Definitely the best guide I have seen on how to use and defeat top tier missiles. Perfectly worded, nothing too fancy or complicated, and just the right amount of entertaining.
Yeah I used to do this a lot before the fox-3 update. Could also fire them, unlock your target and let them coast with IOG before relocking when they get close
YES great video bro, you did really explain it perfectly you should start making more shorts for your channel to grow more. also would love to get some games together
0:41 it would be the same if you was stationary, but when you’re moving Doppler shift of those waves reflected from notching target equal to Doppler shift of those waves reflected from the ground so radar filter them. It’s more complicated irl though cause irl you can change speed gates of PD radars to whatever you want so that little trick basically works only if the target is way below you (flying against the ground), constantly spamming A LOT of chaffs to emulate ground clutter while flying high or if you both are at low altitude.
Yeah I didn't want to get into the science too much in the video because it's been a while since I studied stuff like this at university haha. I have a general understanding of doppler shift, but I tried to keep the focus on how in functions in game especially given how it's not a true reflection of irl
I am well attuned to notch and chaff and it seems very commonly it doesnt work and if i knew why id probably survive a lot more. I think its either IOG on the missile or the launching plane maintaining lock and DL that makes it near impossible to chaff, R27ER is really hard to notch/chaff
Have a look in sensor view in the replay if you're ever confused what happened. Also you mention the ER and this guide is mostly intended for fox-3, in the case of SARH and the ER specifically you're going to find them a lot harder to notch. Reason being when you notch a fox-3 you're notching the missile's radar set (which is weaker), with the ER you're notching the radar of the launching aircraft which is a lot stronger, couple that with the ER also having IOG and DL you have the hardest missile to notch in the game at the moment. With the ER you'll also have to change your altitude and defend more aggressively, you typically won't get to flick off your tail to your chaff like fox-3s tend to
Hi, i really don't understant something tho, If someone launched a Fox3 lets say from 15-20 km away and i start notching, i would get two indications on my RWR during the notching. The first is going to be the enemy fighter radar, and the second one is going to be the missile. Now after the time pass by whom am i have to notch with 90 degrees, the radar or the missile?
If it's a fox-3 in terminal range like you describe then notch the missile, if the enemy plane is locking you it will just be a track warning on your RWR, the 'MSL' launch warning is what's going to kill you
At long range the missile will often reacquire you, after it loses lock it will start searching again, if this is at long range you're likely still in the radar sweep, so you just have to be patient and watch your RWR. At 4 or 5km you just have to pull hard and drop chaff aggressively, much like the examples in the video which are at these shorter ranges. If it's still tracking you probably just haven't rotated enough yet
@@stanaustin8440 No problem, F-15s mostly won't use their thrust to run away. If they do let them go, they can't influence the match from their airfield. If they keep pushing in that's perfect, let them fire their long range amraams, be patient, notch and bleed their missiles off and push in between their launches. Once you get 20km and below it's an even playing field
@@MiGanFox3haha love it man. Growth is getting there. These strategy videos are a niche, especially only when you go towards top tier. Maybe dabble in some prop 4.0-6.0 AIRRB or ground RB. A lot more players and traction to gain there
@@widowios True, I've made it a top tier niche though because that's what I play and am good at. I stopped playing ground RB a while back, way too frustrating, I could see myself playing a prop or 2 in future. And I am going to do some of the earlier jets that I like as well (been playing the F8U & F4J to level my US bomber line and they both deserve a video)
Definitely the best guide I have seen on how to use and defeat top tier missiles. Perfectly worded, nothing too fancy or complicated, and just the right amount of entertaining.
Thank you mate, glad you think so 👍
Your guides got me from a average of 0.7kd in su27sm to 3
i dont know man, watched tim and defyn but really your guide was so much more usefull, i realy understand now how to notch
Love the videos! You explain strategy and techniques so clearly, I can’t be the only one who appreciates it! You’re the man!
Thank you mate, glad you enjoy them 👍
R-27ERs are great at requiring the target with data link after it is lost.
Yeah I used to do this a lot before the fox-3 update. Could also fire them, unlock your target and let them coast with IOG before relocking when they get close
great video man, please keep it up! you definitely deserve to be subscribed
YES great video bro, you did really explain it perfectly you should start making more shorts for your channel to grow more.
also would love to get some games together
0:41 it would be the same if you was stationary, but when you’re moving Doppler shift of those waves reflected from notching target equal to Doppler shift of those waves reflected from the ground so radar filter them. It’s more complicated irl though cause irl you can change speed gates of PD radars to whatever you want so that little trick basically works only if the target is way below you (flying against the ground), constantly spamming A LOT of chaffs to emulate ground clutter while flying high or if you both are at low altitude.
Yeah I didn't want to get into the science too much in the video because it's been a while since I studied stuff like this at university haha. I have a general understanding of doppler shift, but I tried to keep the focus on how in functions in game especially given how it's not a true reflection of irl
Really great video. Well explained and lots of scenarios.
Thank you mate 👍
This was super helpful. Thank you.
You're welcome mate!
such a nice video with good examples and explanation of whats happening.
Thank you mate 👍
I am well attuned to notch and chaff and it seems very commonly it doesnt work and if i knew why id probably survive a lot more. I think its either IOG on the missile or the launching plane maintaining lock and DL that makes it near impossible to chaff, R27ER is really hard to notch/chaff
Have a look in sensor view in the replay if you're ever confused what happened. Also you mention the ER and this guide is mostly intended for fox-3, in the case of SARH and the ER specifically you're going to find them a lot harder to notch. Reason being when you notch a fox-3 you're notching the missile's radar set (which is weaker), with the ER you're notching the radar of the launching aircraft which is a lot stronger, couple that with the ER also having IOG and DL you have the hardest missile to notch in the game at the moment. With the ER you'll also have to change your altitude and defend more aggressively, you typically won't get to flick off your tail to your chaff like fox-3s tend to
@MiGanFox3 thanks for the help. Yea I typically don't face the er at top tier of course but was just saying how difficult it is, it's also crazy fast.
@@jaydenblain3599 Yeah it's nasty the odd occasion where someone catches you out
Really good video.
10:30 that must be one of the clueless f16 players that have no idea how to fly that beast of a plane
Yeah he let himself get slow which is a big no no in an F-16
Hi, i really don't understant something tho, If someone launched a Fox3 lets say from 15-20 km away and i start notching, i would get two indications on my RWR during the notching.
The first is going to be the enemy fighter radar, and the second one is going to be the missile. Now after the time pass by whom am i have to notch with 90 degrees, the radar or the missile?
If it's a fox-3 in terminal range like you describe then notch the missile, if the enemy plane is locking you it will just be a track warning on your RWR, the 'MSL' launch warning is what's going to kill you
@@MiGanFox3 thank you very much
What range is it most effective to notch a missle? I find at 15 to 30 it always tracks me and below it doesnt but 4 or 5 km it feels unstoppable
At long range the missile will often reacquire you, after it loses lock it will start searching again, if this is at long range you're likely still in the radar sweep, so you just have to be patient and watch your RWR.
At 4 or 5km you just have to pull hard and drop chaff aggressively, much like the examples in the video which are at these shorter ranges. If it's still tracking you probably just haven't rotated enough yet
thank you soo much with the new f15 spam this helps alot
@@stanaustin8440 No problem, F-15s mostly won't use their thrust to run away. If they do let them go, they can't influence the match from their airfield. If they keep pushing in that's perfect, let them fire their long range amraams, be patient, notch and bleed their missiles off and push in between their launches. Once you get 20km and below it's an even playing field
Only 400 subs is crazy…
I had less than 100 only 8 days ago so I'm getting there haha. Glad you liked the video 👍
@@MiGanFox3haha love it man. Growth is getting there. These strategy videos are a niche, especially only when you go towards top tier. Maybe dabble in some prop 4.0-6.0 AIRRB or ground RB. A lot more players and traction to gain there
@@widowios True, I've made it a top tier niche though because that's what I play and am good at. I stopped playing ground RB a while back, way too frustrating, I could see myself playing a prop or 2 in future. And I am going to do some of the earlier jets that I like as well (been playing the F8U & F4J to level my US bomber line and they both deserve a video)
@@MiGanFox3 got u man. Keep it up! Haven’t really found any visual strategy explanations as thorough and condensed to the point as this on RUclips.