Люблю игру Гилельса. Он был гений. Но и Соколов гениален, как можно сравнивать и к чему? Надо только слушать и наслаждаться, и благодарить судьбу, что мы можем их слушать.
Music and interpretation of inhuman beauty... Can lightness be searing? Can a burn be welcomed? Let's just skip pretentious confirmations. Sokolov is in his own element - unique to him unknowable way to get under one`s skin, stay there and tear things apart gently only to put everything back together just as gently with the sense of deepest resolution. All in 3 minutes. This is art.
Elmar Bagirov Космос! Великий художник помянул другого - ушедшего. Но и космическое одиночество. Быть может, схожее с одиночеством человека, принявшего решение провидца, каким мы сегодня видим Э.Г. Гилельса 1966 года. Вряд ли стоит сравнивать две интерпретации. Уверен, что Гилельс «присутствует» исполнении Г.Л. Соколова. Лучшего поминовения Эмиля Григорьевича я не знаю.
I don't like comparing performances because everyone is unique and has something to offer but I do agree with you on this one. Gilels performance is otherworldly!
I just don't know what it is that makes me so extremely emotional about this interpretation. I compare it to Gilels and see that Sokolov playes the piece much straighter / less romantic. But as soon as he plays the first note I start crying. I can't explain why. Its pure magic! Gilels playing is also nice to listen to but maybe he is trying to do more out of the piece- its musical structure is actually quite simple (but of course genius) and I think Sokolov shows us the perfect rendition of this simplicity. Not too much but also not to less. He's a true master...
Agree. It’s difficult to explain why it is so beautiful. One way I could possible attempt to describe it, would be the notion that there is a sense of hopelessness, something is lost not romanised. In essence, he is saying goodbye to something that no longer exists. I think this is achieved through the tempo and “cold” way he plays it. This gives the piece an almost tragic, rather than romantic feeling
Говорят, что когда в Харькове он закончил концерт на бис этой прелюдией, все просто встали и разошлись - аплодисментов не было. Они разрушили бы что-то созданное Григорием. Браво!
Grigory Sokolov is wise enough to get out of the way and let Bach and Siloti speak. This requires great humilty, which is also evident when he takes a single bow at the end of a performance and then leaves the stage without any fanfare. Pianists like Yuja Wang could profit from Maestro Sokolov's example. It takes a certain maturity for soloists to accept the fact that it's all about the music, with the musician serving as a dutiful midwife for the creation of the composer.
Sokolov has long been at the point where he doesn't need to prove himself. Younger pianists still feel the need to "show off", Sokolov clearly doesn't care about that. Yuja is technically brilliant, but I doubt people will remember her for her musical interpretations.
El tema B parecería de película hermosa. Solo Bach pudo haber compuesto esta maravilla, esta joya musical. Esta obra es la “personificación” de la perfección de principio a fin. Mesmeriza, hechiza de principio a fin.
Богу Слава! Мир вам! ~ под прелюдию Баха~Зилоти ~ стою я пред Богом под небом одна во Вселенной и с неба на землю летят огромные хлопья мягкого снега, а может весёлым стеклярусом сыплется град, ангел слезинки роняет в дождинках или ливнем обильным хлещет с небес водопад, омывая небесной крещенской купелью как же ещё нас грешных спасать? 26 января 2017 ~ ночь ~ накануне отдания праздника Богоявления
Не надо ни с кем сравнивать! Пианист Гений! И об этом говорят те чувства, которые испытываешь во время исполнения! У меня на голове зашевелились волосы, это ли не доказательство мощнейшего воздействия божественного звучания!!!!!!!!
Он на концерте в Милане играл последний бис эту прелюдию. Это было так завораживающи. Он не сыграл что-то мощьное, быстрое на последний бис, нет, он окончил Бахом, великим Бахом
If you're a pianist and have played this, you know how easy the notes are and how difficult it is to make them sing. Gilels used this as an encore over decades and, to my way of thinking, set a high standard. Great as Sokolov is in baroque (c.f. his readings of Bach's Kunst der Fuge) the opening bars here feel a bit stiff. Then he relaxes beautifully.
I have the score for harp and play it on piano. It's longer. The Prelude is A. Siloti creation on J.S.Bach Prelude in E-minor WTC 1 volume. The left hand tune.
7 лет назад
The Prelude in B minor is a transcription for piano by Alexander Siloti of the Prelude in E minor BWV 855a by Johann Sebastian Bach from his Klavierbüchlein für Wilhelm Friedemann Bach
They have very superficial similarities. What I love about these two is that when one of them fails for my taste, the other exceeds my expectations. I love Bach by both of them.
Nobody tells Sokolov how to play, he just goes his own way...a real artist, compared to all the young ones who play with cold mathematical "perfection" that leaves the listener emotionally cold.
Космос! Великий художник помянул другого - ушедшего. Но и космическое одиночество. Быть может, схожее с одиночеством человека, принявшего решение провидца, каким мы сегодня видим Э.Г. Гилельса 1966 года. Вряд ли стоит сравнивать две интерпретации. Уверен, что Гилельс «присутствует» в исполнении Г.Л. Соколова. Лучшего поминовения Эмиля Григорьевича я не знаю.
Несомненно хорошее исполнение, но темп !!! Совершенно другой! Гилельс все же исполнял совершенно по другому, Душа раскрывалась и пела, там какой то другой уровень!
а что тебе в этом слышется? Мне слышется : правой рукой пробуждение желания и надежды, а левая рука демонстрирует решительность действий , которые растворяются к финалу ,толи .из-а недостаточной агрессии, толи из-за избыточной деликатности. Финал обидный и трогательный , а могло бы все закончиться победным апофеозом. Ну , нет хепи энда! И всплывают воспоминания из собственного жизненного опыта...
Nikolai Medtner took his brother Emil wife. Three of them lived together and than Emil left for Germany. Nikolai and Anna joint Emil that gave up his wife and they live happily ever after. Russian music historian hide this fact.
Очень всегда берёт за душу это исполнение... Спасибо огромное! Если любите это произведение, можете посмотреть, как исполнил его юный украинский талант: ruclips.net/video/X3o3FnJYevM/видео.html
Why the heck did Siloti write the third measure DIFFERENT than what Bach wrote? He could have just kept the 16th notes as Bach wrote. But he didn't. I see no reason for the change.
This is NOT a "song," It is a "PIECE." Okay? A PIECE of music. Do not refer to it as a "song," A song is something that is SUNG. By humans. So tired of this. I hear Beethoven's symphonies being referred to as "songs," ("Oh, I love that song by Beethoven, you know, the fifth!") and I want to strangle them. They are "Preludes," "Quartets," "Trios" "Sonatas" "Polonaises," "Symphonies," "Concertos," "Fugues," "Serenades," -- WHATEVER! -- But NOT "SONGS!" Unless they are specifically SONGS, then they are not called "SONGS," OKAY????
***** I think you will find that the correct English translation of the German word 'lied' is the English word 'song'. All German-English dictionaries give the English word 'song' as the most appropriate translation of 'lied'. My point was a point about the English word ' song'. Not about the German word 'song'. The English word 'song' (like the German word 'lied') can be a song with words and without. Indeed, it can also be a poem which has not been set to music - the Biblical Song of Songs, or Blake's Songs of Innocence and of Experience.
***** Yes - I completely agree with you - arguing about the meaning of words is unlikely to help anyone appreciate the music. We usually know what another person is really trying to say. Correcting the way they say it is often simply an unnecessary distraction. Sometimes it can be unfriendly, or aggressive, or arrogant. (There is, I think, an example earlier in this thread - which actually provoked my first comment). I agree - let us concentrate on the music!!
I agree, but there is another version of Sokolov that is much better than this one. And there is also a pretty unknown version by the German pianist Wolfram Schmitt-Leonardy which is wonderful. ruclips.net/video/0XDoup7HbFc/видео.html
This is not a baroque piece but a trascription after Bach by one od the greatest Virtuoso Pianist of all time... Sokolov has extraordinary technical abilities but unfortunately a tendency to play everything Staccato and way too articulated. His sound is clear yet not very round, warm and nuanced. His usage of pedal is extremely controlled leaving romantic pianistic repertoire somewhat dry and rigid. I truly recommend Sokolov with Rameau however the best rendering of this piece was made by Gilels ! No one comes close to his interpretation !
Don't know how many times I listened it... again and again...if there's a music for all people, this is it. Sokolov - it's divine translator
Thanks from Russia. My teacher has remembered Sokolov as young student in Leningrad in USSR
Sokolov has a finesse that is uniquely suited to the Baroque period. I love his interpretation of Rameau.
Rameau didn’t compose it. Bach did.
To tell that story -through that maze of technical and musical difficulties, - and tell it so convincingly, is simply…….. awe inspiring … ⭐️⭐️⭐️
C'est comme s'il tombait et se relevait à chaque note porté par la musique. D'une beauté tragique totalement émouvante.
Люблю игру Гилельса. Он был гений. Но и Соколов гениален, как можно сравнивать и к чему? Надо только слушать и наслаждаться, и благодарить судьбу, что мы можем их слушать.
да ради бога
Как верно, Елена!
I definitely prefer Sololov's interpretation.
Да, просто есть гении и есть превосходные музыканты! Григорий Соколов недосягаем для остальных!
The human essence... no word needed
Music and interpretation of inhuman beauty... Can lightness be searing? Can a burn be welcomed? Let's just skip pretentious confirmations. Sokolov is in his own element - unique to him unknowable way to get under one`s skin, stay there and tear things apart gently only to put everything back together just as gently with the sense of deepest resolution. All in 3 minutes. This is art.
All music emanates from the spring of Father Bach.
He's 1 in a quadrillion.
So simple yet so gracefully profound. Wow!
Poesia pura..... una assoluta meraviglia!
Silenzio suona Sokolov ! Trattenete il respiro. E" UNA MERAVIGLIA . GRAZIE INFINITE
Merci Jidong Zhong pour cette découverte qui me ravit l'âme.
Divine. Bach + Sokolov 💙💫
I love this piece. Brings me to tears. It is love as sound.
Art in interpretation. Bravo and thank you Sir Sokolov.
Pura magia...
No one does this piece justice as Gilels. That is the absolute best rendition of this piece.
Agreed
This is true. There is something both mystic and deeply human with Gilels which is hardly found with others.
rigel48 agree 100 %
Elmar Bagirov
Космос! Великий художник помянул другого - ушедшего. Но и
космическое одиночество. Быть может, схожее с одиночеством человека, принявшего
решение провидца, каким мы сегодня видим Э.Г. Гилельса 1966 года. Вряд ли стоит
сравнивать две интерпретации. Уверен, что Гилельс «присутствует» исполнении
Г.Л. Соколова. Лучшего поминовения Эмиля Григорьевича я не знаю.
I don't like comparing performances because everyone is unique and has something to offer but I do agree with you on this one. Gilels performance is otherworldly!
This performance is perfection in its balance, dynamics, tonal range. Brilliant and very moving! Thank you for sharing.,
I just don't know what it is that makes me so extremely emotional about this interpretation. I compare it to Gilels and see that Sokolov playes the piece much straighter / less romantic. But as soon as he plays the first note I start crying. I can't explain why. Its pure magic! Gilels playing is also nice to listen to but maybe he is trying to do more out of the piece- its musical structure is actually quite simple (but of course genius) and I think Sokolov shows us the perfect rendition of this simplicity. Not too much but also not to less. He's a true master...
Yes. I think this rendition is extraordinary.
i agree
True master? We have many true masters, sokolov is a GOD
Agree. It’s difficult to explain why it is so beautiful. One way I could possible attempt to describe it, would be the notion that there is a sense of hopelessness, something is lost not romanised. In essence, he is saying goodbye to something that no longer exists. I think this is achieved through the tempo and “cold” way he plays it. This gives the piece an almost tragic, rather than romantic feeling
It's the piece. It's just pure genius - each progression pierces the heart just a little more and yes it induces the tears.
Thank you for sharing this gem. He is one of my favorite as well.
TOUT SIMPLEMENT MAGNIFIQUE et TRèS PROFOND !!!
Говорят, что когда в Харькове он закончил концерт на бис этой прелюдией,
все просто встали и разошлись - аплодисментов не было.
Они разрушили бы что-то созданное Григорием.
Браво!
Символично. На Родине Александра Силоти.
Да! После такого гениального выступления апплодисменты звучат как-то нелепо. Хочется тихо плакать, а не громко хлопать в ладоши.
Не тот Харьков пошел .. не той ...
As wonderful as the sound (the music) is, I long for an acoustical experience. Many thanks for this marvelous opportunity.
Grigory Sokolov is wise enough to get out of the way and let Bach and Siloti speak. This requires great humilty, which is also evident when he takes a single bow at the end of a performance and then leaves the stage without any fanfare. Pianists like Yuja Wang could profit from Maestro Sokolov's example. It takes a certain maturity for soloists to accept the fact that it's all about the music, with the musician serving as a dutiful midwife for the creation of the composer.
Sokolov has long been at the point where he doesn't need to prove himself. Younger pianists still feel the need to "show off", Sokolov clearly doesn't care about that. Yuja is technically brilliant, but I doubt people will remember her for her musical interpretations.
@@SabatSch95 Then maybe music is what she should seek ? Showing off can't compensate in front of every audience...
You’re really overthinking it. Shut up.
Я не согласна с определением "послушная акушерка". По моему мнению, без талантливого исполнителя волшебства музыки нет
El tema B parecería de película hermosa. Solo Bach pudo haber compuesto esta maravilla, esta joya musical.
Esta obra es la “personificación” de la perfección de principio a fin.
Mesmeriza, hechiza de principio a fin.
Thats pure mastery❤
It is prelude in B minor by Siloti...it's an arrangement of Bach's Prelude in E minor from the Well Tempered Klavier book 1.
Thanks much. Sokolov is a great pianist and wonderful interpretater of music.
Богу Слава! Мир вам!
~ под прелюдию Баха~Зилоти ~
стою я пред Богом под небом
одна во Вселенной
и с неба на землю летят
огромные хлопья мягкого снега,
а может весёлым стеклярусом сыплется град,
ангел слезинки роняет в дождинках
или ливнем обильным хлещет с небес водопад,
омывая небесной крещенской купелью
как же ещё нас грешных спасать?
26 января 2017 ~ ночь ~ накануне отдания праздника Богоявления
Big Thanks to you Jidong ,it made my day
Не надо ни с кем сравнивать! Пианист Гений! И об этом говорят те чувства, которые испытываешь во время исполнения! У меня на голове зашевелились волосы, это ли не доказательство мощнейшего воздействия божественного звучания!!!!!!!!
Had not heard this before, happy to learn of its existence - it's the closest I have heard Bach come to romance. No wonder it moves to tears.
Have you heard „Bach - Busoni - ich rufe zu dir Herr Jesu Christ“?
the best rendition of this prelude !!!!!!!!! incomparable !!!!!
By so far
Wow, what a great performance! This guy has tone ;)
The best interpretation of this legendary masterpiece 🎹🎶🙏🏻🙌💙🔥
Gilels is better.
No one comes even close to Gilels! Legendary ! This is not Bach it is a transcription of Bach... should be played accordingly
In my view this one is far better than Gilels, there is an inevitability in Sokolov’s phrasing that make this rendition stand out.
But tastes differ.
Какое наслаждение слушать его игру
Merci pour partager. Grandioso Sokolov .
genialnie💐
Браво!вы лучший!здоровья вам и удачи!
amazing!
Masterpiece 🌿🌿🌿
Он на концерте в Милане играл последний бис эту прелюдию. Это было так завораживающи.
Он не сыграл что-то мощьное, быстрое на последний бис, нет, он окончил Бахом, великим Бахом
Thank you 4 sharing
Чем больше разнообразия тем лучше!!!
If you're a pianist and have played this, you know how easy the notes are and how difficult it is to make them sing. Gilels used this as an encore over decades and, to my way of thinking, set a high standard. Great as Sokolov is in baroque (c.f. his readings of Bach's Kunst der Fuge) the opening bars here feel a bit stiff. Then he relaxes beautifully.
Genial...einfach genial...
Был на его концертах в Питере не один раз и горжусь этим! Не понимаю тех, кто ставит дизлайки.
Вы счастливый человек! Я плачу, слушая записи...
Счастливчик
@@НатальяПронина-и7с Не то слово
super vidéo merci
Esecuzione perfetta
Genius!!!!
Magistral.
Unbelievable!
ГЕНИАЛЬНО!!
I have the score for harp and play it on piano. It's longer. The Prelude is A. Siloti creation on J.S.Bach Prelude in E-minor WTC 1 volume. The left hand tune.
The Prelude in B minor is a transcription for piano by Alexander Siloti of the Prelude in E minor BWV 855a by Johann Sebastian Bach from his Klavierbüchlein für Wilhelm Friedemann Bach
Une interpretation exceptionnelle, avec une ligne de chant subblime.
I need the notes to this beautiful piece so bad
IMSLP
Interesting voicing switch for the repeat.
Yes, no doubt, Gilels interpretation is just heaven.
Parabéns à sua super sensibilidade. É fantástico *
Big Thanks to you Jidong
Gillels' is pure poetry (but very conventional). This one has more to do with strength and creativity. Both are admirable.
Eccellente
Sokolov is the Russian Glenn Gould. Such impeccable devotion to clarity.
Sokolov is Sokolov,unique genius
They have very superficial similarities. What I love about these two is that when one of them fails for my taste, the other exceeds my expectations. I love Bach by both of them.
Nobody tells Sokolov how to play, he just goes his own way...a real artist, compared to all the young ones who play with cold mathematical "perfection" that leaves the listener emotionally cold.
He is the only one to find a other way to the emperor Gilels so bravissimo
Настоящий Мастер!
Don't "cry" always, ladies ... no more tissues left.
Transcendental...
Wis the first time I hear this Prel in Eminor of Bach- siloti .can you put in sheet ? I live far away from this is for buy
it's like the music of god..
Everyone did learn from Bach!
Гилельс навсегда!
does anyone has the complete score? Somehow Siloti´s available scores have only 2 pages... this might be an extended version I suppose?
***** Hi Jidong. How silly of me! I really didnt notice hauhauuhahuahua. Thanks a lot :-D
Космос! Великий художник помянул другого - ушедшего. Но и космическое одиночество. Быть может, схожее с одиночеством человека, принявшего решение провидца, каким мы сегодня видим Э.Г. Гилельса 1966 года. Вряд ли стоит сравнивать две интерпретации. Уверен, что Гилельс «присутствует» в исполнении Г.Л. Соколова. Лучшего поминовения Эмиля Григорьевича я не знаю.
+mnikeshichev 100%
Несомненно хорошее исполнение, но темп !!! Совершенно другой! Гилельс все же исполнял совершенно по другому, Душа раскрывалась и пела, там какой то другой уровень!
@@elmiramuradova561 соглас на с вами! Другой уровень!
I find it a tad too fast and too much forte, and despite the technical simplity of the piece, there seems to be a little slip in his fingers at 0:31.
sorry it is prelude in n minor:p didn't see the composer's name, thought it was from Chopin
소콜로프는 진정한 살아있는 전설이다.....😐
Как много можно сказать музыкой!
+Иван Поддубный Daaaaa!!!!!!!
а что тебе в этом слышется? Мне слышется : правой рукой пробуждение желания и надежды, а левая рука демонстрирует решительность действий , которые растворяются к финалу ,толи .из-а недостаточной агрессии, толи из-за избыточной деликатности. Финал обидный и трогательный , а могло бы все закончиться победным апофеозом. Ну , нет хепи энда! И всплывают воспоминания из собственного жизненного опыта...
@@ИванПоддубный-т6з А мне во второй части слышатся как падают тяжёлые и горькие слёзы Силоти в тоске по Родине.
Nikolai Medtner took his brother Emil wife. Three of them lived together and than Emil left for Germany. Nikolai and Anna joint Emil that gave up his wife and they live happily ever after. Russian music historian hide this fact.
:) I was mistaken, sorry. Thanks for telling me.
🍀🍀🍀🍀
Великий пианист, больше нечего сказать.
Vadim Kholodenko has the ultimate performance of this piece. By far.
Очень всегда берёт за душу это исполнение... Спасибо огромное!
Если любите это произведение, можете посмотреть, как исполнил его юный украинский талант: ruclips.net/video/X3o3FnJYevM/видео.html
Yann Tiersen did learn from Bach?
what Yann Tiersen s work do you mean
Jidong ,please do not refer to music played on an instrument as a song; this is not a song. I really like Sokolov's interpretation.
Can't find the right words. Maybe "magic"
Why the heck did Siloti write the third measure DIFFERENT than what Bach wrote? He could have just kept the 16th notes as Bach wrote. But he didn't. I see no reason for the change.
...слухи о некой соколиности угнетающе приувиличины .
This is NOT a "song," It is a "PIECE." Okay? A PIECE of music. Do not refer to it as a "song," A song is something that is SUNG. By humans. So tired of this. I hear Beethoven's symphonies being referred to as "songs," ("Oh, I love that song by Beethoven, you know, the fifth!") and I want to strangle them.
They are "Preludes," "Quartets," "Trios" "Sonatas" "Polonaises," "Symphonies," "Concertos," "Fugues," "Serenades," -- WHATEVER! -- But NOT "SONGS!" Unless they are specifically SONGS, then they are not called "SONGS," OKAY????
Songs don't need to be pieces of music that are sung.
Btw, this is a nice song.
How about Mendelssohn's piano pieces, "Songs Without Words" (Lieder ohne Worte) ?
***** I think you will find that the correct English translation of the German word 'lied' is the English word 'song'. All German-English dictionaries give the English word 'song' as the most appropriate translation of 'lied'. My point was a point about the English word ' song'. Not about the German word 'song'. The English word 'song' (like the German word 'lied') can be a song with words and without. Indeed, it can also be a poem which has not been set to music - the Biblical Song of Songs, or Blake's Songs of Innocence and of Experience.
***** Yes - I completely agree with you - arguing about the meaning of words is unlikely to help anyone appreciate the music. We usually know what another person is really trying to say. Correcting the way they say it is often simply an unnecessary distraction. Sometimes it can be unfriendly, or aggressive, or arrogant. (There is, I think, an example earlier in this thread - which actually provoked my first comment). I agree - let us concentrate on the music!!
Agreed !
Per favore ascoltate Gilels...
И Зилоти и Перекличку птиц Рамо лучше исполняет Эмиль Гилельс, причём гениально.
i don't think this is prelude in b minor.. it sounds very beautiful though :)
In my opinion, Gilel will never be surpassed on this one...
I agree, but there is another version of Sokolov that is much better than this one. And there is also a pretty unknown version by the German pianist Wolfram Schmitt-Leonardy which is wonderful. ruclips.net/video/0XDoup7HbFc/видео.html
Разговор с Богом, не иначе, самая трогающая вещь из всей музыки, до глубины души
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Generally I like Grigory´s vitality, but this is incomparable and THE reference recording (at least so far) ruclips.net/video/cIUrWE0xbNw/видео.html
This is not a baroque piece but a trascription after Bach by one od the greatest Virtuoso Pianist of all time... Sokolov has extraordinary technical abilities but unfortunately a tendency to play everything Staccato and way too articulated. His sound is clear yet not very round, warm and nuanced. His usage of pedal is extremely controlled leaving romantic pianistic repertoire somewhat dry and rigid. I truly recommend Sokolov with Rameau however the best rendering of this piece was made by Gilels ! No one comes close to his interpretation !