"Chances are it will end up as one of the most sought-after production cars we've ever seen" (Referring to the 959). She couldn't have been more right. 30 years on and those 959s are still the stuff that dreams are made of.
I really wish they tested todays cars this same way. Watching the cars zig zag and stopping tests and all the rest are so much more entertaining to watch...
ummmm. There are a ton of videos , of just about every single older and modern sports car ever made. with performance testing done in this way. with acceleration, braking, figure 8, and slalom testing. Between searching RUclips and Google it would be very hard for me to believe you couldn't find them if you know what your doing.
Thanks, I realize there are other shows testers do it this way, I was mostly commenting on this particular show. I grew up with this show and at some point they changed their format and it's not as thorough as it used to be.
Todays cars they dont test like this because todays cars are made out of recycled plastics and Japanese high tech LED interior lights memorize the younger drivers thinking they have a good car.
The 959 was my unicorn as a kid in the 80s. I loved that car. The performance was amazing and the car was beautiful. Hats off to Porsche always building some incredible machines.
Everette Singleton on it, thanks. I think Phil Collins guest star Jalpa is season 1 or early 2... a white one
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Flashback central i remember watching this as a kid every episode and little did i know id be owning this some of the cars from my generation so its making me feel nostalgic how things work out
@@Asiansxsymbol it would need to be be a gr corolla, which has a completly different powertrain, to beat these cars ( not including the 959 which would smoke even a gr corolla). Also the italians still have a higher top speed.
When I see that black Lamborghini Jalpa, I just wanna drive it fast on the highway while the song "No Easy Way Out" from the Rocky IV soundtrack is playing.
Dude Jalpas are crap, never a performance Lambo, they never went up in value compared to other serious exotics and only people who have no clue about true european exotics likes this car, go buy a Ferrari Mondial while youre at it lol!
I got a 1984 Lotus Turbo Esprit, looks exactly like the red one in the video but black interior and with twin carbs... when maintenance is done and done correctly without being cheap, it's an amazing car! Everyone gazes at you, you are the parade!
Keiffer01 You get the same effect in my 1990 MR2 Turbo and maintenance is barely required 30 years later. It’s much quicker than the Lotus too by nearly a second in the 1/4mile
The 959 was WAY ahead of anything up until prob 2007. Especially the tire pressure monitoring. This was also during the time they were developing and implementing the PDK transmission for the 962 race car. They are still making headway with the 918 and soon with the Taycan
The reason for the monitoring was the awd diffs would grenade if your pressure (tire diameter) was off, and owners can't be arsed to check their tire pressure every drive or suffer drivetrain damage.
I always had a soft spot for the Lotus Esprit. I loved how quirky it was - supercar looks, supercar speed, supercar price - and a 4 banger under the hood. Why be normal?
I bought a brand new 85 Mustang GT back then. It ran a 14.8 quarter mile time and had the same engine and transmission as the Autokraft AC MkIV. I actually raced a Ferrari 308 in San Francisco and beat him but he still drove off
281cobra Do you still have it? The '85 GT is one of my favorite Mustangs. If someone around here were selling a black one with a 5-speed I'd jump on it in a second.
I’m an 80’s kid so I bought a ‘perfect’ 1989 Ferrari 328GTS (red/tan). It looks like it just came off of the assembly line with 16,000 original miles. And yes! The 0-60 time is nearly 7 seconds (today’s Honda Civic’s beat that), BUT - it’s the sexiest 7 seconds you’ll ever have in an 80’s legend. The sound is great and it always turns heads. I love it!! And so does my wife!! Dream car!!! “If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up!” - Ferris B. 😂
Isn't he the mustang guy in the comparision with trans am and iroc z? With the ford cap. "My mustang will eat that trans am for launch"... Pretty funny guy
My first gen Viper had no windows and a crappy top too lol. But boy oh boy was it fun to drive - at least until those 335/35/17 rear tires needed replacing every 5,000 miles or so lol. But my heart still aches for an 86 328 GTS. Shame prices are astronomical these days
$63k may have sounded like a lot but adjusted for inflation it would come out to just over $170k. A relative bargin compared to the current mid engined v8 decedent, the F8 (starts at $302k)
Roger Moore drove 2 different Turo Espirit in For Your Eyes Only.A Burgunday one that managed to look cool in the snow with a snow ski rack on it.Gold trim.Those were the days.Now I know the closest thing I'll ever have to an exoctic is a 12 year old 325i if I'm lucky.
It's amazing that at the time, a standard assembly line Corvette would've beaten nearly all of these highly exotic/high-end cars for less than half the price. They ran 0-60 in 5.5 seconds and quarter mile in high 13s. Now-a-days you can pick one up for $5,000 USD
In my humble opinion, this is the last (and best) of the "classic" old school Mid-Engine Ferraris. Beautiful, clean lines, relatively simple mechanicals/repairs, good reliability and a gimmick-free, driver-focused interior. BELLISIMA !! :)
I rode in a black Lamborghini jalpa in 1989....the owner was a man named John fondrisi.....very kind of him to give a young kid in the 5th grade a ride in such cool car.
For 18k that year a Buick GN would've been the king. My buddy bought one new in 86 and he bought a windsheild suction cup mounted performance computer that accurately gave you 0-60,1/4 mile,braking, and more. We took the GN out when it was 11 degrees outside and got a 5.1 0-60 and 13.67 @ 104 mph 1/4 mile. Stock the car put out almost 18lbs boost.
But it will embarrass itself in the slalom. I long ago graduated from single purpose high performance cars--particularly if that single purpose is a boring straight line. Besides, I defy you to drive from anywhere to anywhere in a straight line. I *hate* slowing for corners.
I know it's never fair to compare but comparing the 328's numbers to a 488 is eye opening. I'm sure at the time a 6.8 second 0-60 was fast. Most regular cars were probably doing it in 10-12 seconds, maybe worse. I think it's still a pretty car, not beautiful, but good dimensions
Man, this makes you really appreciate the technology we have today. Today is the true golden age of performance. The 80s sucked in performance. Gotta love the designs though.
c5natie1 The 80's were a dark age for the auto industry.. Only a few stand out cars in a sea of mediocre performing, bland looking, boxes on wheels which look like they were styled with nothing more than a ruler and pencil. .
How times have changed. 0-60 times that would put these cars well behind any hot hatch today. And yet, those were exciting cars! Not something we can say today!
I wasn't aware of the ac mark IV. It's a cobra with mustang drivetrain. I dig it though. it works well enough but I thought it would be faster given the weight of the re~named cobra. I do think it's a trip to see old tech turbo 4 cyl. run as well as anything else... even though I like N/A 8cyl power.
I'm making my way through all these retro reviews. Thank you so much for uploading them. Never realized the AC was so underpowered. That Lotus put out very impressive numbers. I'd take the Ferrari.
Would have never thought the AC would be the cheapest, hard to believe the costs for these were 63k 328 GTB, 55k Turbo Esprit, 58k Jalpa and 48k Autocraft AC Mk IV
4:09............THANK GOD!!!!!! I have always thought it should be illegal to have a radio in a Ferrari!!!!!!!! Want tunes, take the Bimmer!!!! And Craig imitating that Italian accent at 17:13 used to ALWAYS make me laugh my ass off when I taped & watched this episode over & over again back in the day!!!!!! In today's money, the $63,000 Ferrari 328 GTS would be $142,095.26 , the $55,000 Lotus Turbo Esprit would be $124,051.42, the $58,000 Lamborghini Jalpa would be $130,817.86 , & the $48,000 AC Autocraft Mark IV would be $108,263.06.
Who would have thought a Mustang GT was quicker 0-60 than the Ferrari 328? I realize that doesn't make the Mustang a better car, but it raised my eyebrows. Enzo Ferrari himself pretty much had the mentality that powerful engines win races with handling playing second fiddle.
Well.. Just fast forward to 96 and we got the Esprit V8 3.5 Liter Twin Turbo with about 270 Horsepower. That was my favorite looking Esprit and the one I would want.
9:23 "The Lotus seems to respond to your thoughts!" Your thoughts: this thing is gonna break any second
Motor coach??? Used to be right off liberty rd past old court rd..
LOL
yea as the lambo breaks, cars have come a long way. except for the cobra that thing is timeless with the right power plant
LOTUS = Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious.
I LOVE this show. If it was on Netflix id watch every episode. Especially the Retro Reviews. Keep em comin man.
indeed
You can watch it using the ROKU device.
tillallareoneluv Indeed he is
I just requested MW Retro Review on Netflix.
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"Chances are it will end up as one of the most sought-after production cars we've ever seen" (Referring to the 959). She couldn't have been more right. 30 years on and those 959s are still the stuff that dreams are made of.
I know I want one.
1.5 million
you're so smart and clever
I live in the Atlanta, GA area and I have only 👀 one in the last 30 years. A rare exotic for sure.
Raise the bar
I was 11 when this show first aired and I wanted that Lotus more than anything; finally bought an '85 a few years ago and it's glorious.
Toys are fun, no matter your age.
never a day where every part works
EVOCATEUR congrats on purchasing what is possibly the greatest turd ever😋 honestly though I've always loved the Esprit myself.
Hehe the same with Primera egt 1995
Hell yea
I really wish they tested todays cars this same way. Watching the cars zig zag and stopping tests and all the rest are so much more entertaining to watch...
+Steven D Mane FUCK tha industry lolll nothin but commuters
*BOOP* RIDE FOR ME .. duhhhhhhhuhuhuhuhuh
ummmm. There are a ton of videos , of just about every single older and modern sports car ever made. with performance testing done in this way. with acceleration, braking, figure 8, and slalom testing. Between searching RUclips and Google it would be very hard for me to believe you couldn't find them if you know what your doing.
Thanks, I realize there are other shows testers do it this way, I was mostly commenting on this particular show. I grew up with this show and at some point they changed their format and it's not as thorough as it used to be.
Todays cars they dont test like this because todays cars are made out of recycled plastics and Japanese high tech LED interior lights memorize the younger drivers thinking they have a good car.
@ganymedeIV4 ..that's what i thought.
The 959 was my unicorn as a kid in the 80s. I loved that car. The performance was amazing and the car was beautiful. Hats off to Porsche always building some incredible machines.
Oh, how I could have sat and talked about exotic cars with the lovely Ms. Beth, all the happy day long! 🤗🏎️🚗🚙
The interior of that Lotus looks like a padded cell.
speterj something which you are very familiar with
Ferrari testarossa, Porsche 959 . The 80 Countach is the one on all the poster and made it popular.
cocoon of foreskin LOL
Love the Esprit tho, prettiest super car
Gunther Ferguson not my proudest fap
The smell of the leather is overpowering and glorious!
The Jalpa! A fantastic little V8 Lambo. Underrated.
I didn't even know about it till I saw Rocky 4.
CTJacob
It was also in Miami Vice. Lt. Castillo drove it.
Everette Singleton I saw Phil Collins drive one on Miami Vice in the "Phil the Shill" episode...what season fid Castillo have one?
***** Season 4 Episode 15 "Indian Wars", Castillo drove a black Lamborghini Jalpa.at the start of the show
Everette Singleton on it, thanks. I think Phil Collins guest star Jalpa is season 1 or early 2... a white one
Flashback central i remember watching this as a kid every episode and little did i know id be owning this some of the cars from my generation so its making me feel nostalgic how things work out
If I was just listening to the part about the Porsche and didn’t know the year, I’d be like, that sounds high-tech!
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We're the best kept secret.
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***** Keep up the good work gentlemen
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"Shifts are smooth" nearly brakes his arm while using the gated shifter.
You gotta love a gated shifter
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My favorite retro episode so far. I love the Lotus Espirit Turbo.
That car is a monstrosity
the 959 is insane. even by today's standards.
0-60mph was actually 3.8 seconds amazing in the 80s
@Luigi Battista only on top speed
No, even a Corolla today can match its performance.
@@Asiansxsymbol it would need to be be a gr corolla, which has a completly different powertrain, to beat these cars ( not including the 959 which would smoke even a gr corolla). Also the italians still have a higher top speed.
When I see that black Lamborghini Jalpa, I just wanna drive it fast on the highway while the song "No Easy Way Out" from the Rocky IV soundtrack is playing.
That is the only appropriate thing to do with a black Jalpa.
+mrjdgibbs 😎true
Just make sure to not take any shortcuts home.
Dude Jalpas are crap, never a performance Lambo, they never went up in value compared to other serious exotics and only people who have no clue about true european exotics likes this car, go buy a Ferrari Mondial while youre at it lol!
well I think there are about 10 other cars i would drive to that tune. All hot 80s cars of course.
Thank you for putting all of the retro reviews on here. I remember watching these as a very young kid and this show is what made me a gearhead.
The pre '87 Esprit looks just so good.
The '87 looks just like the '86. The Peter Stevens Esprit didn't come out until '88.
Wow. That 959 is still my dream car all these years later. Beautiful.
STP = Scientifically Tested Product
Hilarious. Also, love the 'disco' era music!
I got a 1984 Lotus Turbo Esprit, looks exactly like the red one in the video but black interior and with twin carbs... when maintenance is done and done correctly without being cheap, it's an amazing car! Everyone gazes at you, you are the parade!
Keiffer01
You get the same effect in my 1990 MR2 Turbo and maintenance is barely required 30 years later. It’s much quicker than the Lotus too by nearly a second in the 1/4mile
Pronounced 'Halpa' I believe. Not Italian but Spanish and a breed of fighting bull.
The 959 was my go to choice on Test Drive II.
One of the best MotorWeek of all time
Thanks Beth
You're welcome, John.
i love how the ferrari looks back and front but cant believe how little power the v8 makes
The Ferrari 328 remains me of Rad Racer or (License to Drive) in 1988.
I just love the enthusiasm 17:12
These old episodes NEVER get old! 💕
I love this show, each episode is so timeless
The 959 was WAY ahead of anything up until prob 2007. Especially the tire pressure monitoring. This was also during the time they were developing and implementing the PDK transmission for the 962 race car. They are still making headway with the 918 and soon with the Taycan
The reason for the monitoring was the awd diffs would grenade if your pressure (tire diameter) was off, and owners can't be arsed to check their tire pressure every drive or suffer drivetrain damage.
I always had a soft spot for the Lotus Esprit. I loved how quirky it was - supercar looks, supercar speed, supercar price - and a 4 banger under the hood. Why be normal?
I think the most interesting thing about this video is that each exotic car had a full size spare, which would be unthinkable today.
We had this car three days drove it 70 miles and it didn't break down wow that's a hell of an accomplishment
Man porsche really led the way for future cars.
I love the 959❗
This is the best retro review video yet.
I bought a brand new 85 Mustang GT back then. It ran a 14.8 quarter mile time and had the same engine and transmission as the Autokraft AC MkIV. I actually raced a Ferrari 308 in San Francisco and beat him but he still drove off
281cobra
Do you still have it? The '85 GT is one of my favorite Mustangs. If someone around here were selling a black one with a 5-speed I'd jump on it in a second.
Sold it in 92 with 310k miles on for $1600.
281cobra
I also had a 85 Gt bro, very cool car👍
281cobra 310k miles??? In 7 years??? And someone bought it, likely putting more miles on it???
Love the Maryland birds chirping
This is the very first episode I ever saw in the 80s. The GTS looks great even for today, and the 0-60 is still respectable. $63K?!
It's a unicorn fart of 80's goodness
Hahahahahaha!!
lol nice one fucker.
Great time machine. Amazing how technology has improved. A Ford 5.0 of today is double the horsepower of this era.
The Ferrari 328 is one of the most beautiful cars ever made.
328 / 355 👌🏽
I’m an 80’s kid so I bought a ‘perfect’ 1989 Ferrari 328GTS (red/tan). It looks like it just came off of the assembly line with 16,000 original miles. And yes! The 0-60 time is nearly 7 seconds (today’s Honda Civic’s beat that), BUT - it’s the sexiest 7 seconds you’ll ever have in an 80’s legend. The sound is great and it always turns heads. I love it!! And so does my wife!! Dream car!!! “If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up!” - Ferris B. 😂
17:15 "Ciao, baby, ciao!" was probably the best part of the review so far.
Isn't he the mustang guy in the comparision with trans am and iroc z? With the ford cap. "My mustang will eat that trans am for launch"... Pretty funny guy
I love that esprit, wedge shape at its best
My first gen Viper had no windows and a crappy top too lol. But boy oh boy was it fun to drive - at least until those 335/35/17 rear tires needed replacing every 5,000 miles or so lol. But my heart still aches for an 86 328 GTS. Shame prices are astronomical these days
$63k may have sounded like a lot but adjusted for inflation it would come out to just over $170k. A relative bargin compared to the current mid engined v8 decedent, the F8 (starts at $302k)
Gunmetal/burgundy colour combo my favourite. (328). Classy
Roger Moore drove 2 different Turo Espirit in For Your Eyes Only.A Burgunday one that managed to look cool in the snow with a snow ski rack on it.Gold trim.Those were the days.Now I know the closest thing I'll ever have to an exoctic is a 12 year old 325i if I'm lucky.
It's amazing that at the time, a standard assembly line Corvette would've beaten nearly all of these highly exotic/high-end cars for less than half the price. They ran 0-60 in 5.5 seconds and quarter mile in high 13s. Now-a-days you can pick one up for $5,000 USD
These cars were faster in magazine tests.
You're dreaming you dickhead. A corvette of the same era was a lot slower. Stop talking shit.
Yeah... 14 seconds quarter mile? I think they can do it better.
For example, 80s mustangs with the 5.0 are mid-low 14 secs cars... How the lighter AC runs the same time with the same engine? Great review anyway...
In my humble opinion, this is the last (and best) of the "classic" old school Mid-Engine Ferraris. Beautiful, clean lines, relatively simple mechanicals/repairs, good reliability and a gimmick-free, driver-focused interior. BELLISIMA !! :)
What about the Ferrari 355?? Yes a bit more modern I know, but man its hard not to like those looks.
Man those were the days - those of us growing up in this era had posters of these cars on our walls.
Man, that 959 was SO ahead of its time.
14:57 - forget the steering wheel position, look at the speaker position with both channels placed vertically in the center console, haha
Would love to get my hands on this vintage a/c Mark IV. Wonder what one would fetch today?
I rode in a black Lamborghini jalpa in 1989....the owner was a man named John fondrisi.....very kind of him to give a young kid in the 5th grade a ride in such cool car.
Epic! Thank you for uploading the whole episode. Gotta love Craig lol!
For 18k that year a Buick GN would've been the king. My buddy bought one new in 86 and he bought a windsheild suction cup mounted performance computer that accurately gave you 0-60,1/4 mile,braking, and more. We took the GN out when it was 11 degrees outside and got a 5.1 0-60 and 13.67 @ 104 mph 1/4 mile. Stock the car put out almost 18lbs boost.
But it will embarrass itself in the slalom. I long ago graduated from single purpose high performance cars--particularly if that single purpose is a boring straight line. Besides, I defy you to drive from anywhere to anywhere in a straight line. I *hate* slowing for corners.
King until the first corner... then a lowly sharecropper.
Thats the distinction between a muscle car and a sports car.
The AC convinced me I need to build a cobra kit.
toss in a lt1 + 6 speed sign my organ doner card and keep my life insurance up to date.
Nah. Coyote
I know it's never fair to compare but comparing the 328's numbers to a 488 is eye opening. I'm sure at the time a 6.8 second 0-60 was fast. Most regular cars were probably doing it in 10-12 seconds, maybe worse. I think it's still a pretty car, not beautiful, but good dimensions
Most Magazines got sub 6 second 0-60 in Jalpa and 328.
Did yall get the birds a microphone too?? I love seeing these retro reviews.
Man, this makes you really appreciate the technology we have today. Today is the true golden age of performance. The 80s sucked in performance. Gotta love the designs though.
c5natie1 The 80's were a dark age for the auto industry.. Only a few stand out cars in a sea of mediocre performing, bland looking, boxes on wheels which look like they were styled with nothing more than a ruler and pencil. .
+bliglum Some great design came from the 80s.
Tom Hertz Hahaha!!!! That's a good one!
bliglum Countach? Ferrari F40. Most of the Porsches from the 80s are triple the 90 Porsche prices.
There are exceptions to every rule.. But the Countach is a child of the 70's ; )
The lotus in this clip sounds like a really amazing car to drive.
How times have changed. 0-60 times that would put these cars well behind any hot hatch today. And yet, those were exciting cars! Not something we can say today!
"....Group B racing, that's a category for GLORIOUS INSANITY...."
Fix't that for ya.
I want the 288 GTO instead of the 959. Or the Lancia 037.
20:18 Porsche will never make 450HP road car...
Guess who was wrong on that front
Love these videos. Where do I get one of the blue Motorweek jackets?!
Beth sure called it on that 959
The porsche 959 was way ahead of its time !!!
I love these videos
I wasn't aware of the ac mark IV. It's a cobra with mustang drivetrain. I dig it though. it works well enough but I thought it would be faster given the weight of the re~named cobra. I do think it's a trip to see old tech turbo 4 cyl. run as well as anything else... even though I like N/A 8cyl power.
Rocky called and he wants his Lamborghini back for another montage.
I'm making my way through all these retro reviews. Thank you so much for uploading them. Never realized the AC was so underpowered. That Lotus put out very impressive numbers. I'd take the Ferrari.
??? The AC ran right in with the rest of these 'exotic' 1986 cars... but the original AC was the usual British 4 cylinder 50 - 100 HP engines...
So... Am I the only one who noticed that they made the 328 go three cones wide in the slalom and made the others go only 1 cone wide?
The 1986 944 turbo was faster to 60 than that Ferrari by a whole second.
The Ferrari did 0-60 in 5.6-5.7 in most tests.
Yeah, I'm with U. This show it's good to watch 👌😁.
Would have never thought the AC would be the cheapest, hard to believe the costs for these were 63k 328 GTB, 55k Turbo Esprit, 58k Jalpa and 48k Autocraft AC Mk IV
Awesome video!! Pretty cool cars!! Please make more videos!! Motor week is my favorite!!
Geeez that Lotus interior holy cow!
1976 Lotus: Lucas ignition
1986 Lotus : Delco ignition
I think I'll take the '86, thanks.
Yeah, k-jettronic wasn't great, but compared to Carbs on Turbos?! Engines must have lasted 4x longer!
The 959 makes the other cars look like Conestoga wagons. I mean, they're sporty Conestoga wagons but nevertheless...
Not necessarily retro but do you have any early 2000s Mitsubishi Eclipse reviews? Loved this one by the way!
RefreshYourMind
Lol, why?
Showing the 959 has a little sidenote made the other four cars look pedestrian at best.
I miss these good old days, from the speed channel
Man, I'd love to get my hands on a high quality copy of that theme tune.
4:09............THANK GOD!!!!!! I have always thought it should be illegal to have a radio in a Ferrari!!!!!!!! Want tunes, take the Bimmer!!!! And Craig imitating that Italian accent at 17:13 used to ALWAYS make me laugh my ass off when I taped & watched this episode over & over again back in the day!!!!!! In today's money, the $63,000 Ferrari 328 GTS would be $142,095.26 , the $55,000 Lotus Turbo Esprit would be $124,051.42, the $58,000 Lamborghini Jalpa would be $130,817.86 , & the $48,000 AC Autocraft Mark IV would be $108,263.06.
My GT4 and RS5 make these cars look very slow. Thanks John.
Didn't Bill Gates buy one of the Porsche ....
Who would have thought a Mustang GT was quicker 0-60 than the Ferrari 328? I realize that doesn't make the Mustang a better car, but it raised my eyebrows. Enzo Ferrari himself pretty much had the mentality that powerful engines win races with handling playing second fiddle.
that ac cobra is one of the most beautiful cars ever.
One's of my all time favs cars, the 959! (17:50)
Rocky needs plenty of cargo space and perfect fit and finish. Wide seats are perfect if you have Tommy Morrison as a passenger.
That 328 is still a beautiful car. I've always preferred the GTB over the GTS.
The ENGINE IS the radio !
Wonder what would have happened if GM put a turbo V-8 in a Esprit? Or a Grand National V-6 for that matter.
Well.. Just fast forward to 96 and we got the Esprit V8 3.5 Liter Twin Turbo with about 270 Horsepower. That was my favorite looking Esprit and the one I would want.
😂 damn lol. The lotus interior is horrifying. Lol.
Wow. What dogs the exotic market was in the 80s. Pick up a 2004 Nissan 350z for $5k and basically dominate these in performance
Bismillah...Great program from the good old days....!!!!