Phil Rudd, the master of minimalism. The notes he’s playing are easy but it’s not what you play it’s how you play it. Nobody will ever have a rock groove as good as Phil
Not all that he plays is easy! Try playing Let there be Rock the same way he plays it. 1/8 notes on the high hat and never stopping bass drum for the whole almost 7 minutes.
The irony about AC/DC is that they are a band that are very easy to imitate, but they are impossible to replicate. Another sidenote: Thunderstruck was played originally by Chris Slade, not Phil Rudd. Chris doesn’t accent the hi hat nearly as much as Phil does.
I agree. ACDC songs are pretty easy and straight forward on all of the instruments. The parts aren't very difficult. However...it is difficult to play them and make your performance sound like ACDC. It proves that there is more to an instrument than just just notes. Feel is a very real thing. Another band that is a really good example of this is the Ramones. Their songs are even more simple..especially Johnny Ramone's guitar 'parts'. Downstroke major bar chords with a rest on the 2. But making your playing sound like his is a lot harder than it seems.
Anybody who knows what they are talking about truly appreciates Phil's swing, even if they don't enjoy AC/DC's music... They understand his importance.
I noticed that a long time ago and thankfully I have incorporated it in my playing - not just AC/DC stuff but other material as well. Phil Rudd is a much better drummer than he gets credit for though I think that's changing now. He really is a groove master.
Thank you! I thought my old age had finally claimed my sanity. I can't say as I've put either of them "under a microscope" so, I thought I could've been wrong.
Phil Rudd: 1974-1983 Simon Wright: 1983-1989 Chris Slade: 1989-1994, 2015-2019 Phil Rudd again: 1994-2015, 2019-present All of them brought a great backbeat to the band and had a similar style.
@@meanmetalmike666 Yeah I didn't mention the short-lived earlier drummers. And Wikipedia said '74 for Phil but I stand corrected. I consider those three to be the main drummers they've had in my mind anyways.
Simon Wright sounded pretty good on Who Made Who. Slade sounded great on the whole Razor's edge album, especially on tracks like Shot of Love. Rudd IS the sound of the band.
I love Phil, I don’t think people realize that you can do a simple beat and it will make a difference. Yes, someone like Danny Carey is cool or should I say (tool) But Phil really drives every song home with a nice and easy beat everytine
Yes! I give Carey or Portney or the Professor all the respect they deserve (and they deserve it all!!!) but they can't grap me like Phil does. Or Lars and Tommy Lee in their heydays, Steven Adler, Eric Carr, David Silveria etc its in the groove
@jordisen I love when drummers are in the groove, like the song Black Dog by Led Zepppelin Bonzo could easily let loose but he decides to sit back and groove and I love it
I recall seeing AC/DC on the Highway to Hell tour in around '79 and being blown away by Phil's playing on tracks like Riff Raff and Bad Boy Boogie where he just drives it along at an incredible pace for the entire track. A hell of a player.
Most underestimate how hard it is to play simply yet put passion or groove into it. I'm a guitar player by trade, and the most important thing in AC/DC tunes is the space between the chords/notes. It's deceptively difficult and even more for those who write them off as easy. There's a psychological aspect to how it's delivered, the intent behind the notes, that's every bit as important as the notes themselves
Yep, you certainly know what you're talking about! The space between the chords. 100%. People don't get the psychology of this band; they think they're just a hard rock band, but it was always the little things that mattered to them; the genius, intricate details behind the scenes, especially from Mal Young who was a perfectionist.
I don't see any satisfactory comments at a brief glance, so I'm just gonna say "AC/DC sucks balls" and get out of here before I have to hear any more tips on how to drum in a way that sounds like shit
Grew up on Phil's playing in the late 70s and early 80s, cut my drumming teeth on Highway to Hell and Back in Black albums. The greatest thing about Phil (and almost every other great drummer, but someone like Kenny Aronoff comes to mind), is that even playing 'straight 8ths' rock, you can *feel* the swing. No disrespect to Chris Slade, who's a fantastic drummer, but he just doesn't have the same feel, particularly on the hats, that Phil does. It's like Ringo, many can attempt to copy, but no one else was more perfect for their respective bands than Ringo and Phil.. Oh maybe throw in Mick Fleetwood too on that one..
It’s about time someone gave Phil the respect he deserves! Yeah, Chris Slade thunderstruck, blah blah blah “hey, guess what you made a mistake”. who cares? Great video on one of the most underrated drummers in Rock N Roll. Before every single show I play. I jam AC/DC loud! Usually start with “Rosie”, go to “Sin City”, then some “Beatin Around The Bush” maybe even get Beavis and Butthead nostalgic and listen to some “Gone Shootin”. Great job sir!
Another thing to mention is the Crash patterns. It’s important to pay attention to how Phil changes the crash patterns in the songs. The best way to describe it that it’s not consistently on every snare hit, sometimes it’s on every other snare hit and then it swaps over. For Those About to Rock and Shoot To Thrill are great examples of this, check out my latest cover of FTATR and watch the end bit to see the crash patterns visualised and notice how important they are to master when you’re covering, that’s not a plug, it’s genuinely the best way to visualise it because Phil does different crash patterns in the live versions!
The technique Phil uses on thunderstruck is called a push pull. The count is 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & On 1 you push the stick down into edge of the hats. On & you pull the tip down onto the the body of the hats. As someone once told me, Phil drives the groove with his left hand and right foot all while breathing life into it with his right hand.
Big difference in feel between Chris Slade and Phil Rudd. I love both guys but Slade is extremely, almost mechanically precise and on top of the beat. I love the way this comes across on “AC/DC Live,” the energy is incredible and Slade is really driving the band. Phil Rudd is always just a shade behind the beat, which locks in with the guitars and makes the whole outfit groove like an MF. The second half of the chorus of “Back In Black” is my favorite example of this; Phil’s playing makes that riff sound so incredibly heavy.
Exactly mate. That’s the real secret. Phil is a shade behind the snare beat, but only with the snare. The base drum is on the 1000s second on spot. Unfortunately this gift of god is not learnable 😢
I am also in an AC/DC Tribute band. Good stuff here. I would also add that ac/dc always puts hits/stops and other weird stuff in their songs that aren't hard to play, but must be memorized and nailed perfectly or it sounds like crap. Like the middle of the Hells Bells guitar solo, or the end of Giving the Dog a Bone, or the triplet hits in walk all over you or Whole Lotta Rosie. Phil also does 4 on the floor w the bass drum at times, and it sounds fat! Let there be Rock is a good example of that. Clearly I can talk about this all day, and I enjoyed your lesson, thanks!
The discipline and focus it takes to successfully play an AC/DC gig IS a level that everybody thinks they can achieve without even blinking. Truth is..... a huge majority of us will fail miserably!!!! This music played at the highest level a brilliant art form. My friends/ get smart and stop rolling your eyes- you are missing out!!!
Totally agree Steve. I played in one of the first AC/DC tribute bands in the uk many years ago and the devil is certainly in the details. There's much more to getting that Phil Rudd groove on than meets the eye. Soooo much fun to do though Get it right and the whole room will be unable to stand still. Great band
@@davematthews414 _then you get it Dave- !!!!! It’s a really really hard gig to nail!!! Phil Rudd is at highest level of “ playing what the gig calls for”.... and the band’s success ends the argument. Another one in this category- Tico Torres- from Bon Jovi- did he ever fill???? Hardly and the music just blazes - absolutely my heroes- and I grew up a jazz snob so I know all about the eye rolling...!!!!!! Ha! True!!!!
@@stevebarnes9345 Thanks Steve! You are right. I hadn’t thought much about Bon Jovi but your observations resonate with me totally. Another drummer who is a perfect groove machine is Frank Beard of ZZ top (the main reason for their success IMHO)
@@jeremyhughes6485 exactly- Jeremy!!!! ZZTOP.. I totally agree-.perfect example/ relentless groove - pocket and Patience!!! It’s an art form- the difficulty of consistency is where their brilliance shines!
I grew-up playing a lot of AC/DC in the 90s and I notice that it doesn't 'feel' like a straight 4/4, there's almost like this swing or drag/delay hop to it. It's hard to describe but it's a certain feel.
That was an e excellent way to describe how to play the drums to AC/DC music. The first time I ever saw them was in 1977 with Bon Scott and the others, they had a completely different tempo back then. Also good of you to note the huge difference between Phil and Chris Slade.
My first drum set around 1984 was a Sonor Phonic 7 pc set with Oak Veneer and the huge power size toms. I always rode my bike went to this music drum store about 7 miles away in Garland,Texas and just wished I had that same looking AC/ DC set. At the time it was selling for about $4000 and they had it in the studio looking showroom. Well for my 16th birthday, I finally got my wish for a drum set and my mom took me to the same store to pick out a set. I think my budget was around 1000-2000 so I was looking around to see what was available. Saw a nice silver many toms set but it was a off no name brand had my attention but lo n behold that same Sonor set was out of the studio just sitting stacked up and not set up anymore. I asked salesman, how much is it? He said $1500, I said SOLD. He said the line was discontinued so that's why it was half their original price earlier in the year. Those drums are the loudest and physically heaviest set I've experienced. I don't have them anymore,a big regret. Oh well Oh also added Paiste 505 cymbals crash, ride and hats for $500 back then. Fun days growing up
In fact, Phil Rud does not use ANY ride cymbal, see his setup at the Paiste website. Surprising for me: he uses a 14x5.5 steel snare, rather shallow for this kind of music.
@@marting.3771 i hope so 😉 for more about Phil's gear check out the german Wikipedia - i listed up all i know. Btw: he used a ride in the 70s in studio and also during some tours (i think ballbreaker and/or stiff upper lip)
Mate !!! You are absolutely right with what you are saying but for gods sake you forgot or did not realise the most important part. Phil is one of the few blessed drummers on earth who actually can play the snare drum, just a shade after the real time. In other words, he drags it like a blues player. It might only be 100th of a second or even less, but if you listen really carefully, for example to back in Black, you can make it out 🎉 Maybe you want to point out this feature in one of your future videos
Awesome video Thanks man! Back in the day, way back,, in NYC when they played the Palladium and CBGBs, I talked to Phil and Malcom. Then later on late 80's or early 90's, meet up with Phil when he was doing clinics. Talked about the up and downs with AC DC at the time, but one thing he said was that ACDC didnt want to hear any large fill at all! just keep it simple!
One of my favorite Drumeo videos so far. Sometimes I forget how much I actually like AC/DC, they tend to fall to the back burner of my mind for some reason, but this reminded me how due I am for a good classic rock playlist while I’m working. Great stuff dude! 👍🤘❤️🥁
it's the swing. swung eights on hi hats, according to mal. thats why they like rudd over everone else, plus being tight and their history. sumg on hihats, straight on bass. rhythmic tension.
Phil’s hi hats on the verses of highway to hell are so great. He is subtly semi-opening and closing his hats at certain points. It’s nothing technical, just adds a little texture, and coupled with his behind the beat backbeat…it’s a small thing that elevates the song just a little. I love subtle touches like that.
In my opinion Rudd plays slightly behind the beat and has such a unique fat feel that isn't easy to replicate. Reminds me of Steven Adler's playing, but with less swing.
been following you guys for a few years now.... love your love for drums. and the fact that you put in the stuff you love, not just the tech is fantastic.... also putting most of your stuff on a "free" platform like youtube just shows that it is follow the dream not the dollar... I am a teacher in Central Europe and would love to contribute... I subscribe and ring the bell, would love to support you more..
3 years later i will add. A very important overlooked aspect to acdc best drum sounds is mutt Lange's production, he captured an amazing drum sound on those 3 acdc albums that he produced.
@@greatdelusion7654 I gotcha dude. What he means is instead of only hitting the snare drum on the 2 and the 4; you instead need to play the bass drum and the snare drum together simultaneously on the 2 and the 4. It's not AC/DC, but a great example of this beat is "Gimme all your lovin' " by ZZ Top. Hit only the bass drum on 1 and 3 and hit the snare and bass together on 2 and 4. Play it like a 4/4 beat but hit the bass and snare together at the same time when you are on the 2 and 4 (the snare part). Sometimes it adds a little bit more of a punch to a rhythm when both the bass drum and snare are hit together. Phil Rudd doesn't really do it that often. Mostly on the early stuff. Listen to "Ain't no fun waitin' around to be a millionaire" from "Dirty deeds done dirt cheap." The album "Powerage" is where he does it the most. 3 songs to hear it on that album are "Sin City", "Up to my neck in you" and "Gimme a bullet." "Panama" by Van Halen is one more example off the top of my head. I hope I've explained it well enough, but once you hear it you'll understand. The ZZ Top song is pretty easy to start with. I would try that first. Have fun! 😃
Great little video,absolutely love Acca Dacca and Phil is just a machine 🤘 So how about letting people know the tuning of Snare,Toms etc,because that’s a big part of Phil’ drum sound! And there’s not a lot of info out there on tuning drums for playing Dc! Might help people get closer to that sound 🤘
There’s a “live” version of Jailbreak (not actually live as it’s got the Album Audio) however during the chorus Phil is playing the ride cymbal, it’s the only time I’ve ever heard the ride being used for jailbreak.
Thanks alot drumeo I have been playing acdc since I started but always thought there was something missing now I know what to in corporate in my drumming next time I play acdc
If u wanna play like phil your hi hat stand has to be at about 11 aclock by your snare he plays with his hi hat a bit infront of his snare not in front to much but around 11 aclock
Phil Rudd, the master of minimalism. The notes he’s playing are easy but it’s not what you play it’s how you play it. Nobody will ever have a rock groove as good as Phil
Not all that he plays is easy! Try playing Let there be Rock the same way he plays it. 1/8 notes on the high hat and never stopping bass drum for the whole almost 7 minutes.
Phil Rudd. The man. As in THE man
The irony about AC/DC is that they are a band that are very easy to imitate, but they are impossible to replicate. Another sidenote: Thunderstruck was played originally by Chris Slade, not Phil Rudd. Chris doesn’t accent the hi hat nearly as much as Phil does.
ditto ZZTop...
I agree. ACDC songs are pretty easy and straight forward on all of the instruments. The parts aren't very difficult. However...it is difficult to play them and make your performance sound like ACDC. It proves that there is more to an instrument than just just notes. Feel is a very real thing. Another band that is a really good example of this is the Ramones. Their songs are even more simple..especially Johnny Ramone's guitar 'parts'. Downstroke major bar chords with a rest on the 2. But making your playing sound like his is a lot harder than it seems.
Anybody who knows what they are talking about truly appreciates Phil's swing, even if they don't enjoy
AC/DC's music... They understand his importance.
He wasn't laying the snare behind the beat far enough back quite when playing with the tracks.
"If you're gonna play a mistake, play a loud mistake" I see you've heard me play.
Whoever did the editing on this video deserves a raise!
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Some good laughs heheh!
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Most of the songs Phil leaves the hi hat somewhere in between open and closed. This is the biggest thing drummers don't get right.
I noticed that a long time ago and thankfully I have incorporated it in my playing - not just AC/DC stuff but other material as well. Phil Rudd is a much better drummer than he gets credit for though I think that's changing now. He really is a groove master.
How do you do it, I mean like how much is good for the groove?
And in some intros he closes the hihat with his foot AND his left hand.
YES. And it's such a simple thing that everyone hears and can do and still noone does it. Why? It's so easy!
It also sounds like he hits the hi hat a bit harder on the beat.
As few fills as possible.
It's Chris Slade on Thunderstruck, not Phill Rudd
Thank you! I thought my old age had finally claimed my sanity. I can't say as I've put either of them "under a microscope" so, I thought I could've been wrong.
Zackley
Yea... that slight misstake annoyed me too... deeply... to my core... I am old and need chill
I always liked Slade better than Rudd and find it funny that when they are talking about the parts being interesting they are talking about Slade.
@@lalalol36 so true, but personnally, I prefer Rudd
At 7 years old I got a 5 piece pearl drum kit and taught myself so much with just a couple AC/DC cds.
Right on!
AC/DC cds - try saying that 10 times quickly.
@@kanesanders6669 that that that that that that that that that that
Have a cigarette in your mouth at all times
😂
Sometimes I get a straw and pretend it is a cigarette, and to be honest, I don’t blame Phil. It feels badass.
😅
And gotta have playboy magazines around you while playing
AC. DC IS PUB BANDA PHIL ONLY NEEDS 2 PIECE KIT 🥰 OR IN MELBOURNE 3 PIECE 😀
Phil Rudd: 1974-1983
Simon Wright: 1983-1989
Chris Slade: 1989-1994, 2015-2019
Phil Rudd again: 1994-2015, 2019-present
All of them brought a great backbeat to the band and had a similar style.
@@meanmetalmike666 Yeah I didn't mention the short-lived earlier drummers. And Wikipedia said '74 for Phil but I stand corrected. I consider those three to be the main drummers they've had in my mind anyways.
Simon Wright sounded pretty good on Who Made Who. Slade sounded great on the whole Razor's edge album, especially on tracks like Shot of Love. Rudd IS the sound of the band.
Yes, I realize it was Chris Slade who played on Thunderstruck and Moneytalks :)
I love Phil, I don’t think people realize that you can do a simple beat and it will make a difference.
Yes, someone like Danny Carey is cool or should I say (tool)
But Phil really drives every song home with a nice and easy beat everytine
So true!
Yes! I give Carey or Portney or the Professor all the respect they deserve (and they deserve it all!!!) but they can't grap me like Phil does. Or Lars and Tommy Lee in their heydays, Steven Adler, Eric Carr, David Silveria etc
its in the groove
@jordisen
I love when drummers are in the groove, like the song Black Dog by Led Zepppelin
Bonzo could easily let loose but he decides to sit back and groove and I love it
@Edgar Landa Yes
I recall seeing AC/DC on the Highway to Hell tour in around '79 and being blown away by Phil's playing on tracks like Riff Raff and Bad Boy Boogie where he just drives it along at an incredible pace for the entire track. A hell of a player.
Most underestimate how hard it is to play simply yet put passion or groove into it. I'm a guitar player by trade, and the most important thing in AC/DC tunes is the space between the chords/notes. It's deceptively difficult and even more for those who write them off as easy. There's a psychological aspect to how it's delivered, the intent behind the notes, that's every bit as important as the notes themselves
Yep, you certainly know what you're talking about! The space between the chords. 100%. People don't get the psychology of this band; they think they're just a hard rock band, but it was always the little things that mattered to them; the genius, intricate details behind the scenes, especially from Mal Young who was a perfectionist.
Literally clicked on this for the comments LOL
Hundred percent
Yep
Same
Same
I don't see any satisfactory comments at a brief glance, so I'm just gonna say "AC/DC sucks balls" and get out of here before I have to hear any more tips on how to drum in a way that sounds like shit
hiding the puma name and leaving the cat on the shirt made it better for some odd reason.
That's some passive aggressive shit right there. And I love it.
There's no reason they can't show the logo, idk why they taped it up
@@esoteridactyl fuck knows. Weirrrd man!
You saved me some scroll time. “I’m not paid to promote Puma, so screw them”.
How about a blank shirt instead of polluting the environment with duct tape
Grew up on Phil's playing in the late 70s and early 80s, cut my drumming teeth on Highway to Hell and Back in Black albums. The greatest thing about Phil (and almost every other great drummer, but someone like Kenny Aronoff comes to mind), is that even playing 'straight 8ths' rock, you can *feel* the swing. No disrespect to Chris Slade, who's a fantastic drummer, but he just doesn't have the same feel, particularly on the hats, that Phil does. It's like Ringo, many can attempt to copy, but no one else was more perfect for their respective bands than Ringo and Phil.. Oh maybe throw in Mick Fleetwood too on that one..
@Bad Boys Boogie Agree on both 👍
Phil names Ringo as his favourite drummer. Both often criticised for technical proficiency but integral to the sound of their great bands.
Throw in Stewart Copeland and Clem Burke (Blondie)
It’s about time someone gave Phil the respect he deserves! Yeah, Chris Slade thunderstruck, blah blah blah “hey, guess what you made a mistake”. who cares? Great video on one of the most underrated drummers in Rock N Roll. Before every single show I play. I jam AC/DC loud! Usually start with “Rosie”, go to “Sin City”, then some “Beatin Around The Bush” maybe even get Beavis and Butthead nostalgic and listen to some “Gone Shootin”. Great job sir!
You really nailed it, sir. Probably a no-brainer, but getting the right tempo for each song can make or break it.
Spot on Paul!
Another thing to mention is the Crash patterns. It’s important to pay attention to how Phil changes the crash patterns in the songs. The best way to describe it that it’s not consistently on every snare hit, sometimes it’s on every other snare hit and then it swaps over. For Those About to Rock and Shoot To Thrill are great examples of this, check out my latest cover of FTATR and watch the end bit to see the crash patterns visualised and notice how important they are to master when you’re covering, that’s not a plug, it’s genuinely the best way to visualise it because Phil does different crash patterns in the live versions!
Dave has so much charisma, love his videos.
He's my favorite drumeo teacher.
The technique Phil uses on thunderstruck is called a push pull.
The count is 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
On 1 you push the stick down into edge of the hats. On & you pull the tip down onto the the body of the hats.
As someone once told me, Phil drives the groove with his left hand and right foot all while breathing life into it with his right hand.
It’s known as “accenting” 8th notes
It's Chris Slade on Thunderstruck, not Phil Rudd.
Chris slade on thunderstruck !
So called specialist 😂
Thank you professor for your insight on Phil’s contribution to a song he didn’t even play on.
'How to sound like Phil Rudd'....examples are thunderstruck and moneytalks. Yeah. A true fan there.
Big difference in feel between Chris Slade and Phil Rudd. I love both guys but Slade is extremely, almost mechanically precise and on top of the beat. I love the way this comes across on “AC/DC Live,” the energy is incredible and Slade is really driving the band.
Phil Rudd is always just a shade behind the beat, which locks in with the guitars and makes the whole outfit groove like an MF. The second half of the chorus of “Back In Black” is my favorite example of this; Phil’s playing makes that riff sound so incredibly heavy.
Exactly mate. That’s the real secret. Phil is a shade behind the snare beat, but only with the snare. The base drum is on the 1000s second on spot. Unfortunately this gift of god is not learnable 😢
This is the 'swing' that Malcolm always talked about.
I am also in an AC/DC Tribute band. Good stuff here. I would also add that ac/dc always puts hits/stops and other weird stuff in their songs that aren't hard to play, but must be memorized and nailed perfectly or it sounds like crap. Like the middle of the Hells Bells guitar solo, or the end of Giving the Dog a Bone, or the triplet hits in walk all over you or Whole Lotta Rosie. Phil also does 4 on the floor w the bass drum at times, and it sounds fat! Let there be Rock is a good example of that. Clearly I can talk about this all day, and I enjoyed your lesson, thanks!
The discipline and focus it takes to successfully play an AC/DC gig IS
a level that everybody thinks they can achieve without even blinking. Truth is..... a huge majority of us will fail miserably!!!! This music played at the highest level a brilliant art form. My friends/ get smart and stop rolling your eyes- you are missing out!!!
So true!
Totally agree Steve. I played in one of the first AC/DC tribute bands in the uk many years ago and the devil is certainly in the details. There's much more to getting that Phil Rudd groove on than meets the eye. Soooo much fun to do though Get it right and the whole room will be unable to stand still. Great band
@@davematthews414 _then you get it Dave- !!!!! It’s a really really hard gig to nail!!! Phil Rudd is at highest level of “ playing what the gig calls for”.... and the band’s success ends the argument. Another one in this category- Tico Torres- from Bon Jovi- did he ever fill???? Hardly and the music just blazes - absolutely my heroes- and I grew up a jazz snob so I know all about the eye rolling...!!!!!! Ha! True!!!!
@@stevebarnes9345 Thanks Steve! You are right. I hadn’t thought much about Bon Jovi but your observations resonate with me totally. Another drummer who is a perfect groove machine is Frank Beard of ZZ top (the main reason for their success IMHO)
@@jeremyhughes6485 exactly- Jeremy!!!! ZZTOP.. I totally agree-.perfect example/ relentless groove - pocket and Patience!!! It’s an art form- the difficulty of consistency is where their brilliance shines!
Thank you! The intro to Shoot to Thrill is such a satisfying fill
Dear Drumeo, I like this format. I'd love you to make a video of or with Christoph Schneider of RAMMSTEIN. That would be absolutely awesome!
Cheers, and noted!
@@DrumeoOfficial awesome! That is very much appreciated! Love from Germany to you guys and gals, cheers!
@@DrumeoOfficial that needs to happen👀
great idea!!
Christoph has got a lot in common with Rudd!
This is a REALLY good idea!
Awesome tips....thks
I grew-up playing a lot of AC/DC in the 90s and I notice that it doesn't 'feel' like a straight 4/4, there's almost like this swing or drag/delay hop to it. It's hard to describe but it's a certain feel.
Totally. Phil has some swag when he plays
As Malcolm said "it's the jungle of it all"
That was an e excellent way to describe how to play the drums to AC/DC music. The first time I ever saw them was in 1977 with Bon Scott and the others, they had a completely different tempo back then. Also good of you to note the huge difference between Phil and Chris Slade.
Absolutely THE best ac/da back in black lesson on you tube!
... and Simon Wright, those drums on Heatseeker are the bomb!! 🤘🤘
Dude is never mentioned,hell of a drummer
I was thinking about the hats and then, boooom. Absolutely precise tutorial, thank you so much.
#1 thing I learned from this video
Dave has impeccable taste in TV shows.
My first drum set around 1984 was a Sonor Phonic 7 pc set with Oak Veneer and the huge power size toms. I always rode my bike went to this music drum store about 7 miles away in Garland,Texas and just wished I had that same looking AC/ DC set. At the time it was selling for about $4000 and they had it in the studio looking showroom. Well for my 16th birthday, I finally got my wish for a drum set and my mom took me to the same store to pick out a set. I think my budget was around 1000-2000 so I was looking around to see what was available. Saw a nice silver many toms set but it was a off no name brand had my attention but lo n behold that same Sonor set was out of the studio just sitting stacked up and not set up anymore. I asked salesman, how much is it? He said $1500, I said SOLD.
He said the line was discontinued so that's why it was half their original price earlier in the year.
Those drums are the loudest and physically heaviest set I've experienced.
I don't have them anymore,a big regret. Oh well
Oh also added Paiste 505 cymbals crash, ride and hats for $500 back then.
Fun days growing up
New to drumming and this was one of the best learning videos I have watched. Nice job!
In fact, Phil Rud does not use ANY ride cymbal, see his setup at the Paiste website. Surprising for me: he uses a 14x5.5 steel snare, rather shallow for this kind of music.
Mhhhm... No. He uses a 14x5 brass snare
@@manuelpreininger You are right!
@@marting.3771 i hope so 😉 for more about Phil's gear check out the german Wikipedia - i listed up all i know. Btw: he used a ride in the 70s in studio and also during some tours (i think ballbreaker and/or stiff upper lip)
I believe that he used ride on "Ain't No Fun (Waiting Round To Be a Millionaire)" and "Ride On" and that was the last of it. :)
Phil Rudd is the real sound of AC/DC
Is so underrated.
I didn't notice the PUMA sweatshirt until I noticed the tape over the logo....
You showed me a lot. I sound good a little now. Thank you. I'm a beginner drummer.
“For those about to rock” is an amazingly well constructed drum part. Super hard to learn
Mate !!! You are absolutely right with what you are saying but for gods sake you forgot or did not realise the most important part.
Phil is one of the few blessed drummers on earth who actually can play the snare drum, just a shade after the real time. In other words, he drags it like a blues player. It might only be 100th of a second or even less, but if you listen really carefully, for example to back in Black, you can make it out
🎉
Maybe you want to point out this feature in one of your future videos
Didn’t Chris Slade play on Thunder Struck?
Indeed 🤘
Awesome video Thanks man! Back in the day, way back,, in NYC when they played the Palladium and CBGBs, I talked to Phil and Malcom. Then later on late 80's or early 90's, meet up with Phil when he was doing clinics. Talked about the up and downs with AC DC at the time, but one thing he said was that ACDC didnt want to hear any large fill at all! just keep it simple!
Wow!! I would love being there.Did the Dictators open for them back then?
yes and back then ACDC open up for Nugget at he garden, after ACDC Nugget got boo'd a little but great experience over all@@bukkaker66
Two more important points: keep the tempo, because the songs will collapse if they are too fast. Second: play 4 on the floor when needed.
One of my favorite Drumeo videos so far. Sometimes I forget how much I actually like AC/DC, they tend to fall to the back burner of my mind for some reason, but this reminded me how due I am for a good classic rock playlist while I’m working. Great stuff dude! 👍🤘❤️🥁
9:08 that was said by Todd Sucherman too!!!
Gaffer tape on the Puma shirt, forgot to cover the sleeve. LOL.
Cool vid.
It’s all about the swagger with Phil.
"Don't just rock eighth notes on the hi hat consistently like you do on other songs..." also don't do that on other songs actually
Haha that's me! 🤣 I need to practice more
"is it really a requirement or not".... :)) i think 8th notes are the standard for these kind of songs :) maybe? =)
it's the swing. swung eights on hi hats, according to mal. thats why they like rudd over everone else, plus being tight and their history. sumg on hihats, straight on bass. rhythmic tension.
Thunderstruck drums were Chris Slade. He lent a good vibe for that entire album.
Good video, well produced, presented and useful, wasnt Thunderstruck Chris Slade?
Phil’s hi hats on the verses of highway to hell are so great. He is subtly semi-opening and closing his hats at certain points. It’s nothing technical, just adds a little texture, and coupled with his behind the beat backbeat…it’s a small thing that elevates the song just a little. I love subtle touches like that.
he's not always behind the beat
Chris Slade is playing drums on Thunderstruck. Also, check ACDC's Fire your guns - very interesting use of hi-hat.
I don't even play drums but I could listen to him and his drums for hours.
In my opinion Rudd plays slightly behind the beat and has such a unique fat feel that isn't easy to replicate. Reminds me of Steven Adler's playing, but with less swing.
been following you guys for a few years now.... love your love for drums. and the fact that you put in the stuff you love, not just the tech is fantastic.... also putting most of your stuff on a "free" platform like youtube just shows that it is follow the dream not the dollar... I am a teacher in Central Europe and would love to contribute... I subscribe and ring the bell, would love to support you more..
Great stuff, lol at the gaffer tape blocking shirt logo.
Great tips. I especially love the cannon track lol, now I need to add that to my repertoire lol.
Thanks look forward to next video.
3 years later i will add. A very important overlooked aspect to acdc best drum sounds is mutt Lange's production, he captured an amazing drum sound on those 3 acdc albums that he produced.
Man, the constant TV references really drive his points about drumming home. Without them I may have become distracted enough to take him seriously.
Great tips Dave love acdc
great lesson Mike
The drums are so easy that it’s hard for most people to be that simple.
No mention of Simon Wright?
No Bull concert is something out of this world. Phil sounds like a cannon
You ROCK Dave! Thank you! 🤘😁
Also what sets Phil apart is he plays through with the bass drum plays a lot with snare and bass drum together I think some people miss
Yea this. Drives the song
What do you mean? Can you give me an example?
@@greatdelusion7654 I gotcha dude. What he means is instead of only hitting the snare drum on the 2 and the 4; you instead need to play the bass drum and the snare drum together simultaneously on the 2 and the 4. It's not AC/DC, but a great example of this beat is "Gimme all your lovin' " by ZZ Top. Hit only the bass drum on 1 and 3 and hit the snare and bass together on 2 and 4. Play it like a 4/4 beat but hit the bass and snare together at the same time when you are on the 2 and 4 (the snare part). Sometimes it adds a little bit more of a punch to a rhythm when both the bass drum and snare are hit together. Phil Rudd doesn't really do it that often. Mostly on the early stuff. Listen to "Ain't no fun waitin' around to be a millionaire" from "Dirty deeds done dirt cheap." The album "Powerage" is where he does it the most. 3 songs to hear it on that album are "Sin City", "Up to my neck in you" and "Gimme a bullet." "Panama" by Van Halen is one more example off the top of my head. I hope I've explained it well enough, but once you hear it you'll understand. The ZZ Top song is pretty easy to start with. I would try that first. Have fun! 😃
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Thanks man, I appreciate the explanation!
@@greatdelusion7654 No problem.
Great video! Thank you very much!!!
Love the Paiste Cymbals
Excellent lesson! BTW Chris Slade played drums on Razor's Edge Album ( IE: Thunderstruck) Cheers!
You were nerdy cool before--now you're heavy cool. Respects!
Absolutely brilliant
Cheers!
Great little video,absolutely love Acca Dacca and Phil is just a machine 🤘 So how about letting people know the tuning of Snare,Toms etc,because that’s a big part of Phil’ drum sound! And there’s not a lot of info out there on tuning drums for playing Dc! Might help people get closer to that sound 🤘
I find he uses the upbeat on his hi-hats too ... Its subtle but really helps propel the grooves.
Really helpful video 😁.
Glad to hear it!
Same can barely listen to the original version of whole lotta rosie anymore, I always miss the audience screaming "Angus" between the riffs
Like the sad bastards they are.
Great advice mate
We salute you drumeo
Awesome video!!
Was great!!! Thank you!
There’s a “live” version of Jailbreak (not actually live as it’s got the Album Audio) however during the chorus Phil is playing the ride cymbal, it’s the only time I’ve ever heard the ride being used for jailbreak.
Chris Slade...Rocks🤘😉
WOW... 32 years ago I had a 8pc Pearl Export series that exact same color. My God how I do miss my drum set🙁
Is there a video on how to read the musical notes and how they relate to the drum set ?
Thanks alot drumeo I have been playing acdc since I started but always thought there was something missing now I know what to in corporate in my drumming next time I play acdc
Cool, my fave rock band when I was in high school early 80's
Great job!
Chris Slade on Razor's Edge!
Again great job!
Why you don't use 2002 classic red cymbals?
Greatly appreciate your Lessons
Great lesson. Thank you. 🥁
This is so great! Thanks Dave!
Great video thanks 👍🥁🥁🥁
If u wanna play like phil your hi hat stand has to be at about 11 aclock by your snare he plays with his hi hat a bit infront of his snare not in front to much but around 11 aclock
Try one video with Steven Adler. It's a really hard mojo to get!
Yeah, almost everyone GNR drumcovers are played wrong
Chris Slade plays Thunderstruck. There is no substitute for Sonor drums. My go to in Europe.
The shots with the punches and slaps are really funny
Awesome! We love this 🤘🏿🤘🏿