Gyle i have to say that you are the most talented commentator i have ever seen and i spend lots of time watching your FAF Casts although i have never played this game!
That was freaking awesome and i myself would love to see some more game changing mods or more phantom replays. This was yet another great cast gyle and cant wait for more. Great to see you back in action
I haven't played or watched a Phantom game before but I must say I like what I see. I wouldn't mind seeing more Phantoms and/or more videos with three or more teams because I love the shaky balance of power that plays into them.
The standing chicken wreck is a glitch: if it gets killed while it's also being reclaimed, it won't die properly and you avoid the whole death ball thing. Probably not intentional by the designers, but accepted.
If you do that 4 gateway setup with five t3 fabs and t2 fabs everywhere else you can get SCUs for a massive discount (something like 60% or more off the mass cost). Turn the fabs off to save power and the adj bonus remains. I think its about 20% discount with 1 fab in the center.
the reason why lemming doesn't play like a 800 is because, in phantom, he isn't 800. all lemming does is play phantom, I've seen him play and been in the same phantom game as him many times. he rarely looses. HEAVY is a regular phantom player too,though not as good. rank doesn't mean much in phantomX, I've been destroyed by people well below my rank before even when I'm the phantom and have the recourse bonuses.
The gateways had four mass a second saved total which means that as I'm guessing he had them before about forty minutes or so he saved 9600 mass, assuming that he had them all running for the entire game. This, as compared to a possible +6 extra mass bonus from surrounding it in mass storage instead, which, over the same forty minute period generates 2400 more mass. Or even more efficiently, with 30 t2's, generating an entire 30 mass a second, earning a whole 72,000 mass for the same input.
Would be very useful since it reduces the cost per a tick for the unit so it would build faster while in a mass deficit. Also with resources almost doubled fabbing makes sense. The bomb part is the main issue
Ahhh I thought this game was taken offline long ago. Thought about it and looked up the game yesterday on here and came across these videos. Need to get my gaming PC fixed so I can jump in on this action >.< Supreme Commander is the best! Also I love this cast. Thought it was TotalBiscuit when I first heard the british accent lol
I would like to say that this "phantom" game cast is awesome and I would love to see many more. A small thing Gyle, is maybe get a match where 2+ innocents are alive to battle with but still, it was awesome. Hope to see some more.
You have to download the FAF client. It is a community based services. There are a lot of people playing, with nice match making system and ranking ect.
Gyle, coming back to this as we haven't seen any other Phantom match. Could you consider doing another one? I know you're currently unwell so it doesn't have to be asap, but whenever you want. Loved this when it came out and watching it again now because it was awesome! Keep up the great casts Gyle! Love em a lot!
Finally, a game which, in its form, resembles the ultimate metaphysical war between good and evil, in that it is game of "who is who", of petty confusion and cruel deception, of taking advantage of those in your own "secret group", but sometimes making deals with them to annihilate "innocents" who may swing the game in some way.
15:50 I don't think he dropped on purpose. All the chat up to that point was lag being caused by him, so I guess the bad connection took him down. Which sucks, because I'm pretty sure he was also the Paladin.
Gyle: when a chicken dies while being reclaimed, the ion storm doesn't happen. If you watch closely, you'll notice that an scu breaks off building ravagers to start reclaiming the chicken
You'd think they'd have the capacity to construct game enders in these things. If you churn out Atlantis at that rate and have 300k reclaim, any lull could be utilized to start producing a Mavor I'd say.
This is jcroffor (now Gilgalad). We built T3 arty. Unless it is Cybran (T3 arty range goes Aeon>Seraphim>UEF>Cybran), it can reach all of the islands and starts firing, and doing damage, in 1/3 the time. Building Atlantis was a good idea because Seraphim cannot build T3 sonar (you can hide your air production easily as T2 sonar cannot be used for scouting because it is immobile). It also provided AA and naval defense, allowing him to be flexible given his lack of potential bases (I had an advantage in terms of artillery and nukes, making rebuilding bases a difficult proposition).
I don't play the game personally but love to watch it, but i do have one question. Wtf is the paragon and what does it do? Thanks to any one who can help!
I can't believe you don't know about the ythotha ion storm reclaim effect...if your units reclaiming the ythotha causes it to die, it doesn't have an ion storm
Played my first Phantom match the other day and was Paladin. Tried to nuke a Phantom without breaking the alliance first so he seen me launch it right at his ACU and moved out of the way. Noobie mistake. Still got some T3 Arty up and helped defeat a second Phantom that sent a fleet towards my Ravagers. :D But Gyle, could you cast a LAB wars match?
Red should have built up his nukes and navy waited until purple was guaranteed dead then snipe the SMD at blue and rained nukes while his navy kills his com if the nukes didn't kill him
Damn! One of the best I've seen in a long while... I friggin' love Average Joes... So on another note Gyle, how about blackops, the mod's looking pretty good... I remember you saying you don't cast it because you don't get good replays of it but come on seriously after all this time... It gives people so much to play with... Need Blackops Cast
Nice game, I was hoping I'd get to see a phantom match. I was hoping for a more diplomatic/paranoia scenario, though, with innocents accusing each other of being a phantom and phantoms causing general chaos. Would have been sweet to see.
I don't play this game, but I analyse a lot of these vids because I love strategy ;), even the epic ones. In my opinion, this one is the MOST epic I've seen so far... Greatest respect to Lemming_King! and Great respect to others ;)
you know because of the x2 res that opens some absurd ideas that might actually work. step 1: paragon in your own base step 2: build a shiton of support coms. step 3: build paragons int he enemy base and control k them. absurd ideas are absurd but make it far more fun even if they won't ever work. i would do it because why the hell not. if nothing else the explosion of all the support commanders will soften up the entire base
You can buy the base version of Forged Alliance through Steam for fairly cheap. After that, you can download FAF from their site in the description of this video.
If you start reclaiming chickens immediately after they die, the ion storm is turned off.
"Did he take out the nuke defense?"
"Strategic Launch Detected"
"HAH!"
44:30 LOVE that comedic timing... lmao!
Gyle i have to say that you are the most talented commentator i have ever seen and i spend lots of time watching your FAF Casts although i have never played this game!
+Milch Bart it is like 10 $ on steam and the FAF client is free. Come play dude!
That was freaking awesome and i myself would love to see some more game changing mods or more phantom replays. This was yet another great cast gyle and cant wait for more. Great to see you back in action
love this game type please do more
Gyle, thanks for the casts, better than anything on TV!
I haven't played or watched a Phantom game before but I must say I like what I see. I wouldn't mind seeing more Phantoms and/or more videos with three or more teams because I love the shaky balance of power that plays into them.
The standing chicken wreck is a glitch: if it gets killed while it's also being reclaimed, it won't die properly and you avoid the whole death ball thing. Probably not intentional by the designers, but accepted.
If you do that 4 gateway setup with five t3 fabs and t2 fabs everywhere else you can get SCUs for a massive discount (something like 60% or more off the mass cost). Turn the fabs off to save power and the adj bonus remains. I think its about 20% discount with 1 fab in the center.
the reason why lemming doesn't play like a 800 is because, in phantom, he isn't 800. all lemming does is play phantom, I've seen him play and been in the same phantom game as him many times. he rarely looses.
HEAVY is a regular phantom player too,though not as good. rank doesn't mean much in phantomX, I've been destroyed by people well below my rank before even when I'm the phantom and have the recourse bonuses.
The gateways had four mass a second saved total which means that as I'm guessing he had them before about forty minutes or so he saved 9600 mass, assuming that he had them all running for the entire game. This, as compared to a possible +6 extra mass bonus from surrounding it in mass storage instead, which, over the same forty minute period generates 2400 more mass. Or even more efficiently, with 30 t2's, generating an entire 30 mass a second, earning a whole 72,000 mass for the same input.
Would be very useful since it reduces the cost per a tick for the unit so it would build faster while in a mass deficit. Also with resources almost doubled fabbing makes sense.
The bomb part is the main issue
Ahhh I thought this game was taken offline long ago. Thought about it and looked up the game yesterday on here and came across these videos. Need to get my gaming PC fixed so I can jump in on this action >.< Supreme Commander is the best!
Also I love this cast. Thought it was TotalBiscuit when I first heard the british accent lol
If the last damage ist done by reclaiming, the chicken does not release an ion storm. there was a support com. beneath it, when it went down.
It is in the FAF map vault, see the link in the description.
For the chicken ion storm part if you want to prevent those reclaim the chicken as it's dying and it prevents the ion storm from being released
I would like to say that this "phantom" game cast is awesome and I would love to see many more. A small thing Gyle, is maybe get a match where 2+ innocents are alive to battle with but still, it was awesome. Hope to see some more.
You have to download the FAF client.
It is a community based services. There are a lot of people playing, with nice match making system and ranking ect.
4QGs & 5 t3 massfabs makes a very effective build of sacus - the adj., bonus for QGs makes it a ton cheaper if yr power-rich.
Epic! Epic! Epic!!! So fun to watch. Can't wait to play this mod!
This is amazingly awesome. I could never do this in a million years and win.
OMG!! You really need to do more of these!
The thing with the chicken is, that if it get reclaimed when it dies it keeps standing and no storm appears.
I read this somewhere, some time ago.
Gyle, coming back to this as we haven't seen any other Phantom match. Could you consider doing another one? I know you're currently unwell so it doesn't have to be asap, but whenever you want. Loved this when it came out and watching it again now because it was awesome! Keep up the great casts Gyle! Love em a lot!
The dead chickens standing up is a bug caused when you reclaim a chicken as it is killed to negate the Ion storm.
Ion Storm wont activate if they are being reclaimed, which purple did smartly on those 3 chickens
Finally, a game which, in its form, resembles the ultimate metaphysical war between good and evil, in that it is game of "who is who", of petty confusion and cruel deception, of taking advantage of those in your own "secret group", but sometimes making deals with them to annihilate "innocents" who may swing the game in some way.
the storm missing is not a bug!
if u reclaim it before it go down u cancel the storm(at least in FA before FAF)
because its not rendered yet, give it some time.
Also, welcome to youtube.
1:02- that chicken blocking th strat bombs :p so lucky!
Nice commentary! Don't think i have ever seen a game i have played in commentated on before, probably because i only play phantom games though.
The amount of SACU's was incredible! I'm surprised so few tried to telekill though.
15:50
I don't think he dropped on purpose. All the chat up to that point was lag being caused by him, so I guess the bad connection took him down. Which sucks, because I'm pretty sure he was also the Paladin.
Gyle: when a chicken dies while being reclaimed, the ion storm doesn't happen. If you watch closely, you'll notice that an scu breaks off building ravagers to start reclaiming the chicken
Fun viewing. We should definitely commission a pro match that'd be fun to see.
Gyle, the phantom bonus ranges from 10%- what you said i believe.
You'd think they'd have the capacity to construct game enders in these things. If you churn out Atlantis at that rate and have 300k reclaim, any lull could be utilized to start producing a Mavor I'd say.
This is jcroffor (now Gilgalad). We built T3 arty. Unless it is Cybran (T3 arty range goes Aeon>Seraphim>UEF>Cybran), it can reach all of the islands and starts firing, and doing damage, in 1/3 the time.
Building Atlantis was a good idea because Seraphim cannot build T3 sonar (you can hide your air production easily as T2 sonar cannot be used for scouting because it is immobile). It also provided AA and naval defense, allowing him to be flexible given his lack of potential bases (I had an advantage in terms of artillery and nukes, making rebuilding bases a difficult proposition).
If you reclaim a chicken as it is being killed, the ion storm does not appear.
Beautiful game. Was hoping to see stealthed mexes on the other islands, but still very fine game.
Wouldn't the mass fab in the gateways be for adjacency bonus?
You need the forged alliance forever community client, that's where all the players are. There's a link in the description to the video.
omg finaly you got your hands on a mod!!!
I love this mode. You could do more vids like this one.
Just because he knows something you don't doesn't make him some prolord :)
I don't play the game personally but love to watch it, but i do have one question. Wtf is the paragon and what does it do? Thanks to any one who can help!
Yes, HD?
I can't believe you don't know about the ythotha ion storm reclaim effect...if your units reclaiming the ythotha causes it to die, it doesn't have an ion storm
This game was from 2013, that wasn't common knowledge back then dude.
oh ok
Played my first Phantom match the other day and was Paladin. Tried to nuke a Phantom without breaking the alliance first so he seen me launch it right at his ACU and moved out of the way. Noobie mistake. Still got some T3 Arty up and helped defeat a second Phantom that sent a fleet towards my Ravagers. :D But Gyle, could you cast a LAB wars match?
Red should have built up his nukes and navy waited until purple was guaranteed dead then snipe the SMD at blue and rained nukes while his navy kills his com if the nukes didn't kill him
holy hell he reclaimed the chicken at 20:15
thats very impressive
The asf nerf has reduced the number of asfs in pro games by 300% - ie. where there would have been 350, there are now only 150 - as far as I know.
if you starts reclaim chicken before his death then storm will not show up...its bug but not phantom bug
why do people not have their arty hit the naval production....
I have the game on steam, but there seems to be almost no one playing :( is it different for the Gas powered servers?
Damn! One of the best I've seen in a long while... I friggin' love Average Joes...
So on another note Gyle, how about blackops, the mod's looking pretty good...
I remember you saying you don't cast it because you don't get good replays of it but come on seriously after all this time... It gives people so much to play with... Need Blackops Cast
Great game!
Very epic. Love it... thx for cast
that's what war looks like really nice video
And Gyle = very good commentator! ;)
Whats ur preferred method of receiving replays?
whats this another hour game times to get comfy :P
Why isent it in HD?
AVERAGE joes.... and it depends on how late game he was thinking
most players i know forget you can eve upgrade the sacu
Or at least knows his stuff, just knowing the tactics doesn't mean you can execute it as well as the pros
Nice game, I was hoping I'd get to see a phantom match. I was hoping for a more diplomatic/paranoia scenario, though, with innocents accusing each other of being a phantom and phantoms causing general chaos. Would have been sweet to see.
I don't play this game, but I analyse a lot of these vids because I love strategy ;), even the epic ones. In my opinion, this one is the MOST epic I've seen so far... Greatest respect to Lemming_King! and Great respect to others ;)
almost limitless... +200 mass and +20000 energy max (unless they patched it)
gyle first phatom cast dafaq, im really confused but happy :D
yea i saw that and just so you know, been a sub For a VERY long time ;)
What are average joes? I can't seem to figure out what it means.
Not noobs but not particularly good either, the 'average' in 'average joes' should give it away.
...Good point. My ability to potentially recognize obvious details can be on and off at times.
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thats the trick with the chicken storm, sheppard mentioned it in his tutorials :)
you know because of the x2 res that opens some absurd ideas that might actually work. step 1: paragon in your own base
step 2: build a shiton of support coms.
step 3: build paragons int he enemy base and control k them.
absurd ideas are absurd but make it far more fun even if they won't ever work. i would do it because why the hell not. if nothing else the explosion of all the support commanders will soften up the entire base
This would be interesting to watch high ranked players play
Wow that was a awesome!
More of these :)
I don't know how to get this game on pc because I have no disc reader please help
You can buy the base version of Forged Alliance through Steam for fairly
cheap. After that, you can download FAF from their site in the
description of this video.
We'll all be waiting.
Use g2a, its £2.50
FAF = Updated FA
why is this 240 i wanna watch in hd :0 so annoying
Epic!!!!
most epic moment in the game ^^
***** WE NEED MORE PHANTOMS PLEASE :D
uhhh, a new one
hey nathan, join faf (forged alliance forever) its free and has usally got atleast 300 people on
forget it just the fucked up computer xD
Phantom is a bit silly really. Too much mass.
i really think it is stupid having 2 phantoms with only 6 player s
thank you, now i understand lol.
like
aww your no fun..... at least let me try to get a paragon up for lols.
Its a waste of time to even start
I was the 201 peson to like
good for you