Why do some trauma survivors have trouble falling and staying asleep?

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
  • In this webcast, Dr. Frank Ochberg explains why some PTSD survivors have trouble falling asleep, staying asleep and the fear of nightmares.

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  • @k2laSndi
    @k2laSndi 11 лет назад +102

    You NEED to be in a safe environment and feel safe to be able to let your guard down to be able to rest and sleep, not be "on guard 24/7" it sucks the life out of you.

    • @ts3858
      @ts3858 2 года назад +5

      I don't feel safe in my body ...I'm thinking too much in my limbic brain ...

    • @lonepheasant3489
      @lonepheasant3489 Год назад

      I agree

    • @TheMeanGirlz
      @TheMeanGirlz Год назад

      @@ts3858 it’s okay. 👄 👄👄calm down. You’re safe here with me. I’ll let no one hurt u. 👄💋💋💄

    • @klanderkal
      @klanderkal 3 месяца назад

      That's my 24/7.
      It's terrifying....
      I'm not supposed to say " I can't go on"....

  • @jessicalatorraca8507
    @jessicalatorraca8507 4 года назад +43

    Went to ❤️ doctor for palpitations, turned out to be PTSD. Best sleep advice he gave: GET UP at same time each morning. No matter what time you fall asleep, or even if nightmares wake you. The getting up regulated my body, despite unmitigated exhaustion - as I used the techniques of CBT and ate well, I at long last got restful sleep! Hope this can help someone.

    • @MZFiVETW000H
      @MZFiVETW000H 3 года назад +3

      Thank you for tips 🥺 gonna try this out. Appreciate this message ❤️

    • @jessicalatorraca8507
      @jessicalatorraca8507 3 года назад +1

      @@MZFiVETW000H Best to you! 🌱

    • @MZFiVETW000H
      @MZFiVETW000H 3 года назад +2

      @@jessicalatorraca8507 thank you so much 💛 take care

    • @zincerish
      @zincerish Год назад +2

      How's it going now?? I wanna try this but I'm scared I won't get enough sleep and feel miserable the next day :( how long before your body adapted to that?

    • @jessicalatorraca8507
      @jessicalatorraca8507 Год назад +1

      @@MZFiVETW000H I don’t remember how long, but it’s 5yrs later and I still do it. Some days, yes, extra tired - but whatever your coping strategies, stick with them. They’ll reward you in the long run 🏆🤎

  • @sl4983
    @sl4983 5 лет назад +82

    I tend to AVOID going to sleep.

    • @EduardoGarcia-hz3cr
      @EduardoGarcia-hz3cr 2 года назад +8

      have u found out why? i seem to experience the same thing. just realized it after reading ur comment so thank you.

    • @lilmogwaii
      @lilmogwaii 2 года назад +5

      Had this for years I wish I could cure it

    • @haleydoe2279
      @haleydoe2279 2 года назад +4

      Same. Then I sleep for a week to avoid waking up.

    • @IRONMIKE772
      @IRONMIKE772 2 года назад +4

      Same here. If I do go to sleep I have night mares. It’s hell.

    • @Fartboy420
      @Fartboy420 2 года назад +1

      Yep

  • @mrnosleepinhouston2132
    @mrnosleepinhouston2132 Год назад +15

    I was attacked in my sleep by a family member. I was already having issues with insomnia at the time but since that day I've been afraid to fall asleep around anyone.

    • @LG-wm1nw
      @LG-wm1nw Год назад +4

      My mother was very abusive and would wait until I would fall asleep to beat me out of my sleep. Now years later, I finally made the connection between that traumatic event to my chronic insomnia.

    • @mrnosleepinhouston2132
      @mrnosleepinhouston2132 Год назад +2

      @@LG-wm1nw I've been here before that's deeply traumatic my mom is still til this day a lonely narcissist none of my siblings want anything to do with her .

  • @solala1312
    @solala1312 4 года назад +28

    sleep is either reliving past trauma or feeling still tired for me. rarely I ever feel refreshed because my day often starts with being remembered of the things I had to endure. when it's really bad, I sleepwalk with eyes opened and don't even remember any of it, it's scary for others and sucks all energy out of me.
    so why would I want to go to sleep? I avoid it out of fear and wish I could just rest when I feel tired.

    • @mrnosleepinhouston2132
      @mrnosleepinhouston2132 Год назад +2

      I sleep very lightly and with one eye open I don't fully fall asleep unless ik everyone in the house has gone to bed

  • @TaxingIsThieving
    @TaxingIsThieving Год назад +4

    It's good to hear from a soft-spoken man.

  • @beautyfrompainxxx
    @beautyfrompainxxx 4 года назад +26

    I can’t sleep or stay asleep... Every dream I have had in my entire life has been tragic. I have nightmares. Nighttime was hell in my house... It was terrifying. I never feel safe because I wasn’t then...and when I sleep I have to be right beside a wall and sleep in a certain position.

    • @Pumpkinshire
      @Pumpkinshire Год назад +1

      I sleep prone or not at all to protect myself. I also have to sleep behind freestanding bookshelves in the middle of my room that block the path to the door with an aisle.

  • @jessicalatorraca8507
    @jessicalatorraca8507 4 года назад +17

    Also, for intrusive thoughts, I adopted a visual that I would force my mind to, so as to not ride what I call my ‘train to nowhere’. Round & round with misery. Literally had to wrench my brain away from the dark side, every night, multiple times, and every time I got up. When I needed to get out of bed, I’d make self go back in 1/2 hr; if too fatigued to walk, would sit on side of bed with eyes open (excruciating) for 5 or 10 mins, to reboot. Then sometimes my brain would make peace, and sleep would come. Much improved today.

  • @jakethedog4397
    @jakethedog4397 2 года назад +11

    I slept with the light on for months after my trauma and I have to have a noise to keep the thoughts out. No pills but books on tape

  • @Kathy.Farrey
    @Kathy.Farrey Год назад +6

    I don't have PTSD, but suffered insomnia for many years. What helped me was when I broke my eyeglasses and had to start wearing my sunglasses all day long. Now I couldn't stay awake if I wanted. I will lie down thinking I'm going to read for a while and 15 minutes later I have to set down my phone because I can't keep my eyes open. I have fallen asleep with my phone in hand, dropped my phone, lost it in my covers. Fun stuff.

    • @zincerish
      @zincerish Год назад +2

      Hmm so you think the blue light blocked out by the sunglasses helped increase melatonin and made you sleepy?

    • @KatiTheButcher
      @KatiTheButcher Год назад

      Very rarely Im so tired I will fall asleep with my phone above my face and I smack myself in the head with my phone lol.

  • @CarlosGarcia-ij4yg
    @CarlosGarcia-ij4yg Год назад +5

    ASMR videos smooth me right to sleep. Then the trauma dreams start all night sometimes. They take some time off for a while now and then and I feel better in the morning.

  • @t.r.4496
    @t.r.4496 2 года назад +7

    I've had the nightmares and night terrors since my fall. I don't get much rest because of being woken up every hour on the hour. Even though I fell 40 foot and was knocked out for 10 minutes. I walked out the hospital the next day. I still expose myself to the the fear of falling again by climbing power poles everyday. Sometimes I wonder if it is something else that has caused the nightmares. I have been involved in all kinds of traumatic events from strangers to coworkers. Electrocutions, car wrecks, gun shots, being shot at. Name it I probably have seen it happen. I just try to go on with my life best I can.

  • @mialite7959
    @mialite7959 5 лет назад +11

    My indica laden Death Star strain. 2-3 hits of that and i'm usually out. Some days are worse than others but it usually works 75% of the time. No side affects!

    • @dawnzimmermann2958
      @dawnzimmermann2958 2 года назад

      Yip, its the only way Iv been able to sleep since 2016. Id say 90%effective but other health issues still interfere. 😓

  • @ts3858
    @ts3858 2 года назад +5

    It's like a vicious cycle...but I have to start somewhere ....feeling safe...letting go...

  • @owlseyeseeit5420
    @owlseyeseeit5420 Год назад +3

    Best advice I’ve had in my 26yrs with ptsd, is to not try and make myself go to sleep. Sleeping pills are my worst nightmare when I’m having nightmares. I get hurt. Mild benzo and exorcise, sunshine with knowledge of my pts has brought me so far in the last 15yrs.

    • @TheMeanGirlz
      @TheMeanGirlz Год назад

      You’re safe with me. 👄👄I’ll protect u 💋💋💋mother’s got you. 👄💋

  • @longstoryshort8657
    @longstoryshort8657 2 года назад +1

    this was one thing i used to do that really helped in the first stages of healing and then forgot about it and started having trouble again. thank you so muchhh ♥️

  • @Swan-zg5om
    @Swan-zg5om Год назад +2

    It’s honestly a fight especially by yourself some night’s horrible just have to accept I’m not normal but getting up no matter what it helps mess your days and nights end up sleeping all day staying up all night it’s torture then odd nightmares I know this we’ll effect my heart when I’m old I don’t think all ever be cured it’s so deep in my mental just adapt constant fear at night horrible try so hard to relax but my body feels tense I feel unsafe sometimes I stay up all night just force my self up to workout try completely exhaust my body so it sleeps but it’s gonna be fight for my whole life it’s left me very lonely anger sad paranoid tense at least I’m fighting it with my mind then alcohol i just wanna feel safe I’m very damaged person mentally I know there other’s feel this way I’m sorry life did that to you definitely takes a toll never quit RIP to all the fallen people that could not take the mental toll may they be in forever peace that the torture is over sad to say but it’s the reality of PTSD Trauma

  • @OnlyTheBest345
    @OnlyTheBest345 Год назад

    Thank you so much for this video. It may have been posted 11 years ago, but it it was something I needed to hear today. I was able to get a prescription for it and look forward to getting sleep.

  • @kittenwithdaggerclaws0525
    @kittenwithdaggerclaws0525 5 лет назад +10

    I have complex post traumatic stress disorder and my psychiatrist prescribed prazosin hcl for my nightmares. It doesn't do anything for my nightmares.

    • @user-ru3qw9of3w
      @user-ru3qw9of3w 5 лет назад +3

      I had nightmares, and psych prescribed me asentra ( prozac). I went to reiki masters as well and fight the complex ptsd with dignity. You can do it too. Start with positive thinking and your life will change. Dont be afraid

    • @jakethedog4397
      @jakethedog4397 2 года назад +1

      Me too / weed helps my

    • @KatiTheButcher
      @KatiTheButcher Год назад

      Cannabis will prevent 90% of nightmares. Thats smoking or vaping, not sure about edibles. The only bad thing about it is the reason you have nightmares in the first place is because that is the brains way of processing trauma. But for those of us whos brains get stuck every night trying to process the trauma I don't see why it would matter anyway.

  • @oddedges
    @oddedges 2 года назад

    this man is a saint

  • @charlieanstey9998
    @charlieanstey9998 2 года назад +3

    alcohol helps in small amounts. Short term, 20 years or so.

  • @Huma191
    @Huma191 2 года назад

    How comforting...

  • @GingerAutie
    @GingerAutie 12 лет назад +9

    I tend to sleep too much

  • @misstigermilk
    @misstigermilk 6 лет назад +5

    Trazodone is a drug that creates way more problems with sleep and mood fluctuations than it solves. Based on that alone, this man is not someone that really understands trauma or pharmacology.

    • @mialite7959
      @mialite7959 5 лет назад +1

      Yep, it'll block you up. Won't be able to take a poo for weeks. No thank you. I'll stick with marijuana. Works like a charm

    • @yourenough3
      @yourenough3 4 года назад +3

      Klonopin is my demon. Trying to taper and it's making things worse than before I started taking it 4 years ago. Drs. Shouldnt be allowed to prescribe this medication. Wishing you well.

    • @CarlosGarcia-ij4yg
      @CarlosGarcia-ij4yg Год назад

      How do you know? I've been taking it for many years

  • @kinky.kat95
    @kinky.kat95 Год назад +1

    Due to my ptsd triggers and trauma, I feel like I'm one bad dream away from waking up screaming. :(

  • @nightdogggg
    @nightdogggg Месяц назад

    I had a stent put in my heart, Thre act of dozing off causes me to wake up in a panic and have to huff and puff. Really need some sleep

  • @martinlorentsen4704
    @martinlorentsen4704 4 года назад +3

    He hasn't read the polyvagal theory!

  • @clanmacbeth7057
    @clanmacbeth7057 6 лет назад +9

    I need literal horse tranquilizer to go to sleep,Or I sleep to much..Anyone watching this pot helps heaps..

    • @mialite7959
      @mialite7959 5 лет назад +1

      HUUUUUUUUUGE!!!!

    • @Paid2Win
      @Paid2Win 3 года назад +6

      Pot also weakens the resolve of the mind, decreases testosterone levels, is expensive and addictive.
      For me, I live in a state where it's legal, but I don't think people should use it every day.

  • @Ohkeh640
    @Ohkeh640 Год назад

    Had a nightmare last night well yesterday afternoon
    I’m sleeping around 5-7am lately!!
    Sucks
    My sleeping pattern is way off at the moment so trying to fix it

  • @sl4983
    @sl4983 5 лет назад +2

    ambien has been a godsend

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 5 лет назад +1

      I don't take a whole tablet at once, otherwise he is correct. One has to take it to best work for you .

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 5 лет назад +2

      IT has helped me. IT is a miracle.

    • @Donna777
      @Donna777 Год назад +1

      Amen to that! Ambien saved my life years ago when I couldn't stay asleep for more than a few minutes at a time and was being traumatized by sleep paralysis and hypnagogic hallucinations. But now Ambien barely works for me anymore and my insurance refused to let me have the higher dose my sleep neurologist prescribed. 😤😭

    • @KatiTheButcher
      @KatiTheButcher Год назад

      ​@@Donna777quit working for me too

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Donna777 See if your doctor can put in a special authorization request. That's what mine did. I tend to need about 13 mg, but not all at once. Or see about the Extended release?

  • @sulviagania5665
    @sulviagania5665 Год назад +1

    What if you can’t sleep if you hear the smallest sound ???? I haven’t slept the last 5 days I’m exhausted! If someone has the same problem please text me ❤

    • @KatiTheButcher
      @KatiTheButcher Год назад +1

      I have this problem with hypersensitivity to sound or light. The only thing that has been helping me is listening to shrouded hand bedtime stories. His voice is so soothing. Only problem is after the video is over I wake up (about 2 hours). I hate white noise and a box fan ironically drowns out any noise I might "need to hear" and makes me anxious. Im still experimenting with the right ambient noise, hope this helps both of us.

  • @Sunset553
    @Sunset553 3 года назад +1

    Addictive, not addicting. You prescribe medication but don’t know the term for getting hooked.

  • @rebekah4405
    @rebekah4405 Год назад

    Nightmares and middle of night waking is exhausting, I use a med from my Dr for sleep

    • @Ohkeh640
      @Ohkeh640 Год назад

      What Do you take for sleep

  • @user-ru3qw9of3w
    @user-ru3qw9of3w 5 лет назад

    Asentra saved my life

  • @NotofManandTheMachines
    @NotofManandTheMachines 7 лет назад +5

    As an audio engineer you have a few milsec delay on your voice. The quality is great the audio is awful and extremely distracting being a ptsd depression and ocd sufferer I couldn't listen anymore the clicks in your voice and swallowing are triggers for me but ty for trying

    • @UnicornUniverse333
      @UnicornUniverse333 4 года назад

      I was just fine listening, I found it soothing, but we're all different with what helps us.

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving Год назад

      I like his soft-spoken voice, it's not often you hear such a man.

    • @CarlosGarcia-ij4yg
      @CarlosGarcia-ij4yg Год назад

      Lol sorry!

  • @klanderkal
    @klanderkal 3 месяца назад

    Im obsessed alright. I cannot let go of what happened to me. When i say the word, DEVASTATED,,... that's what happened to me. The insomnia caused my stress, anxiety 24/7. The Depression. Anhedonia..... is !!!. He sounds like it can be Easley cured, and hey,... just take medications..... ☠️⛓️😫... !!

  • @Kathy.Farrey
    @Kathy.Farrey Год назад +1

    If your eyes get tired but your brain won't shut off, find a good audio book. I recommend Eckhart Tolle. He has the most boring voice known to man. I dare you try and stay awake. 😉

  • @johop1496
    @johop1496 2 года назад

    Me

  • @k2laSndi
    @k2laSndi 11 лет назад +5

    I think this guy is full of crap as well as all the "so called professionals" who have just set me back with their drugs and nonsense talk.

    • @mialite7959
      @mialite7959 5 лет назад

      Try CBD, and the regular stuff has saved my life. Of all antidepressants

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving Год назад

      I eat chocolate which apparently has caffeine and I sleep fine.