Flat Earther Gives Bizarre Reasons for What Causes Night
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Kyle Adams loves to give us flat Earth "lessons," and today, it's about what causes night on a flat Earth. It's total nonsense, by the way, you can't miss this one.
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Kyle's science should include why he can successfully shine a light through one ear and see a light shining through the other
Ah but does the empty cranial cavity cause upward or downward refraction?
After all, flerfs have a well-documented history of shining a light through a pair of holes and getting "interesting" results!
@@JohnVJay If his earhole is directly above you there is no refraction. Weren't you listening?🤣🤣
Interesting
The light bends down but the objects appear as if the light is bending up because of a confusion over the words "up" and "down".
I love how the explanation of how night occurs is reliant on three factors that are variable, and yet somehow night can be predicted accurately anywhere, anytime.
LMAO! Good point😅
Yeah, and the way night's arrival perfectly correlates with that massive fireball in the sky dropping below the horizon doesn't have anything to do with it is interesting as well.
@@fepeerreview3150 ..nothing at all.. it must just be a coincidence..
..i would love see this guy explain the solar wind and Northen/Southern lights, that must be a fun mental excersise...
Indeed. Based on his claim, the patch of daylight on a flat earth would still be circular/oval shape. The actual pattern doesn’t make any sense on a disk
You make an excellent point! You should share that with 'Professor' Kyle. I'd love to do it myself but was blocked by him quite some time ago.
I had a flerfer try to tell me that the moon is only 50 miles away. Odd that, when it appears to be on the horizon east of me, when I call my buddy 60 miles east of me, it still appears east of him. I wonder how that happens?
Obviously it's a massive government conspiracy and your friend is in on it duh
It's because of Refraction and buoyancy
@@ugleduklin3430 so you are saying that refraction and buoyancy makes an object sitting on the horizon 50 miles to my east look like it is just above the horizon east of my friend who is 60 miles east of me?
It's weird that people who think up and down are intrinsic universal laws had to put two floating balls into their model to make it work. You'd think at that point they'd see the pointlessness of the venture.
@@ugleduklin3430😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 so you seriously believe that, or are you just a troll after attention? 🤦♂️🙄🤣🤣🤣
It's hilarious how he starts by arguing that "the atmosphere is opaque upwards, so we can't see the sun" and then a few minutes later "we can see the stars, since the atmosphere _isn't_ opaque in the upwards direction". How does he not see the contradiction?! 🤣
Clearly.. it's because the sun isn't in the sky and the opacity "dissapears"... Duh.. lol
Perhaps he's an idiot.
@Takyodor2 Not really, at 2:31 it was the opacity of the *_WATER_* not of the atmosphere... -.-
@irrelevant_noob Whatever, replace "atmosphere" with "water vapor in the atmosphere" in my original comment, and the silliness remains 😂
I was thinking exactly the same. The Flat Earther talks how light somehow gets filtered out due to his three scientifically vague properties when traveling along the surface of the earth. But how this said (BS) process is going to impact on the sun light coming from the sky, the same direction where the stars shine.
My mom (80) does not believe me, when I tell her, that there are people out there, believing the earth is flat.
I can't blame her...
@philiphaseldine1135 A few years ago I got on my mind to ask every FE believer I met in the Internet to name a conspiracy theory that was so outlandish, so utterly stupid that they didn't buy it.
I received only one reply and exactly zero answers.
@@federicogiana What about the one that our universe is the 4D surface stretched onto an 11D object? Oh wait that one might be real. Nevermind.
Nah. Your mom is kidding you. She grew up in the era of the National Enquirer and similar garbage being sold at checkout stands. Alien abductions, crop circles, Martian UFOs - flat earth is child’s play compared to that dreck.
Same here, i tried to explain my parents but...They don't believe someone can be stupid enough to be a flat earther...
I did not insist, their life is better without knowing all the bs you find out there...
I'm having a hard time accepting the existence of actual flat-earthers myself. I prefer to think there are people who discovered that they can get public attention by making stupid claims. Some people will do the wildest things if it gets them a little attention.
The scariest thing is, these people sometimes care for children AND are able to vote 🤦♂️😅😅
Even worse, Kyle has set up an 'educational' facility that teaches FE amongst other pseudo-scientific beliefs.
How do you think Joe Biden won
Their ability to vote is what scares me the most.....
@@diehardeaglesfansince1994 By the process of democracy and winning the most senate seats. Or are you getting confused with 2016 perhaps?
Every last one voted trump.
If the earth was flat, cats would've pushed everything off by now.
😂😂
So true.
If the Earth was flat. Things that would work on Flat Earth......
1. Perspective.
2. Eeeeeeeehm.......... can I get to you later?
You stole this quote lolll
@@ToxicJelly9 So did the guy he heard it from, and the guy HE heard it from, and the guy HE heard it from, and the guy HE heard it from, and the guy HE heard it from, and the guy HE heard it from, and so on. This joke is about as old as a joke can get.
How do people put so much effort into being so wrong.
To prop up an overwhelming but unjustified sense of their own self-importance, and/or to make money from the gullible.
He is a mormon.
That is really the fascinating part of this whole thing.
Well, the more stupid they offer, the more flerfs are attracted to their channel, thus more views, which leads to more money, and less reason to move out of mommy’s basement.
Because they want to feel special, so no talking about reality or things that can be verified. Let's make up things and pretend that's reality.
I wonder how many flerfers ever wonder why the 'hotels' they stay in have straps on the beds...
They don't notice the straps because they are too busy looking at the fancy padded walls.
As yes, those straps are needed near the earth's edge to stop folk falling off.
And they can never find a jacket without very long sleeves.
mom thinks earth is flat. What one super evidence can I tell her using only 1 or 2 sentences?
@@awwitsHurts "mom thinks earth is flat." Why bother? Unless she's planning to become an airline pilot or similar, such a belief does no harm. Just say "Yes, Mom."
My other half likes to fold the bed covers back in the morning to air the bed. OK, I don't have a problem with that. But then in the early evening, she pulls them back up "so that the bed is nice and warm at bedtime". Previously, I would have pointed out that without a heat source, it makes no difference whether the covers are up or down, but nowadays, I just say "OK". It saves a lot of arguments.
I'm completely convinced now that I am in fact living at the bottom of the ocean every night.
Me too, in a Pineapple
Y’all were a TV star or a sea sponge that wears pants and walks and talks to your buddies. Are the hamburgers any good though. ?
@@StraightSh00t3r I don't know, I've never tried sea horse meat.
Oh, Mr. Sandman.
I really thought we were headed for a "waters above as the waters below" moment.
But then, that wouldn't be "science".
you forgot the flatosphere, a zone so depleted in braincells that it's almost classed as a vacuum.
Yet, in a stunning way, so very dense.
Flat earth have an irrefutable argument for the flatitude of the earth, they move their goal posts so fast that on a globe it would reach escape velocity and fly off into space.
@@feedingravens It would break through the firmament, causing a massive flood killing everybody on the dirt pizza
Because all the liberal brain cells needed to go away somewhere.
Good one lol
"The Flat Earth Institute of Science" ...
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤔😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
..... Number of attendancees, undefinable..
I'll make a correction on their spelling mistake: The Flat Earth Institute of Nonsense
It's three flat earthers in a garden shed.
Classes be like…”How to film RUclips videos that accidentally disprove your hypothesis without admitting your conclusions 201.”
It has become a global phenomenon.
It's amazing how articulate he is and how much research he did to understand ONE thing .. but then used that one thing .. to horrendously misunderstand everything else ..
That's because he's got this horribly misshapen shoe of a worldview that he's somehow got to fit the foot of reality into. Using an axe if he has to.
@@marcusrosenlund8912 He’s Cinderella’s stepsisters? “Ruckedigu, blut ist im schuh!”
He's a grifter, he knows exactly what he's doing
Its because people like him think that everything is a lie and everyone is trying to trick them. You can find "evidence" that something is fake even of it's not. It won't be supported by science, facts or logic of course but you can always find something that looks convincing enough for people with 2 braincells to believe.
@@mjjoe76"Blut ist im Schuh" Nouns are upper case in German
scnr
"no, that would be because Europe is hidden behind a massive planet"
made me burst out in laughter more than it should have 🤣
Me too, you're not the only one.
As did I have a chuckle too.
It was an absolute banger from Dan for sure, I nearly choked on an M 'n M because of it. 🤣💯
Yes me too.
I feel like I need to add something that's missing in Dan's rebuttal, so here goes:
So, the interesting (and for some probably confusing) thing about seeing through air, is that during the day, very distant objects will indeed appear to have a kind of blue haze in front of them. However, this haze is not present at night, and at night, you can actually see farther. That's because the 'haze' you're seeing is actually sunlight being scattered off air molecules through a process known as Rayleigh scattering. Rayleigh scattering is much stronger for shorter wavelengths, meaning it most strongly affects blue light, hence why the sky is blue during the day. So brightly blue in fact, that we can't see the stars. So like Dan says, the air is not opague at all, it's actually scattered sunlight that's blocking your view of both distant mountains and the stars during the day.
Edit: It's also why you can see stars much better in the countryside than in a big city! While smog can be a factor, even when you have clean air, there will still be 'light pollution'. If the light from the city all just went straight up to space, it wouldn't get in the way of you seeing the stars, but since it scatters from air molecules back to your eye, it actually does get in the way, just like sunlight!
Ive never actually thought of light pollution in this way before, thanks for the comment
It never fails to amaze me how they come up with incredibly contrived and complicated explanations for observations that are so simply explained by....a spherical rotating Earth.
Because conspiracy theorists with a nonsensical worldview all know, on some unacknowledged level, that Occam's Razor is aimed right at their throats.
But... _they!_
@@NeutralDrowVery good. 👍
Except he never really gave an explanation, did he? He said lots of words, and showed an odd diagram with a black part in the middle.
What our flat earth scientist colleagues seem to be completely unaware of is that although scientific knowledge and theories are often described in words and diagrams on popular science programs, that's generally because most people have limited ability to understand things which are expressed mathematically, and real science is usually expressed very precisely in terms of maths. One doesn't see a whole lot of maths in their output, and it's clear they struggle to understand the relationship between the angles of a triangle and the relative lengths of its sides. I'd really like to see these guys try to write down their ideas mathematically.
@@SloverOfTeuthWell, it's impossible to write down their ideas mathematically, because "the math they taught us in school" is skewed to support a globe earth model, because that's what "they"/the elites/the lizard people/the tooth fairy/etc. want us to believe. Therefore you cannot use "their math" and need to rely on out of scale MS paint drawings.
Giving literally every single person the ability to broadcast their thoughts over the internet was a mistake, some people's thoughts need to stay internal
It was once said that a million monkeys typing on a million typewriters would eventually produce the works of William Shakespeare. The internet, it seems, has proven this false. 😂
This is why you respect people but NOT beliefs. If someone tells you they think the earth is flat you should NOT respect that belief, you should think it's batshit crazy - but you should respect the person themselves.
@@madmartigan4141Ten monkeys, thirty minutes.😂😂😂
@@ross-carlson I believe the earth is a sphere.
Oh, you're not going to respect my belief?
Well, !@#$ you too, ignorant fool.
..the above is just a joke of course, but it highlights the problem with your narrow-minded thinking.
Some beliefs are justified
It is equally as asenine to automatically reject everything that doesn't conform to your preconceived notions as it is to automatically accept everything. Both are equally as intellectually lazy.
I would advise that you respect the beliefs that you judge to be worth respecting.
@@ross-carlson I disagree. I do not need to respect any specific person. If you mean I should respect their rights, absolutely, but if you mean I must respect an uneducated idiot shooting off his mouth, no. I spent years earning my graduate degree and I try hard not to make idiotic statements. I stick to subjects I know. They should do the same, and if they don't, I need not respect them.
The level aboveThe Twilight Zone is NOT "The Sunlight Zone" - as anyone who has been around a while can tell you; It's "The Outer Limits"- naturally 😉 😂
Booo ,lol :)
Lol
Excuse me, doctor, who told you that? //commas are important. :)
And the zone below it is called"The Night Gallery"
He may think the atmosphere is dense, but he's got the atmosphere beat hands down. 😂😂😂
He is correct in saying the atmosphere is dense, but NOT as dense as he is.
As sharp as a bowling ball.
"There's H2O in the atmosphere, therefore the atmosphere is like the ocean" is a batshit take that I didn't expect to hear
I'm going for a dip right now
I work with a guy that stinks. Maybe he thinks he’s bathing daily by just existing in air?
Give the guy some credit, water vapour in the air does have an effect on infared light.
The growth in numbers of flat earthers is a condemnation of our education system.
We can see a hundred miles over flat land or water, so how many flat 100 mile stretches does it take to make a ball?
@@wardrobegirl67 conveniently, I live near the ocean. If the world were flat, I'd be able to see Ireland with a good telescope. I can't. However, I can (and have) watched ships disappear over the horizon, as they dip below the curvature of the planet.
It also is consistent with the outcomes of many elections...
@@alexkilgour1328you assume it's curvature. Maybe water appears curved idk. You should see the same effect across only land.
mom thinks earth is flat. What one super evidence can I tell her using only 1 or 2 sentences?
With his wittering on about the underwater zones, I thought he was going to night was caused by the 'waters above the dome'. Kyle surprised me by not going there.
Dont give him ideas.
I thought the same thing 😊
It takes a special kind of flat earther to suprise you with even more stupidity, at least the picture of a giant ocean that rises and falls thousands of meters a day would have been an epic one. They could even bring bouancy into the mix as well - they seem to like that - and say the flat-earth is just a ship, with a dome over it bobbing up and down in a giant ocean. There could also be a bible / noahs ark reference in there!
Maybe the day night cycle is caused by the domed earth rising and settling through those zones, except they are in reverse.
@@pldcanfly Unfortunately the only way we can STILL explain day/night cycles is if our underwater earth-dome in an ocean which itself is on a round spinning ball.... so we are still working on our model! /s
he's done a very good job of explaining how fog obscures your vision. but if it applied to day and night, the sun would just kind of brighten and dim instead of appearing over one horizon and disappearing over the other.
I also have an issue with SciMan saying the 1st part of his logic is terrible. The sheet protectors are a great analogy that fall apart not because they don't make sense... but because the flat earther has once again forgotten to do MATH and account for SCALE. There is a "depth" of atmosphere (including particulates and other particles) that would lead to light not penetrating it... but the sheer VOLUME of atmosphere required would cause a whole lot of other side effects. Runnaway Greenhouse effect: where does all the heat go if the atmosphere is so thick light can't radiate through it? Massive crushing pressure: not only would make life as we know it impossible, but could even cause some gases to turn liquid. Toxicity: some "harmless" gasses become toxic at certain densities or concentrations. I could probably find more issues if I went on, and this doesn't even BEGIN to touch on the issues of how this would work on a FLAT earth with a Sun some set (but close?) distance above the disk.
I would much rather have had the 1st part of this episode talk about the absurdity of the SCALE of an atmosphere capable of dispersing ALL sunlight when that light passes through it at an angle (such as on the hypothetical flat earth).
Stupidity is the real pandemic.
My mom smoked, drank, took aspirin, drugs, jumped on trampolines, and frequently went skinny-dipping in the local heavy water reactor while pregnant with me. I had a brain-ectomy and a lobotomy. I'm an uneducated idiot with an IQ in the low single digits. So this guy makes perfect sense to me!
NOT ASPIRIN!
@@dougfraser77 Bayer
Stifler's Mom
Stacy's mom cuz she got it going on @@DuXQaK
My long lost twin?
I love how up to this day, no Flatearther can explain why the Sun sets and goes under the horizon every evening.
At a predictable time
And rises every morning. At different times at different longitudes. At different times of year. In perfectly predictable patterns consistent with the globe model of the Earth.
@@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286 Localized entirely within your kitchen?
I'm not remembering all their nonsense, but I'm pretty sure I have seen videos (probably even by SciManDan) where we are shown some of the flatearthers' ridiculous explanations to these phenomena... so they do explain this, only that their explanations make no sense like all the others.
Why do you talk like a retard? Have you ever been inside a tunnel to see that at the other end the lights from the ceiling seems to touch the ground.
That is called ANGLE OF PERSPECTIVE. But you people are just too retarded to understand that.
I feel physical pain listening to flat earthers.
Liquid water is 2000 x more dense than gas but still less dense than Kyle 🤣🤣🤣
Dunno, I reckon his brain was gaseous and escaped when he first snarted, that is sneeze and fart at the same time, and some sentient but still not very dense moss has replaced it and is what is speaking to us now as a form of comedic expression, it should be studied.
So Kyle... sinks? Well, he's not a witch after all!
Kyle's explanation of the occurrence of night, left out one very important contributing factor. Convenient magic. That makes his argument much stronger.
Don´t forget "electromagnetic", one of their classic standards!! Rgr
His "truth" come right from his rectum..... which is not the right place for "day or night" science.
Something something buoyancy and magnets
Still makes more sense than Scientology
😂😂😂
Flat earthers only exist in order to give Scientologists someone to make fun of.
I'd give it about a 50/50 weighting, they both use very similar levels of "science" to explain why things they say are true.
@SuperChicken666 ...and Mormonism.
mom thinks earth is flat. What one super evidence can I tell her using only 1 or 2 sentences?
If night is partly caused by atmospheric opacity, sunlight would dim gradually and noticeably throughout the day and twilight would take many hours. 'It gets dark quickly' would not be a phrase.
Are you referring to the globe or flat Earth?
Exactly! I was in Jeddah Saudi Arabia and the sun sets there within minutes! It was shocking to me when I first saw it as I live on the northeast of Scotland and the sunsets here are quite long. I’ve been to Iona, the island off Mull western Scotland and the sunsets there a breathtakingly beautiful and take hours. But in Jeddah it happened at 7.30pm (when I was there) and it took 2/3 minutes! Like I say it was really surprising!
So explain that please flerfs! Sunset time variation from Jeddah to Iona 😂
They can’t!!!
@@MelanaC They are not here to explain to you but to scam. If you are too intelligent, they would go cricket ie. not interested in further scamming.
@@MelanaCYes, have done mapping on Mull, and worked in oil and gas from Shetland to Singapore.
Can't miss the difference.
🏴🖖
@@wilsont1010 I'm debunking the subject's, Kyle Adam's, argument. Take a punt at what shape I think the Earth is.
If this guy lived Before 1500 AD he would have been one of brilliant thinkers.
A quote from _The Green Mile_ comes ro mind:
"I think this boy's cheese slid off his cracker!"
there are plenty...
"The elevator doesn't go all the way to the top level"
"He has kangaroos in the top paddock"
"The self-starter failed at birth"
Always gotta love flat earthers debunking each other. This guy mentions the fact that the atmosphere is a gradient, so there's less atmosphere the higher you go, which explains how there can be "gas next to a vacuum without a container", an argument flat earthers love to say it's impossible
They can only explain one thing at a time
Isn't it a far more simple solution to consider the earth to be a globe? Dan, you are a patient man. Dan, Dan the Patient Man.
The weird obsession with what things are named is a definite theme in the woo community...
I like that he shows us an image of the "three zones" in the ocean... but there are five zones since you have Abyss and Trench zones below the Midnight Zone... he is also trying to suggest these are the scientific names, not just the common names to help the average person (grade schooler) remember the different zones. The real names are Epipelagic, Mesopelagic, Bathypelagic, Abyssopelagic, and Hadalpelagic Zones.
What about crash zone, bulb zone, blood kelp zone and inactive lava zone?
Thank you. Nice info.
@CartoonHero1986 A while back, on another channel, I had a hard time trying to explain that a) Anglo-Saxon was not a single ethnic group, but referred to a range of tribal groups and claiming there was no single "Anglo-Saxon race was the same as denying the existence of another poster's ancestors - and b) that the use of "Anglo-Saxon" by the suppliers of an ancestry DNA test was simply popular colloquial usage and not scientific terminology.
@@charleshayes2528 lol as someone of German Saxon heritage I really love that you took the time to comment this. And yeah I've had similiar encounters (mostly Neo-Nazis) trying to claim their superiority as the "favored" people of the great Charlie Chaplin impersonator himself. To be like first: the favoured genetics he talked about where the Nordics, Sweds, and Finish people specifically. Second when he said "for Saxons" he was talking about my ancestors in Germany, not yours in the UK. He'd call you a mongler like any other person unless you were very aryan looking despite having a different Ethnic background.
I could be wrong in this but as I've understood Anglo-Saxons just traced their lineage back to main land Europe through the "German Princes" and Normandy (basically William the Bastard). And before the 15th century there were lots of groups that used a hyphenated ethnic term ending in Saxon in a lot of Western Europe just to clarify they were not descended of Romans, Vikings, Rus, Slavs, or other groups that also lived in those regions. Kind of like giving your entire tribe the last name Smith to announce you're related to the Smith family that are "kind of a big deal back home" in hopes that the other tribes either fear or respect you and coexist
@@Pelipoikki The only lava zone you should worry about is; THE FLOOR! Quick the floor is lava! Get off the floor!
He had me at "Twilight Zone." The irony and unintentional comedy scales are on tilt.
I literally can feel a life-ending aneurysm begin to form in my brain while listening to this guy...
That screaming sound is braincells dying
same... luckily Neal was put on screen and the burst of intellect saved my life
Sadly, You actually become slightly dumber after listening to Flat Earthers
Exactly this. I'm near catatonic right now.
Be careful what you say - believe it or not but words have power. Maybe explain it in another way like " that man is boring the silliness out of me " because losing silliness or stupidity is much better than " a life-ending aneurysm " . No one wants that do they but I understand what you are trying to say as do most of us.
So it could be nighttime on the ground, but if I am on an airplane overhead it's daytime. Sheet protector effect. Good lord, these people.....
That's a very good question ! It seems that it doesn't matter how intelligent an argument you make with all the facts in the world, these people (who's minds can not comprehend such things) will probably never change their minds irrespective of what anyone says.
I get you are trying to dunk on flat earthers but the situation you described actually does happen and is often used as a debunk of flat Earth conspiracy. Places at a higher elevation above sea level experience sunset later than things at lower elevations. For example, the tallest building in the world, the Burj Khalifa in the United Arab Emirates, is 828 meters tall and the top of the building experiences sunset about 3 and a half minutes later than the bottom does. The building is actually divided into multiple zones for people practicing the Islamic month of Ramadan, where you go on a food fast from dawn until sunset. This sunset time difference would be even more pronounced on a plane. Now of course this happens because of the curvature of the Earth and not light refraction but it still happens.
@Evan_Schaefering yeah it happens close to sunset and sunrise.... what about the middle of the night? You knew exactly what they were talking about but just had to put in the sunset bs...
@@kennyatherton277 I mean their point was just bad. It can in fact be nighttime on the ground and daytime for a plane flying overhead. If we are trying to debunk conspiracies we should probably not be saying stuff that is factually untrue, especially if we are going to act exasperated at their stupidity like they did.
What a nice way to describe Terry Pratchett's Discworld.
Sir Pterry's Discworld made WAY more sense than anything the flerfers can throw at you. AND it has magic!
If only Terry had called his world, round world and not disc world. We wouldn’t be in this mess 😃
Hold up......did a flat earther just admit to an atmospheric gradient?
Do they now accept gravity? Did they finally drop that whole "pressure without a container" nonsense?
i guess you cant have "pressure [differential] without a container" unless the explanation for which is some nonsense that some flat earther came up with on the spot. I've heard some crap about electromagnetism, but at that point they've already thrown away their initial argument about a container. At least its a step closer to the much needed realization that forces of any sort are able to push molecules around, and under the right circumstances, pack them closely together.
It almost sounds as if you're suggesting that some flat-earthers might stop moving the goalposts and be logically consistent...?
Sounds great ... Except then they'd stop being flat-earthers 🤷
-Knock knock
Kyle: "who's there?"
-"Math"
Kyle: "i don't need none of that. Go away."
Knock, knock.
Kyle: "who's there?"
- "Sense."
Kyle running away, screaming.
😮😂😂😂
That can't be " The Twilight Zone" because there is no Rod Serling there.
Submitted for your approval…………….
I have to admit that I suffer from depression and I’m being completely honest here listening to these idiots help me get through the day as I get such a good laugh. Well presented Dan and thank you 😂
hopefully it helps to realise there are people who really need help
if I am feeling down I remember the song ....."Dont worry, be happy", easier said than done sometimes but it usually helps
It has the opposite effect on me. The idea that people take these knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing ideas with even a sliver of seriousness just fills me with despair for humanity.
The opacity of the sheet sleeves is not due to the absorption by the plastic of the sheets, it's due to the increasing number of air-plastic interfaces. Each interface reflects a small percentage of the light, so when you have a dozen sleeves, that's 24 sheets or 48 air-plastic interfaces, each reflecting about 4% of the light hitting them. That's why the stack looks silvery.
Goldarnit, yer booklerning got me all discombobulated.😂😂
Don't you go around bringing facts to a word salad fight...
Videos like this are brilliant. Not only am I entertained by the dumb shit people say, I also learn stuff.
I mean I've never given much thought to plastic sleeves, but from now on I'll see them in a different light.
@@gdclemo Salad, MMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
@@markboz3366"...see them in a different light." Pun intended??? LOL
The more I look at flat earthers and their social group sites, etc., the more I'm convinced they are trolling and get their jollies from people's reactions. I just laugh, because I know they are playing a running joke, pretending to be more ignorant than is humanly possible.
I also find people taking them seriously to be accidentally hilarious. Thank you!
@tomgardner5006, I honestly have started to think the same. It can be the only reason they are sooo adamant about it. They must have some good adult "waterproof" underwear, coz I'd be wetting myself with laughing inside at the reactions they are getting if that is really the case
At least, I hope that is the case... and if so, bloody well done
@@absoz well said!
Unfortunately, I have personally met more than one person who is seriously convinced that the earth is flat. They also believe several other conspiracies and ideas that are shown to be completely false by facts, data, observation, and just using your brain. They believe the earth being a globe (almost spherical) is just part of a larger conspiracy.
How does this guy manage to get the food from his plate to his face without giving himself a concussion?
And, speaking *of* concussions - thank you, Dan, for making these videos, considering the exigent danger to yourself.
I'm thinking there's a lot of tube or squeeze bottle based foods in his diet.
Someone put a cork on his fork. ( _Dirty Rotten Scoundrels_ reference)
His mother does it
I think he's getting the food from _other people's_ plates into his mouth, that's the point of grifting.
We used to make people like him wear hockey helmets back in the day.
When he talked about the midnight zone I thought he was going to say the Sun is no longer at the bottom of the ocean and is now up in the sky. To be fair, that would've made more sense than what he actually said!
Personally, I wouldn't bother engaging with any flat Earther until they can present a model that will accurately predict the the next 5 solar and lunar eclipses.
I've "discussed" the issue of why it's dark at night with a couple of different FEers, and they always end up at "we don't necessarily need a consistent theory ourselves, we just need to show how the globe theory doesn't make sense!". So sad.
So the only reason for Flat Earthers to "exist" is; the Globe Earth theory does not make sense? Well, that should be enough "prove" for the Earth to be a globe, because Flat Earthers do make no sense... 😮😂😂😂😂
i don't get this at all, because they can't show the globe theory doesn't make sense. it does make sense. for flat-earth to have any breathing room, it also has to make sense. so until they come up with something that also makes sense, the globe-theory (i hate calling it that... lol) wins.
But... the 'globe' theory is the only one that makes sense and can easily be proven correct.
Which again just shows a fundamental miunderstanding of how scientific theories work. For a new theory / model to take precedence, it's not sufficient to show defects in the existing accepted model, an alternative that can explain AT LEAST all the same observations needs to be proposed.
After all, all models are wrong, but some are useful.
I propose Cube Earth! It explains why we cannot see Europe from the US eastern coast and explains night as well. Cube Earthers Unite!
Most of the light scattering in bodies of water is due to suspended solids and trapped gasses, rather than the water itself. A simple demonstration of this fact is that you can see the bottom of still pools tens of metres deep, much further down than you could in the open ocean. And in many caves and cenotes you can see objects a hundred metres or more away.
Or even a nice, deep well.
Look at the bottom of a pure clean pool and you can clearly see that opacity has fuck all to do with the water itself. It is true that given enough volume the opacity becomes more relevant, but regardless it requires a hell of a lot more matter than is present in the atmosphere. The atmosphere sits ABOVE the oceans and lakes and rivers for a reason; far LOWER density than water. Water sits above the land for the same reason. Oddly enough, though, ice floats in water.
First thing that came to mind whilst listening to Kyle, is one of my favorite Twain quotes that I also consider a life lesson that I've lived by and....it's served me very well!
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” -Mark Twain
Gotta hand it to him. These folks are creative.
Making the most complex and convoluted explanations for fairly simple straight forward questions.
Rube Goldberg would be proud.
😂😂😂 the Rube Goldberg reference had me rofling.
It's night here now, and it's amazing that I can see the moon and the stars perfectly, but that blazing, blinding ball of plasma is completely occluded.
Flat earthers are great when you need a good laugh and great to make you respect how smart dead garden snails really are.
This guy has GOT to be putting on! He has the ability to actually use the scientific principle to run tests - and is pranking people by finding the wrong answers. Reminds me of the Abbot and Costello skit of "7x13=28".
Best skin in the hstory of mathematics!
Sensationalism. 😂
But 7x13 does obviously equal 28
7x1 = 7
7x3 = 21
21 + 7 = 28
Duh.
Love that skit! Also I agree that flat earthers are just pranking.
Does he think it gets dark at night because his eyes are shut while sleeping ?
It's a shame they can't use the same sheet protection analogy when it comes to the "clouds being behind the sun".
The only time I accept the term "Atmospheric Opacity" is to determine how foggy it is at any given time.
“But being less dense it requires more room” takes a dropout to spot one. Keep it up Dan.
“The truth is hidden in plain sight” invariably can be correctly translated as reading into things that aren’t there.
Same principle as "anything can be a UFO if you're bad enough at identifying things."
"Flat Earth" and "Science" are mutually exclusive terms. "FLERFER" Love it! Never heard that term before today.
So the sun sliding below the horizon (and can't be brought back no matter how good the zoom on your Nikon is) is just a coincidence for this guy?
Refraction or electromagnetic.... Your choice... Rgr
Buoyancy!
And in the same vein- what do flat earthers think is on the underside of the planet, and how do they know?
@@WilliamSpoehr id troll them by asking so how thick is flat earth and whats on the other side and why they not dig to it and take pictures of the other side if its flat then what is under usa and what is under europe or asia we wanna know maybe we should make them start digging 😂😂
The one I find most hilarious is their claim that light has a limited distance it can travel. Like, the suns light in their mind can only travel like 1000 miles or something like that.
And the distance light can travel depends upon the observer's height. 😂
Yeah, debating with my brother can be very aggravating. This is essentially every argument about flat earth with him.
I wanna see someone who said they were abducted by aliens debate a flat earther
With Elvis as the moderator!
You could also invite someone who believes in the hollow earth theory.
I'll grab my popcorn.
Debate about chemtrails?
@@brayhill whatever comes up. Hopefully what aliens are and where they came from
LOL! Now, THAT would be a show.
Next This guy will propose an expedition to explore the sun… at night when its dark.
To be fair it's unlikely, he'd have to go outside
That's the best idea I think I've ever heard... how do we organise this for them? Can we send them all at once? If Elon really wants a better future for us he should help make this happen.
...with AOC.
Gold medal for mental gymnastics
The Midnight Zone sounds like a great name for a club.
In the 1950s it would have been the kind of place that Miles Davis would play.
I don’t know how SciManDan does it, he must have the patience of a saint because I find Flatties way too frustrating to discuss with. The reply “…no, that’s because Europe is hidden behind a big planet.” had me laughing 😂 but the humour will be lost on Flatties.
@philiphaseldine1135 that’s the point, I don’t.
The funniest part is that flat earthers successfully lure pseudo intellectuals and PHd's into arguing whether the earth is flat.
YES! That is what I say. It's a giant troll for laughs. I wish I started this conspiracy myself. Think of the LULZZZ
WHAAAAAAAT?!?! I thought night was caused by a giant wolf eating the sun at the end of every day... BOY WAS I WRONG!
And then vomits it up every morning!
I though it was an octypu .. occt … octap … a giant squid.😮
Just persist!! One day you´ll find a bunch of flerfers backing you up! Promise.. Rgr
That's just superstitious nonsense -the truth is that every night NASA takes down the sun for maintenance so it will work without problems when it's time for the morning.
🤣
Kyle got one thing kinda right, he said atmosphere. Did he not know that sphere was part of the word? Also has he never seen fog?
Even more importantly, has he never seen fog in both day and night? You know which time it is immediately.
Yea it makes me chuckle when flerfers say atmosphere.
I love how they accept some science as a way to prove their points, but completely disregard the parts that don’t support their delusions.
As with all fanatics who are deplorably wrong, cherry picking data and ignorance of their audience are paramount in keeping their insanity on the wobbly tracks they hobble on. P.T. Barnum had it right when he said: "there's a sucker born every minute." It was something that was easily laughed off at one point, however, with the rise in numbers within the ranks of FLERFism, it's getting, a little concerning.
There's something really wrong at about 7:05 the guy says the light is bending down and it's making things appear lower than they actually are. When light bends down the object appears higher than it actually is because when we look at the source of a light ray coming to our eye our brain assumes the light isn't bending at all and that makes us trace back as though the ray came at us in a straight line. For something to appear lower the light would have to bend upward not downward. Our atmospheric gradient causes light to bend downward, it's only in extreme situations like those that cause mirages where light bends upward in our atmosphere. That completely rules out the possibility of the stars near the horizon being high up and the bending of light just making them look low. Atmospheric refraction is more likely to make a star that is below the horizon visible just above it, meaning that light would definitely have to be traveling through more atmosphere than light from anywhere on the surface of a flat earth.
His parents know but don't tell him or he will get upset.
Like many other flat earthers, Kyle claims, or believes, a line of sight can be bent. We can see round corners.
He makes total sense. Eureka! As you keep adding "sheets" to the atmospheric interference, eventually you get sunset. Like the straw that broke the camel's back, it reaches the point where the sun seems to dip below the horizon. Wow Kyle, that right there is incredible mental gymnastics. You should be in the Olympics!
This is a really bad episode of the Twilight Zone tv show, an episode with the lead character's brain removed.
Thanks once again, Dan.
Always a joy to see Flaterthers use science to proof their point, but when it does disprove it... Well. Then it's not real science now, is it? 😂 Happy to see your channel grow and carry on what you doing Dan! Have a great week.
Where does the hexagonal shaped flat earther block go?
That's right! It goes in the square hole.
How does a Flat Earther drives a screw into a wood frame... Nope, not with a screwdriver.. he nails it.
I am relatively new to the flerfer phenomenon and cannot comprehend how people actually believe this. Thank you SciManDan for taking these individuals on not sure how you are still sane after people like Kyle.
"Clearly, the Sun goes into power saving mode"
I love this content you make and thank you so much for educating us on what Flat Earthers are talking about without having to give them contribution ❤️
4:27 "The atmosphere is 0% opaque for the visible light spectrum." Well, it absorbs some colors more than others. But in all practicality what you said is essentially true.
I just love how when a flat Earther is shown that one of their ideas is wholly unsupported by evidence, they immediately invent another evidence-free idea to prop up the first. Of course, the fact that the second idea is as unsupportable as the first necessitates a third idea to prop up the second, which is as unsupported by evidence as the first two - and so on. The result is a chain of "logic" so shaky that a house of cards built on a foundation of sand seems hyper-sturdy in comparison.
Well of course. It IS Turtles all the way down you know.
Did he ever get round to explaining how these 3 factors come together to create night, only during a very specific section of a 24 hour cycle? How that section varies in length depending on location and/or time of year?
And importantly, how those 3 factors still exist, without causing night in those areas, for the rest of the 24 hour cycle?
I'm sure they have something, probably painfully complex, and tortuous to poor old Occam.
I suppose the distance of the flerfsun, which is rotating over the equator/tropics daily, is still a significant part of his -theory -hypothesis- -idea- whatever.
Don't ask me for details, this is already making my head hurt...
Get "round"....pun unintended. 😉
@@federicogiana I believe the term you were searching for was "fleabrainedpoorlythoughtoutidioticimaginings"
It's not a word that we really had to use much before flerfers existed
@@MyopicPowerhouse We used to use "ass pulls", but when flerfers came about, we realized it was too weak a term for their fleabrainedpoorlythoughtoutidioticimaginings...
Soooooo... Earth is an old video game where they fogged the distances to hide how small everything really is.
I love that you're giving real-world examples of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in action. A great public service in my opinion. Thanks, Dan!
He lost me right before he even uttered the word Twilight Zone…
5:40 Okay, that was the best phrasing of "It's because it's a globe" I've heard in a while :')
I like how how he says that the atmosphere is less dense at altitude ignoring the FE theory that there is a container so the density and pressure would be constant
They don't think that far ahead, in fact, they often just don't think!
He would actually sound more sane if he just said theres someone standing next to a dimmer swtich to turn the light down.
One of the most amusing to me was the FE who took a tradesman's spirit level on an airliner, a moving object.
That dude makes about as much sense as a football bat.
2000x more dense? Sounds like the average flerf…
I’ve always been a little uneasy of flat earth conventions. With all that density concentrated in one area there are serious implications for the warping of spacetime to an extent never before imagined 😮
@@SamualRobotham-IWasOnlyKiddingall that weight might tip the earth over!
@@SamualRobotham-IWasOnlyKidding dense enough to form their own event horizon…
“Flat earth” and “science” in the same sentence is the oxymoron of the year! 😂
The century, so far.
Oh nah dude..... we've all been studying flat earth(ers) for years, and somehow haven't learnt anything except the fact that arguing with them is a rookie mistake. 😂😂
@@Alex.The.Lionnnnn It’s like this: “you can’t make anything idiot proof, because idiots are so ingenious” 😂
@@skesinis and their confidence! Their steadfast belief in themselves is remarkable!! Imagine being able to have that level of blind belief in your own brilliance.....fuck 10% of it would be nice. 😂
Flat Earth is the real science. The retarded spinning ball model was a globalist conspiracy against the Bible in order to
make Christians look like lunatics. Please wake up.
Once again I'd love to hear other flat earthers opinions on this. Will they ever go "earth is flat but this theory can't possibly be true", or will they just accept it despite conflicting with other flat earth theories.
More or less, some of the "smartest" will try to fit those into existing theories too. Resulting in a shmorgasboard of terms.
In my experience, they will only ever discredit other Flat Earth theories when they are:
1. Repeated by a "globehead," because it's an opportunity for them to make Flat Earth debunkers look like fools for "falling for an obviously fake explanation/theory."
2. Spoken by a Flat Earther that they have deemed as a troll or other wise "not a real Flat Earther." I recall they did something like this with Bob Knodell after the infamous 15 degree-per-hour-drift clip from that one Flat Earth documentary.
The complications involved in the explanation of a flat earth, is more incredible than a simple globe.
Would love to hear him explain the period without sun, and the midnight sun up north, and down south on the globe.
Well, of course their answer to that is that all those videos that prove the 24 hour sun in Antarctica are fake. And anyone who has been there and seen it well, they’re secretly being paid by the government and are lying.
Here's a crazy idea:
sun go away, night time come,
sun come back, night time go
but.....the Sun isn't going anywhere.
I think you will find there is a Calypso from the 1950s-ish that makes the same point.
I would like to see a documentary about a voyage of flat earthers looking for the edge of the Earth. The excuses for not reaching the edge, or the wall of ice, or whatever they believe will be brilliant.