"they" dont want you to think big, "they" want to limit your imagination... Really? "They" tell me i live in a vast, nearly unlimited, ever expanding universe that can be researched and explored if i only think big and creative enough. He is telling me i live on a plane, surrounded by an immense, unpassable wall, covered by an inpenetrable dome to "free" our imagination...😮 Yeah... Sounds legit. 🤣
@@konstellashon1364exactly! A lot of flerfs in reality are blasphemous against their own God by saying his own creation can hide something like a divine being that spoke life into existence there are other examples but that’s the one they stay using to justify their nonsense
@@brizzle3903flerfs really stand for nothing but Flat Earth. They denounce their own Gods just for this cult of Flat Earth. There’s no way you’d think a spinning ball would be too much for God to do or that space is too crazy to exist?!
@@diarmuidkuhle8181 Honestly, I'd pay to watch you and David in the same room; you high as a kite, drunk as a sailor on leave and him stone cold sober just to see who makes the most sense. I'd give 3:1 it's still you.
As someone who spent much of their adult life consuming illicit drugs, I deeply resent that remark. Hell, I doubt I'd have the educational qualifications I have otherwise - which is probably an indication of the actual meaninglessness of higher education rather than the constructiveness of illicit drugs. And I really wish people would stop trying to delineate alcohol and illicit drugs with tautological phrases like, "on drugs and being intoxicated". Softening the language around alcohol and a societal tendency to separate it from illicit drugs is a big part of why its devastating impact on society is so sadly tolerated.
5:02 "I walked away from my American dream because this is the most important topic of our time." No Dave. You walked away from the corporate meatgrinder because you discovered you could have a comfortable and far less stressful life grifting off sad, vulnerable, deluded people.
this actually gets to the heart of the matter - if I had time and money and truly believed I was being deceived I would move heaven & earth (pun intended) to demonstrate this fact. I would learn everything I could about surveying including hiring a professional and equipment to train me up and then go and make my own measurements. But of course if I did that I would quickly discover that oh sh*t we really are on a globe of the size they teach us. This is why I know he is a liar and scam artist.
@@Fred2-123he doesn't come acrossed as someone who is super successful at business. When you talk to someone whose really good at business you get it.
And there you have it. Flat Earth is a religion. It's not science. Right at the start, he spells it out for everyone. It's all about his creator. It's not about facts. It's not about reality. The flat Earth is a way for him to align with his beliefs, because if flat Earth is wrong, his conspiracy falls apart, and so do his beliefs.
Religion?! Please don't insult religion like that.. flat earth IS A DELUSION... can't even say it's a cult since a cult needs a charismatic figure head AND HAS SOME THOUGHT IN REGARDS TO TRICK PEOPLE INTO IT AND HAVE SOME END GOAL.
... and his business. Let's not beat around the bush, many of these guys are in it for the money. Everybody wants to see an obvious fool and eyeballs on videos pay money these days.
“If you live in a small world you have small thoughts”, there is a lot of irony here. They believe we live on a flat Earth with a dome over the top of it with the military stopping us from going past the ice wall. Most people know we live in an expanding universe of unimaginable size. So who is it that lives in a small world?
@@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286 ... Scott may have had a military background but no-one stopped his expedition - sadly, the environment did in the end.
“If you’re trapped in a globe of limitations” or what “If you’re trapped on a flat plain of limitations” is there any difference Dave? Science and a sceptical approach to seeking truth that is what keeps you from living in a world locked within a frame of prescribed blind faith to the Sky God and his limitations
Removing lead from gasoline has tracked exactly with a reduction in criminal activity where ever it was done. I wonder what it is that makes people contrary against all evidence? Peanuts?
@@stevetheduck1425 damn you are stupid. It correlated when most of the auto industry transitioned from carbureted to fuel injected engines. I guess that MAJOR REVOLUTION is anecdotal, not what you say but can’t prove. Of course the entire automotive and driving world can prove otherwise. Nah, we’re all wrong, you got the golden ticket. You should be a fucking trillionaire if you are the smartest .000000000137% of the population!
@@stevetheduck1425 i don't think they are being contrarian. they aren't saying that lead is good for you lol. just that people are stupid and eat paint chips.
@@jnewcomb Not necessarily. A goal is not actually a requirement for cults, many have one (or more) but some don't. Cults can just be a set of beliefs. In this case though I believe he has a goal... Make as many people as he can believe in flat earth and make money off them...
Did he really claim that the NASA budget was bigger than the entire media industry? Worldwide sales for electronic games alone are well in excess of ten times bigger than the NASA budget.
To inject a couple of US-centric examples: NASA annual budget: $25 billion (= 1000 million) US federal budget: $1.6 trillion (= million million) National Football League annual revenue: $19 billion National Basketball Association annual revenue: $11 billion Major League Baseball annual revenue: $12 billion And one world-wide example; Video Game industry annual revenue: $184 billion! Exxon annual revenue: $384 billion
"Thinking we live on a globe limits the sense of exploration." So instead of the frontier of space he puts a dome over the earth. That guy is a poster child of the failure of the American education system.
he might believe that its' an infinite plane without the dome. but in both cases he somehow has zero inclination to go look at the edge of known world. so he talks about exploration just to talk exploration, with no actual exploration desires. more than that he claims the group of other people that are against him know whats there. and those people include basically all people.
Exactly what I was thinking. The dome, the ice wall, even the "use" of the military are all ways that these flerfs place limits on the flat earth, thereby protecting their story against reality.
Wrong, it's not the failure of the American Education as majority of people who went through that education have lived and aren't living in a delusion. It is more of he is the poster child of the internet giving loser scums a platform and to connect with other loser scums.
Some Flerfers do believe that "beyond the ice wall" there is a massive amount of more Earth. With Nazis and giants and vikings and whatnot living there. ...But I think that is a minority even among the Flerfers.
@@Asko83 . The simple fact is that flat earthers have no agreed idea of what a flat earth would actually look like and how it would work. The only thing they have together is that the Earth is not a globe.
The irony is that all these space telescopes/probes etc have done nothing but ENHANCE the grandeur and glory of the universe, not diminish it. Whether you attribute it all to a god, or to natural processes, you cannot deny that the beauty of the universe has been revealed by space exploration.
He is correct in regards to Christianity though. It's why the Nazis targeted it. It's why Communists target Christianity. It's why atheists will Target Christianity. Even other religions will target, christianity.
Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown, And things seem hard or tough, And people are stupid, obnoxious or daft, And you feel that you've had quite eno-o-o-o-o-ough, Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour. That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned, 'Round the sun that is the source of all our power. The sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see, Are moving at a million miles a day, In an outer spiral arm, at fourteen thousand miles an hour, Of a galaxy we call the Milky Way. Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars; It's a hundred thousand light-years side to side; It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick, But out by us it's just three thousand light-years wide. We're thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point, We go 'round every two hundred million years; And our galaxy itself is only one of millions of billions In this amazing and expanding universe. The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding, In all of the directions it can whiz; As fast as it can go, the speed of light, you know, Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is. So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure, How amazingly unlikely is your birth; And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth! - Monty Python
His answer, if you can even call it that, was entirely made of gobbledygook from start to finish. As you said he said a lot of words but there was no coherent thought strung across them whatsoever. I think the people who sat there and accepted that answer probably are victims of this guy slowly grinding their IQ to single digits. Because you have to be pretty far into FE to listen to that and not think yourself. "This guy is a sandwich short of a lunch."
he did answer the question though, by rambling into 30 other dumb conspiracys he demonstrated that the reason for push back against flerf is because they then buy into evryyyythinggg else.
"You dilute something by putting it into something bigger; like infinite space." Also, "they are trapping us in a small world to limit our imagination." OK. So, they're diluting reality by telling us the universe is infinite...in order to limit our imagination to a small world. Got it...I think. 🤣
@@massey4business exactly! he was "massacred" by Professor Dave. i kept laughing when he said Spectroscopy needs a container, something like that. lol!
Wow, next thing I know he will show up in a TikTok video refusing to show his driver's license because he was just "travelling" at 100mph and doesn't have to stop at stop signs.
The biggest problem is that it gives the village idiot a soapbox so tall that he can be heard by all the other village idiots from all around the world.
“It’s hard to control people who have a connection to god!” Religious leaders and many different ’churches’ have done more to control people than astronomers, geographers and navigators ever have!
Just visited Dave's web page. On the home page he has a number of maps copied from Google Earth, maps generated from satellite images and data collected from space as they literally orbit the planet.
There is also the view of some in the US that since some date in the past they are not a nation but a corporation. I think it's something to do with the restoration after the civil war. "Real' presidents existed up to that date and since then they are all fake or pretend presidents.
But, amazingly, that supposed creator can't control it, and a secret, unseen cabal of "them" is able to mislead nearly the entire human population with a few CGI pictures and the creator-god thing can't do squat about it. Puny god.
The "to hide God" argument in near to blasphemy to me. It makes God truly pathetic. Their god, who instead of making an unfathomable vast universe, could only manage a magic terrarium, can be hidden by a bunch of guys in suits.
Their idea of God is extremely limited, as befits their limited idea of the scale of the universe, confined under the dome over the flat earth. Small thinking by small minds . . .
I have an amusing thought of a flat earther dying and meeting God with God wanting to know why the flerf believes he is only capable of creating a flat dish with a lid on top.
Spot on. Though not a believer myself, the wonders of the natural world and the intricacies (and mysteries) of science would reinforce my faith. Spot on about the blasphemy too. Taking the lord's name in vain, bearing false witness, and cherry picking literal interpretations from KJV are guaranteeing him a very hot destiny.
You mean you can't deduce for yourself that the earth is a globe? Or at least not a flat disk? You're telling me you don't have powers of observation to inform you that the world can't be flat? You need scientists to tell you that which should be obvious?
That makes you slightly smarter then Dave. Well one hurdle is taken you already discredit the bible in favor of facts. Now continue doing that and leave christianity.
Me too. I also believe that revelation requires reason and rationalism. God exists but gives us reason to understand creation and develop laws to describe and understand it. For me the scientific endeavour outlines the majesty of our incredible universe. This clown is saying that Einstein, Newton, in fact all Astro physicists and quantum physicists, and all the experimentation and observations are wrong. With no supporting evidence. We may have a slightly different perspective Dan, but love your work showing these dangerous and ignorant people up for what they are.
I am Christian tons went to believe things centrist say but there’s a lot still hat try to disprove GoD through science. God create science and fav team the mind to figure it out lol. I feel like if we were on a round surface after thinking about like wouldn’t we be upside down and sideways in certain areas? Lol ijs but also t the same time I feel if GOD wants us to be in a dome that has several different layers to it hence he can do what he wants he made us.
I will not leave Christianity for the avenue of good it offers and I've used. I just deplore people who forces their belief for AND against Christianity as well as other religions. Heck, I've seen just as bad people in Christianity as it is in Megacorporates. Even Jesus had to dealt with them until death in His Time. Bible is made of poems and interpretative history - not word-to-word accurate history. It's a belief, a record but not accurate history. I wish you well, and be wise. But I'm afraid my foresight didn't predict well for some people in this reply.
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Trillions? "There's so much evidence of that, it's unreal." He's absolutely correct. It's unreal. Incredible. Literally, incredible.
This reasoning is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. The Bible isn't a scientific textbook. Gah...the stupidity is reaching critical mass! Ahhh, Dave is now a stupidity singularity.
"you are registered into a corporation at birth and if you live on their ball field, you play by their rules and thats how they control us" - David Weiss on the perfect definition of religion! Your religion and god all depends on where you were born, which playing field you were registered to.
"if you live in a small world" - that's exactly what flat earth is. The reality is, that we live in an almost endlessly big universe, which motives us to explore.
Well there's that "outer land". And once that's gone, *more* outer land! Let's not let the fact that there's no such thing hold us back. And we are trapped, not by a dome but by distance and gravity. We *could* colonize other worlds eventually but that's quite a long shot. Probably we'll never make it. The fact that we exist and are able to ask such questions is a remarkable gift (and a bit a a curse) that we fail to appreciate.
Because "they" don't want you to. It's why they make those stupid videos about how they're being caught by a coast guard trying to prevent them from entering treacherous waters far away from land. Oh, he makes this point here 11:05 So predictable. So dumb.
Maybe there are those other 2,94 trillion people living in there, and not letting us in there. 😆 This guy, DITwhatever, is so far in his scam and lying to others, that he can't even see, or hear, how idiotic his claims are. Nor can he understand numers at slightest, I doubt he knows hiw many zeros are there in a trillion.😂
@@louieberg2942 dumb indeed. "They" would definitely want to exploit the resources from such fertile place and to do that, "they" definitely would need people to colonize the place ffs. The resources aren't going to gather and process themselves and "they" wouldn't touch a tool or do a second of real work even if it was the last resort to staying alive.
Obvious, your curtains are closed and stellar copulating refraction and other important sounding words, of course multiplied by Bs3 divided by Pie, Apple not cherry though, and well the best answer is NuhUhh!
Globally there was only approx. 71 billion spent on space exploration and research in 2018. Over 530 billion spent on beauty products world wide in the same period.
@@chrisantoniou4366 Oh come on, do you really think the flerfs understand the concept of irony After all they have no grasp of self awareness or projection!
He's a grifter. I also highly doubt his claim that he was a very successful businessman. Yeah, he made tons of money. That's why he needs to hawk flat earth on social media.
I have a buddy with whom I shared an apartment for a couple of years. he's a nice guy, clean-cut, and very responsible, maybe except for not taking good care of my cat when I was away for a week. The one crazy thing about him was that he was a hardcore conspiracy theorist. You know, the Illuminati, the Lizard People, the faked Moon Landings, the whole shebang. Well, he was in town for a sporting event a few years back. We hung out one day and he came up to me and asked me: Ray, what's the deal with all these Flat Earth people? My jaw dropped and I felt like busting out laughing. If I recall, I looked at him like he was crazy. I felt like asking him: Are you serious? You don't believe in the Flat Earth? I just kind of chuckled though and said I don't know.
Another question the flerfs really need a decent answer for: If they legitimately proved to us all that the Earth is actually flat …. What **exactly** would change?
The biggest change would be that the grifter flerfs (as opposed to the “true believers”) would have to find a proper job, or at least find another source of income.
@wardrobegirl67 no... planetary movements wouldn't work. All sorts of forces just wouldn't work (corriolis effect, for example), many formations and such wouldn't make sense. Gravity doesn't work in a geocentric model You can't believe in science and in a flat earth, they are contradictory.
@@wardrobegirl67 Yet the moon, the Sun and all the other plants are sphere shaped. Only we are flat? Should have stayed awake in science class. Blow a bubble. What shape does it automatically take? Spherical. Why? Equal pressure acting on it in all directions. The same as he Moon, the Sun and yes, the Earth. It's virtually impossible for our planet to be any other shape then what it is, spherical.
"They" do it to hide god, "They" aren't very good at it are "they", almost as bad an argument as the "'They' are doing this to silence us!", I wish "they" did silence them, imagine how quiet it'd be then!
I never understood when people say that, wouldn't it make more sense to use religion to control people like why try and hide the fact the Bible is real seems like it's just making it harder for you
Makes me laugh when they say that. Which god? If it's the god of the bible, then why are non Christian countries making satellites and space crafts? Haha
@@katieheys3007 same when people say giants existed but the Smithsonian is hiding the bones ....the Smithsonian has it is their answer to everything when you ask them for proof
I think it’s both . At first it was for the money from grifting . Then it evolved into I must be so smart because I’m different . Then he fell for his own grift and fully just believes it now
"Small world = Small thoughts" - Said by the man that thinks we're trapped by an ice wall whereas the rest of us believe in an ever-expanding universe.
Exactly my first thought. The easiest people to control are religious. They're already primed to believe on blind faith, no evidence required, and doctrine.
That’s it. Im going to start a Gofundme campaign to send Eric Dubay to the ISS so he can come back and write another book called, “ Im stupid, I thought the Earth was Flat”.
@@riconui5227as long as he stays on the outside of the ISS. He will deny everything he sees out there. Even if he somehow converted flerfs will turn on him on a dime.
@@Fred2-123 Its the core belief for Sovereign Citizens. It is just a grift with a bunch of weird beliefs, but it has much more clear goal and payoff for the people who get involved in it. Basically, the overarching idea is that (if you are US born) you only have to follow US law because you were registered to a corporation (or as a corporation) through you social security number when you were born. However, if you buy my book and other legal materials, and follow the convoluted steps I lay out, you too can free yourself from the government's lies and no longer have to abide by laws, get a driver's license, comply with law enforcement, or even pay taxes.
You’re right he also used the term “natural law” which is classic SovCit nonsense. SovCit is probably the only movement as dumb as flerfs tbh, makes sense Dave is in both.
"If you live in a small world, you have small thoughts. If you live in fear you're afraid." But this guy thinks we live on a disk under a dome, and he's a god fearing christian.........!?
I loved Red Dwarfs scene where they say that a missing page of the bible has been found that says “to my darling Candy, all characters portrayed in this book are fictitious any resemblance to anyone living or dead is a coincidence” lol
Amusing. But isn't it actually more like a collection of writings from a bunch of different authors over the span of a couple hundred years? (And that's before you get into the translations and re-translations over the following centuries, often guided by the ruling leadership at the time to tweak the new version's teachings to their liking.)
So if I believe the word is flat I don’t have to go to work today. I’m going to call the bank and let them know the earth is flat so I won’t be paying off my loans anymore. See how that goes
Wow! I honestly can’t deal with the DITRH insanity! I’ve seen the horizon dozens of times. I’ve seen the curve. I really appreciated your comments in regards to what the notion of FLERFS leads to other types of conspiracy theories. It’s crazy to me to even hear this nonsense!
What really makes my brain hurt with these people is that it seems like most of them are Young Earth Creationists. Creationism and flat earth just don't mix. Tho, young earth creationists are pretty much the most f'd in the head when it comes to religious fundamentalists.
At least organized religions have a code they’re supposed to abide by, makes them a little bit less unpredictable. Flerfs don’t have a code, they don’t have a model, they don’t even all believe in the same principles, they only have EARTH PIZZA and some half baked conspiracies in common. I guess we gotta thank our lucky stars for that, if they were better organized they’d probably be able to recruit a lot more people and be a bigger movement instead of only being constantly ostracized from society.
Actually I don't think most of them actually are Christians at all. They adopt the title and throw around a few Christianese words but when you ask them which church they go to or trump-like questions about the Bible, they flounder. I'm an actual Christian and I don't recognise them at all.
He thinks believing in Flat Earth will help him break out of the Matrix But if he believes he is in the Matrix, then the Earth is a simulation, and neither Globe or Flat....
His ignorance of what a star is during that debate thing got me. Didn’t he say it was just fire? In space? Somehow burning with no oxygen? I have no idea.
Why don't Sovereign Citizens just come right out and say wtf they are: Anarchists? They already have the courage to stand up against judges and police in courts. Why not just one tiny step further?
"Unclear" weapons! The only time I ever saw armed Marines on the flight deck, was in '88, onboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71, sitting in Guantanamo Bay (after "precision anchoring"), while some of the F-14 and F-18 squadrons (or possibly could've been the A-6/EA-6B birds) were loading nuke missiles. I was an avionics tech with the S-3 Viking squadron (VS-24) so was unfamiliar with nukes. Surreal, nerve-wracking day. "Nukes are fake"...my ass! ✌️🌎⚓
I get the feeling that's what it's all about - these FE cult leaders want to sell real estate beyond the ice wall to their followers. The ultimate scam.
I think that he's referring to Romans 1:20, which contains a critique of people who were Christian, but decide to reject God. (I'm an Agnostic who is interested in Biblical history....)
Folks like this will embrace any conspiracy theory into their own in an attempt to widen the net and scam as many gullible marks as they can. It's all a grift!
I wonder if he knows which corporation he's registered to. What happens if that corporation goes under? Do they transfer your ownership to another one? This guy is just too dumb for words.
@@thirdeyenz the brainrot sov cits use is they arent required to follow laws because the US government became a corporation like 100 years ago or something along those lines
That’s a fact tho, anyone can look up the case Susan b Anthony, vs United States. And read you are born into a corporation. Black people become subjects or property to congress this is clear defined case law bro. So yes you are born in a corporation
Another question: if half the world is fooling the other half, how are they able to stay so organized and communicate their conspiracy so seamlessly without being discovered?
They send motivational speakers around the world, establish schools to train new recruits (usually starting by the age of five), distribute books containing the material people are expected to believe, hold regular indoctrination sessions, and limit contact between their members and outsiders. Oh, were you talking about the flat Earth conspiracy theory?
"It's hard to control people who have a connection to god." Sure Dave. Historically, religion has been one of the easiest and most effective ways to control people's thoughts and behavior.
He literally just insulted everyone in Japan and everyone of Japanese decent. Yes, I know that modern nuclear bombs are more advanced than the bombs used in WW2, but they're close enough. Is he denying that the US dropped nuclear bombs in WW2? SMH
It always comes back to "but muh god says...." Every flerf I have seen who tries to explain "why" comes to the same answer: "to keep people from God." What I have yet to hear one "explain" is how a globe Earth does that. Or are they saying that their "almighty" god is incapable of creating something more complex than their kindergarten view?
Best counter for them, the verses they use to claim a flat earth with a dome are not direct translations. Translating by the meanings of those verses, the Bible says the earth is a spinning ball in a vacuum.
David: It's about control. **one minute later** David: It's about money. **another minute later** David: It's about G-d. **yet another minute later** David: It's about population control. **and in the final minute** David: It's about stifling imagination and creativity. Jesus Christ, David. PICK A LANE!!!
It's about making a living selling BS to gullible/lost people when doing legitimate work that contributes to society failed to make you rich and important... What? Too serious, and on point? Sorry. Carry on.
It's funny how they talk about a globe earth "lie" in a unimaginably huge universe is solely to limit humans, when their own flat earth belief is totally and utterly limiting. A flat earth, inside a dome, with no space outside it, just the flat earth and nothing else, no other planets, stars, galaxies. Totally bizarre.
"they" dont want you to think big, "they" want to limit your imagination...
Really? "They" tell me i live in a vast, nearly unlimited, ever expanding universe that can be researched and explored if i only think big and creative enough.
He is telling me i live on a plane, surrounded by an immense, unpassable wall, covered by an inpenetrable dome to "free" our imagination...😮
Yeah... Sounds legit. 🤣
So since the earth is flat, there is no Global Warming? Gotta have a globe for that...
He thinks the All-Powerful Lord only made a snow dome... as opposed to a vast universe?
@@konstellashon1364exactly! A lot of flerfs in reality are blasphemous against their own God by saying his own creation can hide something like a divine being that spoke life into existence there are other examples but that’s the one they stay using to justify their nonsense
@@brizzle3903 Ever hear the one about dino fossils being carved by tHe DEviL to trick us? And the Lord lets him?
@@brizzle3903flerfs really stand for nothing but Flat Earth. They denounce their own Gods just for this cult of Flat Earth.
There’s no way you’d think a spinning ball would be too much for God to do or that space is too crazy to exist?!
As an ex-security officer, I've heard so much nonsense from people on drugs and being intoxicated, and they make more sense than this guy.
I regularly get both drunk AND high and I don't start spouting trash like this. 🤦
@@diarmuidkuhle8181that’s cause you don’t believe it of course
@@sederquest ...because it's 100% nonsense that anyone with properly working brains wouldn't believe.
@@diarmuidkuhle8181 Honestly, I'd pay to watch you and David in the same room; you high as a kite, drunk as a sailor on leave and him stone cold sober just to see who makes the most sense. I'd give 3:1 it's still you.
As someone who spent much of their adult life consuming illicit drugs, I deeply resent that remark. Hell, I doubt I'd have the educational qualifications I have otherwise - which is probably an indication of the actual meaninglessness of higher education rather than the constructiveness of illicit drugs.
And I really wish people would stop trying to delineate alcohol and illicit drugs with tautological phrases like, "on drugs and being intoxicated". Softening the language around alcohol and a societal tendency to separate it from illicit drugs is a big part of why its devastating impact on society is so sadly tolerated.
5:02 "I walked away from my American dream because this is the most important topic of our time."
No Dave. You walked away from the corporate meatgrinder because you discovered you could have a comfortable and far less stressful life grifting off sad, vulnerable, deluded people.
this actually gets to the heart of the matter - if I had time and money and truly believed I was being deceived I would move heaven & earth (pun intended) to demonstrate this fact. I would learn everything I could about surveying including hiring a professional and equipment to train me up and then go and make my own measurements. But of course if I did that I would quickly discover that oh sh*t we really are on a globe of the size they teach us.
This is why I know he is a liar and scam artist.
He didn't walk away from anything. He super successful company never existed. He's just lying.
Or its a coping mechanism because his business failed
@@Fred2-123he doesn't come acrossed as someone who is super successful at business.
When you talk to someone whose really good at business you get it.
@@vinyllpreviews9462 And, when you speak to someone who has never really achieved much you know it, pretty much irrespective of what they tell you.
"Register us to a corporation at birth"?
So, on top of being a flat earther, he's a sovereign citizen?
What a combo...
They go hand in hand.
Apparently he's also one of those that thinks The Truman Show is one of those "hidden in plain sight" documentaries.
Gullibility is seen as a positive by these people.
Yeah.. its so bad to be sovereign… those crazy freedom seeking souls
And atmic bombs i.e. nuclear weapons are fake according to DIRT Apparently DIRT likes to grift ALL the conspiracy theories.
And there you have it. Flat Earth is a religion. It's not science. Right at the start, he spells it out for everyone. It's all about his creator. It's not about facts. It's not about reality. The flat Earth is a way for him to align with his beliefs, because if flat Earth is wrong, his conspiracy falls apart, and so do his beliefs.
With Weiss, it is all about the money he gets from it. Amongst other ways of getting his income from flat earth, he sells an app which doesn't work.
Exactly, if reality doesn't match his beliefs, he will ditch reality, and that is one dangerous and deluded individual.
Flat earthers are a cult
Religion?! Please don't insult religion like that.. flat earth IS A DELUSION... can't even say it's a cult since a cult needs a charismatic figure head AND HAS SOME THOUGHT IN REGARDS TO TRICK PEOPLE INTO IT AND HAVE SOME END GOAL.
... and his business. Let's not beat around the bush, many of these guys are in it for the money. Everybody wants to see an obvious fool and eyeballs on videos pay money these days.
“If you live in a small world you have small thoughts”, there is a lot of irony here. They believe we live on a flat Earth with a dome over the top of it with the military stopping us from going past the ice wall. Most people know we live in an expanding universe of unimaginable size. So who is it that lives in a small world?
AFAIK no military stopped either Scott or Armundsen trekking to the South Pole early last century
@@belperflyer7419 Scott _was_ military. But Amundsen still beat him.
Exactly my thought!! This is so ironic!
Yes, Flerffers will from henceforth be euphemistically known as Master Ironists.
@@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286 ... Scott may have had a military background but no-one stopped his expedition - sadly, the environment did in the end.
There is one reason for Dave's existence. To make money from gullible people.
To push his clock app. That's it. That's the one and only reason he does this.
"A fool and his money are easily parted".
Good money in Flat Earth. Mugs, plates, posters and YT Channels.
“If you’re trapped in a globe of limitations” or what “If you’re trapped on a flat plain of limitations” is there any difference Dave? Science and a sceptical approach to seeking truth that is what keeps you from living in a world locked within a frame of prescribed blind faith to the Sky God and his limitations
Dave is an example of why we had to remove lead from paint.
Removing lead from gasoline has tracked exactly with a reduction in criminal activity where ever it was done.
I wonder what it is that makes people contrary against all evidence?
Peanuts?
@@stevetheduck1425 damn you are stupid. It correlated when most of the auto industry transitioned from carbureted to fuel injected engines. I guess that MAJOR REVOLUTION is anecdotal, not what you say but can’t prove. Of course the entire automotive and driving world can prove otherwise. Nah, we’re all wrong, you got the golden ticket.
You should be a fucking trillionaire if you are the smartest .000000000137% of the population!
@@stevetheduck1425Breathing Lead= brain damage.
@@stevetheduck1425 i don't think they are being contrarian. they aren't saying that lead is good for you lol. just that people are stupid and eat paint chips.
In his case, it doesn't seem to have worked.
The easiest and quickest way to control the people is to use religion. He sounds like a cult leader spouting his cult.
most flat earthers sound like cult leaders once they get into that inner circle or flat earth creators.
Then he needs to do a better job. He's not very charismatic and he doesn't have a goal. Even if it's stupid, all cults need a goal.
That’s because he *is* a wannabe cult leader trying to take over leadership of a cult.
@@jnewcomb Not necessarily. A goal is not actually a requirement for cults, many have one (or more) but some don't. Cults can just be a set of beliefs.
In this case though I believe he has a goal... Make as many people as he can believe in flat earth and make money off them...
ganz genau!
"You can't control people who have a relationship with God" I'm pretty sure that's the most exploitable group of people on planet Earth
That is so true. Look how many people get rich taking advantage of religious gullibility.
I'm pretty sure the whole point of organised religion has always been a tool to control the masses
True. Too bad flerfers are such a small percentage of the religious population. This guy could afford to move out of mom's basement.
Religions are only for controlling.
I dunno. It genetally isn't religious people confused about what washrooms to use, or demanding a litter box.
Did he really claim that the NASA budget was bigger than the entire media industry? Worldwide sales for electronic games alone are well in excess of ten times bigger than the NASA budget.
From what i understood, it seemed like he meant to include all games, movies and also all space agencies
Well he showed "space". I suspect he's included money spent on anything that goes into space, so communications, GPS, meteorology, etc., etc.
Man clearly thinks Todd Howard is a NASA employee and Bethesda is just NASA's secret way to fund the "globe agenda."
To inject a couple of US-centric examples:
NASA annual budget: $25 billion (= 1000 million)
US federal budget: $1.6 trillion (= million million)
National Football League annual revenue: $19 billion
National Basketball Association annual revenue: $11 billion
Major League Baseball annual revenue: $12 billion
And one world-wide example;
Video Game industry annual revenue: $184 billion!
Exxon annual revenue: $384 billion
NASA needs to make a video game by the sound of it. Let us pay to fly drones in empty space, in VR, just to mess with flerfers.
If they want us to feel trapped, wouldnt it be easier to say space is fake and we live in a dome or something? Wait
"Thinking we live on a globe limits the sense of exploration." So instead of the frontier of space he puts a dome over the earth. That guy is a poster child of the failure of the American education system.
His shirt makes it all the more ironic. And he will never realize it...
he might believe that its' an infinite plane without the dome. but in both cases he somehow has zero inclination to go look at the edge of known world. so he talks about exploration just to talk exploration, with no actual exploration desires.
more than that he claims the group of other people that are against him know whats there. and those people include basically all people.
Exactly what I was thinking. The dome, the ice wall, even the "use" of the military are all ways that these flerfs place limits on the flat earth, thereby protecting their story against reality.
Dave Weiss is a grifter. Flat earth is just a means for him to make money from gullible people around the globe.
Wrong, it's not the failure of the American Education as majority of people who went through that education have lived and aren't living in a delusion. It is more of he is the poster child of the internet giving loser scums a platform and to connect with other loser scums.
“The evidence is unreal.” -Dirth
“Literally.” -Reality
"trapped on a globe" says the guy who claims we live on a dirt frisbee under a glass dome that spaceships can't break through.
David wants to live in a snow globe. Course, he'd try to prove it was a snow flat...
@@jnewcomb I stopped short of referring to it as a snow globe, but yes, he has us in a snow globe.
@@kenbrown2808 He'd still say it was flat though.
Some Flerfers do believe that "beyond the ice wall" there is a massive amount of more Earth. With Nazis and giants and vikings and whatnot living there. ...But I think that is a minority even among the Flerfers.
@@Asko83 .
The simple fact is that flat earthers have no agreed idea of what a flat earth would actually look like and how it would work. The only thing they have together is that the Earth is not a globe.
It's like seeing a prisoner behind bars telling you he's the one who's really free 🤔
I'm a Christian. Accepting the reality of a globe does nothing to "hide" the existence of God. 😂
It's a grift
My Christian faith is not affected by the shape and age of the Earth.
If I believed in that one I fail to see how something seemingly so arbitrary as a ball could hide it. I don't get it either
I'd rather have a god that can make a 3d sphere than a pizza.. 😂
The irony is that all these space telescopes/probes etc have done nothing but ENHANCE the grandeur and glory of the universe, not diminish it.
Whether you attribute it all to a god, or to natural processes, you cannot deny that the beauty of the universe has been revealed by space exploration.
7:30 the irony of saying you can’t control people who believe in god. 🤦🏼♂️
He is correct in regards to Christianity though. It's why the Nazis targeted it. It's why Communists target Christianity. It's why atheists will Target Christianity. Even other religions will target, christianity.
For all those words, I don't think I heard a single coherent thought from David.
Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown,
And things seem hard or tough,
And people are stupid, obnoxious or daft,
And you feel that you've had quite eno-o-o-o-o-ough,
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour.
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
'Round the sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day,
In an outer spiral arm, at fourteen thousand miles an hour,
Of a galaxy we call the Milky Way.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars;
It's a hundred thousand light-years side to side;
It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick,
But out by us it's just three thousand light-years wide.
We're thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point,
We go 'round every two hundred million years;
And our galaxy itself is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.
The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding,
In all of the directions it can whiz;
As fast as it can go, the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!
- Monty Python
His answer, if you can even call it that, was entirely made of gobbledygook from start to finish. As you said he said a lot of words but there was no coherent thought strung across them whatsoever. I think the people who sat there and accepted that answer probably are victims of this guy slowly grinding their IQ to single digits. Because you have to be pretty far into FE to listen to that and not think yourself. "This guy is a sandwich short of a lunch."
he went from a simple question to full conspiracy theorist mode.
Well to be a flerf one kinda needs there to be a conspiracy from all governments and all scientists to push for the ball instead of the pizza...
Of course he did. The conspiracy is the actual point; that's what he meant when he said "it's not about the shape, it's about the lie."
he did answer the question though, by rambling into 30 other dumb conspiracys he demonstrated that the reason for push back against flerf is because they then buy into evryyyythinggg else.
"You dilute something by putting it into something bigger; like infinite space." Also, "they are trapping us in a small world to limit our imagination." OK. So, they're diluting reality by telling us the universe is infinite...in order to limit our imagination to a small world. Got it...I think. 🤣
Caught that contradiction too, and it's about the 7th stupidest thing he said in that video.
I couldn't understand him the first few times, because he pronounces "dilute" as "delude".
Your thoughts create your reality? I'M A MULTI BILLIONAIRE, I'M A MULTI BILLIONAIRE...
Can I borrow 5 bucks
Is it working? 😂
Is that you, Elon?
Is it working yet?
...I have a mansion and a yacht, I have a mansion and a yacht...
DIRT should be hiding in shame after being destroyed by Professor Dave Farina.
Absolutely. I go back to that video every now and then for the laughs. 😂
@@massey4business me too.
@@massey4business exactly! he was "massacred" by Professor Dave. i kept laughing when he said Spectroscopy needs a container, something like that. lol!
"Spectroscopy only works on a gas", "gasses require a container". They truly have no clue at all...
It’s amazing that he’s still got any respect at all from anyone after that. It was a total humiliation.
He's right, the evidence of trillions of people on earth is unreal.
You're just trying to hide god, aren't you?😁
@@Aleks-dg9cxyou got me. I have him tied up in my basement
Notice how they never show this evidence
Oh no. “Registering us at birth to a corporation”. It’s the inevitable sovereign citizen BS overlap. 🤦♂️
Yeah and the 'natural law' thrown in there as well. Couple of SC calling cards right there
Yep. That pinged my radar, too.
Any bets on how long before he goes to jail for tax fraud?
Not at all surprised he's a sovcit too
Flat Earth and SoBCit are just symptoms: the disease is gullibility.
Wow, next thing I know he will show up in a TikTok video refusing to show his driver's license because he was just "travelling" at 100mph and doesn't have to stop at stop signs.
2,500 years ago people knew the earth was round.
Devolution is real.
And IQ seems to have become inversely proportion to the rise of social media on the internet...
The invention of the Internet meant stupidity can gain a hold again.
It’s crazy, isn’t it!
The savages were right, we should all be chilin’ and trippin’ and lovin’ each other.
The biggest problem is that it gives the village idiot a soapbox so tall that he can be heard by all the other village idiots from all around the world.
Well that's a half dozen IQ points I won't get back.
I award him no points
What he described as limited thinking is exactly the flat earth mentality.
"Hard to control people who have a connection to God"🤦
That really is the definition of ironic🤣🤣🤣😋
“It’s hard to control people who have a connection to god!” Religious leaders and many different ’churches’ have done more to control people than astronomers, geographers and navigators ever have!
I came here to say this. I feel like historically the most controllable people are indeed religious
It’s really kind of the point of and why religion was created in the first place
@@JBG1968 I wouldn't say that. But it's certainly evolved to control people
Just visited Dave's web page. On the home page he has a number of maps copied from Google Earth, maps generated from satellite images and data collected from space as they literally orbit the planet.
“They” make TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS of dollars selling all those globes!
"...they immediately register us to a corporation at birth..." - Flat Earth Dave subscribes to the Sovereign Citizen pseudolaw dogma, too. Figures.
Name a silly theory and Dave's fully bought in
There is also the view of some in the US that since some date in the past they are not a nation but a corporation. I think it's something to do with the restoration after the civil war. "Real' presidents existed up to that date and since then they are all fake or pretend presidents.
Once you become a flat Earther you are immediately registered with every crackpot conspiracy theory going.
I thought that when I heard it too
I used to be LEO, I caught that red flag immediately.
"He who created it, owns it" Did he really repurpose "He who smelt it dealt it"
I knew somebody would have beaten me to it !!
Also pretty sure the copyright period for our universe has lapsed, so it is definitely public domain by now.
But, amazingly, that supposed creator can't control it, and a secret, unseen cabal of "them" is able to mislead nearly the entire human population with a few CGI pictures and the creator-god thing can't do squat about it.
Puny god.
lol. I thought the same thing
The "to hide God" argument in near to blasphemy to me. It makes God truly pathetic. Their god, who instead of making an unfathomable vast universe, could only manage a magic terrarium, can be hidden by a bunch of guys in suits.
Their idea of God is extremely limited, as befits their limited idea of the scale of the universe, confined under the dome over the flat earth. Small thinking by small minds . . .
I have an amusing thought of a flat earther dying and meeting God with God wanting to know why the flerf believes he is only capable of creating a flat dish with a lid on top.
Spot on. Though not a believer myself, the wonders of the natural world and the intricacies (and mysteries) of science would reinforce my faith.
Spot on about the blasphemy too. Taking the lord's name in vain, bearing false witness, and cherry picking literal interpretations from KJV are guaranteeing him a very hot destiny.
Giordano Bruno expressed many of the same ideas, which were part of the reason the Catholic Church had him burned at the stake.
It is absolutely blasphemous since one of the pillars of their faith is an almighty god. Not so almighty then, if so easily hideable.
The first sentence that came out of Weiss' mouth was enough for me to understand that he's a total loon. A dangerous loon.
spreading deadly poison that causes confusion and conflict and destroys jobs, relationships and even lives. He's a real dick.
I’m a Christian but I still trust the scientists to know how the world works and what the shape of the Earth is.
You mean you can't deduce for yourself that the earth is a globe? Or at least not a flat disk? You're telling me you don't have powers of observation to inform you that the world can't be flat? You need scientists to tell you that which should be obvious?
That makes you slightly smarter then Dave. Well one hurdle is taken you already discredit the bible in favor of facts. Now continue doing that and leave christianity.
Me too. I also believe that revelation requires reason and rationalism. God exists but gives us reason to understand creation and develop laws to describe and understand it. For me the scientific endeavour outlines the majesty of our incredible universe. This clown is saying that Einstein, Newton, in fact all Astro physicists and quantum physicists, and all the experimentation and observations are wrong. With no supporting evidence. We may have a slightly different perspective Dan, but love your work showing these dangerous and ignorant people up for what they are.
I am Christian tons went to believe things centrist say but there’s a lot still hat try to disprove GoD through science. God create science and fav team the mind to figure it out lol. I feel like if we were on a round surface after thinking about like wouldn’t we be upside down and sideways in certain areas? Lol ijs but also t the same time I feel if GOD wants us to be in a dome that has several different layers to it hence he can do what he wants he made us.
I will not leave Christianity for the avenue of good it offers and I've used. I just deplore people who forces their belief for AND against Christianity as well as other religions. Heck, I've seen just as bad people in Christianity as it is in Megacorporates. Even Jesus had to dealt with them until death in His Time.
Bible is made of poems and interpretative history - not word-to-word accurate history. It's a belief, a record but not accurate history.
I wish you well, and be wise. But I'm afraid my foresight didn't predict well for some people in this reply.
Trillions?
"There's so much evidence of that, it's unreal." He's absolutely correct. It's unreal. Incredible. Literally, incredible.
"THEY ARE TRYING TO HIDE GOD" 🤣😂🤣 I think "God's" got that one covered 🤣😂🤣😂
diluate, he said even
That got progressively more insane than I expected it could…
Yes! Another Face-palm Friday. Thanks Dan! 👍
I'm suing for damages to my face.... lol
FACEDESK FACEDESK FACEDESK
This reasoning is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. The Bible isn't a scientific textbook. Gah...the stupidity is reaching critical mass! Ahhh, Dave is now a stupidity singularity.
"you are registered into a corporation at birth and if you live on their ball field, you play by their rules and thats how they control us" - David Weiss on the perfect definition of religion! Your religion and god all depends on where you were born, which playing field you were registered to.
His line of reasoning outs him as a Sovereign Citizen, which is the PoliSci equivalent of flat earth.
@@gregorybrannan7202 I caught that language, too! He knows their script.
"if you live in a small world" - that's exactly what flat earth is. The reality is, that we live in an almost endlessly big universe, which motives us to explore.
I never understood the advantage of convincing people the earth is a globe.
"Extra conspiratorial baggage" - after listening to Davids answer ... yeah, you're 100% right about that.
Says they use globe and space to make us feel trapped, but believes we're on a domed dish with way less space
Well there's that "outer land". And once that's gone, *more* outer land! Let's not let the fact that there's no such thing hold us back. And we are trapped, not by a dome but by distance and gravity. We *could* colonize other worlds eventually but that's quite a long shot. Probably we'll never make it. The fact that we exist and are able to ask such questions is a remarkable gift (and a bit a a curse) that we fail to appreciate.
A "globe of limitations" in infinitely expanding space... 😂😂
You might fail to appreciate. Don't lump my wrinkled up brain with the flat ones
@@jeremybutcher6418 Sorry!
So, they know there's fertile, unpolluted, uninhabited land out there? Why don't they move there?
Because "they" don't want you to.
It's why they make those stupid videos about how they're being caught by a coast guard trying to prevent them from entering treacherous waters far away from land.
Oh, he makes this point here 11:05
So predictable. So dumb.
Maybe there are those other 2,94 trillion people living in there, and not letting us in there. 😆
This guy, DITwhatever, is so far in his scam and lying to others, that he can't even see, or hear, how idiotic his claims are. Nor can he understand numers at slightest, I doubt he knows hiw many zeros are there in a trillion.😂
@@louieberg2942 dumb indeed. "They" would definitely want to exploit the resources from such fertile place and to do that, "they" definitely would need people to colonize the place ffs. The resources aren't going to gather and process themselves and "they" wouldn't touch a tool or do a second of real work even if it was the last resort to staying alive.
They can't get past the laser equipped penguins, obvs.
If it's flat, why can't I see Mount Everest from my bedroom window?
Obvious, your curtains are closed and stellar copulating refraction and other important sounding words, of course multiplied by Bs3 divided by Pie, Apple not cherry though, and well the best answer is NuhUhh!
Even better if your bedroom window is in New Delhi, because you can't see it from there, either.
Because NASA painted over it so you couldn't. DUH!
Perspective
@@nugboy420 You mean flerfspective. You're welcome.
Globally there was only approx. 71 billion spent on space exploration and research in 2018. Over 530 billion spent on beauty products world wide in the same period.
And the US military spent 639 billion.
And again these space deniers cannot handle that the Universe is infinite, because that wont allow room for their egos.
I'm not sure about that... I would have thought a flat Earth with a dome wasn't enough room for their egos.
@@chrisantoniou4366 Oh come on, do you really think the flerfs understand the concept of irony
After all they have no grasp of self awareness or projection!
DITRH is a sucker for self humiliation.
It's fundamental to their business model.
DIRT
You‘ll never get a straight answer from these cult leaders. The reason why is always „god“ and scripture.
He's a grifter. I also highly doubt his claim that he was a very successful businessman. Yeah, he made tons of money. That's why he needs to hawk flat earth on social media.
I have a buddy with whom I shared an apartment for a couple of years. he's a nice guy, clean-cut, and very responsible, maybe except for not taking good care of my cat when I was away for a week. The one crazy thing about him was that he was a hardcore conspiracy theorist. You know, the Illuminati, the Lizard People, the faked Moon Landings, the whole shebang. Well, he was in town for a sporting event a few years back. We hung out one day and he came up to me and asked me: Ray, what's the deal with all these Flat Earth people? My jaw dropped and I felt like busting out laughing. If I recall, I looked at him like he was crazy. I felt like asking him: Are you serious? You don't believe in the Flat Earth? I just kind of chuckled though and said I don't know.
Maybe he was testing the waters, wanted to see your reaction
Another question the flerfs really need a decent answer for:
If they legitimately proved to us all that the Earth is actually flat …. What **exactly** would change?
your third eye would open and we start shiting bricks
The biggest change would be that the grifter flerfs (as opposed to the “true believers”) would have to find a proper job, or at least find another source of income.
The Flat earth movement has been hijacked by Christian extremists so they believe the government is hiding the fact the Bible is real
@@marylynne9104 I'm pretty sure they'd all try to convince us the Earth was round again. Anything beats getting a real job.
@@danielgehring7437 🤣
Not believing in the globe is equal to not believing in physics. You can't believe in physics and in a flat earth.
Yes, you can. True science actually supports a stationary earth. Geocentric.
@wardrobegirl67 no... planetary movements wouldn't work. All sorts of forces just wouldn't work (corriolis effect, for example), many formations and such wouldn't make sense. Gravity doesn't work in a geocentric model
You can't believe in science and in a flat earth, they are contradictory.
@@wardrobegirl67 Liar liar pants on fire.
@wardrobegirl67 try actually taking some science courses before stating something else even more dumb than you just did.
@@wardrobegirl67 Yet the moon, the Sun and all the other plants are sphere shaped. Only we are flat? Should have stayed awake in science class. Blow a bubble. What shape does it automatically take? Spherical. Why? Equal pressure acting on it in all directions. The same as he Moon, the Sun and yes, the Earth. It's virtually impossible for our planet to be any other shape then what it is, spherical.
"They" do it to hide god, "They" aren't very good at it are "they", almost as bad an argument as the "'They' are doing this to silence us!", I wish "they" did silence them, imagine how quiet it'd be then!
I never understood when people say that, wouldn't it make more sense to use religion to control people like why try and hide the fact the Bible is real seems like it's just making it harder for you
I loved the seamless transition from blaming Satan to They. So... Satan needs a team, I guess? He's basically Evil Zordon?
@@danielgehring7437 go go carnal rangers
Makes me laugh when they say that. Which god? If it's the god of the bible, then why are non Christian countries making satellites and space crafts? Haha
@@katieheys3007 same when people say giants existed but the Smithsonian is hiding the bones ....the Smithsonian has it is their answer to everything when you ask them for proof
I’m always torn, does he make up this garbage for the money? Or does he make up this garbage because he wants it to be true.
Probably a little (lot) of column A and a little of column B
Both probably
I think it’s both . At first it was for the money from grifting . Then it evolved into I must be so smart because I’m different . Then he fell for his own grift and fully just believes it now
"Small world = Small thoughts" - Said by the man that thinks we're trapped by an ice wall whereas the rest of us believe in an ever-expanding universe.
And they are trapped under a dome.
"Hard to control people that have a connection to God" - said by the guy who denies common sense because a book tells him to.
And their pastors, religion is the absolute best way to control people by far
"If you want to become a millionaire, start a religion.", L. Ron Hubbard.
@@Batlafication and abuse them
Exactly my first thought. The easiest people to control are religious. They're already primed to believe on blind faith, no evidence required, and doctrine.
Religion was created to control people through fear, I wonder if he'd change his tune if the bible said the earth was a globe?
That’s it. Im going to start a Gofundme campaign to send Eric Dubay to the ISS so he can come back and write another book called, “ Im stupid, I thought the Earth was Flat”.
Wouldn't it be better is he just stayed out there? A book about him being the last one to get a clue would be useless.
He's more likely to write a book called "how They tricked me into thinking the Earth was round".
@@riconui5227as long as he stays on the outside of the ISS. He will deny everything he sees out there. Even if he somehow converted flerfs will turn on him on a dime.
We don't want to pollute space by sending flerfs
A waste of money.
"Why would Flat Earth Dave lie?" Answer: It's a living.
“on the app…”
That’s his agenda right there. Buy my stuff.
It's funny how they think that if you believe the earth is round then you must also believe everything the government does and says. 😂😂
Well, we are all registered to a corporation, so ....................
WTF does that even mean? "registered to a corporation at birth"
@@Fred2-123 Its the core belief for Sovereign Citizens. It is just a grift with a bunch of weird beliefs, but it has much more clear goal and payoff for the people who get involved in it. Basically, the overarching idea is that (if you are US born) you only have to follow US law because you were registered to a corporation (or as a corporation) through you social security number when you were born. However, if you buy my book and other legal materials, and follow the convoluted steps I lay out, you too can free yourself from the government's lies and no longer have to abide by laws, get a driver's license, comply with law enforcement, or even pay taxes.
@@johncarpenter440 Yes. And oddly enough judges disagree and give them fines and jail terms.
@@Fred2-123obviously they're all part of the conspiracy too
@@Fred2-123 Weird how that works.
"Register us to a corporation at birth" is Sovereign Citizen non-sense. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Yup, David is probably part of the QAnon or something, he just keeps threading the lines through all the conspiracies
You’re right he also used the term “natural law” which is classic SovCit nonsense.
SovCit is probably the only movement as dumb as flerfs tbh, makes sense Dave is in both.
He said "they do it to hide god" meanwhile Christianity is unfortunately the biggest religion
"If you live in a small world, you have small thoughts. If you live in fear you're afraid."
But this guy thinks we live on a disk under a dome, and he's a god fearing christian.........!?
Funny coming from someone who thinks the rest of the uniiverse is just lights in the sky.
But sounds about right. Religion folks are usually the most gullable.
The saddest thing is that there are too many people willing to believe him.
I loved Red Dwarfs scene where they say that a missing page of the bible has been found that says “to my darling Candy, all characters portrayed in this book are fictitious any resemblance to anyone living or dead is a coincidence” lol
Amusing.
But isn't it actually more like a collection of writings from a bunch of different authors over the span of a couple hundred years? (And that's before you get into the translations and re-translations over the following centuries, often guided by the ruling leadership at the time to tweak the new version's teachings to their liking.)
@@MuljoStpho NO!! iT iz da lidERul Woooooooooord of da LAWWWWDDDDDDDDD...
@@MuljoStpho Technically, yes, but that spoils the joke.
So if I believe the word is flat I don’t have to go to work today. I’m going to call the bank and let them know the earth is flat so I won’t be paying off my loans anymore. See how that goes
Why would flerfs lie about the shape of the earth... Why is History Channel airing "ancient aliens"? Why does the church exist? =💰💰💰
😊👍
The world is shaped like a manhole cover, and God lives in the sewers like a Ninja Turtle. NASA doesn't want us to find him.
There is an overlap between profit and entertainment, but grift is just exploiting
@@ahboazAll religions are exploitation of ignorance and a grift based on gullibility.
1 control and money, 2 just money, 3 equal as 1
DIRT is painfully dumb.
At this point I just tell flat earthers to stop denying god and embrace the enormous creation god has given us to explore for ever
They believe the extent of God’s creation is essentially a snow globe
The Creation IS the creator, it doesn't need a god.
Wow!
I honestly can’t deal with the DITRH insanity!
I’ve seen the horizon dozens of times. I’ve seen the curve.
I really appreciated your comments in regards to what the notion of FLERFS leads to other types of conspiracy theories.
It’s crazy to me to even hear this nonsense!
As suspected, we're not arguing with flat earthers, we're arguing with religious fundamentalists.
What really makes my brain hurt with these people is that it seems like most of them are Young Earth Creationists. Creationism and flat earth just don't mix. Tho, young earth creationists are pretty much the most f'd in the head when it comes to religious fundamentalists.
At least organized religions have a code they’re supposed to abide by, makes them a little bit less unpredictable.
Flerfs don’t have a code, they don’t have a model, they don’t even all believe in the same principles, they only have EARTH PIZZA and some half baked conspiracies in common.
I guess we gotta thank our lucky stars for that, if they were better organized they’d probably be able to recruit a lot more people and be a bigger movement instead of only being constantly ostracized from society.
Actually I don't think most of them actually are Christians at all. They adopt the title and throw around a few Christianese words but when you ask them which church they go to or trump-like questions about the Bible, they flounder. I'm an actual Christian and I don't recognise them at all.
He thinks believing in Flat Earth will help him break out of the Matrix
But if he believes he is in the Matrix, then the Earth is a simulation, and neither Globe or Flat....
Shout your Mouth - THEY are Reading These Comments 😂
he wants to break out from the matrix to join the religion matrix and never be free
@@tomdreler6528 Shout or Shut? Quite a difference
I long ago stopped giving a feck about "they/them"
aaaa...the "spectroscopy needs to be in a container" guy....this is fun
His ignorance of what a star is during that debate thing got me. Didn’t he say it was just fire? In space? Somehow burning with no oxygen? I have no idea.
Why don't Sovereign Citizens just come right out and say wtf they are: Anarchists?
They already have the courage to stand up against judges and police in courts. Why not just one tiny step further?
Because they are not
Watching Dave is like watching Mike Pillow. He just talks and talks, yet never says anything.
I suspect their political leanings are quite well aligned too.
The noticeable overlap of flerf belief and a fundamentalist approach to religion is the least surprising thing in the world.
What on Earth is he waffling on about?!?! He’s such a pleb this bloke.
You're being too kind, good sir/madam.
I can think of 10 harsher terms that more adequately summarise this unintellectual turd burglar.
"More to hide god" This is when it all becomes about faith and once faith enters the arena all proof, evidence, and simple thinking are traded away.
To think, I wasted all those years in SAC believing I was working with nuclear weapons.
All that time I spent training to respond to an incident if a "special weapon" was mishandled. Siily me.
"Unclear" weapons!
The only time I ever saw armed Marines on the flight deck, was in '88, onboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71, sitting in Guantanamo Bay (after "precision anchoring"), while some of the F-14 and F-18 squadrons (or possibly could've been the A-6/EA-6B birds) were loading nuke missiles. I was an avionics tech with the S-3 Viking squadron (VS-24) so was unfamiliar with nukes. Surreal, nerve-wracking day. "Nukes are fake"...my ass! ✌️🌎⚓
Trillions of people? Ah they must have made it over the "ice wall" and left 8 billion sheeople behind....
DIRT has a real problem with numbers. Most flerfs do
I get the feeling that's what it's all about - these FE cult leaders want to sell real estate beyond the ice wall to their followers. The ultimate scam.
As a bible believer I can tell you that there is no verse in the Bible that even remotely says what he is claiming.
And i’m certain you don’t know your book enough and that there are verses that can support his claims.
I think that he's referring to Romans 1:20, which contains a critique of people who were Christian, but decide to reject God. (I'm an Agnostic who is interested in Biblical history....)
How does the "Finder Card" work if the wallet has RFID blocking technology???!!!
Why do these supposed Christians deny the universe if it’s all part of God’s glory, makes no sense
How could you possibly know what the majority of Christians actually think in regards to the universe?
This guy is one step away from standing on a street corner ranting into a bullhorn.🤪
No, he's a grifter, not a loon. He deliberately lies to get people to pay him money, rather than rant and rave to the universe at large.
Basically already is as he's standing in his Basement Ranting into a Microphone
The internet is yesterday's soapbox with a greater reach.
"It's hard to control people that have connection to god." Hahahahaha :) With all the nonsense this dude is peddling, this has to be the funniest one.
Religious people are the most gullible, easily manipulated people there are, lol. Wow that dude is projecting hard.
Funny how military spending isn't on his chart, considering the US military alone gets over twice the money of all space travel combined. :)
Space hoax is a huge money laundering operation. Billions go to private pockets
registered to a corporation at birth not only is he a flat earther but he is using the sovereign citizen terminology
Yeah, I noticed that (checking my own, embedded microchip--yep, it's still there!).
Folks like this will embrace any conspiracy theory into their own in an attempt to widen the net and scam as many gullible marks as they can. It's all a grift!
I wonder if he knows which corporation he's registered to. What happens if that corporation goes under? Do they transfer your ownership to another one? This guy is just too dumb for words.
@@thirdeyenz the brainrot sov cits use is they arent required to follow laws because the US government became a corporation like 100 years ago or something along those lines
That’s a fact tho, anyone can look up the case Susan b Anthony, vs United States. And read you are born into a corporation. Black people become subjects or property to congress this is clear defined case law bro. So yes you are born in a corporation
Another question: if half the world is fooling the other half, how are they able to stay so organized and communicate their conspiracy so seamlessly without being discovered?
And that (according the them) has been going on way longer than world wide communications (let alone the internet) has existed 🙄
They send motivational speakers around the world, establish schools to train new recruits (usually starting by the age of five), distribute books containing the material people are expected to believe, hold regular indoctrination sessions, and limit contact between their members and outsiders.
Oh, were you talking about the flat Earth conspiracy theory?
Post-it Notes! Lots and lots of 'em!😁✌️🌎
"It's hard to control people who have a connection to god." Sure Dave.
Historically, religion has been one of the easiest and most effective ways to control people's thoughts and behavior.
Amen to that one... lol
He literally just insulted everyone in Japan and everyone of Japanese decent.
Yes, I know that modern nuclear bombs are more advanced than the bombs used in WW2, but they're close enough.
Is he denying that the US dropped nuclear bombs in WW2?
SMH
It always comes back to "but muh god says...." Every flerf I have seen who tries to explain "why" comes to the same answer: "to keep people from God." What I have yet to hear one "explain" is how a globe Earth does that. Or are they saying that their "almighty" god is incapable of creating something more complex than their kindergarten view?
Best counter for them, the verses they use to claim a flat earth with a dome are not direct translations. Translating by the meanings of those verses, the Bible says the earth is a spinning ball in a vacuum.
@@giin97I'd like to see an expansion on that. What verses and what would a direct translation be?
A wise man once said- I am terrified when I acknowledge the depths of stupidity one can possess.
David: It's about control.
**one minute later**
David: It's about money.
**another minute later**
David: It's about G-d.
**yet another minute later**
David: It's about population control.
**and in the final minute**
David: It's about stifling imagination and creativity.
Jesus Christ, David. PICK A LANE!!!
David: It’s about hiding additional lands and resources. 🙄
It's about paranoia.
It's about making a living selling BS to gullible/lost people when doing legitimate work that contributes to society failed to make you rich and important...
What? Too serious, and on point? Sorry. Carry on.
He want to have them all because everything has to be about him.
@@blindleader42 🤣🤣🤣 🔥🔥🔥
It's funny how they talk about a globe earth "lie" in a unimaginably huge universe is solely to limit humans, when their own flat earth belief is totally and utterly limiting. A flat earth, inside a dome, with no space outside it, just the flat earth and nothing else, no other planets, stars, galaxies. Totally bizarre.
This Dave guy talks about breaking free, but he voluntarily lives in a Matrix of his own design.
Bro took the blue pill but acts red pilled
Someone tell Dave that the US spends nearly a trillion dollars a year on defense. That's more than a third of the global total. NASA aint much
2 years after Prof. Dave and still not smarter...
If there was trillions of people living in the "OLD WORLD" every time we dig a hole we would find human remains.