How quiet is this. Im looking for something for my daughter to use at her mothers house. With the cold months coming up hopefully this would be the answer for her.
Hi Matthew, it's pretty quiet. It's probably the softest out of the practice mutes I've used. But it's not nice to play. Very restrictive and makes it hard to adjust when it's taken out. Check out my review of the upmute which I find much better. ruclips.net/video/YXVDOJtxGDo/видео.html
I've watched a few other videos about these silent mutes, but this one really illustrates the difference in volume best. The trombone version is over $200, so I've been a little hesitant, but now I'm more eager to give this a try.
Hi Phil Thanks for the video, I’ve tried both the Silent Brass mutes. Whilst they do, attenuate the sound. there are issues with tuning and back pressure that you mention. I,d be keen to hear your thoughts on other practice mutes, over the years I’ve tried the Dennis Wick and Schzzzzz mutes. The Schzzz actually is not to bad on tuning. Are you gong to include in your next review the Wallace Pro Silent mute and also the Yahama Nano. Great channel, keep them coming. Jim Portsmouth UK
@@PhillONeillTrumpet It will be very helpful. I am thinking about Tom Crown, Bramer sshhmute and Yamacha Silent Brase. I selected it based on information and opinions. Which of them has the best inotation and which has the least back pressure. I think this is very important for beginners. Maybe you can also talk about the feedback pressure. Some manufacturers say that a low back pressure helps develop embouchure. Is it true?
@@sawtom I have just finished my practice mute comparison. for some reason I cant find my SShh mute anymore but there are some good ones here to check out. ruclips.net/video/XPnkDm0fsiM/видео.html
The yamaha back pressure is a lot more noticable than the upmute. Every mute will always have some level of back pressure. There is no way around it. Just makes sence when you stick something in the bell. The stomvi has some of the least back pressure out of the practice mutes I've tried (and there are many). But as I mention in the video, my biggest concern with practice mutes is the fuzzy feeling of the lips I get when I take the mute out. The upmute doesnt have that at all.
@@PhillONeillTrumpet thanks Phill. I've ordered a Yamaha as I like the idea of being able to practice to a backing track on occasion. BTW I'm a Stomvi fan - I have a Classica and I love it :) I bought it after watching one of your demos. 👍
Thanks Jesper. Glad you like the review. Feel free to check out some of my other mute reviews. There’s a cool wooden mute in this video. ruclips.net/video/6d5Zx3n8DwA/видео.html
@@PhillONeillTrumpet Cool, will check it out. Would be nice with some kind of practice mute in the evenings. I have a Denis Wick mute right now but its no joy at all playing.
this fanfare has been much more popular than I expected :). I wrote the fanfare to announce the launch of my album "The Operatic Trumpet" you can listen to it on spotify. open.spotify.com/album/62Zx8HMZA97As7Y48qL4Jt
Ah would have been so helpful to hear the sound un-muted in the room to get a comparison; really considering one of these but even 'reasonably quiet' can disturb housemates
Hi Gggfx, I have a comparison video coming soon where I play several practice mutes and also without the mute. This should give you a more accurate review for you.
Should I buy just the mute without the reverb device, I do not play trumpet professionally I am just in the 6th grade and my brother hates how loud my trumpet is but I need to hear the not muffle of a regular mute cus I wanna Improve trumpet aspects that would be covered up with a regular mute please help
Thats a good question. I wouldn't recommend this mute for daily practice. The resistance is too different to normal playing. Have a look at the UpMute. I find that I can use this mute often and it doesn't destroy my sound when I can play without a mute. Other than that try to stay late at school to practice if the volume annoys your family too much. ruclips.net/video/YXVDOJtxGDo/видео.html
I will not use it exclusively I would just use it if it’s a bit earlier or if there is a lot of family members around and I can still also practice regularly but just not as much as I would want to so I think this might be a viable option
Hi Sipho, In this video i think i was using Stomvi's 1 1/4C. Im currently using a warburton mouthpiece these days. Ive tried soo many different mouthpieces over the years!!!! What ru using?
Hi Hampus, You will need to Silent Brass SB6X model for flugel horn. Its designed specifically for the flugel horn. I’d love to hear how you go with it.
The difference between the first generation and 2nd generation is quite a big one. I hated the first generation. It had soo much back pressure and it didn't ground good either. If you don't want to spen $200 on the gen 2 but you need a practice mute, try the Upmute by Stomvi. Thats a great mute!
@@filipejjc9292 Oh wow. That's really cool. I love how I get to meet people from places I've never been to through RUclips. I do get some tasty coffee grown in Brazil. :)
@@yasminflores4386 lol. a good player can make anything work. I did a gig with James Morrison. we gave him the oldest instrument we could find with air leaks and rusty valves and he still made it sound superb. Tthe Yamaha 2330 is a reliable trumpet. Treat it well and you will get good use from it.
Mine just came today. I'm unhappy because the sound is stuffy in my headphones. especially then tonality when I play middle C. Is it this particular mute? Help!
The headphones that come with it aren’t great. You can improve the sound by using better headphones. I suggest using a reverb too. Using a practice mute is never going to be ideal but there are times you just need to bite the bullet and use one.
The sound is a little bit muffled and stuffy, but ok for practice. The most disturbing issue I have is my low C is sharp relative to my middle C - the low C is about 1/2 step sharp . I don't like that it messes with the intonation...
Hi L Wentz, It is normal for a practice mute to feel more stuffy than playing open. A practice mute will never have the feel of playing open trumpet! It’s purpose is to give us some time with the horn on face when we can’t make too much noise.
I have one, but I really don't like the sound I'm hearing in the headphones, even top quality ones. What's more, whatever are Yamaha thinking still selling an implement that you have to put batteries in. In this day and age? It should have internal rechargeable batteries, like every other modern device. Personally I think it's not doing me any favours. I use a Shhmute, but even that is not like real playing. What's more, they really should be using Bluetooth, both for the headphones and the bug. Why are they using this outdated technology? Yamaha are supposed to be state of the art...
Yep completely feel your frustration there. Unfortunately there is no perfect world solution when it comes to practice mutes. It’s just what needs to happen from time to time.
@@PhillONeillTrumpet well, it has an essential typo: the verb at the beginning of the sentence is missing a "t". Try www.deepl.com it is much more intelligent than Google translate.
Thanks for checking out my silent brass review. I guess you dont like the back story as to why someone would need a practice mute. Try my practice mute comparison video instead. This video is straight into it. ruclips.net/video/XPnkDm0fsiM/видео.html
Thanks for that. Appreciate the effort you have made. The world's flat-dwelling horn-players need a device like this.
Dad got me one of these, I love it and I’m sure my neighbours do too as I’ve been working on increasing my range 😂
How quiet is this. Im looking for something for my daughter to use at her mothers house. With the cold months coming up hopefully this would be the answer for her.
Hi Matthew, it's pretty quiet. It's probably the softest out of the practice mutes I've used. But it's not nice to play. Very restrictive and makes it hard to adjust when it's taken out. Check out my review of the upmute which I find much better.
ruclips.net/video/YXVDOJtxGDo/видео.html
I've watched a few other videos about these silent mutes, but this one really illustrates the difference in volume best. The trombone version is over $200, so I've been a little hesitant, but now I'm more eager to give this a try.
Try the upmute I've since changed to the upmute since recording this video. It's amazing!!!
In theory your inhales were louder than the trumpet.
The Lowk like a human Kirby
Haha. I had to think about this statement for a minute. I used to love Kirby's dream world. :).
Hi Phil
Thanks for the video, I’ve tried both the Silent Brass mutes. Whilst they do, attenuate the sound. there are issues with tuning and back pressure that you mention. I,d be keen to hear your thoughts on other practice mutes, over the years I’ve tried the Dennis Wick and Schzzzzz mutes. The Schzzz actually is not to bad on tuning. Are you gong to include in your next review the Wallace Pro Silent mute and also the Yahama Nano.
Great channel, keep them coming.
Jim
Portsmouth UK
Hi Jim,
Interesting you say this. I'm currently editing a practice mute comparison video. It'll be coming out soon.
@@PhillONeillTrumpet It will be very helpful. I am thinking about Tom Crown, Bramer sshhmute and Yamacha Silent Brase. I selected it based on information and opinions. Which of them has the best inotation and which has the least back pressure. I think this is very important for beginners. Maybe you can also talk about the feedback pressure. Some manufacturers say that a low back pressure helps develop embouchure. Is it true?
@@sawtom I have just finished my practice mute comparison. for some reason I cant find my SShh mute anymore but there are some good ones here to check out.
ruclips.net/video/XPnkDm0fsiM/видео.html
Hi. I have the Stomvi Upmute, but really notice the back pressure. How does the Yamaha back pressure compare? Cheers
The yamaha back pressure is a lot more noticable than the upmute.
Every mute will always have some level of back pressure. There is no way around it. Just makes sence when you stick something in the bell.
The stomvi has some of the least back pressure out of the practice mutes I've tried (and there are many). But as I mention in the video, my biggest concern with practice mutes is the fuzzy feeling of the lips I get when I take the mute out.
The upmute doesnt have that at all.
@@PhillONeillTrumpet thanks Phill. I've ordered a Yamaha as I like the idea of being able to practice to a backing track on occasion. BTW I'm a Stomvi fan - I have a Classica and I love it :) I bought it after watching one of your demos. 👍
@@SteamMikey You cant go wrong with the classical! It's such an amazing horn!!!
Thanks for a good review. Don´t know if I will buy one now or not, but was a really good review
Thanks Jesper.
Glad you like the review.
Feel free to check out some of my other mute reviews. There’s a cool wooden mute in this video.
ruclips.net/video/6d5Zx3n8DwA/видео.html
@@PhillONeillTrumpet Cool, will check it out. Would be nice with some kind of practice mute in the evenings. I have a Denis Wick mute right now but its no joy at all playing.
I’m yet to meet anyone who enjoys using a practice mute :)
That into is amazing! Does it have a name?
this fanfare has been much more popular than I expected :). I wrote the fanfare to announce the launch of my album "The Operatic Trumpet" you can listen to it on spotify.
open.spotify.com/album/62Zx8HMZA97As7Y48qL4Jt
Thanks Phil, great video! Best wishes!
Ah would have been so helpful to hear the sound un-muted in the room to get a comparison; really considering one of these but even 'reasonably quiet' can disturb housemates
Hi Gggfx,
I have a comparison video coming soon where I play several practice mutes and also without the mute. This should give you a more accurate review for you.
you can record directly to the pc right? through your soundcard?
Truth be told Drumilo I’ve never tried it. I would think it would be able to.
Should I buy just the mute without the reverb device, I do not play trumpet professionally I am just in the 6th grade and my brother hates how loud my trumpet is but I need to hear the not muffle of a regular mute cus I wanna Improve trumpet aspects that would be covered up with a regular mute please help
Thats a good question.
I wouldn't recommend this mute for daily practice. The resistance is too different to normal playing.
Have a look at the UpMute. I find that I can use this mute often and it doesn't destroy my sound when I can play without a mute. Other than that try to stay late at school to practice if the volume annoys your family too much.
ruclips.net/video/YXVDOJtxGDo/видео.html
I will not use it exclusively I would just use it if it’s a bit earlier or if there is a lot of family members around and I can still also practice regularly but just not as much as I would want to so I think this might be a viable option
What mouthpiece you using on this video Phil?
Hi Sipho,
In this video i think i was using Stomvi's 1 1/4C.
Im currently using a warburton mouthpiece these days.
Ive tried soo many different mouthpieces over the years!!!!
What ru using?
@@PhillONeillTrumpet thanks for replying Phil.
I'm using a Vincent Bach 2-1/2c and I think I should try even a bigger mouthpiece that it
Why do you think you should be playing something bigger?
What are you not happy with in ur current mouthpiece?
Really useful video many thanks
Glad you’re finding these useful. Thanks
Great review thanks :)
Glad I could help
I mainly play the flygelhorn in a brassband, does it work for a flygelhorn as well?
Hi Hampus,
You will need to Silent Brass SB6X model for flugel horn.
Its designed specifically for the flugel horn.
I’d love to hear how you go with it.
@@PhillONeillTrumpet Thanks for the quick response! I will definitely consider buying one, feeling at bit bad for my neighbors. Cheers!
👍
Great for recording
how did he move that fast !!!!
The $200 price tag is ludicrous to me so I will get the first gen one on eBay for only $75
The difference between the first generation and 2nd generation is quite a big one. I hated the first generation. It had soo much back pressure and it didn't ground good either.
If you don't want to spen $200 on the gen 2 but you need a practice mute, try the Upmute by Stomvi. Thats a great mute!
Phill O'Neill I wanna plug my trumpet into my brothers guitar amp to get a cool sound so I am gonna probably mostly use it for that too
Thats a lot of fun. If you can find the money for the series 2 then get it because it feels a lot easier to play
Good Morning!
Which mouthpiece are you using?
Hi Alfa,
I'm using a 1 1/4C made by Stomvi in this video.
@@PhillONeillTrumpet I'm from Brazil, Thanks for the reply and congratulations for the work.
@@filipejjc9292 Oh wow. That's really cool. I love how I get to meet people from places I've never been to through RUclips. I do get some tasty coffee grown in Brazil. :)
@@PhillONeillTrumpet Ah yes!! In fact, coffee is very good!
Nice to meet you.
bye!
Thanks!
What trumpet are you using?
Hi Yasmin,
I'm using the Stomvi Master in this video.
I've since changed to the Stomvi Titan 4 valve.
What trumpet do you play?
@@PhillONeillTrumpet Oh wow, no wonder it sounds high quality! I'm about to purchase a silver Yamaha 2330.
@@yasminflores4386 lol. a good player can make anything work. I did a gig with James Morrison. we gave him the oldest instrument we could find with air leaks and rusty valves and he still made it sound superb. Tthe Yamaha 2330 is a reliable trumpet. Treat it well and you will get good use from it.
Thanks mate.
You're welcome Stefan. Where are you located?
@@PhillONeillTrumpet Berlin, Germany. :)
Ohh Berlin, my favourite city in the world. I stayed in potsdamer platz while I was there. Everyone was soo friendly. I can't wait to get back there!
@@PhillONeillTrumpet How cool. :) Yes, it's a nice spot. A lot of changes in the last 30 yrs happened. Come over here :)
I'd love too. We're kinda stuck in Australia for the time being.
Mine just came today. I'm unhappy because the sound is stuffy in my headphones. especially then tonality when I play middle C. Is it this particular mute? Help!
The headphones that come with it aren’t great. You can improve the sound by using better headphones. I suggest using a reverb too.
Using a practice mute is never going to be ideal but there are times you just need to bite the bullet and use one.
I've played mine work music and it was in tune throughout the whole song.
russell straight Nice man. Glad you like it
The sound is a little bit muffled and stuffy, but ok for practice. The most disturbing issue I have is my low C is sharp relative to my middle C - the low C is about 1/2 step sharp . I don't like that it messes with the intonation...
Hi L Wentz,
It is normal for a practice mute to feel more stuffy than playing open.
A practice mute will never have the feel of playing open trumpet! It’s purpose is to give us some time with the horn on face when we can’t make too much noise.
Someone here knows if this mute fits a soprano saxophone help
What would you be trying to achieve by doing this?
Phill buy one for mipor why saxophones and clarinets don't have mutes made especially for our instrument
😣
It can be adapted to a soprano saxophone?
A lot of sound on saxophone comes out of the key holes. Im not sure if using a trumpet practice mute would make it softer.
I have one, but I really don't like the sound I'm hearing in the headphones, even top quality ones. What's more, whatever are Yamaha thinking still selling an implement that you have to put batteries in. In this day and age? It should have internal rechargeable batteries, like every other modern device. Personally I think it's not doing me any favours. I use a Shhmute, but even that is not like real playing. What's more, they really should be using Bluetooth, both for the headphones and the bug. Why are they using this outdated technology? Yamaha are supposed to be state of the art...
Ive moced onto the upmute since making this video.
Check out my review here
ruclips.net/video/YXVDOJtxGDo/видео.html
Some notes are super out of tune for me :/
Yep completely feel your frustration there. Unfortunately there is no perfect world solution when it comes to practice mutes. It’s just what needs to happen from time to time.
Phill O'Neill ok, thanks. It is better than waking the whole neighborhood up 😂
Dam straight 🤣
Is ja richtig billig
Hi Danny. I'm sorry I don't understand.
Lol
@@PhillONeillTrumpet he said it is really cheap in German.
@@Tubetolombe thanks for translating. Google translate wasn't able to help me :(
@@PhillONeillTrumpet well, it has an essential typo: the verb at the beginning of the sentence is missing a "t".
Try www.deepl.com it is much more intelligent than Google translate.
I gotta leave this video and look for another. Why am I 5 minutes in and still watching you unwrap the package? Can I have my time back?
Thanks for checking out my silent brass review. I guess you dont like the back story as to why someone would need a practice mute.
Try my practice mute comparison video instead. This video is straight into it.
ruclips.net/video/XPnkDm0fsiM/видео.html
Just spam the l key or tap on the right side of the video to quickly get to the bit you want!