@@USA-ly1uy well there's no verdict or plea that says "not guilty by reason of coming of drugs". The reason is still because he was temporarily insane during the commission of the crime.
He was on drugs. He might have suffered a psychotic break but it's because of substance use. Too bad the neighbor didn't own a gun because everyone else might have been alive still. Austin should have been put down like a rabid dog. Now he'll eventually be released and he'll probably snap again. Charge him with murder and lock him up for good.
@@USA-ly1uy he was at dinner with his folks an hour before the attack. he went outside halfway through and didn't come back to the table. he wasn't wasted. he was going through some hardcore psychological breakdown.
He had no drugs in his system during the attack even if your were pretending to be insane you wouldn’t be able to handle a taser multiple dog attacks and full force kicks to the face he was pure insane and the blame should go to his family and close circle for not doing something sooner
Yeah exactly! I'm back here because of the Leticia Stauch case where she actually is pretending to be insane to escape justice. 😂And for the people online who I came across who believed her I just kept directing them to this case specifically. I truly believe Austin wasn't sane. I truly believe his parents should be the ones facing trial. They failed their son. They were afraid of him for the entire summer yet didn't bother to call 911? Disgusting. I am truly horrified by his parents actions.
I don't think you're being considerate to the family. These things are so rare you, I, and everyone would never expect them. All they thought was that he needed help, their son, and they were getting it. There are tons who wouldn't even take that step. As far as him being insane, it's only obvious. Thrill killers avoid capture. For one out of the so many obvious things.
He ate a mans face A dog bit his arm twice unfazed He was tazed He drank cleaning chemicals and a bottle of Oil He said he saw slenderman . This is not his fault his brain malfunctioned, and he wasnt diagnosed early enough.
@Darkhorse the "Dahmer cannibalism" is so overblown, he did that with maybe 2 victims and it was after his 9th murder. He was too far gone to be rehabilitated, he fell into a deep hole and was addicted by sexual and emotional pleasure. Dahmer was not evil, he did horrible evil acts but he wanted to know why he was so mentally unhinged and why he committed such vicous crimes. This kid was not evil either, he was legally insane. You need to get over it and look into forgiveness, hatred is not the answer
@@LadyGodiva7460 Dahmer didn’t snap, he premeditated murder😂 he knew exactly what he was doing, no comparison. This dude thought he was a dog, lost his damn mind, something snapped in his brain.
Naw this stuff is crazy, treating 19 year olds like toddlers. "But your honor our poor little angel was crazy! You couldn't possibly charge him with anything!" 🤡
except he bragged about taking a ton of drugs. you don't need drugs in your system for them to have everlasting effects that can spawn at a later time. it's pretty obvious that drugs induced his psychosis even though he was sober at the time.
Dude he was totally normal before the drugs. He has a predisposition to schizophrenia and he likely was in a state of psychosis which is generally what the documents by that renowned psychologist said. The drugs induced it but it lasted so long because once he realized it was already too late. He couldn’t sleep and continued to not sleep. If you see the pictures of him before and after he clearly was not sleeping for weeks. He lost a ton of weight and looks like he was dying. Particularly the hollows around his eyes. Psychosis is rly scary because it takes one extra night of no sleep for any average person, you may not think the fourth night or whatever one you’d be on could do it but it varies. You don’t know when you’re in it until you’re doing something crazy
People who think this judgement is better than prison? These are very dark places these ppl have to live in. And for a person who is no longer insane, it's even worse. It'll take years - even decades - to prove he is no longer a threat. He's not going free anytime soon
Someone that has dealt with drugs and would prob get bk involved and are someone's face, but ok to stand trial can not be trusted in society. The Hospital will tell the tale of how his mental state will be without the drugs and drinking chemicals that prob removed some of them
He can't be trusted to be out, he was crazy and it's a shame the neighbor didn't have a gun. Austin is a sick individual and it's a travesty he won't be locked up for good. What he did was absolutely disgusting. Plus he STILL thinks he was "possessed" showing he still isn't mentally ok.
I was completely healthy mentally. Untill I was stuck in a 6 year extreme traumatic situation. After that I was diagnosed with severe Burn out, Complicated PTSD, Sever unipolar and bipolar depression. I found most people don't understand mental health, because its not a broken arm or cut over your face. It is something you cant see with your eyes. I have a totally new respect for mental health, disabled people est. Mental health is a lonely road. If you have friends and family that support you in make a world of different. I can just imagine the pain, anger and grief of the victims family. It sounds like your parents were great people. The neighbours sir...your a hero for trying to help. This is not easy. But for parents who ignoring mental health issues is un acceptable. Even if you don't understand it, get help.
The parents neglected the signs but at the same time were in denial because they didn’t understand. They were just hoping it would get better. People can say all day what to do with your kids but denial is a crazy thing. Ignorance is a crazy thing. No one ever thinks it can happen to them. No one ever dreams this would be the outcome regardless of mental illness. It’s so extremely rare to get this this place so why would they have thought any different. This kid is one of the rare cases of 100% mental illness. Forgiveness will still be so hard and my heart hurts for the victims. This is a hard one especially when you understand mental illness. What a terrible outcome for all the families.
Doesn’t excuse what he did but what the hell? How do you not call the psych ward after ur kid MOVES HIS BED TO THE GARAGE BC “they’re are demons all over this house”
Ok and I know the victims are feeling bad or whatever but dude stop blaming the guy!! Blame the parents!! What happened happened but that guy ain’t a typical murderer. You can’t say all that to him. That shoe doesn’t fit. He was totally normal until he got into the drugs and nobody helped him! So stop treating him like he’ll offend again.
Absolutely I would too but as someone who wasn’t affected and can look at this neutrally I feel bad for Austin too. I couldn’t imagine losing control of you’re mind and finding out you did that to people.
I’m super angry at his family and friends. It’s one thing to not notice depression signs because it’s very complicated. But you can immediately tell someone is in some sort of psychosis just from: 1. Consistently claiming about fighting demons and you actively see them going on ‘Patrol’ to fight them. 2. Saying that they are half-dog and half-man. Or any sort of supernatural figures or things that is untrue about them. 3. Drinking cooking oil out of nowhere or consuming weird items. 4. Tendency to talk to one self as if there’s another person in the room. 5. Express to others that a higher up figured like god convincing them to hurt themselves or others in the name of ‘saving’.
Yes he should’ve been 302’d. idk if you heard the one phone call between him and his dad after the incident, he was practically begging his dad for a psychiatrist. And the dad brushed it off more than once… “yeah yeah we’re working on it” then proceeded to have a conversation with him, to where he again asked him when he was gonna be able to see the psychiatrist…you could hear the sadness, confusion and fear in his voice, not for what was to come legally but fear of himself. This is just sad. I feel terrible for the couple that lost their lives and their family but I also feel sorry for him. He was clearly dismissed on the phone call so who knows how many times prior to the incident he may have mentioned this. I understand they were waiting for his appointment but as time went on like you said he was expressing and experiencing all of that and his parents brushed it off. They should be held accountable too.
Meth and diff drugs make u lose alot of weight. I'm sure too have him on un needed psyc med. I'm a big person on mental health. Most of my famiky is on med including me for dep and anxiety. Maybe him getting diagnosed or the drugs messing up his chemical imbalance
1:31 She's right. They failed to send him to rehab when they knew he was under drug use and wasn't acting straight. That doesn't excuse his behavior and what he did though
Wrong they had a appointment. I'm sure you've tried to get in to a Dr office before you usually got to wait for a bit to be seen, pointing fingers isn't going to change a thing
The victims family can’t have it both ways. They say he isn’t insane but then blame the parents for not getting him help quicker. She said the parents deserve to suffer the way they are. That’s just ignorant, no matter how bad they feel
The family probably should have worked through the anger stage of loss before making such passionate public statements. There was no one to blame in this case. Not even the parents, who planned to get him help, and who could have never conceived of such a thing happening. Their statements were very unfair.
@@beeticketI agree. I actually felt bad for him at one point especially after I heard the phone call between him and his Dad from prison. His Dad brushed him off after he asked him more than once if they were working on getting him a psychiatrist. Sounded more like they were too embarrassed and prideful to get him the help he needed prior to the incident. If you haven’t heard that phone call look it up, it really gave me a new perspective of the parent’s role in this. You could hear how scared, upset and confused he was, and I don’t mean scared of going to jail or legal actions, I mean scared of himself, it made me sad. Prior to the incident he was waiting for an appt for a psychiatrist…but I’m sorry if my family member, especially my child, was clearly suffering from those delusions, I would’ve had him 302’d. Sad situation, he was clearly exhibiting insanity prior to this, they could’ve done something and they didn’t. A lot of parents don’t want to admit their kids are in need of mental help, so they act like it’s not happening but come on. Maybe they should be put in the mental hospital with him.
As someone who recsbtly started having full on psychotic episodes this is something i now have empathy and understanding for.. its so scary to wake up out of it after hours and be shown videos of me talking to myself and putting my phone in the freezer ans have NO memories lf it. He had NO control over his actions. Which is something hard to comprehend. I feel so so bad for him.. that it just so happens his episode was violent:(
Samantha... it's demon possession. They take over your body and you have no control over it. That's why a lot of murderers don't remember what happened. Trust me Samantha look it up and learn about it. There is a way to get them out but the answer is Jesus. I pray you find Jesus and let Him set you free ❤
People never want to accept that sometimes terrible things happen and it's not the result of wrongdoing or injustice, because then there's no one to blame. Then you have to accept you're living in a capricious unsafe universe. That doesn't feel good.
Sound like your the type that would cross the street if a poc was walking that same street yet don’t mind walking down the street and or living beside a person like Ol Hannibal Lectors son here
You're completely fooled by this guy because hes working the system,he is on record saying how he wants to be famous before he dies that's not being insane its a narcissist,experts lol anyone that claims to be a mental health expert is the biggest quack con man around that peddle pills and claim chemical imbalances exist which they don't because there's no way to check on someones brain chemistry. You need to educate yourself about real mental health from people that are using it as an excuse to work the system instead of trusting so called experts that also have no clue because they've never experienced any of the things there claiming to know about.
NO he chose to take those drugs. Just like you choose to get wasted and drive. You are responsible for your actions even while on illegal and legal drugs.
@@antjack6192 exactly - can you imagine - the cops found him on top of the victims - biting on his face. No poc suspect would have survived that - and this guy doesn’t even get a trial.
I understand the family's grief but there has been extensive psychological interviews and assessments and he truly was in a state of insanity. The family members are obviously not any type of expert or doctor with a freaking PhD. Have they even taken time to try to understand the condition and what happened? He didn't even have basic human instincts when he was in that state. It's quite ignorant to act The way they are. He literally is the description of a person who is not guilty by reason of insanity. I understand if they don't understand or want to understand some psychological or mental atrocities that plague people but they don't really have a choice they need to look inside themselves and understand this wasn't some evil person who just wanted to go eat their dad's face he was in a truly psychotic state and it's horrible for the victims but it's also horrible for this man.
"taken the time to understand what happend", they're probably to busy grieving the horrific dead of their family members. I get what you're saying and this dude was obviously in some psychotic state but if we say he wasn't responsible bcs of it than who is? As a grieving family, you need to put your anger somewhere and that becomes impossible when responsibility is being taken away by an insanity claim. One could also argue he is responsible because of his drug abuse, which can effect chemical interactions and therefore brain physiology, even chronically. Ask yourself, if someone is drunk and becomes very violent & punches a guy and that guy dies, who is responsible? The drunk guy or the alcohol? How is it different with a person who took say bath salts? This guy might not have done drugs or drink at the time so he wasn't "acutely sick" (intoxicated), he did however on a chronical level. So I do agree that he was insane during those actions & should be put in a psych ward but he still carries some responsibility in my opinion (assuming it was drug abuse induced, which seems very likely). Than there's the question do you think he should ever be released again (which can happen under an insanity claim)? I'm not a psychologist but psychology isn't an exact science. I'm however a biomedical scientist and I'd say they should analyse his genetics as well as biochemical interactions in his brain, determine whether he's genetically inclined to his behavior or if his drug abuse altered his brain physiology. If so this guy should never be released and kept under surveillance for the rest of his life. I get that there's a lot of perspectives to look at this case, but to call the family ignorant is wrong, they're not ignorant, they're hurt and angry. And I personally think they're entitled to feel that way.
@@lalalaland4552 That was well said. This is a state hospital he is in, it isn't exactly a joy ride. Still, I understand the family of the victims, they wanted a prison sentence. This will be an interesting case to watch.
I get what you're saying but it's not their duty to have sympathy for him, especially when his family is getting away scott free while they carry this burden for the rest of their lives. They also get no closure while the killer is getting the help he needed. I do not blame them at all, I would never be able to forgive him too, despite his condition.
I don’t see how you can say he wasn’t insane even if you ignore his episodes and him having no drugs in his body , he was tased, ripped up by a dog, kicked in the head and face, had his head cracked open and was still attacking
@@blossomcharles4592 I was having “severe paranoid symptoms”? I could have sworn I just had the munchies from drinking too much beer. Your diagnosis of my behavior 20 years after the fact w/o even knowing me is making me paranoid now (if that helps). 😉😳
I just watched the police questioning of Austin's parents. They didn't know what was going on. They tried to understand what was going on but didn't really know bc bc he was sleeping during the day and couldn't sleep at night. Poor kid himself sounds scared bc he doesn't know what happened or why (Dr Phil). Cops didn't find any hard drugs in his system. I know this is a tragic case and the victim's families are angry. No winners here.
Someone in my family was diagnosed with depression because these are same symptoms, but come to find out he had tried Meth. Alot of things can cause this and getting the right help, but I truely believe drugs affected his chemical imbalance and he burned his insides so naturally wouldn't show up in system. He was ok to stand trial. Guess the mental hospital will tell the tell after drugs are out of his system
He could have been a drug addict and also had a psychotic break. He didn't even try to hide what he had done. He seemed completely delusional to me when I first heard the story.
@@theunalivenetwork7067 first off i never said give him a pass, you seem to like to make assumptions a whole lot, do you think being in a psychiatric institute is not being locked up, those places are very much so like prisons, but for mentally ill people. it's a real shame that people are all more for people being completely locked away forgotten about, instead of trying to rehabilitate them. that's like saying capital punishment is a good deterrent, that's why a lot of states got rid of it because low and behold people were still killing people, who knew killing people legally wasn't going to do a damn thing.
He needs to never be let out if he is who knows, one thing could trigger him into another psychosis and he could attack someone else. My great-grandma had schizophrenia and was insane she was locked in a facility but somehow she never went back, she was very crazy my mom tells me stories of how crazy she was. So Austin should never be let out, his parents failed him and he failed himself. Michelle and John never deserved this I just hope they can find peace one day.
He'd have take antipsychotics, I'm sure. You know, the thing he didn't get before he went "psychotic." Plus I'm sure he'll have to do some sort of mandated therapy. If anything, perhaps nonstop harrassment from the people who are against his case, will drive him have an acute mental break too. I guess we'll see. Better watch out, then. 🤗 And also, way to stigmatize, not biased at all. 🙄 Anyone can go "insane", just like him. Some just have more of a predisposition. He should have gotten help. In no way, am I advocating for him, no one deserves what happened to the people he hurt, whether he meant to or not. I just don't like how you spoke about mental illness.
@@HomoLegalMedic So you think this Maniac who ate a man’s face should be let out? But his take was stupid? Tell me you’re a liberal without telling me you’re a liberal
@Tom Campbell you read "effective medicine and outpatient treatment" and heard "let out"? Tell me you're an American without telling me you're an American. Over 50% of your population have a literacy skill below fifth-grade level. I'm not interested in your opinion since it's more than likely you're not going to be able to sufficiently understand mine.
*He should never get out.* In fact, wtf does crazy matter because he's still a murderer. There should be no such clause for not guilty by reason of insanity.
Do you think not guilty by reason of insanity is a get out of jail free card or something? Asylums tend to be worse than a lot of prisons for numerous reasons.
@@-u-waa but the potential to get out in an unacceptable amount of time exists and absolutely happens. Do you think knowing nothing about something makes you an expert? I'm more than aware that they can be much worse, I'm very well educated in government as a whole with a lot of special focus on the judiciary. *I actually read the laws in their legislated form, I very much doubt you can say the same.*
@@JonDeththe potential is less then one percent. Once you get sent to a asylum it’s almost impossible to ever leave and when they do leave they remain under heavy surveillance by police and doctors for long time.
Why is it not guilty by reason of insanity. Cant it be guilty by reason of insanity. If your sane or not. People died and you should still pay for the consequences.
guilt requires choice with full awareness of your actions and insane people are detached from reality so they cannot really be responsible for their actions. this does not mean they get to go free, people who get this verdict get carted away to a mental hospital with even less freedom than prison and their length of stay is entirely up to their psychologists so quite a few are stuck there for the rest of the lives
Because that requires you being fully sane and aware of what’s going on and willingness to do something. He was literally seeing daemons, and according to him that’s the reason he was sprinting was because he was apparently being chased by deamons.
Because to be deemed "guilty" you need to have consciously made the choices leading to whatever you're in court for, even if they were unintentional. In a case of extreme schizophrenia like this, you aren't making choices. You don't even know you're there.
No he's a disgusting psychotic freak who needs to be locked up forever. Too bad the neighbor who tried to help didn't have a gun so he could put Austin down like the rabid dog he is. It could have saved lives that day. And now they are actually going to release him? Absolutely insane. He's a monster.
I hope the daughter can give their anger to God and let their souls be healed. For their Own good. This is so deeply tragic, so heart breaking. Only God can fix this
Why are they mad that a druggie killed their family simply because he was a loser that clearly thought bragging about doing drugs to his friends made him cool? Gee I have no idea.
That girl pisses me off. He wasn’t sound of mind, you don’t think he’s beating himself up for it? Not his fault. He needs help and if he can be medicated he should be allowed out
Having a mental illness should never be an excuse to cause harm. If a person who is mentally ill harms another person, the criminal should be locked up. They are a danger to society and should not be cared for. Life in prison is the only place for them.
I can agree to an extent like people with bipolar and depression etc know what they're doing,on the other hand someone hearing voices is not in control of their mental faculties they can get a pass.
@@demonpride1975 but he still has the chance of getting "rehabilitated" and sent home. That is why the family is so upset. But in canada, thats the norm! Culture and law is arbitrary
He ate John stevens face. Much more than biting. Also used at least 2 different weapons to murder these people, one being a knife and the other a wine cork screw.
He was in psychosis… seeing things that aren’t there… in his mind, he truly believed he was in danger. It’s an extremely unfortunate circumstance altogether but mental health issues do exist, people
It would have been better for everyone if he didn't survive his coma. It's so tragic and unfortunate that people have little understanding of symptoms of psychosis....one. of which is physical pain has no effect, taking off your clothes in public for no reason, can't stop talking gibberish, paranoia,, no interest in sleeping or eating, attempts to hurt oneself, visual and/or auditory hallucinations, sudden bizarre beliefs about oneself/family/world. Yes, the parents should have called the police earlier. There are cases of drug induced psychosis, even from excessive use of weed, but the constellation of symptoms do not point to drug abuse. Austin will be punished, as it is unlikely he will ever live anything close to a normal life, and will remain in an institution. He was self medicating with drugs but he has a psychotic disorder. And the most common age for a psychotic disorder to show up, sometimes with little warning is approximately 17 to 25.
Austin Harrouff’s case has fueled criticism about systemic racial bias in the justice system, with many pointing out that he was treated with leniency often denied to defendants of color. Despite the brutal and bizarre nature of his crime-killing two innocent people in their own home and attempting to bite one victim’s face-Harrouff avoided a traditional trial and conviction. Instead, he was found not guilty by reason of insanity and committed to a mental health facility indefinitely. Critics argue that Harrouff’s privilege as a young, white man influenced how he was handled by law enforcement and the courts. From the moment of his arrest, he was subdued but not shot or severely restrained, even as he actively resisted officers. The insanity defense, though legally sound, is rarely successful, especially for Black and brown defendants, who are often viewed as more dangerous or less deserving of sympathy. For many, Harrouff’s case exemplifies how race and privilege can shape the outcome of violent crimes, allowing some to avoid the full consequences of their actions while others face harsher penalties for far less.
i don't think people understand, he's not going to a day spaw, chances are he's probably going to be in an asylum for a long time. and those places are not like open, their under lock and key just like a jail. i feel sorry for the family, but i mean people do suffer mental issues like this that cause them to do some horrible stuff. but the ultimate goal here should not be to lock a person up and throw away the key, people are so easy to rush to that, the goal should be to rehabilitate people. do you know why a large number of states got rid of the death penalty, because contrary to what people think, it's not a deterrent. if it were there would be no murder.
Well said. The family is hurt and angry, but she's no better throwing out threats. I don't think she understands that a mental institution is not freedom. I think prison is possibly more free in general population, and you get a job, hopefully meet friends and feel part of a community, but in a mental institution, I feel like you're around some pretty ill people and more isolated. I don't think either of them are fun. He definitely should not be set free if he can randomly lose it for no reason. He's a danger to society. It was just too bizarre. I didn't think they found any real major drug in his system, but can't remember. And his family is suffering too. That woman is hurt and angry, but I can only imagine his family has been shamed in their community and all the money they've had to spend to fight for him, plus even though he's alive, he's not with them anymore.
I think we can agree that the drugs made him do this, and if we're going to persecute people who cause homicides during drunk driver and other drinking related deaths, then this should count as well. The mistake was made when taking those drugs in the first place. You are responsible for the actions afterwards.
@@Brandon_66 Numerous professionals agree that he was clearly legally insane. Drugs obviously only made it worse, but if there’s some it’s pretty clear he didn’t have a lot of, it’s choice.
@@LaJuera25 @christoferprestipino7433 Yup insane as a result of his months of drug use, drug use that he bragged about. He played football only his senior year, a pretty obvious indication he was a loser back then. His incessant bragging about drugs showed he was still a loser in college and was trying to find recognition somewhere. Frying your brain, causing a psychotic fit, and killing folks because you don't have a social life hardly makes you a "winner" in my book.
Good thing we don't live in the stone ages anymore, then. Imagine a world where you lose your mind and can't help it, and, society casts you away or kills you. You're a horrible person if you think like that.
Cindy at 1:59 is the dumbest thing she said. Acting like the drugs made him do it like a scare tactic lol, i get stuff could happen with crack or some other type of crazy hard drug but that was not the case. He was simply just schizophrenic, insanely schizophrenic, and without help/medication or evaluation. His parents did a horrible job!
daddys friend in the FBI helped botch the toxicology reports - everyone involved from the state to defense...jusge to the parents needs to be investigated
A lot of people that get the insanity plea are stuck in whatever facility they're sent to for the rest of their life, and with even less freedom than they'd have in prison.
Jesus Christ, these so-called experts are insane. ANYONE that commits murder is insane. There is something wrong in their head for murdering. That is an excuse that has successfully being used by lawyers in other cases. At the very least, in his "sane" state, the monster does not look remorseful. The first rule of helping others is seeing if they want to be helped. In this case, he is not remorseful. Why help him?
Even medicated, not all mental illness dissipates. There is no magic cure-all pill. People can still have hallucinations, paranoia, and experience delusions while taking several medications. The guy looks like he's incredibly internally stimulated by hallucinations and blunted affect due to symptoms and also probably all the meds he's on. It doesn't diminish what he did, but also, mental illness is a terrible thing. A great thing to take from this is that there is a huge lack of understanding and stigma against mental illness. If people understood more and were better educated on mental health, others could recognize signs and get help sooner. Also, drug induced psychosis is 100% a thing. It doesn't mean you need to be high at the time. You could smoke weed, meth, pick your poison, and end up with a lifelong psychotic disorder depending on susceptibility and genetics. It's terrifying. Source: I work in an outpatient mental health facility with individuals who have bipolar, schizophrenia, and general psychosis symptoms. I know this is an old as hell comment, but I hope anyone who comes across this comment is able to learn a little more about mental health and recognize the importance of reducing stigma and educating themselves.
Omg he litteraly wanted police to kill him cuz he couldnt control himself. Now instead of jumping to conclusion you could have just watched some of the interviews he did or watch videos from his old youtube channel. In the videos you saw a man sliping into insanity litteraly, he suffered with schizophrenia and didnt get proper treatment in time. Why is it so hard for people to understand what a psychosis is? that man was out of his mind no sane person could have sustained dog bites, partially cracked skull and multiple tasings."He dosent look remorsful" wow didnt know we had a body language expert in the comments.
It should be guilty by reason of insanity…guilty…he did it…he’s guilty whether he’s sane or not. Either way he needs to be locked up for life wherever he ends up.
the question isn’t is he guilty or not they caught him doing it the question is actually is he liable to take full responsibility and consequence which he was not because he was having a psychotic episode and he was showing signs for a while and no one did anything about it it sucks for the victims family but that’s not his fault he clearly has issues and the drugs made it worse
@@webspider5601 this bath salt made 2 incidents this one and another one from a man that took them as well named Rudy Eugene and he needed up eating a homeless man face acting like a whole zombie
@@webspider5601 Except that's not true. If you looked into the case you'd find they tested for drugs and found only trace amounts. Drugs didn't cause this.
Usually i call bs when the use the insanity excuse but this guy was a rare and genuine case and was insane 💀 bro was literally just focused on eating that guys face in that moment, even with a k9 ripping him apart
Do you think it’s wrong to hate the criminals family for allowing this monster to exist? What if it was your family member that was pointlessly murdered. It’s personal as it should be.
@@alexisvaldez-horvath6153 yes I do think it's totally wrong to hate the criminals family. They didn't commit the crime. And what parent considers their child going crazy as a answer to their odd ball behavior? Not very many.
So sad that money will buy you freedom no matter what the cost to the victim/victims. That judge needs to be sentenced and his parents should have been fixed years ago. Pathetic that this world has turned into one big toilet full of $hitty, cold, heartless, souless monsters and we are all going down the drain.
what money bought him his freedom, i don't get this line of thinking. his lawyer was probably a state lawyer so he had no care either way, the judge is paid to do his job, you know to be impartial and fair. i hate to break it to you but feelings don't dictate the outcome thank god.
Let this be a lesson to everyone in America to be strapped no matter your state laws. The police ain’t gone save you when demons like this dirtbag come to eat your face 🔫
This kid ate a face what are you talking about I've done drugs my whole life and never tho about eating someone ... This kid is insane and judge made a good call
@@Alcyone.Pleiades tf? I dono, maybe done something about all the CLEAR AS DAY signs that their son was batshit insane. kinda like all these batshit insane people defending this dude like he's a victim himself, its horrifying society has fallen this far in to worshipping mental illness.
Sorry they lost his life I’m glad he’s getting HELP because jail won’t help and until people understand mental illness is real we will continue to hear cases like this
He wasn’t a drug addict or anything, he is mentally unstable he has been acting out of this world for a long time before the incident. This case is a case of mental health neglect, people who are close to him are the ones to blame, they knew about his mental state for a long time yet they never toke action and gave him the proper help he needed.
This has nothing to do with money. The kid was literally having a psychotic break. His parents failed him. It’s sad for everybody. I do feel bad for the guy.
Sounded like he was totally sane and just a druggie that needs to be put under the jail. Why did this freak get off? Who’s his family and what pull do they have? Texts show he was sane. Someone needs to lose their judge position, and the whole family needs to be incarcerated
What part of there were no drugs (more specifically no drugs that could cause what he did) in his system do you not understand? he had Trace Amounts of THC and alcohol, barely even detectable which means he hadn't smoked in at least a month or two and he hadn't drank within the last few weeks. The text do not prove he was sane whatsoever nor do they prove he is insane, it proves he's a typical teenager. The victim's family is more of a POS than anybody in this case. That lady read out all of his texts and Facebook messages out of hate and anger and literally all his messages were about was partying getting messed up and getting laid and that's what virtually every single teenage boy thinks about
@@YouAreTroll I understood it all, maybe you didn’t watch the entire vid like I did. He was a druggie that partied all the time, and a drunk. His brain was probably fried from all the alcohol and drugs
@@MyMysaysFU BAHAHAHAHAHA a little drugs and alcohol here and there does not turn people psychotic. what part of there was no drugs in his system at the time of the murder do you not understand? (except trace amounts of thc). you are butthurt so you are going to keep replying with something illogical while slightly changing the subject lolololol
@@YouAreTroll nah, better do your research. He had a bad habit of drinking until he passed out, smoking pot, popping pills. Every day. His words read from his texts, by one of the victims family members “at the trial”. Law and crime probably has it somewhere. I think that’s where I saw it, live. Seek and help shall find
This is a wealthy mans son. I knew he wasnt going ro prison when i heard his fathers recorded jailhouse conversations. You can HEAR how serious his dad is when saying "i will spend WHATEVER I HAVE TO SPEND to get you out of there" i just knew that there was a mental institution in his future. Thats the way it goes here folks in this capitalist society that we live in.
He didn't act on them, however. He only had trace amounts of THC and alcohol in his system at the time of the incident, so they would have had no influence.
The “victims” are the real problem, they were given evidence that shows he was completely out of it and had absolutely no drugs in his system but rather then looking at the facts they just want to hate and hold on to the bitterness rather then trying to find help for people like Austin so these things don’t happen and by help I don’t mean send them to prison and treat them like an animal when the “victims” don’t even understand what it’s like to experience psychosis…..just another example of people who don’t care about the truth and just want somebody to hate
Are u feeling ok?? I can guarantee if that were your family u wouldn't be saying that. The nightmares they have of someone eating their family's face off. As far as drugs they will do crazy things and he has a small trace and had issues before for month with drugs. The same night drank chemicals and burned his inside so naturally wouldn't show up. I'm a big believer in mental health as alot of our family is on med for dep and anxiety, but the tale will tell while he is in Hospital without drugs. I'm pretty sure most family in their right mind wouldn't feel sorry for him
@@CR-qf1ddAs someone whose family has been on both sides of this situation where both the perp and the victim were family members, I 100% agree with OP. I understand the families’ pain, but their comments towards Austin and his family are completely uncalled for, and they show their ignorance of how psychosis can literally break a person mentally. Unless you see how complex severe mental illnesses like schizophrenia can completely break a person to the point where they’re out of their mind and murder someone (in our case, another family member), then on top of that, have the mental healthcare system completely fail that person, it is SO easy to talk bad about that person when in actuality, they aren’t monsters. They’re victims of their own mental illnesses, and unfortunately with the way the system works, no one can get proper help until someone gets hurt. The reality is that Austin didn’t commit these murders. His schizophrenia did. Same with my family member when this same thing happened to them. It’s hard to understand if you haven’t been on that side of the equation, but if you’ve gone through it, you get it. So, I’m gonna echo your statement here but coming from the other side of it (really, both sides, but I’m focusing on the perp side): if it was your family, you wouldn’t be saying that. This is one of those rare cases where people can and should feel sorry for both the victims and the perpetrator.
Prayers for the two victims and their families such a horrible crime this animal has done . it's just as bad if not worse what the judicial system has done once again. This is sickening on so many different levels and is so unjust to the fullest so sad
Cry me a river all you want is revenge guy was clearly insane no sane human would have have sustained his injuries and kept attacking someone the pain from a dog ripping your arm open would be unimaginable he had a psychotic break
He was sick in the head. It would be different if he was a psychopath or sociopath. Pretty much a person who kills for pleasure or a person who kills for revenge. Austin was neither of those.
@@xenofanallen3218 Bath salts are extremely difficult to detect, and it’s very possible that he had been experimenting with some. “Cry my a river”- not exactly the most thoughtful, mind provoking response
The victims' families are obviously stuck in the anger stage at this point in time while they process the fallout of this horror, and I hope they eventually move through it. Because to direct such hatred and vitriol toward a family who's worst sin was being a bit clueless about mental health (probably because it wasn't valued in their generation growing up), and a young man suffering from a horrific loss of mind reflects such an ugly hardness of heart. If my dad had been eaten alive or my sister brutally unalived I would be completely devastated and traumatized, but I'd like to think I'd also have the compassion to understand this was the result of a terrible illness. To already have to suffer so much sadness and grief...why also harbor the extra weight of hatred? Let that part go and free yourselves of it.
Can't stand the way the court clerk kept craning her head like she's watching Days of our Lives.... @1:43 Also, nobody had sleep on this day. Austin was up for 24 hours straight and it appears the Mishcon's as well.
it's terrible what happened to the couple. but in this case i really think he had mental illness or a psychotic break that led him to this. he was tazed and dogs attacking him but he still didn't respond....that itself right there is telling he's not faking it. but the family of the victim has a right to be angry as no one wants that to happen to their family members.
@@a5tr4law nope it’s not justice better care better food more drugs. No justice in my opinion no proof of long term mental illness . nothing but drug use. he could be set free as well someday ?? SMH 🤦♀️ If someone did this to ur grandma and grandpa younwould not be say this. It’s was b.s insanity excuse.
The insanity plea isn't a get out of jail free card, it's a ticket to a place with even less freedom than most prisons where you're stuck indefinitely if you aren't deemed able.
"looked like me"? you seriously think he got the insanity ruling because he's white? That's absurd. Not saying the judge was right, but I don't think it was a racial decision.
@@elijahpicklestein1718 It is true and you know it. Statics show that black people are the least likely people to get an insanity plea. The most likely people just happen to be finically well of white women.
@@rammlane7101 I believe the financially well off part but the white part no the only color that matters is green,poor white people go to prison all the time you're just cherry picking the cases to suit your narrative.
At the end of the day, we’re all a victim of whatever brain we were born with. Not every person has the mental capacity to choose right from wrong. It’s tragic, but the reality is, there are many terrible situations in life where no one is fully at fault. This appears to be one of those sad cases.
If he does end up getting released, he’s statistically not more likely to reoffend. It’s a very common myth that people like him would just end up back on the streets and redo the same crimes when none of the data backs that up. There are hundreds of cases in Canada and the US exactly like this who end up on monitored conditional release and never murder again. And I have personal experience - I had a family member in the same situation. Never got in trouble with the law again, and we as a family never felt unsafe around them, nor did anyone else in the community. If anything, this is proof that hardcore rehab works better than prison for people who commit crimes (even murder) because of severe untreated mental illness.
This poor man. I'm not making his mental health problems an excuse but this guy must've been so troubled and paranoid to the point of murdering that couple. The mom and dad are BOTH just as guilty; the mom reported her son before it happened, but she didn't do it any other time? And the dad appeared on Dr. Phil just to get media attention, because who DOESN'T go on Dr. Phil for attention these days.... yeesh
🇿🇦🇿🇦, He will kill again and the next tine he does it , it will be his family . He saw how easy it is to get away with murder by acting insane . Am not just saying it , true true Austin will do it to his own family next time 🇿🇦🇿🇦
Do you dumbasses in the comments here just think people that get the insanity plea just walk out or something? The insanity plea means you're sent to a secure mental facility with *even less freedom* than the majority of prisons. You're in there until you're deemed fit to return to society. There are a vast amount of cases where people never leave.
Forgiveness is key people its the only way to move past stuff like this holding hate in your heart for a person won't make you any better than them an wishing a life of misery on someone is just as low in my opinion
No I wouldnt forgive this monster. I'm sad the neighbor didn't have a gun so he could put this psychotic freak down like a rabid dog. It could of saved lives but instead now his maniac will eventually be released! I can only hope karma gets him now, Or maybe some good ol frontier justice 👍
@sammihebert6493 Nope, it's not just a better way of looking at it and moving past things. Yeah, it's understandable that they could be angry but definitely won't help you out in the long run
Condolences to the victim's family. Btw, how can he eat human flesh so casually? I think he had a terrible childhood. This is why I refused having kids until I really want.
Ask your kids if they want you. Nobody wants to be here it’s just narcissists who force souls to be born into the flesh of this human hell. Keep the latex on your man’s Jack!
you think he had a terrible childhood, ugh everyone is a bloody psychiatrist on here. maybe just maybe there actually is something mentally wrong with him. hence the whole psychiatrist.
This is one of those rare cases where not guilty by insanity is 100% appropriate. But the victims are absolutely right in what they said.
Not guilty by reason of Florida.
Nah he was just coming down off drugs. Like most killers.
@@USA-ly1uy well there's no verdict or plea that says "not guilty by reason of coming of drugs". The reason is still because he was temporarily insane during the commission of the crime.
He was on drugs. He might have suffered a psychotic break but it's because of substance use.
Too bad the neighbor didn't own a gun because everyone else might have been alive still.
Austin should have been put down like a rabid dog.
Now he'll eventually be released and he'll probably snap again. Charge him with murder and lock him up for good.
@@USA-ly1uy he was at dinner with his folks an hour before the attack. he went outside halfway through and didn't come back to the table. he wasn't wasted. he was going through some hardcore psychological breakdown.
He had no drugs in his system during the attack even if your were pretending to be insane you wouldn’t be able to handle a taser multiple dog attacks and full force kicks to the face he was pure insane and the blame should go to his family and close circle for not doing something sooner
Yeah exactly! I'm back here because of the Leticia Stauch case where she actually is pretending to be insane to escape justice. 😂And for the people online who I came across who believed her I just kept directing them to this case specifically. I truly believe Austin wasn't sane. I truly believe his parents should be the ones facing trial. They failed their son. They were afraid of him for the entire summer yet didn't bother to call 911? Disgusting. I am truly horrified by his parents actions.
In 2 weeks? You’re acting like the US mental health system is reliable it isn’t
I don't think you're being considerate to the family. These things are so rare you, I, and everyone would never expect them. All they thought was that he needed help, their son, and they were getting it. There are tons who wouldn't even take that step.
As far as him being insane, it's only obvious. Thrill killers avoid capture. For one out of the so many obvious things.
He had small amounts of thc and alcohol in his system at the time of the attack.
@@taloncoulter432yeah but people can’t use that as the reason if his crime 😭
He ate a mans face
A dog bit his arm twice unfazed
He was tazed
He drank cleaning chemicals and a bottle of Oil
He said he saw slenderman
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This is not his fault his brain malfunctioned, and he wasnt diagnosed early enough.
This didn't happen over night, his family saw him slowly losing his damn mind
Bars
@Darkhorse the "Dahmer cannibalism" is so overblown, he did that with maybe 2 victims and it was after his 9th murder. He was too far gone to be rehabilitated, he fell into a deep hole and was addicted by sexual and emotional pleasure. Dahmer was not evil, he did horrible evil acts but he wanted to know why he was so mentally unhinged and why he committed such vicous crimes. This kid was not evil either, he was legally insane. You need to get over it and look into forgiveness, hatred is not the answer
I legit feel bad for the guy. I also believe his family failed him, they seen him going crazy weeks in advanced
@@LadyGodiva7460 Dahmer didn’t snap, he premeditated murder😂 he knew exactly what he was doing, no comparison. This dude thought he was a dog, lost his damn mind, something snapped in his brain.
im so glad they are holding the parents accountable for their neglect.
Not even his parents can save that Evil. I don't think noOne can Save him
@@amberzachow3326yes they could've
Naw this stuff is crazy, treating 19 year olds like toddlers. "But your honor our poor little angel was crazy! You couldn't possibly charge him with anything!" 🤡
Wasn't he a legal adult at the time? You cannot force someone to take treatment
@@markusjohnson6558Unless there are concerns regarding his capacity (ability to make an informed decision) as was the case for him
People blame drugs for everything. It’s time for her to accept that people can act crazy while completely sober.
underrated comment
except he bragged about taking a ton of drugs. you don't need drugs in your system for them to have everlasting effects that can spawn at a later time. it's pretty obvious that drugs induced his psychosis even though he was sober at the time.
Yeah, but in this particular case, it's probably the drugs he was taking that caused his brain to act up in the first place.
@@lavs8696 they literally did tests, and they found there was only a tiny bit thc, so no he was insane
@@grahamkight9111 im saying the drugs he did in in the months/years leading up to this induced his psychosis.
If Austin Harrouff doesn't meet the definition of the word insane! I'd sure like hell hate to run into the guy who is!
"Don't put me in the same club as that guy" - Rudy Eugene
Dude he was totally normal before the drugs. He has a predisposition to schizophrenia and he likely was in a state of psychosis which is generally what the documents by that renowned psychologist said. The drugs induced it but it lasted so long because once he realized it was already too late. He couldn’t sleep and continued to not sleep. If you see the pictures of him before and after he clearly was not sleeping for weeks. He lost a ton of weight and looks like he was dying. Particularly the hollows around his eyes. Psychosis is rly scary because it takes one extra night of no sleep for any average person, you may not think the fourth night or whatever one you’d be on could do it but it varies. You don’t know when you’re in it until you’re doing something crazy
Hey, i heard that !! That is what john wayne gacy said about jeffrey dahmer!! 🤣🤣🤣
People who think this judgement is better than prison? These are very dark places these ppl have to live in. And for a person who is no longer insane, it's even worse. It'll take years - even decades - to prove he is no longer a threat. He's not going free anytime soon
He Can never be trusted out loose....
Someone that has dealt with drugs and would prob get bk involved and are someone's face, but ok to stand trial can not be trusted in society. The Hospital will tell the tale of how his mental state will be without the drugs and drinking chemicals that prob removed some of them
He can't be trusted to be out, he was crazy and it's a shame the neighbor didn't have a gun. Austin is a sick individual and it's a travesty he won't be locked up for good. What he did was absolutely disgusting. Plus he STILL thinks he was "possessed" showing he still isn't mentally ok.
@@lindickison3055 he can be trusted he will come out normal
@@LisaAnn777 can trust
I was completely healthy mentally. Untill I was stuck in a 6 year extreme traumatic situation. After that I was diagnosed with severe Burn out, Complicated PTSD, Sever unipolar and bipolar depression. I found most people don't understand mental health, because its not a broken arm or cut over your face. It is something you cant see with your eyes. I have a totally new respect for mental health, disabled people est. Mental health is a lonely road. If you have friends and family that support you in make a world of different. I can just imagine the pain, anger and grief of the victims family. It sounds like your parents were great people. The neighbours sir...your a hero for trying to help. This is not easy. But for parents who ignoring mental health issues is un acceptable. Even if you don't understand it, get help.
The parents neglected the signs but at the same time were in denial because they didn’t understand. They were just hoping it would get better. People can say all day what to do with your kids but denial is a crazy thing. Ignorance is a crazy thing. No one ever thinks it can happen to them. No one ever dreams this would be the outcome regardless of mental illness. It’s so extremely rare to get this this place so why would they have thought any different. This kid is one of the rare cases of 100% mental illness. Forgiveness will still be so hard and my heart hurts for the victims. This is a hard one especially when you understand mental illness. What a terrible outcome for all the families.
I’m glad he wasn’t charged. And sent to prison. He needed help and it was CLEAR and evident on multiple occasions
Doesn’t excuse what he did but what the hell? How do you not call the psych ward after ur kid MOVES HIS BED TO THE GARAGE BC “they’re are demons all over this house”
Or after he says he was “half horse” or “half dog” ??? Or when he threatened to kill his sister??
Ok and I know the victims are feeling bad or whatever but dude stop blaming the guy!! Blame the parents!! What happened happened but that guy ain’t a typical murderer. You can’t say all that to him. That shoe doesn’t fit. He was totally normal until he got into the drugs and nobody helped him! So stop treating him like he’ll offend again.
If those were my parents that got brutality murdered. I'd be mad as hell too and I wouldn't forgive either.
Absolutely I would too but as someone who wasn’t affected and can look at this neutrally I feel bad for Austin too. I couldn’t imagine losing control of you’re mind and finding out you did that to people.
@@skinfluithero4885he didnt this was all on purpose he had no sympathy
@@Pants44 damn g did he tell you that himself?
@@Pants44you clearly didn’t read the case and the months prop to it and it shows greatly 💀
@@Pants44 Yea, it was all on purpose. Getting tased, attacked by a K9, getting fully forced kicked, etc. Yea, it was on purpose, absolutely.
How was he a drug addict? He had no drugs in his system...
thc and alcohol
Very small amounts during his actions though
@@Conniex314no small thc to be ingested that day.
They didn't test for mushrooms. That was his drug of choice.
thc isliterally just weed lol wtf@@Conniex314
I’m super angry at his family and friends. It’s one thing to not notice depression signs because it’s very complicated. But you can immediately tell someone is in some sort of psychosis just from:
1. Consistently claiming about fighting demons and you actively see them going on ‘Patrol’ to fight them.
2. Saying that they are half-dog and half-man. Or any sort of supernatural figures or things that is untrue about them.
3. Drinking cooking oil out of nowhere or consuming weird items.
4. Tendency to talk to one self as if there’s another person in the room.
5. Express to others that a higher up figured like god convincing them to hurt themselves or others in the name of ‘saving’.
Yes he should’ve been 302’d. idk if you heard the one phone call between him and his dad after the incident, he was practically begging his dad for a psychiatrist. And the dad brushed it off more than once… “yeah yeah we’re working on it” then proceeded to have a conversation with him, to where he again asked him when he was gonna be able to see the psychiatrist…you could hear the sadness, confusion and fear in his voice, not for what was to come legally but fear of himself. This is just sad. I feel terrible for the couple that lost their lives and their family but I also feel sorry for him. He was clearly dismissed on the phone call so who knows how many times prior to the incident he may have mentioned this. I understand they were waiting for his appointment but as time went on like you said he was expressing and experiencing all of that and his parents brushed it off. They should be held accountable too.
Then you have the people commenting about rehab..like no people rehab wouldn’t have helped him. SMH.
He must be on a lotta meds. Gained quite a bit of weight.
Meth and diff drugs make u lose alot of weight. I'm sure too have him on un needed psyc med. I'm a big person on mental health. Most of my famiky is on med including me for dep and anxiety. Maybe him getting diagnosed or the drugs messing up his chemical imbalance
Almost every antipsychotic med causes weight gain, that is why you see so many mentally ill killers get chunky when they're on trial.
1:31 She's right. They failed to send him to rehab when they knew he was under drug use and wasn't acting straight. That doesn't excuse his behavior and what he did though
Wrong they had a appointment. I'm sure you've tried to get in to a Dr office before you usually got to wait for a bit to be seen, pointing fingers isn't going to change a thing
It was not drugs
He didn’t even have drugs in his system when he lost his mind that day, it’s called mental illness.
It totally excuses his behaviour. Feels like Americans have no clue what psychosis is
@@bigfatburn6229 literally, schizophrenia can be terrifying to some, he was being chased by imaginary demons
The victims family can’t have it both ways. They say he isn’t insane but then blame the parents for not getting him help quicker. She said the parents deserve to suffer the way they are. That’s just ignorant, no matter how bad they feel
The family probably should have worked through the anger stage of loss before making such passionate public statements. There was no one to blame in this case. Not even the parents, who planned to get him help, and who could have never conceived of such a thing happening. Their statements were very unfair.
@@beeticketI agree. I actually felt bad for him at one point especially after I heard the phone call between him and his Dad from prison. His Dad brushed him off after he asked him more than once if they were working on getting him a psychiatrist. Sounded more like they were too embarrassed and prideful to get him the help he needed prior to the incident. If you haven’t heard that phone call look it up, it really gave me a new perspective of the parent’s role in this. You could hear how scared, upset and confused he was, and I don’t mean scared of going to jail or legal actions, I mean scared of himself, it made me sad. Prior to the incident he was waiting for an appt for a psychiatrist…but I’m sorry if my family member, especially my child, was clearly suffering from those delusions, I would’ve had him 302’d. Sad situation, he was clearly exhibiting insanity prior to this, they could’ve done something and they didn’t. A lot of parents don’t want to admit their kids are in need of mental help, so they act like it’s not happening but come on. Maybe they should be put in the mental hospital with him.
As someone who recsbtly started having full on psychotic episodes this is something i now have empathy and understanding for.. its so scary to wake up out of it after hours and be shown videos of me talking to myself and putting my phone in the freezer ans have NO memories lf it. He had NO control over his actions. Which is something hard to comprehend. I feel so so bad for him.. that it just so happens his episode was violent:(
literally, both the people he killed and himself are victims, schizophrenia is a hell of a thing
I hope you are getting better, being out of touch with reality is terrible..
Samantha... it's demon possession. They take over your body and you have no control over it. That's why a lot of murderers don't remember what happened. Trust me Samantha look it up and learn about it. There is a way to get them out but the answer is Jesus. I pray you find Jesus and let Him set you free ❤
So what I’m hearing is that the families of the victims don’t know how to comprehend evidence.
People never want to accept that sometimes terrible things happen and it's not the result of wrongdoing or injustice, because then there's no one to blame. Then you have to accept you're living in a capricious unsafe universe. That doesn't feel good.
I trust the experts over the pain of the victims families opinion. Yes they are hurt. But there is a reason why he was deemed insane. Because he was.
Most murderers are insane. So plan on more murderers walking away from being convicted and walking the streets again.
Sound like your the type that would cross the street if a poc was walking that same street yet don’t mind walking down the street and or living beside a person like Ol Hannibal Lectors son here
You're completely fooled by this guy because hes working the system,he is on record saying how he wants to be famous before he dies that's not being insane its a narcissist,experts lol anyone that claims to be a mental health expert is the biggest quack con man around that peddle pills and claim chemical imbalances
exist which they don't because there's no way to check on someones brain chemistry.
You need to educate yourself about real mental health from people that are using it as an excuse to work the system instead of trusting so called experts that also have no clue because they've never experienced
any of the things there claiming to know about.
NO he chose to take those drugs. Just like you choose to get wasted and drive. You are responsible for your actions even while on illegal and legal drugs.
@@antjack6192 exactly - can you imagine - the cops found him on top of the victims - biting on his face. No poc suspect would have survived that - and this guy doesn’t even get a trial.
Own a firearm use it! don't own one get one !
This is so true because no one cares about your safety but you.
I understand the family's grief but there has been extensive psychological interviews and assessments and he truly was in a state of insanity. The family members are obviously not any type of expert or doctor with a freaking PhD. Have they even taken time to try to understand the condition and what happened? He didn't even have basic human instincts when he was in that state. It's quite ignorant to act The way they are. He literally is the description of a person who is not guilty by reason of insanity. I understand if they don't understand or want to understand some psychological or mental atrocities that plague people but they don't really have a choice they need to look inside themselves and understand this wasn't some evil person who just wanted to go eat their dad's face he was in a truly psychotic state and it's horrible for the victims but it's also horrible for this man.
"taken the time to understand what happend", they're probably to busy grieving the horrific dead of their family members. I get what you're saying and this dude was obviously in some psychotic state but if we say he wasn't responsible bcs of it than who is? As a grieving family, you need to put your anger somewhere and that becomes impossible when responsibility is being taken away by an insanity claim. One could also argue he is responsible because of his drug abuse, which can effect chemical interactions and therefore brain physiology, even chronically. Ask yourself, if someone is drunk and becomes very violent & punches a guy and that guy dies, who is responsible? The drunk guy or the alcohol? How is it different with a person who took say bath salts? This guy might not have done drugs or drink at the time so he wasn't "acutely sick" (intoxicated), he did however on a chronical level. So I do agree that he was insane during those actions & should be put in a psych ward but he still carries some responsibility in my opinion (assuming it was drug abuse induced, which seems very likely).
Than there's the question do you think he should ever be released again (which can happen under an insanity claim)? I'm not a psychologist but psychology isn't an exact science. I'm however a biomedical scientist and I'd say they should analyse his genetics as well as biochemical interactions in his brain, determine whether he's genetically inclined to his behavior or if his drug abuse altered his brain physiology. If so this guy should never be released and kept under surveillance for the rest of his life.
I get that there's a lot of perspectives to look at this case, but to call the family ignorant is wrong, they're not ignorant, they're hurt and angry. And I personally think they're entitled to feel that way.
Ahh please, if he did this to your family, you’d be singing a different tune
@@Rico401ProvMaybe but this is emotional reasoning.
@@lalalaland4552 That was well said. This is a state hospital he is in, it isn't exactly a joy ride. Still, I understand the family of the victims, they wanted a prison sentence. This will be an interesting case to watch.
I get what you're saying but it's not their duty to have sympathy for him, especially when his family is getting away scott free while they carry this burden for the rest of their lives. They also get no closure while the killer is getting the help he needed. I do not blame them at all, I would never be able to forgive him too, despite his condition.
He shouldn’t be allowed back in society prison or not.
Maybe in 30 years but in a way I feel bad for him. Nobody helped him until it was too late.
@@tommyboy_t3a I do agree I feel bad for him to it’s actually really sad. He didn’t get the help he needed.
I don’t see how you can say he wasn’t insane even if you ignore his episodes and him having no drugs in his body , he was tased, ripped up by a dog, kicked in the head and face, had his head cracked open and was still attacking
When I used to get drunk , I’d end up eating Jack in the Box…NOT JACK!
I’d eat McDonalds but not Mac
Lmao 😂
He wasn't drunk on the night of the incident, he was having severe paranoid symptoms for a while before the incident even happened.
@@blossomcharles4592 I was having “severe paranoid symptoms”? I could have sworn I just had the munchies from drinking too much beer. Your diagnosis of my behavior 20 years after the fact w/o even knowing me is making me paranoid now (if that helps). 😉😳
@@blossomcharles4592 that's the joke.
I just watched the police questioning of Austin's parents. They didn't know what was going on. They tried to understand what was going on but didn't really know bc bc he was sleeping during the day and couldn't sleep at night. Poor kid himself sounds scared bc he doesn't know what happened or why (Dr Phil). Cops didn't find any hard drugs in his system. I know this is a tragic case and the victim's families are angry. No winners here.
Someone in my family was diagnosed with depression because these are same symptoms, but come to find out he had tried Meth. Alot of things can cause this and getting the right help, but I truely believe drugs affected his chemical imbalance and he burned his insides so naturally wouldn't show up in system. He was ok to stand trial. Guess the mental hospital will tell the tell after drugs are out of his system
very sad for families n the judge should keep him in mental hospital forever
He could have been a drug addict and also had a psychotic break. He didn't even try to hide what he had done. He seemed completely delusional to me when I first heard the story.
@@theunalivenetwork7067 Exactly. That’s not delusion.
@@theunalivenetwork7067 ever had a psychotic break, i bet you haven't
@@theunalivenetwork7067 no i haven't but i am not the one making claims i have no clue about.
@@theunalivenetwork7067 first off i never said give him a pass, you seem to like to make assumptions a whole lot, do you think being in a psychiatric institute is not being locked up, those places are very much so like prisons, but for mentally ill people.
it's a real shame that people are all more for people being completely locked away forgotten about, instead of trying to rehabilitate them.
that's like saying capital punishment is a good deterrent, that's why a lot of states got rid of it because low and behold people were still killing people, who knew killing people legally wasn't going to do a damn thing.
@@theunalivenetwork7067 your such an ignorant pos.
He needs to never be let out if he is who knows, one thing could trigger him into another psychosis and he could attack someone else. My great-grandma had schizophrenia and was insane she was locked in a facility but somehow she never went back, she was very crazy my mom tells me stories of how crazy she was. So Austin should never be let out, his parents failed him and he failed himself. Michelle and John never deserved this I just hope they can find peace one day.
He'd have take antipsychotics, I'm sure. You know, the thing he didn't get before he went "psychotic." Plus I'm sure he'll have to do some sort of mandated therapy.
If anything, perhaps nonstop harrassment from the people who are against his case, will drive him have an acute mental break too. I guess we'll see. Better watch out, then. 🤗
And also, way to stigmatize, not biased at all. 🙄
Anyone can go "insane", just like him. Some just have more of a predisposition.
He should have gotten help.
In no way, am I advocating for him, no one deserves what happened to the people he hurt, whether he meant to or not.
I just don't like how you spoke about mental illness.
What a stupid take.
We have effective medications and outpatient treatment that can allow them to be contributing members of family.
@@HomoLegalMedic So you think this Maniac who ate a man’s face should be let out? But his take was stupid? Tell me you’re a liberal without telling me you’re a liberal
@Tom Campbell you read "effective medicine and outpatient treatment" and heard "let out"? Tell me you're an American without telling me you're an American.
Over 50% of your population have a literacy skill below fifth-grade level. I'm not interested in your opinion since it's more than likely you're not going to be able to sufficiently understand mine.
@@HomoLegalMedic That doesn't always work. This boy is pretty messed up.
Idk man someone eating peoples faces sane or not should not be out
This has backfire written all over it.
Pretty sure he's going to a mental health institution, not going free.
@@shikarahaar490 end of the video the reporter said he can be out if medical staff and judge believe he has rehabilitated
*He should never get out.* In fact, wtf does crazy matter because he's still a murderer. There should be no such clause for not guilty by reason of insanity.
Do you think not guilty by reason of insanity is a get out of jail free card or something? Asylums tend to be worse than a lot of prisons for numerous reasons.
@@-u-waa but the potential to get out in an unacceptable amount of time exists and absolutely happens. Do you think knowing nothing about something makes you an expert?
I'm more than aware that they can be much worse, I'm very well educated in government as a whole with a lot of special focus on the judiciary. *I actually read the laws in their legislated form, I very much doubt you can say the same.*
@@JonDeththe potential is less then one percent. Once you get sent to a asylum it’s almost impossible to ever leave and when they do leave they remain under heavy surveillance by police and doctors for long time.
Why is it not guilty by reason of insanity. Cant it be guilty by reason of insanity. If your sane or not. People died and you should still pay for the consequences.
guilt requires choice with full awareness of your actions and insane people are detached from reality so they cannot really be responsible for their actions. this does not mean they get to go free, people who get this verdict get carted away to a mental hospital with even less freedom than prison and their length of stay is entirely up to their psychologists so quite a few are stuck there for the rest of the lives
Because that requires you being fully sane and aware of what’s going on and willingness to do something. He was literally seeing daemons, and according to him that’s the reason he was sprinting was because he was apparently being chased by deamons.
Because to be deemed "guilty" you need to have consciously made the choices leading to whatever you're in court for, even if they were unintentional.
In a case of extreme schizophrenia like this, you aren't making choices. You don't even know you're there.
How can you be accountable for an action that you had no control over?
The correct verdict was given despite what the daughters said!!!
No he's a disgusting psychotic freak who needs to be locked up forever. Too bad the neighbor who tried to help didn't have a gun so he could put Austin down like the rabid dog he is. It could have saved lives that day. And now they are actually going to release him? Absolutely insane. He's a monster.
I hope the daughter can give their anger to God and let their souls be healed. For their Own good. This is so deeply tragic, so heart breaking. Only God can fix this
Why are they so mad that he's actually going to get treated for his mental health instead of being put in a cage, untreated. Kinda weird
Why are they mad that a druggie killed their family simply because he was a loser that clearly thought bragging about doing drugs to his friends made him cool? Gee I have no idea.
That girl pisses me off. He wasn’t sound of mind, you don’t think he’s beating himself up for it? Not his fault. He needs help and if he can be medicated he should be allowed out
Dude shut up 🙄
Aah another criminal simp 🤡
Having a mental illness should never be an excuse to cause harm. If a person who is mentally ill harms another person, the criminal should be locked up. They are a danger to society and should not be cared for. Life in prison is the only place for them.
It’s not an excuse. Due to his mental illness, he was literally not in control of his actions, therefore there is no guilt.
Mental health institution, if he is not insane he will be, more than likely will want to kill himself. Good riddance!!!
So having a broken leg should never be excuse for not passing a PT test?
Everyone in prison usually has a mental illness, judge and state will regret this decision.
I can agree to an extent like people with bipolar and depression etc know what they're doing,on the other hand someone hearing voices is not in control of their mental faculties they can get a pass.
If he goes free, it is a danger that he will bite someone on the street again
Bite? He mauled them to death like a evil beast.
he's not going free, he's probably going to go to a full lock down facility with guards and locks and everything.
@@demonpride1975 but he still has the chance of getting "rehabilitated" and sent home. That is why the family is so upset. But in canada, thats the norm! Culture and law is arbitrary
He ate John stevens face. Much more than biting. Also used at least 2 different weapons to murder these people, one being a knife and the other a wine cork screw.
He was in psychosis… seeing things that aren’t there… in his mind, he truly believed he was in danger. It’s an extremely unfortunate circumstance altogether but mental health issues do exist, people
It would have been better for everyone if he didn't survive his coma. It's so tragic and unfortunate that people have little understanding of symptoms of psychosis....one. of which is physical pain has no effect, taking off your clothes in public for no reason, can't stop talking gibberish, paranoia,, no interest in sleeping or eating, attempts to hurt oneself, visual and/or auditory hallucinations, sudden bizarre beliefs about oneself/family/world. Yes,
the parents should have called the police earlier. There are cases of drug induced psychosis, even from excessive use of weed, but the constellation
of symptoms do not point to drug abuse. Austin will be punished, as it is unlikely he will ever live anything close to a normal life, and will remain in an institution. He was self medicating with drugs but he has a psychotic disorder. And the most common age for a psychotic disorder to show up, sometimes with little warning is approximately 17 to 25.
Austin Harrouff’s case has fueled criticism about systemic racial bias in the justice system, with many pointing out that he was treated with leniency often denied to defendants of color. Despite the brutal and bizarre nature of his crime-killing two innocent people in their own home and attempting to bite one victim’s face-Harrouff avoided a traditional trial and conviction. Instead, he was found not guilty by reason of insanity and committed to a mental health facility indefinitely.
Critics argue that Harrouff’s privilege as a young, white man influenced how he was handled by law enforcement and the courts. From the moment of his arrest, he was subdued but not shot or severely restrained, even as he actively resisted officers. The insanity defense, though legally sound, is rarely successful, especially for Black and brown defendants, who are often viewed as more dangerous or less deserving of sympathy.
For many, Harrouff’s case exemplifies how race and privilege can shape the outcome of violent crimes, allowing some to avoid the full consequences of their actions while others face harsher penalties for far less.
No wonder people don't feel safe these days.
So sad that the parents were called out for their neglect too late. Can't imagine what the victims' family and friends went through
Unbelievable
i don't think people understand, he's not going to a day spaw, chances are he's probably going to be in an asylum for a long time. and those places are not like open, their under lock and key just like a jail. i feel sorry for the family, but i mean people do suffer mental issues like this that cause them to do some horrible stuff. but the ultimate goal here should not be to lock a person up and throw away the key, people are so easy to rush to that, the goal should be to rehabilitate people.
do you know why a large number of states got rid of the death penalty, because contrary to what people think, it's not a deterrent. if it were there would be no murder.
Well said. The family is hurt and angry, but she's no better throwing out threats. I don't think she understands that a mental institution is not freedom. I think prison is possibly more free in general population, and you get a job, hopefully meet friends and feel part of a community, but in a mental institution, I feel like you're around some pretty ill people and more isolated. I don't think either of them are fun. He definitely should not be set free if he can randomly lose it for no reason. He's a danger to society. It was just too bizarre. I didn't think they found any real major drug in his system, but can't remember. And his family is suffering too. That woman is hurt and angry, but I can only imagine his family has been shamed in their community and all the money they've had to spend to fight for him, plus even though he's alive, he's not with them anymore.
He has the taste of human blood..you know what happens to a wild animal when they attack a human and taste blood? They catch it and put it down.
*spa
I think we can agree that the drugs made him do this, and if we're going to persecute people who cause homicides during drunk driver and other drinking related deaths, then this should count as well. The mistake was made when taking those drugs in the first place. You are responsible for the actions afterwards.
@@Brandon_66 Numerous professionals agree that he was clearly legally insane. Drugs obviously only made it worse, but if there’s some it’s pretty clear he didn’t have a lot of, it’s choice.
My problem with these comments is what about the victims?
Well Of course- but there are still no “winners” in this case.
It’s tragic, but this boy was insane, no two ways about it.
@@LaJuera25 @christoferprestipino7433 Yup insane as a result of his months of drug use, drug use that he bragged about. He played football only his senior year, a pretty obvious indication he was a loser back then. His incessant bragging about drugs showed he was still a loser in college and was trying to find recognition somewhere. Frying your brain, causing a psychotic fit, and killing folks because you don't have a social life hardly makes you a "winner" in my book.
Does anyone know where he has been for the past six years, while awaiting the trial that didn't happen. Was he in jail or on house arrest?
Jail
He went to a secure medical facility.
I don’t think rehab would ever help him. Back in the day, he would be put down or locked up in an asylum.
Good thing we don't live in the stone ages anymore, then. Imagine a world where you lose your mind and can't help it, and, society casts you away or kills you. You're a horrible person if you think like that.
Back in the day people would be sent to get lobotomised because they had manic depression.
Cindy at 1:59 is the dumbest thing she said. Acting like the drugs made him do it like a scare tactic lol, i get stuff could happen with crack or some other type of crazy hard drug but that was not the case. He was simply just schizophrenic, insanely schizophrenic, and without help/medication or evaluation. His parents did a horrible job!
He's not f**king insane and was not insane. The judge really messed up here.
daddys friend in the FBI helped botch the toxicology reports - everyone involved from the state to defense...jusge to the parents needs to be investigated
Did you even study the case???
@@UwU-eb3hq do you have evidence of this?
The prosecutor's own psychiatrist said he was insane, so , then what?
The new out for murderers when he gets out he will hurt someone again.
he was insane but he is also white and well off hence he gets the chance to live and avoid prison for life
A lot of people that get the insanity plea are stuck in whatever facility they're sent to for the rest of their life, and with even less freedom than they'd have in prison.
Why is it always USA, with the CRAZY CASES?
Maybe he is a demon
Jesus Christ, these so-called experts are insane. ANYONE that commits murder is insane. There is something wrong in their head for murdering. That is an excuse that has successfully being used by lawyers in other cases. At the very least, in his "sane" state, the monster does not look remorseful. The first rule of helping others is seeing if they want to be helped. In this case, he is not remorseful. Why help him?
Even medicated, not all mental illness dissipates. There is no magic cure-all pill. People can still have hallucinations, paranoia, and experience delusions while taking several medications. The guy looks like he's incredibly internally stimulated by hallucinations and blunted affect due to symptoms and also probably all the meds he's on. It doesn't diminish what he did, but also, mental illness is a terrible thing. A great thing to take from this is that there is a huge lack of understanding and stigma against mental illness. If people understood more and were better educated on mental health, others could recognize signs and get help sooner.
Also, drug induced psychosis is 100% a thing. It doesn't mean you need to be high at the time. You could smoke weed, meth, pick your poison, and end up with a lifelong psychotic disorder depending on susceptibility and genetics. It's terrifying.
Source: I work in an outpatient mental health facility with individuals who have bipolar, schizophrenia, and general psychosis symptoms. I know this is an old as hell comment, but I hope anyone who comes across this comment is able to learn a little more about mental health and recognize the importance of reducing stigma and educating themselves.
Omg he litteraly wanted police to kill him cuz he couldnt control himself. Now instead of jumping to conclusion you could have just watched some of the interviews he did or watch videos from his old youtube channel. In the videos you saw a man sliping into insanity litteraly, he suffered with schizophrenia and didnt get proper treatment in time. Why is it so hard for people to understand what a psychosis is? that man was out of his mind no sane person could have sustained dog bites, partially cracked skull and multiple tasings."He dosent look remorsful" wow didnt know we had a body language expert in the comments.
No, insanity is the cause of less than one percent of murders. Insane isn't just an insult, it has an actual medical definition.
This case gave me a panic attack and made me lock the deadbolt. Absolutely terrifying and sad.
It should be guilty by reason of insanity…guilty…he did it…he’s guilty whether he’s sane or not. Either way he needs to be locked up for life wherever he ends up.
It's called not guilty because he did not make the decisions that led to the incident.
the question isn’t is he guilty or not they caught him doing it the question is actually is he liable to take full responsibility and consequence which he was not because he was having a psychotic episode and he was showing signs for a while and no one did anything about it it sucks for the victims family but that’s not his fault he clearly has issues and the drugs made it worse
Being guilty is being self-aware. You're stupid if you don't know this and be completely one-sided of his mental illness.
He was sane enough to say he was eating their face! Come on!!!
Well , here we go again with murder. Allowed to kill
Do you know what bath salts are? He took a drug that makes u zombie like psycho like behavior
@@weenabeata Yes, I have heard about that nasty drug. I seen it in action twice. Totally out of it not s good thing
@@webspider5601 this bath salt made 2 incidents this one and another one from a man that took them as well named Rudy Eugene and he needed up eating a homeless man face acting like a whole zombie
@@weenabeata oh my gosh. Is there a way of getting rid of this drug ??? Probably not. It's just sad ,.
@@webspider5601 Except that's not true. If you looked into the case you'd find they tested for drugs and found only trace amounts. Drugs didn't cause this.
Usually i call bs when the use the insanity excuse but this guy was a rare and genuine case and was insane 💀 bro was literally just focused on eating that guys face in that moment, even with a k9 ripping him apart
I don’t care if he was crazy, he needs to be locked up! Forever. This man is beyond dangerous and nobody seems to care because poor him? Nah.
Passionately!? Ur kidding me, right?! They spoke with such depth of hate, it's scary!! Victims family needs as much help as Austin.
Do you think it’s wrong to hate the criminals family for allowing this monster to exist? What if it was your family member that was pointlessly murdered. It’s personal as it should be.
@@alexisvaldez-horvath6153 yes I do think it's totally wrong to hate the criminals family. They didn't commit the crime. And what parent considers their child going crazy as a answer to their odd ball behavior? Not very many.
So sad that money will buy you freedom no matter what the cost to the victim/victims. That judge needs to be sentenced and his parents should have been fixed years ago. Pathetic that this world has turned into one big toilet full of $hitty, cold, heartless, souless monsters and we are all going down the drain.
what money bought him his freedom, i don't get this line of thinking. his lawyer was probably a state lawyer so he had no care either way, the judge is paid to do his job, you know to be impartial and fair.
i hate to break it to you but feelings don't dictate the outcome thank god.
Let this be a lesson to everyone in America to be strapped no matter your state laws. The police ain’t gone save you when demons like this dirtbag come to eat your face 🔫
This kid ate a face what are you talking about I've done drugs my whole life and never tho about eating someone ... This kid is insane and judge made a good call
How should his parents have been fixed?? You've actually got me curious on what you meant lol.
@@Alcyone.Pleiades tf? I dono, maybe done something about all the CLEAR AS DAY signs that their son was batshit insane. kinda like all these batshit insane people defending this dude like he's a victim himself, its horrifying society has fallen this far in to worshipping mental illness.
It really is crazy how the parents didn’t get him help asap:(
What's crazier, is how common it is. I dated someone who struggled with depression, and her parents acted like it was a joke.
Drugs..in any form do NOT treat mental illness. They may mask the symptoms wherein illegal narcotic use will make the condition even worse. RIP
Sorry they lost his life I’m glad he’s getting HELP because jail won’t help and until people understand mental illness is real we will continue to hear cases like this
He was the real life Hannibal Lector
He wasn’t a drug addict or anything, he is mentally unstable he has been acting out of this world for a long time before the incident. This case is a case of mental health neglect, people who are close to him are the ones to blame, they knew about his mental state for a long time yet they never toke action and gave him the proper help he needed.
People are so stupid, even the victims' family members
Wtf
Exactly what I'm thinking.
Agreed
What a joke. Justice system is broken
Money talks obviously and it's a shame because the victims family gets absolutely no justice 😔
He needs to be put down like when a dog has rabies.
This has nothing to do with money. The kid was literally having a psychotic break. His parents failed him. It’s sad for everybody. I do feel bad for the guy.
Why do I feel this tragic story isn’t over yet…….??! 🤷♂️
Sounded like he was totally sane and just a druggie that needs to be put under the jail. Why did this freak get off? Who’s his family and what pull do they have? Texts show he was sane. Someone needs to lose their judge position, and the whole family needs to be incarcerated
What part of there were no drugs (more specifically no drugs that could cause what he did) in his system do you not understand?
he had Trace Amounts of THC and alcohol, barely even detectable which means he hadn't smoked in at least a month or two and he hadn't drank within the last few weeks.
The text do not prove he was sane whatsoever nor do they prove he is insane, it proves he's a typical teenager.
The victim's family is more of a POS than anybody in this case.
That lady read out all of his texts and Facebook messages out of hate and anger and literally all his messages were about was partying getting messed up and getting laid and that's what virtually every single teenage boy thinks about
@@YouAreTroll I understood it all, maybe you didn’t watch the entire vid like I did. He was a druggie that partied all the time, and a drunk. His brain was probably fried from all the alcohol and drugs
@@MyMysaysFU BAHAHAHAHAHA a little drugs and alcohol here and there does not turn people psychotic. what part of there was no drugs in his system at the time of the murder do you not understand? (except trace amounts of thc).
you are butthurt so you are going to keep replying with something illogical while slightly changing the subject lolololol
@@YouAreTroll nah, better do your research. He had a bad habit of drinking until he passed out, smoking pot, popping pills. Every day. His words read from his texts, by one of the victims family members “at the trial”. Law and crime probably has it somewhere. I think that’s where I saw it, live. Seek and help shall find
@@MyMysaysFU cool story bro
This is a wealthy mans son. I knew he wasnt going ro prison when i heard his fathers recorded jailhouse conversations. You can HEAR how serious his dad is when saying "i will spend WHATEVER I HAVE TO SPEND to get you out of there" i just knew that there was a mental institution in his future. Thats the way it goes here folks in this capitalist society that we live in.
His family should be in jail
I came here after seeing Mr. Ballen's story.
Even if one is insane. Eye for an eye
Extremely low vibrational take.
He chose to use drugs, so however, he acted on them, is still his responsibility
He didn't act on them, however. He only had trace amounts of THC and alcohol in his system at the time of the incident, so they would have had no influence.
The best judicial decision money can buy.
Obviously the family does not understand mental illness
WONDER if his parents will have him living with them 🤔
Not realizing they are on the menu, I can see this one being revisited in a couple years with another victim.
He’s in a secure facility, most likely for the rest of his life.
3:15 - “Because if you get out and I’m alive, I will call attention to it.”
Awesome quote. Powerful. Said so calmly.
He chose to take drugs. He’s guilty!
The “victims” are the real problem, they were given evidence that shows he was completely out of it and had absolutely no drugs in his system but rather then looking at the facts they just want to hate and hold on to the bitterness rather then trying to find help for people like Austin so these things don’t happen and by help I don’t mean send them to prison and treat them like an animal when the “victims” don’t even understand what it’s like to experience psychosis…..just another example of people who don’t care about the truth and just want somebody to hate
Are u feeling ok?? I can guarantee if that were your family u wouldn't be saying that. The nightmares they have of someone eating their family's face off. As far as drugs they will do crazy things and he has a small trace and had issues before for month with drugs. The same night drank chemicals and burned his inside so naturally wouldn't show up. I'm a big believer in mental health as alot of our family is on med for dep and anxiety, but the tale will tell while he is in Hospital without drugs. I'm pretty sure most family in their right mind wouldn't feel sorry for him
@@CR-qf1ddAs someone whose family has been on both sides of this situation where both the perp and the victim were family members, I 100% agree with OP. I understand the families’ pain, but their comments towards Austin and his family are completely uncalled for, and they show their ignorance of how psychosis can literally break a person mentally. Unless you see how complex severe mental illnesses like schizophrenia can completely break a person to the point where they’re out of their mind and murder someone (in our case, another family member), then on top of that, have the mental healthcare system completely fail that person, it is SO easy to talk bad about that person when in actuality, they aren’t monsters. They’re victims of their own mental illnesses, and unfortunately with the way the system works, no one can get proper help until someone gets hurt.
The reality is that Austin didn’t commit these murders. His schizophrenia did. Same with my family member when this same thing happened to them. It’s hard to understand if you haven’t been on that side of the equation, but if you’ve gone through it, you get it.
So, I’m gonna echo your statement here but coming from the other side of it (really, both sides, but I’m focusing on the perp side): if it was your family, you wouldn’t be saying that. This is one of those rare cases where people can and should feel sorry for both the victims and the perpetrator.
ah! would you chew our face
thinking we are devils when
you come outta institution?
That boy is headed for some major ECT therapy
This case gives me Nefarious (2023 movie) vibes....😳 May the victims family find peace for their soul.
Prayers for the two victims and their families such a horrible crime this animal has done . it's just as bad if not worse what the judicial system has done once again. This is sickening on so many different levels and is so unjust to the fullest so sad
Cry me a river all you want is revenge guy was clearly insane no sane human would have have sustained his injuries and kept attacking someone the pain from a dog ripping your arm open would be unimaginable he had a psychotic break
He was sick in the head. It would be different if he was a psychopath or sociopath. Pretty much a person who kills for pleasure or a person who kills for revenge. Austin was neither of those.
@@xenofanallen3218 Bath salts are extremely difficult to detect, and it’s very possible that he had been experimenting with some.
“Cry my a river”- not exactly the most thoughtful, mind provoking response
@@ogdistance9435 you really want to kill a man dont you
He's a victim as well
The victims' families are obviously stuck in the anger stage at this point in time while they process the fallout of this horror, and I hope they eventually move through it. Because to direct such hatred and vitriol toward a family who's worst sin was being a bit clueless about mental health (probably because it wasn't valued in their generation growing up), and a young man suffering from a horrific loss of mind reflects such an ugly hardness of heart.
If my dad had been eaten alive or my sister brutally unalived I would be completely devastated and traumatized, but I'd like to think I'd also have the compassion to understand this was the result of a terrible illness. To already have to suffer so much sadness and grief...why also harbor the extra weight of hatred? Let that part go and free yourselves of it.
Can't stand the way the court clerk kept craning her head like she's watching Days of our Lives.... @1:43 Also, nobody had sleep on this day. Austin was up for 24 hours straight and it appears the Mishcon's as well.
Mr Ballen brought me here
it's terrible what happened to the couple. but in this case i really think he had mental illness or a psychotic break that led him to this. he was tazed and dogs attacking him but he still didn't respond....that itself right there is telling he's not faking it. but the family of the victim has a right to be angry as no one wants that to happen to their family members.
yes but he had undiagnosed and unhelped schizophrenia
He looked a total 🔔 end singing along to let it be while wearing a scarf tied round his head as a blindfold
Because no cares about victim’s anymore only the criminals feelings matter. New future is lookn bright! 😢
the criminal is the victim today because society has actually gone insane.
He’s institutionalized probably for life. That is justice
@@a5tr4law nope it’s not justice better care better food more drugs. No justice in my opinion no proof of long term mental illness . nothing but drug use. he could be set free as well someday ?? SMH 🤦♀️ If someone did this to ur grandma and grandpa younwould not be say this. It’s was b.s insanity excuse.
@@a5tr4l Daddy told rich 🤑 boy he was cutting his money off . He got mad took drugs and mauled them old ppl to death. 💰
The insanity plea isn't a get out of jail free card, it's a ticket to a place with even less freedom than most prisons where you're stuck indefinitely if you aren't deemed able.
Am I the only one who is worried about the suspect family dog
Yeah but if he looked like me he definitely wouldn’t get “insane” so he better be glad. This is a joke
"looked like me"? you seriously think he got the insanity ruling because he's white? That's absurd. Not saying the judge was right, but I don't think it was a racial decision.
Very sadly that is true and that so called judge took full advantage of "Money Talks".
Stop making everything about your skin.
@@elijahpicklestein1718 It is true and you know it. Statics show that black people are the least likely people to get an insanity plea. The most likely people just happen to be finically well of white women.
@@rammlane7101 I believe the financially well off part but the white part no the only color that matters is green,poor white people go to prison all the time you're just cherry picking the cases to suit your narrative.
At the end of the day, we’re all a victim of whatever brain we were born with. Not every person has the mental capacity to choose right from wrong.
It’s tragic, but the reality is, there are many terrible situations in life where no one is fully at fault. This appears to be one of those sad cases.
Dont worry for his punishment,is not in this world, is in hell
Proof?
I doubt.
Definitely crazy. Don't think he should be released though - would anyone be comfortable on their porch with this guy in the area?
If he does end up getting released, he’s statistically not more likely to reoffend. It’s a very common myth that people like him would just end up back on the streets and redo the same crimes when none of the data backs that up. There are hundreds of cases in Canada and the US exactly like this who end up on monitored conditional release and never murder again.
And I have personal experience - I had a family member in the same situation. Never got in trouble with the law again, and we as a family never felt unsafe around them, nor did anyone else in the community. If anything, this is proof that hardcore rehab works better than prison for people who commit crimes (even murder) because of severe untreated mental illness.
This poor man. I'm not making his mental health problems an excuse but this guy must've been so troubled and paranoid to the point of murdering that couple. The mom and dad are BOTH just as guilty; the mom reported her son before it happened, but she didn't do it any other time? And the dad appeared on Dr. Phil just to get media attention, because who DOESN'T go on Dr. Phil for attention these days.... yeesh
🇿🇦🇿🇦, He will kill again and the next tine he does it , it will be his family . He saw how easy it is to get away with murder by acting insane . Am not just saying it , true true Austin will do it to his own family next time 🇿🇦🇿🇦
Do you dumbasses in the comments here just think people that get the insanity plea just walk out or something?
The insanity plea means you're sent to a secure mental facility with *even less freedom* than the majority of prisons.
You're in there until you're deemed fit to return to society. There are a vast amount of cases where people never leave.
Forgiveness is key people its the only way to move past stuff like this holding hate in your heart for a person won't make you any better than them an wishing a life of misery on someone is just as low in my opinion
Facts!
Lol let's see you suffer a worse fate from another person and then talk about forgiveness.
No I wouldnt forgive this monster. I'm sad the neighbor didn't have a gun so he could put this psychotic freak down like a rabid dog. It could of saved lives but instead now his maniac will eventually be released! I can only hope karma gets him now, Or maybe some good ol frontier justice 👍
That’s a very self righteous thing to say for someone who’s parents’ face weren’t bitten off
@sammihebert6493 Nope, it's not just a better way of looking at it and moving past things. Yeah, it's understandable that they could be angry but definitely won't help you out in the long run
Condolences to the victim's family. Btw, how can he eat human flesh so casually? I think he had a terrible childhood. This is why I refused having kids until I really want.
Ask your kids if they want you. Nobody wants to be here it’s just narcissists who force souls to be born into the flesh of this human hell. Keep the latex on your man’s Jack!
He was legally insane, as the verdict says. He literally said to the cops, please shoot me, I ate something bad. He had no idea what he was doing.
you think he had a terrible childhood, ugh everyone is a bloody psychiatrist on here. maybe just maybe there actually is something mentally wrong with him. hence the whole psychiatrist.
It’s called being extremely mentally I’ll. He had a normal childhood. Some people just have a major screw loose
He literally had a great childhood and did this
Do t really think the family should be addressing him being as he was found insane, what is insaine are those people screaming at a crazy person