I did this a while back on the same Jeep. It was a real ball ache. I swore the next time it goes to a shop. Nice job with the video, and great job explaining it.
Thanks for your video. I'm changing my front diff in my '13 Durango, so exact same setup. I'm trying to get the front drive shaft to separate from the front carrier flange. The rear part that fits the transfer case can stay put on mine. It's a shame they didn't even give you a groove to fit something into to wedge it out. Not that there's any room, anyway. So far, the Happy Gilmore tappy tap taps aren't doing anything. I'm letting it soak while I figure out what to do. The grinder method someone mentioned might work. More inclined to try the hammer chisel. Seems like that would hurt a bearing or gear, but my neck can't take laying sideways under this thing for hours.
@alyoungcuda yeah I found the video of it on your play list. Went back 4 years lol. Thank you for your help. I'm half tempted to remove that front drive shaft. I was going to drive without it but your comments said you couldnt?! I'm blown away how that works because when the rear shaft hits a different spot on the transfer case. I'm really confused on that
@@IlikeApplePie4life5 I'm thinking it is that 1 speed or 2 speed transfer case difference , I thought that it will drive on the rear shaft alone like in a Ford explorer that I did that on..but maybe it was the rear shaft that needed to be removed and it drives with the front axle..not sure...
What ended up being the problem ? Having similar sounds and trying to narrow down from front drive shaft or rear drive shaft , lots of jerking and light grinding , but today tge grind was alot harder for some reason
@alyoungcuda ok this sounds so much like the splines grinding I almost want to swear in in one of the drive shafts but I haven't had a chance to get it looked at I work nights and sleep most days and everything is closed when I'm off work ,, thanks I'll let you know what I find out
So i have a 2011 i recently had the driveshaft replaced and whe. I got it back the driveshaft broke within 5 miles of driving it. so they put a new one in and now im getting sort of a grinding noise when accelerating quickly. Now they are trying to tell me its not from their mess up and send me to a transmission guy. Just trying to figure out if that could have damaged the transfer case when the driveshaft broke. Never had this problem prior to bringin it to them.
They are known for transfer case chain and gears slipping like a bicycle chain changing gears on acceleration..I have a video on that noise, could it have been the shaft change? Don't think so, but why did you change the shaft? But the shaft does attach to the gear in the transfer case..so anything is possible
Thanks for sharing, I am struggling to disattach that ring, could you please write the name of required tools? I hammering and using spindle shape tools.
I used all kinds of long punches and pry bars with a hammer to beat the shaft back away from the joint and try to cock it sideways..spray wd40 around it too..it was not easy..it took hours and alot of bruises...
@@alyoungcuda hey, I got good news, I just removed that drive shaft successfuly! I bought big hammer and big pry bar. From a passenger side, I put my bar on side of that big ring and hit many times until it pops out
At 1st I thought it should, I removed the front drive shaft and it did not move. I didn't have the jeep long enough to experiment and remove the rear driveshaft to see if it moves with the front wheel drive way. But fully assembled, it drove but with that noise on 1st take off. Its definitely a bad chain and gears in the transfer case
Will do. I shook the drive shaft for play and it seems solid. It looks not to be in the trans as if I’m moving at speed and put it in neutral the noise dosent go away or change. It’s in something that’s still spinning which is nearly everything... thanks
Found it on Amazon.com..looked up the part number from Autozone.com and searched for the cheapest price with the shipping..Dorman was the company brand
Chattering when accelerating from a stop..its in the other videos..the reason I removed it is in some 4wd like I a Ford, when the noise is in the transfer case by eliminating the problem shaft it can run on 2wd until you replace the box, but in this case the jeep didn't drive at all even with the rear shaft attached. And the way this shaft was on it had to be destroyed to be removed
Going in was a breeze, taking it out was the problem..double check the replacement part, I've seen people buy different brands and sizes and place them in the wrong boxes
Thanks for the fast repose as well as the original video. I was able to get it back together after taking the entire shaft out and putting a little force. Used lots of grease and the vehicle seems fine!! The shaft was fine but I had the front diff out for a job and the shaft came apart.
Dealer would of cost hundreds just to diagnose it. I figured it out for the customer and gave them the choice of what to do with the transfer case if they want to go with a company remanufactored one, have a transmission shop rebuild it or sell or trade the jeep in, customer decided to trade it in.
I did this because I had a Ford that had an issue with the transfer case and by removing the shaft the truck was able to still drive with using the rear drive shaft only.
I’ve heard that if your tires are not perfectly even in tread depth the transfer case will think there is a slippage situation and engage the transfer case. If this happens on dry ground your case is done. When you said electric motor sound that made me think transfer case engagement.
Thanks for posting this video. NOW I KNOW that the problems I had today are 'normal'! If you don't mind, I have 2 questions: 1. How do you get the transfer case to release so you can turn the front drive shaft to get to the bolts? I can't turn the rear wheel b/c it's up on jack stands on an incline, so the rear wheels are chocked with the e-brake on. 2. Did you have a clunking sound like the mount bushings were worn, or was it something else that caused you to look at this drive shaft? Thanks...Chris
The noise reminds me of a slipping chain on a 10 speed bike when you change gears fast..and it only happens on take off with a hard acceleration, but if you coast it from the light or baby it then its fine. My 1st thought was the front differential but I heard it under the seat, so its the chain and gears in the transfer case, it seems to be a common problem. As for spinning the shaft..those back wheels must hang and spin unfortunately...
@@alyoungcuda Thanks for your speedy reply. Good to know about the xfer case chain. OK, thanx for the confirmation about spinning the drive shaft. Incidentally, I got the front drive shaft loose with a 5# hammer and a chisel. A couple good whacks and off it popped!
I have that damn whirring noise. Its a 2015 with 80K on it. Its definitely louder from the driver seat than the passenger. My first thought it was the front diff. I drained the oil and ran a magnet through it and its clean. my though was if its a bearing its got to be shedding metal... The drive shaft is now my thought so thanks for posting the vid.
My 2011 durango citadel has a clunking noise when I give it gas. And worse when I go up hills at speed. I'm pretty sure it's my front drive shaft. Anybody else have this problem.
I did remove this part and in the first snow when I turned to an street my car easily slip to the corner and booom, so hard to brake the car, DO NOT REMOVE THIS PART
Next time leave me your number and I will call you to come hold the camera because if you didn't know. You need 2 hands to do the job, but thanks for the reply... besides you can buy me a hands free go pro or camera that will do the job.
I did this a while back on the same Jeep. It was a real ball ache. I swore the next time it goes to a shop. Nice job with the video, and great job explaining it.
Thanks for the compliments and thanks for watching...
Thanks for taking the time to film this!
My pleasure!
Thanks for your video. I'm changing my front diff in my '13 Durango, so exact same setup. I'm trying to get the front drive shaft to separate from the front carrier flange. The rear part that fits the transfer case can stay put on mine. It's a shame they didn't even give you a groove to fit something into to wedge it out. Not that there's any room, anyway. So far, the Happy Gilmore tappy tap taps aren't doing anything. I'm letting it soak while I figure out what to do. The grinder method someone mentioned might work. More inclined to try the hammer chisel. Seems like that would hurt a bearing or gear, but my neck can't take laying sideways under this thing for hours.
I get it, hopefully everything works out for you. Good luck
Was your sound a popping that sounds like a needle bearing? Like a long roller bearing popping as it rotates
@@IlikeApplePie4life5 noise was more like an old 10 speed bicycle changing speeds and the druella was skipping
@alyoungcuda yeah I found the video of it on your play list. Went back 4 years lol. Thank you for your help. I'm half tempted to remove that front drive shaft. I was going to drive without it but your comments said you couldnt?! I'm blown away how that works because when the rear shaft hits a different spot on the transfer case. I'm really confused on that
@@IlikeApplePie4life5 I'm thinking it is that 1 speed or 2 speed transfer case difference , I thought that it will drive on the rear shaft alone like in a Ford explorer that I did that on..but maybe it was the rear shaft that needed to be removed and it drives with the front axle..not sure...
@alyoungcuda did this have a 4 low or 4 high setting. If so then it would be a 2 speed case if not 1 speed. And mine is 1 speed
@@IlikeApplePie4life5 i don't remember, its been awhile
What ended up being the problem ? Having similar sounds and trying to narrow down from front drive shaft or rear drive shaft , lots of jerking and light grinding , but today tge grind was alot harder for some reason
Ends up being a bad chain in the transfer case..most likely the gears too but most places will only replace the whole unit.
@alyoungcuda ok this sounds so much like the splines grinding I almost want to swear in in one of the drive shafts but I haven't had a chance to get it looked at I work nights and sleep most days and everything is closed when I'm off work ,, thanks I'll let you know what I find out
You test drove it without the fromt drive shaft ?
@@400enzo tried but it won't move..put the shaft on the front and it moved..ended up as a bad transfer case
So if the transfer case is in great health and I remove the half shaft I won’t have rear wheel drive ?
So i have a 2011 i recently had the driveshaft replaced and whe. I got it back the driveshaft broke within 5 miles of driving it. so they put a new one in and now im getting sort of a grinding noise when accelerating quickly. Now they are trying to tell me its not from their mess up and send me to a transmission guy. Just trying to figure out if that could have damaged the transfer case when the driveshaft broke. Never had this problem prior to bringin it to them.
They are known for transfer case chain and gears slipping like a bicycle chain changing gears on acceleration..I have a video on that noise, could it have been the shaft change? Don't think so, but why did you change the shaft? But the shaft does attach to the gear in the transfer case..so anything is possible
I have my jeep has same problem i want to get fix please
On this jeep, it ended up being a bad transfer case
Thanks for sharing, I am struggling to disattach that ring, could you please write the name of required tools? I hammering and using spindle shape tools.
I used all kinds of long punches and pry bars with a hammer to beat the shaft back away from the joint and try to cock it sideways..spray wd40 around it too..it was not easy..it took hours and alot of bruises...
@@alyoungcuda hey, I got good news, I just removed that drive shaft successfuly! I bought big hammer and big pry bar. From a passenger side, I put my bar on side of that big ring and hit many times until it pops out
Thats great..these east coast rust buckets are rough up here
Hello. Can the vehicle work that way with only rear-wheel drive?
At 1st I thought it should, I removed the front drive shaft and it did not move. I didn't have the jeep long enough to experiment and remove the rear driveshaft to see if it moves with the front wheel drive way. But fully assembled, it drove but with that noise on 1st take off. Its definitely a bad chain and gears in the transfer case
Take a grinder, grind a line down the side on each side and the use a flat head to slowly move it out
I didn't want to do that incase it throws it out of balance , who knows what a little metal off can do...😆
Will do. I shook the drive shaft for play and it seems solid. It looks not to be in the trans as if I’m moving at speed and put it in neutral the noise dosent go away or change. It’s in something that’s still spinning which is nearly everything... thanks
Spoke to a transmission guy and he said its the chain and sprockets in the transfer case
number of part of the valero to buy it please and where you bought it.?
Found it on Amazon.com..looked up the part number from Autozone.com and searched for the cheapest price with the shipping..Dorman was the company brand
I used a long chisel and a heavy hammer on the hard pieces and the shaft released. What were your symptoms to change this part?
Chattering when accelerating from a stop..its in the other videos..the reason I removed it is in some 4wd like I a Ford, when the noise is in the transfer case by eliminating the problem shaft it can run on 2wd until you replace the box, but in this case the jeep didn't drive at all even with the rear shaft attached. And the way this shaft was on it had to be destroyed to be removed
@@alyoungcuda That's weird, I have a 2002 GC and it runs in 2wd without the front shaft. I wonder what changed.
@@PlasticCogLiquid the transfer case gears and chain I guess...I installed the front shaft and it drove..removed it and it didn't move..
Did it make the rumbling noise. And was it the front transfer or rear differential. I’m 2 days in on getting it Out .
It was the transfer case in this one, wished I can get my hands on an old one to take apart, I'm interested in looking at the chain and gears..
Thank you. I’m still working on it. 9 cars one Mechanic
Found a easier way to get the driveshaft off
Didn’t have no spin from the rear wheels
@@messemckalister its one of the comments on these videos. I think there were 3 and one mechanic states there will be no rear power
How did you put the new driveshaft? I’m trying on my 2011 dodge Durango but looks bigger and it doesn’t fit
Going in was a breeze, taking it out was the problem..double check the replacement part, I've seen people buy different brands and sizes and place them in the wrong boxes
Can this drive shaft be rebuilt?
I don't see aftermarket parts available for it, maybe at the dealership you can buy rebuild parts, but aftermarket is the whole driveshaft
Thanks for the fast repose as well as the original video. I was able to get it back together after taking the entire shaft out and putting a little force. Used lots of grease and the vehicle seems fine!! The shaft was fine but I had the front diff out for a job and the shaft came apart.
@@waterfresh sounds good and thanks for watching...
Hi Al just curious, did the dealership do the work? Thanks for all the videos.
Dealer would of cost hundreds just to diagnose it. I figured it out for the customer and gave them the choice of what to do with the transfer case if they want to go with a company remanufactored one, have a transmission shop rebuild it or sell or trade the jeep in, customer decided to trade it in.
@@alyoungcuda thanks for the quick reply. less than $300 in parts, rear facing cover i may do it. thanks again for your help.
Why did you do this? I have a noise sounds like bearings and a electric motor under the jeep. I’m curious if it’s this or transfer case
I did this because I had a Ford that had an issue with the transfer case and by removing the shaft the truck was able to still drive with using the rear drive shaft only.
I’ve heard that if your tires are not perfectly even in tread depth the transfer case will think there is a slippage situation and engage the transfer case. If this happens on dry ground your case is done. When you said electric motor sound that made me think transfer case engagement.
So what happend after? Did the noise go away?
No..it needed a transfer case rebuild..
@@alyoungcuda Thabks Man!
Ah crap lol
Thanks for posting this video. NOW I KNOW that the problems I had today are 'normal'!
If you don't mind, I have 2 questions:
1. How do you get the transfer case to release so you can turn the front drive shaft to get to the bolts? I can't turn the rear wheel b/c it's up on jack stands on an incline, so the rear wheels are chocked with the e-brake on.
2. Did you have a clunking sound like the mount bushings were worn, or was it something else that caused you to look at this drive shaft?
Thanks...Chris
The noise reminds me of a slipping chain on a 10 speed bike when you change gears fast..and it only happens on take off with a hard acceleration, but if you coast it from the light or baby it then its fine. My 1st thought was the front differential but I heard it under the seat, so its the chain and gears in the transfer case, it seems to be a common problem.
As for spinning the shaft..those back wheels must hang and spin unfortunately...
@@alyoungcuda
Thanks for your speedy reply.
Good to know about the xfer case chain.
OK, thanx for the confirmation about spinning the drive shaft.
Incidentally, I got the front drive shaft loose with a 5# hammer and a chisel. A couple good whacks and off it popped!
@@chriscadman5715 yours came out easy..😆
I have that damn whirring noise. Its a 2015 with 80K on it. Its definitely louder from the driver seat than the passenger. My first thought it was the front diff. I drained the oil and ran a magnet through it and its clean. my though was if its a bearing its got to be shedding metal... The drive shaft is now my thought so thanks for posting the vid.
You can drain the transfer oil to see too if you want
My 2011 durango citadel has a clunking noise when I give it gas. And worse when I go up hills at speed. I'm pretty sure it's my front drive shaft. Anybody else have this problem.
Its the same drivetrain
Thanks for the video
Hope it helps you out...thanks for watching...
Air hammer works great
Invention of power tools makes it alot easier..lol
There easy to take out and even to repair
Im sure maybe in a non rust belt region it will pop out but here in the Salt and rust, its not that easy...
I did remove this part and in the first snow when I turned to an street my car easily slip to the corner and booom, so hard to brake the car, DO NOT REMOVE THIS PART
When you remove it, you take away the front wheel drive of the four wheel drive..it would be like driving an old rear wheel drive car.
Don’t show it being taken out thank
Next time leave me your number and I will call you to come hold the camera because if you didn't know. You need 2 hands to do the job, but thanks for the reply... besides you can buy me a hands free go pro or camera that will do the job.