Jazz was always changing in the early decades, and Louis himself transitioned gracefully from the 1920s New Orleans small-group sound (a.k.a. "Dixieland") to the commercial big-band swing that swept the nation in the mid-1930s. Eddie Condon, mentioned by the narrator at the beginning ("they flat their fifths, we drink ours") was part of a Dixieland revival movement, that like Bebop, went against the swing mainstream, though with a different goal in mind. Louis had already abandoned big-band swing (at least for his touring bands) by the time this video was made, though he returned to the format in the studio and on special occasions like this concert. Like Red Holloway says at the end, Louis wasn't truly at war with the boppers, and actually by the time this was recorded, Dizzy himself had turned in a more commercial direction because he was tired of making records that appealed (and sold) only to critics and musicians...Dizzy had a family to support, and wasn't above moving towards the mainstream and being more of a Louis Armstrong-like entertainer. Bop of course thrived commercially well into the 1960s (fracturing into a few sub-genres like hard bop, modal jazz, soul jazz and boogaloo), and even when it stopped selling records, continued to thrive as a live music in local jazz scenes.
There's a photo in Dizzy's autobiography of him, Louis, and several other people at a party at Dizzy's house, laughing at a joke and having a good time. I read that at a tribute concert (I think) late in Louis's life, Dizzy spoke and said, "I want to thank Mr. Louis Armstrong for my livelihood."
Horrible tittle but this video clip is history. I would rather this video be called to be or not to bop. I don’t know what Hip hop has to do with musicians and musicianship other than they steal it and augment it like it’s terminator or Frankenstein.
Great to see a young-ish, vital Louis perform in something other than a goofy newsreel-quality performance. Too bad we don't get to hear his horn here. That footage where Louis and Diz trade 4s on the Gleason show seems pretty under-rehearsed and is such a disappointment. To hear two generations playing at, then with each other would've been for the ages
Mal Theri, Bebop was replacing big band/swing and Armstrong was upset with their pretentious attitudes and stupid hats. Swing was for the people to dance to and enjoy, and Bebop was for the musicians to enjoy with “NO DANCING!”
I am a huge Louis Armstrong and Dizzy Gillespie fan. It is totally ridiculous and even insulting to call the music that Lewis and Dizzy are playing in this video... RAP !!! This is not rap music... Not even any similarities at all. Once again it's just stupid and insulting to the art form of AMERICAN JAZZ !!!
Get over urself. Hip hop is to this generation what bebop was several generations b4 it. Only critics and onlookers wouldn’t understand that. +And if ur having difficulty understanding it’s probably bcuz neither generation was talking 2 u.
The clip of Louis and Dizzy playing Any Umbrellas on RUclips together is the best retort to this
Your parasol is JUICY, boy 💦
Jazz was always changing in the early decades, and Louis himself transitioned gracefully from the 1920s New Orleans small-group sound (a.k.a. "Dixieland") to the commercial big-band swing that swept the nation in the mid-1930s. Eddie Condon, mentioned by the narrator at the beginning ("they flat their fifths, we drink ours") was part of a Dixieland revival movement, that like Bebop, went against the swing mainstream, though with a different goal in mind. Louis had already abandoned big-band swing (at least for his touring bands) by the time this video was made, though he returned to the format in the studio and on special occasions like this concert. Like Red Holloway says at the end, Louis wasn't truly at war with the boppers, and actually by the time this was recorded, Dizzy himself had turned in a more commercial direction because he was tired of making records that appealed (and sold) only to critics and musicians...Dizzy had a family to support, and wasn't above moving towards the mainstream and being more of a Louis Armstrong-like entertainer. Bop of course thrived commercially well into the 1960s (fracturing into a few sub-genres like hard bop, modal jazz, soul jazz and boogaloo), and even when it stopped selling records, continued to thrive as a live music in local jazz scenes.
There's a photo in Dizzy's autobiography of him, Louis, and several other people at a party at Dizzy's house, laughing at a joke and having a good time. I read that at a tribute concert (I think) late in Louis's life, Dizzy spoke and said, "I want to thank Mr. Louis Armstrong for my livelihood."
What a great clip!! Thanks for uploading!!
That’s red Holloway , one of greatest sax players , he’s talking about the hep jazz truth
Awesome. Thank you for posting!
So beautiful!
Haha, this really is an old-school battle rap, 2:10 hahaha. Strange though Louis played with dizzy
Horrible tittle but this video clip is history. I would rather this video be called to be or not to bop. I don’t know what Hip hop has to do with musicians and musicianship other than they steal it and augment it like it’s terminator or Frankenstein.
Stuff Smith's singing should also be recognized w/Cab&Satch.
Can I get a transcript of this
Which documentary this
Great to see a young-ish, vital Louis perform in something other than a goofy newsreel-quality performance. Too bad we don't get to hear his horn here. That footage where Louis and Diz trade 4s on the Gleason show seems pretty under-rehearsed and is such a disappointment. To hear two generations playing at, then with each other would've been for the ages
Such sass.
Who's the dude at the end? What the heck is he talking about?!
Watch "Jazz" a documentary By Ken Burns
They constitute all weird personell
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i don't get it.
You wouldn't.
Mal Theri, Bebop was replacing big band/swing and Armstrong was upset with their pretentious attitudes and stupid hats. Swing was for the people to dance to and enjoy, and Bebop was for the musicians to enjoy with “NO DANCING!”
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I am a huge Louis Armstrong and Dizzy Gillespie fan.
It is totally ridiculous and even insulting to call the music that Lewis and Dizzy are playing in this video... RAP !!!
This is not rap music... Not even any similarities at all.
Once again it's just stupid and insulting to the art form of AMERICAN JAZZ !!!
Get over urself. Hip hop is to this generation what bebop was several generations b4 it. Only critics and onlookers wouldn’t understand that. +And if ur having difficulty understanding it’s probably bcuz neither generation was talking 2 u.