That's why I got mine cheaper. Not complaining. 24K miles on it and did 160 mph two Saturdays ago on the autostrada. Not to mention that it's a chick-magnet. Their loss, my gain!
The 'looks' are terrific - the maintenance bills were horrific. This car model had more Factory Service Bulletins than the Space Shuttle. 348 sales were so poor, the car almost bankrupted Ferrari. I knew owners who traded-in their 'new' 348s on 328s because the car was so bad...
@@MichaelJames-lz7ni in that period there was a big crisis in luxury cars. Porsche was almost in bankrupt too because sales in america were declined by 50%. Mercedes saw a big decrease too (40% if i remeber correctly). In every market ferrari lost 20-30% in sales. The testarossa at the time was pretty old, the mondial wasn't a big commercial success, and the only new model was the 348. For the first 2 and a half years sales were really good. They sold over 3k cars in 1990/1991, i believe, and it was a record for them. The 348 was very well received when launched. From the end of 1989 to the end of 1992, ferrari sold 8/9k cars, and were sold 6k 348s in that period. In 1991/1992 the crisis hit and it was a hard time for ferrari, they stopped selling the mondial, the testarossa became 512tr and sales went down. Lamborghini was selling 300 cars each years at the time! Were sold more 348s than 328s, more 348s than testarossas, more 348s than mondials. The maintenance on the 348 was expensive (more than the 328), especially because of the timing belt sostitution. But 355s maintenance is as high as 348 is, if not even higher (because it has electronic suspensions and in some models have paddle shifter too). If a car is bad just because when it was sold the company was financially bad, it would mean that 1960s ferraris, 1990s lamborghinis, 1990s porsches, new alfa romeos, aston martins, ... are horrible cars
You just don't get the same coolness factor seeing it in a video versus seeing it in front of you, its such a beautiful car. I love working on these 90s vehicles.
The 348 tb gets a lot of flak during the Montezemolo era. However this is probably the last "mechanical" Ferrari that you can do all servicing in DIY fashion. I still love the late 80s styling however.
@@MichaelJames-lz7ni the 355 shared the same chassis as the 348 (and many other components), with just a couple of changes due to have more power. A 348 was used to develop the 2 protype cars of the enzo. It wasn't used a 360, a 355, a f50 or a 328, but a 348. I read almost 15 news papers and 13 of them talks good about it, and 2 not. One of them is car and driver. They tested a 348 and it had bridgestone re71 (stock tires, and they weren't good) and a weird setup that other owners had too, and the car was horrible. About the set up, I also read that a owner sent the car to a ferrari dealership saying that it had big handling problems (the same mentioned by c&d). The mechanic then set upped the car with the reccomended parameters from ferrari and switched tires (as ferrari was reccomending) to bridgestone expedia s01. Then the car was much much better. The other one is an australian news paper and he said that the 348ts chassis isn't as stiff as a 1997 nsx. One has targa roof, the nsx not, so it is normal that the coupe chassis is stiffer The other 13 have just good words to say about it. There are italian, english, americans, germans and australians news papers from 1990s and modern too
my pops had a 90' exactly like this one except with tan interior...bought it brand new and only really put about 2.5k miles on it....I put about 3500 on it myself in a couple summers...I never liked it much before i spent time driving it...magnificent car to drive...much easier and more comfortable to drive than a 328 or TR but still thrilling...he traded it for a 430 a couple years ago and while i love the 430 and didn't think i'd miss the 348 i really do
Man that thing has good braking, it's really very impressive for 1990 tires. The 348 seems like one of those cars that had all the parts it needed to succeed, but somehow came off as less than the sum of them. I wonder how effectively tuners could unlock the cohesive potential of this car, or how much there's something that just fundamentally fails it...
The 348, F355 and 360 Modena are the best looking cars in my opinion. Simple in design and very stylish, give me a pair of Ray Ban sunglasses and one of those and i'll be cruising down the coastline with a big smile!
The TB's body-coloured roof looks so much better--too bad the TS was by far the sales leader. This was fixed with the F355, with an available body-coloured targa top.
If you seen the Ferrari 328 it replaced you would see why this didn't really do it for some. It's still nice but I think most would choose the older 328 over this 348 imo.
I never rode in a Ferrari before, but it's good to see a timeless retro review on one. Thanks for posting and keep the train rolling with more retro reviews! 💯💯
Beautiful car. Interesting...the last road test I saw on a V6 Camry showed the same 5.8 seconds to 60. Times have changed in the last 3 decades. But all out acceleration isn't everything
Do you guys have any more video reviews of the first generation RX-7 aside from the 944 vs RX-7 video? I'd really appreciate getting a good in-depth video on my daily! :D
This car looks better the more it ages. It's not quite on the level of the F355, but it's got some of its own unique styling going on that has really grown on me, in particular the side strakes and tail lights.
@@johnbarnes7716 I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, but I would never mistake a 458 for a vette of any generation, even the C8. Stuff like the California or the portofino though I can agree on. I seen a portofino coming my way and I thought it was a C7 corvette.
@@FlowmasterStang I own a 1994 348 spyder. I just climbed out of it. It's a gas. I was referring to the look of the headlites. When they are oncoming, from a distance, I hope to see a 458, but alas, it's another Corvette. Sorry. Maybe it's my old eyes.
For those of you praising the car because you gotta bj in one. You were trying too hard, but you get what you deserve with gold-diggers ya douches. Ripped off twice.
I don't "get" the hate; this these are fuckin awesome. These will be the next "cheap" Ferrari to skyrocket in value like the Testerossa a few years ago.
Man why is a radio optional??? And why no airbags? No spare, not even a doughnut?? If it were my money I would have just got an SL and saved a lil OR opted for the much better looking (tho i dont know why) 348 Speciale
This rari had 50% more power than the GSX and weighed less. The Eclipse was also just a jazzed up FWD economy platform, the rari, a bespoke mid engine platform.. Doubt their performance was that similar. Except, maybe the 0-60 times were close thanks to the GSX's AWD jumping it off the line quickly
MOLTO BENE!!!!!! CHE BELLA!!!! 4:39.......UGH!!!!!!!! I have ALWAYS believed that it should be ILLEGAL to have a stereo of ANY type i a Ferrari!!!! Those GLORIOUS V8's & V12's should be all the driving music one could ever need!!!!
Let me guess, you don't have a Ferrari right ? The sound of the Ferrari V8 is actually not that great unless you install a good exhaust or switch to a F355 or newer.
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It's a good looking car -- in some ways, a little more than the 355 -- but the size is wrong. How are you supposed to impress with a MR2-size car? Too bad they didn't scale it up a bit. But maybe the 512 counts as a scaled up 348.
Ferrari's are not tuned for drag racing, they are tuned for track racing. A Syclone would get its ass handed to in stock for stock against this 348 on a track all day err day
ReelOne until you throw an IROC at it on the same track and the Ferrari turns into an overpriced joke. IROCs earned their title, and a 5.7 would sniff right at the ass of that Ferrari, for way less money.
Slower than the same year Toyota MR2 Turbo at 3x the price. Less torque and more weight will do that. The interior isn’t as nice as the MR2 with leather seats either - that car was ahead of it’s time.
The mr2 turbo was slower than the 348. Maybe it had a slightly faster 0-100, but when speed gets higher, the ferrari overtake the mr2 Without a doubt the mr2 was really great, especially for its price. But the ferrari is faster
I don't understand the hate the Ferrari 348 gets. I think it's one of the most handsome post 1960 Ferrari's ever made. To me the 308 GT4 and Mondial are deserving of the hate. Google a Ferrari GT4. It's ugly by Ferrari standards. The GT4 is still cool because well... it's a Ferrari.
The build quality was so low rent. You could see the big panel gaps in some places and the overall cheapness of the interior. Still that is how exotics were put together before having major brands buy them out.
I think is a gorgeous car, no matter about the haters.
Juan Carlos Damonte to be honest I rather have the 348 rather the Mondial 8
I mean.... who hates Ferrari????
Mini Testarossa
Of course it is a gorgeous car its a FERRARI!!
Meh, the 328 was much more elegant
This car still looks awesome today. The side vents do look super 80s but they give it a lot of character and I dig it.
Why wouldn't it ...
The Ferrari 348 is classic and actual
The level of hate on this Ferrari is unfathomable
That's why I got mine cheaper. Not complaining. 24K miles on it and did 160 mph two Saturdays ago on the autostrada. Not to mention that it's a chick-magnet. Their loss, my gain!
100 feet from 60 is excellent.
The 'looks' are terrific - the maintenance bills were horrific. This car model had more Factory Service Bulletins than the Space Shuttle. 348 sales were so poor, the car almost bankrupted Ferrari. I knew owners who traded-in their 'new' 348s on 328s because the car was so bad...
I was just thinking how much I hated this Ferrari. Great minds lol
@@MichaelJames-lz7ni in that period there was a big crisis in luxury cars. Porsche was almost in bankrupt too because sales in america were declined by 50%. Mercedes saw a big decrease too (40% if i remeber correctly). In every market ferrari lost 20-30% in sales.
The testarossa at the time was pretty old, the mondial wasn't a big commercial success, and the only new model was the 348.
For the first 2 and a half years sales were really good. They sold over 3k cars in 1990/1991, i believe, and it was a record for them. The 348 was very well received when launched.
From the end of 1989 to the end of 1992, ferrari sold 8/9k cars, and were sold 6k 348s in that period.
In 1991/1992 the crisis hit and it was a hard time for ferrari, they stopped selling the mondial, the testarossa became 512tr and sales went down. Lamborghini was selling 300 cars each years at the time!
Were sold more 348s than 328s, more 348s than testarossas, more 348s than mondials.
The maintenance on the 348 was expensive (more than the 328), especially because of the timing belt sostitution. But 355s maintenance is as high as 348 is, if not even higher (because it has electronic suspensions and in some models have paddle shifter too).
If a car is bad just because when it was sold the company was financially bad, it would mean that 1960s ferraris, 1990s lamborghinis, 1990s porsches, new alfa romeos, aston martins, ... are horrible cars
You just don't get the same coolness factor seeing it in a video versus seeing it in front of you, its such a beautiful car. I love working on these 90s vehicles.
The 348 tb gets a lot of flak during the Montezemolo era. However this is probably the last "mechanical" Ferrari that you can do all servicing in DIY fashion. I still love the late 80s styling however.
Trades46 well said. Most people criticing the 348 just follow the bandwagon and have no clue or personal experience.
New models have 7 years free servicing now. Then the dramas start 😉
Funny you should mention Montezemolo - he owned one, and hated it. His experiences with his 348 led to the development of the 355....
@@MichaelJames-lz7ni the 355 shared the same chassis as the 348 (and many other components), with just a couple of changes due to have more power.
A 348 was used to develop the 2 protype cars of the enzo. It wasn't used a 360, a 355, a f50 or a 328, but a 348.
I read almost 15 news papers and 13 of them talks good about it, and 2 not. One of them is car and driver. They tested a 348 and it had bridgestone re71 (stock tires, and they weren't good) and a weird setup that other owners had too, and the car was horrible.
About the set up, I also read that a owner sent the car to a ferrari dealership saying that it had big handling problems (the same mentioned by c&d).
The mechanic then set upped the car with the reccomended parameters from ferrari and switched tires (as ferrari was reccomending) to bridgestone expedia s01. Then the car was much much better.
The other one is an australian news paper and he said that the 348ts chassis isn't as stiff as a 1997 nsx. One has targa roof, the nsx not, so it is normal that the coupe chassis is stiffer
The other 13 have just good words to say about it. There are italian, english, americans, germans and australians news papers from 1990s and modern too
Yeah you can really do the engine out belt service in diy fashion 😂😂
I fall asleep watching motorweek retro cause it reminds me of my 90s childhood before my life went into shit. 👍
I feel you 😅
my pops had a 90' exactly like this one except with tan interior...bought it brand new and only really put about 2.5k miles on it....I put about 3500 on it myself in a couple summers...I never liked it much before i spent time driving it...magnificent car to drive...much easier and more comfortable to drive than a 328 or TR but still thrilling...he traded it for a 430 a couple years ago and while i love the 430 and didn't think i'd miss the 348 i really do
Oh man, how I would have liked to have driven that 348 to a C&C Music Factory concert
Man that thing has good braking, it's really very impressive for 1990 tires. The 348 seems like one of those cars that had all the parts it needed to succeed, but somehow came off as less than the sum of them. I wonder how effectively tuners could unlock the cohesive potential of this car, or how much there's something that just fundamentally fails it...
Beautiful car loved this lots of testerosa like touches so much classier than anything else in its class at the time
1st Ferrari I ever drove and loved it. Heavy Clutch and Pedal offset to the right, but could get used to that.
I have a 348 too now for some time, and I must admit that I've gotten used to it.
The 348, F355 and 360 Modena are the best looking cars in my opinion. Simple in design and very stylish, give me a pair of Ray Ban sunglasses and one of those and i'll be cruising down the coastline with a big smile!
2019...and its still look awesome!
The TB's body-coloured roof looks so much better--too bad the TS was by far the sales leader. This was fixed with the F355, with an available body-coloured targa top.
The rear end is beautiful
NICK G07 it's a mini Testarossa :)
NICK G07 Ass man?😉
Yes. I have always loved those grill-style tail lights.
Pelleministeri anyone else liked the ones on the Suzuki Swift GTi in the 90s ? 😂
Every car with those kinda lights look cool. Retro
Love these and you can buy one cheap but the maintenance is crazy expensive!!
My dog's face was just like "wtf" when he heard the birds.
Northern Mockingbird, Eastern US subspecies
Timeless design imo. Get one now while they're sorta... cheap.
Man, I remember back in 2003; these were selling for $35k! Should’ve bought one
Too bad tavarsh didn't buy this in stead of hoovies BBQ 355 lol
Serby adjusted to inflation, you can still get one for a similar price.
You'd need $35K to get it running right in 2019....
How much now?
If you seen the Ferrari 328 it replaced you would see why this didn't really do it for some. It's still nice but I think most would choose the older 328 over this 348 imo.
that thing stopped really good for 1990. I love the 355 but this thing still sounds good too.
"This car will be worth more than the factory will initially charge"
* looks at CarGurus *
Boy was John wrong.
Oh no he wasn't. It's now starting to appreciate like crazy.
Why do people hate this Ferrari car? I like it and I think it's a cool 😎 looking Ferrari.
I never rode in a Ferrari before, but it's good to see a timeless retro review on one. Thanks for posting and keep the train rolling with more retro reviews! 💯💯
I remember how all the magazines were saying how the 1991 GMC Syclone was faster than this car.
It's styling is absolutely gorgeous and timeless. It makes a 911 looks like a tarted up vw beetle .
Dorkiest statement I've read in weeks.
these are fantastic cars to drive
"My Accord V6 is faster"........the bane of every MW retro video.
My Accord 2.0T is even faster :)
Yeah but you don't need dark window tints in the Ferrari.
The new 2.0t is slower than the last V6, lower on power too.
Not the auto.. its faster
It's splitting hairs but C&D got their '13 v6 to 14.0@103 vs 14.1@102 for '18
I have seen Fieros made to look like Ferraris, but this is the first Ferrari made to look like a Fiero. I love it!
Beautiful car. Interesting...the last road test I saw on a V6 Camry showed the same 5.8 seconds to 60. Times have changed in the last 3 decades. But all out acceleration isn't everything
Does the Toyota go 175 mph and look and sound beautiful?
@@jokesonyou1253 yes
So a 2018 Camry V6 will still get dusted by a 1998 Chevy Corvette? Got it.
Do you guys have any more video reviews of the first generation RX-7 aside from the 944 vs RX-7 video?
I'd really appreciate getting a good in-depth video on my daily! :D
CarNutz look up Bajabusta on Google. He has a bunch of episodes motorweek blocked on RUclips.
I don't think Robin Masters ended up buying this model.
packofhounds ...and I dont think Thomas Magnum would have liked it anyway.
But john...was there a voltmeter?
much nicer design than new Ferraris
Awesome.14s back in the early 90s.
Jason Clark Yea he is.
Poor guy.
My fourth favorite Ferrari after 288 GTO, Testarossa, and 355.
The 360 Modena & 550 Maranello were cool also!!!!
@@celticsdude no they weren't 🙄
if only history had been so kind to the 348 as this review was
Wow! How far have we come to these cars
Thanks guys... I loved this Ferrari when it came out. The seats don't allow for bigger bums lol..😂, guess it didn't sell well in America then....😋
This car looks better the more it ages. It's not quite on the level of the F355, but it's got some of its own unique styling going on that has really grown on me, in particular the side strakes and tail lights.
Really don't have a clue, do you?
It requires warming up to full temperature, to drive with ease.
Absolutely. When cold, you wonder what possessed you to buy one. Once the oil temp needle gets up from the peg, you get it. And smile……...
Beautiful and hella underrated.
If I give you good price, will you install P magnet?
Chris Weber unfortunately this one isn’t a magnet at all these days. You need a 360 or newer for that.
From a distance you knew it was a Ferrari, nowadays is another Story
yeah, my neighbors 458 looks just like Vette coming my way.
@@johnbarnes7716 I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, but I would never mistake a 458 for a vette of any generation, even the C8. Stuff like the California or the portofino though I can agree on. I seen a portofino coming my way and I thought it was a C7 corvette.
@@FlowmasterStang I own a 1994 348 spyder. I just climbed out of it. It's a gas. I was referring to the look of the headlites. When they are oncoming, from a distance, I hope to see a 458, but alas, it's another Corvette. Sorry. Maybe it's my old eyes.
Came here to hear John Davis say Testarossa. Was not disappointed
It’s a baby tessarossa
i want to lt2 swap one of these!
Even my 6 y.o. son knows that's a Ferrari. 2:08 that engine sings nicely.
I never drove one 🤧
Please post the 1999 355 f1 motorweek video!
The F1 is a pile of shit, so why?
Back when Bburago and Maisto built better Ferraris than Ferrari.
For those of you praising the car because you gotta bj in one. You were trying too hard, but you get what you deserve with gold-diggers ya douches. Ripped off twice.
Damn straight 👌
gmc syclone was advertised as faster than ferrari 0-60,they were referring to this one
I don't "get" the hate; this these are fuckin awesome. These will be the next "cheap" Ferrari to skyrocket in value like the Testerossa a few years ago.
The tester seemed so disappointed he didn’t get to abuse the shifter they way they always do on the manual cars haha.
the zr1 of the same year is cost half as much and performs way better. a full sec and a half quicker.
It accelerates much harder than the 308 owned by Robin Masters and driven by Thomas Sullivan Magnum IV.
【 Ferrari 348tb 】@ Bangkok THAILAND (1:57)
A hidden stereo? Not anymore after watching this video, thanks a lot MW. Now my radio will be stolen
no voltmeter gauge??
Man why is a radio optional??? And why no airbags? No spare, not even a doughnut?? If it were my money I would have just got an SL and saved a lil OR opted for the much better looking (tho i dont know why) 348 Speciale
Not my cup of tea for a Ferrari, but I'd take it in a heartbeat.
An Eclipse GSX of this era had similar performance for 70k less. With more safety features and room, might I add.
This rari had 50% more power than the GSX and weighed less. The Eclipse was also just a jazzed up FWD economy platform, the rari, a bespoke mid engine platform.. Doubt their performance was that similar. Except, maybe the 0-60 times were close thanks to the GSX's AWD jumping it off the line quickly
bliglum Yes, the 0-60/qtr mile was within a second of the Rari.
That 348 will get more pussy that an Eclipse no matter what era.
zerocool 😂😂
Brian McKoy Where are those shit boxes?
So it doesn't accelerate like a quick modern car, but the thing does 165 mph so to call it slow is ridiculous.
The t does not stand for transverse,as it's engine is mounted longitudinally. More like t is for transaxle.
The t stands for transverse gearbox. The engine is longitudinal.
5:00 if you put goo in your tire mechanic wont fix the tire.
Great car!
You have to launch them very hard to get that 14 second 1/4 mile. Otherwise it's more like a civic si. The sound however is UNGODLY in person.
Ungodly good or ungodly bad
Haters gonna hate. Trolls gonna troll. It's still a Ferrari designed by Pininfarina. I'd drive it. YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
MOLTO BENE!!!!!! CHE BELLA!!!! 4:39.......UGH!!!!!!!! I have ALWAYS believed that it should be ILLEGAL to have a stereo of ANY type i a Ferrari!!!! Those GLORIOUS V8's & V12's should be all the driving music one could ever need!!!!
Let me guess, you don't have a Ferrari right ?
The sound of the Ferrari V8 is actually not that great unless you install a good exhaust or switch to a F355 or newer.
4:14 Rick Astley
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4:06 DUDE!!!!!
Oh, the days when the numbering schema meant something.
ErwinSchrodinger64 it still does with Ferrari, but not always displacement and cylinders. Unlike BMW or Mercedes now.
Beauty lid Ben.
Hoovie just bought one XD
Why do people say these are slow? Those are fast numbers for 1990
I’m here cuz of hoovie
*Isn’t this the same Ferrari that got its ass handed to it by the GMC Syclone?*
palms are sweaty
1990 Ferrari
it's for sale already
It's a good looking car -- in some ways, a little more than the 355 -- but the size is wrong. How are you supposed to impress with a MR2-size car? Too bad they didn't scale it up a bit. But maybe the 512 counts as a scaled up 348.
Older cars were smaller, and i can tell you it looks really impressive in person, small as it may be
gorgeous!!!
Nice MR2
Cruis'n World
kano b YES
kano b I use to play cruisen usa all the time on n64
Gregory Pappas I remember my brother and I playing that at the laundry mat lol
Its my favorite Ferrari
The Ferrari that got beaten by the GMC Syclone sport truck in 1991 for its 0-60 time.
Ferrari's are not tuned for drag racing, they are tuned for track racing. A Syclone would get its ass handed to in stock for stock against this 348 on a track all day err day
ReelOne until you throw an IROC at it on the same track and the Ferrari turns into an overpriced joke. IROCs earned their title, and a 5.7 would sniff right at the ass of that Ferrari, for way less money.
300 horsepower 200mph price $98k what is worth now
redthorn 2000 this car couldn't even dream of 200mph... not near enough hp for that.
No Tony today
If he over pronunciates "Testarossa" one more time, I'm going to ya mo burn this place to the ground
+1000 for this... yes!!!
Er... sorry dude. It’s the correct pronunciation. You fail.
D B lmao that’s a great analogy lol, order Asian food with an Asian accent, wonder how they’d respond
Slower than the same year Toyota MR2 Turbo at 3x the price. Less torque and more weight will do that. The interior isn’t as nice as the MR2 with leather seats either - that car was ahead of it’s time.
The mr2 turbo was slower than the 348. Maybe it had a slightly faster 0-100, but when speed gets higher, the ferrari overtake the mr2
Without a doubt the mr2 was really great, especially for its price. But the ferrari is faster
A P
It was tested by various sources to be faster in the 400m. How much room does the Ferrari need to establish its dominance?
@@negativeindustrial the 348 can do 400m in 13.2
A mr2 turbo stock how take to do ir?
I don't understand the hate the Ferrari 348 gets. I think it's one of the most handsome post 1960 Ferrari's ever made. To me the 308 GT4 and Mondial are deserving of the hate. Google a Ferrari GT4. It's ugly by Ferrari standards. The GT4 is still cool because well... it's a Ferrari.
Panel Gaps Galore!!! You can here all that cheap plastic clicking. "Awesome Design"
Keep saving
Brimmbo brakes XD
Why he say it like that?
@@pepster85 accent
sensual 'Relating to or involving gratification of the senses and physical, especially sexual, pleasure.' hmm
0-60 I was expecting a lot more
They didn’t build exotics to 0-60 well back then. They were meant to perform at speed. Many 200mph exotics had 5 second 0-60 times.
$190k in today's money.
Gorgeous car.. Loved this and the F355 most! Is t me or do all Ferrari's sound like 4cyl?
Flat plane V8s typically sound like a beefed up 4 cyl
Man this is a good-looking Ferrari. The 355 is nice, but they score with the 348. Won't beat the Testarossa for the wow-factor though.
Just for blocked gauges? That seems comical in todays standars. Wouldn't care about the gauges
something this fast,,,,,,,200 mph on the speedometer,,,,,this car should have airbags.
The build quality was so low rent. You could see the big panel gaps in
some places and the overall cheapness of the interior. Still that is how
exotics were put together before having major brands buy them out.
Actually Ferrari already belong to FIAT back then...
True I meant a big brand like GM, Toyota, VW you know with a lot of resources to pull from.
Audi fixed Lamborghini's quality issues in the 'noughties, but FIAT purchased 50% of Ferrari way back in 1969
Joey Baby I wouldn't say they fixed them in the 90s because Audi was a mess in the 90s. I would say post 05....06 something near there.
Joey Baby no, the 00s I'd day... Audi was a hot mess in the 1990s