do some ovi things if it gets ashed or impermed or veilerd and you happen to draw a baby. Dont know how you are supposed to use this card if you are not already winning. This is just a win more card and dinos need more starters and consistency cards or even endboard cards not this. Still of course you will play it.
@@BaxsStudiosBold assumption when the Dino ED is already crammed full of Band-Aids such as the _last_ Dino retrain Xyz. 😂
Does Golden not banish the hand cards face-up?
Nope both hand cards and ED cards get banished face down, the wording is just weird because of the modular nature of how many cards you banish to bouncr
nuevas cartas pogcampeon
i meeeean serpent night dragon is decent with lair of darkness... i guess
Looks like Konami ran out of ideas to elevate pop le bebeh.dek........ We still don't have a good Dino synchro deck or link Dino turbo which Dinowrestlers failed at........
afd support yayyyyyyyyyyyy
As someone in Germany...this sounds weird to me
@@totalwartimelapses6359 I'm getting vietnam flashbacks every single dueltaining video