I don't like when games do the "its an RPG so let's stretch it out as long as we can" I prefer a game with good pacing and story. Star Ocean V was 25 hours long but so shit and devoid of story it need to be at least 29 hours longer to develop an actual plot.
I just finished it and must say that I would appreciate it if someone gave the same developers about 10x the money they had to create this so they can start on a re-make right away. This game was despite all the flaws more immersive and atmospheric than all the big budget JRPGs I've played the past decade.
Exactly, I was like...so should I buy it or not since I have no idea what Chrono Trigger was. It's like explaining what a lemon pie taste like by saying it taste like lemons to a person who never had a lemon.
keiichimorisato98 That's what I figured is true for a lot of people. Sure, Chrono Trigger has about the same playtime and can be gotten digitally for a lot less... but c'mon, $40 doesn't HAVE to give you 50+ Hours of gameplay, any game with over 30 hours is mostly padding anyways.
I'm quite frankly sick of padding in games myself. 30 hours is ideal for me, 20 hours is acceptable; especially if it's only $40. 50+ hours is just a chore.
It was way too late for me since I pre purchased it lol... I dont pre purchase games normally, actually I am Setsuna was the FIRST pre purchase I have done in Steam. :P
Everywhere I go: "$40 is too much for a 20 hour game" >Chrono Trigger is 20 hours or less and cost what would equal to about $100 today when adjusted for inflation Is it not the quality of the content and the amount of joy you get from the experience that's important? This is something that's wrong with much of the gaming community today. Game length tells you literally nothing about the quality of the game. Chrono Trigger is about 20 hours. Metal Gear Solid is about 10 hours. Shadow of the Colossus is about 5 hours. Does that mean anyone who payed for these games on release got ripped off? Are any of these games lower quality because of their length? It seems like the fun is irrelevant and all that matters is how much gameplay per dollar you're getting. People are entitled as fuck these days.
I agree completely. Especially when GTA fans complained about GTA 5 being the shortest in the series. First of all, I always get like....fifteen to twenty hours out of that game every time I play it. Second of all, don't you dare try to tell me that length alone is what makes GTA 4 a better game to you people. Yes, 4 may have been longer but it was also BORING. I'd rather have a short game that's fun than a long game that's insufferable to get through.
Gotta love those $60 dollar sandbox games that have you doing the same 3 things over and over but man, they have hundreds of hours of content, how do i know if i'm getting my moneys worth if i don't get those sweet 50 hacking minigames with a huge map filled with nothing and uninspired dungeons
Many of us played Chrono Trigger as a kids or young teenagers and it took much more time to us to figure out what to do than an adult if he plays the game right now. That's why most people remember Chrono Trigger as a long game. Also, it took me at least 10 hours to finish Shadow of Collossus for the first time. About the length of I am Setsuna, it wouldn't matter to me if it's because the story progresses faster(like in Chrono Trigger), but if it's because there are less story than in traditional JRPGs it would be disappointing.
Story of Tales of Symphonia with Chrono Trigger gameplay....5 hours in and its really good, im loving it so much especially since i just beat chrono trigger again last week
Setsuna is not only similar to Colette in Tales of Symphonia, they even use the same type of weapons to fight and theyre both supposed to be a sacrifice to save the world from monsters, its copied hard, yes, but its amazing
I see in the video that it has some sort of dialogue option, by any chance does it has multiple endings? or it just for different responce during conversation?
I never understand these comments. Some people dislike because they don't like the narrator or the content is presented in a way they don't like. I watched about 1 minute of an Onison video, disliked and contemplated shooting myself. I didn't have to watch the whole thing to understand it was bad for me. In the same way, some people watched this and instantly liked something about the video so they liked and some instantly hated it and disliked.
My main gripe with the game is that while emulating Chrono Trigger to a T, it somehow missed a primary element...the atmosphere. See, Chrono Trigger felt like a jolly, ass-kicking romp through space and time, because it was. You and your friends of various species fought through thick and thin, going for the gusto in an attempt to liberate the planet from its ultimate destruction. It felt really fast-paced, energetic, and...fun. Setsuna, on the other hand, seems to evoke a kind of melancholy atmosphere more evocative of recent JRPGs with its piano score and "Serene" environments, and I'm...not sure I like that. It's being done to death at this point, and just seems kinda generic. I don't want to be told that what I'm experiencing is beautiful. I want to feel the beauty through the experience. That's just my two cents.
it's an amazing jrpg with a girl with red hair, a blonde haired frog, and a man made of jello. then chrono trigger had copied them, but it ended up being more popular.
***** Bobobo-bo bo-bobo is probably the greatest thing to come out of anime to date. I insist you give it a gander. It revolves around a bunch of bald guys being beaten up by a guy using only his nose hairs.
i didnt follow this game at all during its development...surprised that the playable character isn't Setsuna though...kinda figured it would be from the title
Kotaku and Gamespot blatantly lied about this game in their reviews for some unknown reason, saying that leveling up didn't increase anything but HP and MP... But a minute of testing proves that those reviewers didn't play the game. People have been spreading that and it's provably false.
I was really happy to find this particular title among your "Before you buy videos" as I was considering buying it for my brothers birthday. And I think this video helped me decide :)
Just shows how far Jakes tone has come in the last 6 years. I'll be grabbing this on the golden week sale? Maybe a few videos on the sales gameranx guys n girls?
Gonna hold off on buying this for a bit. Not too stacked on money but I do want this game. The fact that the OST is made by a guy in his 18-22s that's completely piano makes me ecstatic to hear and makes me solely want to buy off just that. (A bit of a questionable reason but hey, it makes me happy that a guy near the same years as I am is doing what I want to do)
PS4 Sold 1 M units on launch day. Xbox One had just about the same sales. The Switch sold 1.5 M on launch day. 5 minutes of basic research tells you this. Try not to look like a fool by denying facts.
3:08 They're all Endir-ing enough. Eh? Eh? About what was said about the "junior high play," not only does the soundtrack remind me of grade school, but I went to a Waldorf school for kindergarten through first grade (if you look it up it'll sound more cultish than it is) and the visual style really reminds me of the toys we had there. So I didn't play video games back in the JRPG golden age, but this does throw me back to that same time.
This is what pisses me off about Squeenix, people have been asking for some good old fashioned JRPGS like the ones we grew up with and Square has been hesitant to do it. Now they make this which is a clear throwback to the SNES glory days but then charge $40 for a short 20 hour game, meaning for a lot of people its not going to be worth the cost which Squeenix will turn around and use it as reasoning why they dont bother bringing over/making old school JRPGs anymore. Would it have really hurt to throw in a ton of side quests or something to add to replayability to pad out that cost/complete ratio?
It's good enough for me that they listened and gave a JRPG that we wanted. you cry about $40 for a "short" 20 hour game, and most Triple-A games have 12 hours of gameplay or less for $60. and this game is made for those who grow up with this kind of game, those old enough to afford it, if not, wait for a sale.
Tharlon Jones Overwatch is an online shooter its not going to have a ton of content but its going to have a lot more replayability than a RPG and people are going to put a whole lot more than 20 hours into the game. $1/h shouldnt be mandatory but it is a good guideline and if Im paying $40 for something it had better give me a good value and a 20 hour RPG that while im sure the story is good the 1st time through Im betting theres not gonna be a lot of 2nd playthroughs, also consider the fact that this is an old school JRPG so how much of that 20 hours is grinding therefor getting even less value for your buck. Im probably going to get it if Square drops the price but they rarely put stuff on any kind of real sale and its a shame that they priced it the way they did because JRPGs are my favorite genre and theres not a ton of old school ones out there right now
Enjoying it so far. I have a lot of favorite parts, but I really like how they reward combat variety. You only get the good materials when you use your techs and mana and get fancy. I find myself actually using my mana and items instead of just stockpiling them.
I personally didn't like it, and am a JRPG fan, I felt the story was very lacking, and there was almost no character backstory, I also felt the combat was very dull, with not a lot of choice, quite disappointed, was really hyped for this game :(
how was the story lacking? there was definitely character backstory. I was super hyped for this as well, and for a low-budget game it turned out very well
I preordered this game and played it when it came out. I think I've put in ~70 hours into the game, and I've tried so hard to get interested in the game. To be honest, it was a disappointing experience compared to other JRPG's. The game is 100% focused on the main story, and I'd expected side quests with a non-linear story. In fact, whichever dialogue you choose, you're forced to go through the same passage anyways; the story does not change when you select a different dialogue. I also expected new monsters toward the end of the game, but as I get further in the game, there were only higher level versions of the same mobs. Fighting the same type of monsters gets old and tedious, especially those snowball riding squirrel-fucks. The characters weren't interesting, really. It seemed like Tokyo RPG Factory were portraying themselves as the characters, and I know for a fact that they're the most boring developers; a recent video of their AMA was so boring, I had muted the video and turned on subtitles instead. After several hours, the piano music gets old because, it's piano music and I expected drums or bass at least, like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy's soundtrack, but then again it's uniquely different from JRPGs I guess. Worst of all, there is a HUGE level/difficulty gap between the second-to-last boss and the rest of the game, and the only way to beat the last boss is to grind your way to level 50-60, because you won't be able to save near the end of the game. It felt as if it was rushed towards the end of the game, and I expected a much better ending. I had a lot of good hopes for this game, but it turned out to be second place of the most disappointing games I've ever played; No Man's Sky being the first.
I'm enjoying playing this game. One thing about Square-Enix, you can always count on a good story and good gameplay. It's not as good as Chrono Trigger but is still very good as an old school turn-based rpg with very good graphics. It's worth the price you pay for it.
"Gameranx presents another episode of Before You Buy. The show where were we give you some straight up gameplay and some first impressions of the latest games releasing." nailed it!
im not sure how popular shining force but it was the first and probably is still the best jrpg game i ever played (the original ones, not the sequels). i feel like it was a game that not many people have ever heard despite of how good it was. anyone else ever played/liked that game?
It should be noted that while there is no Vita release, if you have on PS4 you can play it through your Vita on the PS4. Basically the same thing if you have wifi
amazing JRPG and a real homage the old school snes ps1 jrpg games like chrono trigger i am really happy i got myself a ps4 over the other consoles to play these awsome JRPGs
so far i am loving i am setsuna. i never played a final fantasy game besides 13 (which tainted FF for me) and i never played chrono trigger, so comparing this game to chrono trigger and FF doesn't really mean anything to me. what made me buy it was how beautiful it was presented to me and the combat system intrigued me.
Bought it, played it, got addicted. The game is extremely addictive!! It's really good, the soundtrack is AMAZING! Definitely listen to the soundtrack for I am Setsuna.
I bought it because its been a while since I've played a Turn-Based RPG, and I really like those. So far I'm having a good time playing it. is it worth 40, not sure, will have to beat it first.
I've missed 90's rpg era, seaeching throughout whole map how to trigger que quests and Tech, Dual Tech and Triple Tech nostalgia they even reference Chrono Characters on some weapons and on a Story in the game. for some reason felt like i was in Chrono 12000BC (Zeal Empire). It's amazing. Glad i got this game.
I watched this video before starting the game yesterday, and thanks to you, 2:24 I gained two extra levels just to be able to beat the boss. Have I not done that, it would have been very difficult indeed.
This is the first time I see a "before you buy" before actually buying the game. Seeing as it's on sale for 19.99 on the eshop, I think I'll pick it up.
I've been burned out on the jrpg genre for awhile now but I gambled and spent the 40 bucks for this game and I do not regret it. It hits all points of old jrpgs and never feels like a grind.
I think im convinced. I really want to but I haven't played Chrono Trigger yet cause im not a huge fan of its art style. I know, kinda dumb, but the art is a big deal for me. Thanks Gameranx
I was hoping for a Vita copy, since the PS4 has had almost no games that weren't also released on the PS3 or PC, or a GOG release where I regularly pre-order my PC titles. I suppose I'll get it on Steam, eventually, once it's $8 or less. 80% off is my guideline for "buying" games from a company that can empty your library and leave you with no recourse against them, so it's pretty much GameFly for the PC in my eyes.
It's not bad and it is basically a love letter to Chrono Trigger, but there are some things taken from Suikoden as well. Particularly, the choices of dialog the main character could say. Also, people forget that you can easily beat Chrono Trigger in 15 hours with collecting the Rainbow Shell and doing every side quest.
I didn't even know about this game till yesterday and I'm so glad I got it, I've been wanting a game like this for awhile now, it's amazing definitely worth buying if you've been needing an old style rpg for a while
Looks intriguing and it does faintly spark some nostalgia through, as already mentioned, Crono Trigger, plus Breath of Fire, Lufia, and Lunar 2: Eternal Blue, to name a few. However, I feel I've played through a fair share of JRPGs that It'd be something I'd be more interested watching someone else play, rather than shell out a couple $20s.
Also scored Mario odyssey, Mario kart 8 , Mario super delux U all for 40 a piece last week during the Mario sale I’ve been killing it in 2019 looking for these sales I set aside some tax money and said I’m gonna hunt all the digital sales this year and see what I could save so far it’s been buchu bucks broskies .
The game is great! The only bad thing I would have to say is the tutorial at the beginning. I thought it was kinda lame and the game start very abruptly but other than that it is really good. I hope the game sells enough so that Tokyo RPG Factory release more old style rpgs.
I'm very excited to pick up this game.. The look of it is so appealing, and I love that it is so similar to Chrono Trigger, especially with the lack of a true successor to that most amazing game. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks for this review/insight.
I've never played a jrpg, but I'm very interested in getting into those. Should I play this? It looks great and I was excited when I saw that it was out!
The target audience for this game are mainly 90s kids who grew up with these RPG like myself. Back when we never had to use the qualifier of "J"RPG lol. I think 20hrs is good since most of us are going into 30s and 40s and we don't have much free time like we used to.
I bought it for 40 euro's. I'm really biased, because I simply love jrpg so this game kinda automatically appealed to me. I think it's a very beautiful game, although it's not that original (but that wasn't their intent I guess). The story was intriguing, the characters were interesting, the battlesystem was a direct and well done rip-off of chrono trigger and I personally loved the setting and music. I would have given this game a very high rating if it wasn't for the extremely underwhelming final boss and ending. All in all, I am Setsuna feels like a game with great potential, but should have gotten more story time and a less-rushed ending.
what. that penguin has such a scary mouth D: also that's pretty sad that there isn't a vita version :( +1 to the vita owning crowd. this game looks like fun I'll give it a go thanks for the first impressions of sorts :D?
This looks like a game that I would buy. On sale. For a steep discount. No but really this game looks pretty good, I'll definitely buy it. At a discounted price.
If you like the classic turn based combat RPG like older Final Fantasy series just buy this game. Well worth it. Good story. Makes me wish FF was still turned based.
It's funny, I see the shorter length as an upside! I always have trouble finishing long, drawn out JRPG's so 20 hours feels great to me.
I recommend this game if your a fan of the older ff games and Chrono Trigger
Im the polar opposite. 20 hours doesnt feel worth it at all if you want a good story. Just like a 13 episode anime..........
I remember my save file in Final Fantasy always going over 100 hours... ^_^
I don't like when games do the "its an RPG so let's stretch it out as long as we can" I prefer a game with good pacing and story. Star Ocean V was 25 hours long but so shit and devoid of story it need to be at least 29 hours longer to develop an actual plot.
i'm with you, that's why i never liked FF in the first place they are long and most of the characters are dumb
I just finished it and must say that I would appreciate it if someone gave the same developers about 10x the money they had to create this so they can start on a re-make right away. This game was despite all the flaws more immersive and atmospheric than all the big budget JRPGs I've played the past decade.
That moment when you've never played Chrono Trigger and therefore a lot of your comparisons are meaningless.
Then you are a very lucky person who can still experience the joy of playing Chrono Trigger for the first time!
Good point. It's still the best JRPG made in my opinion.
Exactly, I was like...so should I buy it or not since I have no idea what Chrono Trigger was. It's like explaining what a lemon pie taste like by saying it taste like lemons to a person who never had a lemon.
@@themris absolutely right. The first time i played it was one of the best experiences i have ever had
@@nefariouspulse9014 wtf? you mean the MOST BORING JRPG ever made
So people are fine with spending $12 to see a 2 hour movie in theatres once, but are against paying $40 for an 18 hour game that can be replayed?
i've paid more for less and worse.
keiichimorisato98 That's what I figured is true for a lot of people.
Sure, Chrono Trigger has about the same playtime and can be gotten digitally for a lot less... but c'mon, $40 doesn't HAVE to give you 50+ Hours of gameplay, any game with over 30 hours is mostly padding anyways.
Seacliff so true, i'd rather a tight 20 hours game than a 40 hours game with padding.
$12 for 1 ticket and $14 for concessions.
I'm quite frankly sick of padding in games myself. 30 hours is ideal for me, 20 hours is acceptable; especially if it's only $40. 50+ hours is just a chore.
Too late. I bought it.
SAME. MUAHAHA
It was way too late for me since I pre purchased it lol... I dont pre purchase games normally, actually I am Setsuna was the FIRST pre purchase I have done in Steam. :P
Me too.
its a great game. in my option.
Never been a fan of jrpg, but this actually looks interesting. I may buy it. Still needing to get Fairy Fencer F ._.
Under 20 hours is actually music to my ears.
same here.
People with fulltime jobs and busy weekends agree with you!
Everywhere I go: "$40 is too much for a 20 hour game"
>Chrono Trigger is 20 hours or less and cost what would equal to about $100 today when adjusted for inflation
Is it not the quality of the content and the amount of joy you get from the experience that's important? This is something that's wrong with much of the gaming community today. Game length tells you literally nothing about the quality of the game. Chrono Trigger is about 20 hours. Metal Gear Solid is about 10 hours. Shadow of the Colossus is about 5 hours. Does that mean anyone who payed for these games on release got ripped off? Are any of these games lower quality because of their length? It seems like the fun is irrelevant and all that matters is how much gameplay per dollar you're getting.
People are entitled as fuck these days.
Wow, I took a while to complete shadow of the collossus.
I agree completely. Especially when GTA fans complained about GTA 5 being the shortest in the series. First of all, I always get like....fifteen to twenty hours out of that game every time I play it. Second of all, don't you dare try to tell me that length alone is what makes GTA 4 a better game to you people. Yes, 4 may have been longer but it was also BORING. I'd rather have a short game that's fun than a long game that's insufferable to get through.
Gotta love those $60 dollar sandbox games that have you doing the same 3 things over and over but man, they have hundreds of hours of content, how do i know if i'm getting my moneys worth if i don't get those sweet 50 hacking minigames with a huge map filled with nothing and uninspired dungeons
Many of us played Chrono Trigger as a kids or young teenagers and it took much more time to us to figure out what to do than an adult if he plays the game right now. That's why most people remember Chrono Trigger as a long game.
Also, it took me at least 10 hours to finish Shadow of Collossus for the first time.
About the length of I am Setsuna, it wouldn't matter to me if it's because the story progresses faster(like in Chrono Trigger), but if it's because there are less story than in traditional JRPGs it would be disappointing.
I got Gone Home for free, really enjoyed it.
The developer's intent worked for me, as Chrono Trigger is my number one game of all time. The nostalgia is strong on this one.
Man, I bet you don't even Chrono Trigger as much as I have >->
i Chrono Triggered so hard
#Triggered
chrono trigger (9/10) - setsuna (3/10) --- played both complete (chrono 3x)
+Mathias Peter Koge never got the chance to play setsuna, but I still much rather would of wanted the chrono trigger sequel that was cancelled. ;-;
Story of Tales of Symphonia with Chrono Trigger gameplay....5 hours in and its really good, im loving it so much especially since i just beat chrono trigger again last week
Setsuna is not only similar to Colette in Tales of Symphonia, they even use the same type of weapons to fight and theyre both supposed to be a sacrifice to save the world from monsters, its copied hard, yes, but its amazing
I see in the video that it has some sort of dialogue option, by any chance does it has multiple endings? or it just for different responce during conversation?
But Tales of isn't from Square :3
Yea Tales of isnt from square but that doesnt mean its not alike in any way
congrats , the PS1 version? you know about the various endings too ?
lmao video posted 4 min ago and its 6min long but still there is a dislike
XDD someone watched at double speed and didnt like it...
suuuuure "Watched" :D
You can say the things about likes
Or some hater disliked the vid before watching
LOL
I never understand these comments. Some people dislike because they don't like the narrator or the content is presented in a way they don't like.
I watched about 1 minute of an Onison video, disliked and contemplated shooting myself. I didn't have to watch the whole thing to understand it was bad for me.
In the same way, some people watched this and instantly liked something about the video so they liked and some instantly hated it and disliked.
For anyone watching this video before 6/18/19, it's 60% off on Switch rn. Probably just go get it for $16.
I am Setsuna, I AM GUNDAAAM!!!
I AM
JOHN CHEEEENAAAAAA
Finally someone
TRANS AM!
But are you really?
i renamed Endir into Exia
10/10 would recommend to friends
My main gripe with the game is that while emulating Chrono Trigger to a T, it somehow missed a primary element...the atmosphere.
See, Chrono Trigger felt like a jolly, ass-kicking romp through space and time, because it was. You and your friends of various species fought through thick and thin, going for the gusto in an attempt to liberate the planet from its ultimate destruction. It felt really fast-paced, energetic, and...fun.
Setsuna, on the other hand, seems to evoke a kind of melancholy atmosphere more evocative of recent JRPGs with its piano score and "Serene" environments, and I'm...not sure I like that. It's being done to death at this point, and just seems kinda generic. I don't want to be told that what I'm experiencing is beautiful. I want to feel the beauty through the experience.
That's just my two cents.
I know exactly what you mean, kind of like when earthbound clones try to match Earthbound's quirky style but never quite get it
+Noah Mamet, I didn't like how it was only piano, either. It felt fine for the environment, but not for intense battles.
+jaime ruiz, Y-Yeah...not that I wanted to...you know, play I Am Setsuna all the way through or anything...
Loved JRPGs back in the day. To be fair, though, a lot of the "length" of some of those was level grinding. Which I do not miss.
What's this Chrano Trigger you speak of? I only know of Chrono Trigger.
it's an amazing jrpg with a girl with red hair, a blonde haired frog, and a man made of jello. then chrono trigger had copied them, but it ended up being more popular.
Are you sure you're not thinking of that one anime with the guy who fights with his nose hairs? You know, Bobobo-bo bo-bobo?
+Edlind404 lmao
***** Sorry to shoot a dead horse, whatever that means, but I've only seen the Bobobo anime.
***** Bobobo-bo bo-bobo is probably the greatest thing to come out of anime to date. I insist you give it a gander. It revolves around a bunch of bald guys being beaten up by a guy using only his nose hairs.
i didnt follow this game at all during its development...surprised that the playable character isn't Setsuna though...kinda figured it would be from the title
Another homage to Nintendo.
Fire emblem fates?
Fire emblem fates?
Fire emblem fates?
Just like Legend of Link :)
Kotaku and Gamespot blatantly lied about this game in their reviews for some unknown reason, saying that leveling up didn't increase anything but HP and MP... But a minute of testing proves that those reviewers didn't play the game. People have been spreading that and it's provably false.
I'm in Asia right now and the game is fully playable in English. It's dope, definitely pick it up.
Most triple A titles dont even last 10 hours, lel.
SpitFire GitGud buy the xenoblade series
SpitFire GitGud cries in fe3h
@@anwarakkad4020 fe3h?
I was really happy to find this particular title among your "Before you buy videos" as I was considering buying it for my brothers birthday. And I think this video helped me decide :)
This definitely tickles my JRPG fancy.
Just shows how far Jakes tone has come in the last 6 years. I'll be grabbing this on the golden week sale? Maybe a few videos on the sales gameranx guys n girls?
"Feels exactly like Chronotrigger"
Sold.
i can't get past the pointed feet of the characters... why? feels like a cop-out in character design.
Gonna hold off on buying this for a bit. Not too stacked on money but I do want this game. The fact that the OST is made by a guy in his 18-22s that's completely piano makes me ecstatic to hear and makes me solely want to buy off just that. (A bit of a questionable reason but hey, it makes me happy that a guy near the same years as I am is doing what I want to do)
Did you know that I Am Setsuna will come to the Switch as a launch title?
I'm getting it for the Switch. That piano music just won me over.
0hpitym3 it sold out...
0hpitym3
You did see that it's launch was more successful than any other console...right?
PS4 Sold 1 M units on launch day.
Xbox One had just about the same sales.
The Switch sold 1.5 M on launch day.
5 minutes of basic research tells you this. Try not to look like a fool by denying facts.
0hpitym3 lol six months later not so much dead.
3:08 They're all Endir-ing enough. Eh? Eh?
About what was said about the "junior high play," not only does the soundtrack remind me of grade school, but I went to a Waldorf school for kindergarten through first grade (if you look it up it'll sound more cultish than it is) and the visual style really reminds me of the toys we had there. So I didn't play video games back in the JRPG golden age, but this does throw me back to that same time.
zelda botw, super bomberman r, and i am setsuna for switch in March!
ApolloRED Just got Bomberman. Replay value is insane.
This is what pisses me off about Squeenix, people have been asking for some good old fashioned JRPGS like the ones we grew up with and Square has been hesitant to do it. Now they make this which is a clear throwback to the SNES glory days but then charge $40 for a short 20 hour game, meaning for a lot of people its not going to be worth the cost which Squeenix will turn around and use it as reasoning why they dont bother bringing over/making old school JRPGs anymore. Would it have really hurt to throw in a ton of side quests or something to add to replayability to pad out that cost/complete ratio?
No kidding. I don't see the reasoning behind the expensive cost: piano soloist soundtrack, rehashed game elements, simple graphics, etc.
I agree
tbh there's way more content in this game than say overwatch for the same price...
It's good enough for me that they listened and gave a JRPG that we wanted. you cry about $40 for a "short" 20 hour game, and most Triple-A games have 12 hours of gameplay or less for $60.
and this game is made for those who grow up with this kind of game, those old enough to afford it, if not, wait for a sale.
Tharlon Jones
Overwatch is an online shooter its not going to have a ton of content but its going to have a lot more replayability than a RPG and people are going to put a whole lot more than 20 hours into the game. $1/h shouldnt be mandatory but it is a good guideline and if Im paying $40 for something it had better give me a good value and a 20 hour RPG that while im sure the story is good the 1st time through Im betting theres not gonna be a lot of 2nd playthroughs, also consider the fact that this is an old school JRPG so how much of that 20 hours is grinding therefor getting even less value for your buck.
Im probably going to get it if Square drops the price but they rarely put stuff on any kind of real sale and its a shame that they priced it the way they did because JRPGs are my favorite genre and theres not a ton of old school ones out there right now
Too many cute pengies died in this video for me to want to play the game
always love these 'Before you Buy" videos!
so far this game is everything I was expecting from it, just a great classic RPG game
a classic JRPG with all the warts of a classic JRPG
Enjoying it so far. I have a lot of favorite parts, but I really like how they reward combat variety. You only get the good materials when you use your techs and mana and get fancy. I find myself actually using my mana and items instead of just stockpiling them.
I thought this was a fire emblem video
lol me too
Can't you guys read titles?
azzzzazazzzaza nah, because of the thumbnail
azzzzazazzzaza Setsuna is a character from fire emblem Since I was notified on my phone I didn't see the thumbnail
i knew what this was, but i compared it to fire emblem almost the entire video lol
I'm watching this video since I plan on buying this during Steam's Black Friday sale... and it does have that Chrono Trigger feel to it
I got this game and have to say, it was worth it. Really enjoy it.
Your current profile picture reminds me of the "picnic memory" from Vagrant Story. ^_^
Holy shit, where did this come from? Oh the sweet taste of nostalgia.
wait for it to go on sale then buy it.
or pirate it
Good idea
I would pay 20 but idk about full price just yet
no thanks, I personally like being a terrible person ;P
Do what I do. Torrent it then buy it when you aren't generally poor and feel like doing one small good deed :P
I grew up playing Square's classic RPGs and I am super excited to see this. I haven't been a fan of their content since FFX. This looks wonderful.
i thought was ' I am setSÚna ' haha
Omfg, I've been waiting for this video. What have you done to me gameranx? I won't buy a game without serious reviews now I'm crying!
I personally didn't like it, and am a JRPG fan, I felt the story was very lacking, and there was almost no character backstory, I also felt the combat was very dull, with not a lot of choice, quite disappointed, was really hyped for this game :(
how was the story lacking? there was definitely character backstory. I was super hyped for this as well, and for a low-budget game it turned out very well
I gotta admit, Before you buy is the absolute best series I see about gaming reviews.
I'd give this game 20$, tops
Same.
They are new creaters. They need to make money ASAP.
I'd say 30
Second
being a new creator dosent make their product worth more.....
I put this in my cart and took it out and put it back in through out the entire video.
Chrono trigger is still better.
I'm one of the ten people with a PS Vita. Haven't played it in so long, there are few fun games.
Just use it to remote play your PS4.
+Kailen Coghlan yeah I use remote play when I'm in bed or in the kitchen, it's pretty useful if you got decent internet.
+Kailen Coghlan not everyone has a PS4
I'm also one of the ten. I've been using it to play ps1 jrgs mostly. I was really hoping that this would come out for the vita.
Have you played Danganronpa,Disgaea,or Persona?
I love JRPGs, but I'm not picking this up at $40. Maybe around $20.
I definitely want to buy this game. I just dont know if it'd be better on ps4 or PC right now.
I preordered this game and played it when it came out. I think I've put in ~70 hours into the game, and I've tried so hard to get interested in the game. To be honest, it was a disappointing experience compared to other JRPG's. The game is 100% focused on the main story, and I'd expected side quests with a non-linear story. In fact, whichever dialogue you choose, you're forced to go through the same passage anyways; the story does not change when you select a different dialogue. I also expected new monsters toward the end of the game, but as I get further in the game, there were only higher level versions of the same mobs. Fighting the same type of monsters gets old and tedious, especially those snowball riding squirrel-fucks. The characters weren't interesting, really. It seemed like Tokyo RPG Factory were portraying themselves as the characters, and I know for a fact that they're the most boring developers; a recent video of their AMA was so boring, I had muted the video and turned on subtitles instead.
After several hours, the piano music gets old because, it's piano music and I expected drums or bass at least, like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy's soundtrack, but then again it's uniquely different from JRPGs I guess.
Worst of all, there is a HUGE level/difficulty gap between the second-to-last boss and the rest of the game, and the only way to beat the last boss is to grind your way to level 50-60, because you won't be able to save near the end of the game. It felt as if it was rushed towards the end of the game, and I expected a much better ending. I had a lot of good hopes for this game, but it turned out to be second place of the most disappointing games I've ever played; No Man's Sky being the first.
You played a game for 70 hours before you realized you weren't interested in it? Why?
You put 70 hours into a 20 hour game and found nothing to like about it? I call bullshit or you have a sad empty life.
I'm enjoying playing this game. One thing about Square-Enix, you can always count on a good story and good gameplay. It's not as good as Chrono Trigger but is still very good as an old school turn-based rpg with very good graphics. It's worth the price you pay for it.
"Gameranx presents another episode of Before You Buy. The show where were we give you some straight up gameplay and some first impressions of the latest games releasing." nailed it!
I actually just reviewed this game a lot harsher than you did. you went so easy on it!
The length is NOT a letdown in my opinion. My favorite games from the golden era of gaming could be finished in a day, even Chrono Trigger.
im not sure how popular shining force but it was the first and probably is still the best jrpg game i ever played (the original ones, not the sequels). i feel like it was a game that not many people have ever heard despite of how good it was. anyone else ever played/liked that game?
It should be noted that while there is no Vita release, if you have on PS4 you can play it through your Vita on the PS4. Basically the same thing if you have wifi
amazing JRPG and a real homage the old school snes ps1 jrpg games like chrono trigger
i am really happy i got myself a ps4 over the other consoles to play these awsome JRPGs
Waited to see if you'd do this, but bought it before - no regrets, only played an hour and totally love it already.
Only 20 hours?.. I was totally going to get it. Thanks for the warning that it seriously lacks content.
20 hours lacking content...... Well for a jrpg I guess it isn't alot, however it's still better than a 6 hour game that is mostly cut scenes
I want to sit for a physical copy! Maybe Limited Run Games might have it one day.
Straight up this is my favorite gaming news channel. keep it up guys.
so far i am loving i am setsuna. i never played a final fantasy game besides 13 (which tainted FF for me) and i never played chrono trigger, so comparing this game to chrono trigger and FF doesn't really mean anything to me. what made me buy it was how beautiful it was presented to me and the combat system intrigued me.
I have been waiting for a game that plays like this for a very long time. I will be picking it up asap when I get paid this upcoming Friday.
Bought it, played it, got addicted. The game is extremely addictive!! It's really good, the soundtrack is AMAZING! Definitely listen to the soundtrack for I am Setsuna.
And for the fans of the Mana series, there is Adventures of Mana to play on both Vita and PS4
I bought it because its been a while since I've played a Turn-Based RPG, and I really like those. So far I'm having a good time playing it. is it worth 40, not sure, will have to beat it first.
Thank you for this video I was skeptical on buying this but now I will ! Keep up de good work dad
I've missed 90's rpg era, seaeching throughout whole map how to trigger que quests and Tech, Dual Tech and Triple Tech nostalgia they even reference Chrono Characters on some weapons and on a Story in the game. for some reason felt like i was in Chrono 12000BC (Zeal Empire). It's amazing. Glad i got this game.
I watched this video before starting the game yesterday, and thanks to you, 2:24 I gained two extra levels just to be able to beat the boss. Have I not done that, it would have been very difficult indeed.
This is the first time I see a "before you buy" before actually buying the game. Seeing as it's on sale for 19.99 on the eshop, I think I'll pick it up.
Update the description to include le switch ;)
It's a really great game, if too short. I want more
It's on ps plus now I finally get to play this . I've wanted to play it since before it released
I've been burned out on the jrpg genre for awhile now but I gambled and spent the 40 bucks for this game and I do not regret it. It hits all points of old jrpgs and never feels like a grind.
I pre-ordered it, also completely stopped playing halo 5 on my Xbox and Star Ocean 5 on my PS4, because I love this game.
Thanks! I really appreciate the "Before You Buy" series.
I generally like your videos before I watch. Thank you Gameranx
I ain't played a JRPG in years, I got really bored of them. But the more I look at this and your vid. The more I really want to play it.
I think im convinced. I really want to but I haven't played Chrono Trigger yet cause im not a huge fan of its art style. I know, kinda dumb, but the art is a big deal for me. Thanks Gameranx
I was hoping for a Vita copy, since the PS4 has had almost no games that weren't also released on the PS3 or PC, or a GOG release where I regularly pre-order my PC titles.
I suppose I'll get it on Steam, eventually, once it's $8 or less. 80% off is my guideline for "buying" games from a company that can empty your library and leave you with no recourse against them, so it's pretty much GameFly for the PC in my eyes.
It's not bad and it is basically a love letter to Chrono Trigger, but there are some things taken from Suikoden as well. Particularly, the choices of dialog the main character could say. Also, people forget that you can easily beat Chrono Trigger in 15 hours with collecting the Rainbow Shell and doing every side quest.
I didn't even know about this game till yesterday and I'm so glad I got it, I've been wanting a game like this for awhile now, it's amazing definitely worth buying if you've been needing an old style rpg for a while
That music sounded like one of the songs from FF9. They played it a lot during panic situations, like when the evil forest is coming after you.
Looks intriguing and it does faintly spark some nostalgia through, as already mentioned, Crono Trigger, plus Breath of Fire, Lufia, and Lunar 2: Eternal Blue, to name a few. However, I feel I've played through a fair share of JRPGs that It'd be something I'd be more interested watching someone else play, rather than shell out a couple $20s.
Also scored Mario odyssey, Mario kart 8 , Mario super delux U all for 40 a piece last week during the Mario sale I’ve been killing it in 2019 looking for these sales I set aside some tax money and said I’m gonna hunt all the digital sales this year and see what I could save so far it’s been buchu bucks broskies .
Having never played a jrpg, let alone Chrono Trigger, this game does look very interesting.
The game is great! The only bad thing I would have to say is the tutorial at the beginning. I thought it was kinda lame and the game start very abruptly but other than that it is really good. I hope the game sells enough so that Tokyo RPG Factory release more old style rpgs.
Seeing that face on Jake is perfect.
*Let it stay that way.*
I'm very excited to pick up this game.. The look of it is so appealing, and I love that it is so similar to Chrono Trigger, especially with the lack of a true successor to that most amazing game. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks for this review/insight.
I've never played a jrpg, but I'm very interested in getting into those. Should I play this? It looks great and I was excited when I saw that it was out!
I'm honestly enjoying it a lot. don't know why people are hating on it.
The target audience for this game are mainly 90s kids who grew up with these RPG like myself. Back when we never had to use the qualifier of "J"RPG lol.
I think 20hrs is good since most of us are going into 30s and 40s and we don't have much free time like we used to.
looks really comforting.. little trip here after darksouls could heal..
Its soundtrack was one of it's main highlights
I bought it for 40 euro's. I'm really biased, because I simply love jrpg so this game kinda automatically appealed to me. I think it's a very beautiful game, although it's not that original (but that wasn't their intent I guess). The story was intriguing, the characters were interesting, the battlesystem was a direct and well done rip-off of chrono trigger and I personally loved the setting and music. I would have given this game a very high rating if it wasn't for the extremely underwhelming final boss and ending. All in all, I am Setsuna feels like a game with great potential, but should have gotten more story time and a less-rushed ending.
what. that penguin has such a scary mouth D: also that's pretty sad that there isn't a vita version :( +1 to the vita owning crowd. this game looks like fun I'll give it a go thanks for the first impressions of sorts :D?
Just got this from the Black Friday sale on PSN for 26 dollars. Glad I held out on buying it for 40
Dashaan Dunn lol now im thinking of getting it for the switch on blaxk friday or cyber Monday
This looks like a game that I would buy. On sale. For a steep discount.
No but really this game looks pretty good, I'll definitely buy it.
At a discounted price.
If you like the classic turn based combat RPG like older Final Fantasy series just buy this game. Well worth it. Good story. Makes me wish FF was still turned based.
I enjoyed it, but it really felt like there were pieces of the puzzle missing. It felt empty at a few points.
This game is a love letter to Chrono Trigger and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. Why don't we get games like this anymore. T.T
Did you guys ever talk about Ara Fell? If you have not then you should. It is an amazing game